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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: We are very pleased now to be joined by our

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Speaker 2: friend Sean Davis. He is the CEO of The Federalist,

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Speaker 2: which is one of my favorite sites of Federalist dot com.

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Speaker 2: Go check it out yourself. Sean pulls no punches, knows

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Speaker 2: lots of stuff. A very astute and feisty fellow, mister

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Speaker 2: Sean Davis. Good to have you on, Good to be on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: So as as we see here discussing this, you no

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Speaker 2: doubt saw that Donald Trump is now on the hook

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Speaker 2: for I think it's almost five million dollars because of

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Speaker 2: this Egene Carol suit civil suit in New York. He

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Speaker 2: was not found liable for rape, but he was for

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Speaker 2: defamation and a sexual assault, but not rising the level

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Speaker 2: of rape. Is my understanding of how this judgment came down.

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Speaker 2: I want your reaction to that. And then also, are

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Speaker 2: they gonna are they just going to basically tie this

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Speaker 2: guy up with lawsuits and criminal charges and all kinds

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Speaker 2: of stuff in a way that makes a mockery of

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Speaker 2: the entire judicial system. Like, what do you think the

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Speaker 2: plan is here for the law fair against Trump going

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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Oh, however bad you think it is, I promise you

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Speaker 1: it's worse because it's not constrained to Trump. Now. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they're never going to leave him alone ever again, because

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Speaker 1: they're using him as an example to all other Republicans

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Speaker 1: that if you go off the reservation, if you don't

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Speaker 1: stay where you need to be, we will destroy you.

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Speaker 1: We'll come at you with grand jury's in Georgia and

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Speaker 1: New York. We'll have a special counsel at the Federal

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Speaker 1: DJ coming after you. You will never have a RESTful

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Speaker 1: night's sleep again. You will always wonder, You'll always be

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Speaker 1: looking over your back, wondering if we're coming, how we're

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Speaker 1: going to get you next. But here's the thing. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't stop at Donald Trump. It's not like they're going

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Speaker 1: to get rid of Donald Trump. And some have be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: back to an even playing field, No more shenanigans were good.

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Speaker 1: Just look at what they've done with J six. They

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Speaker 1: are criminalizing opposition itself to the regime. They're throwing in prison.

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Speaker 1: I think one guy for fourteen or fifteen years. He

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Speaker 1: never even entered the Capitol, he never even went into

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Speaker 1: the building on j six. They're trying to throw them,

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Speaker 1: put them away for fifteen years. So people need to

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Speaker 1: understand it doesn't matter if you hate Trump. This doesn't

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Speaker 1: stop with him. The left is insatiable. They want total control.

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Speaker 1: It's why they're coming after people's kids. It's why they're

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Speaker 1: coming after you on social media. It's why they're censoring you.

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Speaker 1: It's why they're throwing people in prison for a protest

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Speaker 1: while letting their own people set fire to cities across

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Speaker 1: the nation. They are criminalizing any opposition to their regime,

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Speaker 1: and people need to understand it's not about Trump, It's

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Speaker 1: about opposition to them. And if they can get Trump,

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Speaker 1: they can get anyone, including you.

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Speaker 2: Do think that they're going to try to not only

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Speaker 2: press additional criminal charges. I have to keep reminding it

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Speaker 2: almost sounds so crazy when you say it, right, they're

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Speaker 2: already trying to. They've launched what is it, thirty felonies

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Speaker 2: most absurd. Now everyone keeps talking about how sort of is.

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Speaker 2: I worry that a New York jury. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: just saw one New York jury find against Trump in

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Speaker 2: a civil trial for which there was really no evidence.

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Speaker 2: It was just someone said something and the jury believed

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Speaker 2: this individual, right, I worry what the jury will do

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Speaker 2: in the you know, Trump hush money payoff case. But

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Speaker 2: there's also Atlanta where there's possible charges coming from that

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Speaker 2: something about the election, maybe even racketeering or conspiracy to

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Speaker 2: commit election fraud. There's some crazy stuff that's being talked about.

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Speaker 2: And then there's a special council looking at January sixth

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Speaker 2: and everything else. I bring all that up, Sean, because

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Speaker 2: if they're willing to go to the mat on this

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Speaker 2: save it, right, why wouldn't they try to throw Trump

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm sure they're going to I mean, they

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Speaker 1: this guy and anyone who backed him, and anyone who

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Speaker 1: look at New York, you look at DC, you look

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Speaker 1: at Atlanta. There's a reason they're picking these venues, and

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Speaker 1: it's because the rule of law in these areas, in

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Speaker 1: somehow you end up being charged, you're walking away scott free.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the situation with Michael Sussman.

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Speaker 1: This was the DNC and Clinton lawyer who was rung

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Speaker 1: up by Durham's investigation for peddling false statements to the

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Speaker 1: a DC jury, which is where the crime had to

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Speaker 1: with one of the jurors saying, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: why we're here. This is a waste of time. If

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Speaker 1: you have the right politics, if you're wearing a blue jersey,

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Speaker 1: you're safe in a blue city. Nothing will happen to you.

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Speaker 1: You could throw molotov cocktails at cops, you can burn

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Speaker 1: down buildings, you can threaten people on a subway. Nothing

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Speaker 2: You know, Sean, I I want to ask you, because

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Speaker 2: people ask me this question all the time, Well, what

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Speaker 2: do we do given that we know what's coming? How

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Speaker 2: do we act? How do we counteract this, this plot,

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Speaker 2: this strategy that the Left is as unfolding right now

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Speaker 2: I think in front of us with twenty twenty four ahead.

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Speaker 2: you think we do about what's coming? How do we

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Speaker 2: mobilize properly? Just on the issue of using the law

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Speaker 2: and the DOJ perhaps as a weapon in an election

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's going to be difficult to pull up,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually simple, and we have to go back

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Speaker 1: You and I both grew up in the shadow of

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Speaker 1: So everyone new, yeah, you know, if we wanted to,

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Speaker 1: They understand power and they understand warfare by other means,

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Speaker 1: understand that the world has changed. It's not two thousand

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Speaker 2: Up on the Federalists. There's a piece by I believe

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Speaker 2: it's John Davidson the culture war isn't the most important

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Speaker 2: issue of twenty twenty four, it's the only issue, and

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Speaker 2: he goes in to make the case, what do you

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Speaker 2: think about the role of what we generally termed culture

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Speaker 1: Well? I agree with John. I think the culture war

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago. That was code for abortion or religion.

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Speaker 1: But it's not anymore because the left has gained so

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Speaker 1: the culture war. It's them trying to engineer how you live.

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Speaker 1: They're wanting to chop off kids Genitalia so that these

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Speaker 2: What is it with Ukraine with some Republicans where I understand,

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty three, it's not nineteen eighty five. The

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Speaker 2: It seems like everyone. I shouldn't say everyone. Most people

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's an easy one. It's Europe needs

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Speaker 2: insurance quote and see how much you could save. Policygenius

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Speaker 2: dot com Again, that's policy genius dot com. All right, Sean,

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Speaker 2: I you know, I'm hoping not to be a pessivist here.

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Speaker 2: I'll trying to find the upside of things. But right now,

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Speaker 2: for the country, I do think that when you look

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Speaker 2: at policy and the areas where there's dispute over where

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Speaker 2: we should go at how we should go forward as

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Speaker 2: a country, there's not a lot that's looking good at

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Speaker 2: this moment in time.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Economy is not looking good. We got this war, new

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Speaker 2: crime we're talking about, inflation is high. Crime in cities

443
00:23:00,937 --> 00:23:03,257
Speaker 2: is still way beyond what it should be based on

444
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Speaker 2: the numbers just a few years ago. But the border

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00:23:06,057 --> 00:23:09,977
Speaker 2: may be the single biggest catastrophe. By the numbers and

446
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Speaker 2: the reality one hundred thousand plus people dying a fentyl overdoses.

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Speaker 2: People forget, Sean, there were something I think in the

448
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Speaker 2: early two thousands it was like ten thousand people dying

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Speaker 2: a year from all opioid overdoses. Now it's over, and

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Speaker 2: I know there's some of it as other drugs, but

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Speaker 2: the fentanyl is seventy eighty percent and it's over one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand, So we've seen an eight x increase in

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Speaker 2: this plus the millions of illegals coming in. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Title forty two ends this week. What happens now, Well.

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Speaker 1: We go from a border that might still theoretically exist

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Speaker 1: to having one that's been completely dissolved. And this is

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Speaker 1: being done intentionally. The Left has decided that borders are racist,

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Speaker 1: that America is an idea and an economic zone, not

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Speaker 1: an actual defined area with set rules of law, and

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Speaker 1: they've just set about dissolving the border, dissolving the rule

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Speaker 1: of law, and importing as many people as they think

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Speaker 1: will one day be part of their party as they can.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's as simple as that. And I get

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Speaker 1: not wanting to be pessimistic, but I feel like at

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Speaker 1: this point in the American experiment, we kind of have

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Speaker 1: to look at the body politic like a doctor would

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Speaker 1: look at a patient who's sick. You need your doctor

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Speaker 1: to examine you, take your blood, looks at your vitals,

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Speaker 1: and tell you the truth about what you're facing, whether

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Speaker 1: it might be cancer or liver disease, or heart disease

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Speaker 1: or something like that. And I feel like that's where

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Speaker 1: we are right now. We need to have a very

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Speaker 1: honest discussion and diagnosis of the body that is America

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Speaker 1: right now, because if we can't even agree on what

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Speaker 1: the problems are, we're never going to fix them. And

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Speaker 1: so we need to be really honest and very frank

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Speaker 1: about what's happening. We are being besieged by the left.

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Speaker 1: It's waging its own mouse style cultural revolution on every

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Speaker 1: single front. They control the big companies, they control big tech,

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Speaker 1: they control academia, they control the military, they control the

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Speaker 1: intel services, they control the government, they control Hollywood. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's not just the border. They are it seems

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Speaker 1: implementing the program that the Soviets tried and failed to

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Speaker 1: do during the Cold War to subvert all of our

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Speaker 1: institutions against us. And the right needs to wake up

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Speaker 1: and understand you either have to take these institutions back

487
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Speaker 1: or you have to build up your own from scratch,

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Speaker 1: because the way they are now, they are going to

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Speaker 1: crush you. That's why cancel culture, why the obsession with

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Speaker 1: political correctness is so important, because the cultural power the

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Speaker 1: left has is the power to destroy you.

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Speaker 2: Right now, do you think that what Elon's doing over

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Speaker 2: at Twitter? People? Look, I've been among them. I felt

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Speaker 2: like at different times. Hold on a second, you know,

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Speaker 2: the shadow banning is still very much, whether it's the

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Speaker 2: algorithm or you know, there's some problem here with different accounts.

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Speaker 2: I think your account has had problems. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: your account. I mean I follow you and follow you

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Speaker 2: for years. But do you think there's a broader plan

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Speaker 2: here to have a beachhead in the digital tyranny that

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Speaker 2: the left has been able to get away with really

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Speaker 2: here for years? I mean, how do you see that?

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Speaker 2: I can't. I'm trying to find some trying to find

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Speaker 2: some some positive moments here. I mean, could he could

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Speaker 2: Elon turn Twitter into something that restores meaningful free speech online?

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Speaker 1: I think he could. I think he genuinely wants to.

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Speaker 1: What I have been told by people inside is that

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Speaker 1: the situation there, both staff wise and with the programming,

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Speaker 1: and how the whole algorithm and services coded are so

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Speaker 1: much worse than than we suspected. And and the analogy

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Speaker 1: that I've been given is is you know, they they're

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Speaker 1: going to need to rebuild that entire algorithm, But it's

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Speaker 1: akin to remodeling your entire house while you're hosting a

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Speaker 1: big party. You can't just start from scratch, build it

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Speaker 1: from scratch and be like today it's all done. You

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Speaker 1: have to do it while still keeping it functioning. And

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Speaker 1: people who I know are on our side very much

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Speaker 1: have said, it's just a really difficult problem. He's committed

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Speaker 1: to it, he's just got to follow through it now.

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Speaker 1: So I, like you, I've been a critic. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was banned for reporting on the Nashville shooting accurately.

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Speaker 1: It took an act of our favorable oligarch over there

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Speaker 1: to get me unbanned. But you know, that's the situation

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Speaker 1: we're in now. We don't have free speech the likes

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Speaker 1: of which you and I grew up with. We have

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Speaker 1: various oligarchs controlling different entities, and right now we have

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Speaker 1: one oligarch who seems to be somewhat on our side.

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Speaker 1: So it's not ideal. I'll take it because it's better

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Speaker 1: than having all of them a rayed against us.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know about this. You were kicked off

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Speaker 2: of Twitter for reporting on the Nashville shooting.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I was banned for I want to say,

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Speaker 1: the good part of a week, for sharing a news

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Speaker 1: story about the trans Day of Vengeance that was planned

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Speaker 1: just days after this went and decided to murder three

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Speaker 1: nine year olds and three Christian staff at the Covenant School.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think they haven't released as we speak now,

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Speaker 2: at least it's been over a month the thing that's

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Speaker 2: going on. Forty five days close to that, haven't released

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Speaker 2: this manifesto.

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Speaker 1: We know exactly why I've been calling it the tranifesto,

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Speaker 1: because that's what it is. You have to understand that

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Speaker 1: the left feels like they have to control the narrative

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Speaker 1: at all costs. If they can control the narrative, they

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Speaker 1: can control results. And the narrative they want on shootings

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Speaker 1: is that guns are bad. Let's ban all the guns

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Speaker 1: because people we don't like are the ones who own

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Speaker 1: the guns. So you know that's generally what they fall

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Speaker 1: back on. But here you have a completely deranged, evil,

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Speaker 1: alleged transperson deliberately planning to go kill and target Christian

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Speaker 1: children because of their Christian faith. We know it's in

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Speaker 1: that manifesto. They know what's in it, and we know

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Speaker 1: exactly why they're not releasing it, and it just fascinates me. It's,

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Speaker 1: like you said, been forty five days since that came out,

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Speaker 1: but they somehow knew within an hour, they found this

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Speaker 1: new Hispanic white supremacist who is posting on Russian language

557
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Speaker 1: forums talking about lives of TikTok and Tim Poole, and boy,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just shows how militarized and radicalized these

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Speaker 1: right wingers are. They find all that crap in a

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Speaker 1: matter of hours, but they can't release this manifesto, which

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Speaker 1: we all know says what it says, which is that

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Speaker 1: this transgender ideology is being weaponized and targeted towards Christians

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Speaker 1: who have just had enough of this nonsensical ideology that

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Speaker 1: you can change your gender because you feel like you

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Speaker 1: were born in the wrong body.

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Speaker 2: Are they finally losing? You think the left on that

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Speaker 2: issue of transgenderism has the moment of pushback actually come

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Speaker 2: where they're no longer advancing and they're they're in a

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Speaker 2: meaningful retreat.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think so. It's why you've seen so many

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Speaker 1: states pass these laws making it a crime to perform

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Speaker 1: these mutilations on children. I personally think they need to

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Speaker 1: ban them for everyone. You wouldn't allow elective amputations or

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Speaker 1: elective organ eviscerrations because it's just an awful off thing

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Speaker 1: to expect from a doctor in a healthcare system. There's

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Speaker 1: no reason we should be allowing it for genital stuff

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Speaker 1: minor or not. But I do think this is one

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Speaker 1: area where you know, you can con people on little

579
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Speaker 1: things for a while, but once you start telling him

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Speaker 1: that this hideous fat man with a beard and a

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Speaker 1: gut is actually a really beautiful, stunning, brave woman. And actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, we should be able to tell your kid

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Speaker 1: to go chop their genitals off secretly at school without

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Speaker 1: you knowing. It appears that that was a bridge too

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Speaker 1: far for the left.

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Speaker 2: If there's one issue Sean, I was gonna say, what

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Speaker 2: makes you feel positive? You know what, Let's just skip that.

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Speaker 2: Sean's a fighter, folks. Sean is feisty online, he is

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Speaker 2: he is a fighter in person, a pugilist. I think

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Speaker 2: we could say you're a pugilist in the ideological realm.

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Speaker 2: So give me this. Then, what's something that you think

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Speaker 2: people need to on our side focus more on and

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Speaker 2: fight harder on? Right now?

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing are side needs to do

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Speaker 1: is just say things that are true. There is the

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Speaker 1: Great Souls in It's an essay Living Not by Lies

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Speaker 1: that Rod Dryer popularized popularized in his book and in

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00:31:20,937 --> 00:31:23,017
Speaker 1: it souls and it and says, but the lie has

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Speaker 1: to attach itself to someone to propagate. It's a parasite.

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Speaker 1: It can't live on its own. And you would be

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Speaker 1: shocked how subversive, how powerful it is for people to

602
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Speaker 1: just stand up and say I'm not going to be

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Speaker 1: a party to this. Conservatives and Republicans tend to be

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Speaker 1: generally quiet people who mind their own business. They just

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00:31:40,217 --> 00:31:42,897
Speaker 1: want to be left alone. They're not the ones going

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Speaker 1: and protesting and having these these idiotic riots taking time

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00:31:46,777 --> 00:31:49,737
Speaker 1: off from work to go pickt something. But they do

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Speaker 1: need to start realizing you might not care about the

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Speaker 1: culture war, but the culture war cares about conquering you,

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Speaker 1: and you have to stand up. Whether it's at your church,

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Speaker 1: a school board meeting, at a store advertising nonsense, whether

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00:32:02,857 --> 00:32:05,377
Speaker 1: it's on the internet, whether it's at a baseball game.

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Speaker 1: People need to stop tolerating lies. The best thing they

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00:32:09,617 --> 00:32:12,137
Speaker 1: can do for our country right now is to stop

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Speaker 1: tolerating lies, because lies cannot exist without people allowing them.

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Speaker 2: To Sean Davis, everybody follow him on Twitter at Sean

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Speaker 2: Davis and also go to the Federalist dot com anything Else,

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Speaker 2: Sean anything else, going to tell people who go check

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Speaker 2: out for what you're doing, well.

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Speaker 1: Definitely check out the Federalist this afternoon. We've got a

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Speaker 1: big breaking story about the Hunter Biden laptop letter coming

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Speaker 1: out in about fifteen to twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Here there we go, all right, Sean Davis, everybody, Sean,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much, man, great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks sir,