1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: your bet and it's me Joey B Joe P's a 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: P and it's week five in the NFL. It's time 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: to look ahead at some of the games that we 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: have going forward. I think there's a lot of early value. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: I am excited for it. And to help me break 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: it all down, of course, Sam Hoppin and Pat fitz Morris, 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: the boys from betting pros and Fantasy pros, We're gonna 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: take you through some of the early lines and the 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: values and see what might be worth wagering on early on. 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Definitely last week there were some fun thing. Sam Hoppin, 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: I hope you had a good week, certainly a better 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: week than maybe the Chicago Bears have. Maybe we could 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: start there, right. 15 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean, but the bar is pretty low for having 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: a better week than the Chicago Bears. I mean it was. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: My wife asked me after the game, She's like, are 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: you surprised that the Bears lost? And I'm like, well, 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm not based on what I thought before the game, 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: but I am based on how the game was going 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: three quarters in. So yeah, not looking too great in Chicago. 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you what though, speaking of how that 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: game was going, Pat fitz Morris, this is my favorite 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: moment of Sunday. A little in game live betting I 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: was doing there. I'm I'm watching some of these games 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: because some of these games were a little tight there, 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, we look for an opportunity. 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: We were a team that falls behind, and Denver Broncos 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: fell behind, and all of a sudden their money line 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: became plus five twenty on FanDuel and Joey P bet it, 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: and then Joey P got real nervous because I thought 32 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: that the Bears were got to kick a field goal. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: They chose not to even after the time out. Pat, 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: my favorite bet of the Sunday things feel good? Did 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: you cut your sleeves off on Sunday at any given 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: time too, like Sean Payton just out of curiosity. 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: I did not, Joe, But yeah, I was a little 38 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: surprised by that moment in the Bears Broncos game too, 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 3: where the Bears lined up to go for it. Everyone 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: thought they were going to kick the field goal at 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: the Broncos to try to jump off sides didn't work. 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: Come out of the timeout and still decide to go 43 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: for it and come up woefully shorts, leading to yet 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: another line. So yeah, we'll talk about the bearsmore in 45 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: a minute here. But oh yeah, they don't inspire confidence, 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: at least not here among you know, my neighbors, my 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: Bears fans. 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, term of confidence, Like I'm confident. I was very 49 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: confident that even when they were up, they were going 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: to lose. So I guess it's a different kind of 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: confidence at. 52 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: The end of the day. 53 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: And that's what's so beautiful about the wagering market. There's 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: early value, there's value during the week, there's value while 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: the games are going on, so it never stops. So 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: if you want to get in on it, make sure 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: you download the Betting Pros apps, sink all your sports books. 58 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Oh and don't forget, we're also getting away free stuff here. 59 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: We're giving away an Odell Beckham signed Baltimore Ravens Jersey 60 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: thanks to us here a Betting Pros. All you have 61 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: to do is subscribe to our Betting Pros YouTube channel 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: and of course drop a comment below let us know 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: what your favorite early picks are. We love hearing from 64 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: you in the YouTube comments and click the little BELTI 65 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: that goes ding for notification, so you know when all 66 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the content drops here and when you're notified if you 67 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: are the big winner of the Objay jersey. Let's start 68 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: here with, of course, Thursday night football, and guess what 69 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: it's the Chicago Bears zero to four heading to Washington. 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: Washington's two and two. The forty five and a half 71 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: is the number you're getting here on bet MGM. Forty 72 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: four and a half at sugar House. Six is the 73 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: number across the board. If you like Chicago for the 74 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: upset of plus two twenty, there you have it over 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: on FanDuel. But pat short week for a team that 76 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: has trouble preparing no matter how much time you give him. 77 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: Washington looked very solid, really competitive against the Eagles last week. 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: So or are we liken this six for the Washington 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: early on. 80 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: A little bit? 81 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 3: Yes, Joe, I mean, it would just be so reckless 82 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: to bet the Bears at this point, and the short 83 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: week might be the only thing preventing Matt eber Flus 84 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: and his staff from being summarily dismissed this week. Like 85 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: things have gone so sideways for the Bears. One of 86 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: the interesting things to come out of Bears headquarters this 87 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: past week was from the Chase Claypole sagin We know 88 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: he was deactivated on Sunday, No surprise there. He has 89 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: not endeared himself to the organization this year with his effort. 90 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: But Bears head coach Matt Eberflus told the media it 91 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: was Claypool's choice not to come to the stadium after 92 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: he was informed he was going to be deactivated. A 93 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: team spokesman later clarified that it was not in fact 94 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Claypool's choice. He was told not to come. So obviously 95 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: morale is not going to be high for an h 96 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: and to four team to begin with, and it doesn't 97 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: help that eber Flus is making odd choices like that 98 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: decision to go forward on fourth and one yesterday and 99 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: easy field goal range, or the decision to throw one 100 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: of his own players underneath the bus by saying that 101 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: he chose not to come to the stadium when he 102 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: was told not to. 103 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: So, I eber Flus, pat, You're thinking when he was there, 104 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't present, So what's the difference, right? It's true, 105 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: but there was very zen, wasn't it. 106 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: If you're one of the players about it, Joe, I 107 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: mean like, I got to think they got some major. 108 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm pissed at the guy. I'm like, true, this guy Sam. 109 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: You know Pat mentioned reckless. When I think reckless, I 110 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: think Sam Hoppin. Sam, what do you think about this one? 111 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Any early value on this short week here, where you know, 112 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: you take a little bit out of some confidence boost 113 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: from the commanders and their performance in Philly. 114 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I was very encouraged by how 115 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: Washington performed against Philadelphia. I think that was more so 116 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: a game in which Washington played up to the competition 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: than Philadelphia playing down to the competition. We saw the 118 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: good Sam Howell on Sunday. Now he gets to face 119 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: a Bears defense that ranks thirty first in pass ePaper play, 120 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: twenty seventh in success rate, and twenty fifth in explosive 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: pass rate. So I don't know if I like any 122 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: side here, because again, backing Sam Howell still is a 123 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: little nerve racking to me. But I'd certainly be looking 124 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: at Washington's team total. I mean, the Bears defense is 125 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: terrible and they're just letting anyone score points on them. 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: No, that's a good point. That's a good point of 127 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: view on this game. Jacksonville stays in London for another week. 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: There again, they're home away from home. The Buffalo Bills 129 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: are travel out there. Forty eight and a half is 130 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: the number you can get on the under, forty seven 131 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: and a half on Sugarouse, forty eight and a half 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: on points Bet. Right now, you're seeing the spread vary 133 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: somewhere between four and a half on the Buffalo side 134 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: here on DK and plus five and a half over 135 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: on Caesars if you like the Jacksonville side, plus one 136 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: ninety five on bet three sixty five. Again, I'm seeing 137 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: all these lines at bettingpros dot com or you just 138 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: download the app. This is how you can see the 139 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: best lines. Is there a letdown potentially, Sam in this one, 140 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: with Buffalo having a big important game against Miami, coming 141 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: off two wins in a row, and then getting on 142 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: a plane and going to London. 143 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think the Bills are an 144 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: absolute wagon right now. There's no team that I was 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: more impressed with on Sunday than the Buffalo Bills. I 146 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: was on the the Dolphins money line in our chat 147 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: earlier before the game and that did not pan out well. 148 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: But they've put up thirty five plus points in three 149 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: straight games. They are humming on all cylinders. They lost 150 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: to Davis White, which sucks, but it sounds like von 151 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: Miller is expected to start practicing with the Bills again 152 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: on Monday. I don't think if Jacksonville gets out to 153 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: a lead that they'll be able to hold that lead. 154 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: They're twenty eighth in pressure rate on defense, they are 155 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: struggling to run the ball a ton outside of Trevor 156 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Lawrence scrambles, and so I think this is just a 157 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: tremendous spot for the Bills again, heading to Jacksonville's home 158 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: away from home. 159 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Pat, any value here in your opinion, or any advantage 160 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: with Jacksonville already being out there and already kind of 161 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: adjusted to life out there in terms of time difference 162 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: and all the other stuff, or is that just overrated? 163 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: I actually think so, Joe. 164 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: I think this is a good spot for the Jaguars. 165 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got the Bills coming off this emotional 166 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: win against their chief rival in the AFC East, and 167 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: now the Bills have to travel to London after this 168 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: big game. 169 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: The Jaguars have already been there. 170 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: They the Week four game in London, so they get 171 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: to just kick back and enjoy Bangers in mash all 172 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: week while they're waiting for the Bills to show up 173 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: in London. They've got the whole play overseas thing down 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: to a science by now too, since they are the 175 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: regulars in London. 176 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: So what do we do here? 177 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 3: I mean, we know the Bills are the superior team, 178 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: but there is reason to believe they might not throw 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: their best punch coming off this big win and traveling overseas. 180 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: I don't think this line is going to go down. 181 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are going to be 182 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: confident in the Bills after what we saw against the Dolphins, 183 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: So I think this line is going up. 184 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: I want to wait. 185 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: I want to try to get a little bit more 186 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: value here and then bet the Jaguars. 187 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense to me, So let's wait on 188 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: this one. Maybe no early value. What about Tennessee Indianapolis again? 189 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Right now, we are plus one and a half on 190 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: the Tennessee side of this game. You get plus one 191 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: though on Indianapolis at DK, so we're basically, you know, 192 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: between fan duel and DK there you're at a pick 193 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: him at this point. Indianapolis did come back. They were 194 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: very competitive in the second half of that game after 195 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of a sluggish start against the Rams, and Tennessee 196 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: put a hurtin on the Cincinnati Bengals. They got to 197 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback something again. They're gonna have a little bit 198 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: more mobile quarterback this week to face Hine Richards is 199 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: going to get out of the pocket a little bit 200 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: better than Joe Burrow. Forty one and a half is 201 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: the number for this one on the total over a 202 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: bet MGM forty two and a half at points bet fits. 203 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, this is one of those classic kind of 204 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: pickup games. We did get the Tennessee Titans. You know 205 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: that we were hoping for and looking for right a 206 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But we thought, oh yeah, this 207 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: is when the Tennessee Titans bring it down to their level. 208 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Play in the mud, hit a hard place, smashmouth football. 209 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: We were just a week too late. Does it continue 210 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: this week? Yeah? 211 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: I don't like betting against Mike Frable teams because of 212 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 3: this reason. I think they can outperform their talent. Should 213 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: we like the over here? I mean we are looking 214 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: at two of the worst hals defenses. Yeah, I mean, 215 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: I know neither of these passing offenses are real inspiring, 216 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: but these are two really bad pass defenses. And we 217 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: might see Jonathan Taylor possibly return to the Colts this week. 218 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: We don't know if that's going to happen yet, but boy, 219 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: what an interesting matchup that is going to be if 220 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: Taylor comes back. You've got Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor 221 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: going up against maybe the best run defense in the NFL. 222 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: I'd really like to see that. I think there might 223 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: be a little bit of value in the over. I mean, 224 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: the Titans shut down Joe Burrow and the Bengals. I know, 225 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: like this is not the same Bengals offense, so let's 226 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: not read too much into that. I just this is 227 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: a low total and two pretty bad pass defenses. So 228 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts and Titans were 229 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: able to do some business through the air in this 230 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: one and get this over the total. 231 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Sam bad pass defense is also an explosive playmaker. Anthony 232 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Richardson when he starts humming when he's on and he 233 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: saw in the second half like he started to get 234 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: that juice back right all of a sudden, I feel like, 235 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: no total safe when it's in the Colts game, and 236 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: I like the over last week, and when we talked 237 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: about the Rams game, right, I was very much all. 238 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Richardson's back, anything could happen. That 239 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: guy is so explosive. Do you think forty one and 240 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: a half is enough where you like the over two? 241 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: I think so. It's it's an intriguing because of how 242 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: fast the Colts are playing. I mean they are second 243 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: in neutral script seconds per play, first in neutral script 244 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: no huddle rate. They are just moving at lightning speeds 245 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: right now. They were doing it with Gardner Minshew as 246 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: well when he started the other week. Again, I mentioned 247 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: that the Bills were the most impressive team on Sunday, 248 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: Tennessee was the second most impressive to me. They played incredible. Again. 249 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: We know that this Bengals offense is not what it 250 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: was built up to be in the preseason, but you 251 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: saw that vintage Derrick Henry touchdown run where he just 252 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: pushed defenders to the side. You know, they had that 253 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: very bad game against Cleveland a couple of weeks ago, 254 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: but Cleveland's defense has also been exceptional this year. So 255 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: I think the Titans could potentially be in obviously in 256 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: this race for the AFC South and think that they'll 257 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: take call him the win against India this Sunday. 258 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: One of the best stores in the NFL has to 259 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: be the Houston Texans. They are two and two heading 260 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, coming off a loss, coming off a long 261 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: plane ride back home. Right now, still Atlanta is two 262 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites in this one. Forty two 263 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: is the number if you like the under on DK. 264 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: But you can get forty one at points bet plus 265 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: one twenty five if you like the Houston Texas for 266 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the upset. Now, look, Sam, when you beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, 267 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: that's gotta be like the b in your bonnet, right 268 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: the feather in your cap or whatever other head where 269 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: you know the comment I want to make here, But 270 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans I think have something fun and special 271 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: going on. Does it carry with them on the road 272 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. That's the question. 273 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: It does for sure. It The better quarterback in CJ. 274 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: Stroud is getting the points. Yeah, it is as easy 275 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: as that he is. You know, he's lighting it up. 276 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: You may not have passed the S two cognition test, 277 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: but he's certainly passing the eye test on the film. 278 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: I mean he is playing lights out again. People thought 279 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: he'd take a step back against this Pittsburgh defense, which 280 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: has shown to have some holes in it at this point, 281 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: but again putting up that much yardage and making these 282 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: defenses look silly weak after a week, he got to 283 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: buy in at this point. 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: All right, Pat, how do you want to buy into 285 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: this game with CJ. Stroud? You want to just take 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: him outright? Do you want to go ahead? Because if you, 287 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: if you do, want to go ahead, take him on 288 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: the moneyliner a game plus one twenty five just to 289 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: win this football game. 290 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it out right. 291 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: And the Falcons were the darlings of people in the 292 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: preseason to win the NFC South, and I think people 293 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: should maybe be second guessing that because you know, once 294 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: again we're in the situation where Arthur Smith is not 295 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: utilizing his best offensive talent to maximum capacity. 296 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: Sam said it. 297 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, there is a decisive quarterback advantage for the 298 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: Texans here and making CJ. Stroud's performance so far all 299 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: the more impressive the fact that he's got like none 300 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: of his starting offensive linemen playing right now, well maybe 301 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: one three are on ir and Laramie Tunsel didn't play 302 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: either on Sunday. So they picked their teeth with the 303 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, they absolutely destroyed the Steelers on Sunday. 304 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: That was not even a close game. 305 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do a dealer. Just check on 306 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: Bogman tonight when we do. 307 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: I know, man, I really. 308 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: See it's okay. 309 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: And like, I don't think the Texans are capable of 310 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: being in a letdown spot right now. They're just too 311 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: young for that. And like ta Meco Ryans is, he's 312 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: doing such a good job with this team, like they're 313 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: they entered Week four third in special Teams DVOA. The 314 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: defense like we thought they were going to be under 315 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: man but the defense is overachieved. The offense is tremendously overachieving. Yeah, 316 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: I like Houston more. I think they're the better team. 317 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: While Pat was talking that plus money went to even 318 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: by the way, so just saying like that's all right, 319 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: people are in on it. They must have been, you know, 320 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: somehow listening live. Maybe there's a listening device in this room. 321 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just saw that happen over 322 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: at betting Pros. So get in while the getting's good 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: because the word might be turning of this game as 324 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: people sit back and start to marinate about ZJ. Stroud 325 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and what they've seen so far. We haven't seen a 326 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: win yet from the Carolina Panthers. They are zero and four. 327 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: They are eight and a half point underdogs right now 328 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: on FanDuel going to the Detroit Lions. We'll look really strong. 329 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: We'll have some extra rest, who got all their running 330 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: backs back in healthy last week against the Green Bay Packers. 331 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Forty four is the number on FanDuel right now. You 332 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: get forty three and a half on the over over 333 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: on bet MGM. If you like Carolina for the upset 334 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: and I don't, it's plus three forty on the money line. 335 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: But let's talk about this. Detroit looks really good. Pat 336 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: This is a big number though, eight and a half 337 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: pretty large. Are we that confident yet with the Detroit Lions, 338 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: even against a winless Carolina Panther team, that they're going 339 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: to cover that number? 340 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: No, And maybe we should be. Our friend Derek Brown 341 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: was just pointing out on a Fantasy Pros podcast how 342 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: good this Detroit defense has been. And this has turned 343 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: into a near elite run defense, and it's been pretty 344 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: good against pass too. They're dialing up pressure. They made 345 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers offense look pretty inept for at 346 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: least the first half of the Week three game on 347 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: Thursday night. So I don't know, do we see a 348 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: letdown game for the Lions after that big divisional win? 349 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe not. 350 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: I don't know they've had extra extra prep time or 351 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: will have had. I just I feel like we're due 352 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: for a decent Bryce Young game which we have not gotten. 353 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: Me like, no offenses looked so ragged, but I just like, 354 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: I can't lay this many points with the Lions. 355 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm just not there. 356 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Yet, Sam, Like I said, there's a couple early games. 357 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I really like. This one is another one where we 358 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: spoke about earlier where I feel like, if you wait, 359 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: this one's going to grow bigger and it could even 360 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: start to you know, scratch nine and a half or 361 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: even ten. That's I think when I would bet Carolina. 362 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree? 363 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: I do. 364 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean this is a slightly lower total. It's around 365 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: forty three, forty four points right now, so if it 366 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: gets out to ten, then I think Carolina is certainly 367 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: the side to take. The thing is that the Lions 368 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: should be able to get ahead early and then hold 369 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: that league against one of the leagues, if not the 370 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 2: league's worst rushing defense in EPA per play. Carolina just 371 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: can't really stop anyone right now. Obviously had a somewhat 372 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: decent game against Minnesota, but I just think that Detroit 373 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: will be able to get a lead early and then 374 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: continue to run the ball with David Montgomery like they 375 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: did this past week. 376 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: Now, we don't have definitive news yet, but it would 377 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: certainly see that Kenny Pickett is in danger, I believe 378 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: of missing. Is that safe to say everybody in danger 379 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: of missing Week five? Can I say that I can? 380 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Okay good in danger of missing Week five? They are 381 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: at home with potentially Mitchell Trubisky being there. They are 382 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: four point home underdogs coming in here on points bet 383 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: over on the on their side against the Baltimore Ravens 384 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: who had a big win in Cleveland. Again no Deshaun Watson, 385 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: so we want to take it out of that, but 386 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: you get Baltimore minus two and a half right now 387 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: at bet Rivers. The number for this game obviously slugfest 388 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: typical AFC North forty on points bet forty one on 389 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: sugar House. If you like the under if you like 390 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to figure it out with mister Bisky plus one 391 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: sixty of points. Bet that's the number here. So it's 392 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: been a very weird year so far. I would say 393 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: it was a strange September sam for this division. I 394 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: think overall, I think it's safe to say we thought 395 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: this was going to be the Juggernaut Division and it's 396 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: starting to look like is Can anybody stay healthy and 397 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: win this thing? It's a great opportunity for the Baltimore 398 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: Ravens to handle their business against a down and out 399 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steeler team. Will they do that? And do you 400 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: want to hop on this line now before people have 401 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: more time to think about what Pittsburgh isn't doing well 402 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: or doesn't have for this game? 403 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I hate to say hip, but the 404 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: line has already moved out. It looks like it's at 405 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: minus four and a half for the Ravens right now. 406 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: And this is probably probably one of my biggest conviction 407 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: plays of the week, taking Baltimore with the points and 408 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: the points it's the Steelers defense again I mentioned it earlier, 409 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: does not look like it really was what we thought 410 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: it would be. Baltimore just put up a great offensive 411 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: performance against Cleveland, who again we I think still think 412 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: is a phenomenal defense, and the Pittsburgh offense is just 413 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: so underwhelming. I mean, even if you get Mitch Trubisky, 414 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: which might be an upgrade over Kenny Pickett at this point, 415 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: or at least it's something different. 416 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Careful, you never know comes back, Todgen. 417 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: The Baltimore defense has been playing exceptionally well, and again 418 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: you can look at some of their opponents that they've faced, 419 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: but you have the schedule that you have and the 420 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: way that they're stopping some of these opposing offenses is 421 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: very impressive, especially with the missing players they've had. 422 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: Pat Your thoughts and feelings about Baltimore Pittsburgh. 423 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, you mentioned h Kenny Pickett was in danger 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: missing this game. Would you say he's in grave danger 425 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: of missing this job. 426 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: You're wearing. 427 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: You're wearing a. 428 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 4: Top gun T shirt. I had to do a Tom 429 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: Cruise EF. 430 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: That's there. I do podcasts or people die. That's it. 431 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: That's where I stand on a wall and I do 432 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: shows all day. That's what I do. You want to bet, 433 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: go download the betting pros app. That's what you do. Otherwise, 434 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: don't tell me how to do my job. It's a 435 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: little few good men, everybody, just in case, just in case, 436 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: you go ahead, packed titu off. 437 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen 438 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: a Mike Tomlin Steelers team look this disheveled before, Like 439 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: they just don't look bad. And Tomlin has Someone asked 440 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: him if they were going to be changes made this week, 441 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: and he stated very affirmatively, yes, there would be changes 442 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: this week. I don't know what that means, but I 443 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: don't think this can be repaired. And one of the 444 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 3: few things that the Steelers have had working for them, 445 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: at least up until Week four was their pass rush. 446 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: They were third in pressure rate going into week four 447 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 3: and first in sacks. Couldn't get to CJ. Stroud at 448 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: all despite that injury riddled Texans offensive line, and Lamar 449 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: Jackson has been getting the ball out really quickly and 450 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: neutralizing pressure like that has worked fabulously well with Todd 451 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: Monkin redoing this Ravens offense. So yeah, I like the 452 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: Ravens here. I would play this up to five. I 453 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: have no confidence in the Steelers at this point. 454 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, Scott Bogman, Well, I mean I think Scott would 455 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: agree with you knowing Bogs, he believed he might have 456 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: less confidence. Speaking of little confidence, we're gonna talk about 457 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots next, but before we do, just a reminder. 458 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: When you're making picks, do them in the Betting Pros app, 459 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: but join our NFL contest so that you can win 460 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: some free stuff. 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The offense looks terrible. Somehow, I don't 478 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: know how, but somehow they are still one point favorites 479 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: at home against the New Orleans Saints. I don't know. 480 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I just this makes my head hurt. This line is 481 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: completely wrong, Pat, and I don't know what I have 482 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: to do about this, but give me New Orleans all 483 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: the time in this game. New Orleans at plus one 484 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: oh five on the money line, yes, please? The total 485 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: obviously where you think it is. It's thirty nine and 486 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: a half floating between that and thirty nine. To me, 487 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: it's New Orleans just going there and handing New England 488 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: because I think New England's just done. 489 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 4: It could be, Joe, and I can understand. 490 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: I mean, look how bad Mac Jones was against a 491 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: very good Dallas defense, and the Saints defense is pretty 492 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: good too. But I just don't know if I can 493 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: take the Saints confidently when I'm not totally convinced in 494 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: their ability to put up points like that. Passing game 495 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: just didn't look good yesterday, has has sputtered at times 496 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: this year, and man going into New England as you know, 497 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: a road favorite. I can't do it if it was 498 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: a Tom Brown, I know, I know. And they have 499 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: no Matthew Judah. That does take some of. 500 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: The the secondaries all hurt. Everybody named name Jones except 501 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Mac is hurt on this football team. It's a it's 502 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: a problem. 503 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 504 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: And I don't want to bet the Patriots in this one, Joe, 505 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: But I don't really want to bet the Saints either, Sam. 506 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: I want to bet the Saints. In fact, I already have. 507 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: So what do you think about this one? 508 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm right or wrong, I would employ 509 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: you to just have some fun with it. Joe. I 510 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: can't say far far, far enough away from this game. 511 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if it even gets onto red zone this Sunday, 512 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna use it as an opportunity to go to 513 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: the bathroom. It just the Saints offense does not look 514 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: good either. These defenses are somewhat decent. I mean, they've 515 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: held their own in some situations. But I you know, 516 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: I bet the over in the Patriots Cowboys game because 517 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: both of those teams play pretty fast, and it still 518 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: didn't get there, even though it was twenty eight to 519 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: three at the half. I mean that the Patriots, even 520 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: trying to get some zappy hour match again, couldn't do anything. 521 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: They got nothing. They got no playmakers on offense, they 522 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: got no pass rush without Judah on the secondary's banged 523 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: up is a hot mess. New Orleans Saints boocket. There 524 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: you go. I'll stand on my island. That's fine. Miami 525 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Dolphins at nine and a half point favorites on DK 526 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: against the New York Giants. We'll see what the Giants 527 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: have for us tonight. We also don't know definitively if 528 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: we get Saquon Barkley back or not again. High angle 529 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: sprains take weeks. He has had now weeks, he's probably 530 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: unlikely to play tonight. Forty nine and a half is 531 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: the number here, plus three ninety for the Giants upset. 532 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: This is a tough situation here because you know, obviously 533 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Miami did struggle in Buffalo, but this feels like they 534 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: get right back on track. The question is sam is 535 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the nine too many points? 536 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: It's too many points for me to bet it. I 537 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: think it's right right about where I would have it 538 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna be the Giants on a short week. They'll 539 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: be traveling to Miami to play down there, and I 540 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: think this is going to be just a huge bounce 541 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: back spot for the Dolphins offense, who struggled quite a 542 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: bit on Sunday against the Bill. So I make it 543 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: about minus nine and a half for Miami, but it's 544 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: still it's a lot to lay there. 545 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: Fitz, what about the total in this one too? Forty 546 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: nine and a half? I mean, I feel like Miami's 547 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: so explosive and they got held in check a little 548 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: bit last week obviously on Sunday, but the Giants have 549 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: had problems holding anybody in check if you like. 550 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: They have, Joe. 551 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 3: And the only concern is that the Giants are going 552 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: to do their part to get it over the total. 553 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: That's my hang up on the total. I think Miami 554 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: is going to do their part. And look, the Dolphins 555 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: ran into a buzz saw in Buffalo. And the thing is, Joe, 556 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: do we really think this Giants defense is capable of 557 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: disrupting Miami's offensive machinery. 558 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: The way Buffalo did on Sunday? Yeah? 559 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: I don't think so either. So and on a short 560 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: week of preparation and rest. Like, I think this is 561 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: a great bounce back spot for the Dolphins. I'm happy 562 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: to lay the points here. 563 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: Fitzie and I were talking about this next game here 564 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: before the show. Philadelphia four and oh five point favorites 565 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: over on Caesars, five and a half on DK right 566 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: now against Los Angeles Rams. They're going to travel to LA. 567 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: I get all, like, you know, they got to travel 568 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: and all this stuff, But forty six and a half 569 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: is the number forty seven on DraftKings, four six and 570 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: a half on FanDuel like LA for the upsets plus 571 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: one eighty eight fits. I'm confident in the Eagles. I 572 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: know a lot of people have lost some confidence in them. 573 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: Feels like because they let the Commanders kind of you know, 574 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: as excuse me, as Sam was saying earlier, they played 575 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: down to the Commanders a little bit. Okay, fine, but 576 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: maybe that's a good gut check for them. They came 577 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: out victorious. Now you got to go to LA play 578 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: football game here, and I think that the five is 579 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: pretty generous. I like the Eagles in the five pap, 580 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: But what do you think of this game? 581 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: If you had showed me this total or this line 582 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: in August show and told me that, like there were 583 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: no major injuries to the Eagles affecting this line, Like 584 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: I would have bet a mortgage payment on the Eagles here. 585 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: But they have not been the wrecking ball that we 586 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: thought they were going to be. The Rams have not 587 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: been the pile of rubble we thought they were going 588 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: to be. This is just a line I sort of 589 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 3: look at and throw my hands in the air. I'm 590 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: not sure what to do it. I mean, I could 591 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: definitely envision a scenario where the Eagles blow out the Rams. 592 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 3: I could envision a scenario where the Rams hang with 593 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: the Eagles. What I'm worried about is the scenario where 594 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: the Eagles are holding a comfortable lead, keeping the Rams 595 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: at arm's length, and in a back door type of 596 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 3: situation at the end of the game. So I just 597 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: I'm walking away from this one. 598 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: All right. So Patsy's four outcomes in this one, Sam, 599 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: what do you see? 600 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: I'd clean with the Eagles right now. Cooper cup is 601 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: expected to resume practice this week, which is good, but 602 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford did sustain a hip injury during the game 603 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: against Indianapolis. It sounds like he will be fine. But 604 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: just something to monitor throughout the week. Eagles offense hasn't 605 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: looked tremendous by any means, but they're still holding their own. 606 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: I think they've scored thirty plus points in multiple games 607 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: so far this season. The Rams don't play a ton 608 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: of man, but I think the Eagles offense should be 609 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: able to work their way down the field easily enough. 610 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: The over in this game is already getting steamed a ton. 611 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: It's up to fifty points now, so we're expecting some 612 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: shootout potential here and. 613 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Recovery Los Angeles, right, that's what we're also expecting. So 614 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: we'll see what kind of impact that makes on this game. 615 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: So if you like the over, you might want to 616 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: bet it now before the number keeps move. In Cincinnati 617 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: Bengals one in three, they I'd be saying that against 618 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals one and three now, the Cardinals at 619 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: plus five or home underdogs. Sam I already took this 620 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: last night when I was putting the show planned together. 621 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: Forty two and a half is the number on Fandal 622 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: forty two at sugar House plus one seventy five for 623 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals to win outright, So it's my lack 624 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: of confidence right now. The Cincinnati Bengals. They're a much 625 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: better theoretical team, but they are not a better team 626 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: right now in terms of practicality. And Arizona has proven 627 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: that they play hard. They're not a good football team, 628 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: but they do play hard. So that's where this comes 629 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: for me with the early value. But you think I'm 630 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: a waft bass here. Do you think that Cincinnati just 631 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: completely gets right here and no T Higgins and they 632 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: just go out to Arizona and just you know, put 633 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: a big hurting on them. 634 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think you're right here. I'm 635 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: not touching it just because of like that smidge percent 636 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: that Cincinnati actually is Cincinnati and they're going to be 637 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: most likely without T. Higgins, which is a huge bummer. 638 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: Arizona again has been very plucky this season. They had 639 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: it within one score again San Francisco in second half 640 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: this past weekend, then the game sort of got away 641 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: from them. 642 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: But they have about the Giants too. Look what they 643 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: did to the Yeah, I mean same thing, and the 644 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys they beat them, Like when do we start 645 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: giving the Cardinals a little credit. 646 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where, again you know, to 647 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: Pat's point on the last game, if you would have 648 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: told me that this was going to be the line 649 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: by this point in the season, with you know, no 650 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: major injuries to the Bengals save T Higgins, like I'd 651 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: be smashing the Bengals. But it's with the way that 652 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: offense looks it. It just I can't swallow that pill 653 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: right now. 654 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Look, I understand. Look, I get it. It's hard 655 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: to say things like the Houston Texans should be favored, 656 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: and it's hard to say things like the Arizona Cardinals 657 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: you should take those points because they're gonna battle. Pat. 658 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm here. I've seen enough in September. It's October. 659 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: I've turned the page. It's not that I believe in 660 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: the arason on a Cardinals so much as I believe 661 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: in them enough, and I'm disbelieving in what I've seen 662 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: en Cincinnati, especially that offensive line. They have played terribly 663 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: this year. 664 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: I'm with you, Joe. 665 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: I hit the Cardinals when I first saw this line 666 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: on Sunday Nights. Here's the thing, Joe, I think there's 667 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: a decent chance we don't see Joe Burrow play this 668 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: game like, in which case this line probably winds up 669 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: being something close to a pick him. I mean, Burrow 670 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: is just so clearly compromised right now, and it seems 671 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: like coaching malpractice to keep running him out there when 672 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: like he can't move in the pocket at all. And 673 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: I just wonder if this is the week where Zach 674 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: Taylor finally makes that concession and decides to do that, 675 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: and if so, like, I want to be on this 676 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: line before that happens. So even if Burrow does play 677 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: Joe you said it, I mean Jonathan Gannon, Yes, he 678 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: was a lightning rod for jokes and everything with his 679 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: lesson inspiring inspirational speech before the start of the season. 680 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 3: But man, like he's got these guys playing so hard 681 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 3: you have to at least admire it. Like they are 682 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: not gonna roll over for teams. 683 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: It appears they are not, all right. The New York 684 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: Jets one and two had the Denver one in three. 685 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Right now New York is one in three now two 686 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: pardon me, three point underdogs right now. The New York 687 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: Jets are going into Denver. That feels right. Forty's the 688 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: number that feels right plus one thirty five for the 689 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: Jets to win. Intriguing to me. But again it's the 690 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: confidence of like, I know Zach Wilson did some things better, 691 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: but still made enough mistakes where he gave the game 692 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: away and the game got away from them. Pat, do 693 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: you see any value here at this one? Now? I 694 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: know Sam was running away from games, this is the 695 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: one I'm running away from. 696 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do see value. 697 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: I want to bet the Jets on the money line, 698 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: and because I still have a lot of faith in 699 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: that defense, and I don't have a lot of faith 700 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: in Zach Wilson. Although he did play better against the 701 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: Chiefs on Sunday night, However, he is running into a 702 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos defense that nursed the Chicago Bears offense back 703 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: to good health on Sunday, at least until you know, 704 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: the Bears got into their mistake prone ways again in 705 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: the second half. But I don't know what to believe 706 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: in with Denver anymore. Like, I just don't think there's 707 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: a lot to like here with them, and I think 708 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 3: the Jets defense is gonna take it to them. So yeah, 709 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: I want I want to bet the Jets. And we 710 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: haven't seen Denver like do anything with home field advantage 711 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: either this year. Like I mean, losing to the Raiders, 712 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: losing to the Commanders. Yeah, give me the Jets here. 713 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: By the way, that number for the Cardinals game is 714 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: already at three, So if you like it, you better 715 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: get it at Sugarhouse A plus five while it's still 716 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: up there, because that's not gonna last much longer. Sam, again, 717 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: this one scares me. Does it scare you? 718 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: No? I'm with Pat. I think this is my sort 719 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: of second big conviction play here. Going with the Jets. 720 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: I think their defense is absolutely legit. Their raw numbers 721 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 2: are not phenomenal, but when you consider the opponents they've 722 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: faced in Dallas, Kansas City, and Buffalo and what they've 723 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: done to sort of hold those offenses in check, I 724 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: think it's incredibly impressive. Again, Pat mentioned it. We saw 725 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: what the Broncos defense can do for one poor offense 726 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: in Chicago, and I think they'll do the same thing 727 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: for a Jets offense that again didn't look out of 728 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: sorts and has, in my opinion, some better playmakers on 729 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: offense as well. 730 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next one here. I 731 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: got the Kansasity Chiefs taking on the Minnesota Vikings. The 732 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: number for this one's fifty two. Minnesota's defense is not great. 733 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: We know that just because they beat the Carolina Panthers. 734 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm not getting all crazy about that Minnesota six point underdogs. 735 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: I love a home underdog, but I don't know if 736 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: I love them this much. Here your thoughts on this one, 737 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Kansas City and Minnesota, Sam. 738 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: I'm laying the points with Kansas City. I think their 739 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 2: offense again played not great against the Jets on Sunday 740 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: Night Football, and the Vikings defense is not as good 741 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: as the Jets defense. I think that the Kansas City 742 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: Chiefs sorts are just gonna roll over them. Brian Floras 743 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: Blitz is a ton, and I think Patrick Mahomes will 744 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of the one on one 745 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: receivers with those Blitz packages coming fits. 746 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: Do you see this one the same way? 747 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: I don't really see any betting value here, Joe. Maybe 748 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 3: the over might intrigue me to some degree, but I don't. 749 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: I don't like either side. 750 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: Okay, I have it. Let's get to the last two 751 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: games we have here. A big one Sunday Night Football, 752 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy, San Francisco forty nine ers. They're in San 753 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: France and Franz three and a half point favorites in 754 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: this game. Forty five and a half is the number 755 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: Dallas to win outright? Plus one sixty five? All right, 756 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: here we go. Dallas rebounded. Now, Micah Parsons will check 757 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: on his healthy and rolled his ankle in that game Sunday. 758 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: But Dallas defense bounce back in a big way after 759 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: a disappointing game. Dak Prescott's already got it on his 760 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: craw about the San Francisco forty nine Ers. He already 761 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: heard stuff after the game last night. So here we are, 762 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers undefeated Dallas three and one, pat. How 763 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: do you see this game? 764 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: I see it as a great game that I do 765 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: not want to beat Joe and I just like I 766 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 3: think the line in the total are spot on. And 767 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 3: maybe Dallas has shown a few more blemishes than San 768 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: Francisco has to this point. But let's not forget Dallas 769 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: really should have beaten the forty nine ers in San 770 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 3: Francisco in the playoffs last year. Like I thought, the 771 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers were lucky to escape that game with 772 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: a win. So I think these two teams are still 773 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: reasonably even matched. I think maybe the forty nine Ers 774 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 3: are a little bit better, but I don't want to 775 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 3: lay three and a half to the Cowboys. 776 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough to me, this is a fun 777 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: anytime touchdown score one like you're looking for some individual 778 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: props maybe I mean CMC scoring a touchdown feels like 779 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: a lock every single week, Sam, But what do you 780 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: think about this when any early value? See gonna wait 781 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: and see how it unfolds. 782 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: I'm with fits here, I'm gonna wait on it. I 783 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 2: don't think that San Francisco will get down to minus three, 784 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: but if it does, that's when I would certainly jump 785 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: on it. I think it'll stick right around three and 786 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: a half for the majority of the week, unless we 787 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: again hear something with potentially Michael Parsons. I think he 788 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: could cause that to obviously move in in favor of 789 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. But I'm laying off it for 790 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 2: right now and just looking forward to a great Sunday 791 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: night football matchup. 792 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: Last one Monday night football. Your Packers Boys are go 793 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: ahead and taking on the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders 794 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: can get a plus one and a half over on 795 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: fan Do we get Green Bay a plus one over 796 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: on DK? Right now? Forty three and a half is 797 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: the number. This one's very tight here, Sam, I don't 798 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: know about this one. I'm not sure exactly why this 799 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: line is where it is because I'm far more confident 800 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: in green Bay than I am in Las Vegas. But 801 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: what do you think? 802 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 4: I agree? 803 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: And Green Bay has a lot going for them. Obviously, 804 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: played on Thursday night this past week and are playing 805 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: on Monday night this upcoming week, so they get eleven 806 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: days of rest, eleven days of preparation for Las Vegas. 807 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: It could be enough time for Luke Musgrave to clear 808 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: concussion protocol. Hopefully they get Eldon Jenkins back, Alexander and 809 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: Defandre Campbell. So the health is definitely trending in the 810 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: right direction with that extra rest, excuse me, extra rest. 811 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: Las Vegas is just eighteenth and pressure eight this year, 812 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 2: so I don't think we see quite the reckoning on 813 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: the Packers offensive line that we saw against Detroit Thursday night. 814 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: So I love Green Bay in this spot. I'm laying 815 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: the one and a half points with them. 816 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Pat your thoughts on green Bay Vegas. To close it. 817 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: Out, I'm going to continue my season long fade of 818 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels and the Raiders, and like I do think 819 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: green Bay is the better team. And even though I'm 820 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 3: assuming that Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be back from 821 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: his concussion for the Raiders this week, Like, are they 822 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 3: going to have a home field advantage because green Bay 823 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: fans travel really well, I suspect there will be. This 824 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 3: is going to be like a neutral site game, and 825 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 826 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: Take too much out of them lose it against the Lions. 827 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: I think the Lions are a very strong football team 828 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: this year, very hungry football team too. So I'm with you, guys. 829 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: I think Green Bay is the confident one. And remember everybody, 830 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: make sure you set those line alerts over on your 831 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: Betting Pros app so you know when on the line 832 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: movement happens. 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