1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Mind listener Mail. My name is Robert Lamb, I'm Joe McCormick, 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and we're here with our trustee mail bought Carney for 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: our weekly listener Mail episode. Is this the second of 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: our weekly listener Mail episodes? I think that's right, it is. Yes. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: I feel like we should jump right in and and 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: not delay at all. All right, hit us with it, Carney, 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: What what do we have? Okay? This first message is 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: about our episodes on spinning, and this comes from Jenna 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: that it actually came in before we recorded the episode, 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: so it'll require a bit of backtracking. Jenna says, hello, all, 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: I've just been listening to your listener Mail episode from 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: November nineteenth, and you were talking about ballet dancers dancing 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: on point and suggested you may do a future episode 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: on spinning humans and the related centrifugal forces. Please consider 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: pole dancers if you do pursue this subject. While working 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: on a spinning pole, the speeds achieved in the length 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: of time spent spinning in a single direction at a 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: time are considerable, all while expected to dismount or land gracefully, 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: midspin and continue without looking like you're about to face plant. 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: I enjoy hearing your episodes whenever they come out, along 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: with the Stuff you Should Know podcast, equipping me with 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: very random facts which I revel in relating to my 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: friends and colleagues. Keep up the good work, Jenna, Well, Jenna. 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we recorded the episodes about spinning before I read 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: this message, but I decided to UH to look it 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: up and see if there were there was anything interesting 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: I could find about pole dancing physics, and wouldn't you 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: know what I came across a really good article. There 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: was one by Jennifer Ulette that was in Gizmodo published 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, called The Simple Physics of pole Dancing, 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: and this actually does get into some very interesting stuff 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that you might not think about. Obviously, pole dancing is 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: going to require massive amounts of like core and upper 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: body strength. It's a real athletic feat, especially the more 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: like athletic you know, competition style people do that I 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: was seeing some videos of in this article. But it 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: also apparently involves the careful management of friction, which is 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: kind of funny but also really interesting. So there's this 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: section in the article where Lett is speaking with Valerie Jamison, 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: who's a content director for New Scientist and who has 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: a PhD in physics, and so Lett writes, quote, you 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: need friction, but not too much and not too little. 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: It depends on what move you're trying to execute. Quote. 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: In some of these moves, people are hanging upside down 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: by the crook of their knee and then they slide down, 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: says Jamison, just thinking of that as terrifying to me. Um, 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: But the dancers can pull it off because they have 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: such fine motor control. They contract their muscles and press 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: into the poll to stick, then loosen their hoole just 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: enough to slide until they need to stop. The skimpy 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: outfits can be a boon in that regard, because bear 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: skin has the right friction coefficient to help dancers stick 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: to the pole, perhaps with a light dusting of resin 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: on the hands and thighs to keep sweat at bay. 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: And there's also a note about the selection of footwear 58 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: affecting what you can do in pole dancing, because apparently, 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: like different materials on your shoes will help you get 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: a better grip on the pole. With your foot if 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: you're using that to hold yourself up in the air 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: while you're doing something else with the rest of your body. 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: Um So anyway, Yes, I I am fully impressed by 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: the the athleticism of this, just as I am with 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: with ballet and skating. Interesting. Yeah, I wish we'd had 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: had this one on hand when we'd done those episodes, 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: but that's getting to discuss it here on listener mail. 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: That's that's close enough. Yeah, uh, Rob, do you want 69 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: to read this message about anti metaboli. Yeah, here's one 70 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: on anti metabolis from Christopher Christopher. I hello. As someone 71 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: whose bachelor's degree was in linguistics and psychology, the topic 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: of anti Metaboli's on your Stuff to Blow Your Mind 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: podcast was a nice treat in my daily playlist this morning. 74 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for that very much. As someone whose masters 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: was in human factors engineering and whose pH d was 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: oriented around topics of situated cognition, I felt compelled to 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: try and write into a podcast host for the first time. 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: I typically listened to podcasts while I walked my dog 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: twice each day, so maybe it was an easier connection 80 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: for me to make, But I was surprised your discussion 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: did not approach any of the physical aspects that might 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: well coincide with your explored topic of human proclivities. For A, B, B, 83 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: A patterns, before humans could write, they could walk, and 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: assumably most successful walks bring the walker back home again 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: in the same path. In reverse, when you set off, 86 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: you might encounter things in a specific order A, B, C, D, E, 87 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and then when coming back, the bread crumbs can lead 88 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: you home in a comforting and secure matter e, D, C, 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: B A. In the most simple terms, I go from 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: here to there A than b, and then return from 91 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: there to here be than A. I am the same 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: person in the same place, so I feel complete, satisfied, accomplished, etcetera. 93 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: So this primitive spatial dimension might easily be associated with 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: an intuitive feeling of comprehensiveness when exposures are experienced in 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: a reverse order. Moreover, time and some randomness has passed 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: between in a unidirectional manner, between the start and end 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: of the walk, or between successive days of similar routines, 98 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: so the opportunity for change is also there, such as 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: with an A, B, B A pattern that presents a 100 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: negation or change in meaning e g. The journey is 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: the destination I am not exactly the same as when 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I started out, and isn't that sometimes of interest and importance. 103 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: My interests in pursuits and situated cognition as another perhaps 104 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: they're extended or advanced paradigm of cognitive psychology e g. 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Behavioralism than cognitivism, than situativism. Challenge me to imagine and 106 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: explore how cognition and thinking does not really only simply 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: exists slash reside within the brain, but also outside of it, 108 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: in the body and its movements and environments through various artifacts, technology, cultures, etcetera. 109 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: My profession in human factors and user experience tends to 110 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: reward more holistic study and understanding of operations and environments 111 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: in which usage based interfaces and designs succeed in respects 112 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: to given constraints. So again, thank you for your interesting discussion, 113 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: and I hope these above thoughts may bring you new 114 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: and exciting ones. Cheers, Christopher. This is really interesting, you know, Joe, 115 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: because this uh discussing you know, returning in reverse order, 116 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: the backtracking to come back. Uh. This reminds me of 117 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: our recent episode on foraging and the one paper that 118 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: looked at potential differences in the division of labor between 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: hunters and foragers, and how the forager would would would 120 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: be more likely to return along the exact same route, 121 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: whereas the hunter would go out to kind of a 122 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: winding track trailing, you know, trailing the prey, but then 123 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: would have to make it They couldn't retrace their steps 124 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: because it was such a winding trail. They would have 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: to make a direct bee line back to camp. Interesting. Yeah, 126 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if that has any any real role 127 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: in this discussion, but but it made me think of it. Yeah, 128 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: that's another It's one of those things that I think 129 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: it'd be difficult to demonstrate this, but it's definitely an 130 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: interesting idea that something about uh, you know, basic types 131 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: of foraging and exploration activities would have psychological relevance even 132 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: to abstract concepts like the words and the sentence or 133 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: ideas in a list. Yeah, and the the A B, 134 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: B A thing too. Like it makes me think of 135 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: the classic sitcom format, right, you must always in your 136 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: journey at the beginning again, you know, uh, there there's 137 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: something comforting in that that you must come back to 138 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: the same place and then the next episode will be 139 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: another departure and a return. Yeah. Oh, because in the 140 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: sitcom nothing ever changes. So are you ready for the 141 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: next message? Let's do it. This is from Akhmed. Ahmed says, 142 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: hey guys, longtime listener and stuff to blow your mind 143 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: lover here. Your episode on anti metaboli and its frequency 144 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: in old Middle Eastern texts made me think of the 145 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: kali Vala, which is absolutely jam packed with similar repetitious 146 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: turns of phrase. I think the kali Vla might make 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: for a rich subject for you to do an episode on. 148 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: For one, the religion slash myth of the pre Christian 149 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: Finnic people's is very interesting and relatively neglected compared to Greek, Norse, Egyptian, 150 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: etcetera myths. The story of how Elias Loan wrote, a 151 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: nineteenth century physician went about collecting scraps of oral tradition 152 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: stories and putting them, sometimes with the seems very much 153 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: showing in a front to back order. Is also neat 154 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: and reminiscent of the hard task that other compilers of 155 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: folk tradition like Avid have also had to do. Lastly, 156 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: there are cool echoes of the kala v Ala in 157 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: modern culture. For example, there seems to be some evidence 158 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: that the Call of Vla is Demi god protagonist Vina 159 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Moynan contributed greatly to Tolkien's creation of Tom Bomba Dill 160 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: or Gandalf. Anyways, keep up the great work, Ahmed. And 161 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I looked up Vina Moyn and uh, I hope I'm 162 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: saying that sort of close. I listened to a pronunciation 163 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: and that that's about as close as I can do. Um. 164 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: He is like a figure who was born of this 165 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: like ocean creature, and like when he was born, he 166 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: was already an old wizard with the knowledge of the world. 167 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Strange magical figure. There's a scene I was reading about 168 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: in the in the epic poem where he has to 169 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: build a harp out of fishbones. Is pretty cool. But 170 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: I also looked up some quotes from the Kla Valla 171 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: and these are some passages I found from the John 172 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: Martin Crawford translation that I wanted to read. So this 173 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: first one he goes like this. Thus the ancient Vina 174 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: Moinen in his copper banded vessel left his tribe in 175 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Kali Valla sailing or the rolling billows, sailing through the 176 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: azure vapors, sailing through the dusk of evening sailing to 177 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the fiery sunset, to the higher landed regions, to the 178 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: lower verge of heaven. And so there I think you 179 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: see some of those repetitious phrasings that Ahmed was talking about. 180 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: But then also there was another passage that doesn't have 181 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: the same stylistic effects, but I just liked it. Quote. 182 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Thus the wise and worthy singer sings not all his 183 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: garnered wisdom. Better leave unsung some sayings than to sing 184 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: them out of season. Oh that's beautiful. Uh. You know, 185 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: you know one of the things about this character, if 186 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I am not mistaken, this is the primary character in 187 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: the Day the Earth Throws, which was uh you know 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: the Russo Finish film from ninety nine that was featured 189 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: on Mystery Science Theater three thousand. You know, the saga 190 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: of the Sampo. Oh, I don't know if I've seen 191 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: this one. Oh, it's it's quite good. Um, I'm sure 192 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: it's also quite beautiful and like an undegraded uh you 193 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: know copy of the film. But yeah, you also you 194 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: look up this character and you see various illustrations of him, say, 195 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: defending the Sampo against herpet type creatures. Uh so, so yeah, 196 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: this this, this character is the real deal. Nice all right. 197 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: This one comes to us from Jennifer. Jenniver, says Robert 198 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: and Joe. I enjoyed your recent episode on anti Metaboli's. 199 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I was comparing a few 200 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: of the chi asthmas in the Bible and began to 201 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: wonder if that was a literary device that was still 202 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: used today. I found, as you did, that the A, 203 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: B B A anti metaboli is quite common, but the 204 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: longer chiasmas is more difficult to find. Key asthmas kai asthmas. 205 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: It's a, it's a It's gonna be a tough one. 206 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: We keep I was thrilled, thrilled to run across the website. 207 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Pasted below on it, the author maps a thirty point 208 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: chiasthmus in the Back to the Future trilogy and suggest 209 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: that some of the greatness of the franchise comes from 210 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: its use of chiasthmus to bring the viewer to a 211 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: satisfying ending thought. You might enjoy taking a look at 212 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: it and watching the trilogy again while watching out for it. 213 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for what your podcast teaches me and for what 214 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I teach from your podcast to others. This is a 215 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: great point, and a lot of really structurally satisfying fiction 216 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: does exactly this. It It takes the form of a 217 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: broad structural chiasmus that's sort of like goes from A 218 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: to Z and then back from Z to A. Okay, 219 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: This next message is about Thanksgiving food, specifically gravy. This 220 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: is from Matt. Matt says good Day, Robert and Joe, 221 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: Good Day. Regarding gravy and its historical slash cultural importance 222 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: and origins, I'd like to highlight the importance of fat 223 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: in neutral Shan. Gravy in its traditional form, anyway, is fat. 224 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Fat was in many ways a most important component of nutrition, 225 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: or at least it was for some people based on 226 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: the conditions in which they lived e g. Traditional Inuit 227 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: diets come to mind. Though I'm no expert. It's the 228 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: taste and the energy just as important as the meat itself, 229 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: perhaps more so in some cases. I would propose the 230 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: reverence for gravy historically stems in part from the recognition 231 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: that it is a highly valuable energy source, essentially an 232 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: extension of meat itself, a highly valuable food food source 233 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: historically waste, not particularly when the energy factor is so high. 234 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: This might be a hot take, but worth reiterating. I 235 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: think thanks for the episode, Matt. This is a good point, Matt, 236 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,239 Speaker 1: and it made me think about one of the important 237 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: functions of the invention of pans for cooking. Now, you 238 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: could cook meat that you you know, if you you 239 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: caught and killed an animal, you could roast its meat 240 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: over an open fire. But if you think about it, 241 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: you could actually be losing a lot of energy, like 242 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: just dripping off into the fire and burning up and 243 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: creating smoke. Once you have a pan to cook in, 244 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: you can catch everything, so you really don't don't lose 245 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: a drop. Yeah, and it it allows you to create 246 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: those those secondary products that are that are often Yeah, 247 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: it's extremely tasty, all right. This one comes to us 248 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: from Eric. Hey, mind blowers, that's us, I guess um, 249 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: He says, I was delighted to see that you did 250 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: an episode on one of my favorite topics. Venus so 251 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: much interesting stuff to say about it. First of all, 252 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: you speculated that it would be easier to get a 253 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: rocket to orbit from a balloon than from the surface. 254 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: This is absolutely true on Earth, and there have been 255 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: several attempts to design balloon launched rockets or raccoons, most 256 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: notably a Spanish company called Zero to Infinity. But when 257 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: it comes to Venus, that is a mind boggling understatement. 258 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: Assuming we could build a rocket that could actually survive 259 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: on the surface of Venus, which is not possible with 260 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: current technology, a rocket would have to push against that 261 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: absurdly thick atmosphere, which is hard enough on Earth but 262 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: is ninety times as hard on Venus. We would have 263 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: to land a Saturn five rocket on Venus, fully fueled 264 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: with machinery to keep the the cryogenic fuel below negative 265 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: a hundred degrees celsius in six hundred plus degrees celsius 266 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: temperatures just to get something like the mercury capsule into orbit. 267 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: That might actually be an overestimate estimation, as I haven't 268 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: tried to do the math. I can't stress enough how 269 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: horrible Venus is atmosphere fear is for space exploration. You 270 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: have to go up to fifty kilometers just to get 271 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: to earth like pressures that high up on Earth, and 272 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: you're almost in vacuum. I don't remember you mentioning uh this, 273 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: so my apologies if you did. One difficulty with balloons 274 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: on Venus is the sulfuric acid clouds. I don't recall 275 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: offhand at what altitude these clouds form, but it means 276 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that any balloon not made of glass will have an 277 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: operational lifetime much shorter than on Earth. Balloons might not 278 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: last long enough to make the return to Earth window 279 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: for crude missions. One thing you mentioned off hand was 280 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: whether it was safe to have balloons floating in the 281 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: tops of gas giants owing to radiation. In fact, it's 282 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: actually not as dangerous as you might think. One thing 283 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: the Juno probe discovered is that Jupiter's ionosphere, which is 284 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: the cause of most of the radiation in the region 285 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: of Jupiter, actually has a lower limit, and it doesn't 286 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: extend below a certain altitude. They modified the probes planned 287 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: orbit to pass below this level to boost its lifetime. 288 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: The real problem for a balloon on a gas giant 289 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: is lift. Since gas giants are mostly composed of the 290 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: lightest possible gas, hydrogen, there isn't anything lighter to use 291 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: as a lifting gas except warmer hydrogen. That is, unless 292 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: you can build a rigid balloon that can hold a 293 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: low pressured gas or a vacuum, which is not technically 294 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: feasible yet venus is much better for balloons be since 295 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: its atmosphere is mostly CEO two. Even oxygen or nitrogen 296 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: will work as a lifting gas. So in the future 297 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: we could have habitats not just suspended under a balloon, 298 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: but housed within one. Sorry for it such a long email, 299 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: but as I said, venus is a very exciting topic 300 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: for me. Best wishes and I hope to see thousands 301 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: more great episodes from you, Eric, Eric, You're gonna see 302 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: thousands more great episodes for us in the next two months, 303 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: well certainly before the before two thousand, um and twenty 304 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: one is done. Yeah, there will be what I guess, 305 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: there'll be a thousand more episodes plus right, I can't 306 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: do math in my head right now, it's getting late 307 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: in the day. OKAYET, fantastic email, Eric, Thank you very much. Okay, 308 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: this next message comes to us from Kate. It's about 309 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: our ice episodes from earlier in the year, about pike 310 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: crete and stuff like that. Kate says, Hi, Robert and Joe, 311 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: thanks so much for all you do. I'm a research 312 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: scientist to the National Renewable Energy Lab and your show 313 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: is my go to listen for when I have routine 314 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: housekeeping work around the lab. You keep me entertained while 315 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: making buffers, preparing samples are running simple but time consuming experiments. 316 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to write in and say how much I'm 317 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: enjoying the Weird House Cinema and suggest that the nineteen 318 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: eighty four classic of the Ice Pirates should absolutely go 319 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: on your list. My husband and I rewatched it recently 320 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: and it is as wonderfully bad and hilarious as I 321 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: remember from my youth. I also wanted to tell you 322 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: how much I've enjoyed the episodes on ice that you've 323 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: done in the last couple of months. I'm a little 324 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: late to this party, I know. I wanted to suggest 325 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: a follow up in this vein with an episode on 326 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: cryogenic electron microscopy. This technique involves flash freezing samples in 327 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: such a way that they form vitreous ice, meaning a 328 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: lack of hexagonal structure is formed. This preserves the structure 329 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: of biological molecules dissolved in the sample. In the past 330 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: decade or so, this technique had a huge impact on 331 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: structural biology, as it has allowed visualization of cellular, subcellular, 332 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: or and even individual protein structures while avoiding the difficulties 333 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: and limitations of more traditional X ray crystallography techniques. There 334 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: there is a deep pool of interesting topics to be 335 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: found here, including the details of vitreous ice and how 336 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: it relates to people freezing, slash reanimation WOA, the AI 337 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: of the analysis software that sorts through the higher number 338 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: of images collected and determines the orientations that were captured 339 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: in each. Why older X ray techniques are limited parentheses, 340 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: A lot of proteins can't be crystallized and or only 341 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: certain conformers form into crystals, and the new insights that 342 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: have been made with the technique. Hope this email inspires 343 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: you to consider this topic and keep up with the 344 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: exploration of ice generally, because it is a fascinating topic 345 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: and water is so central to our understanding of life 346 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: as we know it. Thanks for all you do, Cheers Kate, 347 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: And then she's got a PS says you guys should 348 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: also revisit the electric micro bland topic you did a 349 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: few years ago. I dug it up for a re 350 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: listen because I reviewed several grants on this topic recently, 351 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: and there is a ton of new and exciting work 352 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: in this area, including some of our Lab. If you're interested, 353 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I'd be happy to send you references. Okay, so yeah, 354 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: thanks for getting in touch, Kate. I think that's a 355 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: that's a really great idea. Plus, the Ice Pirates um 356 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: maybe worth considering. I don't know, I don't have a 357 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: strong memory of Ice Pirates, but it has a great cast. 358 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: There are a lot of fun connections with it. Is 359 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Dick Miller in it? Um not? I don't know. I 360 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: don't think Dick Millers in it. But you got pretty 361 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: much everybody else Robert Rick, John Carradine, Ron Pearlman, Angelica Houston, 362 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: Bruce v Launch, Ian Ambercrombie. It's it's pretty yea, it's stacked. Okay. 363 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to wrap up with a few listener 364 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: responses to Weird House Cinema? Yeah, yeah, we're already talking 365 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: about it a little bit. Let's let's go all the 366 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: way in. Okay, here's one from Forest Forest says you 367 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: guys briefly mentioned mar Joe Gortoner in a recent episod, so, 368 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: emphasizing what a befuddling figure he is, was wondering if 369 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: you're aware of the documentary mar Jo, It's actually incredible, 370 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: made in nineteen seventy two before he started acting, kind 371 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: of an expose slash heist film about how he was 372 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: manipulated as a child, etcetera. Yeah, thanks for this note 373 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: for us. So Marjo came up when we were talking 374 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: about Star Wars rip off movies. I guess this must 375 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: have been in the Weird House Cinema about Message from Space, 376 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: because Marjo is in Star Crash, the one with with David, uh, 377 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: what's his name? David Hasselhoff, and mar Joe is like 378 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: he's a sidekick character in that movie. There's this amazing 379 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: scene where somebody says, like, no one can withstand these 380 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: deadly rays, and then Marjoe responds, these deadly rays will 381 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: be your death. And but mar Jo, before he was 382 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: trying to do a sci fi you know, be sci 383 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: fi acting career, he had been a child tent revival preachers. 384 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know what what age exactly, he like 385 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: seven or something and doing these revival sermons. It's it's 386 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: really astonishing to imagine. But he later did a documentary 387 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: about all of the techniques that he would use in 388 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: his preaching to get people to hand over money and 389 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's a I've actually never seen the 390 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: full documentary, but I've seen some big clips from it, 391 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: so someday I gotta sit down and just watch the 392 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: whole thing. All right, here's another one. This one comes 393 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: to us from Chris. Chris says, Hi, Rob and Joe 394 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: writing in today to let you know I'm really enjoying 395 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: the new Weird House Cinema episodes. I'm not a classic 396 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: movie buff. We're big into old movies, B movies, but 397 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: I do very much enjoy a good bad movie. After 398 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: listening to your first two episodes of Weird House Cinema, 399 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I had to write in and give you a recommendation 400 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: based on my own weird movie watching experience. The year 401 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: is two thousand and six. I'm living in an apartment 402 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: with two other guys. During college. We splurge and get 403 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: HBO for the summer. Between working odd shifts and making 404 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: just enough money to make rent, we spent much of 405 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: the summer on the couch watching every movie that HBO 406 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: had to offer. In particular, one movie caught our eye, 407 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: uh and after one watch, we knew we couldn't turn away. 408 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: That movie was two thousand fives A Sound of Thunder. 409 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: I've seen this one. We got to finish the email first, 410 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: then I'll talk about it. It was so hilariously bad 411 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: and weird that one watch was never going to be enough. 412 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: We subsequently watched it about once or twice a week 413 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: while it was available on HBO that summer, But once 414 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: we realized its run had come to an end, we 415 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: knew what needed to be done. After some searching, three 416 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: copies of the movie were procured, one for each member 417 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: of are now a Sound of Thunder movie cult. To 418 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: this day, we will text each other every so often 419 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: and remind one another that it's time for a rewatch. 420 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: It's a fun way to bring back some good memories 421 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: and get lost in some bizarre mid two thousand sci fi. 422 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: It might be too recent to make the cut for weird, 423 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: how sent not, but I hope you enjoy a watch 424 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: of it. Either way, All the best and thanks for 425 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: continuing to blow the mind. Get out of here with 426 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: that talk about two recent I have seen this movie. 427 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: It is it? Yeah? I think it's totally worthy. It 428 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: is so strange now, of course it's it's based on 429 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: the Ray Bradberry short story that we've talked about on 430 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: the show before. I think that came up in a 431 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: previous episode. We did one one of our Halloween episodes 432 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: about the Simpsons Time and Punishment episode. I think that 433 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: was because that's based on Ray Bradberry a little bit. 434 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: And so the premise of the story is that there 435 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: are these people who go back in time and hunt 436 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: a dinosaur, and then that leads to these horrible changes 437 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: in the future because of the butterfly effects rolling through time. 438 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: But in this two thousand five version, it's just hard 439 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: to describe how how bizarre and awful this movie is. 440 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: It's got these c g I velociraptors with baboon faces. 441 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: It's it's really special. Has been Kingsley in it though. 442 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: This is a time when Ben Kingsley was getting paid 443 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: for work. He was collecting some checks and this was 444 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: one of those checks. Wow, well it I mean maybe 445 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: worth checking out then, Yeah, because I love the short 446 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: story and I have fond memories of the Ray Bradberry 447 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: theater adaptation of it, which you know, I guess it 448 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: was a little cheesy because you know, it has dinosaurs 449 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: in it. But um, but yeah, I'm I'm I'm kind 450 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: of curious now to exactly exactly what direction they go 451 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: in with this. Yeah, It's been a long time, but 452 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: I would be happy to revisit that one so that 453 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: that may go on the list. Thanks Chris. Okay, let's 454 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: wrap up with one more Weird House email, this one 455 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: from Lindsay. Lindsay says, Hey, Rob and Joe, hope you 456 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: all are doing well. Longtime stuff to blow your mind. 457 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Listener and fellow atlante in here, I've been really enjoying 458 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: the Weird House Cinema series, even though I actually don't 459 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: watch move bees at all. Very often. Often joked that 460 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen a movie from before the year two 461 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: thousand because I basically happen't WHOA. That's okay, Well, most 462 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: of the good movies were made before two thousands, so 463 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: you're doing all right. A post two thousand weird movie 464 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: that I'd love to hear you'll cover is Jennifer's Body 465 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, a supernatural horror slash black comedy where 466 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: Megan Fox plays an unwilling succubus. It's kind of a 467 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: cult movie among feminists and so bad. It's good movie 468 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: enthusiasts alike, and I think it's right up the stuff 469 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: to blow your mind. Cohorts Aali let me know what 470 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: you think, lindsay, Well, I gotta say I watched this 471 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: one a few years ago because it looked like it 472 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: was going to be extremely bad and a good, you know, 473 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: funny Friday night movie. But I actually ended up thinking 474 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: that it was extremely good. Interesting. I remember seeing the 475 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: box art and I think I was afraid to watch 476 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: it because I thought it might be I don't know, 477 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: I was afraid it might be something kind of sleazy 478 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: or something. You know. Um, I think I never really 479 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: looked into it. My memory is that it's it's very clever. Um, 480 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: so it's good to hear. I don't know. I mean, 481 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: maybe I would feel differently if I watched it again, 482 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: but I think it's good. Cool. Well, we'll we'll put 483 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: these on the list because, yeah, I feel like a 484 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: lot of the movies we gravitate to our from before, 485 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, the turn of the millennium. But there are 486 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: plenty of weird films that have come out these last 487 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: twenty years. Uh, you know, so some I think that 488 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: we even have on the list already, So we should 489 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: make sure that we cover, like all the decades of 490 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: cinematic history. I'm not sure where we are and that 491 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: that that yet. I need to. I need to have 492 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: like a punch card for decades. Um Oh. I should 493 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: also point out I think we had had a listener 494 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: right in about the Battle for Indoor episode pointing out 495 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: a couple of mispronunciations, one of which, um, I believe 496 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I said, uh, Cyan Phillips, It is Sean Phillips. Uh So, 497 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: my apologies to the people of Scotland for doing messing 498 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: up on that one. The other one is Warwick Davis, 499 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: not Warwick Davis, um for you know, the beloved actor 500 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: who plays Wicked. Though on that one, this is not 501 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: much of an excuse, but I have to say, even 502 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: when I hear people say Warwick Davis without stressing that 503 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: that that W in the middle of it. I some 504 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: for some reason, I hear the W in the middle 505 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: of the name. I don't know if it's just by 506 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: virtue of having read it, I still hear the W. 507 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I have no, like I said, not a good excuse, 508 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: but uh but that's what's going through my mind. Just 509 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: wait till they get to how we've all the different 510 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: ways we've said Edinburgh. I think they may have mentioned 511 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: that as well. Um So, again, our apologies to the 512 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: Scottish people, um will come back and do another Highlander movie? 513 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: Um in penance for that? Yeah, maybe one said in 514 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: glass Go, how do you like that it doesn't? Does 515 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: people really angry? I wonder what the best truly Scottish 516 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: weird film is, like, not like Outsider Scotland, but like 517 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: true Scottish weird cinema, Like what is the what is 518 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: the pick? I wonder? I don't know. Well, we'll just 519 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: have to have people clue us in. I thought I 520 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: had one for a second, but then I realized it 521 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: was not Scottish. It's Australian and I was thinking of 522 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: a different Russell mukahe movie. Oh yeah, yeah, not even close. Yeah. 523 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: Oh and I don't want to imply that Warwick Davis 524 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: is from Scotland. He's from what Surrey, England? So anyway, um, 525 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. 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