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Speaker 1: Second Date, up Date. I saw a TikTok recently that said,

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Speaker 1: if you're on the dating apps right now, it's like

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Speaker 1: the last chopper out of Vietnam. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: it was actually working. You could find quality matches on

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Speaker 1: there that weren't Russian bots. But now it's like wading

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Speaker 1: through the wet trash compactor that Luke Skywalker got dumped

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Speaker 1: into on the Death Star.

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Speaker 2: So many analogies here that I don't quite understand.

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Speaker 1: It's a gloomy, dark scene on the dating apps right now,

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Speaker 1: and one of our listeners says that he is just

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Speaker 1: about done with it. If we can't reconnect him with

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Speaker 1: the woman that he went out with last week, he

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Speaker 1: might be done completely.

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Speaker 2: Is a straw that's going to break the camel's back,

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Speaker 2: like some sort of an everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to have one from like this century, but.

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Speaker 2: That's okayout Vietnam.

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Speaker 1: So his name is Thomas Thomas, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's honest. I know that your email was very down

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Speaker 1: on yourself, but maybe you were just like super emotional.

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Speaker 1: You don't actually mean that you're ready to give up

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Speaker 1: on the apps, entirely, are you.

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Speaker 3: I've been on these dating ass now for about two years,

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Speaker 3: and I mean, I'm just losing hope. It's just gotten

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Speaker 3: worse and worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, such a ray of positivity.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I listen. I started out in it with plenty

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Speaker 3: of hope, but I'm losing it now because I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm asking for much like I

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Speaker 3: just want somebody that I get along with, that I

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Speaker 3: share things.

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Speaker 1: Okay, slow down with your long list of demands with

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Speaker 1: the perfect woman.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I've been doing things right

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Speaker 3: and I've had good conversations with women. You know, We've

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Speaker 3: had some things in common. There seems to be a

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Speaker 3: spark and that I don't hear back from them, or

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Speaker 3: they don't even show up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, wait, did this woman show up for you?

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Speaker 2: You you said you.

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Speaker 4: Would have Norman.

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Speaker 3: Did this woman?

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Speaker 2: Did?

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Speaker 3: Her name is Diane?

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Speaker 1: Diane?

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Speaker 3: I put so much into this date.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask, right off the bat, did you complain

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Speaker 2: about the scene, the dating.

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Speaker 3: Scene the entire time.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to cut to the chase here.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I did not. We we honestly, we had

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Speaker 3: a wonderful date. We went to this Mediterranean restaurant, okay,

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Speaker 3: and she had a beautiful smile. There's great eye contact,

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Speaker 3: like she wasn't on her phone the whole time. She's

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Speaker 3: actually listening and interacting.

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Speaker 2: And I'm assuming you're going in with zero expectations, since

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Speaker 2: you don't have much faith in the process. At this point,

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: Ready to just eat alone. And she showed up already

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Speaker 3: her past expectation.

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Speaker 1: I liked that mentality. If you go in thinking like

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Speaker 1: it's going to be terrible, then it's going to be

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Speaker 1: great no matter what. As long as they show up,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna start sitting down. And right now she's not

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Speaker 1: going to show up. Then she goes, oh, you're halfwaying

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Speaker 1: the meal. Best date ever? Oh my god, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm glad. I only ordered like one cocktail

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Speaker 3: before she got there.

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Speaker 2: What was it like when you first saw her?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, she had a beautiful smile,

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Speaker 3: really like focused on me on the date, which was

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Speaker 3: which was nice. And she loves horror movies like I do,

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Speaker 3: and like I expected us to be there for like

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Speaker 3: an hour, but we were there. We talked for over

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Speaker 3: four hours. At the restaurant.

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Speaker 2: What what at the restaurant the entire time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: The waiter was just so annoyed with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yea. Were you ordering more drinks in between that time?

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking from the waiters perspective.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple, but we had a good long talk.

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Speaker 3: I mean we ended up closing the restaurant down.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, I mean I could understand, just on that

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Speaker 2: experience alone, why you'd be so mystified why this woman

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, especially because we agreed on another date.

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Speaker 2: When you say you agreed on another date, did you

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Speaker 2: guys like set a day.

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Speaker 3: In a time or we made agree to go out afterwards?

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Speaker 3: We were going to meet at the same restaurant next week, Oh,

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Speaker 3: like the following week.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, I want to do the same one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the vibes are so good at that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we just had such a great time.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to keep the ball rolling.

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Speaker 1: That's gone and that could be your place someday, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is our our first two days. And they took

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Speaker 1: the chopper out of nom and then decided to fly

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Speaker 1: right back into it. Okay, how did your second tour go?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. She never showed up.

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Speaker 2: She did. Wait, wait on the second time, she didn't

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Speaker 3: She never showed up. I was there for over half

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Speaker 3: an hour. I texted her no response.

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Speaker 2: And had you guys texted in the week between, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see you? You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd had a couple of texts, you know, back

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem. I don't know the confirming of

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Speaker 2: You know, you always have to confirm plans at least

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Speaker 2: three times before they actually happened.

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Speaker 1: A little mystery.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not Look.

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Speaker 1: Are we on for tonight? Yeah? Are we? I guess

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Speaker 1: you'll have to show up and find out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know the magic rule was three, But

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Speaker 3: do we noted? I guess for for the future. But

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Speaker 3: she just wasn't there, And then she hasn't responded to

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Speaker 3: any of my calls or technic.

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Speaker 2: Dude, dude, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Now, you guys know why I want to get off

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Speaker 3: of these apps, because again we spent four hours balking

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Speaker 3: and and then a no show on the second date.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've never been stood up before.

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Speaker 2: Imagine, I've heard.

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Speaker 1: We're going to try and make a happier image come

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Speaker 1: out of all of this we got because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna call Diane for you and try

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Speaker 1: and get you your second date update, get you out

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Speaker 1: of nom once and for all, right right after this. No,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna drive this one home. God, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: it right after this second date update. Imagine four hours

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Speaker 1: of non stop laughter and sharing stories and dreams. Two desserts,

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Speaker 1: one spoon. That sounds lovely, Jeffrey, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: There was only one spoon. I'm sorry, I'd be out.

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Speaker 1: I'm just picturing in my mind the best date ever,

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Speaker 1: because that's what Thomas described to us earlier when he

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Speaker 1: three desserts, no spoon.

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Speaker 2: I think you usually do one dessert and two spoons.

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Speaker 1: You know, the more spoons, the worst it's going. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no spoon, hands behind the back of your lady in

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Speaker 1: the trap, and mudpie off of each other's fingers. That

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Speaker 1: is the best date night ever.

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Speaker 2: That visual will haunt me.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. All I do know is that

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Speaker 1: Thomas is about to give up on the dating apps

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Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out for him, and we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna let that happen.

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Speaker 2: Right, Brookes, that's right, we got you, Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Man. I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas, you haven't heard from her at all after

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Speaker 2: she stood you up.

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Speaker 3: Nothing, complete radio silence.

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Speaker 2: So are you? Are you mad going into this?

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Speaker 3: I mean a little bit, But to be honest, I'm more.

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Speaker 3: I'm just exhausted and I just kind of want to

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Speaker 3: know why it doesn't make sense to me? Is all?

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Speaker 2: Okay? All right, you're defeated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bring the energy down.

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Speaker 1: Like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm hopeful Like you said, that's right like one minute ago.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm hopeful for you too. We're gonna hold you up. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna reinflate you.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna prop you up and make this happen.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to hire Brooke to give a pep

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Speaker 1: talk to your company, makes you go to brook dot

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Speaker 1: com or sports team, got to lift let's plate stuff? Right?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 1: Hey is this Diane?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? This is her.

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Speaker 1: We got her. Okay, Diane, what's up? You're on the

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Speaker 1: radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: most people cheer when we say that, but that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, not one person has ever done that. Don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah god, you answered.

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Speaker 4: I'm like in the middle of something and you I

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, we're in the middle of something too. It's

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Speaker 1: called a second date update, and I think our things

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Speaker 1: probably more important. Okay, sorry, no, I think we have

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Speaker 1: and hasn't really been able to meet up a second time.

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Speaker 1: It's really bumming him out, and he just doesn't know why.

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Speaker 1: His name's Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, you know Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. We figured because you guys spent quite a

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Speaker 1: sounded like a really nice time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He told us that you really connected.

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Speaker 1: I mean, most people don't close down a restaurant when

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we had a date the other night, so

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Speaker 3: you admit it. HAA.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you had a good date. Then why

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Speaker 2: didn't you show up the second time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all confused, and Thomas is especially confused because

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Speaker 1: apparently you were supposed to meet up again the following

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Speaker 1: week at the same exact restaurant and you ghosted. You

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Speaker 1: didn't even show.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I did not ghost him.

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Speaker 2: What he was there and you were.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he showed up and he says he weren't there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I went to the restaurant. I got there early,

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Speaker 4: and I left before I got there, But I did

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Speaker 4: not ghost him.

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Speaker 1: You left before he got there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have a date at two different times.

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Speaker 3: The week.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was really looking forward to our gate

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Speaker 4: and I actually got there fifteen minutes early.

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Speaker 4: When I got there, you know, the host when I

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Speaker 4: got there, was paying really like a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of attention to me, like in a way that made

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Speaker 2: just it was like they were familiar with me. Well

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Speaker 2: you were you closed down the place the week before.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they know you.

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Speaker 2: About We heard you took the table for four hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, actually it was kind of the opposite. They put

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Speaker 2: Oh, why is this an issue?

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Speaker 1: Did you know somebody that sounds really nice?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, there were like rose petals all over the table.

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Speaker 4: My favorite drink. I told him I was a Gin

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what part of this is bad in

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Speaker 3: I Well, it just was.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot for a second date.

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Speaker 2: It's just a Gen and Tonic and a couple of

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: He was excited.

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Speaker 4: It's not an anniversary though, it's a second date. And

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Speaker 2: Girl, You need to set your sits higher if you

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on, let's just hear her out a little bit,

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Speaker 1: so that all those nice gestures made you feel uncomfortable,

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Speaker 4: Just couldn't figure out. It was just like what does

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Speaker 3: Like it just was so so much.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that awful that that's your first thought? Like that sucks?

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, like what if all he wanted was

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Speaker 4: Stuck with the I mean, that's great knowledge, but I

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Speaker 1: I could definitely see both sides of the argument, where

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Speaker 3: Just believe him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that part was a little rough. But the good

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Speaker 1: and that's by putting Thomas on the phone with you

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Speaker 1: to you. Oh no, don't think of this as another

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi. I thought I was being very like sweet

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Speaker 4: It is it is, you know, very sweet, I just

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Speaker 4: We haven't even discussed what we've wanted in our future

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Speaker 2: But like you didn't even stick around to even tell

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only reason I put him there in the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like, let's scare a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Remember she liked horror movies.

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Speaker 1: You told us that.

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Speaker 3: Something scary. I should have wrote, I'm watching you on the.

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Speaker 2: It's actually Rob Coms. It terrified her.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, just from from hearing from him, Diane,

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Speaker 1: I've just got lost in translation.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah, yeah, I guess I panicked and I just ran.

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Speaker 1: This conversation is going better, Thomas, Do you still want

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the quartet?

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Speaker 1: You know what, We're gonna skimp all of that and

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Speaker 1: just go right to the question, which is, Diane, would

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Speaker 1: you like to go out on another date with Thomas

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Speaker 1: that we would pay for? And before she answers, Thomas,

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Speaker 1: is there anything else that you just want to say

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Speaker 3: I don't appreciate being ghosted like that, but I did

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Speaker 3: enjoy our date and I would like to do another.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys really playing?

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Speaker 1: I didn't play anything.

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Speaker 3: That was just natural.

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Speaker 1: That was the universe puts a conversation.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Keep going, Thomas.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I would love to go on a second

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so sweet, Dan. What do

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I would love to go another date.

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Speaker 4: it's you know, that's a little different. I'm sorry I panish, Thomas.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Are you happy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the perfect ending, as you got your

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning. All right. I did not want

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Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't say it now that I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Thomas is going to finally quit the

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Speaker 2: Oh because he's going to be in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's given up on love, because he actually

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Speaker 1: I think the more they communicate, the better.

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Speaker 1: It dial back the communication in some areas up in

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Speaker 1: a few months, and Diane is actually happy about the

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Speaker 1: roses and the gin waiting at the Tajoh.

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Speaker 2: She's never getting that again for the rest of their relationships.

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Speaker 1: I just want them to be on the same page.

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Speaker 1: To come on and they're glowing and lapping over their

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Speaker 1: first pregnancy scare WHOA. That's my dream for them just

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Speaker 2: Time you have a different idea of fun, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: sounds good anyway.

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Speaker 1: We want to help you have fun in your dating life.

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Speaker 1: Email the show, we'll call that person who's not calling

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Speaker 1: you back, and you can always listen to any of

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