Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving Nick Great Episode three seventy two,
Speaker 1: and as always, this episode is brought to you by
Speaker 1: our friends at boost Mobile. So much to do today, Demons, Sorry,
Speaker 1: pale your your team. It's not sometimes in sports you'll
Speaker 1: you know, lose the battle but win the war. I
Speaker 1: fear the Ravens might have lost the battle and the
Speaker 1: war on Sunday. I fear they could be in real
Speaker 1: trouble moving forward. Now they have a division that's winnable,
Speaker 1: and I don't really believe in Aaron Rodgers, and so
Speaker 1: they have time to ready to steady the ship.
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs have our number.
Speaker 1: If the moment is this era of football, Yes, that
Speaker 1: is true, So we will get to that. We will
Speaker 1: also get to listen the Monday Night The Monday Night
Speaker 1: doubleheader was terrible. Those were not great games, and sadly
Speaker 1: the only real news from those games is a absolutely
Speaker 1: catastrophic injury to one of the greatest players of the
Speaker 1: era in Tyreek Kill. So we will get to that
Speaker 1: in a bit. Also, of course, a bizarre Cowboys Packers
Speaker 1: game where the offer did hit by the way, demand's
Speaker 1: demand hold on. Before we get to Chiefs, Ravens can
Speaker 1: I tell demon's a occasionally. I don't know. Do you
Speaker 1: like dream about a bet you want to make late?
Speaker 1: Or do you have a couple couple cocktails on a
Speaker 1: Saturday night and you're like, I want to get this
Speaker 1: bet in? So is this do I have about? Right?
Speaker 2: Just it just gets super late, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's what everybody's sleep. My brain is the
Speaker 2: most active. Mike, this all makes sense. I'm gonna lock
Speaker 2: it in. But obviously I'm in California.
Speaker 1: So Demand's in California. So he can't put these teasers
Speaker 1: in on his own. And while he has been great,
Speaker 1: up did your teaser hit this week?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Back to a cover by the Jets last night?
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, Well that's why listen, that's why you tease
Speaker 1: up those points. He has been great on following all
Speaker 1: teaser rules consistently for the show pick. However, he in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night Saturday night text me, can
Speaker 1: you put this in for me? My biggest wager of
Speaker 1: the season, and not only did he not follow any
Speaker 1: of the teaser rules, it's just an abomination of a bet.
Speaker 1: It's the Eagles from minus three and a half to
Speaker 1: plus four and a half, the Chiefs up to plus
Speaker 1: ten and a half playing against his team, and then
Speaker 1: the Pace Day resistance because he loves eight point teasers.
Speaker 1: The Packers, who are were a perfect teaser candidate that
Speaker 1: actually wouldn't have won a six point teaser. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: told that wouldn't have won. Oddly, teasing through the zero
Speaker 1: is the only reason this one, because it was a
Speaker 1: tie the Packers the plus one and a half. He
Speaker 1: put it in. By the way, I paid you this morning.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, but I paid
Speaker 1: you this morning. I wake up to that at seven
Speaker 1: am Sunday morning, that this guy wants the worst teaser ever,
Speaker 1: but it worked, So what he has he cash props
Speaker 1: to you. All right, let's get to straight. The voicemail
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Speaker 1: the show today, getting to NBA Media Day reactions. We
Speaker 1: are not going to do baseball playoffs today. We will
Speaker 1: do some of that on Thursday. And JJ Reddick evidently
Speaker 1: has ninety minute conversations with his friend Cha which chat GPT.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna judge it. I know a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know, have a lot of you know, are very productive.
Speaker 1: We get a lot of things done through AI and
Speaker 1: through talking with AI and working with AI. I have
Speaker 1: not fully embraced that technology as of yet. I'm sure
Speaker 1: at some point I will. Once upon a time, I
Speaker 1: used to be on the radio making fun of the
Speaker 1: concept of Twitter and how I would never be on Twitter,
Speaker 1: And you know now it's my only social media platform.
Speaker 1: So I recognize I'll get there one day. I'm just
Speaker 1: not there yet. Where I am, though, Demons is fully
Speaker 1: relaxed and comfortable and relieved about the Chiefs. Let's get
Speaker 1: right to the game of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we all saw what happened on Sunday. Your
Speaker 2: Chiefs crushed my Ravens. We were obviously riddled with injuries.
Speaker 2: Our quarterback went down very early into the third quarter,
Speaker 2: she said, after starting two.
Speaker 1: That is not hold on. Your quarterback did not go
Speaker 1: down early in the third. He went down at the
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter when when he tapped out
Speaker 1: when they were down seventeen.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, all right, you said your Chiefs had
Speaker 2: the chance to rewrite history after starting oh and two,
Speaker 2: after this game, do you think they did so? Well?
Speaker 1: Listen, they studied themselves and the ow and to start
Speaker 1: what they had to do was beat the Giants. That
Speaker 1: was an ugly game that obviously turned on the tackle
Speaker 1: that turned the tide. And then they had to go
Speaker 1: take care of business against the Ravens, and take care
Speaker 1: of business they did, and not shockingly, the moment the
Speaker 1: Chiefs had close to a competent receiving corps, the offense
Speaker 1: looked good again. And we don't have to do this
Speaker 1: full history in depth, but it is worth mentioning that
Speaker 1: the Chiefs traded away Tyreek Hill Mahomes snap in an offseason,
Speaker 1: changed the way he played based on the receivers they
Speaker 1: had one league MVP. The very next year, dealt with
Speaker 1: more drops than any quarterback literally in modern NFL history,
Speaker 1: figured it out by the playoffs, won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The next year, dealt with the most injured wide receiver
Speaker 1: and running back room in the NFL, got all the
Speaker 1: way to the Super Bowl. And the next year, which
Speaker 1: was this year, walked into the season with his number
Speaker 1: one receiver suspended for six games and his number two
Speaker 1: receiver knocked out of Game one three plays in. And
Speaker 1: it looked shaky for a bit. And I told you
Speaker 1: guys that I knew real like I guess insight that
Speaker 1: that Chargers Week one game plan. Xavier Worthy was the
Speaker 1: EPI center of it, and him being knocked out three
Speaker 1: plays in threw everything off. But this, the fatalism surrounding
Speaker 1: the Chiefs from almost everyone else in the media was
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be a scold, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to be more annoying than I naturally am,
Speaker 1: but it was embarrassing, and it was so fickle and
Speaker 1: so myopic, my opic, pardon me, as if they don't
Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame caliber decordinator, and the most talented quarterback to ever live,
Speaker 1: that they couldn't figure it out. And it was as
Speaker 1: if they were getting boat raced in these early games,
Speaker 1: or as if they were playing terrible teams and losing.
Speaker 1: Neither were true. Now I want to make this clear.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Chiefs are, you know, quote fully back.
Speaker 1: If back means being the highest scoring team in the league,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's who they're going to be. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs have solved all their issues. I
Speaker 1: still think the running back room leaves a lot to
Speaker 1: be desired, and their ability to get pressure on the
Speaker 1: opposing quarterback without sending a blitz at the moment leaves
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired. But you look, if you
Speaker 1: going into the Baltimore game, if you looked around the AFC,
Speaker 1: the only team that really you could say had no
Speaker 1: holes to poke at it was the Chargers going into
Speaker 1: Week four, but they already were dealing with some potentially
Speaker 1: mounting injuries that sadly, they dealt with more of during
Speaker 1: Week four in a game they had no business losing,
Speaker 1: but lost, And so the Bills were undefeated. But the
Speaker 1: Bills defense had looked shaky, and they they had and
Speaker 1: have played three consecutive games against just bottom feeders. The
Speaker 1: Ravens were given this huge benefit of the doubt despite
Speaker 1: having the same record as the Chiefs, and then every
Speaker 1: other team that had a good record, like the Steelers
Speaker 1: or the Jags, you had real reason to be concerned about.
Speaker 2: And so who's first, I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 2: this matters whose first slay to games. Who do you
Speaker 2: think has had the tougher schedule through the first four
Speaker 2: weeks between the Ravens and the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I think it's been almost identical. Okay, so like they
Speaker 1: played each other. So if we want to call that
Speaker 1: like I so call the Chiefs Ravens game, you know,
Speaker 1: a war so to speak. The Ravens played the Browns.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs played the Giants, which is, I think the
Speaker 1: Giants are better than the Browns, but the Browns have
Speaker 1: a better defense than you know what I mean. Call
Speaker 1: that a wash. And then the Ravens played the Bills.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs played the Eagles. The Ravens player, I guess
Speaker 1: we could do Bills, Chargers, Eagles, Lions, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I think the Bills are a little
Speaker 1: better than the Chargers, but I think the Eagles are
Speaker 1: a little better than the Lions. So to me, it's
Speaker 1: very very similar. Like as far as what the opening
Speaker 1: slate was, now you could argue the Chief Ravens game
Speaker 1: being in Kansas City, like the Ravens having to go
Speaker 1: on the road for that tilts it. But the other
Speaker 1: piece of it that was maddening to me and has
Speaker 1: been even more maddening in the after There have been
Speaker 1: two things that have happened in the aftermath of this
Speaker 1: game that really drive me crazy. And I had kind
Speaker 1: of a rough moment near the end of yesterday's show
Speaker 1: on TV with why yesterday I'll apologize to him when
Speaker 1: I see him today. It's not really the tone of
Speaker 1: our show. But I got I got angry when I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have the And I mean, I don't think he
Speaker 1: took it like terribly. Like I think he might be
Speaker 1: surprised when I apologize to him, but maybe not. But
Speaker 1: it Two things have happened that to me are so frustrating.
Speaker 1: The first one is I understand the Ravens during the
Speaker 1: game lost Rokwan Smith and late in the game lost
Speaker 1: Humphrey and once the game was over over over lost
Speaker 1: Nate Wiggins. But they went into the game missing four starters.
Speaker 1: Everyone and the defense already had been bad all year.
Speaker 1: Everyone knew that and picked them. That's fine, by the way,
Speaker 1: Like you can pick whoever you want. And I'm not
Speaker 1: acting like that game was a lot for the the
Speaker 1: way it played out. The Chiefs at full control, but
Speaker 1: you know, something goes differently. Maybe not, but to know
Speaker 1: the team has those injuries going in and then afterwards
Speaker 1: be like, well, of course Kansas City did that. Look
Speaker 1: at all the injuries on defense. It's just bullshit. It's
Speaker 1: that if your handicap going into the game was I
Speaker 1: think the Ravens at full strength are better, but they're
Speaker 1: not full strength. Therefore, I think the Chiefs will win.
Speaker 1: And then you see that game be like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I thought, so be it. But that wasn't anyone's handicap.
Speaker 1: The handicap was even with the Ravens defensive injuries, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense, with Patrick freaking Mahomes on it and Andy
Speaker 1: Reid calling the plays, is so broken that they're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to move the ball.
Speaker 2: I mean Vegas had them as underdogs as well, correct money, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, which it's so again, two and a half one
Speaker 1: underdogs at home to a one and two team that
Speaker 1: the two competent offenses that they had played moved the
Speaker 1: ball at will and so to then Monday morning quarterback
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, obviously this was gonna happen. That's
Speaker 1: not what you believed. That wasn't people's picks. That wasn't
Speaker 1: people's opinion. The conversation going into the game was who
Speaker 1: needed it more? Kansas City? Who do you trust more?
Speaker 1: Baltimore Good I watched Orlowski do the Ravens are built
Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs? What it's like, No, they're built
Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs In the Bengals. They're just they
Speaker 1: they're not built to beat the I think he said
Speaker 1: the Chargers in the line something I don't know. I
Speaker 1: it was consent, and the other piece of it was
Speaker 1: And this is my other level of frustrating, because while
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley did go out during this game, the Ravens
Speaker 1: offense is healthy, and it was that, well, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: aren't gonna be able to slow down a Ravens offense
Speaker 1: that no one's been able to slow down. They score
Speaker 1: thirty plus in every game, and that, of course is
Speaker 1: not what happened. And so that frustrated me. And the
Speaker 1: other thing that frustrated me had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: Brewer Wilds, but it had to do with me listening
Speaker 1: to Simmons Pod as I do every Monday morning, listening
Speaker 1: to Greg Rosenthal's NFL Daily Pod, as I do every day,
Speaker 1: listening to you know a lot of them, and watching
Speaker 1: the Monday morning shows and all of it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I could not believe that I was going
Speaker 1: going to once again have to be I guess, the
Speaker 1: bad guy in pointing out the obvious fact that this
Speaker 1: game turned on a totally predictable, yet inexplicable horrific Lamar
Speaker 1: pick and the Ravens were up seven to three with
Speaker 1: the ball on first down around midfield, and Lamar re
Speaker 1: pedaled backwards and then threw up a prayer for no
Speaker 1: reason whatsoever, a guy who has he and and again
Speaker 1: people can be mad at me, but here are the
Speaker 1: facts of it. And every year people get mad at me,
Speaker 1: And then every year we get another piece of evidence
Speaker 1: that I'm stone right about this. And then every year
Speaker 1: I have to listen to folks stick their fingers in
Speaker 1: the ears and be like, Nope, actually wrong. Lamar is
Speaker 1: the greatest passer of the football we've ever seen. His
Speaker 1: hires passer rating ever, never turns the ball over, and
Speaker 1: all the big game, playoffs, games against the chief stuff
Speaker 1: is just dumb random luck. In the last thirty games
Speaker 1: Lamar is played, he has multiple turnovers in three of them,
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game against Kansas City, the Divisional round
Speaker 1: against Buffalo, and Sunday against Kansas City. I guess that's
Speaker 1: a coincidence. In the last thirty games Lamar is played,
Speaker 1: he has thrown seven interceptions, which is remarkable that he's
Speaker 1: only thrown seven. He had like a fifty to four
Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio. You know, in this stretch you moved
Speaker 1: the playoffs. It was crazy. The interceptions are as follows
Speaker 1: four regular season interceptions prior to Sunday, three of which
Speaker 1: we played the video hit his receiver in the hands
Speaker 1: and then either got like bobbled or stolen, one of
Speaker 1: which Bateman just stopped running his route. But four passes
Speaker 1: that did not need to be picked, the only three
Speaker 1: in the last thirty games, the only three interceptions Lamar
Speaker 1: has thrown where it's like, what the hell was that
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game into triple coverage in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: against Kansas City Divisional round game, early against both against
Speaker 1: Buffalo and the one Sunday. He also in those three
Speaker 1: games had inexplicable fumbles out of nowhere. To pretend like
Speaker 1: that is coincidental when we once again saw Lamark throwing
Speaker 1: his helmet out of sorts, it's just dishonest. And I
Speaker 1: know Bill Pollion was mean in his commentary towards the
Speaker 1: guy eight years ago, and I know some of the
Speaker 1: worst actors in media, sports or otherwise tried to pigeonhole
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver in a pretty nakedly at
Speaker 1: times racist way. I get that, and I understand because
Speaker 1: of that there has been a almost protectionism and a
Speaker 1: want for folks to see him succeed at the highest level.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, But why do we have
Speaker 1: to pretend what is obviously true is not? Why do
Speaker 1: we have to pretend that this is a unique thing
Speaker 1: we haven't seen across sports? Our whole lives the all
Speaker 1: time great, legendary player who sadly gets tight in his
Speaker 1: biggest spots and plays his worst in his biggest moments.
Speaker 1: That's part of sports man. And nobody was going back
Speaker 1: and taking away Peyton Manning's MVPs and his records because
Speaker 1: he struggled massively in the biggest spots. But we weren't
Speaker 1: pretending it was coincidental either, talking about the Peyton Manning face,
Speaker 1: talked about how he got anxious, talked about how his
Speaker 1: brother was like the bizarro version of him, a holy meeting,
Speaker 1: theocre player for giant expanses of his career, who somehow,
Speaker 1: in the biggest spots played his absolute best, and for
Speaker 1: some reason with Lamar, we gotta pretend it's not happening.
Speaker 1: I gotta and listen, I don't know this guy but
Speaker 1: I think he does good work. I think he's a
Speaker 1: smart commentator. But I Deontay Lee at the ringer. I
Speaker 1: before the Lamar fumble, I tweeted, Lamar's basically gone two
Speaker 1: years without making that this was on the pick, without
Speaker 1: making that exact type of mistake except for in the
Speaker 1: twenty three AFC Championship game, of the twenty four Divisional
Speaker 1: round and just now against Kansas City probably a coincidence,
Speaker 1: and Deontay Lee quote tweets it right. Nobody can identify
Speaker 1: the intrinsic traits of a winner and loser like Nick Wright.
Speaker 1: He is the seer. It's like, no, bro, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, I'm not trying to act like
Speaker 1: I look in at guy's eyes and can determine whether
Speaker 1: he has the IT factor. I'm just trying to act
Speaker 1: like I've watched this guy's whole fucking career, and from
Speaker 1: day one, he has been a guy who, in the
Speaker 1: postseason or in these instances now when he sees Patrick
Speaker 1: across the field, plays his worst football. And we can
Speaker 1: act like it's a small sample, but he's played the
Speaker 1: Chiefs seven times. He's played I think ten playoff games,
Speaker 1: like it's not a small sample. And I my frustration
Speaker 1: is and again, so this is the other thing, demand say,
Speaker 1: And this is what I'll say before we keep it moving,
Speaker 1: and maybe demands you'll tell me this is unfair. I
Speaker 1: don't think if I'm a Ravens fan, I don't think.
Speaker 1: The thing that I came out of that game most
Speaker 1: disheartened about was the defense. And the reason for that
Speaker 1: is obviously, if the defense is this bad, they are
Speaker 1: drawing dead, you know what I mean. They can't have
Speaker 1: the worst defense in football. But what to me was
Speaker 1: so disheartening about it if you're a Ravens fan, is
Speaker 1: you're now gonna have in the back of your head,
Speaker 1: even if we get the defense fixed by when we
Speaker 1: get to these moments against Josh or Patrick, are we
Speaker 1: getting MVP Lamar Or are we getting throwing his head back,
Speaker 1: slamming the helmet, taking terrible sacks, throwing off his back
Speaker 1: foot lamar I That to me is the concern defense.
Speaker 2: Defense definitely has to get better. Think that will help
Speaker 2: a lot, obviously, but it's it's every single time you
Speaker 2: are realizing more and more that I think it's a
Speaker 2: mental thing. It's not like a physical he's pretty I
Speaker 2: don't want to say he I don't want to put
Speaker 2: it all on themar but seems pretty checked out from
Speaker 2: the start. I don't want to say checked out, like disinterested,
Speaker 2: but I mean there was a nice third and eleven
Speaker 2: that he picked up one when they were still up,
Speaker 2: and he still just kind of walked back to the
Speaker 2: huddle looked a little sad. He's, yeah, he's his emotions.
Speaker 2: He's just not up in spry like I see him
Speaker 2: in other games, and it's just it is a little disfunte.
Speaker 1: He tried to take it back, but he said a
Speaker 1: few years ago that Mahomes had been as kryptonite and
Speaker 1: he was asked like member, and it was like the
Speaker 1: how you know, excited do you get to play the
Speaker 1: Chiefs And he's like, I'm not excited at all, like
Speaker 1: and it was kind of charming almost, but then he
Speaker 1: tried to pull it back later He's like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't feel that way. It it's in his head and
Speaker 1: I don't think his team And this is what I
Speaker 1: want your take on. I don't think the play calling
Speaker 1: in these spots does him any favors by trying to
Speaker 1: put the whole game on him, you have Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2: Derrick, Yeah, exactly. We weren't using him as much as
Speaker 2: we should have in the game.
Speaker 1: And it was the same story in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: They didn't have Derrick Henry then, but they had a
Speaker 1: great running game. They wouldn't run the ball like it's
Speaker 1: it's like they it sometimes feels like they go into
Speaker 1: these games like trying to prove a point that Lamar
Speaker 1: can just do it Patrick, like just go get the
Speaker 1: get the win.
Speaker 2: And then even in a couple instances where he would
Speaker 2: have normally evaded, he just kind of I don't know,
Speaker 2: he just seemed like he almost took the sac. I
Speaker 2: see Lamar getting out of some of those situations that
Speaker 2: he got trapped in.
Speaker 1: But well, it's been two weeks in a row, where
Speaker 1: like they yeah, and so listen, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to kill him too much on some of those sacks
Speaker 1: because some of the greatest Lamar plays ever are plays
Speaker 1: it looks like he should have been sacked, somehow gets
Speaker 1: away and then makes a crazy throw. So to keep
Speaker 1: those available, sometimes you're just not gonna get away. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't good and I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's coincidental. Let's get to some of these follow ups here.
Speaker 2: Pal, So with Baltimore, do you think that Kansas City
Speaker 2: isn't a good spot right now, because obviously Baltimore is
Speaker 2: super down, So like, is Kansas City humming or is Baltimore,
Speaker 2: you know, just at a heavy disadvantage right now.
Speaker 1: So listen, I think that I don't think everything is
Speaker 1: you know, the sky is falling in Baltimore, because I
Speaker 1: do think that Lamar is going to instantly be back
Speaker 1: to being regular season Lamar. Like I expect Lamar against
Speaker 1: a great Texans defense to be excellent. I expect Lamar
Speaker 1: against the Rams to be excellent. Like I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not too worried about the hamstring. That was a weird
Speaker 1: one because he got no treatment and he's like the trainers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like he wrapped a that was a weird one.
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna play and I think he'll
Speaker 1: be good. But I think the defense, you know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna just have to outscore people and hope the defense
Speaker 1: gets healthy by the end of the year. And I
Speaker 1: don't think Kansas City is fully fixed, but I think
Speaker 1: Kansas City has now fully steadied themselves, and the Chargers
Speaker 1: did them a huge favorite by blowing that game to
Speaker 1: the Giants. And now it's like, you know, in short order,
Speaker 1: the Chargers could theoretically be or the Chiefs could be
Speaker 1: back in for plays.
Speaker 2: What else do we have, so chat Andy asks Nick.
Speaker 2: Nick worried that the chief success is seemingly tied to
Speaker 2: a skinny wire receiver's health Worthy. Yeah, I mean big
Speaker 2: focal point.
Speaker 1: It was huge. Now listen, Xavier was healthy all last
Speaker 1: year and took some big shots. Yes, but I am
Speaker 1: worried about that. I also think though, that once they
Speaker 1: get Rashie back, it's less tied just to Worthy. And
Speaker 1: in theory, once they get Rashie back, the Chiefs should
Speaker 1: have the best receiving core mahomes has had in four years.
Speaker 1: Rashi Worthy. Thornton's been Knight a nice addition, like it
Speaker 1: kind of pushes Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got like, I'm obviously a Ravens fan, but
Speaker 2: you guys weren't. You guys did look good in the game, and.
Speaker 1: It was fun and and the Chiefs are more fun
Speaker 1: when they play like that and Mahomes Listen, those Mahomes
Speaker 1: red zone touchdowns to Thornton and to Juju were sick.
Speaker 1: Those were starts that yes, he had to fire those
Speaker 1: in and I thought, I thought those were those were excellent.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's do one more Baltimore followup for him.
Speaker 2: Let's go on home with Derrick Henry. Like obviously he's
Speaker 2: had the track were going of fumbling this season, but
Speaker 2: his usage.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about the fumbles. I just don't know
Speaker 1: why they didn't give him the ball more. It's just
Speaker 1: so weird to me that they wouldn't give him the
Speaker 1: ball more. He had I think four carries for thirty
Speaker 1: one yards on the opening drive. Yeah, and so listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to do Harball hot seat, especially because
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. I still think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: the AFC North demanse. The Bengals are a mess. The
Speaker 1: Browns have the worst offense in the league outside of
Speaker 1: maybe Tennessee. And I don't I don't trust pitch yet
Speaker 1: now I thought they were gonna lose like I was
Speaker 1: wrong about Pittsburgh Sunday morning. If so, let me put
Speaker 1: it like this, I think right now ten wins still
Speaker 1: wins Baltimore the AFC North, and I obviously think they
Speaker 1: can get to ten wins, they would have to go
Speaker 1: nine and four the rest of the way, and I
Speaker 1: expect them to definitely be able to do that. Now,
Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh really gets rolling, maybe A'll adjust. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't panic about missing the playoffs on Baltimore. I just
Speaker 1: panic about what have I seen this year that makes
Speaker 1: me feel like I'm a real contender. And my answer
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Speaker 2: So you said on Thursday show that there was no
Speaker 2: way that Dallas is going to be green Bay, and
Speaker 2: I guess you were correct to a certain extent. That
Speaker 2: game ended forty forty in a tie and overtime. Mike
Speaker 2: had eight quarterback pressures and probably got to deck when
Speaker 2: it mattered the most. But you said the bigger story
Speaker 2: of the game here was green Bay's offense late. What
Speaker 2: did you see there?
Speaker 1: All right, So let me do with Micah first quickly,
Speaker 1: and then we'll do the Packers. Listen, I'm the Packers'
Speaker 1: defense had been a plus through three weeks, and then
Speaker 1: they were really bad on Sunday night. There's no you know,
Speaker 1: there's no getting around that. That's obvious. They were really
Speaker 1: bad Sunday night. I did think Micah's shoestring tackle on
Speaker 1: Dakh saved the Packers because Dak was gonna score a touchdown,
Speaker 1: held him to a field goal because of it. But
Speaker 1: that was a disappointing performance for the Packers. And on
Speaker 1: the mic afront, I I can't watch the I can't
Speaker 1: watch the Cowboys offense look the way it has looked
Speaker 1: through a month and not feel like, man, had they
Speaker 1: just gotten it worked out with Micah, they they'd be
Speaker 1: like a fringe contender. Dak is playing out of his mind, bro,
Speaker 1: like he's playing great and doing that against that defense
Speaker 1: without Ceedee Lamb Pickens having the game of his life
Speaker 1: was so impressive, and so it just feels so bitter
Speaker 1: sweet if you're a Cowboys fan, where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: if we had just gotten this worked out with Micah
Speaker 1: and our defense was just average, like we'd be a
Speaker 1: real team. I think right now they'd be three and
Speaker 1: one instead of one two and one, and they'd be
Speaker 1: a problem for teams and Joe valid game. I think
Speaker 1: it's so that the thing is, I think it's the opposite.
Speaker 1: I I know that, Yeah, I know, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people had that take because the Packers defense was bad,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys defense was just as bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so like I I know, this feels maybe
Speaker 3: a little unfair, but the better the Cowboys offense plays,
Speaker 3: the more I hate the trade because it's like, man,
Speaker 3: you had a real chance to contend.
Speaker 1: Now the end of the game is the concerning part.
Speaker 1: So I I want to give Matt Lafleur grace in
Speaker 1: this regard, he was terrified of Brandon Aubrey. What Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur was trying to avoid was the Packers kicking a
Speaker 1: field goal with thirty seconds left and then having to
Speaker 1: kick off to this mutant kicker, Brandon Aubrey, indoors where
Speaker 1: they could would potentially get to God, if they get
Speaker 1: to their own forty five yard line and it's a
Speaker 1: seventy two yard field goal, you'd feel like got a chance.
Speaker 1: And with the new kickoff rule, if you you know,
Speaker 1: kick a touch back, they started the thirty five like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys probably fought thought man, they could start fifteen
Speaker 1: yards from field goal range. So they were trying to
Speaker 1: make sure if they kicked a field goal, that if
Speaker 1: they kicked a field goal, that Green Bay was not
Speaker 1: going to have any time. I understand that, and you.
Speaker 2: Know that to get the kickoff to you to get start.
Speaker 1: To ignore that, ignore that, and so the the I
Speaker 1: understand Dan Matt Lafleur being cautious, I don't understand or
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it. First his total lack of trust
Speaker 1: in Jordan Love, who's playing a good game, to take
Speaker 1: any chances to just win the game with a touchdown.
Speaker 1: The way you remove Brandon Aubrey from the equation is
Speaker 1: you score a touchdown. Okay, you score a touchdown, the
Speaker 1: game's over. But it was kind of validated by the
Speaker 1: fact that Jordan Love almost butchered the end of that game.
Speaker 1: They're very lucky that the Cowboys timekeeper is ethical and
Speaker 1: what didn't just delay by a half second and let
Speaker 1: the clock run out. You would that was a very
Speaker 1: nice thing for a road timekeeper to do. But Jordan lucky.
Speaker 2: But that was what happened though, Like that was the
Speaker 2: amount of time that was I mean maybe I mean,
Speaker 2: like this seconds.
Speaker 1: When it hit the ground, Like it feels like if
Speaker 1: there were tenths of a second de Mon's that that
Speaker 1: thing would have been like point two. And if it's
Speaker 1: point two, like you could probably just be like, oh
Speaker 1: it's you know, but regardless, the the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is it's second down. The Packers have no timeouts,
Speaker 1: and Jordan Love, instead of throwing it away or like
Speaker 1: scrambling and throwing it away, checks it down. And now
Speaker 1: the clock inbounds, and now the clock's running. He has
Speaker 1: to know if I cannot get this snap off at
Speaker 1: with ten seconds left, I need to just spike the
Speaker 1: ball and will take the field goal. They almost got
Speaker 1: a procedural penalty, which would have been a ten second
Speaker 1: runoff game over. They everything happened late and they almost
Speaker 1: ran out of time. That for a guy who's not
Speaker 1: even close to a rookie, he's been in the league
Speaker 1: a long time at this point, that was a brutal
Speaker 1: and almost just killed like in the game, end of
Speaker 1: game sequence. That made me more concerned about the Packers'
Speaker 1: Super Bowl hopes than anything else was the fact that
Speaker 1: I still don't have full trust in Jordan Love. I
Speaker 1: just don't. And so that was I thought that was
Speaker 1: really shaky, and I thought Lafleur showed he didn't fully
Speaker 1: trust Jordan Love by not letting Love just try to
Speaker 1: go for the touchdown with the play calls. It seemed
Speaker 1: like it was very conservative out on the edges don't
Speaker 1: make a mistake and seemed And the other thing is
Speaker 1: I was surprised Green and they seemingly was okay with
Speaker 1: the tie when they're going to be in a dog
Speaker 1: fight for that division and for seeding and the win
Speaker 1: is going to be way more valuable for them. But
Speaker 1: so that's it, all right, what's follow up here?
Speaker 2: Would you would you change the ot rules overtime rules?
Speaker 2: And if you would, how would you change them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are like, oh, you shouldn't have ties or
Speaker 1: it make the period longer. I totally disagree with that.
Speaker 1: Football is a brutal, dangerous, violent sport. They do not
Speaker 1: need to be playing longer when it's the regular season.
Speaker 1: I would be totally fine with moving over, no removing overtime.
Speaker 1: The goal is to win in regulation, and if you
Speaker 1: don't win in regulation, it's a tie. Deal with them.
Speaker 1: I would be fine with that. And if you're not
Speaker 1: going to do that, I like sudden death, and I
Speaker 1: know people are you know, the first score wins, have
Speaker 1: it be over. People are like, oh, that's unfair. Then
Speaker 1: it comes down to a coin flip again. If you
Speaker 1: frame the conversation as I always have, which is the
Speaker 1: goal of the game is to win in sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: Once you fail at that goal, randomness and variance and
Speaker 1: bad luck comes into play. And so this idea that, oh, no,
Speaker 1: they should have kept that game going is absurd.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, and so or bring back the fifteen minute overtime.
Speaker 1: I don't like any of that. The goals to win
Speaker 1: in regulation, and if you don't win in regulation, it
Speaker 1: could be you know, it's subject to what people consider unfair.
Speaker 1: But I would be fine with getting rid of OT
Speaker 1: in the regular season entirely personally. And I think that
Speaker 1: also would lead to some very interesting late game decisions,
Speaker 1: Like if a team is down three late in the game,
Speaker 1: do they go for a field goal knowing, all right,
Speaker 1: the best we can do now is tire, or do
Speaker 1: they go for the touchdown? If the team is down
Speaker 1: seven and scores a touchdown super late, do they automatically
Speaker 1: go for two? I think that I think those things
Speaker 1: could be interesting. All right, let's go on to some
Speaker 1: other games.
Speaker 2: So the Eagles are still undefeated, but it has not
Speaker 2: looked very good. Hert said, zero second half passing yards.
Speaker 2: Sakwan can't get it going. AJ Brown is distraught. Even
Speaker 2: with all those injuries. We talked about how much of
Speaker 2: a disadvantage Tampa Bay was last week. They still came down.
Speaker 2: They were a Baker goal line interception away from making
Speaker 2: the game. What's going on over there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What's going on over there in Philly?
Speaker 1: So they just can't play a normal game. I give
Speaker 1: him a listen. They have an excellent team. And you
Speaker 1: know they last two weeks ago, they block a field
Speaker 1: goal to win a game. This week they get the
Speaker 1: game going with a blocked punt. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I in a block punt touchdown. It's really impressive.
Speaker 1: But two weeks ago, they had negative passing yards in
Speaker 1: the first half and then we're excellent in the second half.
Speaker 1: This week, they were excellent in the first half and
Speaker 1: then zero completions in the second half. And they just can't.
Speaker 1: And AJ Brown is tweeting, you know, passive aggressive scripture.
Speaker 1: He's not happy. It's it's now. They've had a brutal
Speaker 1: schedule and they're four and up. They've played the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Rams, the Bucks. So I'm not nagging
Speaker 1: the Eagles here. I do think that they could. I
Speaker 1: called them the Chiefs of last year last week, where
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're undefeated, but everybody's nitpicking you. I now
Speaker 1: would recommend the Eagles take a page out of the
Speaker 1: Chiefs of two years ago book. When if you remember
Speaker 1: when the Chiefs were the defending champs and they were
Speaker 1: having some struggles during the year, and I brushed it
Speaker 1: off with their practicing. I was like, they are working
Speaker 1: on things, so they are during the games, so they
Speaker 1: are malleable late in the year and can beat you
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways. And then I was proven
Speaker 1: exactly correct. I think that might be worthwhile for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: It might be worthwhile to use some of these games
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, let's have the purpose of this
Speaker 1: game for aj Brown to leave it happy. Let's draw
Speaker 1: some inbreaking over the middle routes where he never gets
Speaker 1: thrown the ball, and see if see what it looks like,
Speaker 1: see if Jalen can be more reliable as a pure
Speaker 1: drop back passer, Just so we have that club in
Speaker 1: our bag. It is because right now they are just
Speaker 1: playing weird games with weird vibes afterwards, because one of
Speaker 1: the very best players on their team is clearly unhappy and.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And the other piece of it is Saquan is not
Speaker 1: nearly as effect this year as he was last year.
Speaker 1: Now maybe that changes, but we're a quarter of the
Speaker 1: way through and he's three point one yards per carry.
Speaker 1: He's gone for sixty eighty eight, forty six and forty
Speaker 1: three in these games. He is seventy total receiving yards.
Speaker 1: And this is coming off one of the greatest years.
Speaker 1: Last year he averaged Himan's five point eight yards per carry.
Speaker 1: This year he's averaging barely half that at three point one.
Speaker 1: Like that is that's a real I don't want to
Speaker 1: say concern, but it's something to look at if you
Speaker 1: need to figure out, Okay, if he's not dominant, what
Speaker 1: are other ways we can beat you? And so listen, Philly,
Speaker 1: they're the defending champs. They've won twenty out of twenty
Speaker 1: one games, or nineteen out of twenty games. They've won
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different ways. I have a ton
Speaker 1: of respect for it, and I gotta give Sirianni credit, begrudgingly,
Speaker 1: but they're trying to get through twenty games here and right,
Speaker 1: and you can't have in two weeks like the two
Speaker 1: of the entire league, thirty two teams have played four games,
Speaker 1: so that's one hundred and twenty eight you know games,
Speaker 1: two halves a game, So there's been two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six halves of football played in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1: The two worst passing halves of the two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six where the first first half by Philadelphia two
Speaker 1: weeks ago and the second half by Philadelphia two days ago.
Speaker 1: That's weird. And I'm not even like banging on jail
Speaker 1: in here or anything. It's just weird. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they can ignore it just because they've
Speaker 1: been winning. All right, What else do we got?
Speaker 2: Baker was talking trash with down three touchdowns? Yeah, how
Speaker 2: many other quarterbacks in the league do you think you're
Speaker 2: doing it?
Speaker 1: Maybe just Baker? And I do understand some of the
Speaker 1: Eagle fans being frustrated, like do the taunting rules not
Speaker 1: apply to this guy? But that's just Baker. There's a
Speaker 1: little bit of like the Draymond effect of oh, he
Speaker 1: does this the entire game in all ways, so the
Speaker 1: refs get a little, you know, numb to it. But
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Speaker 1: let's get to one more game before we get to
Speaker 1: Tyreek and some of the quick hitters.
Speaker 2: So you're Jackson proved a three to one all while
Speaker 2: making Party look awful. Could things have gone any better
Speaker 2: for you in this game? You hater?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not a hater, but I mean Party came
Speaker 1: back from injury and had three turnovers. The Jacks are
Speaker 1: the Jacks. Aer is something to deal with and you
Speaker 1: know what the you know, that's the Monday night game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's the right ball, is what you want?
Speaker 2: Probably want to call that?
Speaker 1: Huh oh, yeah, oh nice, nice. I like that. I
Speaker 1: should have thought of that myself.
Speaker 2: What if wins, you'd be that'll.
Speaker 1: Be a bummer. If Jacksonville wins, you gotta take them
Speaker 1: real serious, because here's the deal. The Jags offense has
Speaker 1: not been that good. Like I can't be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I told you so about Trevor. Trevor's not been that good.
Speaker 1: He has five touchdowns, four picks, less than six yards
Speaker 1: per attempt to seventy five rating. That's not their story.
Speaker 1: Their story is last year. This is such a crazy
Speaker 1: stat that I want to make sure it's correct. I
Speaker 1: know it's correct, but I just want to double checks.
Speaker 1: It's their takeaways compared to last year. So I'm double
Speaker 1: checking this last year year the Jaguars. Yeah, it is correct.
Speaker 1: How many takeaways do you think the Jacksonville Jaguars had
Speaker 1: last season?
Speaker 2: I'll go three.
Speaker 1: Well, that's crazy, but it's played the game poorly. You
Speaker 1: played the game like you went so low. You went
Speaker 1: so low that it's no longer crazy what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I should have said this the second the second worst
Speaker 1: team in takeaways last year, where the Browns and the
Speaker 1: Patriots with twelve. The Jags had nine they had nine
Speaker 1: takeaways all season. This year they have thirteen. They have
Speaker 1: they have thirteen takeaways through four games. They had nine
Speaker 1: takeaways through seventeen last year. So that's been the story.
Speaker 1: The defense has been excellent. Liam Cohen's fired up, wanting
Speaker 1: to fight Bob Salah, Bob Slas threatening to end his
Speaker 1: effing life. Whole thing. The But the Jags, because the
Speaker 1: Texans have been such a mess. The Colts came back
Speaker 1: down to earth a bit. The Jags are legitimate.
Speaker 2: I mean came down to earth a little bit bit.
Speaker 2: That team is serious though.
Speaker 1: That was an impressive game, even in the loss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like if we were right now, you it's hard
Speaker 1: to make an AFC Top five and not really consider
Speaker 1: including the Jags. Uh and the Niners on the other hand,
Speaker 1: I just Perty's trying to do a little too much.
Speaker 1: And now they play Thursday night. Pierce all got added
Speaker 1: to the injury report, party went back on the injury report.
Speaker 1: I think the Niners could be in real, real trouble.
Speaker 1: All right, So I want to about Tyreek for a
Speaker 1: second here. First I want to say this, I think
Speaker 1: the Internet can be real shitty at times and the
Speaker 1: whole like, oh, Tyreek was so sick of playing with Tua.
Speaker 1: He's clapping and smiling, guys, because if you guys, because
Speaker 1: when he was carted off the field, he seemed like
Speaker 1: before it almost yep, guys, I do not think you
Speaker 1: should take anything away from how a person is reacting
Speaker 1: moments after they suffer a truly even by NFL standards,
Speaker 1: catastrophic injury. As far as what that the shock and
Speaker 1: the adrenaline and the emotion, what how what that does
Speaker 1: to your brain like that is I would imagine as
Speaker 1: close to being not sober, like the way being hammered
Speaker 1: can impact your brain. I would imagine that's similar. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I thought that was crummy, even by modern
Speaker 1: Internet standards. And listen, I'm not trying to defend across
Speaker 1: the board. You know, Tyreek the guy, But I thought
Speaker 1: that was unfair. Here's the other thing, man, That is
Speaker 1: the type of injury to Monse that he could be
Speaker 1: out for all of next year. That's as bad as
Speaker 1: it gets. The knee dislocation is not a knee cap dislocation.
Speaker 1: It is a true full knee dislocation with all the
Speaker 1: ligament terrors that go along with it. And I I
Speaker 1: don't know if he comes back then and the speed
Speaker 1: that's right, That's the thing, Like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that will do to his ability to be an impactful player.
Speaker 1: And so it does feel at least kind of appropriate
Speaker 1: to at least look at if this is it for
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill, which it might be. Tyreek Kill the football
Speaker 1: player is quite simply one of the greatest receivers any
Speaker 1: of us have ever seen. And that is not an overstatement.
Speaker 1: The only the only receivers. I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: do this off the top of my head, but I
Speaker 1: want to just pull up like all time receiving touchdowns,
Speaker 1: just uh uh, make sure I'm not forgetting anybody, uh
Speaker 1: you know obvious. I'm trying to think the only receivers that,
Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: I'd rather have than Tyreek Moss, Jerry Rice. Are you
Speaker 1: know what that's the list for me. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's the third greatest receiver ever, and in fact, he
Speaker 1: definitionally isn't you know, because it you know, didn't play
Speaker 1: long enough in all you know, all of that. But
Speaker 1: as far as guys that, hands down were better than him,
Speaker 1: the only guys that I can say were hands down
Speaker 1: better than Tyreek for me are Moss and Jerry Rice,
Speaker 1: now Megatron t O. Uh, those guys you can obviously
Speaker 1: make a very strong case were better than him. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with that case. I Tyreek
Speaker 1: was such a dynamic, indefensible weapon that I just if
Speaker 1: you want, if you believe he's one of the five
Speaker 1: greatest receivers of all time, I think that's a legitimate opinion.
Speaker 1: Didn't have one. If it is over for him, and
Speaker 1: again it's crazy we're talking about this, but you have
Speaker 1: it's on the board, it's over. Obviously, didn't have one
Speaker 1: of the five greatest careers of all time. Like my
Speaker 1: old co host, my pal Chris Carter had a better
Speaker 1: career than Tyrek. Marvin Harrison and Larry Fitzgerald had better
Speaker 1: careers than Tyreek. But as far as guys who I
Speaker 1: would rather have, I think it's Moss, Rice, Tio's tough
Speaker 1: te TiO was as great as TiO was, his peak
Speaker 1: was not Tyreek's peak. This guy is a five time
Speaker 1: first team All Pro and his receiving yards after his
Speaker 1: rookie year ago twelve hundred, fifteen hundred, eight hundred he
Speaker 1: was injured twelve hundred and twelve hundred and then leaves
Speaker 1: Kansas City and goes seventeen hundred eighteen hundred and in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he was I mean, he averaged averaged eighty
Speaker 1: yards per game in the postseason with seven postseason touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Eight postseason touchdowns. I Jones no seven postseason touchdowns? What's up?
Speaker 2: The Jones and the Chet says it's Tyreek a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer if he never comes.
Speaker 1: Back, Oh, first ballot. It's not even that's that's like,
Speaker 1: that's not debatable, uh. I mean, being a five time
Speaker 1: first team All Pro is bananas. Being a guy who
Speaker 1: is only one, two, three, four, eight time Pro bowler
Speaker 1: in what five times? This is his tenth year and
Speaker 1: so this year gets if it gets wiped out, he
Speaker 1: will have played nine years and was a first team
Speaker 1: All Pro five of them, and his average for his career,
Speaker 1: his average season was thirteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just one of the greatest players I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. So that's my I hope it's not over
Speaker 1: for him, but man, it is. It's certainly on the
Speaker 1: board that it's over for him. Crazy, So thinking about
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Speaker 1: these the other games quickly.
Speaker 2: Here h Seahawks defeat the Cardinals twenty three to twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those Thursday night listen, the Seahawks gotta be taken seriously.
Speaker 1: The defense playing really well. Mike McDonald's got that team
Speaker 1: going in the right direction, and Donald's been way better
Speaker 1: than I expected. Like I gotta be hand up and
Speaker 1: be like I might have been wrong about this. I
Speaker 1: killed the Seahawks for what I thought was getting worse
Speaker 1: at quarterback going from Geno to Donald. That has not
Speaker 1: been a downgrade at this point. It's been an upgrade
Speaker 1: right now, So credit words due Seahawks. Seahawks have to
Speaker 1: be taken seriously.
Speaker 2: Next Dublin games, Steelers defeat the Vikings twenty four to
Speaker 2: twenty one.
Speaker 1: Hand up on that one too. I did not think
Speaker 1: the Steelers be able to keep Rogers upright. Instead, he
Speaker 1: threw every pass within us well, and he just threw
Speaker 1: got rid of it so fast and he was super efficient.
Speaker 1: He was like eighteen of twenty two for two hundred yards,
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz was just awful. That was They almost
Speaker 1: found a way to blow it at the end, or
Speaker 1: at least have me closer than they should have. The Steelers,
Speaker 1: that's a great win for them.
Speaker 2: Next the Giants to feed the Charges twenty one to eighteen.
Speaker 2: Upset of the week.
Speaker 1: Huh, upset of the week. And Amarian Hampton had twelve
Speaker 1: carries for one hundred and thirty yards in a game
Speaker 1: that was close against a rookie quarterback when you couldn't
Speaker 1: block well for them to not let Hampton. They called
Speaker 1: forty five dropbacks and twelve runs. It was the Chargers did.
Speaker 1: It was crazy and Joe Alt got hurt in that game,
Speaker 1: which is really concerning for them. That was a brutal,
Speaker 1: brutal game for the Chargers.
Speaker 2: What do you want to say, would do you think
Speaker 2: they would have won that game with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: The Giants? No, Yeah, I think Dart. I think Dart
Speaker 1: was an upgrade for them, even though he didn't like
Speaker 1: play great, he was an upgrade for them and gave
Speaker 1: him an energy boost. And the obviously other stories. Sadly,
Speaker 1: is Malik Neighbors done for the year with an acl
Speaker 1: beck Odell Beckham said it was the Giants turf.
Speaker 2: Next Bill's to feed. The Saints thirty one to nineteen.
Speaker 1: Not an impressive game from Buffalo. The Saints, down five
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, throw a touchdown pass to take
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter lead. The pass gets overturned on review
Speaker 1: and they were the catch does and they were right.
Speaker 1: They end up kicking a field goal. Josh has a
Speaker 1: great scramble on third and five to basically ice the game.
Speaker 1: But that was a two point game in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and it could have been Saints' lead in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. The Bills oddly have not looked great the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. The Dolphins game was not that impressive,
Speaker 1: The Saints game was not impressive. Now, Luckily for them,
Speaker 1: they've gone Ravens and then Jets, Dolphins, Saints and so
Speaker 1: the schedules allowed for But that defense has to get better. Flatly,
Speaker 1: they score thirty every week. The defense has to get better.
Speaker 2: Next, Falcons to feed the Commanders thirty four to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Listen, not let's take away on the Commander's side, because
Speaker 1: no Jaden Daniels. But for the Falcons, it's a nice
Speaker 1: bounce back game by Penis and he needed it after
Speaker 1: that horrible, horrible loss thirty to nothing to the Panthers.
Speaker 1: That was a really nice bounce back game by Penix.
Speaker 2: Next, Texas defeed the Titans twenty six to zero. I
Speaker 2: took the Titans plus the points.
Speaker 1: We can't yeah, we can no longer Brian Callahan's can't
Speaker 1: bet under any circumstances. Now, it should be said, if
Speaker 1: you didn't watch this game, good for you. But also
Speaker 1: it was six nothing in the fourth quarter. The Texans
Speaker 1: offense was struggling mightily, and then in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: finally got clicking. Now, maybe that's a sign of things
Speaker 1: to come. Maybe it's the Titans were you know, kind
Speaker 1: of gave up. But that was an ugly game, and
Speaker 1: I gotta think Brian Callahan's days are numbered. At this point,
Speaker 1: that Titans team looks like far and away the worst
Speaker 1: team in the league again.
Speaker 2: Next, Patriots defeat the Panthers forty two to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Drake May's playing ball, you know they they The Patriots
Speaker 1: played well against Pittsburgh moving the ball, but they turned
Speaker 1: it over five times. They cleaned that up in this
Speaker 1: game and they annihilate the Panthers. And speaking of days
Speaker 1: being numbered, Bryce is in trouble, buddy. He had that
Speaker 1: nice little stretch at the end of last year, but
Speaker 1: Bryce has been brutal Patriots. Huge game for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Patriots Bills, and by the way, for the Patriots if
Speaker 1: they can somehow upset the Bills and get to three
Speaker 1: and two their next three games, demonsay Saints Titans, Browns,
Speaker 1: Saints Titan's Browns in a row. It's unbelievable. The Patriots
Speaker 1: have games left, Saints Titan's Browns, two games against the Jets,
Speaker 1: another game against the Dolphins, the Bengals, and the Giants.
Speaker 1: What a schedule for the New England It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Next, watch out Lines defeat the Browns. Thirty four to ten.
Speaker 1: Flaco's gotta be done. I mean that the defense can
Speaker 1: only do so much. Uh, they got it. This is
Speaker 1: going just according to plan for sure, actually, because Flacco's
Speaker 1: been awful. If you the idea being Flacco gets benched
Speaker 1: early enough that there's time for Gabriel to go in,
Speaker 1: and then he gets benched and then Shardor gets the
Speaker 1: end of the season. I think that's how this plays out.
Speaker 2: Next, Rams defeat the Colts twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 1: Listen, the story of this game is ad Mitchell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ad Mitchell making an unbelievable catch and run after and
Speaker 1: then just the ball slipping out of his hands when
Speaker 1: he wasn't setting it down but he was trying to
Speaker 1: extend it slips out of his hands, and then he
Speaker 1: also had a hold on a Jonathan Taylor touchdown or else.
Speaker 1: This is different. A great Matt Stafford game. Great Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford game, and two to two at well with the
Speaker 1: game winner. That's a great win for the Rams.
Speaker 2: Next Bears defeat the Raiders twenty four.
Speaker 1: Listen. Gino's been brutal. Ashton genty, though, looked like Ashton
Speaker 1: genty for the first time since Boise State got back
Speaker 1: to his little upright pre snap style and looked like
Speaker 1: his old self. The Bears feel like, all right, we
Speaker 1: got to two and two, we have the buye, everything's settled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great win. And then last night, the one game we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about, Broncos to beat the Bengals twenty eight
Speaker 1: to three. Ugly. The Bengals are in real, real trouble.
Speaker 1: Chase is frustrated and credit where's due. After a very
Speaker 1: shaky open to the game, Bo Nicks made a great
Speaker 1: throw right before halftime that essentially ended the game. Aikman
Speaker 1: and Buck had no interest in that game at all.
Speaker 1: And the Broncos get to two and two and steady themselves.
Speaker 1: And the question with the Bengals is are they gonna
Speaker 1: call about Kirk Cousins or Russell Wilson or are they
Speaker 1: gonna ride with Browning? And so we'll see. In the
Speaker 1: other Monday night game we talked about it, I guess
Speaker 1: a little bit of Tyrek injury. The Dolphins beat the
Speaker 1: Jets justin Fields had won sick play, but the Jets don't.
Speaker 2: Know how to hit it. Go razy bet on that
Speaker 2: game last night. I can't believe I'm bringing it up.
Speaker 2: But I had. I had the over three and a
Speaker 2: half on the punts and under on tous yardage, and
Speaker 2: then I had justin fields for a touchdown pass which
Speaker 2: he did not throw until the end of the game.
Speaker 2: And then the Dolphins couldn't pick up like fifteen yards
Speaker 2: ended up having a punt at the end to give
Speaker 2: it to the Jets there.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you it's a crazy bet that you would
Speaker 1: have won but didn't.
Speaker 2: No, I won it because the Miami couldn't pick up
Speaker 2: ten yards after they got the ball back on the
Speaker 2: last possession, and it was the last stat was over
Speaker 2: three and a half punts. Oh yeah, I had all
Speaker 2: around three and a half.
Speaker 1: It was on this This is a great example as
Speaker 1: to why NFL ratings are so high, because we got
Speaker 1: dufuses like my son betting over three and a half punts,
Speaker 1: so he's locked into one of the worst football games
Speaker 1: of the year. I mean, it's just it's just unbelievable.
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