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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mediamash, a

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Speaker 1: roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling takes

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Speaker 1: on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host,

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Speaker 1: Steve Dennis. Oh, it's Mediamash. It is Mediamash on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: And I am particularly excited this week number one because

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Speaker 1: Slater was all over me last week for being negative.

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Speaker 1: Because my only point of view is don't act like

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Speaker 1: you've arrived. And I can't be negative today. So you

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Speaker 1: may not have texted you during the game, you definitely did,

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Speaker 1: But I'm excited for a different reason. My name is

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Speaker 1: Steve Dennis. Jane Slater's with us on this Wednesday from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network. Rob Phillips them all Cowboys media is

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Speaker 1: here and hate when people say this, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for him. The great Clarence E. Hill Junior

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Speaker 1: from four or Star Telegram and explain the colors today,

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Speaker 1: So Mega Sci Fi Founders Days Anniversary for our great

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Speaker 1: fraternity one hundred and ten years old. There is no

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Speaker 1: one that loves their front more than Clarence Obody He's

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Speaker 1: a very connected guy. Yeah, very passionate about his fraternity.

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Speaker 1: I wish I love something as much as he loves

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Speaker 1: his fraternity. I can't think of anything that I love

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Speaker 1: that most. Oh, let's do the whole show on that. James,

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Speaker 1: you didn't think of anything you love? You got something

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Speaker 1: you love, Somebody you love somebody. Everybody needs somebody. All right.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited because after thirty nine years in this broadcasting business,

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Speaker 1: TV and radio, I have never been able to say

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Speaker 1: these words, can't wait. Can we start the show today

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Speaker 1: talking about out monkey? But I thought we were past

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Speaker 1: that one last week when last week he talked, he

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Speaker 1: introduced it Monday. That's Tom Pellicero, my colleague broke that

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Speaker 1: on NFL Now. And I gotta tell you when they

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Speaker 1: told me that was going to be a topic of discussion,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you why I'm excited about it, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it began with golfers, but I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure it did. Well, you knew it existed, Oh absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I played in a monkey but open many years. Of

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Speaker 1: course you did see because what you need from that product,

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Speaker 1: what you need for that product is out in the hot,

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Speaker 1: hot sun all day sweat going down your back and

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Speaker 1: a lot of sitting, so that means golf in the

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Speaker 1: golf cart. In one hundred and five Dallas, temper call

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Speaker 1: that swamp and I can't say the word exactly, but

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Speaker 1: this company, now you know, you're more classy companies. No,

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Speaker 1: no offense, monkey butt, but like Jack Black, they called

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Speaker 1: it lowered down. That's that's their powder. Can't she's baby powder,

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Speaker 1: thank you. That's what zeke us in training camp, baby

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Speaker 1: powder trunk Chris talk about hard they had baby powder.

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Speaker 1: What was that drop? Let's hear that again because he's

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Speaker 1: got an ass. Okay, McCarthy us. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: just learned that we can say that on air. I

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Speaker 1: did not think that I could use that ass. That

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Speaker 1: word has become very popular in broadcast, but apparently it

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Speaker 1: was people weren't not necessarily a fan of me. Just

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Speaker 1: direct quoting Michael Parsons is saying, we can't be left

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Speaker 1: with right. Oh you can't say that. What is the difference.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's not the actual exactly. It's all okay with me.

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Speaker 1: But McCarthy said it. I mean he it's motivations. I

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Speaker 1: could tell Jane didn't really want to talk about this

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Speaker 1: just you. I think you just referred to it his

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Speaker 1: motivational tax. Yeah, I don't know. It just makes you

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Speaker 1: feel and you guys know I don't. I'm not one

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, I think it's just the visual of a

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good here, we're good. Here for

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Speaker 1: you got saved as Mike McCarthy, I'm good, red ass. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were mad, they were so poed after how they

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Speaker 1: And it's no different than mouse traps or what else

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Speaker 1: excited about that. We've been using that phrase for twenty

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the next phrase, which was big last week.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the reason why monkey butts in

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Speaker 1: a small bottle bottle because it goes in your golf back.

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Speaker 1: We all have it in our golf back. But anyway, again,

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Speaker 1: now I'm getting another vision. I'm good he get the

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Speaker 1: visual good. UM blueprint blueprint was the big word last

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Speaker 1: to say, um thirty did nothing to Denver At one

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Speaker 1: point seven days later, forty three to three. That is

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Speaker 1: twenty nine points alone in the second quarter, by the half,

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Speaker 1: who thought that the forty niness will beat the rounds?

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Speaker 1: are not super Bowl worthy. Yeah, so, I mean they're

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Speaker 1: feeling what the Cowboys saying. But getting back but getting

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Speaker 1: back to the blueprint. I think that the blueprint he said,

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Speaker 1: when they're playing with different team. Clarence always does this

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Speaker 1: because he reads my mind. All those topics are coming

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Speaker 1: this twenty twenty one Cowboys team, and Slater always gets

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Speaker 1: whether other teams believe or not, they believe that they

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Speaker 1: thought more importantly to see the way that these guys

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Speaker 1: just imagine if the Cowboys hadn't had the wherewithal to

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Speaker 1: say we've got to move on from Tom Sula and

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Smith was wearing the green dot. Then you

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Speaker 1: and even Jerry said, you know, you have a vision

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Speaker 1: this just reinforces who they are, who they thought they was,

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Speaker 1: as you know, not legitimate, not a blueprint. It was

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Speaker 1: think that Atlanta's trash, they weren't trash. Yeah, they'd just

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Speaker 1: other them. You remember three years ago, Jason Garrets last

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've done it about four times since

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00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: we started this show. Clarence was right again last week

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Speaker 1: and I hate to point it out because we had

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Speaker 1: a discussion on Thursday on who has the advantage in

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Speaker 1: the big Dan Quinn versus Matt Ryan showdown, and I

453
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Speaker 1: pulled Machoda all over during the game. I think me, Macholda,

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Speaker 1: and Eatman all thought that that Matt Ryan would have

455
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Speaker 1: the advantage. Oh, I would have and he says, no,

456
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Speaker 1: Quinn's got the advantage now now it played out. I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: it was the worst game in Matt Ryan's career because

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Speaker 1: Quinn knows Matt Ryan well. I like, I say, I

459
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Speaker 1: guess Hunter seventeen yards passing his worst passer rating ever

460
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: and and you mentioned it he or you did. He

461
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: came in as the NFC Player of the Week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and fightfulness is a very powerful motivator. He just knows

463
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Speaker 1: my point as you got fired. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make their who doesn't want to make the person that

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Speaker 1: lets them get away day. I do think, yes, he

466
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: got fired, but he also yes, they got their ass

467
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Speaker 1: beat the week before. That also helped you know that

468
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Speaker 1: you know they were already chafing red ass because of

469
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Speaker 1: what happened with Denver. There was a lot of things

470
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Speaker 1: that worked into that. But I just do. I do

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Speaker 1: believe that he knows what Matt Rise likes in this

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Speaker 1: Like he was in the quarterback meeting how many meetings

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Speaker 1: hours about what he liked, and he talked about the

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Speaker 1: other day at least after the game about getting him

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Speaker 1: off his spot. He talked about that. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: not spend the whole segment on Clarence being right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's let's move past it. I've already given him the

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Speaker 1: props for Chris give him a but you know, the

479
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: set in our jaw comment from Dan Quinn. I loved

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Speaker 1: it was just setting our jaw to get back to

481
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Speaker 1: our style of play. He got the game ball for it.

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Speaker 1: He was very emotional and actually cute guys. Guys shouldn't

483
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Speaker 1: call other guys cute, but he was actually cute about

484
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Speaker 1: the game ball where they downplayed the whole showdown and

485
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: all that, and then it hit him when his teammates

486
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Speaker 1: and coaching staff gave him the game ball. I don't

487
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Speaker 1: think the game ball is enough because here's where my

488
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: mind is wandering. Well, I'll get to that in a minute,

489
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Speaker 1: but just how mind is wondering so much? He's like,

490
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: but it's just amazing after they get trucked by Denver,

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Speaker 1: that they come back with a defense and they just

492
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: lost Randy Gregory in practice. Three interceptions, two sacks, three

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Speaker 1: tigers for loss, five quarterback hits. Atlanta had two hundred

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Speaker 1: fourteen total yards, one for eleven on third down, over

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Speaker 1: two on fourth down, fourth and seven. Nice idea. That

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Speaker 1: was disrespecting the process by Arthur Smith, like I believe

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Speaker 1: McCarthy did against Denver. But anyway, can I just sefer

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Speaker 1: can dispute that real quick because I wrote about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have gone for it seventeen times. Denver's gone for

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Speaker 1: fifteen times this season. I mean disrespect or is this

501
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: just the way the league is? Yeah, it's what they do.

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00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: And and Arthur Smith also knew, and he felt he

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Speaker 1: was gonna be in a shoot up. He felt that

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Speaker 1: we can't stop them, and we didn't to score points,

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00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: we can't trade field goals. So that was his mindset

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00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: going in to be aggressive. I didn't say you disrespected Denver.

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00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: I said he disrespected the process. That the second one

508
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: get up three to nothing, and that three points meant nothing,

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Speaker 1: and the second one on the set down of deck

510
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: doesn't flubbed the ball. I was repiled to me that

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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts and Cordarrel Patterson weren't complete non factors in

512
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Speaker 1: that game. They were Yeah, Coppits look good after after

513
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: about a quarter? Yeah oh yeah, yeah Pitts on the

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00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: first possession. What are they gonna do with this monster?

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you, and we'll talk about this later.

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00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: The offense sets the tone for this team, and the

517
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: offense set the tone for the defense, and then they

518
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: got caught in the vortex. And that's what happens with

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Speaker 1: this team. But here's where my mind was wandering, and

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Speaker 1: I really want to hear you guys on this. I

521
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: think it's kind of obvious, but Dan Quinn has made

522
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: it so ridiculously obvious. How much coaching matters, how much

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Speaker 1: coaching matters. I mean, I'm looking at two players that

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00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: I have considered mediocre ever since they've been here, Anthony

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Speaker 1: Brown Jordan Lewis, and they played like pro bowlers against Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: And that's only one example. There has not been a

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Speaker 1: single defensive player that has come in this season off

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Speaker 1: the bench. Dorance Armstrong, Randy Gregory goes down watch him play.

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Speaker 1: Tristian Hill, who has been a non factor. He comes

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Speaker 1: in minimally, but he looked better than he ever looked

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Speaker 1: last year. And I have a story about Tristan Hill

532
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 1: real quick because our NFL Network life shot is right

533
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: there as the defensive line guys are going through their

534
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: warm up drills and aid and Dirty was done with

535
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: running them through their warm up and Tristan Hill goes

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Speaker 1: one more for me. And you know, the knock on

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Speaker 1: Tristan is that he's kind of been a little lazy

538
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: and he's been a little mentally soft. And here he

539
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: was saying, coach, I need one more. I thought that

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00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: was interesting. Pregame awesome. And you know when jay Ron Curse,

541
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: we've already talked about that his career in Minnesota. He's okay,

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00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: he comes series a monster. And the thought that I had, Clarence,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if you have these kind of

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Speaker 1: thoughts after all the years of all the players that

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00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: we've seen paraded through here, it made me wonder how

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00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: many players would have been so much better in their

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00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: time in Dallas if Dan Quinn was their coordinator. I mean,

548
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: it matters it And what we just talked about love

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00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: for the confidence the players have on this year's team

550
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: when it matters in the playoffs, I think Dan Quinn

551
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: or Kellen Moore is the factor that will make the difference.

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00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: And your thoughts and listen. And the problem here is

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00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: that we're not giving Mike McCarthy the credit for being

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Speaker 1: over it all, overseeing everything. You know, he's how he

555
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: sets the tone for his team, whether it's the motivational

556
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: things high gives and restaurant in the week. His ability

557
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: to let the coaches coach and let the coaches to

558
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: be creative and not get in the way. That's a

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00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: skill from the head coach. But yes, the coaching has

560
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: been excellent, and not just the coordinated but the position coaches.

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00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the n cred is great. He puts people

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00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: in the right direction, but it's those secondary coaches that

563
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: got those guy's playing. Georgia should have been the linebackers

564
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: coach last year. No, he's the linebackers coach. It's not

565
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: worked with the linebackers. He is done with the tightest. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean it. I mean the coaching has made a

567
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: huge difference, especially on a deep inside about it is

568
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: funny because I know, wasn't y'all's video or with somebody's

569
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: video of the sound for the game, and they did

570
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: the sound for the game yesterday, and and they're doing

571
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: dirty talk to his team and it got all the

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00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: italics before it actually did every week. Yeah, it's great.

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00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Alex Lilly shot out, he's the best. He got out

574
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: that must say, screaming every week everybody else the regular

575
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: work before I counter him on one point he made

576
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: rob you. I mean, I can't argue with it because

577
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, they needed dan Quinn last year.

578
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: They needed a guy that with his communication skills. That's

579
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: what everybody says about him. He's such a teacher and

580
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: they had virtual component to things this offseason two to

581
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: a certain extent, they didn't. It wasn't all on the field,

582
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: and as we're still going through this pandemic, and they were.

583
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: They've been so much more organized. Yes they had more

584
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: of a training camp, but that communication factor, his teaching skills,

585
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: the guys he's brought in you mentioned add and dirty

586
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned. Look, Joe Witt has been a huge factor

587
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: here in terms and guys really buy into what he

588
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: does in the secondary. They needed him last year. If

589
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: they had him last year, even with the restrictions, I

590
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: think this would have been a much different defense. Well,

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Speaker 1: and before you go, Jane, real quick, you know I'm

592
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: with ya McCarthy. I've been giving McCarthy credit all along,

593
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Speaker 1: and I believe he deserves a lot of it. But

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Speaker 1: when I go back to my two examples, the two

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Speaker 1: people that I've been on for five years, Anthony Brown

596
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: and Jordan Lewis, however long they've been here, one of

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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: you asked McCarthy about their games and he said, matter

598
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: of factly, they're more comfortable in the new scheme. So

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00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: that is a defensive coordinator that knows how to fit

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Speaker 1: every single player into his scheme and get the most

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00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: out of him. I mean literally, players last year tell

602
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: me that the coaches were trash like that's how they

603
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: felt about him. And remember it was only what is

604
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: before the Washington game, so I think we were four

605
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: or five. It was right after Dat got Hurts, so

606
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't too far into the season. But the writing

607
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: for me was on the wall. When you would talk

608
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: to Layton Vanderish and Randy Gregory and they volunteered their love,

609
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: specifically of Dan Quinn. That Keanu knew when I interviewed

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Speaker 1: him for our podcast early early on. He talked about

611
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's the guy they'll go bull and ring with you.

612
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: He'll have backward hat on and his air Jordan's And

613
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: when even these guys talk about how they have to

614
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: self scout and evaluate themselves or write things that they

615
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: like about the person next to them. I don't know

616
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: if you've ever done this exercise, but I was recently

617
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: at a wedding with my friends and we went around

618
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: the table and we said three things that we like

619
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Speaker 1: about the person next to us. I know it sounds

620
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: ridiculous and it's all self love whatever, but it builds

621
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: a love of team. It builds a love of your

622
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: friendships and being in the trenches, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: these guys really play for them. I don't know if

624
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: you guys have ever had bosses. I would run through

625
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: a wall for the bosses that I currently have now

626
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: at the NFL Network. If they said jump, I'd say

627
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: how high? And what do you need me to take

628
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: with me? That's how I feel like these players responding

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Speaker 1: I've had bosses in the past. If you'd ask me

630
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: about him, I'd be like, yeah, they're great, give me names.

631
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: I knew them all exactly. But my point is is

632
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: that to me, it's yes, it's schematically, I think they're

633
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: playing to the strength of these players, But it's them

634
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: investing in their players and trusting their players that really

635
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: stands out to me. That's coaching. He's got a ton

636
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: of credibility too. He's got guys that he's coached that

637
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: are going to the Hall of Fame one day. That

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Speaker 1: if anybody on this defense wants to call up and

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Speaker 1: ask about Dan Quinn, it's glowing, greedy, Jarrett Well, glowingly

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Speaker 1: his defense. And he got a head coaching job because

641
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Speaker 1: of his defense. And I mean, the guy is an

642
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Speaker 1: absolute difference maker and it's gonna be gone next But

643
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Speaker 1: if they win the Super Bowl, that'd be all right.

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Speaker 1: But McCarthy, I want to ask you, Jane, because you

645
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Speaker 1: just brought it up up trash. You said, well, it

646
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Speaker 1: wasn't It was very specifically defense McCarthy. When I ask

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Speaker 1: about Quinn, quote, not the same game plan every week,

648
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, was he talking about last year?

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00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: The guys were very and again it was you know,

650
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Speaker 1: when you're reporting, you have to sort of cushion because

651
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Speaker 1: you don't want the microscope to start focusing on one

652
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Who's the rat. It was very

653
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Speaker 1: specifically defense, but some of that was a frustration that

654
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Speaker 1: Mike was allowing that to happen. Now, Mike had a

655
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: lot on his plate last year when you consider all

656
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Speaker 1: the things that went wrong. But I do think that

657
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Mike has really endeared himself to the players this year,

658
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Speaker 1: and I've even said it on this show. I do

659
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Speaker 1: believe that Mike deserves a lot of credit for that

660
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Speaker 1: this year. I think I actually talked to someone about this,

661
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Speaker 1: and what stood out to them versus some other coaches

662
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: is other coaches will ask you what do you think

663
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Speaker 1: about something? In other words, they want you to validate

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Speaker 1: something that they did in practice or said, but if

665
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: you pushed back on them, that was a problem. It

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00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: sounds to me like Mike is very collaborative, according to

667
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Speaker 1: some people that I've taught to you, and so I

668
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: think that's very interesting. And where my mind was wandering too,

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Speaker 1: is how lucky young players like Digs and Parsons are. Now,

670
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: you're right, he could be gone after one year and

671
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: then not so lucky. But but I'm I'm thinking back

672
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Speaker 1: to Roy Williams, the safety who was a phenomenal player

673
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Speaker 1: as a young player, and then not so much. Somebody

674
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: forgot to help him along for Zimmer and can they

675
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Speaker 1: helped him? I mean that was on Roy. I can

676
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Speaker 1: name the others, but you know, but you're bringing up

677
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Speaker 1: the point that I made familiar on the show. I

678
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: kept thinking to myself how different Micah's trajectory might have

679
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Speaker 1: been if he had a coach that said, we drafted

680
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Speaker 1: you as a linebacker. That's where we're going to keep you.

681
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: Because remember when he first said to us he wanted

682
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Speaker 1: to play defensive end. We're like, what a lost of

683
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: time this guy played defensive end was in high school.

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Speaker 1: Dan was like, all right, let's try it out. And

685
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Speaker 1: he tried it out and it works so good that

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Speaker 1: they now have the versatility that has really helped this

687
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Speaker 1: team in the absence of certain players, and I think

688
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: that is big to me. Yeah, they're willing to make

689
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: adjustments like midstream Week two, you don't have Tank, you know,

690
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Speaker 1: move him, move him to end. Would the previous Rashim

691
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Speaker 1: have done that? I don't know. I know, desperation is

692
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: the mother of invention. They're allowed themselves to invent. They

693
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: would desperate. They needed a pass rush. He was the

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Speaker 1: best pass rush. Think about it last Okay, So in

695
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Speaker 1: making my argument Randy Gregory, they barely used him last year.

696
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Speaker 1: I understand they should have used him, and said they

697
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: kept going when you got credit crazy, you give the

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Speaker 1: coaches credit with thinking outside the box. But they were

699
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Speaker 1: They needed think outside of the back because they had

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Speaker 1: nobody else. They wouldn't have done it in past years.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sending them to give him credit, but it

702
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Speaker 1: was also a desperation. The other part two, you said

703
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Speaker 1: a different game plan every week. I think he's maybe

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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that he's dan Quinn has evolved.

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he he really did take a hard look

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00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: at himself after last season and said, I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: as good enough of a coach as I can be.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when he got hired, it was all

709
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: that it's gang Quinn system cover three well, and people

710
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: kept saying, Oh, it's so old, it'll be the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I thought Jory Epstein to promote her a little bit.

712
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Speaker 1: She did a USA Today article about some of that

713
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Speaker 1: dan Quinn's self scouting of even himself and his leadership

714
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: skills and the defense that he used to run. He

715
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: wanted to truly get better, and then he carried that

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Speaker 1: over to his players. I appreciate that. I remember when

717
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: he was in Atlanta and we were discussing him. We

718
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Speaker 1: were at the super Bowl when Quinn brought his team

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, and we were comparing him to

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and they both have that stay in the

721
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Speaker 1: moment mentality that was Garrett's thing for years, and Quinn

722
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: was doing everything in Atlanta just like Jason Garrett. And

723
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Speaker 1: I'm going, wow, did he get that from the Garrett playbook?

724
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Speaker 1: And we were discussing it, and he still has that

725
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Speaker 1: because he said it the other where your feet that

726
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: you're supposed to have. But he's not rigid. Rigid Rigidity

727
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Speaker 1: is what that's what was Y was rigid in it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this is not necessarily fair, but I'm

729
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: just saying this out loud. There is something that feels

730
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Speaker 1: just more relatable about Dan Quinn than a Jason Garrett.

731
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Speaker 1: And that may not necessarily be fair because there's a

732
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Speaker 1: lot of players that love Jason Garrett, but there's a

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Speaker 1: relatability across the board. It seems like with dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: Gart isn't where Jordan's That's what happens backwards hat. But

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00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: think about it. But if you think about it music,

736
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Speaker 1: but if you think about it, there's something. But there's

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Speaker 1: something about think about Dak Prescott versus Tony Romo. There

738
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Speaker 1: felt like there was more of a relatability with Dak

739
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: across the locker room than there Nestlary was. And again,

740
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Speaker 1: we all might struggle with relatability. I don't think I'm

741
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Speaker 1: the most relatable sometimes to certain people, but there's something

742
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Speaker 1: that's what makes to me a guy like Dan Quinn

743
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Speaker 1: and Dak special. If we're comparing to other people, they

744
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: just feel very relatable. I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to add this about Jason Garrett though, I

746
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: think that all of his players loved him as a

747
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: human being, agreed but always thinking part of it was

748
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: a little different, and that's why I believe and always

749
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: did that the last few years his message got a

750
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: little stale, But but he's a wonderful guy and all

751
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: of his players liked him as a guy well. And

752
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: I also feel like Mike McCarthy's gotten a little bit

753
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: more relatable to his guys, and maybe that's because he's

754
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: been able to be in the same room with him.

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00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: You know, he's always kind of I don't you guys

756
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: ever pick up on this in his pressers, it's like

757
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: he sort of says things like like passively, like it's

758
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: not passive aggressive, but it's kind of like like I've

759
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: got a sense of humor or I am a fun guy.

760
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Speaker 1: And it's like, but I feel like he has to

761
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Speaker 1: prove to you he has a fun guy. People don't

762
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: think it's we don't really see that. But my point

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Speaker 1: is I feel like maybe he's opened up to the

764
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: guys a little bit more. I know when I've had

765
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,320
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm like, that's my dude, Like I'm going

767
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768
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00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,080
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Speaker 1: There is still a rumor the town day Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: Who would make a bigger or which team would make

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Speaker 1: Rob First, Cowboys. You went on the road and Arrowhead,

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Speaker 1: They go on the road, win this game. I don't

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850
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: that into that realm. But they haven't gotten there yet.

851
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: They don't have they don't have the resume yet. That's

852
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: that's the difference, right Clarence. Oh, it's a huge statement

853
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. You know this this to me and

854
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: we talked about the season. I said they haven't done

855
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: anything yet, and you say that they have to make

856
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: up to do that. Well, there's been a season of

857
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: checkpoints or of measuring sticks, and this this is another

858
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: one of those checkpoints and measuring stakes that you know,

859
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: uh as Dec is talking about just heat checks. You know,

860
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 1: are they really the team and we want to find

861
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: out last week they are really the team that we

862
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: think they think they can be this game, win this game.

863
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: And it goes with Dec and A. You're gonna talk

864
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: about that be Mahomes in Kansas City, super Bowl contender,

865
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: MVP favorite. Well, you're getting lucky because I'm looking at

866
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: the weather report and it's going to be a low

867
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: of twenty seven, high of fifty six, So you know

868
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: at three twenty five kick it'll be around the fifties.

869
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: This isn't going to be a snow Bowl from there

870
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: because the snow's coming in next week. I don't know

871
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: if you guys have seen like this monster weather report. Yeah,

872
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: it's landing next week. So the Cowboys look like they're

873
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: avoiding that one. But I agree with you guys, I

874
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: think if they can go win, not so much. I

875
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: think Kansas City is incredibly talented. Uh, not overlooking them

876
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: at all. They've definitely been on a roll here lately.

877
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: But I think you literally put Andy Reid in such

878
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: a cowgory of his own. But when you look at

879
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: I think it's Mike McCarthy's three and one against him

880
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: all time. The Cowboys are seven and four against the Chiefs.

881
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: But with all that being said, it's still Mahomes, It's

882
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: still Arrowhead Stadium. I just I tend to think that

883
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys going back to that mental mindset. On the

884
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: road Dak Prescott, we kept talking about the Patrick Mahomes

885
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: DAC money. A lot of people didn't think he deserved

886
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes type money. What a better way to put

887
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: that narrative to rest than he need a trophy? But

888
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, all right, bigger statement is

889
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: a perception. Let's go inside the locker rooms. Now, which

890
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: team would get a bigger mental lift inside the locker

891
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: room winning this game? Big set? I don't know if

892
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys, because did y'all listen to Zeke today?

893
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't at Zeke and he he was asked about

894
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: statement game and he kind of threw that back right,

895
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: laid downplayed. Although McCarthy agreed with his statement game though,

896
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean McCarthy agreed was measures to the game and

897
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: coaches generally don't do that. But he talked about, you know,

898
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: the battle between these two good teams that we know

899
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: where we want to go and we know where they

900
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: think they want to go. Now, Zeke downplayed it, but

901
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: it was just like last week. Dad Quinn said that

902
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: the letter game was just another game. That was a lie.

903
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons I thought, said it best. He says to

904
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: be the best, You've got him right, and so in

905
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: their minds, they all, like a lot of them, said

906
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: ignore the record. I mean even McCarthy alluded that I've

907
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: seen his numbers, Patrick Mahomes, But we're getting ready to

908
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: play the AFC player of the week that was Mahomes

909
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: Micah Parson saying we know the record, but we're getting

910
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: ready to play this Chiefs team that he considered a

911
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: top three team in the league right now. So that's

912
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: how they're that's interest preparing because I don't know why

913
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: he's the best. Brady's the best, and he's the current

914
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, and you're old Fogy though definitely the best.

915
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: I understand school. And if Pat Mahomes had an offensive line,

916
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: that game might have gone a lot different. Well maybe

917
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's get to it. My Homes is

918
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: actually now I will give you this, so't be going there.

919
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: That is the best hold we're talking about this year. See.

920
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: I want to say this because because I wrote it

921
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: and I like it. Uh, my Homes is still the

922
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: heavyweight champ of the NFL. Brady's not the heavyweight champ.

923
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: He is the goat, but he's not. My Homes is

924
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: the hand you just contacted yourself. But we're gonna have

925
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: two different things in Mahomes hasn't won a super Bowl

926
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: in a minute two years. Brady just wanted another one.

927
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: But is that your phone? I'm sorry I forgot to

928
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: put you would Ray back in the Campo years. It's

929
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: a bad cold zipper. He's just gonna answer in the

930
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: middle of the shift. Sorry, I've been trying to get

931
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: ahold of this guy for two weeks. Dal that was due.

932
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: He's taking a TC your job. No, oh, well, they're

933
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: they're looking at other options right now they should. All right,

934
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: I'll just throw the question out. How much does Dak

935
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: close the gap against if he's the heavyweight champion of

936
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: the NFL. Look at his numbers, Look at the way

937
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: he's played coming back from his injury. Look at the

938
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: way he's played with the ankle, with the shoulder, the

939
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: way these guys play for him, the way that he's

940
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: found so many different receivers that come. I just think

941
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: that the things that he's done, in other words, he's

942
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: getting guys to play with him and play up to

943
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: his level of play, and Mahomes isn't getting the same

944
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: from his group. Yeah, I'll understand real quick that two

945
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: years ago, if we just said Dak and Mahomes are

946
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: equal anybody in the country that watched, But have you

947
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: watched Mahomes played this year, and I'm just saying the

948
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: same thing, the same thing last year. There's no question

949
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: that again, Dak is making as much as Mahomes. He's

950
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: playing better than Mahomes. Kenny outduel him on Sunday, that's

951
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: the question. But he's playing. He's the number rating quarterback

952
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: in the league. There's no question about it. He's playing

953
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: better than any quarterback in the league. He's number one

954
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: against the blitz, He's number two in completion percentage, number

955
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: one in quarterback rating. Dak is doing it all this year.

956
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: The fact that we Clarence said he's an MVP candidate. Court. Yeah,

957
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: he's closing the gap, There's no doubt. And what's fun

958
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: about the season is there's two quarterbacks, young quarterbacks that

959
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: are closing the gap. Because Kyler Murray has the best

960
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: pass percentage completion percentage in the league, DAC's right behind him.

961
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: And as Mike McCarthy said this morning, these aren't this

962
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: isn't a dinkin dunk offense. Like what he's doing is

963
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: really that's really really impressive to be seventy. And the

964
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: other thing about and the other thing about Dak and

965
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: my homes and Dak has better weapons. Let's just say it.

966
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: Let's put it out there. He has a better offensive

967
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: line and better weapons in the backfield and receiver. They

968
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: have a better off There's a more balance, for sure,

969
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: more balances. I'm just saying. Then listen to two guys

970
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: to the targets. Have anybody as good as Tyreek or

971
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: l That's not true. More balanced and more explosive are

972
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And you can say, yes, those two individual

973
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: players are more explosive. I think I'm different, But which

974
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: is a varied Adding the running backs, the Cowboys offense

975
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: is better, more productive, and more explosive than the Chiefs. Off.

976
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: It's different than what you just said, though you said

977
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have better weapons. They do. If you're

978
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna list the weapons, you're gonna go Tyreek, Kelsey, and

979
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: then you're gonna go and then I'm go eight Cowboys.

980
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: So they have better weapons, but they have more weapons

981
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: based You're gonna name eight weapons over over the Chiefs,

982
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Zeke before we see Come on, okay, listen, Dalton, given

983
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: you Kelsey, giving you a springer for Kansas City. We're

984
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna get me spring up Wilson if you want him.

985
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup and the two running backs m

986
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: running back in line up anywhere and that. And I

987
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: will tell you this, by the way, McCarthy said something

988
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: very I will tell you this. Hold on, stealthy. I

989
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: will tell you this. The Cowboys game play caller has

990
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: been better than Chiefs this year. Absolutely, everything's working better.

991
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs are coming out of a funk. There's

992
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: no question. But come on, man, Kelsey and Tyreek, who

993
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: you know? Those those are? Who? They they're six and

994
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: show me who also. I also think that they when

995
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: you switch to the defensive in terms of pressure. They

996
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: literally have the second worst sacreate. They can't get their

997
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: last three games. They're giving him twelve points a game.

998
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Rogers about their defense. I can't totally

999
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: that his quarterback is better than the Wow go ahead, Rob,

1000
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't I lost my train of thought. No, I

1001
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: think I take a little bit of disagreement with you

1002
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: on the explosive part because like defining like the Cowboys again,

1003
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: they've got explosive players. Tyreek Hill is a little different

1004
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: than anybody in the league. Like that is somebody you

1005
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: have to absolutely account for. He's I mean, it's speed,

1006
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: like he's a freak. It's it's been like we've never

1007
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: seen in the NFL. But top to bottom, I'm not

1008
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: going to argue with you, the Cowboys can be different.

1009
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: We're talking about talked about the Tampa Bay Bucks their weapons,

1010
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys did a pretty good job of neutralizing

1011
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: all of Tom Brady's weapons. And Tom Brady as a quarterback.

1012
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: You could argue the Cowboys he beat themselves on that game. No,

1013
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm just looking and I love Tyreek Hill has a

1014
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: great name and all heels can run fast. I could

1015
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: run fast back in the day. Just tell you, I

1016
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: could pick him up and put him down. I'm just

1017
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: looking at my mad Tyreek Hill and facts based show Clarence.

1018
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the NFL leading receptions and his

1019
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: average per catch is leven point four. Is this Yeah,

1020
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: But I think there's no doubt about that's. I think

1021
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: that's in I talk about explosiveness. I'm just saying, look

1022
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: at the production. What do we see it on paper?

1023
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: Did you watch? What do you see it on paper? Uh?

1024
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 1: City Lamb fifteen point four. He's still explosive, is my point.

1025
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: But I didn't say where we agree point three Perquet.

1026
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: Where we agree is that there's less you can take

1027
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: away from the Cowboys. There's probably more you can take away,

1028
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: and it makes it harder on Tyreek and I probably

1029
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: productive Cowboys football team. Shield does not soundproof. The Cowboys

1030
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: football team is more explosive. They have more explosive players.

1031
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I agreed with you. I'm just saying you've got to

1032
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: watch players. I think that's what's important they have. It's

1033
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: very hard to they don't have the same thing. All right,

1034
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: let me here's what I think, and let's get back

1035
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: to DAK because I think there are now six teams

1036
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL that have the same formula, and it's

1037
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: a very simple formula. Their quarterback is it? Their quarterback

1038
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: is it? The defense rallies around that guy. They win

1039
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: and lose because of that guy. You've got Brady, You've

1040
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: got Aaron Rodgers. I'm gonna give Josh All in this

1041
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: category in Buffalo, You've got my Homes. You now have

1042
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: two CLU guys, Murray and Dak, And to me, one

1043
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: of those is going to win a Super Bowl this

1044
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: year this season, six of them. The rest of the

1045
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: league is so far behind these six teams, and I

1046
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: think it is a tremendous situation the Cowboys are now

1047
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: in and Dak deserves all the credit and back to

1048
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: you with the contractum for him to stand up for

1049
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: himself and want the kind of money that Mahomes. Mahomes

1050
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: gave Kansas City a friendly deal, didn't Dak did not

1051
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: give the Cowboys a friendly deal. I gotta tell you,

1052
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: his stomach was so much better than mine, because when

1053
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: I went through my own contract negotiations, you do get

1054
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: worried that you're replaceable. And I kept hearing from inside

1055
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: they just literally did not feel like Dak deserved Patrick

1056
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: mahomes money and then they end up getting it done.

1057
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: But I love that he played chicken with that, and

1058
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: we want to make it about the money. But how

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00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: different would this season of minute they had not How

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00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: would that have affected his Clarence. We don't want to

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: do he don't deserve money. Nobody's telling you I ever

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: thought Clarence. I never told you. I thought the Cowboys fault.

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00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: They could have got him with thirty millions. They they

1064
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: rolled the wrong die with not that day. But hold

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I did a Dak would not give a lesson. That's

1066
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: a diving on and that's a wrong starting to get

1067
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: because but he's been having air too for two years.

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00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: About my point on that, My point was I loved

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00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: his belief in himself and his resolve and to hold

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: up because if you've ever gone through contract negotiations, you

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00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: have to and then I can't even imagine having my

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: money and my value constantly discussed, marinated, thought about all

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Speaker 1: over TV. And so I respected the way that he

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: held out. And would this season have been I've not

1075
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: done that. Claire's jumping in and yelling I'm not. I

1076
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: will make this point. Dak demanded ready top the classes.

1077
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: Ready to go quarterback money. He demanded top two quarterback

1078
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: money to where the Cowboys may have had discussions of

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: letting him go, and could you imagine if that would

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00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: have happened. And I did talk to a few gms

1081
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: even when I was covering this, and they were like, well,

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00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: what has he done? Like, I don't know if he

1083
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: deserves that type money, so they can't was in the

1084
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: building with the reason that it wasn't. There literally was

1085
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: a thought around the league what has he done? And

1086
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: I think you can look at his body of work

1087
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: this season and say what he's done is show you that.

1088
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: Now that's why. And the game in the game within

1089
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: the game, if you talk to people to agent circles,

1090
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: is that Mahomes agent needed the money and he took

1091
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: a longer deal, but he needed to get the money. Now,

1092
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: no other agent would have taken that deal, have done

1093
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: that deal because you look at everybody else took shorter deals.

1094
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna have a chance to make more money in

1095
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: four years. Then my home is off the lifetime of

1096
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: his country. It's that business decision, yeah, yeah, whatever, not whatever.

1097
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: The stag took a bargain basement deal because it benefited

1098
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: lead most. Yeah, at that time, what was his total

1099
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: number it was? Was it close to one hundred million?

1100
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: It's a ten year deals one hundred and fifty, one

1101
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: hundred and six. It was more, it was a ten

1102
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: year deal million yeah, um, the years. The point of

1103
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: it is Mahomes made it very clear, my Homes, I

1104
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: don't care about his damn agent. No, my Homes made

1105
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: it very clear that he wanted to be in Kansas

1106
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: City too. It's true, Okay, Dak never made that clear

1107
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: about the Dallas, but his agent didn't make it. Well,

1108
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: agent did a very good job. This is an old discuss,

1109
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: had a very contentious relationship. Here are did a very

1110
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: very good job. Let's make it about the game Sunday.

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: When Mahomes me, I want his agent resenting money next

1112
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: to deals, it's remark he'll take my Everybody should be

1113
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: proud of Dak for what he did in that old discussion.

1114
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: Now because now, like you say, he's having a better

1115
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: year Mahomes year. Agree you were a better year than Mahomes. Yeah. Uh.

1116
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: You made the point that the reason why you like

1117
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: this team is because they've got that confidence, and that

1118
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: starts with Dak. What's happened to Mahomes this year for

1119
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: the first time in his entire career. Is he lost

1120
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 1: a little confidence? Things weren't working since the Super Bowl

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden his fancy little throws are

1122
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: off the march. I don't think he's lost confidence. He's

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01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: lost a little confidence. He's been in a funk and

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: I think snapped out of its Sunday night, Yeah, just

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01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: in time for the Cowboys. Just strolled into pointed if

1126
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: you watched the game, I was gonna say, I just

1127
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it wasn't Maggot with all that

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: he got it. I think the issue with Mahomes is

1129
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: he's he struggles with being patient that he's he gambles

1130
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: on a lot of throws to his detriment, and I'm

1131
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: not don't people do not use this as a headline,

1132
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: But remember how Romo would try and like force things

1133
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: and get creative to the detriment of his team. Remember

1134
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: it very well. That's what I feel as happened. But

1135
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: they feel like they can. But I would counter that

1136
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: with that's who they've been. He's been a yolo offense.

1137
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: They've been let me pull some a rabbit out of

1138
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: the head when they went to the super Bowl. That's

1139
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: what he did. It's not working. He's done the same right,

1140
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: he's done the same type thing. But also when your

1141
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: defense hasn't been doing a lot of favors. If you

1142
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: watch the difference in offenses. I watched the Cowboys offense

1143
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: has a rhythm to it when they're going with the

1144
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: Chief's offense is more playground, but the greatest rhythm the

1145
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: last two years. And now they're in a funk, and

1146
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: we know that there's some of the things that the

1147
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: nuanced than that. It's not just the homes as is.

1148
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Rob and I are talking about other things that're assting them. Defense,

1149
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, they didn't have Clyde Edwards Hilaire, who's a

1150
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: big difference maker for them. Williams is doing fine and

1151
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: Hilaire's supposed to be back this week. The other thing, too,

1152
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: is their defenses are playing. They showed the graphic on

1153
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football play. I'm different playing more zone, playing

1154
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: back and to Jane's point, forcing him to be more

1155
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: patient right and drive the length of the field, take

1156
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: away some of those some of those turnovers and you're

1157
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: not getting a man to man for him to get

1158
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: a break down and throw the stuff up that was working.

1159
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: Look like rhythm. It was ah yolo the same. He's

1160
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: also had a baby. He's probably not getting a lot

1161
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: of sleep. Stop. I'm serious. I can attest to that.

1162
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Look at Jordan, sweet, I know where he's coming from.

1163
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: He got married, he's got a baby on the way.

1164
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: How's his golf game been? That boy? Ain't that boy?

1165
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: Ain't getting up If you can't give as much attention

1166
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: to your day to day job. I'm not saying that

1167
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: kids affect your play, but I do think that it's

1168
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: another thing you have to think about. I don't think

1169
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: he's getting up chains and bottle Philip rivers. He's not

1170
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: getting up bottle. No, I'm with you, Hey, life happens.

1171
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: Life happens. I'm saying his bottle tonight though. I'm just

1172
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: telling well, you're a very present You're a very present father.

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01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: You are a great dad man, You're a You're a

1174
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: hard My daughter's coming home for Thanksgiving. Now you've made

1175
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: me just think about changing those day persh. He's gonna

1176
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: get emotional. His daughter makes him weepy. It's cute. She's

1177
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: coming home Monday. I just got a bolt of excitement today, excited,

1178
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: go right through my gut. Drinking with your daughter. Get

1179
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: that she's nineteen, she's not twenty one. State of Texas.

1180
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: You drinks. I thought you could. I was just in

1181
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: our household, not in my household. Your your daughter hates

1182
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: when you come visit her in college. It's college, man,

1183
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: Come on, funny college all right, we got to go.

1184
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: We didn't drink with my parents. We got to fake.

1185
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: Chris Beam as always, he's been here all day working

1186
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: his magic as the producer of every single podcast that

1187
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: come out of the s WBC studio. Thanks James Slater,

1188
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Rob Phillips. Thanks Clarence Hill Junior for letting me

1189
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: talk a little Cowboys with you this afternoon. Tomorrow we've

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01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: got Jerry Epstein who you mentioned, Earli and John Mashouda

1191
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: and Nick Eatman and it was fun. Tune in again

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01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow with four bye. This has been a production of

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.