1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calbisi joins me. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: First we look back at Sunday's preseason game. No, it 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: wasn't as clean or well executed as the opener, getting 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: number of players did flash. Then we'll look ahead of 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: the joint practices. What the Tennessee Titans this week? To me, 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the most important work of this month plus long stretch 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: ahead of the regular season. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: five eighty three, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down he goes for 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: a loss. J. J. Watt nailed it. Cardinals Cover two 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals dot com, 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half of five peas 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: in again, so for Harry Magic. WHOA, here's Craig Grielou. 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Before we get into the nuts and bolts, Sunday's preseason 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: lost to the Baltimore Ravens, and yes, Cardinals lost twenty 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: four seventeen. But what people want to know from your 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: perspective on the sideline, you were up close, you could 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: touch the alternate black helmets. How did they look to you, Paul, 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be an Aaron Andrews question 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: or something like that. No, let me tell you, they 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: looked really good with a combination of the new video board. 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: I actually found myself watching the video board and what 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: the helmets looked like via all those three point three 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: million pixels versus what they were right in front of me, 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: because I wanted to see how the lights hit the 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: red flex and what was the gradient screening or whatever 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: other aspect of the logo that they described. That's way 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: beyond my IQ level as to how exactly they engineered 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the brand new helmet. There's a lot more to it 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: than you realize. So I just wanted, okay, is that 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: thing gonna pop on the new video board? Visually it 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: was appealing, not only there in person, but also going 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: back early on Monday and watching some of the game replay. 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think not only do the fans 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: like it, more importantly, the players like it. What do 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: we always hear, Phil good, look good, play good? All 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: right here it is. It features irridescent chrome decals with 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: a gradient screen of the team's cardinal head logo, get 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: a right cow the you see my goodness. So there 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: you go. That's the exact specifics on the brand new helmet. 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: And I want to see those things with a white jersey, 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: am I. The only one I'm not sure the black 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: helmet with the black jersey with the white is that. 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to see the black helmet with either the 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: red jersey or the white jersey. I want to see 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: the contrast. It's too much black above the belt. It 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: is a little too much Atlanta falcons. I want to 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: see the black helmet with one of the other jerseys. 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: We'll see it two more times, the alternate black helmet, 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: but with what we saw on Sunday as far as 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: the black tops and white lettering, and then black tops 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: and that red lettering, the color rush, we'll see that 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: as well. So we might need to do some politicking 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: if we want to get the black helmets and the 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: white tops black pants. I mean we're gonna go white 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: white black helmets. I will say, the black jerseys with 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: the white lettering, the white numerals, man those pop as well. 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: That's a play by play, guys. Dream no excuses for 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: day Pass missing a number during that game because the 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: white numerals with the black jerseys. That just that is 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: just right there in your face, because at the end 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: of the day, it's all about the play by play 64 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: guys to make sure that they can bring you all 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: the information during the course of those four quarters. And 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: let's get into what we saw. It was a little sloppy, 67 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: are right, a lot slopp before the Cardinals compared to 68 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: what we saw against the Cincinnati Bengals the week prior. 69 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: But when that game got close twenty four seventeen with 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: just under seven minutes to play, what was the feeling 71 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: on the sideline Because there was some discussion during the 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: week kind of pushed to the side about oh, yeah, 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to break that twenty one game preseason 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: winning streak of the Ravens, but players after the ball 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: game did admits, yeah, it was in the back of 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: their mind and it would have been something to not 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: a big deal, but certainly a feather in their cap. 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised, honestly. The intensity was palpable 79 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: down there the end of the first half when they 80 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: couldn't connect on the touchdown pass Victor Bolden off his hands, 81 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: it goes right and I mean trace mcsloley came to 82 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the sideline, he was hot, he was really cheesed off, 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: and maybe that's what contributed to some of his inaccuracy. 84 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury said, Yeah, maybe he's trying a little too 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: hard against his former team, But there were enough guys 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: down there that either a had played with or against 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens in the past and had that winning streak 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: in mind. And Greg Dorsch afterwards, he said her repeatedly 89 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: in our interview, both on and off Mike just man, 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to win that game. You don't see that 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: sort of intensity when it comes to a preseason game, 92 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: so it was out there and maybe because of that, 93 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: maybe some guys were trying a little too hard. Between 94 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: the combination of the longest preseason win streak in modern 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: NFL history and trying to make the final fifty three, 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: some guys, I think we're pressing a little bit. It's 97 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: become a thing now to where it's a storyline whomever 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens play next week, next year, if the winning 99 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: street continues. But it is something when you get in 100 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: the moment you start I've found myself there in that 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, it's like, oh, you know, you enter the 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter down twenty four to three. Okay, it's twenty two, 103 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: and then one touchdown and then the interception and another 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: touchdown and you force a three and out. You've got 105 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: the ball with just over or just under four minutes 106 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: to go. You know you're not playing for a tie. 107 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: You're either going to score and go for two and win, 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: or score, go for two and lose because you don't convert. 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: I found myself, I wouldn't say on the edge of 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: my seat, but a little more interested of a fourth 111 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: quarter game number two of the preseason. Yeah, there's no doubt. 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: And look that first half Cliff Kingsbury described his quote 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: pretty clean. Now that was the interception. There were mistackles 114 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: in the first half, a lot of them. Second half 115 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: got definitely more sloppy, There's no doubt about that. And 116 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of things you come away 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: with you you're a little bit concerned as far as 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens team, not just the win streak. I think 119 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: the coaches like the fact that it's an ultra physical team. 120 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: The Ravens historically are a top five team in terms 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: of physicality coming straight at you. Just the smash mouth 122 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: sort of football that I think gives you a pretty 123 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: good gauge on certain players and their evaluation and a 124 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: good gauge as to whether you're ready to handle the 125 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: physicality of the regular seasons. So in terms of preseason opponents, 126 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: the Ravens I think are a pretty good team to play. Now. 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: The Cardinals might have paid the price with a few 128 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: injuries here and there, Jonathan Ward in particular, But I 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: think you come out of that and you realize, you 130 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: know what, our tackling in particular is not where we 131 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: thought it might have been based on Cardinals camp, and 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you do about that. I'm not 133 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: sure if you can go full tackling to the ground 134 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: in these two joint practices against the Titans coming up, 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: especially based on what Cliff Kingsbury told us at the 136 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: end of the interview, and I was in a place 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: to call him, Mike Vrabel and de Troy and maybe 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: set some ground rules as to what's coming in these 139 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: joint practices. But there's no doubt Cardinals needs some work 140 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to tackling, especially the two backup safeties 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: James Wiggins and Deontay Thompson. And Wiggins had issues at 142 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: Cincinnati with tackling as well. So you might have the 143 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: best starting pair of safeties in the NFL, but what 144 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: does your depth look like behind Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson? 145 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Is that a concern if you're Steve Kim in Cliff Kingsbury. 146 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: There was one particular play in the first half Thompson 147 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: tried to rip the ball out as opposed to bringing 148 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the ball carrier down, and it costs the Cardinals another 149 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: five seven yards. And it's a great discussion point because 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I see both sides when it comes to tackling. Cayvanibash 151 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and I discuss it on Cardinal Talk. As far as 152 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: all right, most teams are like the Cardinals. You do 153 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: not practice tackling to the ground and training camp, And 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I get why you want to make sure you're healthy 155 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: week one. Get on the flip side, how do you 156 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: get better at something if you don't practice it to 157 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: where we have something like Sunday Night where there are 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: a number of miss tackles and you go into the 159 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: regular season and you're not ready defensively. If you're Deontay Thompson, 160 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: I think the lesson learned is there? Okay? Yes, the 161 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: ball is the most valuable thing in the game, and 162 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to rip the ball out, I get it, 163 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: but you only do that if you have two or 164 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: three other tacklers around you. You got to make sure 165 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: the cavalry is right there before you're trying to rip 166 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the ball out. If you're in space and there's a 167 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: ball carrying, he's got two hands in the football, and 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: you're the only tackler, bring him down before you rip 169 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the ball out. So I think that's a lesson learned there. 170 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: What's intriguing about what you just said to me, agree 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: is the fact that the Kansas City Chiefs have been 172 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: playing the regulars. Did you see did you see Patrick 173 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes attempt nineteen passes in that game against Washington nineteen 174 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: over the weekend? He went twelve of nineteen passing for 175 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: a buck sixty two and he led two touchdown drives. 176 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: He had two touchdown passes. Patrick Mahomes. He didn't play 177 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: a three and out and throw a ble of bubble 178 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: screens and go for the sunflowers, seeds and a ball 179 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: cap on the sideline. He played. He played significant snaps. 180 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: So it really sets up this week one contrast, now, 181 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: we know what happened to the Cardinals last year. Everybody now, 182 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in the preseason a year ago went one 183 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: of four passing for two yards, and we all lost 184 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: our mind. There was a lot of noise out there. 185 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: And then what do you do against Tennessee on the road, 186 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: against the team they would eventually secure the number one 187 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: seed in the AFC. He threw four touchdown passes. He 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: had a passer rating to one twenty one. Okay, so 189 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: that's it should assuage everyone's fears, right, I say that, 190 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: dot dot dot Because you have a Kansas City team. 191 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Andy Reid's been playing his Pro Bowl caliber players throughout 192 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: that roster for the entirety these first two preseason games. 193 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: So what does that mean when we get to September 194 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: eleventh and the opener Chiefs Cardinals at State Farm Stadium, 195 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: you know exactly what the narrative is going to be. 196 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: Because you don't play your starters in the preseas and 197 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: you come out like the Cardinals did a year ago, 198 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: seven to zo ten and two. You know what, preseason 199 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I like the philosophy, keep it going this season. 200 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: You don't play the starters in the preseason, and if 201 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: they come out of the gates slow and you look 202 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: at the schedule, that is a very real possibility. Everyone 203 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: is going to be clamoring why didn't the starters get 204 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: more work in the preseason, whether in the preseason games, 205 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: the joint practices, and if the mistackling becomes more of 206 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: an issue, what does this coaching staff do to mitigate 207 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: that in the future. Here it is Patrick Mahomes let 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: at twelve play eighty seven yard drive capped by a 209 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: five yard touchdown pass, and then went back out there 210 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: and let another twelve play eighty two yard drive that 211 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: took over five minutes, capped by a seven yard touchdown 212 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: to the same player. Jody Fortson was on the business 213 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: end of those Patrick Mahomes touchdown tosses. So and in 214 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: the opener against Chicago he went six to seven passing 215 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: for sixty yards and he had a touchdown passes as well. 216 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: So you know, you can stamp Patrick Mahomes regular season 217 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: ready period. We just don't know. As for Kyler Murray 218 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and the rest of the Cardinals. You see Rodney Hudson, 219 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: for example, sitting on the bench in sweats. Okay, we 220 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen Rodney Hudson, the entiret at Cardinals camp. Have 221 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: we two practices? Two practices? Marcus Golden was down there, 222 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: obviously conspicuous by his presence because we haven't seen him 223 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: at Cards camp in a while, hasn't practiced since August. First, 224 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: if you're scoring at home, what exactly does that mean? 225 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Are you going to see him in Tennessee? Well, once again, 226 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: the track record of a year ago, a seven and 227 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: oh start, at ten and two start and arguably the 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: best offense in the NFL of the first half of 229 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: last season, seems to indicate that you know what Cliff 230 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Kingsbury knows what he's doing. The right answer is predicated 231 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: on what happens Week one in September, and then we 232 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: can go back. Oh yeah, it was the right decision hindsight. 233 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: What do they say twenty twenty Everyone is better when 234 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: you look back, as opposed to saying let's look forward 235 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: and try to make sure we're ready for that game. 236 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: And I'll throw this in there as well. I can't 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: tell you how many veterans on this team. When I've 238 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: asked him about the approach to camp, they have cited 239 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: the end of last season and that if the Cardinals 240 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: were healthy in December and January, it would have been 241 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: a much different outcome that The reason one of the 242 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: main reasons you saw the Rams and Bengals in Super 243 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty six is because those teams were primarily healthy 244 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: by the time the playoffs hit. So with that in mind, 245 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: what's sort of toll? For example, hard knocks is great, okay, 246 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: and the Lions are tackling to the ground and there 247 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: are receivers getting destroyed over the middle like circa the 248 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies and eighties, That's kind of training camp I 249 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: used to go to when I was a nineteen year 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: old intern in Rockland for the forty nine ers. That's 251 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: the kind of camp that the Niners used to run, 252 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: and they didn't necessarily run a really stringing camp back 253 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: in the day. So those that's a throwback thing Dan 254 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: Campbell is doing. But what is that going to mean 255 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: in November and December for the Detroit Lions. Because the 256 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: last guy to run a really military type camp was 257 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary years ago with the forty Niners, and they 258 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: had a good start to the season and the bottom 259 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: fell out and they had injuries and guys were worn 260 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: out and they were attacked, and later it came out 261 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,359 Speaker 1: that most of the players attributed that to the ridiculous 262 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: training camp he ran in August. Again, we just don't 263 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: know the answer to that question. But I like how 264 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: this has set up for the Cardinals because when you 265 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: have a veteran leaden team, especially on the offense, I 266 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: would much rather them be healthy in September and hopefully 267 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: December and January as opposed to seeing them on the 268 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: field right now. I'm okay, and I'm on record saying 269 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: I have no issues with how this coaching staff has 270 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: approached training camp. Now I'm curious on how they approached 271 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: the joint practices coming up with the Titans, and I'll 272 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: reference you brought it up the postgame conversation you had 273 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: with head coach Cliff Kingsbury, and Cliff mentioned, yeah, I 274 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: need to call Mike Vrabel on Monday and figure out, all, right, one, 275 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: who's healthy, how many bodies do we have, and how 276 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: do we avoid? More importantly, all the fighting that we 277 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: have seen across the league, and most of that comes 278 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: not in the individuals, but when you're lining up eleven 279 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: on eleven and you're trying to do some things, but 280 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: during the competitive nature of the game and the competitive 281 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: nature of players, they don't want to get beat. Do 282 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: you see how the Titans and Bucks the last joint practice, 283 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: how it ended with a mini brawl. That's the way 284 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: it was described as Jeffrey Simmons, the Pro Bowl d 285 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: lineman for the Titans and a bad dude. He had 286 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: another heavyweight opponent in Leonard Fournette, and I do mean 287 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: heavyweight based on how he reported to camp, those twos came. 288 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: Those two came to blows. They were exchanging punches at 289 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: the end, and they just called it at the very end. 290 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: So there were multiple fights through that Titans Bucks and 291 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: I think that's probably what Cliff Kingsbury has in mind. 292 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: In fact, if you're telling me the reason that Tom 293 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Brady has been a wall and absent that he didn't 294 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: want to participate in those joint practices, he already wasn't 295 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: going to play in the preseason games and he didn't 296 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: want to be a part of those point practices. I 297 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: believe you. To me, that's the best working, plausible theory 298 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: as to why TB twelve wasn't out there. So yeah, look, 299 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna be like in Tennessee. 300 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: We'll be there and we'll find out firsthand. I will 301 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: say this, If Jeffrey Simmons still has that edge to 302 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: him and there are some drills against oh, I don't know, 303 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: Big Mo, Marquis Hayes or Will Hernandez, there will be blood. 304 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: There will be a fight between two of the Cardinals 305 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: guards and at Jeffrey Simmons if he's coming in with 306 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: that sort of attitude. I think what you're more likely 307 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: to see is the one on one cornerbacks versus wide receivers, 308 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: edge rushers versus running backs, the pass protection O line, 309 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: D line, which is always fun. Maybe some seven on seven, 310 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna have any goal line situations. You're 311 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: not gonna have maybe any two minute situations with another team. 312 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Now from why I understand, yeah, joint practices on Wednesday 313 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: and Thursday, but there's also gonna be some separation as 314 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: well during the course of those two days, in which 315 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: the teams will be on opposite it ends or on 316 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: different fields and then come together for certain situations. I 317 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: asked Devon Kennard and our postgame interview on the Cardinals 318 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Radio Network after the Baltimore preseason game I just said, 319 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: all right, joint practices, you've been there and done that. 320 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: What do he tells some of the younger guys, He said, 321 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: go hard. You don't know exactly how hard the other 322 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: guy's gonna go. You don't want to look bad. You 323 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: better make sure you air on the side of one 324 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: hundred and ten percent, so you better bring it. So 325 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: we'll see if that indeed is the attitude. And you 326 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: know what, Davon Knart showed well obviously against Baltimore. He 327 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: had the numbers to prove it, end up with three 328 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: tackles at half sacket, at tackle for loss, a QB hit. 329 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: I think he's regular season ready. Dennis Gardeck, you know 330 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: you're talking with Kyle Van and Bosh. He's the expert 331 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: on edge rushers, and that would seem to verify what 332 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: we have seen throughout the month of August that Guardeck 333 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: has looked explosive. He looks like the two twenty Guardeck 334 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to the twenty twenty one Guardeck. But the 335 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: third round rookies my j Sanders, Cameron Thomas, and then 336 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: Jesse Luketa showed well at the beginning of camp. They've 337 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: been a little quiet in these preseason games. There's no 338 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: doubt about it. So I think the coaches are going 339 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to be looking at those rookie edge guys and seeing, 340 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: all right, what exactly do we have in them? Are 341 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: they going to have a role we thought maybe okay, 342 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: situational pass rushing role for Amy j. Sanders going into camp. 343 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Maybe not. Maybe they do have to show a little 344 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: bit more against veteran offensive lineman to gain the trust 345 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: of advanced Joseph Sanders, to me, has always appeared to 346 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit ahead of Cameron Thomas, and it's 347 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: just one thing where he can stand up on the 348 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: outside and just go straight ahead, go after that quarterback, 349 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: get into the backfield and wreck havoc. And Cameron Thomas 350 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: is I think, still trying to find his way, considering 351 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: how much he was in a three point stance and 352 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: then being asked to drop into coverage which he's not 353 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: used to. He might be swimming a little bit and 354 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: it might be a little while before we see any 355 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: of those edge rushers that were drafted make a significant impact. 356 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: I think it was the second last season at San 357 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: Diego State. He played a lot of nose tackle. Cameron 358 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Thomas think about that, And there was a play in 359 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: Devon Konard confirmed this for us on the air where 360 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas was a good twenty twenty five yards downfield 361 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: in the seam checking a tight end. So it's a 362 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: radical position change in a lot of ways for a 363 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas from just two years ago. Now my j 364 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Sanders will tell you he has the speed Cameron Thomas 365 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: to make that work. But I asked Devon Konard, what 366 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: are you always talking to Cameron Thomas about, and he said, 367 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: it's his positioning. It's if you're in the right place 368 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: at the right time. You already have one half the battle. 369 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: You don't have to be the fastest guy in the field. 370 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: You just got to be in the right spot. So 371 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: it's those instincts, it's that experience, and it might be 372 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: more of a learning curve for a Cameron Thomas than 373 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: perhaps initially anticipated. So for that reason, assuming Marcus Golden 374 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: is going to be back, I think your primary or 375 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: a rotation going into the Kansas City game is going 376 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: to be forty five Dennis Gardeck. It's gonna be Devonkard 377 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: and Marcus Golden and a little bit of those younger 378 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: guys worked in here and there, and then of course 379 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Victor d Mukage, who showed again with a tackle for 380 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: loss and doing a lot of intel on the sidelines. 381 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: After the Cincinnati game, Craig, I can tell you it's legit. 382 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I was told by multiple people the entire game film 383 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati was legit. He just didn't flash on a 384 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: couple of pass rush reps that he's very stout against 385 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: a run like a Devon Konard or a Marcus Golden. 386 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: And then he has changed his get off an explosion. 387 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: He has really improved from year one to year two. 388 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: So there's no doubt in my mind that I think 389 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the four edge guys right now would be a Marcus Golden, 390 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Devon Konard, Dennis Gardeck and Victor demokg. And I think 391 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: that's your rotation week one. You bring up being in 392 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: the right position, and it leads us to a conversation 393 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: about Zavin Collins on the field for sixteen snaps on Sunday, 394 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: a tackle tackle for lost thought. He flashed a little 395 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: bit more than we had seen against the Cincinnati Bengals. 396 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: But once again, and I know Ron wilfully pointed it 397 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: out on the broadcast and it's easy to see, but 398 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: being able to shed blocks, to engage an offensive lineman 399 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: or a running back and then disc engage and get 400 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: to the ball carrier. He is still having difficulty with that. Yes, 401 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: it's year two, but when you are a first round 402 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: draft pick, there are expectations that you have to meet, 403 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: and people are waiting for Zaven Collins to be that 404 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: inside linebacker worthy of a first round draft pick. And 405 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: we talked about that in the pregame radio show, and 406 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: I brought that up with Wolf and a couple of 407 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: people had told me that it was shedding blocks that 408 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: was the primary objective right now for a Zaban Collins. 409 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: That too often he's taken on these blockers with his 410 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: shoulder and then he's not able to get disengaged from 411 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the block. That's a win for the offensive linement. If 412 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: they're getting into your body, you have to be able 413 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 1: to stand that guy up and shut him one way 414 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: or the other and get to the ball carrier. And 415 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: that's just not happening with enough frequency with Zavan Collins. 416 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: So we'll see what these joint practices are all about. 417 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: There's no doubt that is a point of emphasis in 418 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: his schooling right now. I'll also say that when an 419 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: inside linebacker is instinctive, you see it. We saw Chandler Wootton. 420 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: You saw him shoot the gap immediately for a tackle 421 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: for loss on a key third down. He was into 422 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: that backfield, he read his keys, he went in untouched, 423 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: he found a crease, and he got to the ball 424 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: carrier for a loss. So it's those sort of things 425 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: where you know you don't have to overthink it, you 426 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: can see it with your own eyes. Is that inside 427 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: linebacker once again in the right spot at the right time? 428 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: And so is it a case of Zamon Collins overthinking 429 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: it at times and things are moving a little fast 430 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: for him. But it's those eyes and be able to 431 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: read and react. And Chandler Wootton not only the interception. 432 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: I thought he was excellent against the run. He really 433 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: he shot the gap a couple of times and you realize, Okay, 434 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: this guy has played this position before in the sec 435 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: in space. I like what I've seen from Zaven Collins 436 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: covering the running back. There was a great coverage on 437 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: the tight end screen, which was the tackle for loss. 438 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: It's when things get crowded, Zaven Collins gets lost and 439 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: is unable to You're an escape room and he can't escape. 440 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: He gets just bottled up and all of a sudden, 441 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: the ball is behind him. He needs to be able 442 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to do a better job of shedding those blockers and 443 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: making a tackle because he is not afraid to light 444 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: someone up. It's just getting to that point to whereas 445 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: that opportunity to make a tackle. You know, I think 446 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: initially we're thinking, all right, maybe he's a first and 447 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: second down inside linebacker and comes off the field in 448 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: a passing situation, you know, just in your for that reason, 449 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: maybe he's not wearing the green dob because he needs 450 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: someone who's on the field all the time, like a 451 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Jail and Thompson. Now it's almost the inverse to your point. 452 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: It's a really good point. In camp, he has looked 453 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: excellent in coverage downfield. He has the wheels, He has 454 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: that ability to cover tight ends in running backs out 455 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: of the backfield in space, which was something that was 456 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: a liability for Jordan Hicks, for example, the last couple 457 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: of years. One of the reasons I think they went 458 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: after Zavan Collins because teams would target Jordan Hicks at 459 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: the running back in the tight end and that would 460 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: be the first read on a third and long, and 461 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: more often than not they were successful. Zaman Collins has 462 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: the coverage thing down. The problem are rushing downs, first 463 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: and second down, and a lot of the play action 464 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: and he's hesitating and not quite deciphering what he's seen 465 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: and then once again not shedding those walkers. And you 466 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: saw some chunk runs. Two weeks in a row. You 467 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: saw chunk runs going right at number twenty five. The 468 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: spotlight certainly on Zaman Collins. That will be again this week. 469 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Titans on Saturday, four pm is the kickoff. 470 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Pregame coverage begins at twelve thirty on the Arizona Cardinals 471 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Radio network. We also talk about the spotlight with respects 472 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: to draft status. How about your boy Andy Isabelle's second 473 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: round draft pick, entering the final year of his contract, 474 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, he has certainly done more than 475 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: just flash in the preseason. Five catches Week one, four 476 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: catches Week two, and he has put himself in position, 477 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: whether it is with the Cardinals or Warren else, he 478 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: is going to be in the National Football League. And 479 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: I'll give him credit because he has worked his tail 480 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: off to get into this position. Yet it's a position 481 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: that just might not have any room for him with 482 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. See, we're on the same wavelength again here, agreed, 483 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: we're regular season ready. I can say that here and 484 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: cover two. The two of us, we got that chemistry 485 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: going right now and we're ready for this Week one 486 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: game against Kansas City. Because I said the same thing, 487 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: or Jim Almahundro after a couple of those first down 488 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: catches by Andy Isabella on National TV, he's made a 489 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: fifty three. It might not be the Cardinals. I think 490 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: he's made a fifty three, just like there are five 491 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: running backs on this roster who will be on a 492 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Week one roster, not all with the Cardinals. We'll get 493 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: the running back in a minute. But as for Andy Isabella, 494 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: the five drabs or fifty four yards, the thirty seven 495 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: yard PI, we've seen that repeatedly, the spot foul where 496 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: he's getting behind his secondary and a corner is desperate 497 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: and makes contact and then boom outcomes the flag. That's 498 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: a valuable thing obviously. But then his comments after words, 499 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: and you mentioned that, for him to say look the 500 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: media in the eye and say about his situation, Hey, 501 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: they stack the odds against me, but that doesn't phaze me. 502 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want. They ain't going to 503 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: break me. Quote end quote. And Andy Isabella and to say, 504 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, to have the awareness to say, you know what, 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: I've grown a lot and I've really matured and it 506 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: might be too late here, but I know in the 507 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: future dot dot dot that the lessons he's learned will 508 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: serve him well. Really interesting and Rihm to express that 509 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: sort of confidence in his game, because that was always 510 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: part of the problem. He had a couple of flash 511 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: games his rookie year, his second year, and we brought 512 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: him into the Big Red Rage and he said, you know, 513 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: I just that helps my confidence a lot, because there 514 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: were times where I struggle that do I belong in 515 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: the NFL am I really a second round pick. And 516 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: and I think, you know he was a guy who 517 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: lost his conference at times. Well, he's not that guy 518 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: right now. You've seen his play really take that next step. 519 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: He's even catching the ball better matching, he's not fighting 520 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: the ball nearly as much, catching with his hands, and 521 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: for him to make some of those contested catches like 522 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: he did against Baltimore, that definitely represents a next step 523 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: in his game. And you can tell on third and 524 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: long that this offense, specifically trace McSorley is looking for 525 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: number seventeen. On Sunday it was third and nine, third 526 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: and ten. You're looking for Andy Isabella to make a 527 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: big time catch, contested catch, or nothing else. Draw that 528 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: defensive past interference, which he's done now repeatedly here in 529 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: the preseason. So I like where Isabella's game is at. 530 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: But to the conversation, is it here with the Cardinals? 531 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: And I'll say this for right now, I do believe 532 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: he has a spot on this fifty three man roster 533 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: because you don't have DeAndre Hopkins those first six games. 534 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: That's true, You're right. See I always find myself saying, 535 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: all right, d hop Hollywood Brown, Aja Green, and Rondale Moore. 536 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: There's four, and then Antoine Wesley would be five. We 537 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: don't know what the deal is with a groin slash 538 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: hip injury. I don't think it's bad enough. He can 539 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: end up on POP. I mean, there's another scenario where 540 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella makes this team out of camp. Put it 541 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: this way, Antoine Wesley as quote unquote hurt. As we 542 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: keep being told he's out at practice, not running around, 543 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: but he's involved watching drills, tossing the football around. Maybe 544 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: they're just being overly cautious because right now they want 545 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: to avoid surgery. Not ruled out, but want to avoid surgery. 546 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: But to your point, yeah, he becomes number five. Greg Dortch, 547 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: because of his ability on special teams, becomes number six, 548 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: and Isabella is on the outside looking in. But you 549 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: subtract de Hoop. Now all of a sudden, Isabella squeezes 550 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: into those top six if you keep six wide receivers. 551 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: I'm buying that. I'm actually buying that You're right. I 552 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: fail to account for DeAndre Hopkins, and I would agree 553 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: with you. He is ahead of a Victor Bolden. Victor 554 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: bolding you can cut and most likely get to your 555 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: practice squad. I would think unless he has some sort 556 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: of breakout game at Tennessee or in those joint practices, 557 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: So I would agree you're right. You know what, you're right. 558 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: I think Andy Isabella number seventeen. Yeah, he's probably going 559 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: to end up on this and then you'll see. You'll 560 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: see if he can make a regular season impact over 561 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: the first six games, and then make your decision upon 562 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: the return of d hop at the time. So bottom 563 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: line is, Paul, there is still hope for I Andy, 564 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: that's right, and the marketing slogan that still has not 565 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: been put to bed because once again, you know he 566 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: was robbed of the I Candy role a year ago 567 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: because that was Rondale Moore. Well, now Rondell More, we're told, 568 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: is going to be more of a downfield guy. He 569 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: has the route tree, he's gonna be able to get 570 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: that separation downfield. He wants that sort of role. He 571 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: wants the targets beyond just the backfield or the horizontal 572 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage game. So who's gonna be that guy? Well, 573 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: obviously i Andy Isabella slides in nicely. Well done, by 574 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: the way, before we cut you loose, I know you 575 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: got a pack and get ready for the big trip 576 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: to Tennessee and basically fast for the next forty eight 577 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: seventy two hours before Ron Wilfley gets ahold of you 578 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: for some barbecue coming up later on this week. You 579 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: brought up the running back position. As far as five 580 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: legit starters or players that deserve a spot on an 581 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: NFL roster, I just don't think five is feasible to 582 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: be kept here with the Cardinals, no one really stood 583 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: out Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens. In fact, the biggest 584 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: news with the fact that Jonathan Ward heard his shoulder 585 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: not considered serious. But you look at the snap counts. 586 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: Daryl Williams did dress out, but was only on the 587 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: field for four snaps, got one carry. Do we read 588 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: anything into that he did not play in the preseason opener? 589 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, Benjamin played sparingly. It's fascinating because I don't 590 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: know which way this team is going to go. I 591 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: can argue for any number of scenarios. Yeah, and the 592 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: scenarios seemed to change on a daily basis, almost like 593 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: you need a real time update desk on the running 594 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: back room, right, and so let's reverse engineer this. I 595 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: agree with you. Only four going to be kept if 596 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: you're keeping three quarterbacks and you're maybe keeping four tight ends. Now, 597 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Max Williams, is he going on pop? What exactly is 598 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: a deal there? He's been out for full contact, full 599 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: pad practices eleven on eleven, so he's exceeded our expectations. 600 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: But if it's Zach Ertz, Trey McBride, Max Williams, are 601 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: you really cutting Steven Anderson. I don't think so, especially 602 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: since he kind of fills that fullback h back role. 603 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: So for that reason, you're certainly not keeping five running backs. 604 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: So it's James Connor is an automatic. Jonathan Ward has 605 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: solidified and cemented his spot after this Baltimore game, presuming 606 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: he's healthy. You saw the kickoff return, you saw the 607 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: catch in twenty six yard run east dynamic out of 608 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: the backfield, and I don't think they're cutting Keyanta Ingram. 609 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: I just don't. He's good enough on special teams. He 610 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: made a heck of a tackle on that interception to 611 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: run down the dB after trays ms Earley with badly 612 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: trying to tackle the defensive back after he threw the 613 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: second pick. And so I think Kyanta Ingrams on this 614 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: on this team. They like his size, they like the athleticism, 615 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: they like the upside on special team teams. So right now, 616 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: in my world, I think it's Darryl Williams against Eno Benjamin. 617 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: I think that's the competition because neither one of those 618 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: guys is an absolute on special teams. Neither one of 619 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: those guys, I should say, is indispensable on special teams 620 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: like a Jonathan Ward is, and I think Kanta Ingram 621 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: will be so for everything we've heard about Eno Benjamin, 622 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: for everything we thought about Daryl Williams, because Cliff Kingsbury 623 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: is referred to the two guys who are proven, the 624 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: two guys who experience, meaning James Connor and Darryl Williams, 625 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: who have the big game production and track record, and 626 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: the fact neither one played against Cincinnati seemed to indicate, Okay, 627 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: those two guys are being kept healthy and ready for 628 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: the regular season. I'm not so sure. Daryl Williams wasn't 629 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: a guy who was going to sit out the Baltimore game, 630 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: and at the last minute sort of head on a swivel, 631 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: looked around, put his finger to the win and said, 632 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: maybe I do need to dress and get out here 633 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: and play ball and show up. It's fascinating because at 634 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: one point it was James Conner, Darryl Williams one two 635 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: with Eno Benjamin your top three, no questions asked, and 636 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, as the gay days go 637 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: by and the weeks go by, and now all of 638 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, we're starting to rethink things and then figuring 639 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: out factor and special teams. Jeff Rogers his voice in 640 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: that room, who does he trust, who does he want? 641 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: How much does o Benjamin play? And special teams? What's 642 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: his impact? Is Daryl Williams an impact on special teams? 643 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: We know what he's capable of doing with the ball 644 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: in his hand, running and receiving. And in the financial 645 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: aspect of this, you signed Darryl Williams to a one year, 646 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: little less than two million dollar contract with less than 647 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand guaranteed. Now, all of a sudden, it 648 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: becomes what the coaching staff likes, what the front office 649 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: likes as far as the budget is concerned. That's good 650 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: because I can't tell you. I had a number of 651 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: people asked me yesterday what is the contract situation and 652 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: Darryl Williams, how much guaranteed money does he have? And 653 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: my response was I wasn't honestly sure and I failed 654 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: to look that up. So that's good information because if 655 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: you remember, he told the media that Kansas City did 656 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: not even make him an offer and he didn't sign 657 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: until later in the off season, so you can't figure 658 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: he had much leverage and he has less than a 659 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Is it feasible the Cardinals eat that and 660 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: they put him on the street come August thirtieth. Yeah, 661 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a little more likely, considering that it's 662 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: less than seven figures that they'd be on the hook for. 663 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know. Once again, I can go all 664 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: the way back if you really want it. We can 665 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: run every scenario here, and I'll end with this one. 666 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: I'll go all the way act at the beginning of 667 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: the off season, when it was conspicuous by its presence, 668 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: all the plaudits and props for Eno Benjamin, that he 669 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: was one all of a sudden out of the coach's doghouse, 670 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're like, wow, he's getting 671 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot of compliments. To the point, where is there 672 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: a method to the madness, a rhyme to the reason 673 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: right here? And could there have been in Wall Street 674 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: terms of pump and dump attempt to try and elevate 675 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: his value and get someone to bite on a trade. 676 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: If you're out there and you're trying to find a corner, 677 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: for example, in a trade, is Eno Benjamin the first 678 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: name that is offered up by Steve Kahne. The only 679 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: pushback I'll give on that, because that's something that you've 680 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: brought up repeatedly, is what we've heard publicly about Eno 681 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: Benjamin doesn't just come from the head coach. Justin Puke 682 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin had brought it up. Plus the head coach 683 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: privately has praised yes, So there is that as well 684 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: as we try to peel the curtains slowly back here 685 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: on Cardinals cover too. So again, this doesn't need to 686 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: be done now, but we are getting closer to when 687 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: those final roster cuts are being made. By the way, 688 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: if if I'm you know, Benjamin, those guys, I'm over 689 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: there and I'm begging Kyler Murray to call my number, 690 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: I need some more reps. I need to get on 691 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: film a little bit more, you know. In fact, that's 692 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: why if Kyler speaks this week, that's gonna ask him. 693 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Is anybody over there pestering you? Is anyone complaining and 694 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: griping about their reps and their touches and their targets 695 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: right now? Knowing that it it's better to flash, whether 696 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: it's for the Cardinals or someone else, to get on 697 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: another team's radar. So yeah, it's fascinating. It's gonna be 698 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: something to pay attention to this week, specifically in Tennessee again. 699 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: All the content on asy cardinals dot com Cardinals Underground 700 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: will originate live from Tennessee. Big Red Rage live from 701 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee as well. So Paul, you get some packing to do, 702 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: and again bib no bib but I don't know, but 703 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: make sure you undo that belt one notch. No family 704 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: platter for Wolf. That's gonna be the difference this year. 705 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: The last time we went there for joint practices, Wolf 706 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: really was putting the full in the former fullback and 707 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Adrian he had the misfortune of Adrian Wilson walking in 708 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: and Wolf was leaving the counter with your tray. That's 709 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: the way it is. It's sort of you place your order, 710 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: they give you your food. And it literally looked like 711 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: the family platter that Wolf was sitting down to gorge 712 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: himself on and he heard it from Adrian Wilson. So 713 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: it's a little more spelt ron Wolfley these days. So 714 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: hopefully it won't be such a spectacle when we go 715 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: into the barbecue joint. That's a visual I'm not gonna 716 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: be able to get out of my head, Walter. And 717 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: on that note, we will put a lid on this 718 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner 719 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 720 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: executive producer Jie Mama Hundro. Happy Birthday, Almo for Paul Calvici, 721 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: I'm Craig Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time 722 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two