WEBVTT - Dr. Gabrielle Lyon: #1 Blueprint for Building Muscle That Will Change How You Age! (This Will Transform Your Long-Term Health!)

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<v Speaker 1>Muscle is the organ of ondevity. Your survivability against all

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<v Speaker 1>cose mortality will be greater the more muscle mouse your health.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the only organ system that we have full

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<v Speaker 1>control over. We cannot say that for any other organ system.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the place you

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<v Speaker 2>come to become happier, healthier, and more healed. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>grateful because our guest today is going to help you

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<v Speaker 2>do just that. Today's guest is doctor Gabrielle Lyon, a

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<v Speaker 2>physician and a founder of the Institute for Muscle Centric Medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the author of Forever Strong and her new book,

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<v Speaker 2>The Forever Strong Playbook. Her groundbreaking work shows why muscle

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<v Speaker 2>isn't just about fitness. It's the key to longevity, vitality,

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<v Speaker 2>and preventing disease. If you want to sort this area

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<v Speaker 2>of your life out, this is the book to grab

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<v Speaker 2>a six week science based plan to sharpen your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>strengthen your body, and get healthy at any age. Go

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<v Speaker 2>and grab a copy of the book right now. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to On Purpose, doctor Gabrielle Lion. Gabrielle. It's great

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<v Speaker 2>to have you here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great to be here in.

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<v Speaker 2>The first few moments that you've walked in your In

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<v Speaker 2>the first few moments that you've walked in, your spirit

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<v Speaker 2>and just your energy is really captivating and it's really

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful to be around and some really excited for my

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<v Speaker 2>audience and community today to connect with you and be

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<v Speaker 2>introduced to your work.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I couldn't be happier. Awesome, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's dive in. I want to start off in

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<v Speaker 2>on purpose fashion by asking you what is the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of your work? What are you trying to achieve for people?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you hoping they get out of today by listening?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the world can be stronger and more resilient,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not going to be from one person. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a collective path forward and so together we can create

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<v Speaker 1>a cultural shift and it's available to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about with this book? What was your purpose

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<v Speaker 2>with this book? What were you hoping that people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get by following the six week science based plan?

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<v Speaker 2>In our conversation, Yeah, what's the output? What's the result

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<v Speaker 2>you want them to get?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a lot of information out there and it

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<v Speaker 1>can become very overwhelming. I wanted people to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up a book to show them exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, how to think, how to move, how to recover.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a playbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you just said three really important things that you said, eat, think,

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<v Speaker 2>and move. Where do we start?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I would argue we start with mind.

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<v Speaker 1>People will want to hear about the body. I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you choose because there's a bi directional relationship between both

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<v Speaker 1>muscle and your mind. You pull one to push the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start where you think we should start with

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts in our mind. Let's start there, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>What challenge do people have in their mind that you

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<v Speaker 2>hear most often, that you face most often when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to building muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that people have to feel worthy of

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<v Speaker 1>being healthy, and there's a lot of internal dialogue. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too old, i can't do this, I'm too busy, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are all distractions. The brain is an organ system,

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<v Speaker 1>and the brain is doing what it's supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is produce thoughts. Not all of those thoughts are relevant,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to become very skilled at discerning what

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<v Speaker 1>is a relevant thought versus not so that we can

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<v Speaker 1>take the next right action. And that takes discipline and then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, after that, you are free to choose and

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<v Speaker 1>be able to live how you want physically.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we start doing that? When those excuses feel

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<v Speaker 2>so strong, they feel so big, and they feel so real,

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<v Speaker 2>right that thought of I'm too old, I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>that fit. You know, no one in my family ever

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<v Speaker 2>worked out. I don't need to work out. I'm actually okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What can convince people to realize that no investing in

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<v Speaker 2>their health is the most investment they can make.

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<v Speaker 1>Well number one practice, And you have to prove it

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<v Speaker 1>to me that you're too old. I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>to start challenging our thoughts because oftentimes they're irrelevant. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I wrote the playbook, because whether you're having

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<v Speaker 1>those thoughts or not, you still have to take action.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might not be motivated, but you do have

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<v Speaker 1>to be committed. And people will say I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time for health and wellness, and I would say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have time for health and wellness, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to have time for sickness?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great I mean, that's such a big point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's incredible. How I mean, I was saying it

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<v Speaker 2>to you about myself. I met my wife. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been together for twelve years now, I'm married for nine.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's always been focused on health and fitness. Health

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<v Speaker 2>and wellness has been a big part of her life,

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<v Speaker 2>especially physically. She's a dietician and nutritionist. And for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I came from a world of mastering the mind and

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<v Speaker 2>mastering your thoughts, but not necessarily pushing the body. I

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<v Speaker 2>was athletic, I played sport, but I didn't really work out.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a fitness schedule. And what happened for

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<v Speaker 2>me was she said to me, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>sharing that with you offline. She said to me, she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Jay, you're so present, you're so alert, you're

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<v Speaker 2>so focused. Imagine how powerful you'd be if you were

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<v Speaker 2>to exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she is brilliant. She didn't say, Jay, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do this. She gave you the choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that's what people need to realize,

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<v Speaker 2>is that whatever level you're at, whether you're at a

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<v Speaker 2>pain point or whether you feel good, imagine how good

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<v Speaker 2>you could feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think that we have focused a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on what we have to lose. I mean, there has

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<v Speaker 1>been an obesity epidemic going on, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>For the last fifty years or so, we've been chasing

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<v Speaker 1>obesity as something that we have to lose as the

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<v Speaker 1>root of all of our problems, and it's very disempowering.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think about what women and men have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through, the average person has at least fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>diet books on their shelf, and can you imagine trying

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<v Speaker 1>to lose fat something that you don't necessarily have control over.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the flip side, our body is made up

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<v Speaker 1>of forty percent muscle. It is something that we can

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<v Speaker 1>take action and focus on what we have to gain,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can use our mind to do it, or

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<v Speaker 1>you can use your muscle to move your mind, and

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<v Speaker 1>so either way you will become a stronger, more resilient human.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we recognize that muscle is the organ of

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<v Speaker 1>longevity and what we need and what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on for aging. I mean, you talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about health and wellness, in order to get there, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to acknowledge skeletal muscle as an organ system.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, You're the first person to say to

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<v Speaker 2>me that we've been thinking about it or wrong. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never heard it put that way. I feel like every

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<v Speaker 2>single book or every single conversation is always about losing

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<v Speaker 2>fat and not about building muscle. And even though we're

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<v Speaker 2>in this protein rich muscle conversation right now, which is great,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still always been And it's almost like telling someone

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<v Speaker 2>never to have a negative thought again without having a positive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right, and that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always gonna have negative thoughts. That's always going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the case. But what if you could lean in

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<v Speaker 2>And no one has ever said it that way, And

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<v Speaker 2>now that you've said that, it's almost like I've unlocked

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<v Speaker 2>a whole new mindset about it, because I think everyone

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<v Speaker 2>listening to just think about that for a second. You've

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<v Speaker 2>been spending the last few decades every single January first,

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking to yourself, this is the year I lose weight.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the year I lose weight. And it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, you just said, forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of us is muscle. If it's all about building muscle,

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<v Speaker 2>building something that we already have. We lose weight naturally, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that happens as a byproduct of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is the only organ system that we have

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary control over. You cannot tell your heart to be

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty beats per minute. You cannot tell your thyroid

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<v Speaker 1>to produce x number of thyroid hormones, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell your bicep to curl, You can tell your body

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<v Speaker 1>to squad. It is the only organ system that we

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<v Speaker 1>have full control over, which makes it extremely empowering. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I think about obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease,

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<v Speaker 1>what if these external diseases are all in part pathology

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<v Speaker 1>of unhealthy muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>First talk to me about that. Yes, explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So skeletal muscle and I say skeletal muscle. People

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<v Speaker 1>are like, well, why do you always say skeletal muscle. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's cardiac muscle and then there's smooth muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, cardiac muscle stride and muscle the heart. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>only area where there is again cardiac muscle, and then

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<v Speaker 1>smooth muscle is uterus or in blood vessels. But skeletal

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<v Speaker 1>muscle that is our powerhouse. That is what we are

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<v Speaker 1>built on and as the most important organ system, it

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<v Speaker 1>is the center and focal point for an number of things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>number one, you knew you were talking about sport. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that muscle is important for sport mobility, yes, and strength,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but what about muscle as our metabolic control center.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeletal muscle is the primary site for carbohydrate metabolism, for

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<v Speaker 1>fatty acid metabolism, for amino acid reserve. It's our body armor,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you contract it, it releases these myokindes, which

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<v Speaker 1>are hormones that go throughout the body that affect the

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<v Speaker 1>brain and the liver and the bone. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>skeletal muscle when it becomes unhealthy. If you think about

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<v Speaker 1>muscle cross sectional area of to thigh, a filet mignon

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<v Speaker 1>sounds gross, but just stay with me. Is a rich

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<v Speaker 1>red muscle without fat infiltrated into it versus a wagou

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<v Speaker 1>steak or a ribi which has fat that is infiltrated

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<v Speaker 1>throughout it. When we gain weight, don't just gain weight

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<v Speaker 1>subpcutaneously that we can see or even viscerally around our organs,

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<v Speaker 1>but we also can gain weight should I say gain

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<v Speaker 1>weight gain fat within that muscle tissue and muscle becomes unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no such thing as a healthy sedentary person.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that muscle becomes unhealthy, then we see diseases

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<v Speaker 1>like cardiovascular diseases, Alzheimer's, which is type through diabetes of

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. But the health of our body and what

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<v Speaker 1>controls glucose triglycerides relate to the health of our skeletal muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I would argue that skeletal muscle at its

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<v Speaker 1>core is a root cause of obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular disease,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alzheimer's, because these are diseases in part of metabolism.

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<v Speaker 1>And if someone is listening, they're like, well, what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean. You go to your doctor and you get

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<v Speaker 1>your triglystrides measured or your cholesterol measured, you get your

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<v Speaker 1>glucose measured, your insulin, but the primary site for control

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<v Speaker 1>of that is muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you see that you can't measure that right?

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<v Speaker 1>You can?

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<v Speaker 2>What's it called? What would what should you be asking for?

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<v Speaker 1>Ask for a panel for metabolic syndrome? And everyone's heard

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<v Speaker 1>about metabolic syndrome. So it's a fat percentage over thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>it's elevated blood pressure, it's elevated triglytrides, insulin, and glucose.

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<v Speaker 1>What's fascinating is people feel as if that is related

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<v Speaker 1>to obesity, but it's a clinical indication that your muscles

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<v Speaker 1>are unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you say that pull muscle health is bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than the obesity crisis, because that's what's at the root of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, exactly. And for the last fifty years we've been

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<v Speaker 1>chasing obesity and it reminds me of this. So have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of the street lamp effect?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Okay, well, actually I think I have out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I forgot what.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been to New York City and you've been to

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<v Speaker 1>Central Park. So imagine that it's two in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a guy who's drunk and he's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>his keys, and you know, there's lamp posts, and a

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<v Speaker 1>cop comes over and he sees this guy on his

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<v Speaker 1>hands and knees and he's looking for his keys. The

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<v Speaker 1>cop comes over and is, well, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I help you? And he's like, yeah, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>lost my keys. So the cop and the guy are

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<v Speaker 1>on their hands and knees looking for the keys, and

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<v Speaker 1>after twenty minutes, the cop goes, are you sure you

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<v Speaker 1>lost your keys here? And he was like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>lost it over there in the park, but it's too dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see anything. So aside from wasting time and

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<v Speaker 1>probably the cop got really frustrated. It's a metaphor for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that obesity is easy to see. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel when our muscles become unhealthy, it doesn't affect us,

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<v Speaker 1>but we see when we put on weight, and that

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<v Speaker 1>has then become the primary focus. And the only way

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to solve something is if we ask the

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<v Speaker 1>right question. Yeah, and if we are still asking the

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<v Speaker 1>question about obesity, then we are absolutely missing the point

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<v Speaker 1>of skeleton muscle as the primary organ system for a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and great, strong life because it is at the

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<v Speaker 1>focal point.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I mean yeah, No one's ever explained it like

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<v Speaker 2>that to me, and I feel like it's a breakthrough

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<v Speaker 2>to hear it that way, because we've just been looking

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong direction, focused on the wrong thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would add that another reason for that is because

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<v Speaker 2>it's aesthetic, like we look at it as something that

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<v Speaker 2>will improve the way we look, etc. And feel good

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<v Speaker 2>about ourselves, and so it becomes an easier thing to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on, whereas there may be a feeling of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be too bulky, or I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to look like this, or that's not how I

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<v Speaker 2>meant to look or whatever. These norms and traditions have

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<v Speaker 2>been or what our physical appearances should be like.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said something really important, and you know this

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<v Speaker 1>better than anybody. Humans become really good at thinking the

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<v Speaker 1>same way. And because we've been talking about obesity for

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<v Speaker 1>so long and well, we should lose weight, then that

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<v Speaker 1>is passed down generation after generation, as opposed to I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out and I'm going to do my

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<v Speaker 1>best to build muscle. And let's face it, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's much easier to gain body fat than it is

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<v Speaker 1>to build muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're hard is it?

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<v Speaker 3>How is it?

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<v Speaker 1>How?

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<v Speaker 2>What is how hot? What is how long does it

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<v Speaker 2>take to gain body fat versus build muscle? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>They say that it's an excess of three hundred thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred calories for every pound I mean, think about

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays. The average person, I don't know, they might

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<v Speaker 1>gain between five and ten pounds over this season. They

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<v Speaker 1>could be training for a month and it might take

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<v Speaker 1>depending if they're new to training, they might gain one

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<v Speaker 1>to few pounds. If they are perfect and dedicated of muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the fitter you are, the more skilled you

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<v Speaker 1>are at training, the more difficult it is to put

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<v Speaker 1>on muscle. But those same people. It's discurgin, But those

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<v Speaker 1>same people could go out and eat a cake and

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<v Speaker 1>do all this other stuff and put on fat. The

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<v Speaker 1>body finds it very easy to store body fat. It's

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<v Speaker 1>this protective mechanism. Arguably, I would say it's a design

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<v Speaker 1>flaw that it's so much more difficult to put on muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>But even with that being said, if we reorient ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>to muscle, then as we think about aging, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>natural decline in muscle and muscle health. And we know

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<v Speaker 1>that consciously. If you look at your parents or your grandparents,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem to have shrunk, right, I mean, you've experienced that,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's this natural progression, especially when people don't train

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<v Speaker 1>because skeletal muscle tissue it changes. It becomes more resistance

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<v Speaker 1>called anabolic resistance. It becomes less efficient at utilizing protein.

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<v Speaker 1>It can become less efficient at responding to exercise. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not to say that it always does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you exercise and have a great program, you can

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<v Speaker 1>be ninety years old and you'll put on muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about how to build it. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>we've shifted everyone's focus to this conversation being all around

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<v Speaker 2>building muscle as the priority, as the focus. We know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not easy, we know there's a challenge to it.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the first thing that we do that we was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to build a muscle?

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<v Speaker 1>There is something that people have to recognize that when

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<v Speaker 1>you are young, you are very anabolic. My kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about what's young five Okay, but really

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the cut off, we say is about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, and after thirty five you have to become

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<v Speaker 1>much more intentional about both died and training when you're young.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was talking to you before showing you

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<v Speaker 1>videos of my four year old who's training for the

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<v Speaker 1>CELT to push out yea. He doesn't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about building muscle or thinking about a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 1>protein because he's so anabolic, meaning five grams of protein

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<v Speaker 1>could be all he needs to stimulate his muscle. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>we get older, it's a minimum of around thirty grams

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<v Speaker 1>to stimulate muscle protein synthesis. But when we think about

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<v Speaker 1>building muscle, we require a certain progressive stimulus. And this

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<v Speaker 1>typically I think about resistance training, and for people who

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<v Speaker 1>are listening, they're like, well, the women will say this

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I've never lifted a weight in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel very uncomfortable and hesitant to start. And do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what my answer is, you've been lifting weights

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life. Do you have a toddler, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have luggage? Do you have groceries? People have to stop

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<v Speaker 1>believing this repetitive narrative. They are stronger than they think,

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<v Speaker 1>they are more capable, and they've been doing it their

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<v Speaker 1>entire life, but just not in a structured program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's and again it's a mindset shift. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a mindset shift to recognize all those moments that you've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it. And kids are heavy sometimes kids kids

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<v Speaker 2>discussing to be super heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we know that people have been doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>So what do they have to do to build muscle? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that the current recommendations for exercise are

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty minutes of moderate to vigorous activity

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<v Speaker 1>a week and two days a week of resistance training.

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<v Speaker 1>Roughly seventy four percent of people don't meet that. Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of people are sedentary, not moving. So why that

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<v Speaker 1>sets us up for an opportunity. As soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>begin to implement a program, they should see success. And

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<v Speaker 1>I like to start with two to three days a

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<v Speaker 1>week of a resistance training program, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>put that in the playbook. They don't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the gyms since training can include body weight, weights, bands,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that you are moving your body against some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of force. It's simple, not complicated. The lighter the weight,

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<v Speaker 1>the more reps you have to do. The heavier the weight,

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<v Speaker 1>the less you have to do. And there's ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which you can change up the stimulus. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to always progress to heavier weights because if your audience

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<v Speaker 1>is older, or if someone who's listening is older, those

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<v Speaker 1>that heavyweights could set them up for injury. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about is this weight too light or too heavy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about the stimulus to the tissue.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like the mind, the body responds to resistance

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<v Speaker 1>and if we create enough resistance then it has to respond.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about that because I think there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a full understanding. You just explained the difference between heavyweights,

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<v Speaker 2>less reps, low weight, higher rep to build muscle. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you trying to feel after the completion of a

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<v Speaker 2>set number of reps to know that you're building muscle?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you could do a low weight high reps and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe don't feel that stretched, or you could do high

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<v Speaker 2>weight low reps and you do feel quite stretched. What's

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<v Speaker 2>building muscle?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that regardless, you're building strength and you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting technical skills. And again, if we're talking about hypertrophy,

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<v Speaker 1>because building mass is important, people will say, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they argue about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean by that building Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly where I was going. But these are great

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<v Speaker 1>questions because I think that the way that we look

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<v Speaker 1>at muscle in general, we're doing it such a disservice.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it important to build mass? And they argue

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<v Speaker 1>about this in the scientific community, But you know I

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<v Speaker 1>cheat I trained in geriatrics, which is people over the

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<v Speaker 1>age of sixty five, and this is one reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I became so passionate about talking about muscle. Muscle mass.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of muscle you have is important for a

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<v Speaker 1>number of reasons. If you bought into what I said

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>about muscle being this metabolic control center, then you recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that muscle. The more healthy muscle mass you have, the

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<v Speaker 1>more of an opportunity the place you have to store glucose,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you can't remove glucose out of the bloodstream,

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<v Speaker 1>into cells after two hours. You know, we have a

0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 1>disease for that. We have a name for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's called diabetes. The more healthy muscle mass you have,

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<v Speaker 1>the better your metabolic control. So think about it this

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<v Speaker 1>way and again this is setting the stage for why

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<v Speaker 1>building muscle is so important. Think about it as a suitcase.

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<v Speaker 1>Your muscle is a suitcase. You are going on a

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<v Speaker 1>trip for four days. You're bringing just to carry on.

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<v Speaker 1>You open it up, you stuff it in there and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of looking for four days. I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm a very heavy packer. I packed for fourteen Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you probably wear the same pair of shoes.

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I bring at least three pairs of shoes. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the suitcase and I'm stuffing all this clothes in and

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<v Speaker 1>then I've packed for fourteen days. I close the suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't get it to close. My clothes are

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<v Speaker 1>falling everywhere, half the shoes are out. Your muscle is

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<v Speaker 1>just like that. If you are over eating carbohydrates, you

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<v Speaker 1>have nowhere else for the carbs or fatty acids to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Stays in the bloodstream for a period of time, and

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<v Speaker 1>then over time it deranges metabolism. You put on body fat,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is one reason skeleton muscle is so important.

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:47.879
<v Speaker 1>It's the suitcase of your body. So now we go

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<v Speaker 1>back to building mass. How do we do it? Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've told you that it's really important because of your

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<v Speaker 1>metabolic control center. There's a number of other reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>building mass is so important. If you get sick, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get pneumonia, if you you know, break a bone,

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>if you are hustlized or in a highly catabog sty.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all had the flu terrible, terrible, terrible. Your body

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>will pull from your body armor also known as a muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>To get those amino acids out for repair and rebuilding.

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<v Speaker 1>That's critically important. So then we go to one more

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's very important is the site for fatty acid oxidation.

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<v Speaker 1>At rest, healthy muscle burns fat. The more muscle mass

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<v Speaker 1>you have, the more all of these things are accounted for.

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<v Speaker 1>If we focus on obesity, and I'm going somewhere with

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<v Speaker 1>this to stay with me, there is this cycle of

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>weight gain and weight loss. And each time you hit

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<v Speaker 1>January first and you put on weight and then you

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<v Speaker 1>crash diet and then half the weight that you lose

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<v Speaker 1>is muscle, and you do this year after year, over time,

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<v Speaker 1>you are left with less muscle than you started with.

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And then you start to see blood glucose increase, fatty

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>acids increase, visceral fat increase. All of a sudden, it

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense. So then we turn our attention to

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>what do we do to fix it? Whether your body

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:31.160
<v Speaker 1>composition changes, the moment you begin to engage in exercise

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and movement, you're emptying the suitcase, you're using that fuel.

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So while we are talking about resistance training for hypertrophy,

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>which is building mass, recognize that the moment you choose

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to do something physical, you are improving in that moment

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the health of that tissue. Because what I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to happen is people to be hyper fixated on how

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<v Speaker 1>to build it, because then we're just the reverse reverse

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>coint of how to lose it. But again, focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>resistance training two to three days a week of providing

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>enough stimulus. And you talked about this is it light weights?

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Is it heavy weights? And you know I love the

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<v Speaker 1>rep range ten to twelve where you have one or

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<v Speaker 1>two reps in reserve where you can't go one more

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<v Speaker 1>rep without a technical failure without your form breaking down,

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you just can't quite do it. You do this over

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<v Speaker 1>time and you become stronger, you become more skilled at training,

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and more importantly, you will find ways to then to

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<v Speaker 1>progress this activity.

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<v Speaker 2>The main difference with men building muscle and women building muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great question. Now there's a lot of myths

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>out there and women, and again this is pretty controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>Men have more muscle massive baseline, but relative to their size,

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>there is data to suggest there's no difference to the

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>amount that a woman could build versus a man relative

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to size, and same with strength. But culturally we have

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to recognize that. I don't know about you, but when

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>you go to the gym, do you see a lot

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>of women in the weight room?

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's not based on just traditionally women

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>are if you. I mean, it's changing now and I'm

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>so grateful that it's changing, but really, women are you know,

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but I remember my mom

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>wearing a leotard and the bandana and eating salad. And

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>we've done this for decades. Women are afraid to get bulky.

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>It's never going to happen. I've been trying for thirty years.

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And if you talk to any guy who's reading any

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>of the muscle mags, they've also been trying. It is

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to put on muscle, but it's not impossible.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>And to answer your question, men and women can both

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>put on size and both be strong relative to their

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>body size.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>But the process of putting it on is the process

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>of putting on muscle different for men and women?

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>No, No, And that's important to recognize that a good

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>foundation program, with enough stimulus, you will see data to

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>support that men and women can put on muscle comparatively,

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean that it's always that way. But again,

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of factors and a lot of the

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>data is you know, it's difficult because we take randomized

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 1>control trials and we take meta analyzes and then we

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>try to put into clinical practice and we have to

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>recognize that people are individual and there's individual variability based

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 1>on people. Yeah, for sure, muscle is made up of

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>two main fiber types. There's type one fiber and type

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>two fiber. Type one fiber you can think of as

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>endurance fiber. So my husband, he's really big into marathons.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 1>He's crazy, but he loves running marathons, and he has

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of type one fiber types and that primarily

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 1>will burn fatty acids. And then there's the type two

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>fiber type, which I think of two and two biceps,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's the bigger, bulkier fiber that is used for

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>lifting weights. And over time, as we age the type

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>two fibers for power and strength, they naturally decrease and

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>we're left with more type one fibers, which again are

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>this thinner more think of it as a endurance athlete.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>This is why resistance training is so important, is to

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>maintain and build those type two fiber types.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>If someone wanted to test their strength today, what could

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>they do for them to know whether they're doing well

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 2>or struggling?

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now there's the hand grip test, so basically, and

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you can buy one of these on Amazon and it

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>tests your hand grip strength and it will give you

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>a range if you are strong or weak, It'll give

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you a range. But that's great. However, what I would

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>rather have people do is pick an exercise like a

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>push up and see how many push ups that they

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>can do at baseline, and then begin to train or

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>do a pull up or a dead hang ways that

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>we can increase grip strength. I mean there's a million

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>different ways to do these things and people should figure

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>out one thing that works for them and test it.

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's a push up. I say everybody should do.

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>See how many push ups you can do and then

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you train for it for.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>A healthy amount of a healthy woman. How many push

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>ups should they be able to do?

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't have a number. Okay, we don't have a

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>number that I can confidently say. I mean there is

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>some data that if a man can do and I

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>don't remember this number, so I don't want to misspeak.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>But they've done a few studies in men that if

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>men can do I think it's ten or more push

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>ups in a period of time that they have a

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>lower risk of heart disease. And really what it's relating to,

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and don't quote me on that number, but what it's

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>related to is I think their muscular health and strength.

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>But again, we should pick one or two exercises and

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>set that as a standard of something that you work

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to achieve.

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I also think that's just a great place to start.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes the challenge with this is we try

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>and start out a workout regimen and the challenge with

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>that is is like you're like going from doing nothing

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>for years, it's now saying I'm going to go to

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the gym three times a week. I'm going to do

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 2>two days of resistance training, one day of cardia. And

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like, this is it's so much. And I remember

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>when I was recovering from a surgery and I couldn't

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>do one push up unless I was on my knees

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>because of my surgery. And I remember just getting on

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>my knees and doing one push up every night, and

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>then the next day I could do five, and the

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>next day I could ten. And now that my surgery's

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>held and everything, it's like I'll comfortably do twenty five

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>thirty push ups whatever it is in one round and

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>can do more. And it's just so fascinating to me.

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>How like, just I love that advice. So just pick

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>one thing because what it does is a few things.

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>The first thing it does is you actually get to

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 2>see how strong you are, and you get to feel

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and measure growth. You're not measuring now do I have muscle?

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Have I lost weight? You're like, I can do one

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 2>push up. The second thing is it builds your confidence

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I could get off my knees and

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 2>start doing proper push ups again. After my surgery, I

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, I'm making progress. My body didn't look

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>any different, didn't have an amazing chest or didn't have

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>abs or whatever. I just felt better about myself. I

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, I went from doing ten push ups

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>on my knees to doing ten push ups without. Oh.

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I can do thirty push ups in one go,

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and I do four rounds within a thirty second break

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>of each. Oh wow, I feel really good. And I

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's what so many of us. And I'm

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>speaking of someone who has not worked out since I

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 2>was young, has not gone to the gym. Now, I

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>have a five day week weight training program, play pickaball

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>three times a week, have a high protein diet. But

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>like having gone through that, for me, it was those

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 2>little moments of picking one activity that just started to

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>make me feel better. Does that make sense?

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I love that. And also you've reoriented everyone listening or

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>watching to the fact that it was under your conscious control. Yeah,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't control how much muscle you're gonna put on,

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't control how much fat you're going to lose,

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But the one right thing. Is that one next action

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that you can take, because if we can understand that

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>muscle is this organ of longevity, and we've so far

0:32:55.440 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>pushed it to this vanity metric that you're missing what

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it really is, and it's the foundation for our health

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and wellness. And it's this bi directional relationship you just

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>said confidence. Yes, the stronger you are, the more effective

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you are going to be in your mind. We use

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the body to build the mind, because sometimes the mind

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. I'm gonna give you an example. Think about

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you're in a negative headspace and everyone listening, they've all

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>been there, right, You can try to think your way

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>out of I mean, listen, Jay, you might be more

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>skilled at thinking your way out of a negative headspace

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>than say the rest of us. But I know, for me,

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>if I am struggling with a thought that is ruminating,

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>or I did something and now I'm thinking about, well,

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish I hadn't done this, and it's just spiraling

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>out of control. The fastest way to stop that, and

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the most effective way to stop that is not thinking

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>my way out of it. But it's taking thirty seconds

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to do something so physically hard that you cannot possibly

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>think of anything else in imagine trying to think of

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>those negative thoughts when you are doing a ten second

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>max outsprint where you want to die because you just

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>work so hard you're not thinking about any of that.

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Or do you cold plunge it all?

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just there yesterday. I love it. It's crazy.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Could you think of anything else? That's seconding it?

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.439
<v Speaker 2>That's it? Focus on that's it.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>And you've now leveraged your body, your muscle, to change

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>your physiology, your mental constructs, and so people have to

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>recognize that muscle is at the focal point for our

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>physical power but also our mental power. And if you

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>can't move your mind, you can definitely move your body.

0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And I challenge anyone to try to think of any

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 1>anything negative when you are jumping in that cold plund Yeah.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the challenge I want people to do. While

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>you're listening to this right now, here's what I want

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you to do. I want you to use Gabrielle's insight

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 2>of just choose one activity. I think bush ups are

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 2>the easiest one, and just see how many you can

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>do today, and then see how many you can do tomorrow,

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and see how many you can do the third day,

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Just take one activity. You don't have to start going

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to the gym three times a week if you're not

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>already doing that. Now. I know a lot of our

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>audience loves going to the gym, loves walking. Hopefully this

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>is shifting in the direction of muscle building and helping

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you understand what that's going to require. The question I

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you was what are the dangers of

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>being skinny fat?

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about sarcopenic obesity, which, by the way, I

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>think is going to be the new epidemic. We have

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>largely been able to and I don't want to. I

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>want to be very careful about what I'm saying here.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>We have now the use of jolpi ones. They are

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a medication called an innkreton does a number of things.

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>They are more effective for weight loss than nearly anything

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>we've ever seen except for bariatric surgery. With the use

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.959
<v Speaker 1>of these vlp ones, individuals are able to lose weight.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Part of that weight is fat, and part of that

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>weight is muscle. When we lose muscle like that at

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>any kind of rapid pace, or really at all, we

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>now are a smaller version of ourselves, with less muscle

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and this becomes extremely detrimental. So while we work on

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>treating obesity, we are treating one epidemic obesity for sarcopenia,

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>which is low muscle mass and function. The dangers of

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that are astronomical number one. Low muscle mass is poor

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>metabolic health. Number two, muscle pulls bone. When you have

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>low muscle mass, that is an indicator that you will

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>have lower bone density. We've all heard about the people

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that fall and break a hip and oftentimes low muscle

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>mass and strength and function, which is defined as cyclopenia.

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>We think about as diseases of aging. They're not. We

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>are going to see sarcopenia as diseases of youth, and

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:17.439
<v Speaker 1>it is terrifying and we are not ready to deal

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>with it. Because if the majority of the population is sedentary,

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and there are two ways to stimulate muscle, which is

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.479
<v Speaker 1>diet and exercise, those are the two main ways diet

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and resistance training. If an individual becomes skinny fat, we

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>know that they have an increased risk of higher glucose,

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>higher triglis threads, higher insulin, all of things at the

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>core of Alzheimer's diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and low bone density

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we have to address it because muscle. I think about

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>why muscle is important in kind of a three prong

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>bucket area. Number one muscle mass and strength. If you

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>are skinny fat, you probably don't have that. Number two metabolism.

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>If you're skinny fat, you definitely don't have that. And

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>number three plumbing. You need to have activity, not just

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>resistance training, but also cardiovascular activity to have good blood flow.

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have any of those things, then

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>your muscle span. You know, people talk about health span,

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about lifespan, but it really is about muscle span.

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, and you have less of that.

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, but that's what's so hard about it

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.800
<v Speaker 2>because you think you look healthier because we've made people

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>believe that healthy means like like no fat totally and

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 2>so outwardly it looks like you ticked all the boxes

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>and you got it right. And whether you did it

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>through a gop one or whether you did it just

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 2>through fasting, well, whether you're naturally built that way, like

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm naturally skinnier, Like I'm a leaner person in ever

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>since I lost weight when I was a teenager, I'm

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 2>a leaner. So for me, putting a muscles hard. It's

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 2>very easy for me to naturally be skinny fat, and

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 2>it takes a lot of ever to turn that around.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad that we're addressing it because I think

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that's where it comes back to your mum wearing the

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>headband and the.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Salady kill me when she listens to this by.

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Sorry mom, But no, it's that idea of like, yeah,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 2>if I eat salad every day and you know, I

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 2>walk or run, I'll be fine, But I'm not actually

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 2>building any muscle because there's no resistance training.

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, And I'm going to take it one step further. So,

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the average American eats around three hundred grams of carbohydrates.

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And I talked a lot about metabolism and the muscle

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>being the focal point, and I would argue that we

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>are eating out of alignment with our muscle health. So

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>when we are eating, if you believe muscle as this

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>suitcase analogy, and that is the place where carbohydrates go.

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And we eat about three hundred grams of carbohydrates a

0:39:55.719 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>day according to the Healthy Eating Index, we are eating

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight percent more refined grains processed carbohydrates than we should.

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, that's actually crazy.

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>The average the average No, no, so the average, the

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>average person is eating ninety eight percent more grains and

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>process foods in the show. Wow, the majority of us

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>are not eating fruits and vegetables. We have a low

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>intake of seafood and a lower intake of dairy. I mean,

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>the majority of individuals are eating a highly processed food diet.

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 2>That was the challenge. I was going to say, Ah,

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 2>so it's also processed.

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 1>It's highly processed, highly palatable, highly addictive. But what happens

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>is is muscles not prepared to be able to deal

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with that. If you are sedentary, which we know based

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.439
<v Speaker 1>on the statistics, most people are sedentary, and then we're

0:40:55.440 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>giving them highly processed foods, there is no way to

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>be set up for success. And I can share with

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you because I know that your wife is so interested

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.919
<v Speaker 1>in nutrition. I can't wait to chat with her. How

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>many carbohydrates one should have at the first meal, which

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>is breakfast, and at any additional meal, and what they

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>would have to earn after that, which is going to

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>be surprising.

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, tell me now, I want to know that

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I forget my wife. Sorry, right, but no, that's really

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>interesting to me.

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, because it's practical takeaways for people. Well, if

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you think about glucose disposal, where it goes, what uses

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>carbohydrates or what uses glucose. You have your obligatory use,

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>which is brain and red blood cells, and then you

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>have your organs, and then you have your muscle. If

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you are sedentary, your body is using about fifty grams

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>at max over a two hour period. Fifty grams of

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.919
<v Speaker 1>carbohydrates at a two hour period. It's probably a little

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>bit lower because if you're not exercising, there's nowhere for

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the glycogen to go the carbohydrates to go. Imagine fifty

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:03.280
<v Speaker 1>ground So if anyone is listening, think about that fifty grams.

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Your one process donut probably has seventy five grams of carbohydrates.

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Anything above fifty can derange metabolism if you are sedentary.

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So a practical takeaway would be how many carbohydrates are

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you consuming? Yes, over the day, but even more important

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>per meal the first meal of the day. I don't

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>like to have my I still see patients, by the way,

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>my first meal of the day. I don't like to

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>have more than thirty five grams of carbs. Every other meal.

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no reason to go over one hundred

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and thirty grams of the RDA set at one hundred

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and thirty grams.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Per meal per day a day.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, per day, but really.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.479
<v Speaker 2>So you're spreading doing thirty five grams than forty five grams.

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And depending on if I'm active, I'm a tiny person.

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm not active, I'm not having a bunch of carbohydrates.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>The body requires about eighty grams a day, and we

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have an essential carbo hyde requirement. By the way.

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>The body can make all it needs, but if you

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>were to eat it, you just have to be very

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>aware at how you are treating muscle help because you

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 1>do not want a derange metabolism. We know what that

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>does over time.

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm assuming obviously what's the protein intake across those

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>meals then for.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You, typically that first meal of the day is around

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>forty five grams of protein, anywhere from thirty five upwards.

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>If you're a bigger person, fifty grounds and the first

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 1>meal of the day, I would argue the most important.

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 1>You are coming out of an overnight fast and your

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>body is primed now. I also mentioned earlier that if

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you are older, anything over the age of thirty five

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that your muscle and it's probably a little young, but

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I like picking thirty five as a cutoff marker. It's

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>really important to have enough protein at that first meal

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the data, I would say arguably

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>almost all the data for muscle holme health and muscle

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>protein synthesis is at that first meal of the day,

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and that number should be between thirty five and fifty

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.240
<v Speaker 1>five grams of protein. People are like, oh my gosh,

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>what is that and why? Because you want to stimulate muscle.

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>You are utilizing your diet, which, by the way, everybody eats.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 1>That is the one constant one hundred percent of people

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>are doing it. It seems like exercise is optional, that

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>dietary protein is really important, and that first meal will

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>stimulate muscle. If carbohydrates are lower, you have an opportunity

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to be more satiated. So we joke in our office

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that protein is the GLP one of the macronutrient, right.

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It increases these gut hormones like pyy and these hormones

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that send signals to the brain and the body that

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you are getting a caloric load and that you are

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>more satiated and Interestingly, that number in order to ste

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>mumulate GLP in a meaningful way is around thirty grams.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>The dietary protein intake and the GLP one release is

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>about thirty grams. You are not chasing the ebbs and

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>flows of blood sugar, and you are set up for

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>success and less likely to grab donuts or something sweet

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:23.399
<v Speaker 1>at that second meal, which is it's like augmenting willpower. Yeah,

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and that last meal of the day is the next

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>most important before you're going into an overnight fast.

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>What would you suggest for that.

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Around fifty grams of protein? People are thinking that's probably

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot. And part of the reason people think this

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>recommendation is a lot is we have been trained, just

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like to be trained to be focused on obesity, that

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>our current recommendation for protein is high. It's not. The

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 1>current recommendation for protein is set at the bare minimum

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to prevent disease. That's the floor at point a grams

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>per kg. I don't know about you, but I'm not

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>looking to be at the minimum. I want to be

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>able to design a diet that allows for healthy muscle

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>aging and just aging in general. And the data would

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>support closer to double that. And I actually worked on

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:20.240
<v Speaker 1>some of these early studies back in two thousand and nine.

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, these studies started or even before that.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>But these studies looked at and this is out of

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Don Layman's lab, who's the og, the goat of protein metabolsm,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:32.439
<v Speaker 1>which is hilarious. I used to sit in the front

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>row and just take notes. I was that person. But anyway,

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty years later, he's still my mentor. And we worked

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>on a study where it had the food Guide pyramid.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I remember that the food GUYE pyramid, which really correlated

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>with this rise in obesity. It was a really bad

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:54.479
<v Speaker 1>social experiment. And the study was designed isochloric, so each

0:46:54.560 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 1>group had the same calories. They also had this same carbohydrates,

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>but the difference was that one group had the minimum

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>protein recommendation and the other group had double the protein recommendation.

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And what they saw was that that those individuals that

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 1>had double the protein lost more fat mass maintained more

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>lean tissue than those that had the minimum amount of protein.

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:30.919
<v Speaker 1>And so we have to acknowledge that if we want

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>to protect ourselves and have healthy aging, that it requires

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>dietary protein in a more robust amount than we are

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>being told, Now, yeah.

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 2>What about those A lot of people I know right

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.880
<v Speaker 2>now are saying that they're struggling with and I experienced

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 2>this myself. They're struggling with some level of protein in

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 2>trake and gut health. So there seems to be something.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 1>This is a really important conversation. It depends on where

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you are getting protein, and it is a challenge for people,

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of discussion is it animal based

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>or plant based. At the end of the day, it

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. The more plant based you are, the higher

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>your protein need is going to be overall. So, for example,

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the minimum amount of protein I would recommend for anybody

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>would be around one hundred grams. If an individual is

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>eating a more plant based diet, then with that comes

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 1>fiber and just more overall caloric load and carbohydrates. There's

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing wrong with it, and a well designed diet

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>can support muscle health with a more plant based diet.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Animal based proteins have a higher biological value, they're more

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>easy to absorb, and they typically require a lot less

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>food to meet those amino acids. So when I say protein,

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 1>it's not just one thing. If we were to pick

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 1>up a back of a label and we get the

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 1>back and there is no protein in this amazing drink

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 1>which I'm about to have. What we expect to see

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 1>is just protein. So you'll see the carbohydrates. Carbohydrates might

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>have sugars, it might have fiber, fats, might have saturated fats,

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 1>might have unsatury fat. Maybe it has trans fats which

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>no one should eat. And then you get all the

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>way down and the last number is protein. But protein

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't one thing. It's made up of twenty different amino acids,

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>all of which have various compositions depending on the food.

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>It is very misleading to show protein as one number. Interesting, right,

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>for example, if you were to think about a animal

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>based product, it has the most similar amino acid composition,

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>which these are the building blocks. There are twenty nine

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of which are essential, which means we must eat those proteins.

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>You can't make it. And when it comes to muscle health,

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>we're eating for this amino acid called leucine, and it's

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>about two and a half grams of leucine. That's where

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>these numbers come from. This thirty grams, this fifty grams

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>because leucine triggers muscle. But there are a whole bunch

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>of other essential amino acids. For example, three aene for

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 1>gut health, it makes muscin. There you know, there's tryptophan,

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and there are neurotransmitter precursor, there's phenylalanine, there's cysteine that

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is a precursor for methionine, which is the master antioxidant

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 1>which our bodies become less efficient at making. So we're

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking globally about protein, and we're thinking it from a

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>lens of muscle, which makes a lot of sense and

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>makes it easy. But the reality is we are turning

0:50:55.560 --> 0:51:00.359
<v Speaker 1>over around two hundred and fifty grams of protein a day.

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:05.399
<v Speaker 1>Your body will replace itself roughly four times a year.

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:10.280
<v Speaker 1>And why protein becomes so important is that we become

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:14.799
<v Speaker 1>less efficient at this and that is why twofold we

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>need a protein diet that is higher than what we

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>are being told. And as we are aging, I would

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:26.879
<v Speaker 1>argue that getting that first meal to stimulate muscle and

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that last meal before we're going into an overnight fast,

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 1>just from practical application that everybody listening or watching could do,

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>will help protect muscle and will allow your body to

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 1>help repair and rebuild itself.

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 2>And if you're taking in that much protein, how much

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 2>do you need to be exercising in order to great question?

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Great question, And what you're talking about is how do

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>we make protein decisions. If I was going to go

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>down the list of how to make protein decisions, the

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>first thing that I think about is age. The older

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you are, the more protein you need. And then physical activity.

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, the more physically active you are,

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the less protein you need. Because it's all about muscle stimulation.

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And if there's two main ways to stimulate skeletal muscle

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>dietary protein and exercise, primarily resistance training, which again cardiovascular

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 1>training is very important too, but you are leaning on

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>resistance training to improve muscle health. And then if you

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>are sedentary because you are not pulling the lever of exercise,

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>then you require more dietary protein. And then it comes

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 1>down to personal choice. Right, you can have a higher

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 1>protein diet. I prefer a higher protein diet which is

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>closer to one ground per pound of target body weight

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>for a number of reasons. Number one, it's more satiating,

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it's the GLP one of nature. Number two, it has

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 1>a higher thermic effect, meaning you know, when you eat

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>protein it is not easy to metabolize, and it's very

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>important to the body. And let me say this in

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>a better way. When you eat dietary protein and you

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:20.240
<v Speaker 1>begin to stimulate muscle, that is an energy expensive process.

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 1>So your body kicks in these you know, mechanisms to

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:29.399
<v Speaker 1>begin to utilize it. And then in addition, when we're

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 1>eating a higher protein diet, we are allowing our body

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.759
<v Speaker 1>to have enough amino acids. Again, it's protein is not

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:40.280
<v Speaker 1>just one thing to do various other things like three

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like gut health and all these other things

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that we need. And so it does come down to

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>personal choice. And I would argue, and this is going

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to be surprising to people, that carbohydrates and fats are interchangeable.

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 1>As long as you know your target calories, then you

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>hate your protein need. If you're designing a diet and

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it's zero point seven to one one ground per pound

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>target body weight, very easy. The rest of your calories

0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you decide. As long as you're getting enough fiber and micronutrients,

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you get to pick whether it is fat or carbriadry.

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of flexibility in how we design

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>a diet for optimal.

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Health, which habits kill muscle gain being sedentary.

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 1>If you are sedentary, that will kill any kind of

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>muscle gain.

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And what's the definition of being sedentary.

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I would argue less than three thousand steps a day.

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's not that it just kills your gains. You

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>get something called intermuscular outipus tissue. It's called imat and

0:54:56.200 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>imat is fat that is deposited in your muscle. Your

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 1>muscle then becomes like a marbled steak. Whether you're skinny

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:08.799
<v Speaker 1>fat or not, there's fat in that muscle. If you

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.400
<v Speaker 1>are not taking action, and it doesn't have to be

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.440
<v Speaker 1>difficult action. For example, let's just say you are doing

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 1>your pushups or you are doing something to increase that flux.

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what's really important. And that can be done anywhere anytime.

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 1>There's only one wrong way to do it, you know

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>what that is to not do it. That's the only way,

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and so that becomes really important. Another habit that kills

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>your gains is to be inconsistent is to talk yourself

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 1>out of it. You know, we have to as humans

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 1>be prepared for mental friction. And you know, I still

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 1>see patients and one of the most valuable attributes of

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the patients that I see that are able to become

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the best at what they do. They have one attribute

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:58.240
<v Speaker 1>in common, and they're neutral. They never get too high

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and they never get too low. They don't have to

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>wait for motivation. They commit to something and this just

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 1>becomes their new standard. They're not always setting goals. They

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>become the type of person that trains, the type of

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 1>person that prioritizes their exercise. And when they do that,

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>they're not negotiating with themselves. They're very neutral, because you know,

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:25.399
<v Speaker 1>this is a really interesting experience that I've seen over

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>years of seeing patients. I'll give you an example. I

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>had one patient that every year he would put on

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>this massive event and he would hype himself up, and

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 1>he's doing push ups before he's going on stage, and

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>he's listening to a lot of music, and he's you know,

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:45.440
<v Speaker 1>overdosing caffeine. You couldn't possibly get enough. And right before

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 1>he goes out for this big talk, right at that

0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>pinnacle of that drive, in that pursuit, he's most vulnerable.

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>He's thinking about the next thing that he's doing. He's

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the next car he's buying. He's doing all

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 1>this risk taking drive behavior to help satisfy this dopamine urge.

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a point of vulnerability. Right after the event, I

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>put my phone down, I wait for the call. The

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>call is DK. I'm depressed. I don't feel like working out,

0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like eating well, I don't feel like

0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>exercising or spending time with anybody. I'm feeling so depressed.

0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 1>And at the lull, that is his vulnerability. And as

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>high as you allow yourself to go is as low

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:32.720
<v Speaker 1>as you will fall. And why am I bringing this

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 1>up by doc? I thought we're talking about muscle and

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>protein and how to manage our carbohydrates. Because if consistency matters,

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to prepare yourself for the human vulnerabilities that

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>are deeply predictable. You cannot be surprised by your own behavior.

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to modify those and there

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>are very particular ways that you can train yourself to

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 1>be more neutral. So anyway, at that lull, at that

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 1>you know troth, it takes in four months to get

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 1>back and access and you know you've you know, we

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>all know people that have experienced this. They get super pumped,

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>chasing the novelty of January first starting their new diet,

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>an exercise program and then crash and burn, as opposed

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to the people that are steady chopping wood and carrying

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>water stay on their plan for years.

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:33.959
<v Speaker 2>How does skipping meals affect muscle gain?

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, we want to think about how you're eating in

0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a twenty four hour period, and what I would recommend

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.959
<v Speaker 1>for people is to be very consistent. Do not have

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a chaotic, erratic eating schedule, because again, protein is an

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>essential macronutrient. I think that it is very important that

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>you have protein every day. You don't need carbs every day.

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>You can probably get away with not having fats every day,

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but dietary protein. If you are focused on protecting this

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>organ of longevity, then you want to be very consistent.

0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Now I get a lot of questions about fasting. Is

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 1>fasting good? Fasting is not good or bad? But if

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:21.479
<v Speaker 1>your primary goal is to protect your muscle, then eating

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 1>in an eight to nine hour window is where I

0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't really go beyond that, meaning I wouldn't fast for

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. But again, if you are younger, you

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 1>can get away with it. But if you know so,

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 1>My dad is seventy four, he lives in Ecuador, and

0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>he will not take transportation unless it is four hours

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>or less. So if he can walk there in four hours,

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.000
<v Speaker 1>which is why I never go visit him, I make

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 1>him come here, then he'll walk it. And why do

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I say that Because he's very interested in health and wellness.

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So in his mind, if he fasts, then he's doing

0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's creating hormesis and he's creating stress. And

1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Dad, you're seventy four. You shouldn't go twenty

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>four hours without eating food or without eating protein because

1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 1>your body is already struggling to keep that muscle on.

1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:16.720
<v Speaker 1>And is it okay to skip a meal here and there? Yes,

1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 1>But think about what is your structured plan and commit

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to it. You know, you don't need to do a

1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of things, but you do have to commit to

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<v Speaker 1>this area of your life so that you age well.

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<v Speaker 2>Does walking ten thousand steps today build muscle?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a this is a very hot topic. By

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the way, walking ten thousand steps a day is good

1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:40.000
<v Speaker 1>for you, and that would maintain our type one muscle

1:00:40.040 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 1>fibers type two muscle fibers, which is again when you

1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 1>see people just walking, you don't necessarily see them build muscle.

1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>The type two fibers. They do require resistance training. So

1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>will walking build and maintain those type two muscle fibers?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is walking great for you? Is it something that we

1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:02.720
<v Speaker 1>have to do? Yes, but we have to become very

1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:07.920
<v Speaker 1>intentional about building our body armor. It requires effort.

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<v Speaker 2>Do pilla is in yoga account of strength training.

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<v Speaker 1>They are in the strength training category and they also

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:19.520
<v Speaker 1>provide stretch for muscle. And it was really interesting the

1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:22.920
<v Speaker 1>study that I had mentioned earlier, there was also an

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<v Speaker 1>exercise intervention and by the way I misspoke it, their

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<v Speaker 1>carbohydrates were the meals were isochloric, but the protein is

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<v Speaker 1>what changed. In that study, they also added exercise and

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<v Speaker 1>the exercise was just this, and this is how easy

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It was five days a week of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of walking and two days a week of yoga.

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<v Speaker 1>Yoga involves body weight and resistance training, and it involves

1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:52.200
<v Speaker 1>stretched to the muscle, and those people were able to

1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:56.760
<v Speaker 1>maintain their lean body mass. It is not hard, but

1:01:56.840 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you do have to be committed and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>Is cardio killing people's muscle gains?

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:07.720
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good question. It depends, but a good

1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 1>training program has both. It has cardiovascular activity because they

1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:16.280
<v Speaker 1>all do different things. Cardiovascularctivity is great for mitochondria, great

1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:20.480
<v Speaker 1>for metabolism, great for maintaining this fatty acid, this fat

1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:24.120
<v Speaker 1>fatty acid oxidation, fat burning. You know, you want muscle

1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to be flexible at rest, you want muscle to burn

1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:33.000
<v Speaker 1>fat and during things like lifting or power type activity,

1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:35.720
<v Speaker 1>then you can switch to glucose. A lot of cardio

1:02:36.440 --> 1:02:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is good, but also lifting weights is critical because they

1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:45.440
<v Speaker 1>do two separate things. So I never want to be

1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:48.920
<v Speaker 1>so dogmatic where I discourage people from doing cardiovascular activity.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, if I think about muscles, impact, and exercise

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<v Speaker 1>and I think about it in three buckets, I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it as mass strength, and then I think about

1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it as mitochondrial and metabolic health, and cardiovascular activity can

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:08.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of fit in there as well, but also plumbing,

1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:13.200
<v Speaker 1>vasculature and blood flow. We recently published a study, and

1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:15.720
<v Speaker 1>this is to get all the guy's attention. Okay, ready,

1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:19.280
<v Speaker 1>So myself and my colleagues published a paper recently and

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<v Speaker 1>it showed that the more healthy muscle mass and better

1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:25.880
<v Speaker 1>strength you had, the greater your sexual function.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, I mean makes sense if.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not on board for having more healthy muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I don't know what's going to convince you. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>there are those two multiple aspects resistance training, cardiovascular activity,

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<v Speaker 1>high intensity interval. And I put this in the playbook

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<v Speaker 1>so people know it's called a playbook, not because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a work book and not because it's a dense, heavy book.

1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:53.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a playbook. It will show you exactly what you

1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:57.800
<v Speaker 1>need to do to be very discerning and avoid distraction

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<v Speaker 1>to take action on these things. High intensity interval training

1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:04.800
<v Speaker 1>is great if you are short on time, and it

1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:07.240
<v Speaker 1>can be where you're working at eighty five percent your

1:04:07.320 --> 1:04:10.760
<v Speaker 1>VOTWO max, so you're working hard and let's say you're

1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:14.320
<v Speaker 1>working for you can pick it forty sixty seconds and

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<v Speaker 1>then sixty seconds off. You do ten minutes of this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very effective at improving insulin sensitivity, which is important.

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<v Speaker 1>And also that muscle health.

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<v Speaker 2>How to hit workouts affect women's hormones? Is there any

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<v Speaker 2>correlation between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will say this. I'm going to say this

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<v Speaker 1>in kind of two ways. Skeletal muscle is very important

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<v Speaker 1>for fertility, especially when it relates to polycystico variant syndrome.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Polycystico varian syndrome. And there's a few types. There's metabolic

1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and then there's a you know, a brain type. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at metabolic, what you're really looking at

1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:06.080
<v Speaker 1>is twofold. It's insulin sensitivity, but also muscle health. And

1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:07.960
<v Speaker 1>on my podcast, and I actually learned this for the

1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:10.800
<v Speaker 1>first time. On my podcast, I interviewed one of her

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<v Speaker 1>name is doctor Melanie Creede, one of the world leading

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<v Speaker 1>experts in pcos. So there are ten studies on pcos

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<v Speaker 1>and GLP ones and she's written two of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting down with her in my podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Melanie, at what body fat percentage do we

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<v Speaker 1>know that people will affect fertility? You know who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get better? Does their body fat percentage need to

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<v Speaker 1>be twenty five or less? Or are they at more

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<v Speaker 1>risk of never being able to conceive if they're for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five or other or over? And I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>body fat percentage do people get better? And she said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, she looks at me, she goes, Gabrielle, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a body fat percentage, it's the intermuscular aud of

1:05:56.280 --> 1:06:00.440
<v Speaker 1>post tissue. It's the fat within the muscle percentage. The

1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:05.280
<v Speaker 1>lower the fat in the skeletal muscle, the greater likelihood

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<v Speaker 1>that we will be able to manage PCOS. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>I say that, because all activity helps with the health

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<v Speaker 1>of that muscle. High intensity interval training does it directly

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<v Speaker 1>affect hormones? Not in that way, but it directly affects

1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a woman's ability to conceive if she has PCOS. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>another aspect is female athletes that have hypothalamic amenorrhea, meaning

1:06:31.720 --> 1:06:34.680
<v Speaker 1>their brain and their ovaries are somewhat suppressed because they

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<v Speaker 1>are overtraining. If a woman is overtraining and let's say

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing tons of high intensity interval training or the

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<v Speaker 1>volume of training is over what her body can handle,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's say she's also under consuming calories, then this

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<v Speaker 1>will negatively impact her hormones.

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<v Speaker 2>But that must be like a really expence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think no. And we cannot discourage people

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid training because of mechanistic data, right, We have

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<v Speaker 1>to really think what do we see in clinical practice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, we look through about athletes here like people do, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the population that we're looking to. It's much

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<v Speaker 1>more important to have a healthy muscle tissue than it

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<v Speaker 1>is to think about training in extremes and if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same thing goes for men. The more healthy

1:07:25.480 --> 1:07:29.440
<v Speaker 1>muscle a guy has and the activities he engages to

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<v Speaker 1>have that the more healthyest sperm is going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>the more healthy his sexual function is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it going to affect him negatively? Now? So again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very careful. I'm very careful as to how we

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<v Speaker 1>approach it. It's all about the context.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any negative apart from that extreme? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>any negative impact of building muscle?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of one negative. In fact, your vibe

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<v Speaker 1>ability against all cause mortality, all cause disease, your ability

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<v Speaker 1>to survive will be greater the more muscle mass you have.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot say that for any other organ system. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an organ system and it's it is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that we have voluntary control over that we can actually

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<v Speaker 1>add to. You can't really add to your kidneys. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't really add to your thyroid or your lungs physical tissue.

1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:33.559
<v Speaker 1>You might be able to add physical tissue to your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to add too much. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very difficult to add too much physical

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<v Speaker 1>tissue through training. And I'm not talking about the extremes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you know, hormone use. And again

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<v Speaker 1>we are not talking about extremes. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>live long, and there are stated to support the stronger

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<v Speaker 1>you are in midlife, you have a two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half times greater chances of living to one hundred. If

1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:03.720
<v Speaker 1>you are in the weakest quartile, you have a much

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<v Speaker 1>higher likelihood of dying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when should people consider creatine in their diet?

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever they want?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you don't have to have a workout level, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And it's very difficult to eat enough creatine. So

1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:21.439
<v Speaker 1>creatine comes primarily in red meat. You're even if you

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<v Speaker 1>eat a ton, I think for one pound of red meat,

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<v Speaker 1>you might get half a gram of creatine. That's not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And the data, the data supports between three and five

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<v Speaker 1>grams of creatine for women, probably closer to five for

1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:41.880
<v Speaker 1>muscle and for men also closer to five. But for

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<v Speaker 1>brain health between ten and twelve grams of creating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also creatine is one of the OG supplements that's

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<v Speaker 1>been studied for decades, very safe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great to I didn't know it's impact on the

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<v Speaker 2>brain at all. So obviously you're into a supplement.

1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:03.479
<v Speaker 1>I love supplement, yes, but I'm very particular. I have

1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a handful of supplements that I love. Do you want

1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to hear them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Please.

1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Creatin is great. The older you are, the more benefit

1:10:10.720 --> 1:10:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you'll likely have from those higher amounts of creating. For

1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:18.519
<v Speaker 1>brain function, I think fish oil is really important, Omega

1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:21.920
<v Speaker 1>three fatty acids, there's good data to support for brain function,

1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and there might even be some extra benefit for women.

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<v Speaker 1>Eu Lithina is a very interesting compound and what it

1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:33.559
<v Speaker 1>is is a post biotics, so roughly forty percent of

1:10:33.560 --> 1:10:37.280
<v Speaker 1>people can't make it. And it comes from pomegranate, so

1:10:37.439 --> 1:10:40.880
<v Speaker 1>your body breaks down or the bacteria, the bugs in

1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:45.000
<v Speaker 1>your body break down pomegranate and one of the post

1:10:45.040 --> 1:10:47.920
<v Speaker 1>biotics within that. And it could be pomegranate, it could

1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:52.080
<v Speaker 1>be walnut. Your body requires this enzyme and somewhat of

1:10:52.080 --> 1:10:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a complicated process to get eurolithana and Euithina is a

1:10:56.000 --> 1:11:00.519
<v Speaker 1>compound that is produced in the gut or you can

1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:03.080
<v Speaker 1>take it. You know, again, only forty percent of people

1:11:03.200 --> 1:11:07.920
<v Speaker 1>can actually produce it in their gut. Affects mitochondrial health.

1:11:08.840 --> 1:11:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It helps with mitophagy, which is the cleaning out of

1:11:11.479 --> 1:11:14.960
<v Speaker 1>old mitochondria. But there's also randomized control trials and there's

1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>a ton of clinical data. The kind of of eu

1:11:19.520 --> 1:11:22.160
<v Speaker 1>lithinae I use is from a company called Timeline, because

1:11:22.160 --> 1:11:25.839
<v Speaker 1>they have randomized control trials. They have decades of research

1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that show this form of your lithinae improves endurance, strength

1:11:32.880 --> 1:11:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and mitochondrial health outside of exercise. So all of those

1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:39.800
<v Speaker 1>things that we were talking about with exercise. You combine

1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:44.760
<v Speaker 1>this with exercise, and it supports healthy mitochondrial function, which

1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:48.880
<v Speaker 1>again I very particular about the supplements that I use

1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:51.400
<v Speaker 1>because there's so many out there and you want to

1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:54.000
<v Speaker 1>have good data. Yeah, okay, have more for you, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Beta hydroxy buttery a keytone. It can preserve muscle mass,

1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:00.559
<v Speaker 1>or some data that it can preserve muscle mass, but

1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:04.439
<v Speaker 1>also incredible for brain function. And I think as people age,

1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know when women are going through perimenopause and

1:12:07.560 --> 1:12:09.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't quite know that they're going through it, their

1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:15.520
<v Speaker 1>brain function suffers. Key tones are amazing. Vitamin D, magnesium,

1:12:16.360 --> 1:12:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think that I've an approaching shake. I love

1:12:18.400 --> 1:12:21.360
<v Speaker 1>approaching shake, and that's it.

1:12:21.360 --> 1:12:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not that many. Yeah, it's not too bad. I've

1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:26.080
<v Speaker 2>seen a massive difference in my life since I started

1:12:26.439 --> 1:12:28.760
<v Speaker 2>consistently taking supplements. Everyon's always like, do you think it's

1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a placibo? Do you think this? And I'm like no,

1:12:31.360 --> 1:12:33.439
<v Speaker 2>because I'm just taking what I'm recommended, and so I

1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:35.880
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even know what the perceibo would do. I just

1:12:36.000 --> 1:12:38.759
<v Speaker 2>know that I don't get tired as much. My recovery

1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.639
<v Speaker 2>is great. I feel alert and present throughout the day.

1:12:41.680 --> 1:12:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I sleep well. You know. It's whereas there was a

1:12:45.040 --> 1:12:46.960
<v Speaker 2>point where even though I was sleeping well and working

1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.320
<v Speaker 2>on eating right, I was still feeling fatigued. I was

1:12:49.320 --> 1:12:52.400
<v Speaker 2>still feeling low energy. And supplements have made such a

1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:54.000
<v Speaker 2>big difference on that. So I'm a big fan of them.

1:12:54.120 --> 1:12:55.400
<v Speaker 1>It's been the biggest one for you.

1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Vimin D was huge for me and huge the Omega

1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:01.479
<v Speaker 2>threes were huge for me. Creating has been great for me,

1:13:01.680 --> 1:13:03.639
<v Speaker 2>like those those three have been game changes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, there are vitamin D receptors on skeletal muscle. Yes,

1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And when I was so, I worked in I did

1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:12.840
<v Speaker 1>my fellowship in nutritional sciences and geriatrics, and one of

1:13:12.880 --> 1:13:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the things that we would see is falls right, someone falls,

1:13:16.800 --> 1:13:20.519
<v Speaker 1>It can be devastating for people, and so we would

1:13:20.520 --> 1:13:24.200
<v Speaker 1>always test vitamin D and one of the working hypotheses

1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:27.000
<v Speaker 1>at the time was that the vitamin D receptors on

1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the muscles, if someone was deficient, it would contribute to

1:13:30.160 --> 1:13:32.120
<v Speaker 1>false I mean, I just thought that was my one.

1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's so scary. Is get older? Yes, it's

1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:37.400
<v Speaker 2>so scary. Yeah, it's And that's what I mean by

1:13:37.400 --> 1:13:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the recovery piece too, because I think everyone knows it.

1:13:41.040 --> 1:13:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Like now, if I roll my ankle, it's going to

1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:45.200
<v Speaker 2>take a bit longer if I'm not figuring it out

1:13:45.240 --> 1:13:46.840
<v Speaker 2>to recover than it did when you were a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>There's such a big rise of protein ice creams, protein cereal,

1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:09.160
<v Speaker 2>protein chips. Do those even count?

1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:13.559
<v Speaker 1>That's a really astute point. I would say, you don't

1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:17.000
<v Speaker 1>want just extra calories. And a better way to think

1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:20.680
<v Speaker 1>about things is how do we eat whole foods and

1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:24.040
<v Speaker 1>understand where we're getting our protein. So a high quality

1:14:24.040 --> 1:14:27.679
<v Speaker 1>protein source could be whey. Again, a lot of those

1:14:27.760 --> 1:14:30.640
<v Speaker 1>ice creams are coming from whey. Could it be a

1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:34.360
<v Speaker 1>rice pea blend or a soy protein. Could it be

1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:38.880
<v Speaker 1>from fish or chicken or eggs or dairy, And that's

1:14:38.960 --> 1:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of how I would bucket our protein. Yeah, and

1:14:41.960 --> 1:14:45.160
<v Speaker 1>then I think about carbohydrates, right, so you can also

1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:47.680
<v Speaker 1>get protein and rice and beans. But the reality is

1:14:48.080 --> 1:14:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a very high chloric load, and so we just

1:14:52.000 --> 1:14:55.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be very careful. But adding extra protein with

1:14:56.240 --> 1:15:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just extra calories, I think, is now we're just diluting message.

1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're going to have your carbohydrate, have

1:15:04.000 --> 1:15:07.000
<v Speaker 1>your carbohydrate, but what kind of quality, what kind of

1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:12.080
<v Speaker 1>source is that protein coming from? And again it confuses

1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:16.040
<v Speaker 1>people because now it's almost it's like that next shiny object.

1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Humans are predictable, and I think if we bring into

1:15:20.080 --> 1:15:24.960
<v Speaker 1>perspective our predictability, we love novelty. Oh my gosh, this

1:15:25.040 --> 1:15:27.639
<v Speaker 1>is so novel. There is protein ice cream, which, by

1:15:27.640 --> 1:15:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the way, I love the idea of protein ice cream.

1:15:30.400 --> 1:15:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I actually I have a recipe for protein ice cream

1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>in my book, but it comes from away protein shake.

1:15:38.120 --> 1:15:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. But I don't need chips with protein. I

1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:45.320
<v Speaker 1>don't need protein in my ketchup. I just, man, I'm

1:15:45.360 --> 1:15:48.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to cut back as it is, and that is

1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:52.160
<v Speaker 1>really important that we have to recognize that we are

1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:55.680
<v Speaker 1>chasing novelty. And you know, as I've been thinking about this,

1:15:55.720 --> 1:15:58.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot. You know, how did we get so off base?

1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And you bring up a good point. You know, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of the Lucky diet? I think this

1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is like nineteen twenty or nineteen forty. Of course you

1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:11.800
<v Speaker 1>haven't because it's terrible. It's smoking lucky cigarettes. Lucky cigarettes

1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:17.280
<v Speaker 1>was a diet plan that people recommended to lose weight.

1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:19.800
<v Speaker 1>And then, of course we've all heard of fen fen.

1:16:19.880 --> 1:16:23.599
<v Speaker 1>There were amphetamines, and then there's the cabbage soup diet

1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and the grapefruit diet, and then the wine and egg diet.

1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of that? I had never heard

1:16:28.280 --> 1:16:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of that one. It's two eggs and a glass of

1:16:31.000 --> 1:16:35.800
<v Speaker 1>wine for every meal. What it's bananas with eggs? I

1:16:35.840 --> 1:16:37.840
<v Speaker 1>mean eggs, right, But like you pair when you go

1:16:37.840 --> 1:16:40.919
<v Speaker 1>to school, you pair that with wine. My whole point

1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is that we are primed to chase novelty, but we

1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:48.479
<v Speaker 1>already have innovation. In this podcast, you and I have

1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:53.439
<v Speaker 1>talked about foundational scientific principles that we can count on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I think about the biological drive for protein,

1:16:58.560 --> 1:17:01.680
<v Speaker 1>humans have a biological drive. Deed, about twenty percent of

1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:04.639
<v Speaker 1>our diet in protein. You know, decades ago it was higher,

1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:09.400
<v Speaker 1>but we have again a biological drive for these amino acids.

1:17:09.920 --> 1:17:13.639
<v Speaker 1>And when we begin to dilute our food source, which

1:17:13.720 --> 1:17:16.280
<v Speaker 1>all these processed food sources, you know, I consider this

1:17:16.320 --> 1:17:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a dilution of dietary protein. We feed on these highly

1:17:21.160 --> 1:17:25.320
<v Speaker 1>processed foods to get our amino acids. But look at

1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:29.519
<v Speaker 1>when we are aware of something we can recognize. Hey man,

1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:31.720
<v Speaker 1>am I falling for that? Or do I need to

1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:35.559
<v Speaker 1>be discerning? Because at the bottom rung of health and

1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>wellness is the ability to discern good information from not

1:17:40.840 --> 1:17:46.120
<v Speaker 1>good information, right choice, and right action. And again, all

1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you asked me simply was protein ice cream. And now

1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I've gone on this tangent lot about novelty, and I

1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:55.559
<v Speaker 1>want to just bring this back, is that we already

1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:59.519
<v Speaker 1>have innovation. We have good science and innovation to know

1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that we can create a diet based on protein because

1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:07.599
<v Speaker 1>that protects muscle, helps as we age, doesn't matter if

1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:10.679
<v Speaker 1>it's plant or animal, And this is how we structure it. Yeah,

1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and then your carbohydrates or your fat, it's your choice.

1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:18.360
<v Speaker 1>But if we are still out there chasing the next thing,

1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it is going to further divert our attention, yes, from

1:18:22.920 --> 1:18:25.200
<v Speaker 1>doing and having that next right meal.

1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, to me, it's just the manufacturers trying to

1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:33.360
<v Speaker 2>stay relevant to the healthy consumer. So they see that

1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:36.599
<v Speaker 2>people are becoming healthier or wanting to skew this way,

1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:39.400
<v Speaker 2>and they just want to keep you eating processed foods,

1:18:39.400 --> 1:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and they'll throw the word protein on it. They'll throw

1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:43.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever word they want on it, the low fat, the

1:18:43.880 --> 1:18:46.360
<v Speaker 2>less fat, the whatever, so that you go and buy

1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:48.040
<v Speaker 2>it and it makes you feel, oh, yeah, great, I'm

1:18:48.080 --> 1:18:48.559
<v Speaker 2>being healthy.

1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You're still eating something fried, You're still adding the extra calories.

1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:55.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not a natural source. It's still highly protested, it's

1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:57.200
<v Speaker 2>packaged all the rest of it.

1:18:57.200 --> 1:18:59.679
<v Speaker 1>It's marketed. Well, yeah it is, and can I share

1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with you? Okay, So, whole foods are considered a commodity.

1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:09.920
<v Speaker 1>That is almonds, that's dairy, that's beef, that's chicken, any

1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:15.360
<v Speaker 1>whole food. Soy, they are under this what's called the USDA,

1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and they have checkof so a certain amount of the

1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:23.160
<v Speaker 1>budget goes towards marketing. But because they are regulated by

1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the USDA, almonds or beef or milk cannot say they

1:19:30.160 --> 1:19:34.200
<v Speaker 1>are a better source of protein from a highly processed

1:19:34.560 --> 1:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>protein source in chips, whereas this chip could say this

1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is the best source of protein ever, or they could

1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:43.439
<v Speaker 1>say whatever they want as long as they don't make

1:19:43.479 --> 1:19:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a disease claim. They could say it's a better source

1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.559
<v Speaker 1>of protein for you. Then I don't know beef, but

1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:56.559
<v Speaker 1>beef or any commodity cannot defend itself. And so we

1:19:56.640 --> 1:20:00.920
<v Speaker 1>have to recognize that the total marketing budget for these commodities,

1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:03.599
<v Speaker 1>these whole foods wrought last time I checked with seven

1:20:03.680 --> 1:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand total collectively, Whereas one company like

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<v Speaker 1>PepsiCo that you know owns a bunch of others and

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of processed foods that can slap protein

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<v Speaker 1>on the label, has a marketing budget of almost two

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars and they are allowed because it's regulated under

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<v Speaker 1>this because it's a processed food under a different jurisdiction,

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<v Speaker 1>can make claims that whole foods can't. Whoa and you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine for the consumer, what is a consumer to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The consumer is getting a story that you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole food is bad for you, eat this process one instead,

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<v Speaker 1>when at the end of the day, it's a marketing

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<v Speaker 1>budget that is allowed to have flexibility in the story

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<v Speaker 1>that is being promoted.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, seven hundred thousand versus two billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on. And also, you know milk can't be disparaging

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<v Speaker 1>against almond juice, whereas milk is a highly bioavailable form

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<v Speaker 1>of calcium vitamin you know, has vitamin dane. It great

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<v Speaker 1>for kids and bones versus say oat milk. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>not it's who it affects. It affects our children. The

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<v Speaker 1>messaging affects our children. And again, humans are very good

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<v Speaker 1>at locking onto something they hear. They hear and it

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<v Speaker 1>creates a cognitive bias for their life decades later. And

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were chatting before that it's so much

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<v Speaker 1>easier to build good habits when you were.

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<v Speaker 3>Young, Yeah, absolutely, then spend.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty years trying to undo bad habits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I loved, I was saying to Gabriel. She showed

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<v Speaker 2>me this wonderful video of a husband doing push ups

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<v Speaker 2>with that son and he's four years old, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just watching that, going, that's it. That's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do what their parents do at that age. They see

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<v Speaker 2>he sees his dad working out, I sees his mom

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<v Speaker 2>working out. That's what he wants to do. And there

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<v Speaker 2>he is doing pushups and showing his muscles and in

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<v Speaker 2>a really cute, adorable way that that isn't like he's

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<v Speaker 2>addicted to it or that he's being forced to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, just this really sweet. And I look at

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<v Speaker 2>that and go, yeah, I was never exposed to that

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, and so it took me intol my thirties

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<v Speaker 2>to really take control of my health. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a difference between a reminder and your kids watching

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<v Speaker 2>you do it. So everyone's parents can say you should

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<v Speaker 2>be healthy, you should do this, but like when you

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<v Speaker 2>see your parents work out and you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>it with them, there's something beautiful of it and.

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<v Speaker 1>It becomes a way of life. Yeah, my kids love

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<v Speaker 1>to lift. I have my kettlebells and they have their kettlebells, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hilarious. Me cold plunge and my son likes

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<v Speaker 1>to cold plunge. I mean he like jumps in and out.

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<v Speaker 1>But he and you ask him, I it's called in

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<v Speaker 1>our colplund is set at fifty degrees so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that cold. And he jumps in, dunks his body and

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<v Speaker 1>jumps out and we're like, is that cold than My

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<v Speaker 1>son's name is Leonidas. He's like, nope, not call Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it is. It's we're building resilient humans. And

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<v Speaker 1>it does start with the messages that we send ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that again, we're talking about protein and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about muscle, and we're talking about them almost

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<v Speaker 1>disembodied from actually who we are as humans. And this

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<v Speaker 1>muscle centric message is not about working out, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>building strong, more resilient humans. And it's not just doing

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<v Speaker 1>it in your mind, and it's not just doing in

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<v Speaker 1>your body, but this bi directional relationship of becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>more capable human because we need more of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I love that doctor Gabriell lyon the books

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<v Speaker 2>called the Forever Strong Playbook. Truly, what a masterclass. You

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<v Speaker 2>gave me. So many breakthroughs today and connections that I've

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<v Speaker 2>never heard before, and I'm so thankful to those because

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone who's going to listen today is going

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<v Speaker 2>to feel like they've found that one piece of insight

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<v Speaker 2>that they were looking for for that breakthrough to help

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<v Speaker 2>them on their health journey. And I think you've really

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<v Speaker 2>shown us how building muscle isn't just about the esthetics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just about you know, how you look and

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel, and it's a real resistance toward diseases,

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<v Speaker 2>real protection for longevity. It's at the heart of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much. We end every episode of

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<v Speaker 2>On Purpose with a final five. These questions have to

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<v Speaker 2>be answered in one word to one sentence maximum.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then I want to give you something before we

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<v Speaker 1>acd Please, there is an ethos to this playbook, and

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<v Speaker 1>an ethos is a collective reason for a way of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I just want to leave you

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<v Speaker 1>with before my five questions, because if that's how we

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<v Speaker 1>end the show, then aging is inevitable and muscle is

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<v Speaker 1>the organ of longevity. Weakness is not inevitable. Strength is

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<v Speaker 1>not a luxury, It's a responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>What said absolutely great, Totally couldn't agree more. These are

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<v Speaker 2>your final five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I'm ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number one, what is the best health advice you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard or received?

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<v Speaker 1>Train like your life depends on it, because it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number two, what is the worst health advice you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard or received?

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<v Speaker 1>Take it easy?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, comfort doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>Have another bubble bath when what you really need is

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<v Speaker 1>hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to think that I used to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of those people that used to feel I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>enough energy to work out. And a lot of my

1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:37.400
<v Speaker 2>friends are in that bucket too, where you're so tired,

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<v Speaker 2>you had a long day, you're working hard, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>always say I don't have enough energy to exercise, only

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<v Speaker 2>to realize that exercise gave me so much more energy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I used to say that all the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to be like, yeah, of course you've got time

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<v Speaker 2>to exercise, that you've got energy to exercise, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, wait a minute. As soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I start exercising, so much more energy. So much so

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<v Speaker 2>I fully agree with that great answer a question three,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do about that stubborn belly fat?

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<v Speaker 1>For belly fat, you have to control your nutrition, prioritize protein,

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<v Speaker 1>and do some kind of training. It's not as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as we think.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number four. Something you used to believe was true

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<v Speaker 2>about health, but you don't anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a good one, and this is just for

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<v Speaker 1>you and your audience. Okay. I used to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>building muscle could only be done with animal proteins, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can be done with all types of protein, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you're getting enough.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great to know. I'm plum based. Yeah, that it

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<v Speaker 2>helps a lot and I feel that way. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>that way. It's we found the right sources and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes the difference. Fifth and final question, we asked this

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<v Speaker 2>every guest who's ever been on the show. If you

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<v Speaker 2>could create one law that everyone in the world had

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<v Speaker 2>to follow, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>Be strong? You have to be strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's such a to really make that connection

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone today that muscle strength and strength is necessary

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<v Speaker 2>for longevity and to beat disease. That through line, because

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<v Speaker 2>I still think we think of muscle as visual strength. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we think of muscle as someone who looks muscular. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't think about muscle as every deep type of muscle

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<v Speaker 2>you've talked to us today about you know that's within

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<v Speaker 2>our body that you don't even.

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<v Speaker 1>See, and it's under our control.

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<v Speaker 2>The book is called The Forever Strong Playbook, a six

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<v Speaker 2>week science based plan to sharpen your mind, strengthen your body,

1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and get healthy at any age. Go and grab your

1:27:33.840 --> 1:27:37.679
<v Speaker 2>copy by New York Times bestselling author doctor Gabrielle Lyon Gabrielle,

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<v Speaker 2>It's been such a joy having here today. I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>so much. I know this is going to be huge

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<v Speaker 2>for our community. I'm so grateful to meet you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you'll be back on the show very very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>If this year you're trying to live longer, live happier,

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<v Speaker 2>live healthier, go and check out my conversation with the

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<v Speaker 2>world's biggest longevity doctor, Peter Attia on how to slow

1:27:59.000 --> 1:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>down aging and why your emotional health is directly impacting

1:28:03.640 --> 1:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>your physical health. Acknowledge that there is surprisingly little known

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<v Speaker 2>about the relationship between nutrition and health, and people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be shocked to hear that, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>most people think the exact opposite.