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Speaker 1: in front of a leading Lions in this way, I
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Speaker 2: want to answer any questions like that. Sixty one yards?
Speaker 2: What's Sunday stroll for? Justin Field?
Speaker 1: Ye Bears et Cetera with the voices of the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears Jeff Joniac And when you start talking about wins
Speaker 1: and losses and why or how they occur, you gotta
Speaker 1: talk about opportunities, the ones a team takes advantage of
Speaker 1: and the ones they don't. Every snap really does matter.
Speaker 1: We're going to discuss all that coming up today in
Speaker 1: episode seventeen of The Bears et Cetera podcast with Super
Speaker 1: Bowl winning Bear Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff Jonahac. Coming up
Speaker 1: each week we'll talk with Matt eber Flush. We'll hear
Speaker 1: from him later on. Thanks as always to producers Dan Brilly,
Speaker 1: Jordan tread Up, and Katie Tuber. Tom. How are you feeling, buddy?
Speaker 1: How you feeling about the game. I know how you're feeling.
Speaker 1: I know you're zero and two doesn't feel good, right?
Speaker 1: Now no.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think when you play football and
Speaker 3: you invest your whole life in it, you always have
Speaker 3: to watch a game to enjoy the game. But then
Speaker 3: after you go out and study football, you have to
Speaker 3: see how corrections can be made.
Speaker 2: Jeff. In the life of me playing football.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's ever been a game where it
Speaker 3: hasn't been a correction that's been able to be made,
Speaker 3: no matter how good the play is or how bad
Speaker 3: the play is. So I think that's the process that
Speaker 3: you have to go through at this point. You have
Speaker 3: to keep the assistant coaches in the positive frame of
Speaker 3: mind as they coach the players through tape, and you
Speaker 3: have to take them out in the field and try
Speaker 3: to process the information in an athletic aggressive way.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven to seventeen to the final, the game was
Speaker 1: there to be won throughout the course of the day
Speaker 1: despite some of the problems that they experienced in being
Speaker 1: consistent throughout the day. And there are likely in any game,
Speaker 1: no matter what week, five or six plays on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball that in the end are the
Speaker 1: reason for the outcome, and I think we can pinpoint
Speaker 1: all of those in this particular game. We'll hear from
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflu's doing the same. It's the plays you make
Speaker 1: in the place, don't make tom And so let's start
Speaker 1: with the positives and the plays they did make against
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. And I'm going to start on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and certainly the connection with DJ
Speaker 1: Moore and Chase Claypool, and then the justin fields touchdown
Speaker 1: our places to start. Twenty nine yard run by Roshawn Johnson,
Speaker 1: a good run by Khalil Herbert, a couple of successful screens,
Speaker 1: and therefore those are the positives. What do you think
Speaker 1: if I missed anything?
Speaker 2: No, you know, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, using cole Kmet Moore as a target,
Speaker 3: you know, like we talked about it on first down,
Speaker 3: to make yourself in a more makeable second, third down,
Speaker 3: the continuous targeting of a guy like Chase Claypool. Don't
Speaker 3: forget about him just because of the criticism he took
Speaker 3: from the public after week one. And I think DJ
Speaker 3: Moore deserves more opportunities.
Speaker 2: And I think he's.
Speaker 3: A type of guy that should be targeted ten times
Speaker 3: a week. And I do think that there's a courses
Speaker 3: in the game that you have to revisit the plays
Speaker 3: that are successful early in the game. You know, Jeff,
Speaker 3: the game that we did against the New England Patriots
Speaker 3: years ago, when Tom Brady was really successful against the Bears,
Speaker 3: he threw the same play to the same player for
Speaker 3: eleven completions. And so I think the Bears are capable
Speaker 3: of that. If you find a play that Justin is
Speaker 3: more than comfortable with where he can either target his
Speaker 3: wide receiver downfield or pull the ball and go and
Speaker 3: put the defense in a negative position, I think you
Speaker 3: have to take advantage of it more than once. But
Speaker 3: like you're talking about, I think the Bears are running
Speaker 3: screens very well. I think Roshan Johnson has explosiveness at
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage that if you give him an
Speaker 3: outside crease he's got the speed to take it field
Speaker 3: and the willingness to low his shoulder against the third
Speaker 3: level to have extra yards attached to it. And that's
Speaker 3: the one thing that encourages me about Khalil Herbert. He's
Speaker 3: not an easy tackle, so when you have the opportunities
Speaker 3: for him to carry the ball, you know, you're always
Speaker 3: talking about getting the extra two or three that's important
Speaker 3: to this offense.
Speaker 1: So now the consistency of that and knowing what you're
Speaker 1: seeing and trusting what you see and just making a play.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Darnell Mooney here in a second.
Speaker 1: Darnell made a great point the discussion about justin fields
Speaker 1: and throwing guys open or finding open receivers instead of
Speaker 1: taking a sack or just getting rid of the ball. Quicker,
Speaker 1: you know, it's all about just Hey, it's on us,
Speaker 1: Mooney said, it's on us. Claypole, me, Dj. The guys
Speaker 1: give it, give us a shot, trust us to make
Speaker 1: the play, and then it's on us. I love that comment.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear about it in a second. But how
Speaker 1: did you process that?
Speaker 2: I think it's a great comment, Jeff.
Speaker 3: You know, I think when you the whole team gets
Speaker 3: to together, you know, seven on seven and the playmakers
Speaker 3: of the team. You know, justin if it's third and thirteen,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to throw a thirteen yard completion. If
Speaker 3: he throws an eight yard completion with momentum or eleven
Speaker 3: yard completion to a guy like DJ Moore, that's a
Speaker 3: difficult tackle.
Speaker 2: You have the opportunity to turn that into a first down.
Speaker 3: So sometimes I think when they get themselves into these
Speaker 3: third and long scenarios, Justin puts so much on himself
Speaker 3: to be the reason the play succeeds. I think that's
Speaker 3: a little unfair to him. I think the offensive line
Speaker 3: is getting to know each other a little bit better,
Speaker 3: so I think they can use multiple protections during the
Speaker 3: course of a game, no matter what front they're seeing.
Speaker 3: So when Justin feels comfortable with the protection that he's
Speaker 3: called in the huddle, I think that he has to
Speaker 3: put that onus, like Darnell Mooney says, on the receivers
Speaker 3: and allow them to make the play.
Speaker 1: Here's what Mooney said. It had us on Monday.
Speaker 4: That's something that we feel that we're capable of doing.
Speaker 4: It starts to, just like I said, putting the ball
Speaker 4: in the playmaker's hands. Put the ball in DJ's hands.
Speaker 4: The first couple of plays you see gets us down
Speaker 4: down to the end zone pretty fast. And just like
Speaker 4: I said, allowing us to be accountable, allowing us to
Speaker 4: make those plays or don't make those plays and blame
Speaker 4: it on us, We'll take the blank for sure.
Speaker 5: So just allowing us to be accountable for those.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, money thinks he's going to be Okay,
Speaker 1: Tom bruise on the knee.
Speaker 3: Put on knee pads, de emphasize the importance of knee
Speaker 3: pads in college football game. Now all these kids come
Speaker 3: out of college and they're we're basically wearing shorts. When
Speaker 3: you're in the NFL, they're emphasizing all tacklers to go
Speaker 3: lower on the body because they're staying away from the head.
Speaker 3: Now you have these guys that have little to know
Speaker 3: knee pads on, and when you do get a shoulder pad,
Speaker 3: you get a helmet, you fall on a hard piece
Speaker 3: of the turf, then you can expose.
Speaker 2: That possibility to happen.
Speaker 3: So I just wish that all and I'm not and
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to Darnell. I'm talking to all football
Speaker 3: players on every level about protecting your knees.
Speaker 1: And then money on If field should run more, that
Speaker 1: was a question after four attempts in three yards.
Speaker 5: You can't really say all those things.
Speaker 4: I think last year you didn't really think he was
Speaker 4: doing that until we kind of changed things to make
Speaker 4: it fit for our offense within what we had. So
Speaker 4: we're still kind of trying to figure out what we
Speaker 4: what we have what's where we're good at And you
Speaker 4: didn't think he would just run the ball until probably
Speaker 4: like a couple of weeks in the season where you're understanding,
Speaker 4: like this works for us, so we're going to continue
Speaker 4: to do that. So we're still trying to figure out
Speaker 4: what works for us. And I mean it's not it's
Speaker 4: not too soon, not too late or whatever to figure
Speaker 4: those things out. Obviously, we don't want to be going
Speaker 4: to being if we're tuning over, we're not really talking
Speaker 4: about like what works, and we're probably still trying to
Speaker 4: figure out what works.
Speaker 5: But we're still trying to figure those things out.
Speaker 1: He brings up a great point. It took until the
Speaker 1: middle of the season got to feel comfortable doing it.
Speaker 1: I did expect a little bit more yesterday. Got to
Speaker 1: give credit to the defense though the end state home.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for it, so they weren't crashing down on
Speaker 1: our po.
Speaker 2: So how do you change that?
Speaker 3: I think the Bears have not used enough moving pockets,
Speaker 3: and whether it's naked bootlegs, bootlegs with protection, if it's
Speaker 3: role protection, if it's waggle, which is kind of a
Speaker 3: straight dropback, and then you meander off to the right,
Speaker 3: or the left. If Justin has those types of protections
Speaker 3: and passes called as soon as he rolls out to
Speaker 3: the side and he sees his targets covered, it gives
Speaker 3: him more of an opportunity to run a field against
Speaker 3: less bodies. If you try to keep him in the
Speaker 3: pocket and run from inside the pocket.
Speaker 2: You're going to run towards danger.
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Speaker 1: the Bears, Etc. Podcast. We'll get into the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball after we listen to head coach Matti Reflucing,
Speaker 1: our weekly conversation with the Bears Boss. Well, welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Bears Et Cetera Podcast. Matt, Let's start in
Speaker 1: because last night on the Bears Game Night Live show,
Speaker 1: one of my featured tapes was talking about opportunity. You
Speaker 1: think only every snap matters in the playoffs, like that's
Speaker 1: when the intent every stamp matters, But in reality, every
Speaker 1: snap matters in the NFL, no matter of the season,
Speaker 1: when opportunity knocks, you got to open the door and
Speaker 1: you got to kick it down. And there were so
Speaker 1: many opportunities.
Speaker 6: I started out the team meeting with this morning, you know,
Speaker 6: and talking about opportunity. I had a lot of the
Speaker 6: plays on there, you know, so you know, the Brisker interception,
Speaker 6: you know, the you know, the cost fumble that we had.
Speaker 6: We had caused a few fumbles, the sack opportunities that
Speaker 6: we that we need to finish those, and those are
Speaker 6: all opportunities to put the guys behind a six set
Speaker 6: a short field for our offense, you know, And that's
Speaker 6: winning football.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: When we blocked the kick that we are line, excellent job,
Speaker 6: fifty yard line, and then we need to seize the
Speaker 6: opportunity there for a field goal or at least a touchdown.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: So those I showed all those plays in the team
Speaker 6: meeting today, you know. And then I said, I also
Speaker 6: showed them what we did well. You know, I know,
Speaker 6: we had some opportunities that we didn't take care of
Speaker 6: and that would have swung the game for sure, But
Speaker 6: I also showed them what we did well. I showed
Speaker 6: them the explosive plays on the on the on the
Speaker 6: two touchdown drives, those were excellent. I showed the defense
Speaker 6: of the stops they made to keep us in the
Speaker 6: game in the second half and certainly at the in
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter to get our get the ball back
Speaker 6: for our offense to go for the go ahead score.
Speaker 6: And uh, you know, so those are all things we
Speaker 6: did well. You know a lot of good plays were
Speaker 6: made out there. But again, seizing those opportunities is what
Speaker 6: what wins and loses games and and we have to
Speaker 6: take care of that.
Speaker 1: And that goes for quarterback justin fields as well. I
Speaker 1: think you'd agree there were some situations where they were
Speaker 1: open receivers. He held on the wall, maybe too long,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't fire, got hit, sack, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: Those are opportunities you got to seize.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he would agree with that one hundred percent, you know,
Speaker 6: And you know, he's got to do a good job of,
Speaker 6: you know, delivering the ball on time, and he's been
Speaker 6: doing that and he's doing it more consistent, but we
Speaker 6: just need more consistency of that. You're seeing, you're seeing
Speaker 6: an advancement from year one to year two in the system.
Speaker 6: You're seeing flashes of that. Now, we just need to
Speaker 6: see more consistency with that. And when he feels that
Speaker 6: pressure in his pocket presence, you know, just get rid
Speaker 6: of the ball, you know, throw it at the guy's feet,
Speaker 6: at Herbert's feet or whatever that might be. And you know,
Speaker 6: let's not take those sacks. You know, we can we
Speaker 6: can minimize you know, the losses there a little bit better.
Speaker 6: And he knows that.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because as a public speaker, when I do
Speaker 1: big events or whatever, I'm always looking at the eyes
Speaker 1: of the people. Okay, are they hearing what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Are they reacting in a certain way? So when you
Speaker 1: show those clips of the opportunities missed, do you see
Speaker 1: the heads going? Do you see do you see it
Speaker 1: in your players? And they say, oh my gosh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously they know it. They know it deep
Speaker 1: down in their heart when it happens, like, you know,
Speaker 1: gotta gotta get that.
Speaker 6: But do you see yeah, oh yeah, those guys are
Speaker 6: you know, they're workers and they believe in each other,
Speaker 6: you know, and they have a relationship with each other.
Speaker 6: They love each other. So those players are tight and
Speaker 6: they want to do it for each other, you know,
Speaker 6: those opportunities and see those opportunities. And I showed the
Speaker 6: multitude of players you know, in there, so it could
Speaker 6: have been the offensive line, receiver, quarterback, you know, defensive line.
Speaker 6: All the opportunities that we did have and that we
Speaker 6: can take advantage of. And it's our job to see
Speaker 6: those opportunities.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I thought it's important to bring up the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, sudden change is big in the league obviously
Speaker 1: after turnovers, how a defense responds or how an offense
Speaker 1: responds with sudden change for defense, and when you talk
Speaker 1: about injuries, you know, you lose your two safeties for
Speaker 1: a part of that game. And young guys come in,
Speaker 1: guys not with a lot of experience. But Quindel Johnson,
Speaker 1: the rookie out of Memphis, got amnt of waivers from
Speaker 1: the Rams. Elijah Hicks has had plenty of playing time,
Speaker 1: but you know, thrown in there in the heat. And
Speaker 1: Greg Stroman, he's been on the roster, he's a veteran.
Speaker 1: But how did those three guysular handle their duties yesterday
Speaker 1: with that sudden change of an injury or a situation.
Speaker 2: I thought, well, you.
Speaker 6: Know, they were prepared, and that's a really a credit
Speaker 6: to those players and also their coaches, you know. You know,
Speaker 6: that's Andre Curtis, our safeties coach, you know, for the
Speaker 6: coaches those two safeties, and he did a nice stob
Speaker 6: with preparing those guys. And also David Overstreet coaches our Nichols,
Speaker 6: you know, so he was he's Stroman, you know, and
Speaker 6: he does a good job with him too. And those
Speaker 6: guys played solid. They were in there, they did what
Speaker 6: they were supposed to do, and they had a solid
Speaker 6: game for us. And you're gonna need that when you
Speaker 6: have injury, you know. And some of this was you know,
Speaker 6: heat related or injury, but the guys did a nice
Speaker 6: job coming in and stepping in.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk to what was the defensive coordinator yesterday,
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus. Overall, I thought there were some really good
Speaker 1: things stopping the run game, Gervon Dexter, making a couple
Speaker 1: of flash plays he was thrown aside guys and making
Speaker 1: plays and then the overall pressure didn't always finish, But
Speaker 1: were you pleased with how you guys and and stopping
Speaker 1: them on drives with short field goals that was important
Speaker 1: to keep the game still in reach for the Bears.
Speaker 1: Throughout almost the entire sixty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought they guys played played well. You know,
Speaker 6: they played well at some at points. You know, at
Speaker 6: points we can certainly improve. We know that, you know,
Speaker 6: certainly on the on the sacks and the takeaways. We
Speaker 6: got to get those numbers right. Third out numbers we
Speaker 6: got to get right. So you know, we're gonna have
Speaker 6: some focus areas on our defensive team this week and
Speaker 6: those will be what we focus on.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Kyler Gordon went through it last season. Also, Trakwon Brisker
Speaker 1: goes through it last season. Rookie defensive backs Tyreek Stevenson
Speaker 1: knows he's going to have a target on his chest.
Speaker 1: There's no way around it. We know he's tough minded,
Speaker 1: he invites it, he's good, he forgets. But you know
Speaker 1: now that you're knee deep in it and he faces
Speaker 1: a great receiver like Mike Evans this week, how do
Speaker 1: you evaluate where he's at and how do you monitor
Speaker 1: that as you go through practice this week?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know he's in a good spot. You know,
Speaker 6: he's in a good spot mentally. You know, just a
Speaker 6: couple little tech things. You know, John Hope coaches our
Speaker 6: corners and he does an awesome job, and he'll get
Speaker 6: him right. You know, he's been a coach for a
Speaker 6: long time and uh, you know, he's had rookies before
Speaker 6: and developed those guys into really good players. So you know,
Speaker 6: we expect the same about of Tyreek, you know. And
Speaker 6: the biggest thing for him is that he has to learn.
Speaker 6: It's a learning experience. This first year. He's gonna learn
Speaker 6: a ton with the different skill sets that he has
Speaker 6: to cover, you know, and you know, Mike's Mike's a
Speaker 6: unique skill set, you know, because he's long, he's fast,
Speaker 6: you know, and he can get behind people and uh,
Speaker 6: you know that's the one thing that he's good at.
Speaker 6: And so he'll learn from that and move forward and
Speaker 6: uh and prove of it.
Speaker 1: We know that offensive line chemistry and playing together is significant.
Speaker 1: It's it's as long as the NFL has been around.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I believe there were like almost nearly a dozen starting
Speaker 1: combinations last year. I can't remember the exact number, and again,
Speaker 1: the intended five won't be available probably until week six.
Speaker 1: How is that impacting the offense right now? Because it's
Speaker 1: not the same vibe every time.
Speaker 6: You know, there's certainly an impact for sure, you know,
Speaker 6: Nate was you know, for personal reasons, wasn't there, you know, obviously,
Speaker 6: Tevin and you know, so you're you're moving guys around
Speaker 6: a little bit. But you know, for the most part,
Speaker 6: you know, the guys did a solid job yesterday, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, in protection, you know, it seemed like they're
Speaker 6: you know, they did a good job there for sure.
Speaker 6: But again, we got to run the ball better. We
Speaker 6: got to do a good job in protection. And the
Speaker 6: guys there out there are going to be the guys
Speaker 6: who were playing with. So Simo does a good job
Speaker 6: coaching those guys and they're they're ready to go, and
Speaker 6: you know, he's got to do a good job of
Speaker 6: stepping up there and making your opportunity count.
Speaker 1: In a backle like Roshan Gent, it doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: the back if they rip off a big run excites
Speaker 1: the team twenty nine yards. Do you ever feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's feed the beast a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, he did, he did a
Speaker 6: really nice job. I thought Herbert had some good runs
Speaker 6: yesterday too. You know, he had some really good runs.
Speaker 6: Make some guys miss you know at the point of attack,
Speaker 6: you know, to keep the play alive. And I think
Speaker 6: both those guys are really you know, starting to move up,
Speaker 6: you know, and we just got to do a good
Speaker 6: job of putting them in opportunities so they can be successful.
Speaker 1: We could talk a long time, You're out of time,
Speaker 1: So let's look at Kansas City, one of the great
Speaker 1: stadiums in the NFL to enjoy game as a fan,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure for a player to play in it.
Speaker 1: What are we facing here with the big red wave
Speaker 1: of this defending world champs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, just you know, a lot of skill.
Speaker 6: You know, their skill on both sides is really good.
Speaker 6: You know. Defensively, they they like the pressure, you know,
Speaker 6: they're a big pressure team and they got some good
Speaker 6: players there.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be different kind of pressure too, right than balls. Yes,
Speaker 1: it'll be different kind.
Speaker 6: It'll be different. There'll be some all outmax pressures and
Speaker 6: different things. And he'll create some new things. He has
Speaker 6: the designer blitzeres that he does every different every week,
Speaker 6: which are new, so he always does those things, you know.
Speaker 6: And then offensively, you know, Andy does a heck of
Speaker 6: a job, you know, scheming up different ways to get
Speaker 6: guys open, get his skill open. So you know, they
Speaker 6: did a nice stop running the ball yesterday, you know,
Speaker 6: in terms of their average, you know, and they really
Speaker 6: were you know, I know they had a hard fought
Speaker 6: battle yesterday, you know against Jacksonville, and I watched that
Speaker 6: game last night. But you know it's a you know,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a big challenge for us.
Speaker 1: Good luck this week. Thank you. Obviously agrees very much
Speaker 1: so with with some of the things you brought up
Speaker 1: regarding fields and then just the comfort of of calling
Speaker 1: defensive place. He was pleased with the way certain aspects
Speaker 1: of the defensive performance was done. Certainly defending the run.
Speaker 1: They certainly play the linebackers demand Edmunds and t J.
Speaker 1: Edwards combined for twenty eight tackles. He also addressed obviously
Speaker 1: the missed opportunities of sacks, making the right tackle, the
Speaker 1: right time, ball on the ground, find a way to
Speaker 1: get it, take the interception, all the things we all
Speaker 1: talked about, which goes back to what I said at
Speaker 1: the outset of this program.
Speaker 3: The key word that you said at the beginning of
Speaker 3: the program, and the keyword that Matt set throughout the
Speaker 3: press conference is consistency. And so when you talk about
Speaker 3: all those examples of the way to improve or the
Speaker 3: accomplishments of the inside linebackers. It is about consistency. It's
Speaker 3: about every phase of the defense getting to know each
Speaker 3: other and developing that chemistry so they run a faster
Speaker 3: pace of defense. I do think it did show itself
Speaker 3: this week in Tampa, and I look forward to seeing
Speaker 3: it this week against the Kansas City Chiefs. But I
Speaker 3: think Matt's catchphrase for the week is getting back and
Speaker 3: having a perfect practice on Wednesday and having the consistency
Speaker 3: of all team elements offense, defense and special teams.
Speaker 1: So from Jack Sanborn, who was at the podium on
Speaker 1: Monday on just how the game was called by the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the week, Maddi Berflues.
Speaker 7: Obviously the first time with him. It's obviously been his
Speaker 7: defense for a while and knows it very well. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean I'm curious, you know, Tremaine kind of is
Speaker 7: listening to him until like hear exactly what he's saying.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it felt like we were kind of sending
Speaker 7: more pressure early in the game and stuff like that,
Speaker 7: and definitely aggressive and knows what he wants and knows
Speaker 7: what on certain plays, certain down in distances, situational ball.
Speaker 7: I can definitely trust and put us in exactly the
Speaker 7: position that he wants us to be in.
Speaker 1: And you know it's the confidence they have and a
Speaker 1: guy who's done it many many years, this is his defense.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, it's his defense at the Bears defense.
Speaker 1: But said Sanborn says that you know, the confidence in
Speaker 1: that goes a long way Tom and I would expect
Speaker 1: that from these guys me too.
Speaker 3: And you know the thing that I like about football
Speaker 3: is there's always a little bit more pressure when the
Speaker 3: head coach has his hands on a specific element of
Speaker 3: the team and he is calling the defense along with
Speaker 3: his duties as a head coach. And when you look
Speaker 3: at Jack Sandborn, to every single one of these players,
Speaker 3: Matt is a type of guy that's out there. We
Speaker 3: see him out there individually coaching fundamentals. So he knows
Speaker 3: the defense. He wants that more, he wants that better consistency,
Speaker 3: He wants these guys to play fast, and I think
Speaker 3: if every one of them continue to sharpen their fundamentals.
Speaker 2: We'll eventually see the outcome that we all want.
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Speaker 1: One more from Samborn. This is a local guy. This
Speaker 1: is a guy who experienced all those you know, losses
Speaker 1: last season to end of the year. Samborne was asked
Speaker 1: today if if he's taking it to heart.
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I think for me, it definitely does,
Speaker 7: just because you know, everyone's here to win, and everybody
Speaker 7: here wants to win, and so yeah, it definitely is tough.
Speaker 7: And you know, just being here last year too, being
Speaker 7: a part of that, I think everyone kind of understands.
Speaker 7: Everyone feels it, and I think nobody is more kind
Speaker 7: of disappointed in it than you know, the guys that
Speaker 7: are going out there every Sunday and kind of putting
Speaker 7: their bodies on the line for it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think everyone wants to win.
Speaker 7: I mean, the city deserves a winning team, and yeah,
Speaker 7: and I but we come in every day and you
Speaker 7: know that's our goal.
Speaker 1: I love the answer. I love the answer Tom. For
Speaker 1: the guys that have been here and have not experienced winning,
Speaker 1: it is hitting them hard. And despite the fact it
Speaker 1: is a different season, a different team, the guys that
Speaker 1: have been here, it does hit them a different way.
Speaker 1: It would have hit you a different way. As a
Speaker 1: local guy and a here for a long time.
Speaker 3: You know, Jack's path into the NFL is not as
Speaker 3: similar as a lot of other guys. When you come
Speaker 3: as a free agent, you're a local guy, you're not
Speaker 3: necessarily expected to make the team. Then you expect, Then
Speaker 3: you make the team, and you exceed expectations. So he
Speaker 3: doesn't have a long NFL life to go by. But
Speaker 3: when you have Tremaine Edmunds and you have TJ. Edwards,
Speaker 3: you have these guys that have been on successful teams
Speaker 3: and they see what it takes to maintain and sustain
Speaker 3: that consistency of winning. I think those are a couple
Speaker 3: of sounding boards that should be talking in the locker
Speaker 3: room a little bit more.
Speaker 2: With encouragement and correction.
Speaker 3: But I don't think a guy like Jack Sandborn needs
Speaker 3: needs a lot of advice about how hard to play
Speaker 3: the game and how to be prepared, because even when
Speaker 3: I watch him in the game against Tampa Bay Bucks,
Speaker 3: the dude still reads offense is as quickly as possible.
Speaker 3: He's a great Johnny on the spot tackler, and I
Speaker 3: still think his.
Speaker 2: Best football is ahead of him.
Speaker 3: However, when you have guys that come from winning franchises,
Speaker 3: the message that they can put inside the locker room
Speaker 3: and the way guys should think, prepare and be ready
Speaker 3: on game day.
Speaker 2: I think it could spill through offense and defense.
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Tyreek Stevenson. As I indicated in the
Speaker 1: interview with coach Kyli Gordon went through it, Jakwan Brisker
Speaker 1: went through it. Rookies go through what they go through,
Speaker 1: and he's going to be targeted until further notice. Certainly
Speaker 1: they're going to look at the tape and see where
Speaker 1: he is at right now. And so yesterday Sunday, Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: they went to him. They went to Mike Evans, they
Speaker 1: went to him when he was being defended by Tyreek Stevenson,
Speaker 1: and the end result was five of seven for one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards and a touchdown. Now skewed a bit, frankly,
Speaker 1: because of what you feel strongly about on the offensive
Speaker 1: pass interference that should have been calling Evans on the
Speaker 1: seventy yard touchdown, our seventy yard pass play.
Speaker 2: I don't think I know.
Speaker 3: Listen, Mike Evans throughout the course of his career has
Speaker 3: done this to a lot of defensive backs. But the
Speaker 3: judgment of any football player after an effort like that
Speaker 3: comes how do you rebound from it? Tarik Stevenson is
Speaker 3: one of the more physical, tackling defensive backs the Bears have,
Speaker 3: and I really admire that element of him. He's going
Speaker 3: to learn more about routes. He's going to learn more
Speaker 3: about how wide receivers in the NFL attack, how they're
Speaker 3: running downfield.
Speaker 2: He's going to get more consistent.
Speaker 3: About his reads to the receivers he's playing against. So
Speaker 3: when you talk about a six ' five, two d
Speaker 3: and forty pound receiver that's had a big day, Tyreek
Speaker 3: Stevenson should not be ashamed of it. He has to
Speaker 3: learn how to improve from it. And the next time
Speaker 3: he comes up, like a weapon against a weapon like that,
Speaker 3: how do you defend it more securely? Well?
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Speaker 1: Other injury news, we touched on Darnell Mooney. The word
Speaker 1: from Maddy Refluse on Eddie Jackson was positive for now,
Speaker 1: so that still needs to be taking a look at
Speaker 1: the foot injury. There at a couple dehydration issues during
Speaker 1: the game with TJ. Edwards and also Jakwan Brisker who
Speaker 1: managed to come back. Tom, they're going to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you check the weather yet, is
Speaker 1: it going to be hot there? Because seventy one okay,
Speaker 1: not an issue, should not be an issue, should not
Speaker 1: be an issue at all.
Speaker 3: Three twenty five starts, so the temperature will be on
Speaker 3: the downward.
Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, getting to be that weather fall is about to commence,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Let's talk about Kansas City and the
Speaker 1: one thing I want to talk about first and foremost
Speaker 1: is this third down of these past two weeks. So yes,
Speaker 1: so a lot has been given up on third down
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield was twelve or thirteen on third down
Speaker 1: throwing the football. You got Patrick Mahomes coming in. Can
Speaker 1: you stop some of the third down damage? And how
Speaker 1: do you represent doing it?
Speaker 3: First of all, I think they got to find someone
Speaker 3: that has the capabilities to run stride for stride with
Speaker 3: Kelsey because Patrick Mahomes when he gets in trouble and
Speaker 3: he sees his downfield receivers cover, he's willing to go underneath,
Speaker 3: and like I said, that thirteen yard pass, he's willing
Speaker 3: to throw an eight yard completion and count on Kelsey
Speaker 3: to get the extra five six yards needed to get
Speaker 3: beyond the first down marker. So I do think the
Speaker 3: role of not letting him have a free release off
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, allowing someone to interrupt his route
Speaker 3: as is as immediately as possible. Can you take a
Speaker 3: guy like Jakwan Brisker and kind of mirror him around
Speaker 3: the field from the line of scrimmage all the way
Speaker 3: through his route? But it's going to be about interrupting
Speaker 3: the comfort zone of Mahomes. Do you think there's a
Speaker 3: couple of attackable spots on their offensive line and if
Speaker 3: you can interrupt their protection. Put Patrick Mahomes in a
Speaker 3: back pedal, and I think you as great as he is,
Speaker 3: as great as his vision is, all the arm angles
Speaker 3: he can throw from, but any quarterback that's in a
Speaker 3: backpedal has difficulty accurately throwing it forward.
Speaker 1: You know, the Bears are much better at the moment
Speaker 1: and stopping the run than they were a year ago,
Speaker 1: And that's a big tip of the cap to the
Speaker 1: new front seven and some of those players there, and
Speaker 1: it can only get better from here. Isaiah Pacheco is
Speaker 1: the guy. He runs really hard. You're going to really
Speaker 1: have to want to bring that guy down. He's still
Speaker 1: got a chip on his shoulder for where he's drafted,
Speaker 1: and he was a star in the Super Bowl last year.
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Speaker 1: We're going to preview this later in the week, But
Speaker 1: Kansas City's defense has allowed just twenty three total points.
Speaker 1: The big guy comes back and hits the ground, running hard.
Speaker 1: Outstanding defensive tackle Chris Jones. He had a second and
Speaker 1: a half, He had five pressures. He hit the quarterback
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and much like Travis Kelsey, is
Speaker 1: a go to when they need a big stop, they
Speaker 1: turn to the big guy, Chris Jones.
Speaker 3: Well, if your intentions is to run at them, you
Speaker 3: better have some type of secure block against him, or
Speaker 3: at least he's going to penetrate into the backfield and
Speaker 3: disrupt the flow of the play, attack him from unexpected angles.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the way that we treated guys
Speaker 3: from departed Jerome Brown who played for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 3: Reggie White departed Reggie White for that matter. But when
Speaker 3: you play against great players with extreme explosiveness, you have
Speaker 3: to attack them jet at unexpected angles. And that's traps,
Speaker 3: and that's whams, and that's angle blocks by powerful offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: If you do that, what happens to the defensive lineman's
Speaker 1: psyche throughout the game? Great players, if they start looking
Speaker 1: over their shoulders see what's coming, do, they start losing
Speaker 1: their touch with where the ball's going and they start
Speaker 1: looking to see who's coming from the side or whatnot.
Speaker 3: You create an instant of hesitancy and their explosiveness off
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage because they're kind of seeing, Okay,
Speaker 3: if cole comets coming in slow motion, is he whamming me?
Speaker 3: Is he setting me up to get trapped? Or is
Speaker 3: he going to run by me and go off field? Now,
Speaker 3: if you can put that instant of hesitancy in their
Speaker 3: explosiveness off the line of scrimmage, you're giving the advantage
Speaker 3: back to the offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: I don't think Chris Jones is going to.
Speaker 3: Shy away from it, but there's a lot of different
Speaker 3: ways that you can unexpectedly attack him at the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage and take advantage of him penetrating across the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 1: You got any final thoughts before we wrap it up
Speaker 1: and let you break down the Kansas City Chief tape
Speaker 1: and figure out a way to stop the Magic Man.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, You know, I just want the Bears when
Speaker 3: they do take the practice field on Wednesday, to go
Speaker 3: out there with a positive attitude. I know they are
Speaker 3: zero to two and they lost the game. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of criticism that hope these guys aren't listening to
Speaker 3: through social.
Speaker 2: Media, because it is about weekly improvement.
Speaker 3: It is about developing that chemistry, and like Matt said,
Speaker 3: if you can go out on Wednesday and have a
Speaker 3: positive practice, that can do a lot to kind of
Speaker 3: bring the locker room back to life.
Speaker 2: Give a little belief.
Speaker 3: In what they're teaching you, and try to take it
Speaker 3: ultimately ultimately to the game field on Sunday.
Speaker 1: All right, Tom, back with you on Thursday for our
Speaker 1: preview of the Bears Chiefs in Kansas City Thursday night,
Speaker 1: six o'clock at ESPN one thousand Dolls Bears Weekly Show.
Speaker 1: We're going to be joined on the podcast, by the way,
Speaker 1: by the great voice, one of the great voices in
Speaker 1: the NFL, Mitch Holtis, the very excitable Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: radio play by play man. He'll have some stories fun
Speaker 1: got to talk to. So be ready, Big Tom, be ready.
Speaker 2: I'm ready every day for Bears head.
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