WEBVTT - #612 Packers Unscripted: In the win column 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:10.840 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.320 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.319 by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.440 here from our studios at lambeau Field. A little short 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.919 on sleep, West, but the Packers are in the wind column. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.759 Week two is in the books. Green Bay posts a 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.880 thirty five to seventeen victory over the Detroit Lions on 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.880 Monday night football one on one, tied for first in 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.680 the NFC North. And when you look at this one, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.160 the thirty five points. Offensively, it starts with number thirty three. Yeah, 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.520 and as you said, short on sleep, but not short 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.000 on points. The Packers offense, they got out the gates 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.080 and I thought it was the start they need to have. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.360 It wasn't perfect. Aaron Rodgers talked about that afterwards, certain 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.879 things they wish they could do, but the fact is 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.480 they fed Aaron Jones early and he produced in the 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.040 red zone. I mean to be able to get four 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:02.160 touchdowns three received ving first time that's been done since. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.080 It was a remarkable performance by him. And to you know, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.080 last week fifteen carries forty three yards on the ground. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.520 Green Bay just did not get their ground game going, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.960 and I felt like in this game, while they didn't 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.400 break a big gainer, it allowed those offensive linemen to 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.120 get comfortable. It allowed the offense to get into a rhythm. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.240 Matt Lafleur mentioned that benefits to him as a play caller, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.520 and at the end of the day when the Packers 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.119 made the decision to bring back Aaron Jones, these were 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.959 the type of moments that they brought him back for. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:36.640 He is dynamic and if teams are gonna go cover two. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.479 We talked so much this week myself included about okay, 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.200 you pound that, you know you pound the ball against that. Well, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.200 if they're gonna let running backs be opened in the 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.479 flat two and a guy is dangerous as Aaron Jones 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.720 being able to get the ball in his hand and 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.800 look up field. I thought, you saw what he can 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.320 turn that into. Yeah. Absolutely. My favorite sequence in this 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.920 game was right in the beginning, on the very first possession, 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.600 Packers get into the red zone offensively. They ran the 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.200 ball three consecutive times in the red zone to get 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.360 themselves down there inside the inside the five yard line. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:07.800 I leaned over to you in the press box and 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.600 I said, Wes, I love it when they run the 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.040 ball in the red zone. I just it just it 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.680 sets up everything else. It just looks like they are 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.640 in control when they were able to do that. And 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.560 actually Matt Lafleur said that the little push pass out 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.040 of the shotgun that Jones caught on the jet motion, offensively, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.799 they look at that as a running plea even though 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.200 statistically it's it's a passing play and it goes for 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:34.560 a a receiving touchdown for Aaron Jones. But they they showed, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.440 they showed the commitment to the run. The Lions banged 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.440 up in the secondary. We had talked about it. Jeff 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.600 Acuda was not playing. They had some young guys back there. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.600 They kept their two safeties deep, I think to protect 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.160 those young cornerbacks as best they could most of the game. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.320 And and the Packers took advantage they didn't like obviously 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.040 the three and out on the second possession after the 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.280 productive first possession, but then after that, spanning the end 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.040 of the second quarter are into the second half, the 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:05.440 Packers scored touchdowns four consecutive times they had the ball, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:09.320 and that's exactly what they needed to do. Bouncing back 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.840 from week one. Davantae Adams also obviously a big night 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.919 with a yards receiving eight receptions. Rogers talked about it 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.160 after the game. This offense starts with getting the ball 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.919 to thirty three and seventeen and when you just look 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.720 at the numbers West, if you take out the three 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.680 kneel downs. At the end of the game, the Packers 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.560 ran fifty eight offensive plays based on touches and targets. 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.160 Aaron Jones and Davante Adams were involved in thirty two 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.280 of those fifty eight plays. That's when the Packers offense 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.080 is at its best. Well. And to bring it back 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.880 to that first series and as you mentioned, technically, yes, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.000 three three carries in a push pass, yeah, but realistically 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.920 it was three times touching the ball in a run 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:54.480 game orientation for eighteen yards. It wasn't just that it 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.840 was a nice eleven place seventy five yard drive to 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.480 get on the board get that first touchdown that they 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.160 were looking for. It was the fact that you saw 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.640 how jittery that made Detroit in the red zone the 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.000 rest of the game. I was thinking of that you know, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.840 play action kind of rollout that they did later on, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.240 which was the second touchdown catch. I believe for Aaron 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.600 Jones that was completely set up by linebackers and safeties 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.119 biting on the Packers potentially running it up the middle. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.480 It was a nice play actually read that's setting up 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.360 your offense. That's being able to to take advantage and 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.680 mentally be one step ahead. But even more than that, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.040 I love the way that Aaron Rodgers attacked this defense too. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.400 You talk about the fifty yard pass to Davante Adams, which, honestly, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.560 to me, as important as Aaron Jones was to get 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.039 this thing started. I felt like that's where the Packers 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.480 really started to put their their foot you know. That 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.960 was that was the play of the game offensively, really 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.040 from a situational standpoint, because it's the opening drive of 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.560 the second half. The Packers are down seventeen fourteen and 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.279 Rogers had just been sacked on second and two, a 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.560 ten yard loss. You're staring at third and twelve to 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.560 open the third quarter and you're down by three points 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.599 and boom, the big hit down the field. Davante Adams 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.200 is in one on one coverage. Roger said the Lions 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.560 had actually rotated out of cover two into a single 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.000 high safety, so Davante was was one on one down 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.440 the sideline, perfect throw, great catch, fifty yard gain, and 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.159 from there the Packers offense looked pretty unstoppable. And Rogers 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.440 mentioned to the dangerous kind of weaponry in this offense 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.599 of arsenal for Green Bay. When they go to that 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.080 single high look, you're also having to keep attention on 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.080 Marcus Valdes scantling and with his speed going down field, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.520 and just to put an absolute perfect pass on DeVante 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.560 Adams in that area. Adams, as he always does, he 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.479 has the sideline as good as Jordy Nelson was on 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.000 the sideline, and he made some miraculous you know, you know, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.400 air bending type catches throughout his career. I don't know 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.719 anybody that is more aware of his body in where 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.159 he is in relation to the sideline than Davanta Adams. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.520 As he mentioned, that's a weapon for him. That's something 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.279 that he can use at this level to get you know, open. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:00.720 I mean, that's the part that's a part of the 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.640 whole game plan. And then right after that they come back, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.919 Rogers a beautiful pass to Robert Tonyan, I mean, you 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.560 and I when we're up in the press box, it 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.880 looked impressive. But then I don't know if you saw 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.960 that camera angle where it was actually the camera that's 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.680 set up in the end zone and you see just 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.680 the absolute frozen rope that is coming in on there, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.240 and Robert Tony makes a fantastic play on the ball. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.360 That was the game. That's where it started to break open. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.000 I felt like, whether it was offense, defense, heck, even 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.760 special teams, I felt like Green Bay really felt like 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.159 it had its mojo at that point. Yeah, and that 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.200 that throw to Tony in for the touchdown was another 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.320 third down. I believe that was third and seven from 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.200 the twenty two yard line, and Alan Lazard was even 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.880 wide open on the little shallow cross there over the middle. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.719 Rogers saw the linebacker and alone with his back to 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.520 him and uh and said, well, he's not gonna be 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.720 able to defend this. He fired it in there to Tonyan, 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.040 but even admitted al Lazard might have scored if if 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.800 he had actually taken the shorter throw there. And that's 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:01.960 what you love about this offense. I mean, Alan Lazart 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.040 I think played forty snaps. He didn't have a catch. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.159 Buddy impacted the football game. Afterwards, Matt Laflour talking about 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.520 you know, Mercedes Lewis, the way that they affect games. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.679 Randall Cobb comes in, has three catches on a single series. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.960 They have different guys at different moments that can step up. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.920 As we talked about, it is Davante Adams, it is 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.280 Aaron Jones. But those situational football players. That's what made 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.000 this offense the top scoring unit a year ago and 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.480 it's what allowed Green Bay to really put this one away. Yeah, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.880 big third down conversion there on the one series for 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.200 Randall Cobb. That was actually a couple of a couple 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.960 of conversions, one of those on a free play when 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.320 Rogers caught the Lions with twelve on the field, and 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.120 another third down conversion to uh to Cobb later in 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.840 the ballgame. A little bit of historical perspective. You mentioned 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.400 Aaron Jones the three touchdown receptions first time since nineteen two, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.800 So Andy Yurum, if I'm saying that correctly, he was 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.000 the last Packers running back to have three touchdown receptions 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.280 in the game. It was in ninety two. You remember 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.320 in two thousand three one a Mon green And broke 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.920 off that ninety eight yard touchdown run. Okay, that's the 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.960 longest touched on run in franchise history. The guy who 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:10.040 had the longest one before that, Andy Europe seven yards 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.880 in ninety nine. So I just wanted to say that 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.200 because I looked it up in the record book. If 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.360 you've never heard of Andy Uram, now you have. And 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.440 he has a couple of rather prominent places in uh 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.440 in Green Bay Packers history. So with that, we'll go 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.520 to a shout out to our sponsors. 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I 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.160 just I thought I thought I would throw that in there, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.640 and that much amount of time. Let's passed. I mean, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.800 that's that's remarkable. But but kudos to Aaron Jones um. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.280 And also I don't know if we're gonna get back 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:10.400 to it, so I just want to throw it out 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.240 there too. A monumental night for him and his family. Yeah, 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.480 to be able to for him to get four touchdowns 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.800 like that. He had fifteen members. You know, his mother 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.040 was there, his brother, his son, Aaron Jr. We all 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.360 know the story of what happened with Alvin Senior, Aaron's 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.040 father this offseason, unfortunately passed away at fifty seven years old. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.320 Aaron had a little pendant that he was wearing. We 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.320 found out after the game they actually lost it. He 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.480 believed it was on that second touchdown grab. Fortunately though 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.400 the reports out this morning, I believe it was on 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.320 Steve Saban show that he mentioned that he did find it. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.800 Credit goes to Brian fleet ingold Packers trainer, was able 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.320 to actually get that back forth flee out there hunting 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.240 around in the end zone around quarter to two, just 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.840 just shy of two a m and uh, and he 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.000 did find it. So Aaron Jones has necklace and the 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.959 pennant back. Another quick historical note, only four players in 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:03.000 Packer's history with multiple hole four touchdown games now Paul Hornick, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.280 Jim Taylor, Sterling Sharp, and Aaron Jones. That's some pretty 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:12.000 good company right there. On the defensive side of the ball, West, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.000 it was not a good first half. The Packers were 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.200 really struggling to find themselves defensively. There was one stop 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.480 in the first half, thanks mostly to some Lions penalties 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.000 that put them in a very bad down and distant situation. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.439 The other three possessions in the first half two touchdowns 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.920 in a field goal. Then the defense comes out in 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.360 the third quarter. After the Packers take the lead on 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.679 that opening possession of the third quarter and the Lions 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:40.000 are moving again fourth and one on the green Bay 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.640 twenty five yard line, the Packers get the stop Eric 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:48.000 Stokes tight coverage on Quintus cefas Jared Goff's passes incomplete. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.520 It felt like that play just completely changed things for 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.560 this Green Bay defense, and it also helped that the 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.960 defense was playing with a lead for the first time 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.280 all season here in the middle of the third order 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.800 of Game two. Yeah, I asked deve Andre Campbell, Packers 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.880 inside linebacker, about that. After the game in one of 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.720 the Zoom rooms, and he mentioned, I mean it's just 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.160 to be able to get a stop like that, just 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.160 the confidence builder that that was just a momentum changer. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.319 And credit to Eric Stokes. I mean, this rookie, first 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.559 round pick out of Georgia, he had an impressive outing 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.280 with you know, a little bit bigger of a menu 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.480 of plays. The biggest adjustment really that they made defensively 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.800 was in that Nickel package. They brought in Stokes as 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.160 the perimeter corner now opposite Jaire Alexander, and they moved 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.040 Kevin King into the slot. There was some miscommunication there 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.320 early on on one of the touchdown passes the Sea Fast, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.640 but in the second half, as the Packers started to 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.680 dial up the pressure a little bit more, you got 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.760 to see what Stokes can do as just a natural 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.880 man corner and and just had some really fantastic places. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.079 You mentioned the fourth and one, you know, kind of 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.960 quote unquote garbage time at the end, but a remarkable 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.440 PBu at the end of the game against Trinity Benson 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.959 Um that kept points off the board. That's what the 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.800 Packers wanted to see from this young man. He has 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.280 remarkable speed, good size, for cornerback, but can you step 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.000 up in those moments? And I thought he passed a 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.360 big test in this one. Yeah. Absolutely. I think we're 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.960 going to see some some more of Stokes now. The 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.320 Packers are going to face deeper receiving corps than than 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.920 the Lions. As as things move along here, the Lions 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:20.160 still trying to piece together exactly who they're um perimeter weapons, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.280 their top perimeter weapons are going to be. But that 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.120 beingstead said Stokes with an impressive performance, I thought the 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.280 I thought the fourth and one, if Anthony Lynn, the 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.120 Lion's offensive coordinator, was watching the film on the plane 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.319 on the way home, he's gonna want that call back 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.080 he had he had Jared Goff in the shotguns single setback. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.240 The Packers were kind of spread out defensively. Now, whether 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.120 he was whether Jared Goff should change that to a 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.840 run or where, whether Anthony Anthony Lynn should have just 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.240 called a run, or if he did and Goff decided 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.520 to throw it, I don't know. But you're looking at 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.400 that one from above. I was stunned that they didn't 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.400 hand the ball off there on fourth and one. I 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.920 think I think they definitely want that back, but quick 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.480 fade like that. It just wasn't. It just wasn't. Yeah, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.720 that that's that's a that's a tough timing play for 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:09.040 sure in that situation. But after that, the next three 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.680 possessions for the Lions offensively, Golf has the fumbled snap 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.000 on first down right when the rain started falling and 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.280 started coming down during that commercial break, and then sure 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.760 enough the very first snap, Golf can't handle it, Chris 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.240 Barnes falls on it. So the Packers catch a big 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.200 break there, a one play possession with the fumbled snap. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.040 Then you get a pressure quasi sack on third down 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.240 from Shawn Gary on the next possession to snuff that 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.400 one out, and then with the Lions essentially abandoning the 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.640 run because they're so far behind, you get an interception 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.480 from Campbell with with with Golf also under pressure and 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.920 trying to scramble out of the pocket. So after the 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.679 fourth and one stop, three more possessions where the Lions 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.080 really don't get and it don't really get much movement 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.480 at all in terms of offensive production and UH and 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.480 the Packers defense, for as much as it struggled the 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.400 first quarters of this season, they finally have just at 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.200 least a little bit to hang their hat on, a 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.120 little bit of momentum that hopefully they can take into 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.400 week three here in San Francis. Yeah, and to add 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.199 into your comment about Campbell, the fact that that was 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.319 Jonathan Garvin, the second year guy, former seventh round pick, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.160 was the one applying the pressure to golf. You gotta 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.959 imagine he feels really good about that on Tuesday morning 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.040 looking back at that film, understanding, Okay, I can do it. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.600 I can get after these guys at this level. The 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.080 biggest difference to me, Mike was pressure. And I don't 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.800 have all the stats. I don't know how many more 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.320 times they blitzed right now, but that was the difference. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.240 They were a lot more creative that you saw more 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.920 games in the second half. You saw some more blitz 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.880 is from DeAndre Campbell in some of the dime looks. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.400 I just felt like they let their hair go back 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.200 a little bit and they just felt played with a 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.480 little bit more confidence. Yeah, And it was and it wasn't. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.680 It wasn't throwing the kitchen sink at Jared Goff necessarily, 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.520 but it was definitely picking spots to send that one 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.480 extra guy, whether it was Campbell, whether it was Adrian Amos. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.640 I think even one time I saw Kevin King maybe 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.480 being the extra guy that was sent. So just sending 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.720 that fifth rusher seemed to speed up golf's play clock. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.400 And and uh, and the ball had to come out early. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.360 The Lions were not pushing the ball down field, and 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.280 and the whole the whole narrative defensively changed and it 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.840 certainly helped that the Lions basically had to give up 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.360 on the running game because of what the Packers offense 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.480 had done and building that second half lead. Yeah, and 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.160 I mean the other thing, the big difference in this 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.440 game was just execution. It applies to both sides of 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.080 the ball. I mean, the Lions in this game, as 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.320 we mentioned, oh for two on fourth down. Last week 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.040 New Orleans two for two. Uh, you know, four for 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.880 nine on third down, which was, you know, margin markably 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.680 better than last week against the Saints. And realistically it 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.960 also just disciplined, Mike, the Packers played with a lot 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.080 more discipline in this ball game. The Lions, as you said, 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.200 there were instances where they hurt themselves with penalties. Green 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.960 Bay took advantage of those, and they didn't really do 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.600 the same on the other side, and if they did 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.560 have a holding call or something, they found a way 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.880 to pick themselves back up on the next play. I 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.760 believe Tonyans even his twenty two yard touchdown catch was 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.120 a part of that. Defensively, do you have to hope 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.680 that this is something that now when you go into 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.760 Sam for Cisco, because they're gonna see a lot, you know, 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.520 stiffer tests in the weeks to come, with next week, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.640 everything that Kyle Shannon can throw at you the week 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.880 after that. You know Ben, you know Roethlisberger, one of 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.680 the sharpest minds in the game. It's going to get 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.680 more difficult and they're gonna have to do some of 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.920 these things on the road. But at least to get 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.680 a feather in their cap here. You gotta imagine that 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.400 feels good for a defense that did kind of take 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.640 it on the chin the first six quarters. Yeah, well, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.680 truly a team victory because the Packers also got a 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.560 significant contribution on special teams and primarily I'm talking about 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.800 rookie seventh round pick Kyle and Hill with a forty 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.960 one yard kickoff return in the second quarter. Now, mind you, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.240 this is what the Packers down four seven. He kind 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.720 of runs into the pile, bounces off, keeps his balance 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.000 and makes his way down the sideline and suddenly, even 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.240 though the Packers are down by seven, they're starting a 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.480 possession on their own forty four yard line, almost twenty 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.320 yards further ahead. Then then you'd be with a normal touchback. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.440 That was a significant moment in the game because then 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.160 the Packers did take advantage of that field position, drive 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.920 down get the game tied up there at fourteen in 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.679 the second quarter. Dante Adams had a really high praise 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.720 for Kyle and Hill after the game. He kind of 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.320 went out of his way to give it to him too. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.320 It was a question I asked just about the response, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.240 and he immediately pointed towards the special teams and he 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.119 basically said, he's, like, you know, just based on the 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.159 situation and the weapons they have. Kylan Hill didn't have 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.280 a huge role, probably could have had a bigger role, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.639 but the spark that he gave them, especially on that 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.000 forty one yard returned the longest return the Packers have 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.080 had since Tyler Irvin's back in December of two thousand nineteen, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.440 which was longer longer than any kickoff return last year 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.000 that the Packers had so for for Hill to do that, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.360 to bounce off makes something out of nothing and honestly 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.320 a breakdown on Detroit's coverage. That's what green Bay needs 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.920 to take advantage of. It's not about a guy with 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.520 just four three speed running past everybody. It's when somebody 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.840 you know loses they lost containment on the edge there. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.879 You have to be able to turn that thing off 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.280 field and hey through in a nice little hurdle two 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.760 over Austin Siebert the spice. You know, get these guys 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.920 going into that next series. Yeah, absolutely, well that that's 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.080 a good sign Corey. But horqu was also um Bojorke 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.920 has excuse me for the Packers with the punting game 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.119 we saw. I was really impressed with the punt he 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.080 had late in the game because it wasn't one of 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:14.120 those like super high hang time ones. But he launched 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.280 that thing with a ton of distance, decent hang time, 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.600 but put it like right along the sideline. I mean, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.320 the biggest punt returns that happened against you are when 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.720 the ball is kicked down the middle, when the returners 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.800 get to catch the ball between the numbers right And 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.919 even though that one maybe wasn't the you know, the 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.600 matching the hang time with the distance like they you know, 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.240 they like to say, if you can place the ball 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.200 all the way over on the sideline like that, you're 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.320 not going to give that return or chance to get 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.600 much more than than maybe eight or ten yards, which 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.000 even if he's getting ten yards on a fifty five 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.560 yard punt, you're taking that. Yeah, I mean the fifty 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.760 six yard of the sideline was exceptional. It's one of 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.040 the better punts I've seen. Also, that was the one 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.720 where I finally noticed. I was like, oh, that's a 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.240 left footed punter punting to the left sideline from the 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.879 left hash and you saw how much of a weapon 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.919 that can be for that young man. I wish the 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.080 coverage would have been better there. That's the only issue 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.760