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Speaker 1: Luck and load change to Michael Very show is on

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Speaker 2: America first includes all Americans, regardless of their race, their

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Speaker 3: Why don't deliver these United States where the one to

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Speaker 4: Let the rest of the world help.

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Speaker 3: Us forrchchange and let's rebuild the Mary first, Ah is

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Speaker 3: rigser fun far who's let who has been cursed? There's

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Speaker 3: things to be done all over the world, but let's

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Speaker 2: Our message to Black Americans tonight is this, we want

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Speaker 2: you what we want for every American. Safe neighborhoods, good jobs,

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Speaker 2: clean streets, a country where you are judged based on

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Speaker 2: the content of your character, not the color of your

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Speaker 3: On heal and watching bes who's in charge of it all?

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Speaker 5: God?

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Speaker 4: Let's the army got this aliberty, that got the risk

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Speaker 4: of it all?

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Speaker 1: E posision of the back and away. Freedom isn't stuck in.

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Speaker 3: Let's be out of areck, get back.

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Speaker 5: On the track, and let's rebuild and marry the first.

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Speaker 2: Our message to gay Americans tonight is this, You're free

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Speaker 2: to marry who you want, if you want, without the government.

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Speaker 1: Standing in your way.

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Speaker 2: On small but that doesn't mean that boys get to

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Speaker 2: compete with girls and girls' sports, or you do genital

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Speaker 2: mutilation and chemical castration.

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Speaker 5: On our children.

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Speaker 6: I don't reliver right.

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Speaker 3: These United States were the ones who need it the most.

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Speaker 3: You think I'm blowing to smoke bars ad ain, no dot,

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Speaker 3: I'm a twenty to fifty years coast code.

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Speaker 2: If you get ahead in the United States with your

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Speaker 2: own hard work, your own commitment, your own dedication, and

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Speaker 1: That is the American dream.

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Speaker 2: That is what we are running too, and that is

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Speaker 2: what we get when we send Donald Trump back to

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Speaker 2: the White House.

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Speaker 7: You may not have heard this story because well, Trump

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Speaker 7: in the garbage truck rightfully dominated the news cycle. There

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Speaker 7: was Biden biten babies. Just google it and you'll see

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Speaker 7: for yourself. I'm not exaggerating. That's not even the biggest story.

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Speaker 7: I don't talk a lot about the fraud and voter

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Speaker 7: integrity and things I happen to know, because one thing

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Speaker 7: we've learned, and this has proven out, is if our

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Speaker 7: people feel that there is not election integrity, they don't

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Speaker 7: show up to vote. And so unfortunately, election fraud has

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Speaker 7: two effects. Number One, in a close election, it can

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Speaker 7: take some of the Democrat who was losing and flip

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Speaker 7: them to the winner. But number two, it can create

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Speaker 7: a situation where they don't need to cheat because people

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Speaker 7: Study after study has shown that if you require voter

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Speaker 7: ensure election integrity, you actually get more voters. If people

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Speaker 1: The flip is true.

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Speaker 7: So one of the things that I that keeps me

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Speaker 7: there's nothing you can do about voter integrity.

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Speaker 1: Sitting around worrying.

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Speaker 7: About it and talking about it incessantly will mean that

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Speaker 1: I can't have that.

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Speaker 7: But there is an interesting issue in the state of Colorado.

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Speaker 7: Do you remember the name Jena Jenna Griswold. She's the

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Speaker 7: the one that kicked Trump off the ballot. She said, well,

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Speaker 7: the state of California, state in Colorado, they quote unquote

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Speaker 7: accident idently posted the passwords to the voting machines, which

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Speaker 8: Passwords for Colorado's voting systems were posted online for anyone

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Speaker 1: Knew where to look.

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Speaker 8: Democratic Secretary Saint Jenna Griswol's office apparently.

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Speaker 8: Griswold's office found out last Thursday and had not told

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Speaker 8: the county clerks who actually run elections. Then the Colorado

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Speaker 8: Republican Party went public today demanding the Griswolds secure those

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Speaker 1: Here's Marshall Zellinger.

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Speaker 9: The Colorado Secretary of State's office is required to maintain

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Speaker 9: a spreadsheet of certified voting systems for each county. That's

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Speaker 9: apparently revealed one set of passwords for voting computers in Colorado.

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Speaker 9: blast from the Colorado Republican Party. The passwords had been

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Speaker 10: There are two passwords to get into any voting component,

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Speaker 9: Democratic Colorado Secretary of State Jennt Griswold explained how each

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Speaker 9: computer component requires two passwords to gain access. The ones

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Speaker 9: on the website were just one of the passwords, and

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Speaker 9: it requires in person access by multiple people, which is

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Speaker 10: We have layers of security and outut of just an

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Speaker 11: The truth is is this a concern yes? Is it

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Speaker 11: being minted yes? Does this mean that all of the

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Speaker 11: computers are connected to the Internet and that votes are

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Speaker 11: being flipped No.

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Speaker 9: Matt Crane is the former Republican of Rapaho County Clerk

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Speaker 11: I want to stress her this as an all Republicans,

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Speaker 7: Now again, I don't want folks to get bogged down

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Speaker 7: they don't need to cheat.

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Speaker 1: That's the fact.

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Speaker 7: One hundred and sixty eight thousand duplicate votes yesterday in Michigan.

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Speaker 7: We're disallowed because it's not like with run of McDaniel

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Speaker 1: One hundred and.

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Speaker 7: Sixty eight thousand duplicate votes were kicked out yesterday. We

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Speaker 1: An undocumented immigrant is not a criminals. The Michael Very Show.

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Speaker 10: We have to correct course in this conversation.

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Speaker 7: Wa Barack Obama called you a bitter clinger. Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 7: called you a deplorable Kamala Harris has called you a

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Speaker 7: Nazi and a fascist. Joe Biden just calls you straight

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Speaker 7: up garbage. But you're not garbage. Earlier today I asked listeners,

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Speaker 7: are you garbage? Is your life garbage? And this is

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Speaker 1: Phone lines, Steve, are you garbage? As Joe Biden says, Joe,

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Speaker 12: To Michael who was able to work his family, the

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Speaker 12: work when his wonderful wife. I have a great job,

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Speaker 12: by the great God. I am not.

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Speaker 7: Garbage, Steve, God bless you. I believe in redemption. Takes

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Speaker 7: a strong man to say what you just said and

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Speaker 7: to do what you've done. Walt Walt, are you garbage?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 4: Sure, I am not garbage. I am a Christian, I'm

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Speaker 4: an American by birth and Textion by choice. I love my neighbors,

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Speaker 7: I bet you are a great great grandfather. God bless you,

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Speaker 7: Walt David. Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?

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Speaker 13: God?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not garbage, Michael.

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Speaker 6: I believe in God CON's country, this great country that

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Speaker 5: I love being here. I'm a capitalist and we don't

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Speaker 14: Amen.

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Speaker 1: No, Amen, thank you for the call. Christy.

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?

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Speaker 1: No, Sir, I am not.

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Speaker 15: I am made in the image of God.

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Speaker 1: I am not garbage.

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Speaker 15: But I do want to commend Joe Biden for the

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Speaker 15: one good thing he's done as president. He gave millions

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Speaker 7: Amen to that, well said Christy. Thank you, sweetheart.

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?

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Speaker 5: I am not garbage.

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Speaker 13: I drive an eighteen wheeler down the road haul in

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Speaker 13: America's freak to the American people. The only garbage we

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Speaker 7: You got well, said Frank, living up to the very

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Speaker 1: Of time to think while they're driving.

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Speaker 7: They're not fidgeting with their phone and not rushing to

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Speaker 7: and structure their arguments. Of Donald Donald, you're on the

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Speaker 7: Michael Barry Show. Joe Biden says that you are garbage?

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Speaker 7: Are you garbage?

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Speaker 16: I am not garbage. I'm a garbage man. And the

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Speaker 16: people in this country are all garbage men. We pack

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Speaker 16: it's scheduled. Are garbage collectors. They're not garbage men. They're trashed.

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Speaker 16: They're garbage men, but in a sense they come with

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Speaker 16: it's a whole country of people living and paying their

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Speaker 7: Are you garbage because Joe Biden says you are Scott.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?

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Speaker 17: The God that created our universe, it's the vast universe.

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Speaker 13: We all live in, also took the time out so

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell.

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Speaker 13: You let those of those together, because our God doesn't

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Speaker 13: start any vast projects with half aasque ideas.

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Speaker 7: Amen, Donna. Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?

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Speaker 7: Amen, Well said Grant. Joe Biden says you are garbage.

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Speaker 7: Are you garbage? No, sir.

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Speaker 7: In what industry hearing aids no good for you.

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Speaker 1: You know Grant.

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Speaker 7: When I hear a story like that, I think to myself.

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Speaker 1: God wasn't ready for you yet.

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Speaker 7: He put you back in the game because he's going

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Speaker 1: Marcus Joe Biden. He says you are trash. You are garbage.

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Speaker 17: I am as Houston firefighters.

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Speaker 1: God bless you. You might like your girls a little

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Speaker 5: No, sir, No, sir, I'm not garbage.

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Speaker 7: You know, It's funny, that's how an organic discussion develops.

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Speaker 1: If Christians do not vote.

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Speaker 14: And by the time I finished this message, I think

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Speaker 9: Yeah, God, allow me to introduce myself.

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Speaker 16: My name is Mitor Michael Berry.

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Speaker 1: Genius.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 7: Pastor Byron McWilliams is my kind of guy. A listener

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Speaker 7: Byron McWilliams, in my opinion, is living up to God's

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Hey, Michael Berry. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 7: Knowing that it will probably offend some people, maybe cost

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Speaker 17: Why do that, man, Michael? That's the question right there. Ultimately,

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Speaker 17: Because my people need to hear from their pastor. And

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Speaker 17: So that's that's really how it came about. I've never

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Speaker 17: really shied away from tough subjects. You said something earlier

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Speaker 17: about being fearless. No, there is fear involved, but the

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Speaker 17: fear cannot be allowed to stop me from speaking and

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Speaker 17: saying what God wants me to say.

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Speaker 1: Do you get complaints?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah I do. It is a.

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Speaker 17: We live in West Texas, and I will tell you

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Speaker 17: that West Texas is probably one of the reddest places

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Speaker 17: in Texas, and I love that.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think it would matter where I live.

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Speaker 17: I'm going to preach the word, and if I was

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Speaker 17: in Southeast Texas still I would preach there. I've preached

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Speaker 17: the same way when I live there. People do complain

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Speaker 17: at times, but people who know me, they know my

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Speaker 17: heart and they know that my desires to lift up

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Speaker 17: and exalt the Lord Genus above everything else. And uh,

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Speaker 17: and I just feel strongly that if the church is

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Speaker 17: silent during these perilous times, if the church is silent

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Speaker 17: when we see all of the evil that is going on,

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Speaker 17: we we I'll stand before God, and I will I

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Speaker 17: will have to give an account of why I did

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Speaker 17: not speak up and why I did not warn the

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Speaker 17: sheep whom are under my responsibility as their shepherd. That's so, yeah,

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Speaker 17: I get complaints, but the complaints are not going to

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Speaker 17: stop me from.

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Speaker 5: Doing what God wants me to do.

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Speaker 7: I note your involvement and leadership, rather impressive resume of

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Speaker 7: service and leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention and the

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Speaker 7: International Baptist Church. It's it's obviously you are well respected

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Speaker 7: among among ministers. When you when you look at that

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Speaker 7: service and you look at churches across the country, obviously

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Speaker 7: a lot of pastors.

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Speaker 1: Are not willing to do what you're willing to do.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 5: That's a great question. I thought about that.

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Speaker 17: I think fear is certainly the biggest issue for most

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Speaker 17: and I struggle with that, okay, because I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 17: I think if I'm going to let fear stop me

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Speaker 17: from speaking the word of God, that's not really fear

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Speaker 17: it's cowardice and I can't stand that. I think there's

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Speaker 17: a fear that some pastors had a have of losing members,

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Speaker 17: and let's just call it what it is. They don't

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Speaker 17: want to lose somebody the tides and gives to the

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Speaker 17: church because there's budgetary issues. But again, my God does

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Speaker 17: not just own a cattle on a thousand hills. He

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Speaker 17: owns a cattle on every hill, and he can provide,

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Speaker 17: and he does provide. And then I think there is

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Speaker 17: the fear in the mind of some that they're dishonoring

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Speaker 17: the Lord by standing up and speaking, you know, and

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Speaker 17: what they call politics, I think it's dishonoring to the

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Speaker 17: Lord to not stand up and.

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Speaker 5: Not speak truth regardless. And that's our calling.

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Speaker 17: And you know, for the first time in American history,

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Speaker 17: you have the pulpits in America that are practically silent,

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Speaker 17: and world history has an American history has never had

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Speaker 17: silent pastors out there, you know, just just sitting and

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Speaker 17: watching that which is devastating to our culture, devastating to

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Speaker 17: the generations that.

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Speaker 5: Are coming behind us.

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Speaker 17: And they're going to sit by quietly and watch this

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Speaker 17: take place and not stand up and speak out against it.

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Speaker 17: And seek to lead God's people to deeper, to deeper

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Speaker 17: holiness toward in honor of Him. I just can't abide

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Speaker 17: by that. So I think it's fear. I think it's

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Speaker 17: fear of losing members. I think it's that big word fear.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: I genuinely believe, not just a political comment, genuinely believe

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Speaker 7: it is much deeper than that, that there is a

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Speaker 7: move by the devil to silence the church. And I

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Speaker 7: think that a number of people have sup hum to that.

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Speaker 7: And I'll tell you, I don't know your finances. I

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Speaker 7: don't know your church's finances. I will tell you when

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Speaker 7: I see these churches constantly in the middle of a

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Speaker 7: building fund, constantly in the middle of some fund to

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Speaker 7: enrich the pastor constantly trying to do something bigger. You know,

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Speaker 7: there was a prayer of job as Era where everybody

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Speaker 7: wanted to expand their lands, and I found that to

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Speaker 7: be very, very unbiblical. But just like at the individual level,

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Speaker 7: just like with the United States Treasury, when you take

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Speaker 7: on all these debts, you put yourself in a situation.

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Speaker 7: I tell young people this today, when they get their

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Speaker 7: first job, do not go least of BMW or a

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Speaker 7: Mercedes and take out a loan on a big house.

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Speaker 7: You've just started your job, because then you can't leave

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Speaker 7: when you're compromised, and I think that that has affected

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Speaker 7: a lot of the church. So I have from a

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Speaker 7: distance an appreciation for what.

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Speaker 1: You do and how you do it.

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Speaker 7: But I will tell you that the highest compliment I

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Speaker 7: can give you is that you from when we talked

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Speaker 7: last night, you talk about shepherd your sheep and tending

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Speaker 7: your flock, and I love that about you. Pastor Byron McWilliams.

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Speaker 7: First Odessa, that you might be a shining example of

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Speaker 7: what the church should be. Oh els least for good

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Speaker 7: thank you, and good night,