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Speaker 3: Our number three on a Magic City Monday, Rob Parker,

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Speaker 4: Screen. Rob g we have a special guest at the

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Speaker 4: bottom of the hour, that's right.

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Speaker 5: Dave Damashak, friend of the Steelers fan, got some good

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Speaker 5: do some good stuff with Dan Levintar these days and

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Speaker 5: DraftKings once coming and gloat a little bit about his Steel.

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Speaker 4: About his steel All right, we'll do that with Dave.

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Speaker 4: It'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: We got last call, so we got a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff to get to and we talked about the Steelers

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Speaker 3: and they're wining and whatnot. I know you weren't that

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Speaker 3: in press, but they won. No, I was in pressed, okay.

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Speaker 6: I mean the biggest part was I told you, I

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Speaker 6: was they had they lost the field, go goes in.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna be not on Aaron Rodgers on DK

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Speaker 6: and I told you, because you can't you put them

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Speaker 6: out there handicapped for a couple of games without their

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Speaker 6: best receiver.

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Speaker 4: That's why I was gonna go.

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Speaker 3: And and the other thing though, is and I don't

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Speaker 3: know what day were you working.

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Speaker 4: Were you working Friday?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 3: When we talked about this game about yes, okay, because

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Speaker 3: I'm always mixed up with Rob g and I know

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Speaker 3: you guys, so I don't remember. But we talked about it,

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Speaker 3: and I told you the reason I wouldn't pick the

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Speaker 3: Ravens on paper. They should have won the game on paper,

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Speaker 3: but you know that's not how sports played.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, what do we talk about that?

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Speaker 4: Always something goes wrong some situation.

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Speaker 3: If you want to get up here and blame lamar

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Speaker 3: you didn't watch the game, Okay, seriously, cause you just

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Speaker 3: can't blame him. But in this case, with where they are,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know how John Harbor was fired today.

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Speaker 3: I'm dead serious. He's been there too long. The season

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Speaker 3: ends on the same thing all the time. Some misplay whatever,

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Speaker 3: and I get it. They go, well, how are you

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Speaker 3: gonna blame a midfield goal on the gold You're not

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Speaker 3: kicking the field goal. But as we know, if he

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Speaker 3: wins that game, coach don't get credit if he makes

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Speaker 3: that stial goal.

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Speaker 4: True, coach gets credited. Harbor.

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Speaker 3: All yeah, all year they scuffled and the coach got

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a great job he did. That's

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is the Ravens are disappointing. This

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Speaker 3: season started with them scoring forty points in Buffalo and.

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Speaker 4: The opener and losing the game.

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Speaker 3: The way he coached down the stretch, we talked about

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Speaker 3: he's afraid of Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 4: I believe that.

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Speaker 3: I believe that that's why they didn't do it. Derrick

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Speaker 6: Capable, He said, Listen, he was a handful of yards

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Speaker 6: what he does. Man, Listen, you we argue, we yell,

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Speaker 6: we go at each other. This is one time win agreement.

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Speaker 6: I've said this before with you guys, Nothing ever is

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Speaker 6: complete with the Ravens rock. Lamar Jackson will ball out,

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Speaker 6: likely will drop it, say Flowers will fumble Derek Henry.

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Speaker 4: How could they catch that? Likely like.

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Speaker 6: All the mispasses, all the caught in the end zone,

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Speaker 6: that suff Mark Andrews two point played two point conversion drop.

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Speaker 6: There's always something Lamar Jackson. Maybe he the defense plays

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Speaker 6: Henry fumbles there. They never can be complete, and you're

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Speaker 6: be the best team in the NFL the last two

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Speaker 6: or three years. Wise, you got enough receivers, not saying

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Speaker 6: two solid to good tight ends, got amazing running back,

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Speaker 6: the last couple of years prior to this year, like

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Speaker 6: It comes down to a player two. And we will

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Speaker 6: give credit to the Chiefs last year they won those

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Speaker 4: You talked about that. They won a lot of games

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Speaker 4: last straw.

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Speaker 6: That's what it comes down too oftentimes, and the Ravens

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Speaker 6: just something's always off with them. And to not run

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Speaker 6: fourteen second two to one, it was two, they had three.

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Speaker 6: They called the one after the catch, yeah, meaning they

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Speaker 6: went they left the game with one. No, that's what

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Speaker 6: we know about to do. We're about to hey, Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 6: use them all that stuff you did on him, you

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Speaker 6: followed a couple of times. You know what, it is

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Speaker 6: a chance to make him for go give me eight

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Speaker 4: So likely made up for some missus and a and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: He made a great catch on fourth and seven, and

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Speaker 3: that ball dropped the seasons over right.

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Speaker 6: There's no way to think we're getting ready to run

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Speaker 6: Derek Henry up the gut, Go do an RPO, breakout,

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Speaker 6: all side, slide down, call a timeout to you have

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Speaker 6: By the way, kicker, this ain't just a regular game.

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Speaker 6: You miss it. We don't go to the playoffs. But

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Speaker 6: by the way, all the pressures on you. How about this?

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Speaker 6: One hundred and fifty something plus yards for Derrick Henry

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Speaker 6: first half, five carries, the second half rock What happened

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Speaker 6: against the was it the Bengals, chef, I'm sorry the

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Speaker 4: They just always are not on point.

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Speaker 3: And when they lost to the Chiefs in the AFC,

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Speaker 3: Chimps didn't run anymore, didn't run the ball, you remember.

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Speaker 4: That's what I want to say. It was just.

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Speaker 6: It's always something with them, and it is time to

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Speaker 6: explore new options. A lot of people are saying, man,

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Speaker 6: trying to look at Lamar, the cap hitting on seventy five.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna work that deal out. They're gonna work it

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Speaker 6: out with him. He wants to be. Let me tell

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Speaker 6: you what I ain't doing. I'm not getting a guy

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Speaker 6: who had an off season for sure, in and out

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Speaker 6: the lineup. I'm not let that man go twenty eight

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Speaker 6: years old. I don't give a dang. We ain't letting

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Speaker 6: him go. So if some tango John, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: I know it would be it would be illogical if

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Speaker 3: I got to pick between the two.

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Speaker 6: And it's not even I'm not even thinking about thirty

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Speaker 6: four or something. We had a good ten twelve. Okay,

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Speaker 6: maybe Jude, he's twenty eight. You saw what he can

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Speaker 6: do now, Lamar. The only thing I would say to him,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what I mean. It's sincerely, Rob talking

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Speaker 6: Robbie about this. Maybe you can tell me. I want

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Speaker 6: you to tell me, Dub say Calvi you're going low overboard,

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Speaker 6: You're going overboard.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: No, wait, at least let me get it out. Okay.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if times if Lamar Jackson still has PTSD

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Speaker 6: from the he's not a quarterback, He's just an athlete.

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Speaker 6: He's a this and he wants to prove that I'm

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Speaker 6: a quarterback. Maybe it's just because he's banged up this season,

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Speaker 6: but there are a paandful of plays in the last

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Speaker 6: few games that he has played where he's not running. See,

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Speaker 6: there's an opportunity where you're like, this is weird, Like, oh,

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Speaker 6: it's right there, go pick up that third and he's

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Speaker 6: not running and he's kind of overthinking, and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 6: made you Spectaculus, was made you dangerous, made you the

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Speaker 4: And I did see a few plays.

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Speaker 6: I was texting you guys, text and Rob G like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if again, if it's that in the

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Speaker 4: And I'm just being real, you tell me.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes the black quarterback or they're just athletes, they're not quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: They're not this and I don't know if that plays

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Speaker 6: to prove it that I can throw this thing. When

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Speaker 6: it's like, dude, this is a run, dual threat quarterback

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Speaker 6: league period, white Black, Polynesian samoing, it don't matter. Can

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Speaker 6: you can you go get me some yards? And I

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Speaker 6: see some players where I'm like, this is weird. Lamar,

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Speaker 6: are you you'll be out?

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Speaker 3: He's like, I don't think it's the proving part, because

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Speaker 3: maybe that's what I said. Maybe I've always think I mean,

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Speaker 3: because he's won two MVPs and all and he got

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Speaker 3: just think it's not that I think he was injured.

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Speaker 3: I think he had a back injury. And rob G

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Speaker 3: year I think he had did he have eight hundred yards?

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Speaker 4: Robb G? What was the number he had? Nine hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifteen rush? Ye fifteen last year and this year

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Speaker 4: what was the number?

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Speaker 5: Three forty nine? So then the big thing is his

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Speaker 4: And he how many games he missed four games.

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Speaker 5: He played thirteen games sixty seven attempts last year takes

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Speaker 5: seventeen games at one hundred and thirty nine rush.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's a there's a degree of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: just agree that he doesn't run as much. He's like

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Speaker 4: it is, but it's there. That's the thing.

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Speaker 6: It's not like he's I'm not saying force it. I'm saying, oh,

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Speaker 6: you're subconscious of seeing Lamar. You go, oh he's about

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Speaker 6: to break out. Oh he's wait what is he And

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Speaker 6: he's like running sideways and he's like, call you, Lamar,

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Speaker 6: go And that's why we had a conversation about Lamar

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Speaker 6: is clearly faster than Josh Allen. He's more agile than

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Speaker 3: It's football dash Jackson Dart Okay, this is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, it's football. You're not watching for

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Speaker 4: But yeah, John Harball, he doesn't.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't make you feel confident when the game is

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Speaker 4: Rob g jump in.

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Speaker 5: I got a big question for you guys, because coming

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Speaker 5: this was the year for the Baltimore Ravens. Yep, they

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Speaker 4: You know they've been through it. This is the year

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Speaker 5: In fact, coming into the season, the Baltimore Ravens, I

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Speaker 4: That is a huge number on us. That's a big

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Speaker 5: And to your point, Lamar Jackson got banged up all season,

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Speaker 3: Don't forget that the first game was the right you know,

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Speaker 5: They had really inexplicable losses, you know, Derrick Henry a

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Speaker 5: So why then, are you so quick to jump off

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a combination. I'm just I think the coach

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Speaker 3: long and you haven't. You keep thinking something's going to

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just like you keep doing that and then

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Speaker 3: So that's the scary part. And number two, the defense

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Speaker 4: A ton?

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Speaker 6: And my thing, rob G is I can't keep going. Lamar,

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Speaker 6: we'll be eleven and you know six, we'll be twelve

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Speaker 6: and five. But when I need it, we don't feel right.

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Speaker 6: We're always something on, We've got penalties, we got dry.

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Speaker 6: And at some point I need somebody that can make

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Speaker 6: I will give you that. I'll be the first admit that.

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Speaker 6: if I told you they had to go win this

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Speaker 4: Rob.

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel good for them to go to Pitch

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Speaker 4: And they should they you should be like, oh, they

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Speaker 5: To your point, you know I'm playing Devil's out of it,

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Speaker 5: but to your point, yesterday here the stats, third down

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Speaker 5: seven years old, right, Why on earth was he only

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Penalties double for the Baltimore races. Stupid penalty time of

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Speaker 5: does that look like on coaching? I had it for

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Speaker 6: And he's and he's a he's a really good coach,

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Speaker 6: not saying he's like get him out and he sucks

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Speaker 6: more So to your point, is it a voice change

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Speaker 6: and is it a confidence?

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Speaker 4: Is it somebody else?

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Speaker 6: Is there a Ben Johnson like guy, if you will,

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Speaker 6: This is that missing little thing that I would do

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Speaker 3: All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight

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Speaker 3: the Ravens need to clean house and rebuild around Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: We want to hear from you.

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Speaker 6: Nothing no love for me. Well not the steal I

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Speaker 4: Same thing cheese shop.

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Speaker 6: But it's a number of was a while ago. They

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Speaker 6: stop they are give me that Wayne Back. No, no,

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Speaker 6: do it, lady, we got time. You ain't betting that, man.

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Speaker 6: We'll bet another pair of Jordan's or something on this one.

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Speaker 6: You would take that. I am about to say, I'll

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Speaker 3: Quiet Rady In seven ninety nine on Fox, what would

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Speaker 3: d C. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: What's up Darren?

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Speaker 7: Very new year, robbing h Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm good. I can't complain. I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 8: He would have been the first one on Black Friday.

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Speaker 9: Black.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, man, he's been there too long.

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Speaker 7: He wouldn't even got on the plane leaving Pittsburgh. He

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Speaker 4: Hey right with y'all.

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing about it.

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Speaker 8: The last few years Baltimore has been fined and ready

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and he keeps he keeps getting right, you can't

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Speaker 8: And any time you coach not to lose, just shuwn,

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened when they didn't run the ball

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Speaker 8: But every time they get in a big game, he

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Speaker 7: Play good defense, play action with Lamar. Let Lamar be special.

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Speaker 8: He tries to make Lamar like he's this big time

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Speaker 7: What makes Mark Lamar special. Lamar is special because you

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Speaker 4: Well, both of them. Right, He's a dual threat.

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Speaker 7: And the only thing I say, the reason why Harburn

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Speaker 8: He's had the most blown double digits in the last

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Speaker 7: To win and versus I mean coaching not to lose

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Speaker 7: He's a good coach and he'll laying on his feet somewhere.

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Speaker 8: But they need a new voice.

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Speaker 7: So uh, Jeorge, So like with you having with Jordan

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Speaker 7: when he had Doug Collins, Dull Collins had them.

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Speaker 8: Top ready in the playoffs, but it wasn't a Phil

438
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Speaker 8: Jackson gout that put a.

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Speaker 7: Different structure place that they can actually win the championship.

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Speaker 3: How about Tim and Florida. You're on the odd couple

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Speaker 3: of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Tim?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 9: Guys?

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Speaker 7: Happy New Year?

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Speaker 4: You too?

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Speaker 10: You so listen, I totally disagree with the last guy

449
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Speaker 10: that called okay. If you get rid of John Hartball,

450
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Speaker 10: you are absolutely insane. He is the reason that they

451
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Speaker 10: have been relevant for years.

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Speaker 7: Keep in mind, you.

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Speaker 3: Can't keep doing that card though. I mean, come on,

454
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Speaker 3: you can't tell me, let me, let me ask you.

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Speaker 3: Are you a Ravens guy?

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Speaker 10: Listen, nobody believed in Lamar Jackson except for.

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Speaker 4: We're past that. We're past that now. Every year, every year,

458
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Speaker 4: every year, they have.

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Speaker 3: The same roster, the best roster in the league. You

460
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Speaker 3: can't keep losing every year, losing.

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Speaker 11: Every year and catches that pass.

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Speaker 7: Last year, they're going to the Super Bowl. What do

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Speaker 7: you mean losing every year?

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Speaker 11: They lost every they lost, they lost every year.

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Speaker 3: It ain't about being relevant. I keep telling you, it's

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Speaker 3: about winning. Stop with the relevant. That's old school. Maybe

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Speaker 3: once the same way they didn't win the just being

468
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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl by now, come on, man.

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Speaker 4: Constantly, Tim, Tim, Tim, I don't know. Here's here's where

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Speaker 4: I disagree with you. Tim.

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Speaker 6: You can't keep having the best player, yeah in football

472
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Speaker 6: and MVP candidate every year the last four or five

473
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Speaker 6: years or so, and then come up short.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, it's how bad you look.

475
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Speaker 6: You stop running the ball one half other half guys

476
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Speaker 6: are making a bunch of mistakes and penalties and team

477
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Speaker 6: of the coach. You gotta admit that, Tim, That's what

478
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Speaker 6: happens in sports. Quarterbacks get out of love, get a

479
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Speaker 6: lot out of the blame. Coaches get out of love,

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Speaker 6: get a lot of the blame. And at a certain

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Speaker 6: point it's man in the mayor moment. All right, Well,

482
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Speaker 6: what's not to mention that he was masterful when they

483
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Speaker 6: were more defensive oriented, if the Ray Lewis era and

484
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Speaker 6: all that, moving a little bit forward, but that was

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Speaker 6: his strength.

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Speaker 3: But they haven't won up They haven't won it a

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Speaker 3: long time, like he's been there too long and at

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Speaker 3: some point, uh, you know, like like he's making a point.

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Speaker 4: I keep bringing it up.

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Speaker 3: But but but it really, uh it really is a

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Speaker 3: true comparison.

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Speaker 4: When you think.

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Speaker 3: About Tony Dungee getting the Tampa Bay Bucks right on

494
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Speaker 3: the cusp year after year after year, they finally say,

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Speaker 3: let's bring in John Gruden. They won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: next year, and with that mentality, you would have never won.

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Speaker 4: You might not have no down.

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Speaker 3: He went on to win with Indianapolis, but at that

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Speaker 3: time it had run out and it runs cool.

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Speaker 6: They may not obviously they may not fire him, but

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Speaker 6: the idea of having this conversation is not crazy.

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Speaker 3: All right, real quick, Andre from Massachusetts, You're on the

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Speaker 3: odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: What's up right?

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Speaker 7: Hey you doing?

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Speaker 12: Thanks for taking the call. Happy Monday. I gotta say

507
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Speaker 12: I'm opposed to blowing it up and building around John Harbor. Listen,

508
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Speaker 12: it's getting late for building round Lamar Jackson Harbaugh his

509
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Speaker 12: stint in Baltimore. It is getting late. I need to

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Speaker 12: see it for one more year. Here's the reason why.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 12: We had a situation in Detroit that people might remember

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Speaker 12: where they had their championship team rob You remember this, okay,

514
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Speaker 12: that won the championship in O four, should have won

515
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Speaker 12: it in uh. They had a number of years they

516
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Speaker 12: should have won in a row. Here's my point. The

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Speaker 12: Celtics knocked them out of there in two thousand and

518
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Speaker 12: eight and six games when Detroit had the advantage because

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Speaker 12: Celtics played in a multiple seven game series. What did

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Speaker 12: Joe Dumars do? He blew it up, He got Ridy

521
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Speaker 12: Chauncey traded him for Allen Iverson, just blew the team up.

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Speaker 12: He was so frustrated with that group. Detroit Pistons haven't

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Speaker 12: been heard from again since now with Kate Cunningham, it's

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Speaker 12: been more than twenty years. We got to give it

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Speaker 12: one more year to see if he can get through it.

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Speaker 2: As munch.

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Speaker 12: If it's another middling performing year and he's just not

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Speaker 12: doing it, then you do it. But again, we need

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Speaker 12: to see an actual plan right now. There's a lot

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Speaker 12: of frustration. But Joe Dumars back in the day and

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Speaker 12: the Ravens, I guarantee you they don't have a plan

532
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Speaker 12: for the nuclear option like these other teams, but they

533
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Speaker 12: can start getting it ready right now. You give him

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Speaker 12: one more year, you see, and then you make the

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Speaker 12: shift for the next generation somebody.

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Speaker 6: The only difference is, and you know this, he mentioned

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Speaker 6: them trading the heart and soul that team of Chauncey

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Speaker 6: that will be like trading Lamar.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about a coach well, but also and then

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Speaker 4: Larry Brown.

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Speaker 3: But also the difference is they had one though they

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Speaker 3: have them with this group, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, Like, that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: They did win, and they did go back a second year,

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Speaker 3: and then they kept they couldn't get over the hume

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Speaker 3: from it, and it was like yeah, then it was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: we can't keep bringing the same group back every year

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Speaker 3: and we losing in the Eastern Conference finals. They went

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Speaker 3: like five or six years in a row.

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Speaker 4: I think it was six year.

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Speaker 6: All right, we gotta breathe right now, getting ready to

552
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Speaker 6: break down what is trending, and then we've come right back.

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Speaker 6: We'll have Dame demishd Dame's Check getting ready to join

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Speaker 6: us as well.

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558
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Speaker 6: And Dave Demishek is joining us now host of the

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Speaker 6: Football America Show on the Lebritarden Network and The Shech

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Speaker 6: Show podcast.

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Speaker 4: Dave Maddy No yet? Are you? What's up? Dave?

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Speaker 9: And to you what's happening Fellas? Happy New Year? Twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty six has gotten off to a grand start. From

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Speaker 9: where I sit. Just in case, I highly doubt I

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Speaker 9: have to let anybody know this, but I'm in Indiana

567
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Speaker 9: University graduate. So I was at the Rose Bowl and

568
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Speaker 9: watching them not just beat, but destroy the Alabama Crimson Tide.

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Speaker 9: I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and I watch them survive

570
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Speaker 9: the Baltimore Ravens. And what's more, I'm a Pittsburgh Penguins fan.

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Speaker 9: They haven't even lost yet this season.

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Speaker 4: Wow, you're looking up?

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Speaker 9: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Guys? You should just hang up now, know having life

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Speaker 4: is good? Boy? I tell you talk more about that game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah last night. I mean they did a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: When you think about what Aaron Rodgers had to do

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Speaker 3: without DK, right, uh, all these all these receivers who

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Speaker 3: haven't even had much experience with him, had to throw

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Speaker 3: the ball that many times. Dave, you know, forty seven times,

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Speaker 3: didn't get didn't turn the ball over, only was sacked

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Speaker 3: a couple times. I mean, that was a tremendous effort

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Speaker 3: to put them in a situation to win and uh

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Speaker 3: and they got it done. That's why they brought them

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Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, listen, I've been plenty cynical about these

587
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Speaker 9: Stealers the last not just this season, but last season too.

588
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Speaker 9: I didn't find it particularly steelery as a longtime fan

589
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Speaker 9: that they were going after what I considered to be

590
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Speaker 9: washed up mercenaries from from other franchises to try and

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Speaker 9: make their way. Nevertheless, you know, the last twenty four hours,

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Speaker 9: it seems to me everybody has just gone right to

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Speaker 9: the end of the book of last night's game.

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Speaker 7: Oh they got lucky.

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Speaker 9: That guy should have made the kick, and that's that,

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Speaker 9: and the Steelers are are fortunate. And in fact, of course,

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Speaker 9: most professional kickers in this day and age do make

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Speaker 9: kicks under fifty yards level would they make them under

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Speaker 9: sixty yards as well? But I'm with you, Rob, I

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Speaker 9: feel like the Steelers played mostly a pretty good game

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Speaker 9: given the context of how those games, but with the

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Speaker 9: Ravens tend to go, they you know, they the Ravens

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Speaker 9: had a number of chances at at ten nothing game open, right,

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Speaker 9: they could have. Really I was waiting for I was

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Speaker 9: waiting for Derek Henry to snap off a forty or

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Speaker 9: sixty yard or to assault it away. But they, you know,

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Speaker 9: they were able to hang around because of the defense.

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Speaker 9: And I've been skeptical of what that defense is capable

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Speaker 9: of doing against a high end offense. But you know,

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Speaker 9: especially after how bad they looked in the first couple

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Speaker 9: of possessions. Man, you know, I'm stunned and excited and

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Speaker 9: all that, and I'm happy with the matchup that it yielded.

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Speaker 9: I think the Houston Texans might be top to bottom

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Speaker 9: the best AFC team left standing here. But I also

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Speaker 9: think that given what we already saw the Chargers do

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Speaker 9: to the Steelers in so far and what the Bills

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Speaker 9: did to the Steelers in Pittsburgh, I think the Texans

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Speaker 9: are their best shot at moving on finally to the

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Speaker 9: divisional round after a decade of never winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 6: You know, I look at this, I mean, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 6: did exactly what he's gonna do if you don't pressure him, right,

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Speaker 6: that is just slice and dice and that's what he

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Speaker 6: did to his credit. One of the things I want

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Speaker 6: to ask you about because you got the tenor of

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Speaker 6: the town the very first quarter. It feels like fans

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Speaker 6: are ready to boo there. They've been booed already, and

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers said, hey, it was boo worthy performance.

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Speaker 4: You know, a handful of weeks ago they've boomed.

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin, what's it because the second half they're exciting,

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Speaker 6: right because they've got something going, they're gonna win the game.

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Speaker 4: What's it like in this city right now? Are they

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Speaker 4: just that desperate for a playoffs? Way a playoff?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 6: Are they ready to blame? Mike Tomlin? What's it like

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Speaker 6: right now?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 9: A tale of two football cities for you. You guys

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Speaker 9: are aware that there is a line drawn between the

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Speaker 9: states of Pennsylvania and Ohio. On the left side of

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Speaker 9: that line is Ohio and Cleveland is there they? I

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Speaker 9: don't know. They won five games all season long, badly

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Speaker 9: one of them against Pittsburgh last week, and what you

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Speaker 9: figured the Steelers had to have if they were going

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Speaker 9: to make the playoffs. But either way, they win all

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Speaker 9: of five games and there they're star players, breaks a record,

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Speaker 9: but only kind of sorta because it took him seventeen games,

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Speaker 9: thank you record. I mean Deacon Jones in three seasons

648
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Speaker 9: in the late sixties had somewhere around twenty two at

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Speaker 9: least in fourteen games, and al Baker did it is

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Speaker 9: as a rookie at sixteen games at seventy anyway, don't

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Speaker 9: we don't have to go through a ball. I mean,

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Speaker 9: seventeen games is at least one game more than it

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Speaker 9: took anybody else, So we're not going to ask for

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Speaker 9: risk it. Nevertheless, Brown carry Miles Garrett off.

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Speaker 4: The field crazy and you wake up in.

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Speaker 9: The morning and they fire the coach, but they carried

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Speaker 9: the guy. So anyway, I bring that up to say,

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Speaker 9: the other side of that is Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh and

659
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Speaker 9: all those Lombardies and everything else. And yeah, Calvin, I

660
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Speaker 9: think they're you know, Mike Tomlin to a degree, and

661
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Speaker 9: more broadly, the Steelers are a victim of their success.

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Speaker 9: It is great I sing songs about Mike Tomlin in

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Speaker 9: the age of free agency and all that can go wrong,

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Speaker 9: that he's never had a losing record in nineteen years.

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Speaker 9: I think we're a cynical society that we can't point

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Speaker 9: at that and celebrate that and say how remarkable it

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Speaker 9: is you have done that. That said, I think the

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Speaker 9: last couple of years have been very frustrating. I've been

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Speaker 9: vexed myself, like I already said about the decision to

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Speaker 9: bring in Russell Wilson and make him your starter on purpose,

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Speaker 9: and then after seeing how that went a year ago,

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Speaker 9: to say, yeah, let's do the same thing again with

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Speaker 9: another guy who's forty plus and all of that and

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Speaker 9: doesn't look like he's got much much gas left in

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Speaker 9: the tank. But Calvin, I'm with you, man him stroking

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Speaker 9: those throws in the second half, especially if you're a

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Speaker 9: human being. Imagine you just put up six points against

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Speaker 9: the bum Browns and you insisted on targeting mvs three

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Speaker 9: straight times to end that game a week ago, and

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Speaker 9: that now you hear the boo birds and now you're

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Speaker 9: responsible for the Mike Tomlin era. Maybe ending that was

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Speaker 9: a legit buzz in my opinion, and that all all

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Speaker 9: the gravity on your shoulders Aaron Rodgers like, hey man,

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Speaker 9: you don't have DK metcap, you don't have all the

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Speaker 9: weapons that you'd like to have out here. You have

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Speaker 9: to save the day here and to his credit, he

687
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Speaker 9: saved the day man with some big time throws. But

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Speaker 9: like I say, I also think you got to shout

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Speaker 9: out the defense for repressing them through three quarters at

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Speaker 9: least before it turned into an insane shootout like you've

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Speaker 9: never seen before between these.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a fun game. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a playoff game, and I just I'm just

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Speaker 3: not going to buy into the you know, the missfield

695
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Speaker 3: goal because the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Missed an extra point, right, I have made it so

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Speaker 4: people don't talk. Come, we don't talk about the extra.

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Speaker 3: Point that was made, I mean missed, and the idea

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Speaker 3: we could sit here all day. I could undress Tom

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Speaker 3: Brady's career if you want to talk about plays Dave

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Speaker 3: that were left on and then the Falcons not running

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Speaker 3: the ball first and ten at to twenty two and

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Speaker 3: passing the ball and the tuck rule and spy get

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Speaker 3: I could go over all that.

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Speaker 9: Rob, you are on the short list of my spiritual

706
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Speaker 9: brothers where this is concerned you and I love doing

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Speaker 9: the what if yes election points. The butterfly effect. Tom

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Speaker 9: Brady is the number one in pro football history, at

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Speaker 9: least because you know, here's a good one for you.

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Speaker 9: To consider. If Archie didn't meet Olivia in Oxford, Mississippis.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going with you too, I'm done.

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Speaker 9: Then then Tom Brady wins like eleven or.

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Speaker 7: Thirteen mart Yes.

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Speaker 9: But on the other hand, you know, if not for

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Speaker 9: Kyrie and for Eli on another big throat to Manningham

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Speaker 9: and so you can also give the Patriots three or

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Speaker 9: four more rings. So you can what if at all

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Speaker 9: you want. That's the way the cookie crumbles in football.

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Speaker 9: Obviously it was the last play. So the you know, the.

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Speaker 3: For you kickers miss field goal in games, it's not him.

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Speaker 3: He was twenty eight No no, no, no, no, that kid.

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Speaker 3: That was his first walk off dave, first walk off

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Speaker 3: attempt in his career.

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Speaker 4: He never had a kick to win a game like that.

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Speaker 4: He didn't.

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Speaker 3: And I bet you if you pulled the shorts down,

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Speaker 3: they were brown. Oh I'm just telling you, all right,

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Speaker 3: thank you for that. Calvin kleinad well, think.

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Speaker 7: About think about to the bookends.

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Speaker 9: And I don't know if it's Shakespeare in tragedy, if

731
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Speaker 9: it's just downright biblical kind of stuff. But remember Justin

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Speaker 9: Tucker comes to the Baltimore Ravens because in a playoff game,

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Speaker 9: Billy Kundiff misses a gimme field goal that would have

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Speaker 9: tied the game and sent it to overtime. In Foxborough,

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Speaker 9: they cut him. They bring in Justin Tucker. He wins

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Speaker 9: them an outsize percentage of games over the course of

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Speaker 9: his time there. I don't know what ever happened to

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Speaker 9: that guy, but anyway, Yeah, we.

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Speaker 4: Can't go there.

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Speaker 6: Hey Dave, we got a break. Yeah, appreciate you man.

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Speaker 6: Happy New Year to.

742
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Speaker 11: You, you two fellas.

743
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Speaker 7: Take good care.

744
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Speaker 9: Here we go, Steelers, Here we go.

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Speaker 4: I could hear my half phones is breaking up some

746
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: like you said here all right?

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Speaker 6: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven

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Speaker 6: ninety nine on Fox. Last Car, Rob, that's right, last

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Speaker 6: car you've wanted to get in all day. Here's a

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Speaker 6: chance it's the couple. Fox Sports Radio, Oh God, that's it.

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Speaker 6: Just one more k That's it.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 2: listen live.

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Speaker 13: Fox Sports three, Cosby's House two.

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Speaker 4: I had a drink and I woke up disrobed. I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna lay that alone. You're so dumb. It's the right,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, this is gonna be the only one show.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be the solo show exactly.

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Speaker 6: Our couple Robin Kelvin on a Magic City Monday, great

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Speaker 6: short shoots to.

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Speaker 4: Cringe all the time, like, oh God, what did he just?

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Speaker 4: I can imagine. I know what I've endured, but I've

767
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Speaker 4: been costing him so much money with the King movement.

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Speaker 4: Rodney of no idea.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised I didn't derail it total no.

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Speaker 4: Because see that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Jesus was running with people that needed some some some guidance.

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Speaker 4: You wasn't running that far, you know. No, he was

773
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Speaker 4: pulling up on him. He pulled a right up on hers,

774
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Speaker 4: tried to act Magic City mondays real quick. That's right

775
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Speaker 4: for his brand. We had to stand up to them.

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Speaker 4: So that's how you got worship wednds.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's about you know. I like that compromise though,

778
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Speaker 6: And then y'all had a nerd to come to me.

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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: You know, you could change words to Wednesday. First of all, Lord,

780
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Speaker 6: and if loving the Lord is wrong, I don't be right.

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Speaker 4: That's number one. Number two wanted to make it heathen winds. No,

782
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Speaker 4: how much more do you want?

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Speaker 6: We got Magic City Monday, we got what you got Thursday, Thursdays, trap,

784
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Speaker 6: trap Tuesdays?

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Speaker 11: What more?

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Speaker 4: You out? My god? All right? From the back Fridays?

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Speaker 4: What like, way back, like from the back of the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: throw back, yeah, throwing that. That's what I said. As

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Speaker 4: long as you what?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Come on, let's go last call, last call.

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Speaker 6: Let's get to it, last call, last last call.

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Speaker 2: Time on the odd car.

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Speaker 3: We got Harold in Chicago. You're on the odd couple

795
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Speaker 3: of Fox Sports Radio. I do know one Harold in Chicago.

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00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't think this is in Chicago. What's up, Harold?

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Speaker 9: Maybe?

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Speaker 11: What's going on? Guys? Long time caller, a long time listener,

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Speaker 11: many time calls.

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Speaker 4: Yes, what's up, buddy man?

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Speaker 14: Just like I did on New Year's Day, I came

802
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 14: to congratulate Rob on his madness that keeps happening ever

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00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 14: since Tom Brady football died. He is on this hYP

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00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 14: percentage streak that's just just out of control.

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00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 11: And you know what to give Kelvinson bail when it

806
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 11: comes to pregame stuff. Kelvin always sounds more logical. Ravens

807
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 11: had better individual players, four more at home, there's no wind,

808
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 11: and this is where Lamar shines. And then all of

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00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 11: a sudden, rob and say something like.

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Speaker 14: Well, Aaron Rodgers' shoes are yellow, and Raven's.

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00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 11: Always fumbled and he'll be right. And I have no

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Speaker 11: idea how he keep doing it. It's madness, but there's

813
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 11: a method to his madness.

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00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 11: I can't call it look anyware.

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Speaker 4: If anyone listened to the show, it's Harrold.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Harold, I appreciate you because it's hard man to keep,

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Speaker 3: you know, knocking him down.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean. You're still talking about your

820
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 6: picture or something else. All right is still coming through.

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00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 6: I'm waiting for my son, I said you nothing yet.

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00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 6: Come on, hey, I'm going out of town.

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Speaker 12: What.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my birthday going on Canada Raptors k k

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Speaker 4: K cake Cake.

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Speaker 3: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.

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Speaker 2: I never missed your radio show.

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Speaker 4: I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did

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Speaker 4: you hear that