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Speaker 1: around the country. Play of the day, stat of the
Speaker 1: day poll question all to that forthcoming. There was a
Speaker 1: story in the Tampa Bay Times yesterday raising some questions
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. Rick Stroud, a frequent
Speaker 1: guest on this show, has covered the team for a
Speaker 1: long time. He reported Brady had an MCL injury last season.
Speaker 1: The team didn't disclose the injury, which would be problematic
Speaker 1: under league rules. With gambling becoming legal and more and
Speaker 1: more states, the validity of that injury report more important
Speaker 1: than ever. But beyond those questions, it's worth noting that
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was playing on an injured knees forty three
Speaker 1: led his team, of course, to the Super Bowl on
Speaker 1: that injured neam. I guess it's not like Brady could
Speaker 1: move much before, but still remarkable that he pulled it
Speaker 1: off and we're finding the update for Ian Rappaport was
Speaker 1: a torn MCL. It was first a partial tear of
Speaker 1: the MCL. Now you can play on a torn MCL.
Speaker 1: Joe l Embiid did this during the playoffs with the
Speaker 1: seventy six, but a full terror means you have to
Speaker 1: have surgery eventually. I don't know if you were looking
Speaker 1: at a prop bet in the Super Bowl rushing total
Speaker 1: of a half a yard in the Super Bowl for
Speaker 1: Brady actually ran for minus two and maybe we now
Speaker 1: know why even with a fully formed MCL. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that he would have gotten over that number but
Speaker 1: for gambling or entertainment purposes only. But we've seen teams
Speaker 1: fine for not we're basically violating the NFL injury report policy.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins they were fined last year, the Steelers were fined,
Speaker 1: and the Detroit Lions were fined. Back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: the NFL find the Lions more than one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for failing to properly update injury status of Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: This is a big deal. I mean, it may not
Speaker 1: sound like a big deal, but if you're a gambler,
Speaker 1: it is a big deal. You want to know is
Speaker 1: their transparency? Now? Remember we had Brian Urlocker, the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame linebacker, on it and he said, look, I
Speaker 1: lie for a living. I have to. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell you what my injury is. But this is
Speaker 1: you know, game, the game, week to week, month to month, preseason, postseason.
Speaker 1: You don't want to tell anybody how you're really feeling.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Brady hid this, did he
Speaker 1: come with this injury. I think that there has been
Speaker 1: a report that Brady might have had this injury when
Speaker 1: he was with the Patriots, and of course the Patriots
Speaker 1: aren't going to tell you anything. But then don't they
Speaker 1: put didn't they put Brady on the injured list pretty
Speaker 1: much every week for the last fifteen years. Probable shoulder
Speaker 1: but as far as a knee injury goes. But we'll
Speaker 1: talk to Albert Brier about this. We're seeing this in
Speaker 1: other sports. Connor McGregor has now come out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, basically, Dana White, the UFC knew that I
Speaker 1: had this injury, this stress fracture going into the fight.
Speaker 1: Go back to Manny Pakio against Floyd Mayweather. He had
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury. Freddie Roach, the trainer. I did an
Speaker 1: interview with him, and Freddie said, I knew that he
Speaker 1: had this injury, but I couldn't stop it because I said,
Speaker 1: did you think about saying, hey, you know, let me
Speaker 1: go and tell people we can't win. I don't want
Speaker 1: him out there fighting. He said there was too much
Speaker 1: money at stake. He couldn't do anything about it. And
Speaker 1: imagine if you're a gambler and you knew that, would
Speaker 1: you have put money on Manny Pacio with an injured shoulder,
Speaker 1: probably not, but total transparency? What is total transparency? And
Speaker 1: I don't know if how the NFL cracks down on this.
Speaker 1: Does the NFL find the Buccaneers? What if the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: say we didn't know it, We don't have any paper
Speaker 1: trail here. I don't know what their physical was like.
Speaker 1: Did Brady come in and say, I'm good, Hey, you
Speaker 1: got anything needs a surgically repaired? Nope? How's your shoulder good?
Speaker 1: Obviously you can't run, so we don't worry about your legs.
Speaker 1: Got any MRIs anything we need a note? Nope? Now
Speaker 1: I don't know if that happened. But if I'm a team,
Speaker 1: if I'm a player, I don't want to have full disclosure.
Speaker 1: But the NFL was asking for that, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be there's gonna be billions of dollars gambled legally. And
Speaker 1: I want to know what role the leagues will play
Speaker 1: in giving you that transparency. If you knew that Connor
Speaker 1: McGregor had a stress fracture in his leg going into
Speaker 1: that fight, would you have bet on him? Vegas would
Speaker 1: have changed the line. But what is full transparency? And
Speaker 1: does the UFC need to do that? Do they feel
Speaker 1: compelled to do that. I don't know Dana whitz Is.
Speaker 1: You know, he's the commissioner, the president, He's the one
Speaker 1: that he answered anybody now maybe Las Vegas. Maybe you
Speaker 1: know Vegas will have a review board there. We called
Speaker 1: for data. White Lend just curious about it. Did he
Speaker 1: actually know that, you know, Connor McGregor had a stress
Speaker 1: fracture in his leg. Yes, Todd, I understand the gambling aspect,
Speaker 1: But think of any other line of work. Say you
Speaker 1: have a presentation in front of the board, or you're
Speaker 1: trying to pitch a product, and you didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to get what you wrote down like weeks in advance.
Speaker 1: At the last day, you just threw something together and
Speaker 1: maybe it's a really good presentation. Do you have to
Speaker 1: let everyone in the room know. I just want to
Speaker 1: let you know I just wrote this like five minutes ago,
Speaker 1: this presentation I'm about to do. To be completely honest
Speaker 1: with you, just think about how that would be in
Speaker 1: any other line of business. You should be able to
Speaker 1: just do your thing and not have to worry about
Speaker 1: being upfront about every little thing leading up to them.
Speaker 1: What's that have to do with injuries? Like? Why do
Speaker 1: you have to let people know the degree of injury
Speaker 1: of a player. Not Why is that other than the
Speaker 1: gambling aspect. Why does that have to be a thing.
Speaker 1: You know, if someone's got a bad knee, why would
Speaker 1: you give the opponent the advantage and say, you know,
Speaker 1: go after my quarterback's knee, he's got a banged up
Speaker 1: mcl Well, but the NFL has like this is what
Speaker 1: they need to do for total transparency for gambling. Guy's
Speaker 1: a gambler. I need to know. Remember, they didn't even
Speaker 1: want to talk about point spreads or the injury report never,
Speaker 1: They wouldn't even acknowledge it. But now you're in business.
Speaker 1: Now you're in the gambling business, and yes we should know.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton tells us everything that's wrong with him. He's
Speaker 1: like my daughter when I say how was school, and
Speaker 1: she'll talk for ten minutes, Well, well, and then I
Speaker 1: got to school, and then Camel go, you know, my shoulder,
Speaker 1: and then my knee, and then I had an ankle,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm a club. Big Band'll tell you things
Speaker 1: that aren't even her. Yeah that's true. Big Ben famously,
Speaker 1: before a game on Sunday Night on NBC, says to
Speaker 1: Al Michael's about an injury he has, and then Michelle Tafoya,
Speaker 1: I think tracked down Mike Tomo, who say, hey, Ben's
Speaker 1: got this injury. That's news to me, Like I was
Speaker 1: just saying, uh, yeah, I don't know. I just shoulder here.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna make it here. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna live through this game tonight,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. We'll strap them on, just like all
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Speaker 1: P Show mcleven you got a pull question today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a question. If you were a big time
Speaker 1: athlete and you were hurt, would you tell people? No?
Speaker 1: You that was quick. No, I don't want anybody to know.
Speaker 1: But unless it benefits me, some athletes will tell you,
Speaker 1: and they want to tell you in case something goes
Speaker 1: wrong that they always have something to fall back on,
Speaker 1: like hey, you know I've been bothered by this shoulder
Speaker 1: and Lebron talks about it. Brady hit it. Remember Drew
Speaker 1: Brees had a rib injury. A rib injury, no, he
Speaker 1: had it was plural. He had eleven rib injuries. I
Speaker 1: didn't know how many ribs you had. I think he
Speaker 1: he had extra ones that got hurt. Yeah, pulling. He
Speaker 1: should have announced he had two healthy ribs. How are
Speaker 1: you feeling good? Both my ribs are healthy. Yes. In
Speaker 1: a contact sport, you have to hide it so they
Speaker 1: don't go after that bad part of your body. But
Speaker 1: what's wrong with if it's not a contact sport. I
Speaker 1: would totally say, if there's something not right about you,
Speaker 1: you got that built an excuse if you don't play
Speaker 1: as well as opposed to doing an afterway, you look like, oh,
Speaker 1: the reason I lost was I sably should have mentioned,
Speaker 1: but yeah, my back has been bothering me. You got
Speaker 1: to get that out there ahead of time. As weak
Speaker 1: as that is. You certainly can't do it after the
Speaker 1: fact after you lose. Thank you, John. Uh yeah, mcclen
Speaker 1: he just ran it about how they were disclosed the injuries.
Speaker 1: He's like, but if you got a contact sport, you
Speaker 1: can't tell anyone. You gotta lie about it. But every
Speaker 1: sport we're talking about as a contact sport, but it's football, well,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like golf, baseball, tennis, where they can't
Speaker 1: like go after a body part if it's like beat
Speaker 1: football or basketball. Those are sports where you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: hide it from everyone because they're gonna go right after
Speaker 1: this this Friday, Fritzie. Because it's early. We're twelve minutes in.
Speaker 1: Am I not making sense about sense about the presentation?
Speaker 1: You know it wasn't any Well, no, if you're yes,
Speaker 1: Paul checking my records. About four minutes ago, Todd said
Speaker 1: the NFL should bang on these teams and punish them
Speaker 1: and enforce the rules, and they should not lie about injuries.
Speaker 1: They should listen to the NFL rules. If they're gonna
Speaker 1: be all in on sports betting, I understand the betting.
Speaker 1: And then a minute ago, he said the athletes who
Speaker 1: play for contact sports like the NFL should lie about injuries.
Speaker 1: So he said both, if they're gonna be greedy and
Speaker 1: take all the sports betting money, then I understand they
Speaker 1: have to regulate it. But I back to you in
Speaker 1: the studio, maybe we need to workshop this a little bit,
Speaker 1: A workshop it a little bit. Yeah, it's funny. I
Speaker 1: kind of understand where Todd's coming from, Doom, because like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're saying two different things. Well, I know, but I
Speaker 1: understand that if you're Connor mcgrayor, you do not want
Speaker 1: it out there that you have a stress factory or
Speaker 1: lake because everyone's gonna pound on it. But the but
Speaker 1: UFC should have been there should have been full disclosure
Speaker 1: with that. But if you're an NFL head coach, you're
Speaker 1: certainly not going to tell that people where your quarterback
Speaker 1: is injured. That's the problem. That's why this is what
Speaker 1: you sign up for when you have professional gambling. Legal
Speaker 1: legal gambling. Right, But it's a tricky situation because teams
Speaker 1: don't want to risk their players health by a by disclosi.
Speaker 1: It's it's a hard one to solve. Yeah, why are
Speaker 1: an injury is just part of the gamble. I mean
Speaker 1: you're gambling, you're already taking the risk. Sorry, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: turns out his knee was messed up by okay, but
Speaker 1: then don't have an injury rupe part of the gamble.
Speaker 1: Don't don't have an injury report. Then if that's the case,
Speaker 1: just say it. I don't know. See what they're worried
Speaker 1: about is insider trading when somebody says, hey, you know
Speaker 1: what if somebody said, hey, I'm here and Connor McGregor
Speaker 1: got a stress fracture. Okay, that changes the betting dramatically.
Speaker 1: It just does you know whether it's real or not,
Speaker 1: the perception of it, or how it's going to affect him.
Speaker 1: It does, it does affect and as a gambler, a
Speaker 1: former gambler, I would want to know that. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's what these leagues signed up for. Either
Speaker 1: that or don't have injury reports. But you're going to
Speaker 1: get inside information, and that's what they're worried about. Somebody
Speaker 1: can tell somebody and it could have a huge effect
Speaker 1: on the game. Yeah. I think I've always like, let's say,
Speaker 1: a borderline, entry level, mediocre NFL player, I would lie
Speaker 1: and hide every injury. But once you get to the
Speaker 1: level of Roethlisberger Brady, your job is safe and you
Speaker 1: could talk about them and admit you have them. But
Speaker 1: Brady hid the surgery. I don't know how, but not
Speaker 1: one NFL reporter had the Brady had a surgery in February. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: this is what the NFL and some of these leagues,
Speaker 1: this is what they say nd up for to make
Speaker 1: these billions of dollars. And they got to decide it
Speaker 1: is Tampa gonna be fined? Here is something happening to
Speaker 1: UFC Connor McGregor. No, I don't think so. Maybe Tampa
Speaker 1: gets fined, but it's one hundred thousand dollars if you're
Speaker 1: Tampa and they say how much they gonna find one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand? Yeah worth it? I don't know. By the way,
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Speaker 1: better than us? Albert Brier will join us on loan
Speaker 1: for the Monday Morning quarterback. A couple of things here,
Speaker 1: This Deshaun Watson situation is staring us right in the face.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's going to happen here. But
Speaker 1: is he going to camp? Can he go to camp?
Speaker 1: Can they trade him? It just feels like everybody is
Speaker 1: knee deep with Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson could end
Speaker 1: up going to making a team a whole lot better
Speaker 1: if he's allowed to play, when he's allowed to play,
Speaker 1: if he's allowed to play, is he going to be
Speaker 1: on the commissioner's exemp list, Like, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: We're really close to camp now. I've said all along
Speaker 1: I thought Rogers was going to play, and I'm not
Speaker 1: moving off that opinion. But Deshaun Watson, I have no
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Speaker 1: That's how we do it here on the Dan Patrick Show. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all right. We've been talking about this Tom Brady situation
Speaker 1: that the report is that he played on a fully
Speaker 1: torn MCL the entire season. What what are gamblers? So
Speaker 1: what information should they be getting here? Like, what is
Speaker 1: the NFL going to go after Tampa Bay with this
Speaker 1: information that's just come out. It's a fair question because
Speaker 1: I think we've always known the injury reports have related
Speaker 1: to gambling, right, Like, I don't think that's been a
Speaker 1: big secret, although the NFL could never actually say that
Speaker 1: over the last thirty forty years, however long it's been
Speaker 1: since they've done that. But I do think now that
Speaker 1: it's out in the open a little bit more and
Speaker 1: like the league is more free to speak about this stuff,
Speaker 1: and because they're going to be doing partnerships with casinos, Um,
Speaker 1: I think I think I might be mistake of us.
Speaker 1: I think it's a couple of teams already have those,
Speaker 1: like the Caesar's partnerships and everything else. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're going to get a little more serious about
Speaker 1: it because in the past, I think they've worked with
Speaker 1: teams on these things and try to make sure that
Speaker 1: at least competitively it was equitable from team to team.
Speaker 1: But now that you're actually, you know, out in the
Speaker 1: open doing partnerships with gambling companies, and maybe there'll be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a shift. Um, It'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see because I do know, and I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, you know, flat out, Dan, like Brady, doesn't
Speaker 1: like his injuries being on that report, like he would
Speaker 1: do when he was in New England, do whatever it
Speaker 1: took to make sure that those injuries wouldn't be on
Speaker 1: the report. And you know, played with ligament damage in
Speaker 1: his hand in twenty and thirteen, played with a separated
Speaker 1: shoulder in twenty eleven. Le's played through a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I know it was always a priority of his
Speaker 1: to keep that stuff off the injury report, and not
Speaker 1: even like as a team competitive thing, but just to
Speaker 1: prevent players from going after parts of his bodies that
Speaker 1: were banged up. And I understand that, but his Brady
Speaker 1: keeping that from the Patriots, or the Patriots keeping that
Speaker 1: from the world. And that's what's so interesting about it too, Dan,
Speaker 1: is like you look at it and like Brady's almost
Speaker 1: got his own ecosystem, So like you know, where most teams,
Speaker 1: like with most players, it's like the team's trainers, the
Speaker 1: team's doctors are going to know everything. Brady's sort of
Speaker 1: got his own like set up, you know, with Alex
Speaker 1: Guerrero and all the different people that he works with.
Speaker 1: So he's one of the few players where it's plausible
Speaker 1: that like maybe they did hide it from the team
Speaker 1: and maybe and look like I'm just playing Devil's advocate here,
Speaker 1: But if you're Brady and your priority is to keep
Speaker 1: it off the injury report, maybe it makes sense for
Speaker 1: you to say, Alex and I are going to keep
Speaker 1: this to ourselves and we're not going to get the
Speaker 1: bucks in trouble. We're just going to keep it from them.
Speaker 1: I think it's he's one of the few players where
Speaker 1: it's actually plausible that maybe the trainers and the doctors
Speaker 1: had a little less knowledge of the injury than you
Speaker 1: might think. I just had a tweet from one of
Speaker 1: our listeners, John and Georgia, Exactly why do betters have
Speaker 1: a right to know? Seriously, where does this right come from?
Speaker 1: Professional sports somehow has an obligation to mitigate a better's risk?
Speaker 1: Question Mark, Really, why how is that? Like it goes
Speaker 1: back like to like when I was a kid. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can even properly answer that. Dan,
Speaker 1: you might have better insider on it than me. I
Speaker 1: would say, Well, they don't want insider trading. You don't
Speaker 1: want to have somebody tells somebody and it could really
Speaker 1: Let let's say you don't know Patrick Mahomes is going
Speaker 1: to play, right, and you decide to jump on, you know,
Speaker 1: saying the Chargers playing Kansas City because Mahomes, you know,
Speaker 1: is not going to play. That's what they're trying trying
Speaker 1: to avoid. Or he's going to play, but he's got
Speaker 1: an injured toe and he's really they don't want the
Speaker 1: money to move based on you know, somebody like me deciding, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've got the injury information and now I'm going to
Speaker 1: commodify it right like, and I'm going to turn into
Speaker 1: something that I can sell that makes sense, Like that
Speaker 1: part makes sense where they wouldn't want that. Explain to
Speaker 1: me what's going on with du Shaun Watson from the
Speaker 1: league's perspective. Can they put him on the Commissioner's exemplest?
Speaker 1: They can do what they want. I can tell you this,
Speaker 1: And you know, they went through this a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago with Tyreek Hill, and I remember the question
Speaker 1: at the time was why weren't they putting him on
Speaker 1: the Commissioner's exemplest over the course of the spring, And
Speaker 1: I think, but I remember the Chiefs actually came to
Speaker 1: an agreement with Tyreek to stay away from their spring
Speaker 1: workouts because they just wanted to let the legal situation
Speaker 1: play out. You know, the league's stance on these things
Speaker 1: is they won't do it until they have to. And
Speaker 1: what's interesting is because the fine system has changed, and
Speaker 1: because you can't forgive training camp finds anymore, that juncture
Speaker 1: in the calendar might come sooner now it might be
Speaker 1: the start of training camp for them, and so I
Speaker 1: think what everybody's waiting for is the legal situation to
Speaker 1: play out. And I think based on the way some
Speaker 1: of these things have gone over the last few years,
Speaker 1: really over the last ten years, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the league wants to come down with any sort of
Speaker 1: ruling without their being legal clarity on how all this
Speaker 1: is going to play out. And so I think my senses,
Speaker 1: the league would probably try to kick the can down
Speaker 1: the road as long as the legal situation is still
Speaker 1: playing out. And the way they kick the can down
Speaker 1: the road Dan is that exemp list, right, Like, they
Speaker 1: put the player on paid leave, and they basically push
Speaker 1: pause in the whole thing. And they've been able to
Speaker 1: push pause in the whole thing because Deshaun didn't show
Speaker 1: up in the spring, right, so it wasn't an issue.
Speaker 1: But now with the training camp reporting date being whatever
Speaker 1: it is, a week and a half, two weeks away,
Speaker 1: they you know, you would think that they would be
Speaker 1: they would have to make a decision on whether or
Speaker 1: not to put them on the exemp list, unless you know,
Speaker 1: Watson's lawyers can find a way to reach a settlement
Speaker 1: between now and July twenty seventh. But then the league
Speaker 1: is probably going to discipline DeShawn Watson. I'm guessing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think. I mean I've been asked
Speaker 1: a lot like will he played in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I think there's a possibility, and there's a good chance
Speaker 1: he plays in twenty twenty one. I do not think
Speaker 1: he'll be playing for any team in Week one. So
Speaker 1: I think that this and this is regardless of what
Speaker 1: happens in court, because you know, I think it's gotten
Speaker 1: to the point where the commissioner can say, you put
Speaker 1: yourself in a bad spot, and in turn, that put
Speaker 1: the league in a bad spot. And so you you
Speaker 1: brought you brought negative publicity to the NFL, which is
Speaker 1: basically the grounds for suspending Ben Roethlisberger in twenty and ten.
Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, Ben Roethlisberger, if there's
Speaker 1: a settlement, I think the Ben Roethlisberger case becomes the
Speaker 1: president and they say, all right, like, we're going to
Speaker 1: take you off the field for eight games, and if
Speaker 1: you hit certain conditions, it goes down to six or
Speaker 1: six games, and with certain conditions it goes down to four.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably what we're looking at. And then
Speaker 1: once you have that clarity, then I think we can
Speaker 1: start to talk about, you know, when is he going
Speaker 1: to be traded? Are you more curious about Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks or Aaron Rodgers? I
Speaker 1: would say Aaron Rodgers, just because, like I think that
Speaker 1: there's a good chance, there's a decent chance that some
Speaker 1: sort of arrangement is worked out where if we don't
Speaker 1: have clarity in the legal situation, like the league is
Speaker 1: going to find a way to make it so Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson doesn't show up in Houston, because I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody wants what would happen if he showed up there, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think the league wants it. I don't think
Speaker 1: DeShawn wants it. I don't think the Texans want it right.
Speaker 1: Whereas with Rogers, there's a hard date July twenty seven,
Speaker 1: he shows up, he doesn't like to me like, that's
Speaker 1: the most interesting one. And I think there's a much
Speaker 1: better chance that Rogers plays for the Packers in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one than Watson plays for the Texans in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. But there's obviously a lot that needs to
Speaker 1: be worked out, and you know, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of what needs to be worked out is going to
Speaker 1: come down to, can you fix the communication issue at
Speaker 1: least temporarily so the Packers who believe they have a
Speaker 1: championship roster right now can have their quarterback back in
Speaker 1: a short term, in the very least. What happens on
Speaker 1: the twenty seventh with Aaron Rodgers, he explained the financial
Speaker 1: aspect of that. Let's say he doesn't show up. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't show up, then they can start finding him
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. They aren't required to start finding him
Speaker 1: unless there's some sort of extenuating circumstance. They're required to
Speaker 1: start finding him fifty thousand dollars a day. If he
Speaker 1: misses preseason games, he gets docked more. And the difference
Speaker 1: this year versus what it was two years ago and
Speaker 1: before that is that those fines cannot be forgiven, and
Speaker 1: teams in general would almost routinely forgive these fines. Like
Speaker 1: you remember Aaron Donald, Like I think it was two
Speaker 1: full training camps he missed, right, paid zero for that, right,
Speaker 1: Like he came in the rams forgave all the fines
Speaker 1: like no problem. And that was sort of part of
Speaker 1: the impetus for the owners saying we're sick of this,
Speaker 1: like teams aren't adhering to this, we can't really use
Speaker 1: this as a hammer. And so certain owners said, like,
Speaker 1: let's put it in the CBA that you can't forgive
Speaker 1: the fines now, so we all have a very real
Speaker 1: hammer here. And so now like the Packers are in
Speaker 1: this spot where it's like or the Packers and Rogers
Speaker 1: are in this spot where if he misses day as
Speaker 1: a camp they have to find him and they can't
Speaker 1: go back and and and forgive those fines. Now, there
Speaker 1: are obviously things you can do, like you could build
Speaker 1: that money back into a contract extension, right, Like, so
Speaker 1: there are things that you can do. But it definitely
Speaker 1: I think kind of casts a different light on on holdouts.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think like what we're gonna see
Speaker 1: with some of these and the Rogers is separate for it,
Speaker 1: like Stephon Gilmour, for example, with the Patriots. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if Stephan Gilmour shows up on July twenty
Speaker 1: seventh and then says that torn quad I had last
Speaker 1: year not ready and it's not going to be ready
Speaker 1: for a little while, so it's not going to be
Speaker 1: ready to a new contractor is ready right right, It's
Speaker 1: like the instead of a holdout, it's a hold in.
Speaker 1: You know, is cam Newton still the starter in New England? So,
Speaker 1: like I would say, the most the way New England's
Speaker 1: program is set up, they'll tell you the spring is
Speaker 1: set up to focus on fundamentals, on teaching and on conditioning.
Speaker 1: That said, what a rookie can accomplish in the spring
Speaker 1: is he can set up a competition for the summer.
Speaker 1: And that's what they'll all tell you is they'll say
Speaker 1: a rookie can't win a job in the spring, but
Speaker 1: he can at the very least put himself in the mix.
Speaker 1: And from everything that I heard over the last three months,
Speaker 1: mac Jones did that. So mac Jones has created a
Speaker 1: situation where he can compete for the job in July
Speaker 1: and August. Now, is Bill Belichick going to be comfortable
Speaker 1: going with a rookie quarterback in week one? Would he
Speaker 1: be comfortable putting mac Jones into the spotlight in week
Speaker 1: four where Tom Brady is going to be coming back
Speaker 1: into Foxborough, which would be a big spot, you know,
Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback, I don't care how prepared you
Speaker 1: are to be in the NFL. And mac Jones is
Speaker 1: prepared for the NFL. You know, that's an open question,
Speaker 1: but I do think you know, you know, again, like
Speaker 1: just based on everything that I've heard, that Mac Jones
Speaker 1: did enough from a learning standpoint and from an on
Speaker 1: field performance standpoint in the spring to set up a
Speaker 1: competition starting in late July. And I think at the
Speaker 1: very least it's gonna look like a competition when we
Speaker 1: get to training camp. Which LA team is more interesting?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I'm on the Matthew Stafford bandwagon. Dan,
Speaker 1: like I think, like I think the general public has
Speaker 1: a much like a much lower opinion of him than
Speaker 1: people in football have. Like I think, if you talk
Speaker 1: to scouts, if you talk to coaches, they think this
Speaker 1: guy is outstanding, and the idea of putting him in
Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's offense. And we can argue about like the
Speaker 1: way the rams are set up and how they don't
Speaker 1: have any first round picks until five years for men
Speaker 1: now and all that different stuff, but the idea of
Speaker 1: Sean McVay with Matthew Stafford right now today throwing to
Speaker 1: Robert Woods and Cooper Cup and having Cam Akers behind him,
Speaker 1: and you know, on the other side defense with Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald Jalen Ramsey. I think it's fascinating and so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Matthew Stafford's the MVP of the league,
Speaker 1: and so I would I would give the slight edge
Speaker 1: to the Rams. But like what Brandon Staley's walking into
Speaker 1: with the Chargers is awfully interesting too. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the first year of that stadium actually able
Speaker 1: to have fans in it and all the rest of
Speaker 1: it in the Super Bowl being there now, I think
Speaker 1: both those teams have a chance to be really, really good.
Speaker 1: The Rams is Super Bowl contender. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Chargers are quite there yet, but there's talent on that
Speaker 1: roster Dan, you know, I mean, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: just justin Herbert, it's you know, Mike Williams and and
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and Derwin James and young guys like Kenneth Murray.
Speaker 1: Like that's a it's a really good team. And so
Speaker 1: i'd say Rams legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. Chargers. I think
Speaker 1: I think the chargers may be more of a pain
Speaker 1: in the ass for the Chiefs than anyone else in
Speaker 1: their division. Put it that way. Open invitation joined us
Speaker 1: on to me Friday there, Albert, Okay, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to make it down there. I think it's about a
Speaker 1: two hour drop, maybe when I'm on my way to
Speaker 1: New York in the fall. How far are you guys
Speaker 1: from the train station? Pretty close? Yeah, pretty close. We
Speaker 1: can pick you up. In fact, you can even you
Speaker 1: can even make a request to what you want on
Speaker 1: the menu. There you go, There you go. I'm a
Speaker 1: big smoker guy too, so I'm gonna I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta hit up pearl Off and make sure he sends
Speaker 1: me pictures of whatever comes out of all that later today.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Alberts. Always have a great weekend. All right, Thanks, Dan,
Speaker 1: have a good one. That's Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,
Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback. A couple of phone calls, then we'll
Speaker 1: take a break. Dakota in Iowa, Hey Dakota, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind? Hey? What's up? DP? But first time caller.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this says more about my life
Speaker 1: or your show, but this is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: parts of the day for sure. My question was about, well,
Speaker 1: I heard you bring up for Shaun Watson and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a big inn Ver Broncos fan. My question was,
Speaker 1: have you heard anything so I saw something about it.
Speaker 1: He was talking to I forgot who was Karim Jackson
Speaker 1: or and did an interview with him and said he
Speaker 1: wanted in Denver. If he ends up in Denver, do
Speaker 1: you see Denver as a Super Bowl contender? It depends
Speaker 1: on what you have to give up, Thank you, Dakoda.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how long he's going to have
Speaker 1: to sit out. I know that Adam Schefter floated this
Speaker 1: out here. He wasn't reporting this. He just said keep
Speaker 1: an eye on this, and he brought up the Philadelphia Eagles. Well,
Speaker 1: the Eagles do have some draft picks that they can
Speaker 1: trade to the Texans. They could trade Jalen Hurts to
Speaker 1: the Texans. That to me could make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: The question is when do you get him, what do
Speaker 1: you give up? And if you're the Texans, it's not
Speaker 1: like you can play him and his value goes up.
Speaker 1: You just his value goes up when you know he's available,
Speaker 1: and right now you don't know when he's going to
Speaker 1: be available, if he's going to be available, if he's
Speaker 1: on the Commissioner's examplest, if you know, this case is
Speaker 1: never resolved here in the next six months, Like I
Speaker 1: haven't heard any updates on any of this with any
Speaker 1: kind of settlement here. But he's still going to be
Speaker 1: punished by the NFL. And if you're trading for him,
Speaker 1: what would you want to do? You know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: And Deshaun Watson's on record saying he'd be intrigued by Denver,
Speaker 1: he'd be intrigued to go anywhere right now. He's got
Speaker 1: to get away from the Texans and vice versa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mclen I have a completely nonsensical, against the grain reason
Speaker 1: why I think the Broncos are a sleeping giant. Okay,
Speaker 1: then we should take a break because we have to
Speaker 1: collect our breaths here. We got let America plan their day.
Speaker 1: Oh I mean Colorado Springs. Right now, there's a traffic jam,
Speaker 1: people stuck in their cars waiting to hear this Durango
Speaker 1: duranngo right now? Is that a stand still because they
Speaker 1: want to know what mclovin is going to say about
Speaker 1: the Broncos. We'll take a break. Play of the day
Speaker 1: coming up, more phone calls, and we'll settle on a
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Speaker 1: Before the commercial break, mclov and said he had any
Speaker 1: against the Grain to talk about how great the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos will be this year, apparently still with Drew Locke
Speaker 1: as they're starting quarterback. Well, in my scenario, there's no
Speaker 1: Drew Lockston. Okay, this is why they're sleeping giant. Okay,
Speaker 1: and this is base. Wait wait, don't we have against
Speaker 1: the grain music? Oh yeah, okay, and three yes against
Speaker 1: the clear. So this is the dummestrason ever. But do
Speaker 1: you remember the Broncos before Peyton Manning got there, Tibo
Speaker 1: was a quarterback. Like, they didn't have any wide receiver
Speaker 1: that nobody talked about the receivers or their tight ends,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Tebo gets there. I mean, sorry,
Speaker 1: Peyton gets there and they're amazing. My same theory is
Speaker 1: same color uniforms, that if Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: got there, all of a sudden, this receiver corps would
Speaker 1: be like top five in the NFL based on the
Speaker 1: fact the quarterback. I mean, they do have Jerry Judy,
Speaker 1: Noah fant Uh, Courtland Sutton, Tim Patrick like all these
Speaker 1: guys who didn't do much, would you, but all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they could be awesome with the right quarterback,
Speaker 1: because that's how it works. I think they also have
Speaker 1: a receiver called Noah Chance. No Noah Chance in hell, wow?
Speaker 1: This arm you? Yeah, But if Rodgers was there, would
Speaker 1: it would you be like, oh, wait, these guys are
Speaker 1: so good, So you're trading for Aaron Rodgers. What do
Speaker 1: you give up for Aaron Rodgers? Well, I did say
Speaker 1: it was going to happen. I just said why they
Speaker 1: were a sleeping giant. If you add you know, if
Speaker 1: you had Patrick Mahomes at Denver, they'd be great too. Therefore,
Speaker 1: they're a sleeping giant. Okay, sleeping giant. Don't wake them up.
Speaker 1: I always think back to that story that Dungee told
Speaker 1: told us about how Warren Moon got to Minnesota and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden all his receivers could catch them all.
Speaker 1: He put him between the two numbers. Yes, yeah, actually
Speaker 1: threw a ball that all the receivers could catch in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: That would sure helped Denver. That's all I'm saying. A
Speaker 1: hot take. I don't know. I mean Jerry Judy, he
Speaker 1: didn't have a great rookie season there. It'd be a
Speaker 1: lot easier if Rogers were storry to him. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, thank you, that's that might be with
Speaker 1: the gad with the great music. Yeah, it's a great
Speaker 1: take for you. Oh God, Bill and Florida. Hey Bill,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey Dan? Good morning, Dan Etts,
Speaker 1: Good morning sixty three, A big feed two sixty seven,
Speaker 1: A long time, many time caller. The NHL, I mean,
Speaker 1: the NFL and the NBA need to do what the
Speaker 1: NHL does with injuries. It's an upper body or it's
Speaker 1: a lower body injury, that is it. We didn't find
Speaker 1: out some days after the final that kuture Offers playing
Speaker 1: with three broken ribs and one of the other players
Speaker 1: to a bar in his leg. Yeah, I know, thank you, Bill,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But I'm going to read what Mike
Speaker 1: Florio wrote on Pro Football Talk. Now that the NFL,
Speaker 1: through its in house media conglomerate, has reported that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady had as A had a fully torn mcl on
Speaker 1: his left knee, the violation becomes even more glaring. The
Speaker 1: league persist in its refusal to address the matter, however,
Speaker 1: we will decline comment, NFL's spokesman Brian McCarthy told Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk yesterday, and so the team's lack of transparency
Speaker 1: becomes compounded by the league's lack of transparency. While that
Speaker 1: strategy may work in the short term, these issues could
Speaker 1: eventually create major problems for the league as more states
Speaker 1: legalized wagering on sports, and as more legislators and or
Speaker 1: prosecutors realize that cheating now has consequences that extend far
Speaker 1: beyond the NFL's thirty two teams, affecting the integrity of
Speaker 1: the bets made on the games. Yeah, we've come a
Speaker 1: long way from the league five six years ago distancing
Speaker 1: himself from gambling. Tony Romo, Yeah, issuing a statement that
Speaker 1: says we have to protect the integrity of our gambling partnerships.
Speaker 1: Tony Romo wanted to do a fantasy draft in Vegas
Speaker 1: at a casino. There wasn't there. There wasn't gambling, there's
Speaker 1: no betting involved, and the NFL goes, Nope, you can't
Speaker 1: do that. Now they would welcome that. Wait, you only
Speaker 1: have one draft. Why don't you have another draft, Tony?
Speaker 1: And we don't know anything about point spreads? Nope, we
Speaker 1: don't know anything. Reese in Texas, Hi, Reese nine one
Speaker 1: sixty first on long time, let's call him. If the
Speaker 1: NFL's in business with all the sports foods and the
Speaker 1: teams are as well, then I believe that to do
Speaker 1: the injury report too, because they can entice action one
Speaker 1: way or the other. If Tom Brady's alpha an injury,
Speaker 1: the league knows that we don't, they could put the
Speaker 1: line as a pickle versus the Jets. Everyone's going to
Speaker 1: bet on the Bucks and then Brady doesn't play. Just
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on that. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: they want to And I've been told this by somebody
Speaker 1: in the league office, but this was a long time
Speaker 1: ago that they said, you know, we just don't want
Speaker 1: inside information getting out there, and the value of that.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're a trainer. Let's say you're making x number.
Speaker 1: Let's say you make one hundred thousand dollars and you
Speaker 1: have information that says this guy is definitely not going
Speaker 1: to play or nobody knows this, but this guy is
Speaker 1: going to play. Well, that information is really valuable and
Speaker 1: that's what the NFL has to guard against here. Just
Speaker 1: does I also wondered about this. Do you think Brady
Speaker 1: Brady's camp leak this that he had a fully torn MCL?
Speaker 1: Is it? I mean it highlights what Brady was able
Speaker 1: to do at age forty three, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and he won a Super Bowl with a partially or
Speaker 1: fully torn not partially it was fully torn MCO. Right,
Speaker 1: I mean they've hit it for five months. I you know,
Speaker 1: I just throw it out there that if you're looking
Speaker 1: at it, who benefits from this information being out there?
Speaker 1: Why is it coming out now? It feels like it
Speaker 1: could be Yeah, knee surgery. Really yeah, fully torn hims. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're the goat of all goats. You know,
Speaker 1: Jordan came back and cleared up the flu game. Right.
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