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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is rut Fresh

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Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortics Optics across the country. Things are

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Speaker 1: changing the ruts. Some places in full swing, some places's

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Speaker 1: tape ring off, and we have new seasons coming in.

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Speaker 1: You can either embrace the changes or brace for the changes.

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Speaker 1: Either one, it's time to get in the woods. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the rut Fresh Radio podcast. I'm your host Casey Smith.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Jones is on the couch here and me and

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Speaker 1: we have another special super special appearance of the one

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Speaker 1: and only chocoed deer hunter Mark Kenyon. What's up, bro?

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that if someone made shock gos

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Speaker 1: and camouflage, they would absolutely kill in the field. All right.

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Speaker 1: I think there's people never mind, No, there's not. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know people who would wear those. Actually,

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Speaker 1: how do they do with climbing sticks? That's the thing

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Speaker 1: I would be concerned about. You know, like, well that

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Speaker 1: the functionality is something you're gonna know about. So tell

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Speaker 1: you that's the thing is chockos Like for those who

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Speaker 1: don't know. Chacos are like heavy duty sandals, either like

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Speaker 1: flip flops or there's a version that kind of goes

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Speaker 1: like that. And they're made for hiking, rafting, fishing, that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So they actually have a really thick

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Speaker 1: and really grippy, uh soul that you could go like

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Speaker 1: up the climbing sticks. I could sit up there company

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Speaker 1: as can be. I'll hike back two miles on public

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Speaker 1: can vouch that you will hike two miles real quick too.

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Speaker 1: It's true. You've seen it long shrides. How long shrides.

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Speaker 1: I've had to keep up with that man. Uh you know.

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Speaker 1: I tried chocos one time and I was in Washington State.

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Speaker 1: My wife had bottom for me, and I thought these

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Speaker 1: what it was with the straps just destroyed my feet.

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Speaker 1: So I never won again. I do feel like there's

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Speaker 1: bit of like a rough spot or something. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your feet have the rough spots for sure. You used

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Speaker 1: to know that a side it's just like tan, just

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Speaker 1: like tan leather, like a good it looks like an elephant.

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Speaker 1: You ever seen how when the elephant foot flexes when

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Speaker 1: your feet. Like, So are we talking about what we

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Speaker 1: can we can other people do that? You know in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You have deer hunted though, right, just

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Speaker 1: not in chocolates, like, but you have not in Chaco.

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Speaker 1: But I have been deer hunting. I hunted the last

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Speaker 1: And you're a pioneer in this space, man, And like

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Speaker 1: bedding cover. I mean, if the doors are gonna be there,

426
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: especially with how things have kind of shaken out this year,

427
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, there's still some hot doors running around. So

428
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 1: if you can find those betting areas, even if they're

429
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,479
Speaker 1: not you know, pushing dear, you know, there's still a

430
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: really good chance that you get a buck just cruising

431
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 1: by checking those areas. Yeah, cool man, that sounds like

432
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: a good strategy, and I think you are ready to

433
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: rock and roll. You still have a tag left, right, yep?

434
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: So I filled my archery tag here in Wisconsin, so

435
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 1: I still have my rifle tag though, So I've got

436
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: six more days of the rifle season here. Yeah, so yeah,

437
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get done nice man. That's cool. So

438
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: if you had to look forward to the next week,

439
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: you're kind of three the Thanksgiving holiday and had to

440
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: rank buck movement on the scale of one to tea

441
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: in what would you call it? Yeah, so, I definitely

442
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be slowing down a little bit from

443
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: what we've seen in the past week, but it's not

444
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna be terrible. I'd put it probably around a six,

445
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: just with the gun season pressure, and I think they're

446
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: into starting to get, like I said, a little bit

447
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: into that lockdown phase. I think they're gonna start slowing

448
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of that movement. But I mean, like

449
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: I said, anything can happen this time of year. Yeah,

450
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: six is a good number, man. I mean that's a

451
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: good hunting day if you're thinking about you know, uh,

452
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: the realistic terms, and uh we also call that the

453
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 1: mid Midwest six now because all you Midwest. He's love

454
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: to say six, I think because you're kind of like

455
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 1: barely optimistic, but you don't want to give it too

456
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: much credit, you know. So it's a coming answer. Yeah,

457
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a complete downer where you're like,

458
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going out, but it's still enough to do

459
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: some Yeah, that's like the you know how the Wisconsin

460
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: Badgers do at the beginning of the season, right, they

461
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: kind of win a couple of games to get you

462
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: going and then let you down later right too soon.

463
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, Man. We appreciate the report, dude, and

464
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: I hope you do find some success very soon, sir.

465
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: They appreciate it, guys. Good luck to you out there

466
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: all right now on the phone, I've got Daniel Powell.

467
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: He's a realtor from Alabama, and he just shot a

468
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: buck that I think would make most dudes and most

469
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: states pretty jealous. How's it going, Daniel, It's coming pretty good.

470
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: How you doing talking? I'm doing well, man, I'm I'm

471
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, a little worn out from the hunt this morning,

472
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: but um, and it wasn't quite as successful as you've

473
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: had lately. But tell me a little bit about the

474
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: buck man and and uh what was he doing? I mean,

475
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: I kinda want to hear about him. He looks he

476
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: looks big. Now, pictures can lie one way or the

477
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: other a lot of times, but he looks like a toad. Yeah. Um,

478
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: definitely around here we would say he's a mature buck.

479
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: I mean, he was. We got him scored right now,

480
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: one sixty seven three quarters. We'll get us opinion on that,

481
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: but right now I think he's all over one sixty

482
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: eight for sure. Give him what he got, man, give

483
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: him and give him all of that's right. And I

484
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: really didn't have much history with this dear, I tell you.

485
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: And then uh, far as what he was doing, he

486
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: was traveling. This dude was a traveling deer. After talking

487
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: to neighbors, because I never talked to any of the

488
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: neighbors about this dear prior horse. But once it got

489
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: on social media and Instagram. Two days after I killed

490
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: that dear, I mean, my phone started drinking, and uh

491
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: it was neighbors, you know, Collins saying they had pictures

492
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: of this deer and one of them that had a

493
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: majority of pictures was three miles from us, and he

494
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: had them out of the October Um. So that was

495
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: pretty interesting to this dear. He wasn't in my life

496
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: real long. He Uh he showed up two weeks ago

497
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: today and uh it was the first time I've seen

498
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: them in two years. And it took about a day

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: looking at old trail cam photos to find them. But

500
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: we had him as a two and after year old deer.

501
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: He was real heavy horned, and this a lot of potential,

502
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: great potential, So he just cruising for those. He wasn't. Uh,

503
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: he came in later behind those. But all Rudd really

504
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: does to get kicked off in our area. We're right

505
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of the black Belt from kind of

506
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: south southeast of Sharp, Mississippi. But we're right here in

507
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: this black belt and they usually don't take off to

508
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: about mid December. Yeah, that's kind of what I was wondering. Yeah,

509
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean, usually you got some weird ruts there in

510
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: that state, but there's you know, there are a lot

511
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: of them are later. So what what what do you think?

512
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: Why was he traveling so much? I think just the

513
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: test off erone build up and them and uh, I

514
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: don't he might have got pressured from the neighbors. They

515
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: said they weren't really hunting their more rifle hunters, So

516
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they were in a tree stand

517
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: with the bow yet or not. But I don't know

518
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: if he got pushed to us or he just kind

519
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: of remembered from two years ago where we were. And

520
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: for the last two years we've been clearing on this farm.

521
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: Ground bars with dozers and trackos and whatnot, so making

522
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: all kinds of racket, but that didn't seem to bother

523
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: And uh he made home in one of these fingers

524
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: out in the mottle of field, uh, about twenty yards

525
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: wide at the thicket with the ditch running through it.

526
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: And that was his bedding area. And uh he showed

527
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: up one morning at seven o'clock and credit to my brother,

528
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: he was running the silk camera there and he told

529
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: me and he said, uh, check your phone, see if

530
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: you can handle my tech. And and we haven't had

531
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: a deer really worth chasing in the last few years.

532
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: And I was like, til us a hundred sixty inch

533
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: do you know? It's like, yeah, it's time to get Seriously,

534
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: that day, I went to woods and water or place

535
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: up the road has everything to do with hunting, and

536
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: I had I bought no arrows, uh sent locker suit.

537
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: You know, I went all out. I'm crossing all my

538
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: tees on this guy, and uh, we're getting regular daylight

539
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: pictures of them right before dark, right after daylight every

540
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: day for the rest of that week. I didn't have

541
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: a lock on or anything in there. So me and

542
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: my brother went there Saturday and we hung a lock

543
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: on and uh, I don't know if that pushed him

544
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: out or what, because I hunted him that evening and

545
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: all day the next Sunday, and uh I didn't have

546
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: a picture of him ever song and so the next

547
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: or the phone and Tuesday, which was last week, uh

548
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: I took all work. I went down there and I

549
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: got about a thousand yards away from that lock on,

550
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: on the opposite end of where he was coming from.

551
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 1: We had a good idea he was probably in that

552
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: finger would be in there. So I got on the

553
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: other end of that where it goes all the way

554
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: down and makes a creek. Well, uh I hug my

555
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: cell camera there, and by midnight that night he was

556
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: in front of it. Yes, he's back. He didn't go

557
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: too far. So I'm back at work and I'm looking

558
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: at my phone and I'm seeing all these pictures and

559
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: he was off and on from midnight. At four am, Well,

560
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: I told my boss we have some duty days coming

561
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: and he said, well, if you're going, he's a hunter,

562
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: he said, if you're gonna go, he said, you might

563
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: want to go to this evening Because I said, I'm out,

564
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: and I got my climber out of my attic and

565
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: I took off to our farm. And uh, I got

566
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: hopped in that creek bottom and I walked about a

567
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards down in there until I could

568
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: find a tree. There was only about one tree I

569
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: could find that was plammable, and it wasn't great tree.

570
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect. When I have a lot of cover,

571
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Um is this on the way to food? Or what is?

572
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: What is he? What is it? So we cleared we

573
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: cleared up up a lot of ash trees right here,

574
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of new vegetation coming up half

575
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: the ground, just like wild rye and stuff like that.

576
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: And it's and also it's just some tender grass, and

577
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it what they like. I had

578
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: a pinch point there because we had all the trees

579
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: pushed up in windrows and there were five yards long. Well,

580
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I put the camera at the end of one of

581
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: them wind rose and right on the edge of the creek.

582
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: So to make it around there, he had to come

583
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: through that little pinch button. And uh and that's that's

584
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: what happened. He happened to do that that night, and uh,

585
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: so I went in there and this tree, Like I said,

586
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: it was not ideal. I got thirteen foot off the

587
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: ground how as I could get and uh, and immediately

588
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: I had to do on Garlan come through. And I'm

589
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: not feeling a real confident about this spot. But it's

590
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: the last place he was. So I see right an

591
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: hour before the ark, see three bucks coming in, want

592
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: the bigger ones at eight points and like two smaller

593
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: cold bucks. They come in, come right in front of me,

594
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: and behind them about fifteen minutes behind them, you know,

595
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: probably fifty seventy yards behind them. I catch a glimpse

596
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: of a big body just splitting a gas in the woods,

597
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's the that's mature, dear. I

598
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: didn't see back. I was just like the way he's acting,

599
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: walking slow, cautious. I'm thinking it's a another eight point

600
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: or whatever that I get pictures of that I've seen

601
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: the previous hunt. I said, he always comes in slow,

602
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: it's probably him, but it wasn't. It was it was

603
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: a big guy. He um. He came all the way

604
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: down Whin. I had a good uh north northwest wind

605
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: that day, and he got as far south of me

606
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: as he could down Win and uh, he came up

607
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: and I was listening to this here for thirty minutes,

608
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: walking so slow. I'm cautious. He came out, Uh finally

609
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: it was just like he walked into a through a doorway,

610
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: just boom right there, shifting looking there and uh, anyway,

611
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: I already had my bow in an hour four dark.

612
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm hunting this year. I grabbed my bow about four

613
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: o'clock and hold on. So I already had my feet

614
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: fitting everything, and I really have to do much movement

615
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: besides to draw back and uh yeah, calling man. Anyway,

616
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: he uh, he walked in kind of made an S

617
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: shape to me, and he was pushing some of them

618
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: mother bucks kind of out of the way and whatnot.

619
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: And he got to I had to shoot windows when

620
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: he got his head, and the first one he was

621
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: about to take he did take two more steps and

622
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna draw, but one of them other bucks

623
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: coughed and uh pretty loud, and it strottled me, startled

624
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: the deer, and he bolted about fifty yards away from him,

625
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, you kidding, man, it it's five

626
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: ten here at five ten, it's getting pretty dark. I mean,

627
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh gosh, this this is not

628
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen. And sure enough he eases back to me,

629
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: and before he gets in that window, he stops. And

630
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: I was nervous about it being too dark to see

631
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: my feet socks, and I really could and his legs stopped.

632
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: His front legs stopped in a gap about a foot

633
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: light of these two small trees growing next to each other,

634
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: and about mid distance, ten yards away from me, ten

635
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: yards from him. He was in a chip shot twenty

636
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: yards want perfectly brought to up. Well, I just drew back,

637
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: I put my bead on the back of the front

638
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: leg and just followed it up to hit that dark spot.

639
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: I felt like I was on the money right there.

640
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: And he's between them two trees. That was just that's awesome.

641
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And when he sat all running, he went

642
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: up these two wind rows and uh, which is out

643
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: into the open field, and I was like, personally, he's

644
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: not even gonna make it to the woods. And sure

645
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: enough he went a hundred and twenty yards. Well, congrats, dude,

646
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I mean, so you know, so you said

647
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: the mid decembers of the rut Um, I guess you know,

648
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: coming up here, we're looking at you'll start seeing that.

649
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't call it rut until about December.

650
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: You'll just say, you know, some bucks start like yesterday

651
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: I saw a little buck kind of pushing a dove

652
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: around it. Yeah. I don't think any of these those

653
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: are coming and hate quite yet you might have something

654
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: really so there's there's definitely good times ahead though, you know,

655
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I think I think you know, going going forward this week,

656
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: what if you had to focus on, um something to hunt?

657
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: Are you hunting um like close to a buck's bed

658
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: like like you did? Are you still staying with that

659
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: pattern or what are you gonna be if you have

660
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: a good ideas there? Yes, hunt your win always personally,

661
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: I think about your win because a buck like that

662
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: they smell or see you. It's I mean, your chances

663
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: go down about future sound I feel like okay? So

664
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: last question here, on a scale of one to ten,

665
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: if you had to rank buck movement and this next week,

666
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: where do you think we're gonna be at? Uh? This

667
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: next week I'd say probably a seven day eight just

668
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: because it's warming up. We've had some real good cold

669
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: days and not too cold because here in Alabama, if

670
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: it gets too gold cook too cold, dear, will bed down? Sure,

671
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: same here, yeah won't. You won't say much of them,

672
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: but it's been that perfect, you know. High fifty five

673
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: degree tich, six degree days, sunshine, a light frost every morning,

674
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: and that's my ideal. Awesome cool. Well, thank you for

675
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: hopping on, Daniel, and I appreciate the report. Man. We'll

676
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: be talking to you soon. Absolutely. My good friend Patrick

677
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: pay Singer has been hunting all over the country, but

678
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: recently he had some real nice success in his home

679
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: state of Tennessee. Patrick, what's happening, brother, Not much, not much,

680
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: just uh still riding this high that I'm on, uh

681
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: kind of not uh still in its belief. Yeah, you know,

682
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: uh Patrick, if I had to describe you, I describe

683
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: you as a jolly fella just in general. Man, you're

684
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: always happy. And then uh, because that's like how we

685
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: met you the first time. You're just smiling the whole time.

686
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: It's like, that's a nice guy. And then right now,

687
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I'll bet you about as jolly as it gets for Patrick. Man, Well,

688
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: thank you, brother. Yeah, my my cheeks has been hurting.

689
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I've been smiling, I'd imagine, man. So you uh, you

690
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: were blessed with a really really great buck. They're uh,

691
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of close to home, right, Yes, yes, this was

692
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: actually right on my home farm. Doesn't get any better

693
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: than that. I've over the last twelve years I've I've

694
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: managed this property and it's went from nothing over a

695
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: hundred inches to where every year I'm getting good quality

696
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: bucks and only taking this. This is the only second

697
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: buck I've taken in twelve years. Would you call us

698
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: East Tennessee. Yes, yes, I'm in uh in the point

699
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: right right up against the Appalachian Mountains, not too far

700
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: from Gallinberg Pitching Forwards, sixty miles from Asheville, North Carolina.

701
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: So is it kind of hilly? Yes, I'm at the

702
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: foot foot hills of Appalachian Mountains, about three or four

703
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: miles pro fly. Um, this is more of the valley

704
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: it is. Um, it's not flat, it's rolling, so we

705
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: do have some hills, but I'm not actually in the mountains. Yeah,

706
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: and this is this is kind of similar to our

707
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: home where most of the I guess you'd call it

708
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: agg is actually just hay pasture, right, yes, yes, Um,

709
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: for years it was hay pasture, cattle pasture. We're getting

710
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more crops going on, but um, mostly

711
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: not your good deer habitat. So what have you been

712
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: focusing on? Uh? As far as hunting deer? If there's

713
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: no you know, is there is there a bed to

714
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: food source that you're working with or what are you

715
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: looking at when you go out and you're trying to

716
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: kill a deer this time of year? Well if if

717
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: if it's public or somewhere that you can't manage, what

718
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: you're wanting to look for is acorns because we've got

719
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of timber is trying to find those acorns

720
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: are feeding on. You can find an agg field that's

721
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: being cut, focus on that. Um, those are the couple

722
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: of things you want to focus on. That's where you're

723
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: going to find the dose is either cut agg or

724
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: on the acorns. Yeah. And then I'm assuming you guys

725
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: do quite a bit of planting food plots and stuff

726
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: like that throughout the year on different places and it's

727
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: no different there at home, right, Yes? Yes, um, we

728
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: we typically I plant mossy oak biologic and I like

729
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: the clover, oats and radishes. Never had really good luck

730
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: with turnips, but especially clover and oats. It just seems

731
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: like it doesn't get cold enough here. If they hit turnips,

732
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: it's usually into February March and a lot of them

733
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: will wrought. So I usually don't plant that. And you

734
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: recently killed what maybe the county record there, and I

735
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: would assume he's pretty close to that food plot there.

736
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Huh yes, sir, Um, yeah, I was blessed to kill. Um.

737
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna gross right at right under one one seventy

738
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: eight and two eights And our record previously from night

739
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight was hundred forty eight inch,

740
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: so such a huge jump. Um. Yeah, I've improved the

741
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: quality but everything here at my house over the years.

742
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: It's took twelve years, but uh timber, I fended some

743
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: of the hardwoods down um let one field that's a

744
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: couple of acres just grow up basically CRP for betting

745
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: and cover. And then next to that I'll plant the

746
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: biologic probably just a half acre. They don't spend a

747
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: lot of time in there, but it gives them something green,

748
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: something to eat. And then next to it, the farmer

749
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: will leave about an acre of standing beans for me.

750
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: That's where the deer this time of year ends up,

751
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: is in the standing beings. So this time of year,

752
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of shifting going on, you know, depending

753
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: on where you at. You're kind of on the cusp

754
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: of the south, in the in the Midwest there, Uh,

755
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, the ruts kind of changing. It might be

756
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: getting kind of post rut. And then also you have

757
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: some different seasons coming in and uh, I know you

758
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: you you embrace the gun season that comes around and

759
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: make the most of it. Right, Do you change your

760
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: tactics some when every gun season comes around. Yes, I don't.

761
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't want in there super tight. Um. I want

762
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: to give myself a little bit of a buffer, you know.

763
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: I like that E D E two a hundred yards back, uh,

764
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: to give him room. And and where this deer was,

765
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: he was in the CRP, right on the edge of

766
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: the hardwoods. There was no way of getting in there.

767
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: So the closest I could get was on the creek

768
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: with the biologic in front of me and then the

769
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: CRP on the other side, setting back overlooking that CRP.

770
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: And that was a transition he was walking through. The

771
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: c RP would come through the biologic going to the

772
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: beans behind me. So if I would have been setting

773
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: into beans, I probably wouldn't have shot him because he

774
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: didn't get to me until about ten minutes of light

775
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: lesson many kind of late movement there. So as we

776
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: look forward to kind of like this Thanksgiving holiday weekend

777
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: time time period, what do you predict the buck movement

778
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: to be like in Tennessee. I think it's gonna be

779
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: really good. Um, it's gonna get a little bit warmer.

780
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: I wish it was colder. Um. I see that it

781
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: looks like maybe up in the fifties for a couple

782
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: of highs um. But traditionally, the thing with Tennessee is is,

783
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, we've got the three Stars. We've got Eastern, Middle,

784
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: and Western. So we're such diverse because we're such a

785
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: hm uh east to west state. Typically it seems like

786
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: here in East Tennessee, the some of the best rut

787
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: is from Thanksgiving through the first week of December, And

788
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people get caught up here because they

789
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: see uhty buck running doze the first week in November

790
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, they're rutting. Well, I typically don't

791
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: see the big boys in from now when I killed

792
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: until that first end of the first week of December.

793
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: So so I think a lot of people have got

794
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: a good opportunity at those big mature bucks, good times

795
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: ahead of his man turkey, potato salad and all that

796
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and then just gets So if you

797
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: had to rank one to ten, what would you call

798
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: it for the next week, I'd say a good solid eight,

799
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: solid eight. Maybe let's go I like it. Yeah, sure,

800
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: that's uh yeah, yeah, well cool man. Congrats on the

801
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: giant buck, dude, and appreciate the time and the report

802
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: and the friendship. Man. Uh just can't thank you enough.

803
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: And and it's just cool to see you know, uh,

804
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: nice people having having fun and shooting deer and just

805
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: getting out in God's creation. Man. So congratulations, thank you brother.

806
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: Nothing like seeing the Creator through his creation. It's exactly right, brother,

807
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: and and very blessed to call you guys my friend.

808
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: Thanks Patrick. Yes, sir, we have got Jimmy Shyy on

809
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: the phone now. He is a hunter in Pennsylvania. Jimmy,

810
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: what's been happening, dude? It's been off and on lately.

811
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: It's what I would say, Yeah thoughts, Uh, you're moving

812
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: around and then all of a sudden the quit or

813
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: what there's a spotty where I'm where I've been hunting

814
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: you you're on them one day and then they're going

815
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: the next. Of what I've been seeing, I think it's

816
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: because you just take time off and go take pictures

817
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: of those gihnt elkoho all the time. I think that's

818
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: what what's happening to you? You know that could that

819
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: could also be a fard of it too, plain that

820
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: in work. Yeah, it always gets in the White Man

821
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: dead gum it. Oh yeah, I know. So. Uh it's uh,

822
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: you know mid tolight November rotten. Now, Um, what has

823
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: been happening in the deer woods up there? The deer

824
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: still kind of rutting or they chasing those around or

825
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: is it a little different than that. I've been seeing

826
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: a lot of routten activity here, especially I work night

827
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: shifts and we have a lot of agg fields where

828
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I work, so there's a lot of deer. So I've

829
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: been seeing a lot of bucks chasing still, and even

830
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: while hunting, I've seen a few like you know, looking

831
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: for dose myself and passed up a couple of bucks

832
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: here in the last week. Our archery season just ended

833
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: the past Friday, so I hunted that last week pretty

834
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: hard and passed up a couple of bucks. And I

835
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: might kick myself in a butt for later. Yeah, dude,

836
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: it's always a tough choice for sure. What's the weather

837
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: been like lately? Um, it's been very very cold the

838
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: last couple of days. I've got a real big snow

839
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: storm to begin the week. There is that very cold

840
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania style or Texas style, I'd say Pennsylvanias. I mean, yes,

841
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: your day it was like real feel of like five

842
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: degrees that terrible. It's pretty cold. We don't really see

843
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: that every year here. So when that happens, does that

844
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: change deer movement much? From what I see? For me? Yeah,

845
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I definitely noticed a lot of deer like they don't

846
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: seem to move as far. I mean, I still saw

847
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: a couple of bucks that were like kind of like

848
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: small young box looking for does, But I think a

849
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: lot of the mature box kind of definitely hang out

850
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: with the does and bed dose don't move a lot

851
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: from their bedding areas. So if you're going to hunt

852
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: that approaches, does it feel like mornings or evenings are

853
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: better when those deer aren't moving very far? I'm I'm

854
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: seeing more movement in the mornings is what I've noticed. Definitely,

855
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: Like first light for the first couple of hours, you know,

856
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: to like nine in the morning or so, and then

857
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: it kind of dies off. What kind of movement is

858
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: it like cruising bucks movement or just overall deer movement

859
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: like to and from food sources or what do you

860
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I just think it's I just think it's more overall

861
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: just deer movement from food sources, getting off, moving around,

862
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: getting warm a little bit and getting a little bit deat,

863
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: and then you know the buck hanging out, and I'm

864
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: sure a few bucks are still chasing around even at

865
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: that time. You said, well, we go that there's a

866
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: lot of egg fields around. What's the primary egg food

867
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: source in your area? In my area probably would be

868
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: oaks a lot. We have a lot of like red oak,

869
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: and our my area where I hunt primarily spotty white oak.

870
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: This year wasn't a super good years. A lot of

871
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of areas were kind of dead

872
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: because we had a big gypsy moth infestation that's really

873
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: killed a lot of the trees. So we saw some

874
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: of those a few years ago, like I coat the

875
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: bark in their caterpillars and stuff. Right, it's kind of gross. Yeah, yeah,

876
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: it's really gross and really bad for acorns. So now

877
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: the reds do well, those well, those acorns last like

878
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: for several more weeks or you know, a couple of months,

879
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: or they pretty much die out as a food source.

880
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: They I'm sure spots still last, but I mean, from

881
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: what I see, by the time our gun seasons get in,

882
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: the pressure really turns up. Because we have really bad

883
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: hard pressure here in p A. I mean, the deer

884
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: really quick. End of looking at it, A lot of

885
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of go to thick areas to

886
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: start just browsing. Yeah, so they're just uh, they'll just

887
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: be eating like woody browse out in the woods. Yeah,

888
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: just yeah, a little you know, a little bushes and

889
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot of I know, like Japanese I forgot exactly

890
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: called some kind of Japanese like a little berry bush.

891
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: It's invasive here in pre day a lot of places.

892
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't remember what it's called.

893
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: But it's a little dinky bush has a little red berries.

894
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: They really love that. Really a lot of spikes on it. Yeah,

895
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: not good for us, good for them. So as as

896
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: the pressure ramps up there with a gun season, are

897
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: you shifting your focus kind of more of those deep holes.

898
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Maybe that's exactly my game plan. My game plan is

899
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: to get where other guys either can't or won't go. Yeah,

900
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean getting that fixed stuff. And you know you

901
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: might not be able to see, you know, with a

902
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: with the rifle. You know, you can't see that two

903
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: yards or whatever, and you don't see fifty. But that's

904
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: where that you're going to be, and that's what they

905
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: gotta that's what they're gonna be, is where you should be. Yeah, yeah,

906
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: for sure. Man. Cool. So as we kind of look

907
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: towards this, uh you know, looking forward to it, maybe

908
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: the start of what people would call late season, right,

909
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: so kind of end of lockdown, post rut top stuff. Um,

910
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: what do you expect the Bucks to be doing? Mostly? Um,

911
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: I think here in p A, I think you're gonna

912
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: see a little surge once the first week a Rightful

913
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: ends here, next week right Fight opens this coming Saturday,

914
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: and after the first initial burst of people, you know

915
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: in the woods, I think you'll see a little burst

916
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: of rut coming right back. And I think you'll see

917
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: some box cruising around looking for the last few days,

918
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, and looking for the end of the end

919
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: of the rut type phase is I think you'll see

920
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: a little more movement. Is the Japanese barberry? Is that

921
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: what it is? That would be it? So that's what

922
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: people need the key in on going going Flarida. It's

923
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: an invasive landscaping now can now considered are actually banned

924
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. But yeah, we had a lot of cool minds.

925
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: That's what they use. They use the cheap stuff like that,

926
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the black locusts and the barberry, and they plant that

927
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: edge just spreads like crazy. All right, well it's illegal,

928
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: but don't tell the plans of the deer. Okay. If

929
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: if you had to rank what you predict the deer

930
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: movement to be, like specifically the buck movement over the

931
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: next week, on a scale of one to team, what

932
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: would you think it would be? I'd say natural movement

933
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: a five and pressure movement probably in eight. Really you

934
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: like the pressure. So, I mean we have a lot

935
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: of pressure in public lands here, a lot of people

936
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: and I mean you know, there's not a lot of

937
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: places that aren't other than the real fixed stuff. A

938
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: lot of places aren't gonna be peopleless. I should say, wow,

939
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: that's cool, man. I haven't ever thought about the pressure

940
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: like making hunting that much better. So that's exciting. Man,

941
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: It's a good time to be a hunting sounds like that,

942
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm hoping to be anyway. Well, dude, I

943
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: hope you find a real big one this upcoming weekend. Man,

944
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: thanks for the report. Ye, thank you. Sounds like an

945
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: exciting time to be in the deer woods. I know

946
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: a lot of you're in despair because the ruts over.

947
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: But guess what it's not, alright, dear, season is isn't over.

948
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: The deer have to exist somewhere in that place is

949
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: out in the wild country, so you need to get

950
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: there as quick as you can. A couple of things

951
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: to maybe help you, inspire you, or get you excited

952
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: or just past the time. The Element has a new

953
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: ground hunting video from Kansas where I can put a

954
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: stock on a giant buck that I have a lot

955
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: of history with, and man, big bucks just do big

956
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: buck things. That's all I'm gonna say. Also, Tony Peterson

957
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: has a new video out on camping on a hunt

958
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: and some of the things you may or may not

959
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: want to consider doing while you're on that hunt. It's

960
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: on the Wired Hunt channel. And the last thing you

961
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: need to do this week, guys, is to be thankful

962
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: for the blessings that you have. All Right, it's Thanksgiving,

963
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: good time to think about that kind of stuff. Be

964
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: appreciative for the creation that we have around us, and

965
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: thankful for the deer we get to hunt, and the

966
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: families we have, and the people that are around us

967
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: that support us and help us do what we love

968
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: to do. And we want to thank you guys as

969
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: well for helping us do what we love to do,

970
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: supporting us with this podcast. And remember this is Rot Fresh.

971
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Keep you fresh.