WEBVTT - Part One: The Popular Olympics: Antifascist Athletes Help Stop a Coup

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to String of Turtles, the only podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and that's my intro. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so good. Why did you Why why did you

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<v Speaker 1>lead with that? Macie? Well, I've been thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>I should just This is how I'm going to start

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<v Speaker 1>pitching podcasts. Is just introduced podcast as if it's those

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts I mean, I mean strong first pitch as that

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite plant playing to my audience. I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>you I'll send you a picture of what that is

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<v Speaker 1>James later. Yeah, please, I'm always excited to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>today as my guest is James, who is actually not

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<v Speaker 1>the guest but the host. The guest host, James. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I just went full late night on us. James. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm walking out. I'm going to sit

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<v Speaker 1>on the sofa yeah, I mean that you should feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're comfortable and sitting on a sofa during this podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to install like a podcasting sofa and that

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<v Speaker 1>full support, and it would explain why you're wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>three piece suit. I was surprised, I was. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an American citizen now, so I don't have to It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's not like a condition of retaining my passport. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just swearing it is how I feel safe and comfortable. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've implied, James is going to be telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about stuff, and I actually don't know what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about for the full proper reverse experience. James. Yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to surprise you. People who have listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the other things that we've done together will be both

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<v Speaker 1>both shocked and amazed to hear that that this one

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<v Speaker 1>is based in Spain. Yeah, that's what I do. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to keep doing it until someone stops me.

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<v Speaker 1>What I want to ask you, Margaret, is what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? What do you make of the Olympics. As

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, I thought they were cool, and then once

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<v Speaker 1>I started understanding politics, I learned that they are not

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<v Speaker 1>cool because there are this massive gentrification force that um

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<v Speaker 1>destroys entire neighborhoods and or cities every couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I know about the Olympics. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>am like even as a like grouchy, I hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with the girls in the corner of the gym class

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<v Speaker 1>and get failing grades and paint my nails black um

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<v Speaker 1>instead of particip opinion. Even back in my most anti

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<v Speaker 1>sports I still kind of thought it was cool when

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<v Speaker 1>people like spin around six times in the air on

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<v Speaker 1>ice skates and ship. Yeah that is cool. That the

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<v Speaker 1>ship that people do is cool. Like you said, the

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<v Speaker 1>structure that that brings them best to do it is

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<v Speaker 1>deeply uncool. And I think, yeah, your ark is very

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<v Speaker 1>much like mine, except that my PhD was procerally funded

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<v Speaker 1>by the IOC, so it was a little more acrimonious.

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<v Speaker 1>My break up with your Olympic gates that the International

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Committee, the est it is the very same, based

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<v Speaker 1>in a nice little town by Lake Juneva in Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 1>where all the good stuff happened. Yeah, no bad stuff happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and famously that this is because they entirely took the

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<v Speaker 1>right side in the Second World war and just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of what we're going to talk about today, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is they were talking about the Olympics and

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<v Speaker 1>why they're great, yeah, and where they're magnifficent and where

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<v Speaker 1>there are no problems with them. These are actually a

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<v Speaker 1>different Olympics from the Olympics you're probably thinking of. People

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<v Speaker 1>are probably familiar with different Olympics. We have been different

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics through time. So we're going to talk today. I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start actually explaining a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the modern Olympics or the ioc Olympics, or the Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>you probably saw when you're a kid on television, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are like I think I want to defer to

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<v Speaker 1>my friend David Goldblack, who has written a really good

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<v Speaker 1>book on the history of the Olympic Games. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>The Games. People should buy it. He calls them the

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<v Speaker 1>gathering of the transnational bourgeoisie, which I think is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>right on. They so the Olympics have this claim right

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<v Speaker 1>that they're like handed down from a classical tradition. M

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<v Speaker 1>that did the idea that it comes directly from ancient Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>To where where are they doing it next? Paris or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever l A hopefully not so. This is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>baked into one Olympic law. But it's not really true, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of them, the stuff they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in ancient Greece isn't really true. A lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>actually draws from much more recent events, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is a Cotsworld Olympics, which takes place in a place

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<v Speaker 1>where I grew up. Okay what no, I I had

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<v Speaker 1>don't even understand cards swallow Okay, yes, yeah British. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this a sex thing? Yeah, the older the old cock

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<v Speaker 1>Sword Olympic. No, it's the con sort of place where

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<v Speaker 1>I lived. Nice place that's a sheet. This is like

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<v Speaker 1>cock Fosters. When I was a subway in London, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a hard time. Everyone knew I was the American

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<v Speaker 1>because I would giggle every time the nice British lady

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<v Speaker 1>the robot would say, next up is cock Fosters anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like Lord Hereford's Knob. Where about like a

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<v Speaker 1>real place you know, who's the tourist, just like well

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<v Speaker 1>worn path to take a picture with the sign Lord

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<v Speaker 1>Hereford's Knob, and like two very tired people who just

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with that ship every time they get

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<v Speaker 1>have to give their address to someone on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I found out was my publisher tour

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<v Speaker 1>t o R. I didn't know that that was a word.

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<v Speaker 1>Went I went to Yeah, yeah, darn more like you

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<v Speaker 1>do the ten tours and you go and go around him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to one of them. I think Mr Avalon

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe based on one we were in I don't know, Devon,

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<v Speaker 1>England somewhere now. It's like the witchy town in West Center, England,

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<v Speaker 1>the witchy town in west at Stratford, No, West Center England.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, y'all Salem oh um, it's like where all

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<v Speaker 1>the touristy witchy ship is. You know, Well that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what yeah anyway, Yeah, so yeah. Codswort Olympics, which predate

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<v Speaker 1>the modern Olympics, take place where I grew up, and people,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've heard of them, you'll heard of him because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the events you shin kicking, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>means something completely different. No, No, you put your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on the other person's shoulders and kick the ship out

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<v Speaker 1>of each other's shins and give up. Yeah, yields it

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<v Speaker 1>falls over here. That's the most classic drunk game in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Much of English culture can be understood, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most classic drunk game in the world. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if people if you want to know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm from and how I used to speak before

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<v Speaker 1>I went to university. If you watch that that that

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<v Speaker 1>documentary about cheese rolling on Netflix, you're familiar with cheese rolling. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there's a documentary on Netflix. So they

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<v Speaker 1>roll the cheese down the hill? Do they make the

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<v Speaker 1>cheese wheels by rolling them? Then you chase? It's quite

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<v Speaker 1>literally literal Cooper's Hill. You just it's I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fucking about. It's a proper hill. Okay, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lose your footing at some point, but the key it's

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<v Speaker 1>just to kind of let it roll and go kind

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<v Speaker 1>of come down the hill just flailing and aim for

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<v Speaker 1>the cheese when you get there. Fantastic. I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people get very grievously injured, like people have

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<v Speaker 1>life altering injuries. All right. I've been listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Pratchett books again, and I swear to God all

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<v Speaker 1>of the weird fantasy made up just England. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one time I interviewed Alan Moore about this thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was asking him how he felt about v for Vendetta,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, look, it's an American parable, the

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<v Speaker 1>movie version, so they should have said it in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and so setting in England because you Americans think we

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<v Speaker 1>probably still have giants or whatever here. And I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell him he was wrong. And the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>have a cheese rolling hill in cock swallow codswallow, cops

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<v Speaker 1>fold Cotswold. Yeah, okay, so that's that's on me. That

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<v Speaker 1>one's on me. I'm sorry, Okay. Yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very twee version of English. And it's like the cops

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<v Speaker 1>was are full of people who like have a ship

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<v Speaker 1>tone of money and I want to pretend that it's

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteenth century, okay, and and people who have lived

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<v Speaker 1>there and are in agriculture or whatever. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>presents a very tweet version of Englishness, which it packages

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<v Speaker 1>for foreigners, you know, like there were bust tours of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans all the time coming through villages near where I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up. And it's not it's not all of what

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<v Speaker 1>Englishness is anyway. The Olympics have always claimed that they

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<v Speaker 1>unite the youth of the world right and promote peace

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<v Speaker 1>through mutual understanding, acceptance of the rules and fair play.

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<v Speaker 1>But in reality they really celebrate the shared interests of

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<v Speaker 1>global elite with enough time and money to travel around

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<v Speaker 1>the world before commercial airlines existed, and then they take

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<v Speaker 1>part in events like modern pentathlon, which, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of marger, includes fencing, horse riding, and shooting

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to running and swimming. I see that rules

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<v Speaker 1>I have known. I know those are all bougie things,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also are rule. So yeah, I did a

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<v Speaker 1>trial for Olympic Modern pentathlon when I was younger, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. There's lots of things you can't do in fencing,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it kind of cucked in my opinion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah it was fun. Not not for me, not

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<v Speaker 1>the way when it's fen my life. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a while there where if you were good at exercising,

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<v Speaker 1>they were just trying to find people who could who could,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Britain had this weird thing for a while where

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<v Speaker 1>they talk to the Olympic medals by just being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're good exercising, can you go on a horse right bucket?

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<v Speaker 1>Like now? Yeah, okay, so by the it makes shin kicking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I never really got a shin kicking you

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<v Speaker 1>want to try shooting off a horse, But yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds better. If they bought the shin kicking back, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'd be more in favor of the IOC, just

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<v Speaker 1>like recruit people who have abnormally bony shins. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>by the early nineteen thirties, Olympics have become an international institution,

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<v Speaker 1>but they continue to enforce a rule about amateurism. So

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<v Speaker 1>the amateurism rule holds the Olympians can't be professional athletes

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<v Speaker 1>and they must not receive a financial reward for practicing

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<v Speaker 1>their sport. So this rule has its has its roots

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<v Speaker 1>really in the invention of sport. So, like we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about cheese rolling, Right, what's sport does is it

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<v Speaker 1>takes play and then it contains it like both physically

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<v Speaker 1>and within a set of rules. Right, if people want

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<v Speaker 1>to read about this, that the kind of the classic

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Homo Ludin's And this happens in nineteenth century England, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and very quickly after sports like football and redby first

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<v Speaker 1>football and rugby have to deviate from each other. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they started the same sport. Okay, there's a there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a myth about the guy who invented rugby. It's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>It became possible for teams around the country to compete

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<v Speaker 1>against each other before this, Like one town or school

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<v Speaker 1>might have its own set of rules and they play

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<v Speaker 1>against the town next door or something. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>this in like folk football matches, where yeah, they're cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a football in between two towns and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to kick it into other town basically, and like that,

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<v Speaker 1>there are very basic rules. Go ahead. The sport that

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<v Speaker 1>I play, it's called bella garth, and then bella garth

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<v Speaker 1>you get foam swords and you get each other with

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<v Speaker 1>the swords, but not in the head. And there's all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of really elaborate rules, and the the sports split

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember which direction I when someone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really upset about this. Dagger here is a very

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<v Speaker 1>similar sport. Dagger here is where you get foam swords

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<v Speaker 1>and then you hit each other with the swords, but

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<v Speaker 1>not in the head. It's the same sport, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>different rules, and it's called cross gaming. When a dagger

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<v Speaker 1>here field goes to a dagger to bella garth field,

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. So I'm very familiar with the difficulties

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<v Speaker 1>presented in learning. You know exactly how why the foam

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<v Speaker 1>tip of the sword has to be um, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not there's resurrection spells like I'm I feel the rugby

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<v Speaker 1>football problem that writing into. Previous to that, see like

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<v Speaker 1>folk football had a very simile set of rules like

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<v Speaker 1>this's that's one. I forget where it is somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the West Country. Whether the only rules you were allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to stab your opponent again, And that's a problem them

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<v Speaker 1>and dagger here. I don't think these people were dealing

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<v Speaker 1>in foam daggers that would see you. Okay, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>but once their rules, who agreed to right, you can

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<v Speaker 1>play anyone, You can play anyone from anywhere, so very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>this allows people of different classes to play each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and so very quickly people who are in a upper

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<v Speaker 1>class pedition start to fence off from playing sports against

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<v Speaker 1>people who are not right. So this distinction emerges between

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<v Speaker 1>what are called gentlemen and what are called players gender police.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, right it's men. The Olympics with

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<v Speaker 1>a gentleman and amateurs. People wealthy enough to take time

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<v Speaker 1>off work for travel and training work because you could

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<v Speaker 1>afford the time and travel weren't welcome at the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see these rules being used to police

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<v Speaker 1>not just class, but also race. You're probably familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>Jim's Thorpe. That's the name I've heard before, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>remember once to tell me. He's an Indigenous man and

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<v Speaker 1>role member of the Second Fox Nation and he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest athlete America has produced. Okay, so his first time,

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<v Speaker 1>he went to one of these residential schools, right he

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<v Speaker 1>went to Carlisle Indian School. He was allegedly walking past

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<v Speaker 1>where some kids were training high jump one day. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to try it, and still in his school clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>he beat all of them. Twelve. He dominated the pentathlon

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<v Speaker 1>and decathlon at the Olympics. He however, had his medal

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<v Speaker 1>removed because he played semi pro baseball in college. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing this is his sixteen sport, rightly five But

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<v Speaker 1>before that he got some money for playing semi for

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball So no one wanted to compete against this guy. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he is he is like a gigger chad, to put

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<v Speaker 1>in modern parlance, like he's it's really sad. Actually, Jim

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<v Speaker 1>thought wrote a book about the Olympics. This guy loved

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<v Speaker 1>what the Olympics were supposed to be and like wanted

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<v Speaker 1>this chance to show himself to the world and improve

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<v Speaker 1>him every bit. They're equal and their superior in fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>different sports, right, And he did that and then they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, now, fuck you dude, you can't you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have your medal. So he went on to play pro

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and then also pro football because he hadn't played

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<v Speaker 1>enough sports. So like, yeah, there's there's not that he

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<v Speaker 1>was like before Bo Jackson and without a shoe contract sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>but his medals were reinstated, like not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The IOC gave his family his meles back, but he

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<v Speaker 1>died not having had his medals taken away, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can see this in other instances with other especially

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<v Speaker 1>with indigenous athletes. Actually the them always falling foul of

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<v Speaker 1>little professionals professionalism rules because it wasn't there was one

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<v Speaker 1>acceptance and professionalism rule, and it was for fencing coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>Fencing coaches could compete, okay, because it's a class thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the fencing is that that's what it was about.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about people that they didn't want to play

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<v Speaker 1>with and people who they wanted to play with, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>that sucks. Yeah, it was shipped actually, which is why,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're going to find out, there were some other

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics which were considerably better. The Olympics didn't want athletes

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<v Speaker 1>like Jim Thorpe because it dispproved a lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics were supposed to be about, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leugenic. But Workers Sport did a welcome athletes from

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<v Speaker 1>slams and sworkshops around the world, and retally they would

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<v Speaker 1>run faster, jump, higher, lift heavier than their boys counterparts.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everything else on the left, it broke up very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly into multiple factions. And yeah, it's shocking, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>When is when? And where is this? This is the

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of decades of the twentieth century. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see them mostly like like post Russian Revolution and

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<v Speaker 1>you have like a you have a sports International, you

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<v Speaker 1>have like it's Workers Sport was huge. It's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to convey to people like how big this was.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get like, so for instance, um, if we look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Workers Olympics, you had a hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>competing in a quarter of a million watching. Jesus, these

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<v Speaker 1>are vast events at one of the Spartaki Ads. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a Sparkay. So you have the workers

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics with the Socialist of Spartaki adds, a communist right

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<v Speaker 1>like Spartacus. Yeah, the Spartaki adds. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>at the Spartaki yad. They they had this for the

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<v Speaker 1>closing ceremony. They constructed a giant tower like look at

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<v Speaker 1>several stories high, like paper and cardboard. Tower collapsed it

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<v Speaker 1>because they had written global Finance Capital on it. So

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<v Speaker 1>the closing ceremony was collapsing it and setting it on fire. Rules. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty cool stuff. Actually, it's it's said, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have this anymore. And so one of the primary

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<v Speaker 1>defenders of this amateurism, right, it's class police and a

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<v Speaker 1>sports this dude called Avery Brandage. Every brandage first headed

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<v Speaker 1>up the United States Olympic Committee and then the International

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Committee. And it's around this particularly odious bureaucrat that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sort of start our story today because

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<v Speaker 1>you see in nineteen thirty one, the same year, acquarter

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<v Speaker 1>of a million socialists in Germany watched that fake tower

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<v Speaker 1>get pulled to the ground and burned in the closing

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony of the Workers Olympics. The International Olympic Committee met

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<v Speaker 1>in Barcelona to see who was going to hold the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six Olympic Games. Okay, ten days before they met,

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<v Speaker 1>Spain had declared a republic. When they decided to meet there,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a monarchy, soas military regime had collapsed, they

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<v Speaker 1>step down and a left liberal republic had been constituted.

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<v Speaker 1>Crowds of working class people had welcomed in the streets,

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<v Speaker 1>and Francesque Massier had taken the opportunity presented to declare Catalonia,

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<v Speaker 1>the nation of which Bathlona is the capital. Independent. In

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks that follow Catalonia haven't quite left Spain, but

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<v Speaker 1>gained significant autonomy and its assembly. The estapp Catalet joined

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Arty of Luish Compounds and the Lopping Your

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<v Speaker 1>Group to form a new party called the Republican Left

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<v Speaker 1>of Catalonia catal initials e r C. It basically became

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<v Speaker 1>a popular front combining a really broad range of liberals

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<v Speaker 1>and leftists within Catalonia. Within Catalonia, Yeah, but the popular

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<v Speaker 1>front policy doesn't come about a little later with the

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<v Speaker 1>comm in turn, but this was for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the popular front. So obviously the International Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>Committee looks at this and it's a giant disaster for them. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>for the working people of Catalonia is a huge win.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, because they're like, no, but we want to

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<v Speaker 1>like run around and ride horses with rich people, and

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<v Speaker 1>these people want to run around and ride horses on

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<v Speaker 1>rich people, and so it's like they're not really Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually like your your dagger here. Yeah, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>much like that. Yeah, it's a small difference, just just

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<v Speaker 1>one't work. Yeah, prepositions whatever, Yeah, yeah, don't start. So

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<v Speaker 1>there were five counts to one marquee at this meeting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a marquee. I don't quite know where they say it

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<v Speaker 1>on the hierarchy, but it's as yeah, I always forget.

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<v Speaker 1>It's someone whose job is being born. That's the most

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<v Speaker 1>distinguishing element of their life. Those people shouldn't been making

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for us anyway. They were supposed to vote on

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<v Speaker 1>whether games will be held, right, and they probably did vote,

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<v Speaker 1>but the International Olympic Committee took the very strange step

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<v Speaker 1>of deciding there wasn't a quorum, which they hadn't done before,

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<v Speaker 1>even when there were fewer attendees. Okay, this this specific ship,

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<v Speaker 1>like this vote is months of my life in an

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<v Speaker 1>archive in Switzerland, which you know, whatever. Wait, but but

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<v Speaker 1>then who decides because the democracy failed? And then one

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<v Speaker 1>person was like no, never mind, there wasn't quorum, Like well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what I would love to tell you. That

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<v Speaker 1>what I have been looking for. So you have the

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<v Speaker 1>airs and you have the various like international Olympic committees reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's someone in the structure of the International Olympic Committee, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I decided we need to vote by telegram. It's dead

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<v Speaker 1>And I've looked at these telegrams extensively, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it's I can't prove it true or

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<v Speaker 1>they would have written a boo about it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure they were like, now we can't have the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics here, like we need to, like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>do another vote because they've they've voted the wrong way

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Yeah, because all these parts people didn't come.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were like, no, we're not coming, like these

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<v Speaker 1>people are like having a revolution, Like I'm not going there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a it turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>a rough time to be I mean a nice time

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways. But nineteen thirty six pain Catalonian Barcelona

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<v Speaker 1>was like also a rough place, you know, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>there was a good place for sports. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find out, Okay. So whatever the process, they decided to

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<v Speaker 1>pick a more stable democracy instead, and so they gave

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<v Speaker 1>the nine six Olympics to Vimar, Germany. Yeah, which actually maybe, uh,

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 1>do you know what what won't collapse into a genocidal

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 1>fascist regime A pile of turtles, that's right, turtles all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down. Yeah, here's an advert for turtles. We're back.

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Have you enjoyed those turtles? So in the years that

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<v Speaker 1>followed ninety one, Margaret, some some stuff happened in Vimar Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Some things occurred. It's stopped being Vimar Germany. I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the main That was the main thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it stopping via my Germany? They went from interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and good into interesting and bad. Yeah. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the most distinct sumations of German history

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties. X. Yeah, yeah, that's all you need

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<v Speaker 1>to know about it. Everyone, we've done now, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>Catalonia actually remained pretty stable under the earc relations in

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<v Speaker 1>Madrid got much worse than nineteen thirty three when the Data,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a Catholic right wing party took power in

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<v Speaker 1>Madrid and began to crack down on Catalan autonomy and

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<v Speaker 1>social progress. And they were extremely progressive. Right, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about what the sports, but like the legalized abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>you could divorce with no particular preconditions if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>They were massive on literacy, and we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>really big on eradicating tuberculosis as well. Okay, is this

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<v Speaker 1>the Spanish Republic or is this Catalonian specific This is

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<v Speaker 1>Catalonia specifically, So like throughout the Spanish Republic, Catalonia has

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<v Speaker 1>this left wing liberal left progressive party, and in Madrid

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<v Speaker 1>they have liberal left progressive super Judge for two years

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and then liberal left Progressive and then when the liberal

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<v Speaker 1>left regressive party get elected the second time, or party

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of Popular Front elected the second time, the civil

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<v Speaker 1>war begins because the army ain't having that ship, which

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear more about, we did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole episode on that Jamie loft Us last year which

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<v Speaker 1>I read James's work to do a good chunk of

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being one of the least dozen people

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<v Speaker 1>who Yeah, and some of them are not related to me,

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I say, because I've given it to my family. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they haven't cracked it because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they own it. Yeah, the same thing. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>relations between the anarchists and the e f C were

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<v Speaker 1>not super great at this time. The e C. The

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<v Speaker 1>anarchist didn't like the government. Yeah, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>strange stuff. Well that this definitely ends with the anarchists

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<v Speaker 1>being partly with the government for a bit, It's true, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that the go ahead. Yeah, then ends

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 1>with them are getting England, which that will happen. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't a call uncommon for anarchist cops and

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<v Speaker 1>high guns acting on part of employers to get into

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<v Speaker 1>shootouts in the raval working class neighborhood they called the

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<v Speaker 1>Bardi Chenz, which means Chinatown, not because there was any

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>particular concentration of Asia or Chinese people there, but because

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen gangster films about Chicago's Chinatown and figured they

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of the same vibe, which they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>love for them. So one way, the Catalan government did

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<v Speaker 1>try and reach out to the anarchists working class was

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<v Speaker 1>through sport. Okay, Both anarchists and liberals, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller socialists and communist factions, had a history of

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>organized sports in Barcelona. The Catalan Olympic Committee predated the

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Spanish one, and Catalan teams had helped to advance, accord

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<v Speaker 1>to Catlin nationalism wall around Europe. But the e f

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<v Speaker 1>c U sport kind of differently. It wasn't about like

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<v Speaker 1>elite sport. It wasn't about like sending your national team

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<v Speaker 1>of like sporting freaks somewhere else. It was using sport

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<v Speaker 1>to bring working people into its its Catalan project, right, Okay,

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Anakist sports slightly different. Anarchist sport had always praised itself

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>more in terms of public health. They were bigger to

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>teach your kids to swim so they wouldn't drown, And

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>they were really big into the eradication of tuberculosis. Actually,

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the anarchists, Yeah, yeah, fun tuberculosis. Yeah, let's the official

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>stance of this podcast. That's all of cool Zone media

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>were an anti fuberculosis, which still kills a bunch of people.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I had no idea it kills so many

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>people just because of different levels of access to care

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>found not in certain parts of the world anyway. Yeah,

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's bastard in its way. I have to get a

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>chest X ray every time I wanted to teach at

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>New University, okay, because you have to pass the tuberculos

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>test to teach in California. And I guess that's fair. Yeah,

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been vaccinated, so I don't pass the test. See. Instead,

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they're just like take some of these rays and you

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>know you're not. You're looking at it like if I

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>get cancer, please to them. Okay, so um. And it

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>supports also about this idea of the three eights, right,

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure you've talked about before. I can't remember

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the three I don't think so okay lost tress or

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>just the three eights is like three hours for work,

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>three hours for work, eight hours for work, yeahs for

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like sleeping, and then eight hours for playing self improvements

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>of education. These guys are fiercely educated, like the Catalan

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>anarchists are amazing like autodidacts. They're reading like all the

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>Their theory comes from working people educating themselves in each other, right,

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're super big on speaking Esperanto, yeah, which yeah,

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've spoken about this before, but it's

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>so cool. They're like, well, the thing that's holding back

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the global working classes kind of talk to each other.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>So we've gotta learn Esperanto, and and so they would

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>teach themselves esperanto. The only person I've met who told

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>me that he spoke esperanto was the Dutch squatter lawyer

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>who wore a like huge fur coat and was super gay.

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>At like every squad action he ruled. He was always

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>like the police liaison and he would just like go

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>up and talk to the cops, probably not in Esperanto

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's the working class language. Yeah, you shouldn't done.

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>He could have just drive it out. Yeah anyway. Yeah,

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So the two e f C and anarchist concepts of

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>sport met in this thing called popular sport, which is

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the popular Front, right, Okay, it's not

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the socialist and workers Socialist workers sport was pretty much

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>limited to socialists. Communist spark tackiads are for communists, right,

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>popular sport the idea was for everyone, and the idea

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>was for people just to get healthy. Have found it

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>like this is a time in the thirties where people

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>going like are dying very quickly because of the jobs

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>they are doing, right, Like, it's Barcelona is a very

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>industrial town. Catalonia is more industrial than the rest of Spain,

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and their jobs are killing them. Okay, were they shin kicking? Yeah?

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:08.959
<v Speaker 1>That was the shin kicking factory. Really, it's a short career, rock. Yeah,

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not as short as you are once your shins

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>get kicked off, I guess. Oh yeah, bang my gong.

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Things weren't really going so well in Berlin, so real

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>history buffs may be aware that the Fimar Republic did

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>not in fact make it. Instead, the country was under

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the increasingly ironclad fist of Madison Cawthorne's favorite author, Adolf Hitler.

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>He used to be my fucking politician where used to live?

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, yeah, okay, well I'm glad he's not anymore. Yeah. Sorry.

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Despite this dramatic pivot for Germany, the IOC saw no

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>reason to take the games away, okay, which is like

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>such an interesting inversion, right, because they show up at

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a monarchy and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>know about this democracy ship. That's a little messy. Let's

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>go to that democracy and then that democracy becomes an autocracy,

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, that's that's shure, that's fine. Yeah, it's

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>called the trains run on time famously, so it's fine,

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>which they didn't but no, no, yeah, but that's it's

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>it's more about what we tell ourselves, isn't it. Across

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the world, people decided that taking an international event which

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>claimed to be about fraternity and fair play to a

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>regime that explicitly about anti semitism and fascism wasn't a

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>good idea actually, m and so this boycott movement begins

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to coalesce in the United States. It's really cool. Actually,

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it brings together like liberal Catholics, Jewish groups, Communists, and most,

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>if not all, of the black press and black political organizations. Okay,

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it really coalesces these these groups in in a way

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that hadn't they hadn't done before. And in the U

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>S they're very very nearly succeeded in achieving a boyco Actually,

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the US very nearly boycotted the Olympics, and if the

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>U S had, like I've looked at British Cabinet papers

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>about this, Britain was like by Olympics for an American

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>thing in two. L A had hosted the olymp picks

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and like it was amazing. It was very l A.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>The Olympic village was patrolled by cowboys and funded by

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 1>real estate speculators, which is the most l A thing. Right.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>The pentathlon is now no more swords. You just have

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to shoot the guns wall on the horses, you know.

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>General MacArthur competed in the modern pentathlon earlier Olympics, but

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>with just qualifacts. He was using a handgun so large

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.479
<v Speaker 1>that they couldn't tell if he'd shot a good grouping

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>or just destroyed the target. Rules again, Yeah, it was

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of a chad move. Just the shotgun. Fucky, you're

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>just turning up with a hand cannon and yeah, I'm

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>taking the whole target ten feet backwards every time. So

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>this is where our boy Every brandage comes in, right,

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>every brand age leads to don't boycott movement. I guess, okay,

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's I don't think he went into the let's go

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to the Olympics. Nine Nazi Germany things an anti sem

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>might be. He sure as funk came out as one. Okay.

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>He becomes convinced that he's being taken down by a

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Jewish communist plot that that's a quote from him. He

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>which is I think it used to be able to

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>say in an interview to the newspapers and just still

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>become chair of the International Olympic Committee later. I'm just

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>laughing as the thing that is always funny is not

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the right world, but I'm gonna use it. Funny about

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism is that it's it's Schrodinger's capitalist you know,

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>like the Jewish person is either a capitalist or a communist,

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>whichever one you hate. That's what they are. Yeah, yeah,

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Sing is a bad guy. Yeah. So to find out

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>what was going on in Germany, every brand, a dude

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>who didn't speak German decided to take a fact finding

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>tour around Nazi Germany accompanied by Nazi Germans. It's shocking,

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>pure unfiltered truth. Yeah. He just went in there like

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>like so many cringey journalists, you try and do that.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't. So through his trans eighty discussions translated by

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>his Nazi mind, he didn't see any red flags, shockingly,

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and he became a strong supporter of keeping politics out

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of sport, which is always a way of moting the

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>status quare right. It's always bullshit in Europe. The Olympic

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>movement didn't really bother with reaching out to like national

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Olympic committees that were all run by counts and marquees

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and things, but they just got on with taking their

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>alternative setting up an alternative. So I realized that we

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>are like two thousand words in now, but this is

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>where we give us to talk about the thing that

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. To say, the thing that we're talking about, Yeah,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it's called the Popular Olympics. We touched on it in

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the Spanish Civil War episodes, so I'm really excited to

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>learn more about it. Chess and yeah, there was no

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>shin kicking, there was human human tower building. I love

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that we're like thirty minutes in, here's what we're talking about.

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, this is this is my like perpetual lot

0:33:56.000 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>as a recovering academic. That's where you're like, I'm reading

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>all about these autodiet acts. They're so like, I know,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>if I know one thing, I know that James is

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>not about to compliment academia. I know that it can

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>fuck off. But as I did for me, yeah, yeah,

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what you shouldn't abandon and walk away from

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>after after ten years of wasting your life turtles. Yeah,

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't abandon the turtle. Because I've been thinking about this,

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and I've been thinking about how it really is a

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>new year and it's time for a new sponsor. Here

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>are cool people did cool stuff. And I'm not gonna

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>stop loving potatoes. I'm not gonna stop growing potatoes badly,

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but turtles. What if? My what if my Instagram turning

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 1>message in box was full of memes about turtles instead

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of memes about potatoes. I'm tired of the potato memes.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Videos Watching turtles eat food is one of

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful things on this planet. You know, they

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>also do eat potatoes. As soon as I oh, I

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>told someone I was going to do this and they

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>were like, and they immediately sent me a meme oft

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 1>potato and I'm like, that's that counts. This does warm

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>my heart. I stopped in a bike race wants to

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>rescue a turtle hero. It was upside down. He won

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the real that at the end they gave you an award. Now, yeah,

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you've met bike people, Margaret and hit

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>their shins themselves. No, no, they said that organization. It's

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>not given me any woods. I turned out their name

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>was extremely racist, and it's probably well let's let's let's

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>hear from the turtles. We're back, and yeah, turtle wax

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>made some turtles. So in Europe, as I said, right,

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>they they had a little conference actually in Paris in

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>April of nineteen thirty six, and this conference welcomed people

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>from the workers Sport movement who actually weren't going to

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Germany because Germany was in the process of violently suppressing

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>any workers movements. Yeah, Jewish groups who weren't going to Germany.

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't think we have to explain that one. Anti

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>fascists similarly, and some genuinely concerned liberals, like there were

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a few liberals who were like, yeah, it doesn't seem right. Uh,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>something up with those Germans, especially the Nazi Germans. They

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>all meet in Paris at this confidence international conference with

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the respect of the Olympic ideal, which it's very clear

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>that they know that the Olympic ideal is bullshit because

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>they write about it being bullshit before and after. But

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>they they're quite smart in being like, hey, you're not

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>doing the thing you said you would do, Like we're

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>going to call you out of the ship activists never

0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a change. It was I think quite smart and I

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>think it probably Yeah, it brings in some liberals who

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>who may have not wanted to play with the anarchists otherwise,

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So in April they come to the enimous decision. Instead

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the Catalans, the people who wanted to host the games anyway,

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>had all the stadia to do it, they should host

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the games. That's right, Yeah, it does. The problem is

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it's April, and it's not possible to do anything in

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Spain in August because it's not a month that people work,

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and that is a good thing. But they yeah, you

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>take August off. It's not working, is good, not being

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>productive to capitalism. It is a way to spend your

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>time that is laudable. And so they have to do

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>it in a summer. So they're going to do it

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>in July, right, They want to get there ahead of

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the Berlin Games, so that gives them three months to

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>organized Olympiad, which sports fans will know it's not really long.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>So by this time the Popular Front policy of the

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union in the comment Tern had resulted in alliance

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of leftists and Borgia liberals against fasciston By May a

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Popular Front coalition of leftists and anti fascist parties helped

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>power in France, Spain and Catalonia, so they all came

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>together to support the games. So normally at the Olympics,

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>nations compete for prowess, right at this Olympics they co operated.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So Spain and France paid three hundred thousand Pacentos, Catalonia

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand. And the facilities were already there. They've

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>been used for the World's Fair, which is another gathering

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of the transnational bourgeoisie. Yeah, and some really really weird

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>racist stuff happened at those, which will talk about another time.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So they had the facilities already, They had a hotel

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>which they renamed the Hotel Olympic, and they started refitting

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>it to house as many people as possible. They want

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to read a little bit from one of the letters

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>they sent out trying to recruit people, right, they were

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>very quickly they were like, uh, this this is big.

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Then we have to have to people who can actually compete.

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>So it is necessary to give a practical demonstration of

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the international anti fascist sport. And it is just this

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that the People's Olympiad is going to do. Popular Old

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>people's like the same thing. I prefer popular actually the

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>organizing committing one of their letters. So what they're trying

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to do here is they're trying to show the ability

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Popular Front to organize and the strength of

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the Popular Front, right, Like we're not just a few

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like old socialists men like smoking pipes in rooms talking

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>about a popular front, Like we have thousands of young

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 1>people who will kick your ass when we when we

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>do a war. Yeah, oh I never even thought about that.

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>How it's like a flexing. It's like no, no, no,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand. There's a big war coming between fascism

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>and anti fascism, and we're gonna win. Yes, we will

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>take Like I mean, if you look at many of

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the modern Olympic traditions, right the opening ceremony with the flags,

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the national anthems have done when the medal is awarded,

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>these are creations of Carl D. M a Nazi German

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like and it's very specifically to be like we we

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>are the alphas here, we will kill you. They last. Yeah,

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>they didn't win, not win famously there for two in

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>World Wars. So the poor stets, the the infrastructure of

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>the games communicates a message, right, you've got Beijing had

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a bird's nest. Berlin had a bell tower with this

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>bell that summoned the youth of the world on it

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>engraved in it. I told you l A had the

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Olympic Village controlled by cowboys and sold off by real

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>estate developers. But but Lind's Olympic Village is kind of interesting.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>How did the volunteer pilots of the Condor Legion? Do

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you know the Condor Legion, O Margaret, they're the ones

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>who ended up bomb in northern Spain during the Civil War.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>They are, Yeah, they're the first. That's not true to

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:58.399
<v Speaker 1>say that they're the first people of the carpet bomb

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>cities in Europe. Oh so nice people. They were living

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>at the Olympic Village in Balin. I mean, while Barcelona

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't have Olympic Village, so you used the stadium they

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>already had and the ability to athletes wherever they could.

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>You can see one of the things I found in

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the archive, which is kind of cool. It's just a

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>little questionnaire that they put through people's doors and be like,

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>we are having an anti fat Olympics. Would you like

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to host someone? How many beds do you have do

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you have a sofa? It's really sweet and you can

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>take sweet. I'll give them breakfast and like they would

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>be compensated accordingly, right, And this is okay, I really

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like because it's like you can actually organize things in

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a decentralized way. It's still an organizational system, like people

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>will be like the only way to organize as you

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>set up a village, and you like otherwise it's just

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>pure chaos, and instead you have these organizational systems that

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>harness chaos. You just are like, okay, well, yeah, we'll

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>go around and ask every that rules instead of like

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And that's a weird minor point, but

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 1>that that seems like an important way of doing it. Yeah.

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Everything they did with like this, everything they did was

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>communal and sort of like ground up organized. It was

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.240
<v Speaker 1>organized by an organizing committee that comprised some government officials,

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of union officials, and then people from these

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>various sports organizations. So they did it like you would

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>do your your union stuff. Um so the French rail unions,

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>for instance, also club together and they won't got a

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>charge anyone coming through France on the trains, right like free?

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, it was amazing everyone who they could travel

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>on the trams free in Barcelona because the Transport Union

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>were down with it with the Olympics, Like, they could

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>eat for free in various places. So what if we

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>had a whole society built on this idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>well we would tried, didn't we really? Yeah, we tried,

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>really tried. So they could take free buses around town.

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>The stadium held seventy two people, the Botanical Garden for

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>another venue, and they had a network of esperantist translators

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>right to bridge the language gaps between participants, so that yeah,

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>it's very cool. And the last living participant in the

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Popular Olympics with a guy called it Guidor Vivanco's he

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was an esperantist and he died last year in Canada

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>before I was able to go and meet him because

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of the pandemic. He was living in an old folks home. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>but this is deeply cool guy who's like he was.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>He was sixteen when the Popula Olympics happened, right he was,

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>he'd already tat himself esperanto. He was out there trying

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to translate, so you know, working people of the world

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 1>could could meet each other and then obviously gets swept

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>up into Spanish Civil War ends up living in Canada.

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.959
<v Speaker 1>Like to his dying day, remained dedicated to this idea

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that if we could all speak one language and the

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>working people of the world would stick up for one another.

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's it's it's sad that we've kind of

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>lost that a little bit along the way. Yeah, and

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and and from a bottom up point of view, right,

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>instead of like a top down organization being like you

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>now everyone, because like we have this like English is

0:43:55.440 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>becoming the ironically Lingua franco, but like that's this like

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 1>top down imperial and position versus this idea of like

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing that can connect us, even if it's like

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how the Esperanto saw it, but in

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>my mind it would be like beautiful if it was.

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Instead of being like this is everyone's first language, it's

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like this is everyone's second language. This is how everyone

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>can cross reference and connect without abandoning your culture and identity.

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's what. Yeah, Esperanto is definitely like it's not

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like your primary language, and it's very simple,

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to speak, and it gets designed to

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>facilitate that communication without taking a place in another language.

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It's really cool. Yeah, Olympics were very much a other

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>place where gender equality was celebrated at lea started Berlin.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Right after watching women's world record break on the track

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in one reporter for the Pittsburgh Press wrote, it was

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>not a very edifying spectacle to see a group of

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>fine girls running themselves into a state of exhaustion, and

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>probably thereafter they stopped women from running more than two left,

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they I don't know, lose their feminine charms. So his

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>face looks deeply sad. So the popular Olympics are con

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.439
<v Speaker 1>slightly different approach, right and one of their letters, they wrote,

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the picture of the People's Olympiad would not be complete

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>if women did not have heard you place in it,

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>particularly in Spain. It's women far from being free. The

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>sport and above all sports of a popular character. It's

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the best and most important means of achieving

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>women's liberation cannot be open to doubt. The participation of

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>many women in the Popular Olympiad is therefore one of

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the most important objects, which is great institution has to fulfill.

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And so they were. They were pretty pretty based in

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>their regard. One of the groups that helped organize it

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>was called the Catalan Feminists and Sports Club. Okay, so look,

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I think we spent a little bit about before how

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they had overlap with heads libres who are like the

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>free women. It's one of these. Like one of the

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>women who was part of this was Marina Janesta, who's

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the woman everybody's seen like standing on top of the

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>building with the mauser, Like if you've seen one picture

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of interesting, Yeah, she was a war correspondent and she

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't wasn't a fighter. There's actually a really good photo

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of her with the routie and she's translating for the

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>routie into French so he can speak to someone else. Oh,

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I've heard such a different That makes me very happy

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>because I've I've always heard that that picture as someone

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>who was like in the street fighting against the anarchists,

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like during the when the communists and the anarchists were fighting. No,

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>she um, she was. She was a walk correspondent that

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>we are. That makes me a way happier. The person

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you were thinking of is someone else, And I think

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>about different photo. No you're not, you're thinking of the

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>same photo and I think it's not an uncommon thing

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to hear, but they're distinct individuals. Okay, great. So the

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Barcelona Games had longer races for women basketball tennis events.

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>They also had events so it would consider a lady

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like like shot put and javelin and shin kicking. Yeah,

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>but of course that was just a fun everyone went

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to shine kicking. You kind of have medals for it.

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 1>So another unique event they had was a mass relay race,

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>which is really cool. The mass relay race pits the

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>entire team of a nation against another nation, So like

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a twenty by fifty running race and like no

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>one had twenty running athletes, right, so you've got like

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>boxes and white ship Okay, cool. Yeah, it's got like

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a real school sports day vibe. They also had a

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>ten ever so sad because it wasn't chess one of

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the games. They'd be so sad, like, yeah, now the

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>relay and I'd be like, I'm sick, okay, go into

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 1>there playing my nails in the corner. Yeah. The mathletes

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>really let the team down in a mass running relay.

0:47:58.200 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>But there's a reason for this, right. They had a

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.399
<v Speaker 1>ten by fifth Do you meet a swimming event as well.

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>And the reason for this is because they didn't want

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to reward like one or two exceptional athletes, like genetic freaks.

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>They wanted to reward the nation which has elevated the

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>well being of its working class the highest right. So

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>if if your runners can also swim, that's because working

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>class people can swim where you're from. That means that

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>working class kids won't drown, and so you you get

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to win, right, Like the goal is to emphasize the

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 1>popular calendar at the Games. There were, yeah, there were

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>other weird events. I mean there was a weeklong chess tournament,

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.280
<v Speaker 1>there were folklore exhibitions, the building of Catlan human towers,

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>which is a great Catlan tradition, and Scottish country dancing

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>would accompany the games. They they were also is why

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>why Scottish country dancing? Because I'm like, I've run across that,

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like like the Russian nihilists like sixty years earlier, had

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>been really obsessed with like Scottish fashion. Was there like

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>some weird Scottish working class thing going on that everyone

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>was into, or I mean there were you'll see these

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 1>working class Scots pot back up in like the International

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Brigades and stuff. I think it's more of a celebration

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>of the diversity of the Popular Front. So they also

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>bought a bunch of bagpipers with them, and they had

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>all these folklore exhibitions the way to be like we're

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>European and but we were like ethnically inclusive. So here's

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the Scots they were. They weren't killed. Some play bagpipes.

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>They're really weird. We like them. Yeah, yeah, they belong

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>with it, so I'm just curious. Yeah, So they had

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>every so like you had Algerians taking part, where you

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 1>have people from China, like all these people that are

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to celebrate the different cultures that form a Popular Front. Read.

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.919
<v Speaker 1>Another thing they were very very keen on was having

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>black people from the United States because they felt that

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like the anti fascist struggle with very much inclusive of

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the struggle of people living under segregation in the United States.

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>So they actually paid their way. They didn't pay most

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>people's way, but they paid for people to come on

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>boats from United States. That rules, there was no saluting

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of flags. Instead. Palka sALS, who I think people might

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>not be familiar with. He's like the modern He's a

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>founder of the modern way that people play cellos. Okay, yeah,

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 1>he flips it on the side and plays it like

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a bass guitar. He doesn't do that. I was like, what,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a cell that way. Oh god, I

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 1>can do that as a freakishly tall man. I can

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 1>play a cello like a bass. And it doesn't go

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:33.879
<v Speaker 1>down well with chellis. If you pick one up, start

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>doing purple or something, yeah, and encourage everyone to try.

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>If there's a cellist or cello in the home. So yeah, yeah,

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>what is it without a cellow It's also a great

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>home defense weapon. If cellow someone in the face and

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you just start, you threaten to play cello and everyone's like,

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that's why I carry the Equalian. No one nor mess

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>with me. They're like, oh yeah, I got my little

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>bag pipe chanter right here, like that that will clearer

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>room when I have a bagpipe chamber. Then arms reached.

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Also really yeah, no way, oh yeah, outstanding stuff, Sophie. Right,

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>let's say just divert it quickly. I don't. I do not,

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and you both are fucking nerves. Don't ever change. I

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>can't keep the any drums or anything in the space

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that I record, but other instruments are fine, the cool

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>zone media pipes and drums, and now everyone here was

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<v Speaker 1>present for the founding of that. So yeah, they had

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<v Speaker 1>this this song called the Hint of the Popularlympics. Palka

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Salz was going to conduct it. The words written by

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<v Speaker 1>your step money Eddi Sagara, who's Catalan poet, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the music was written by Hans Eisler. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>German Jewish composer who had obviously been forced out of Germany. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're probably wondering, if you're listening, what you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of these games before? They seem like they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, and perhaps I think you might have read

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<v Speaker 1>about Well, the reason you haven't heard of them was

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<v Speaker 1>because they were supposed to begin on the nineteenth of July,

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and something else began on the nineteenth of duly th

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>six and that thing is the Spanish Civil War. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit sad um. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe where I want to end this episode with the

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.359
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the end. What we want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>next time is that what did these twenty thousand athletes

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<v Speaker 1>do when the Spanish Civil War started? Lincoln? They spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>and that didn't go home. And they didn't do sports either.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Sport you get to shoot guns, that's the sport they

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<v Speaker 1>probably Yeah, they probably did some running. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>then you could really if you could have employed a

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.879
<v Speaker 1>shot putter like tactically, that would have been quite quite strung.

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 1>You big circle bombs, just ht just start eating. Look

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 1>at giant stones, and just to say that in Barcelona

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the pavement was never like that because it's cobbled, right,

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 1>but they they know the bother fixing it down because

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they're always building barricades around here. Yeah, so like people

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.919
<v Speaker 1>would just people would crowbar up the stones and throw

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>them at cops when they were on strike, which I'm

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 1>sure they still do this and that makes me happy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it. I think they haven't seen I've

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.840
<v Speaker 1>seen barricades. I'm trying to think I've seen a stone barricade.

0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I went to bust Only with a friend a while

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:38.439
<v Speaker 1>ago now and we've been there for about twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time we got tear gas again. It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed just so much. Well, do you have anything

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:52.919
<v Speaker 1>like to plug James and or Margaret James e go first. Yeah, sure,

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a podcast that I do it's called It Could

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Happen Here, and you can listen to that also on

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>your telephone or of a hearing device. Yeah, I think

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that's already. I'm unbanned from Twitter again, so you can

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>find me there. Congratulate. I enjoy posting pictures of Ussolini

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with his friends, and sometimes I get banned

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>for those. So yeah, James stout, what are you gonna do?

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Can't change? Well, how about you? Margaret. Margaret is a

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>book that's out I know. Well, what's funny is it's

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be out of pre order as of a

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 1>week ago. When you're listening to this, but it might

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>still be in pre order. You might have a last

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>chance to get a free poster with it, because the

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>publisher may or may not have um not the printer

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of the posters is taking some time. It's called Escape

0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>from Insul Island. It's about people who want to no

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 1>longer be on Insul Island. If you want to hear

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 1>James play a game based on Escape from Insul Island,

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you should check out the podcast Strangers in the Tangled

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Wilderness that ran a live play of the gang from

0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It Could Happen Here playing Escape from Insul Island and

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's more fun than it's actually I think that sounds fun.

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not saying it very enthusiastically. I know. I'm

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>sad Sophie wasn't playing. Yeah, Sophie hates roleplaying games. I

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:35.759
<v Speaker 1>was the people who played him. Yeah, somebody has to

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:39.840
<v Speaker 1>work around here, Margaret, Sure, it's fun commiss No, it

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 1>certainly can't. And you can follow me on Twitter, where

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I somehow have not banned. I feel like I'm not

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>trying hard enough at Magpie Killjoy or Instagram at Margaret Killjoy.

0:55:52.920 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And you can learn about turtles by observing that you

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can from a distance. Yeah, don't work with turtles or

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.919
<v Speaker 1>send me pictures of your plants. That's my plug. Yeah,

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to see them, especially turtle plant. Send them

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to me on Twitter. Yeah, if you have a string

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of turtle, send it to me. But not someone making

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 1>one out of real turtles. That will make everyone very angry. Plant. Yeah. Yeah,

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that's there, Like like one of them is chomping on

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the next one's tail, and then the next one chomping

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 1>on the next one's time. God, turtles are so cute,

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I know. Could you imagine them doing well We'll be

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