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Speaker 2: Snoop was there, Cameron Diaz was there.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys all know each other?

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Speaker 2: Did you say hello?

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Speaker 2: Great story?

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Speaker 3: You should have told you know, Willy, It's a great story.

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Speaker 1: I know I should have said, hey, my friend's Willie back.

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Speaker 2: They called me squirrel. I'm kind of a big deal

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julian Gentleman. They're Jack

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Speaker 1: and Kyler, and we're on a mission to find the

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Speaker 1: greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we are

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Speaker 1: covering Patriots versus Colts Week thirteen, two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: with Patriots Hall of Famer, three times super Bowl champ

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Speaker 1: and Long Beach legend Willie McGinnis. And we're talking Colts

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Speaker 1: versus Patriot. It's rivalry.

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Speaker 2: One of the best teams ever.

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Speaker 4: I would say, offensively, how to trick Peyton Manning?

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Speaker 2: You cannot let him see what you're in coverages are nothing.

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Speaker 4: And Willie's thoughts on coach Vrabel he doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: be Bill.

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Speaker 1: And then we had the hotline with this week's Chisen

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Speaker 1: presented by Corp's Light. You gotta stick around to the

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Speaker 1: very end.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Games of Name is the production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 5: November thirty, two thousand and three, the RCA Dome, Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: It all comes down to one yard, but.

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Speaker 1: Willie Mack said, not today.

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Speaker 6: This is not today in the RCA.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. Today we are looking at

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Speaker 1: Patriots versus Colts early on in the Rivalry, Week thirteen

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Speaker 1: of the two thousand and three season, with Willie Mack

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Speaker 1: in one sentence, Willie, why did you pick this game?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It's one of the games I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of fans from Indianapolis hate me for just because of

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Speaker 2: what came of that game. You know what we got

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Speaker 2: out of it. After the game, we got home filled

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Speaker 2: throughout and the infamous they called the fake injury, the

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Speaker 1: Is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 2: It's one of I wouldn't say it's the greatest because

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Speaker 2: it's it's you know it's a regular season game, but

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Speaker 2: it had a lot of emphasis on where we went

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Speaker 2: that year. But it's one of you know, you can't

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Speaker 2: ever you played in super Bowls and played in big games,

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Speaker 2: you can't ever like put certain stack certain super Bowls

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Speaker 2: over regular AFC championships or games that had a lot

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Speaker 2: of implications on where you landed. But foundation, it's a

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Speaker 2: foundational It's a memorable game. It's an important game in

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Speaker 2: my career, of course, because a lot of people remember.

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah, this is an insane game. What is the

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Speaker 1: greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 3: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Probably? The first Super Bowl for me was in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and one when we played the Rams Greatest Show

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Speaker 2: on turf, because nobody really gave us a chance. Nobody

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Speaker 2: I just remember the stories of them getting fitted for

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Speaker 2: Everybody had that nobody gave us a chance. Nobody except

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Speaker 2: To change everything because of their offense, of how electric

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you know a rule was changed after

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Speaker 4: good to see you at the Hall of Fame, Bro.

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Speaker 1: That means a lot. What people don't realize. The lore

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Speaker 1: You know how Bill is when he puts up other tape.

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Speaker 2: The system has been in place, and if you can

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Speaker 2: here's the install here's what I need you to do.

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Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is, you played for Parcels and

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Speaker 1: And it's and it's really cool to see the current Patriots. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think he's doing well. I think what Rabe understands

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Speaker 1: No, it was a don't it doesn't matter. They got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think they're still developing, especially you

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little early to just write them

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Speaker 1: And I know Ray's gonna make him practice outside. Probably

438
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: he got it right.

439
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 8: Of course, if you're gonna punch a receiver in the face,

440
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 8: do it within the first five yards.

441
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 3: Not right, Jeels, they could get away with it. Another rule,

442
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: another rule was in place because of us. I think

443
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: that rule against the Colts.

444
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 2: Colts are Colts and Coats and Ravens. You had some

445
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: games against the Raids. Those are the two teams. While

446
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: a lot of these rules exist now because of the complaining.

447
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: All I know is them Colts. They were the ones

448
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: over here on that deflate gate. Oh this balls on flat?

449
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: Oh man bro I was about to say, does everybody

450
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: know what happened with the study that they supposedly had done?

451
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: Yes, study, it was supposed to be we won.

452
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, every everything came back inconsistent with every team. Some

453
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: balls were deflated, some balls were a little over deflated,

454
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: some balls were this. You had no consistent evidence that

455
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: those balls were different than any other team in the league.

456
00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: And and and guess what.

457
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: Instead of coming out with all the information they found,

458
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: they just didn't talk about it.

459
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it.

460
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 9: Remember that there was that playoff game It was like

461
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 9: ten to ten below degrees against the Vikings, And I

462
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 9: think I forget who and they're like, oh, we're keeping

463
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 9: track of all the like air pressures of balls, and

464
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 9: there was absolutely zero dot that came out of that

465
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 9: game because it was probably like nine psi.

466
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: And then the funny thing is because I watched that game,

467
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: you guys, no, you know, threw up. But here's the

468
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: other thing. Here's the other caveat the game was super

469
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: close to the first half.

470
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: After they took the.

471
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Balls and gave you the balls, they wanted you to

472
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: have you blew them out.

473
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: In the second half. It wasn't even I think little

474
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: Garrett still running, it wasn't even close, still run. It

475
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 4: wasn't even close. So I was like, what's the difference.

476
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 4: What was the difference in the balls.

477
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: It's so funny you said the Baltimore Ravens and Indy

478
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: because the I think it was Baltimore tipped off Indy. Yes,

479
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: because we played Baltimore first round and then we blew

480
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: out in the second round.

481
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 9: Harbor was pissed about the Baltimore formations.

482
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: Baltimore and Alabama.

483
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, who man, that was because we write that

484
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 9: from Alabama.

485
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: Yes, he wasn't ready. I gotta have you got it.

486
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: He That's the one thing about Bill he knew or

487
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: Ernie or whoever, they knew that rule book inside out,

488
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: backwards and things that probably wasn't even put in that

489
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: they could do one thousand percent. I mean that's another

490
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: advantage of preparation.

491
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: And also Rabel knows it because when we played him

492
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: in fucking nineteen, remember that on you guy the clock

493
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: run out. That motherfucker You're sitting on.

494
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: The sideline just smirking, sing.

495
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: His head like he knew exactly what I he.

496
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: Smart, smart guy. There's so many football stories within these stories.

497
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: What about some Matt Light stories? How was a young

498
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: man like? Because I got an old Light man, I

499
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: got old Matt.

500
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: L Like you got trickery running all the games and

501
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: every all the pranks and one he was still that

502
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: was always him though his personality was always above board.

503
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: He was always funny. He always worked hard. I mean

504
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 2: he was always I think, like that prankster and had

505
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: those jokes you know in his back pocket. He was

506
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: he he was one of the guys. He was. He's

507
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: hilarious and we had him on here.

508
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: He he brought out an email that Bill sent him

509
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: after when he shocked up.

510
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: And ship were you on mouse? Yes?

511
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: Were you on those teams? There were there were things

512
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: that we didn't even know. He was like he was

513
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: like he had he had anything to do with he

514
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: had like he.

515
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: Had so many things going on.

516
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: I was like, how do you find time to work

517
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: out to like to prepare a watch tape? Because he

518
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: was always scheming a prank or doing some type of

519
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: ship to somebody.

520
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this old line things my side job. Was

521
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: there anyone he.

522
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 9: Like wouldn't funk with you? Oh he knew if I

523
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 9: did it to Will fork out.

524
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: He fucked with Hernandez. Let's just put in that.

525
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh god, oh man, he didn't care. I mean

526
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: he got Bill.

527
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: If you're taking the Bill's office and get Bill, then

528
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: everybody everybody's.

529
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: Like that is that is wild to me because you

530
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: gotta get You gotta have some serious planning because you've

531
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: got little bears right up there.

532
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: You gotta get past bears to get into Bill's office.

533
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: There's some All right, we will get it.

534
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: We'll get it there.

535
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's talk about you grown up in Long

536
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: Beach football. I mean, you lived the stereotypical Southern California

537
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: athlete life. Long Beach Paul USC talk to us about

538
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: the l A football culture, l A sports culture. As

539
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: with the youths, I'm a Bay Area guy. I thought

540
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: we were better.

541
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: You know. We always we always played at the Bay.

542
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 2: We would always come up there, you know, and we.

543
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Never played you guys, we were't getting to play.

544
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: But who played for the forgot de Las so we

545
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: always played that, you know, the North always plays the South.

546
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, football is big, man. And actually I

547
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: was signed up by my mom. She took me to

548
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: sign up for football to kind of keep me out

549
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: of way. Shout out moms, thank you, love you. And

550
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: uh my first sport was t ball, t ball, t ball,

551
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: because that's the youngest sport you can get in. Yep,

552
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: you can get in at five. Well now we have

553
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: five and six in the youth and the sloop you

554
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: football leagues, we have five and six tackle football. Bro.

555
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 8: It's crazy, man, when I see those videos on TikTok,

556
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 8: those kids.

557
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: But it's good.

558
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: It's protective because a lot of people are concerned, right

559
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, you're putting five and six, five

560
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: and six year olds in pads, but when you put

561
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: them in flag, the kids run out of control and

562
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: they don't really have control yet, and their heads are

563
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: down because they're just trying to grab flags and stuff, right,

564
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: So they're out of control and there's no protection. These

565
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: kids aren't running fast enough for doing a bunch of

566
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: When you put the pads on them, it's they can

567
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: barely hold you know, the football, and they're running.

568
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: It's basically strengthening their little next.

569
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: It is, but it's getting them the core, the core

570
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: techniques and stuff at a young age. So they how

571
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: to get in the stance, how to hold the ball,

572
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: how to use the shoulder pad versus their head, you know,

573
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: how how to tackle, how to wrap up, how to

574
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: put your face across the ball. Receiver, if I or

575
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: or a D lineman or whatever O line get into

576
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: two point, get into three point, you know what I mean.

577
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: If I'm telling the receiver, you know, you know, get

578
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: in the receiver. You know you're get in the slot

579
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: versus outside or whatever. You know, the simple things. It's

580
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: it's football, literally, one on one, grassroots. And I started there,

581
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: and of course youth is big out here. And then

582
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: of course I went to Long Beach poly because when

583
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: I was coming up, if you didn't go to Long

584
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Beach Polly, which was the mecca. I think we're still

585
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: in the top five for most NFL guys in the league.

586
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: If you didn't go to Long Beach Polly, you just

587
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: you wasn't you were scared or you wasn't that good

588
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: and you were scared of competition because they had a

589
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: rich history of all the top players in the city

590
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: that wanted to go there and compete, and that was

591
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: the place to go. And then s C. It was

592
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: between SC and Colorado. Actually Colorado was winning Natties back

593
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: the Yeah, they were Cane and all those guys, all

594
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: those guys for all those guys, they were winning, And

595
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: I was close, but I wanted to go to a

596
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: place that I can get a great education, that my

597
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: parents can drive. We couldn't afford to fly all around

598
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: the country and see me play, that they can go

599
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: to home games. And I think they had just won

600
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: the Rose Boy to beat Michigan Bo schim Bler. How

601
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: you said his name, shim Blacker. They had just beat

602
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Bow and the rose Bow, and I was like, I'm

603
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: gonna go to sc got it, I'm gonna go to

604
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: I stayed home.

605
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: Who were some of the big names on your teams?

606
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: The big name who handed me that number.

607
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: Rest in peace junior and that's that's when fifty five

608
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: became fifty five for SC. You know, I like you

609
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: have number eleven at Penn State. He's the sole reason

610
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: why fifty five was the number and still the number

611
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: at USC. He played one year. He played one year

612
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: at USC. I think he was ineligible the first year.

613
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: Something happened. The next year he played his junior year,

614
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: had over twenty two twenty three sacks, just dominated, came

615
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: out top five pick, and he handed the number down

616
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: to me. I was next in line, and then that's

617
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: how it started. So he was another reason why I

618
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: wanted to go to USC. You know, he's an ocean

619
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: kid from you know, from the San Diego area. And

620
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: just seeing a lot of guys from where I was

621
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: from go to SC and across town u c l

622
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: a stay at home and that that battle and everything.

623
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: I was just like, they have everything I want at

624
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: the school.

625
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, at USC at that time, yeah, powerhouse was

626
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: that was the West Coast. If you were the baddest

627
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: players in California, you went to USC. I didn't even

628
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: think about USC because I didn't ever thought I was

629
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: that good like I was looking at like coal and ship,

630
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. USC that's where I mean

631
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: some of the most epic teams, epic names, Heisman trophies,

632
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: National champions always in the Rose Bowl.

633
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: And that was that was the bowl at the time.

634
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Right still, I still think it is well it is.

635
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: It just now is different. They shift the national championship

636
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: according to whatever the case may be.

637
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: But you went, you went to school with Snoop he

638
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: was at Long Beach poly.

639
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: Snoop was there, Cameron Diaz was there.

640
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Did you know of these did you guys all know

641
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: each other?

642
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: Of course that's so dope. Is it a big school?

643
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: I mean kids at the school.

644
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: It's a big school because they have a college prep

645
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: magnet program as well. So like it's it's called Polytechnic actually,

646
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: so we are into it's the home of scholars in

647
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: chapter Polynesian bro Yeah, I know, I mean we did

648
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: have a lot of Polynesians there. We do have a

649
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: lot of Polynesians. Don't don't trip. That's Long Beach right there.

650
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: You know, we got a good mix of everything. But yeah,

651
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 2: there's a lot of I think like five thousand students.

652
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: It's big.

653
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: You see, it was public school.

654
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeh, it's huge, huge wrapping in the hallways.

655
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: No, I mean it was he was doing his thing.

656
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Was like more like two to one three at the time.

657
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: They had a little a little crew called two one three.

658
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Cameron used to cheer in the football team. She's a cheerleader. Yeah,

659
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: you can pull up the footage and all that. We had.

660
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean we she was like, I think, did the

661
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: cover of seventeen magazine at the time. So we had

662
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: we had some people. Warren g had came through there

663
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: for a year I think, and then went back up

664
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: north to North Long Beach. But we had, you know,

665
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of names. That's awesome. It's

666
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: a pretty pretty familiar school there. It is.

667
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: Cheering for a boy like man, look at him out

668
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: there balling.

669
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: So I think in twenty seventeen, I mean, I I'm

670
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: in the back bay and I used to just take

671
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: night walks, you know, like just go walk out to

672
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: night knowing no one can see you anything. I'm walking

673
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: down calm av in the park, I could have I

674
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: swear to God, it's Cameron Dia. She walks randomly right

675
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: by me. It's like, what the fuck was that? Cameron Diaz.

676
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Did you say hello?

677
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: Didn't say hello?

678
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: Great, great story. It's a great story.

679
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: I should have said hey.

680
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: My friends Ulie back they called me squirrel. I'm kind

681
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: of a big deal out here in Boston. You might

682
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: want to know.

683
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: It was like it was like it was like a movie.

684
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Though it was like a movie.

685
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: It was like that was does bro Maybe she was practicing,

686
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: you know.

687
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: I think I think she was shooting a movie in Boston.

688
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: Thinks you shooting a movie in Boston. A lot of

689
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: them did Snow play ball or anything?

690
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: He played football? You football for a little while, But

691
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: I think I think he found something. He was a

692
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: little bit better.

693
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: He was pretty good at that. He was he was

694
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: pretty good at that. We'll be right back after this

695
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: quick break. All right, let's go back in the time

696
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: and look at where the game took place and go

697
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: over some pop culture. This game took place November thirtieth,

698
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Number one movie Cat in the

699
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Hat and that's Mike Myers.

700
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: Didn't see it. My kid likes it though.

701
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 9: Talk to Sits from Springfild, Massachusetts.

702
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: Right is he is?

703
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: Theodore Guys Stand up by Ludacris classic that was huge

704
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: for everyone Elf Bad, Santa Love. Actually we were all

705
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: popping in the boss at the box office. Chappelle's Show,

706
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was the best.

707
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: That was the best.

708
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: That was when that came out because that was the

709
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: first time you could buy DV. These seasons, I think.

710
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: All of them, all of them classic.

711
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh my, what was your favorite?

712
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: When he did uh Rick James, I would say that

713
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: was one of the funniest.

714
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: When he played the Crackhead. Was like.

715
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: Biggins when he played Prince and he gets.

716
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: Basketball pancakes game. What's his Day? Was great on that too.

717
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Charlie will Charlie Murphy, Charlie Murphy, biber was it those.

718
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: Bro like It's many you could? I mean, I think

719
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: that was the what was it?

720
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: The wife swap?

721
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: What is?

722
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: He came home and said, don't give me no back talk,

723
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 2: get up there. And I think that was the first

724
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: time where you really saw the edgy outside of like

725
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy and some of them, you

726
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: saw a comedian on skits go like outside, really really outside.

727
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: HBO because Comedy Central, because the lemon color was right

728
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: there too.

729
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they didn't they would get in there. They

730
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: would straddle. Yeah, they wouldn't go that.

731
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 7: They went.

732
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: He went, he went all the way over, he crossed.

733
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: I mean he he's like I just watched the skit

734
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: up of Jim Carrey doing Pee Wee Herman.

735
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: Though color they started it, they kind of started as

736
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: far as skits.

737
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they were hilarious.

738
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: Men on film, all that kind of ship the uh

739
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: the guy in jail like they they had a lot.

740
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Humpty the clown for Marlow. Don't play that.

741
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: We don't play that.

742
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we all used to. I used to

743
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: beat my little sister with the sock and the you

744
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if you have the sock. Oh

745
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: what was Willie Mack like in two thousand and three, man,

746
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: I think we were.

747
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: We were, like you said, I'm looking at this culture

748
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: and all this stuff right here. I was. I was

749
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: into the and of the Chappelle, the music, and we

750
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: were just I guess creating or are coming into this whole.

751
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: We we couldn't call it dynasty. We wasn't allowed because

752
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: that's not the mentality or what you know we were

753
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: able to do in that locker room. But just understanding

754
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: how good we were, and I remember, you know guys

755
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: playing like against Peyton Manny playing against Steve McNair playing, Yeah,

756
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: call MVPs like crazy. Some of the best, some of

757
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: the best players in football. Just so competitive. It was.

758
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: It was a real balance league. It was a lot

759
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: of competitive, tough football teams. It wasn't just like eight

760
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: really really good teams. It was like every week it

761
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: was a fight.

762
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, see that, That just tells me he was in

763
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the pocket. A lot of people would come in here

764
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: and they say, oh, you know I was doing he

765
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: was worried about like they were. Literally I try to

766
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: tell people when I was in it, in the whole

767
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: Patriot and when we were in that, that we're in

768
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: a pocket, like you didn't enjoy anything.

769
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: You were so.

770
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: Worried about, Like, yeah, I was there, you know what

771
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, We're so worried about the process of winning

772
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: and going out and like you enjoyed afterwards, but you

773
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: enjoyed for a day, but like, you know, you had

774
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: a lot of shit going on, but you know what

775
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd watch something here, but you're in a

776
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: pocket of like, all right, can we keep it going?

777
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: The teams were too good.

778
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: Teams are too good, too good, So even.

779
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 9: Here after one super Bowl, you were feeling that this

780
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 9: team is special over the course.

781
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: So after the first super Bowl we won, we didn't

782
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: even make the playoffs.

783
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: The next year. But then this year we.

784
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: Didn't make the playoffs because we we had that feeling,

785
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: like you said, we got comfortable.

786
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: We were like, oh, we won a super Bowl, this

787
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: is how it's gonna be.

788
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: We got the same team, we're gonna get more players

789
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: come in, we'll be back. And we end up missing

790
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: the playoff because we needed I think the Jets to

791
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: beat Green Bay or somebody to beat the Jets what

792
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: they should have and we were sitting around waiting on

793
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: the team to beat another team to get in, and

794
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: we didn't handle our own business, and we got complacent

795
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: and we thought because we won the way we won,

796
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: we beat the best team, one of the best teams ever,

797
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: Oh we'll be back easily. We even make the playoffs

798
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: the next year. So that was the eye opening and

799
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: that was something to tell us, hey, this isn't promised like.

800
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: We won it into two thousand and two. But the

801
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: Bucks was the Bucks? Yeah played the Raiders.

802
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: No, it was the Rams, wasn't it. They won ninety

803
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: nine and yeah, and.

804
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 3: It was the Bucks seasons. Yeah it's Warren and then Brooks.

805
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bucks when Gruden went over in the trade

806
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: first year from Raider.

807
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Like from that was not who we played against.

808
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: I know in the snowballs.

809
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: In snowball we played against. That's what I'm saying that

810
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: so much. A couple of days ago, Heat.

811
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: Wanted still fumble, not a fumble.

812
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: Bro. Now when you see that play happens, it's like

813
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: I never heard of the rule until they called it.

814
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: But after that I saw like almost every other week

815
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: then you saw the same call.

816
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: It was the right call. It's a stupid rule, but

817
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: that was the rule.

818
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: Hey, I was grabbing my helmet on my way out

819
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: to the field, that's all I know. I thought it

820
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: was a fumble. I didn't see.

821
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: It's kind of like in against in eighteen when we

822
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: had the we threw the pick, but there was off sides.

823
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see the flag. Guy came up to me

824
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: and say, you have good off She's up sitting there

825
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: throwing my helmet and then I saw that the flag.

826
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, we're back. It's like hey, it's like fuck you.

827
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 9: So this is Nick Saban National Championship l SU this year.

828
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 3: Is he going back? Is he going back?

829
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, not going back. Some of the rumors

830
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: are out there. He don't want to kids.

831
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

832
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good jobs. It's a wild time

833
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: in college football. Is he still on the board the college? Oh,

834
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: let me look, he might be, because I know he

835
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: was on the board. That's a good point.

836
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: I would say if they changed the rules, some of

837
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: the rules as far as it's transfer portal, and they

838
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: already tried, I think to.

839
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: Put like only one time you could do it now.

840
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. But but also the money. They also put like

841
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: a limit on the money per school right for that

842
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: you can offer for nil. So I think if there's

843
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: some type of balance amongst all the schools where you

844
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: can't outbid or say oh I got more money, I

845
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: can get more players, or whatever the case may be,

846
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: I think what he would consider it. I just think

847
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: he got out of control and he got tired of

848
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: dealing with it.

849
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: Like you guys said, no, I can see that. And

850
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: the jobs open this year are crazy penn stand and paying.

851
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: You see what they're paying. These coaches are getting seventy million,

852
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: fifty six million.

853
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: Dollars buyouts you don't have to coach anymore. Well, I

854
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: think coaches bio. It's only a million. I saw that.

855
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 2: What's up with our guy? A million?

856
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: That's it?

857
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's he got to he put it in there.

858
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: If he takes a job or something, he can there's that.

859
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: Does he have to go to Steven?

860
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: I think that was yeah.

861
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

862
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of like how it was set

863
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: up in the contract kind of it's like I might

864
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: not be I might not want to be here, yeah,

865
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: and then if I don't, it goes to Steven right, Yeah,

866
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: and they got to buy him out.

867
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: They're just buying people out.

868
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 3: It's insane. Brian Kelly fifty two to fifty four whatever

869
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: it was, Florida State. If they move on for him,

870
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: it's one hundred mines.

871
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh are they going to move on from Florida?

872
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: Man?

873
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: One hundred million?

874
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: Crazy? They can't move on the guys that are opened.

875
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 9: This your absolutely premiere man, premire.

876
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean it's premier jobs. It's premiere jobs. You Florida,

877
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: Florida State, be good in state.

878
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: Florida ain't been gooding fifteen years in a premier job.

879
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: No more. But I'm saying it's it is a premiere

880
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: because players want to go there and play.

881
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: The facilities, the this, the that.

882
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: Like players don't care about this, so they care about money.

883
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: I get it.

884
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: But they have money. You just gotta have. You got

885
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: to win. You got to get back to winning all

886
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: those schools.

887
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: What's up with that?

888
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 9: Sea like crazy?

889
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: We get we don't have no fifty five.

890
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: They're trying to figure it out. And it's a reason.

891
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: You gotta earn it. You can't just give it to anybody.

892
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: No, I know, but like they don't even they gotta

893
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: get all right, they got they We got to go

894
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: to fifty five.

895
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: We have to get some some def consistent wins.

896
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: Defense Rob Bryant, Rob is there?

897
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob is trying. They're trying. Lynn is there. Got it?

898
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: They you know, we.

899
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 2: Have the number one recruiting class or top top two

900
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: recruiting class in the country, so they are getting players.

901
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: So now it's starting to it's starting to turn. But

902
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: before we couldn't win the trenches.

903
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: Do you think it's the taxes?

904
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: No, I think I think they're like, man, I pay

905
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: the that's a take.

906
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't even think about that.

907
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: I don't even think these kids have entity set up

908
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: to know that they have to pay the taxes.

909
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Are we going to have high school symposiums? We need

910
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: we need to start educating. We need to have his

911
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: school classes on these kids in high school.

912
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: Because these agents slash N I L. I have an

913
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: N I L division which is ran by the agents.

914
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: Should be teaching them that and and and they should

915
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: be understanding because I think when the parents or family

916
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: members get the money, they start spending and they don't

917
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: know you got to pay taxes on that money. And

918
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: depending on where you are, you gotta you know, it's

919
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: it's it's it's different.

920
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: You have to do like the different states.

921
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: If you're see they're not getting paid pery, I think

922
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: they're whatever they're They're probably getting the majority of their

923
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: money in the state that they're.

924
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: But but you travel, We had to play every on

925
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: the road.

926
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: We had to pay tax, Yeah, because we were getting

927
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: paid per game. You know, I don't think they're getting

928
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: paid per game. I don't know how they I think

929
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: there is the all are off the field stuff was

930
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: always wherever your business was, and their business is all

931
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: going to be they're not. I mean, if you got

932
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: some smart little jokers they got a little escort and stuff.

933
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what if they have a house

934
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: and their families still have a house, like in Texas

935
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: or Vegas where there is no state tax or whatever,

936
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: you run everything through there. I know. I mean, that's

937
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: a whole lot.

938
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: But that's a whole lot. Blue hens become players.

939
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: Are getting paid.

940
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: They're getting paid.

941
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: High school, college, everybody's getting paid.

942
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: Crazy.

943
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: So I just think there's there's got to be a certain.

944
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I think that's why whatever. Our sports are kind of

945
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: losing a lot of the culture. The American it's ok man.

946
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Looking at basketball, we hadn't had American b MVP in

947
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: like eight years since Harden. You know, it was over

948
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: ten ten. You know, Baseball ain't none of I mean,

949
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: we have a couple of sprints. The black communities not

950
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: even represented in baseball anymore. It's all it's all like

951
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: the Latinos in the Japanese. There's like, no there's a couple,

952
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: there's no like the American player in football. Wait until

953
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: they start bringing in these Germans. They start bringing these Germans.

954
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: We played with a couple of them.

955
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: They're starting to come in.

956
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, man, I think I

957
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: think you're reaching.

958
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, twelve and four Colts, Tony Dungee. This was the

959
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 8: second year the Tony Dungee era. Tom Moore was the OC.

960
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: Tom Moore, that.

961
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 8: Guy's still doing it often some consultant for the Bucks insane.

962
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: And they're doing well.

963
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're balling his eighty six and still showing up.

964
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: I love that we had.

965
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 8: Dallas Clark was a rookie this year. Robert Mathis was

966
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 8: a ballers man. Oh my god. Second ranked offense, we

967
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 8: remember that, almost twenty eight points a game. Defense not

968
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 8: so hot, ranked twentieth, letting up almost twenty one a game.

969
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: Peyton Maning this was his com VP year. We talked

970
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: about that earlier.

971
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 8: A lot of Hall of famers on this team, and

972
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 8: Manning Edge, Marvin Harrison, Dwight Free and Tony Dungee and

973
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 8: Bill Pulley off should be on that lin.

974
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: That's a good team.

975
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: They had players they just wasn't they were defense was

976
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: really really good when they were ahead, which they were

977
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: a majority of the time, because they get after you.

978
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: It wasn't really physical, but they would get after you.

979
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: They're great pass rushers and they have some good dbs

980
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: and secondary guys.

981
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Was it always a little different when you had to

982
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: prepare for this team.

983
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, always, just because we talk about adjustments in game, halftime, sideline,

984
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: whatever it is. The sheriff Peyton Manning was probably one

985
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: of the best to ever do it. And he was

986
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: smart his He did his research, he did his preparation.

987
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: He knew he like you look at our side all

988
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: like decordinators and defensive he knew everybody. He knew what

989
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: they liked to run, he knew their tennessees, he knew

990
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: where they were good at, where they were weak at,

991
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: Like that's a true story. He would study coordinators and

992
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: defensive personnel guys just to understand, like what they liked

993
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: to do in certain situations, and it always came down

994
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: with them to the situational side of football. There's always adjustment.

995
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: So this is one of the teams that we couldn't

996
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: do the exact same thing every time.

997
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: We played in the dial every third down.

998
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: You had to switch it up, even we always had

999
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: And you can appreciate this because I know you guys

1000
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: did like two half, two halves, first half, second half

1001
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: of adjustments in different plays, because I remember when you

1002
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: guys played Atlanta in the Super Bowl, you had no

1003
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. When you guys played the Rams, you had

1004
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: a whole first half, first half, and then you had

1005
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: a second a second half. But you didn't need to

1006
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: switch it because they couldn't stop the first half. But

1007
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: that that was them first quarter. If you was doing something,

1008
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: he was going right to the side and switching it up.

1009
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: When you came back out, you may see the same

1010
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: formation or this or that, but it was like two

1011
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: or three different plays. Off of that debate you in.

1012
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: It was always a chess match with them.

1013
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Would you what was the best thing to confuse him?

1014
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: Well, Peyton used to always wait till like maybe six

1015
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: seconds before he snapped the ball because he wanted to

1016
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: see everything he wanted you. So that's when we really

1017
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: start disguising. So later you saw Baltimore doing it a lot.

1018
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: Remember when Ed Reid used to run down and they

1019
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: used to do all the movement. Well, it was because

1020
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: we started that with him, because we knew if we

1021
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: got in position and lined up with more than whatever

1022
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: seconds on the clock, he would change the play and

1023
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: then snap the ball and attack. You know our weakness,

1024
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: so we would always wait and hold off, which is

1025
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: going to play a factor until later. Why this is

1026
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: one of my favorite games because we used the play

1027
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: clock against them and it ended up going against him.

1028
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: It went you know, we kind of burned them with

1029
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: something he liked to do.

1030
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's jump on to the Patriots. That's a good

1031
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: segue like that.

1032
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: Stick around for that, folks.

1033
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 8: These are the fourteen and two New England Patriots, as

1034
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 8: we mentioned earlier, coming off a year where he missed

1035
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 8: the playoffs, won the Super Bowl the year before that

1036
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 8: be the greatest show turf, undefeated at home this year

1037
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 8: and notably starting the year Lawyer malloy released five days

1038
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 8: before the season started. That was a big story early on.

1039
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 8: And then brought in Rodney Harrison, which was huge. Started

1040
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 8: two and two and then one twelve straight eight to

1041
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 8: zero at home defense unreal, letting up fourteen point nine

1042
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 8: points a game league low. And then a couple Hall

1043
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 8: of famers on this roster, Richard seymour Ty. Law should

1044
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 8: be a lot more. But those are the two as

1045
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 8: of now.

1046
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the crazy system guys. System win. I mean I'd

1047
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: rather win and be called a system guy.

1048
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 3: Amen, It's all good. Amen, Kiss the rings.

1049
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: How did how did the team react to Lawyer malloy.

1050
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: It was tough. It was tough, captain, right, yeah, and

1051
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: he was our guy, and you know, I was especially

1052
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: close to Lawyer, and it was just like some things

1053
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: you don't understand. And Bill gave one of those famous

1054
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: speeches that you know, I'm gonna always do I'm not

1055
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: gonna always do what's best for end of visuals, but

1056
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to always do what's best for the team.

1057
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: And Lawyer was pretty much still in his right at

1058
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: his prime, so I don't you know, we didn't really

1059
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: see it coming until Rodney came in, and it was like, oh,

1060
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a swap like a swapout, you

1061
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And maybe he felt that Rodney

1062
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: brought a little bit more than Lawyer, but at the

1063
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: time we didn't see it. Lawyer was physical. Lawyer was

1064
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: all over the place. Lawyer played aggressive, you know, he

1065
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: played the run, he was he was good in the past,

1066
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: great communicated, great teammate, super physical. You know, he was

1067
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: a linebacker playing safety kind of like Rodney. But we

1068
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: didn't get it, you know. Yeah, But it ended up,

1069
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: of course working out, It worked out, It worked out.

1070
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: That was when that year started with Lawyer winning thirty

1071
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: one nothing.

1072
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: Against us, we went a craze blow and they kicked

1073
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: our ass and he was celebrating, yeah, with bloods as well.

1074
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: We got rid of blood so and he was doing.

1075
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: His Patriots celebration to us against us, and we were

1076
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: sitting over there like and then that's when a lot

1077
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: of heat came from the media and all that because

1078
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: we lost to the Bills, to the two guys we

1079
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: traded away crazy.

1080
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: Whatever the way to start, it worked out, it worked.

1081
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 8: Out, I think, so, oh my gosh, should hit this

1082
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 8: lead up real quick, all right. Coming into this was

1083
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 8: a Week thirteen matchup. Both teams entered nine and two.

1084
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 8: Pats were looking to get to ten and two for

1085
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 8: the first time in franchise history. Wild to think, and

1086
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 8: then coming into this one, Vander jek was hot.

1087
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 10: The kicker on the Colts did make thirty straight field goals,

1088
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 10: was on fire. And the Colts previously, if you'll remember,

1089
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 10: had been an AFC East team up until the two

1090
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 10: season believe Man went to the south right and went

1091
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 10: to the south when the Texans came in, So they

1092
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 10: were looking to sweep the AFC East this year.

1093
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: The culture kind of runing through our division, and uh.

1094
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 8: Notably with the Pats won four to five games leading

1095
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 8: up to this one. All five before the five had

1096
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 8: been one score game. So really a good team and

1097
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 8: learned how win those close games. Kind of we'll see

1098
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 8: what the Chiefs these days, you know when these overtime games,

1099
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 8: these close ones.

1100
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: How come you think we always did well in close games.

1101
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: Because we prepared for every situation, and I think guys

1102
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: didn't panic. We knew what to expect, and a lot

1103
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: of times when you see teams or players panic, it's

1104
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: because they didn't practice or they've never seen a situation

1105
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: that comes up in the game. With us, we've seen everything,

1106
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: and sometimes they practice be like man, we're doing all

1107
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: this and we're doing all this extra stuff. But it

1108
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: was always a rhyme and a reason why, and a

1109
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: lot of times those situations came up and we were like, oh,

1110
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: we practiced that like ten times. We're good, let's go yeah, right,

1111
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: like the Malcolm Butler thing and Seattle and they practiced

1112
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: that play so many times, and I'm sure there's like

1113
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: fit the other plays like that.

1114
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the next Super Bowl in Atlanta, were

1115
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: we installed like six two point plays and we needed

1116
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: like three and what happened usually yeah, you know you

1117
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: have two maybe three. We had like six and we

1118
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: needed to.

1119
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: Have two of them right and got them.

1120
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, any Ernie stories for those nuggets you guys ever get?

1121
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Do you have any Ernie because we didn't.

1122
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: We didn't know who the hell Ernie was for the longest.

1123
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 2: We didn't and we used to just see him, and

1124
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, we didn't know who Ernie was

1125
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: until like later it was like, oh, because Ernie never talked.

1126
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: He just come around and just hang out. He sit

1127
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: at practice, he observed, he watched. And then they started

1128
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: handing out like sheets like, hey, here's some TV copies

1129
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: of the calls that we heard or this or that

1130
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: Ernie got this. So we start hearing the name. It

1131
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: was like, all right, who's Ernie? We still didn't know

1132
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: who he was. We knew the name, we couldn't put

1133
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: the face with the name and then figure out who

1134
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: Ernie was.

1135
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: Ernie cards and the freaking Ernie cards.

1136
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 8: Willie, we love getting as many of the brain Trust

1137
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 8: guys on here to break it all down. You have

1138
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 8: any good room Cornel stories? We hadn't had Romeo on yet.

1139
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: But Romeo, Man, Romeo is my guy. Romeo. Interesting enough,

1140
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Romeo used to be the coach that would catch the

1141
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: punts that would give us the night off. You know

1142
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: when you know, when the coaches make a coach, you

1143
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 2: get to elect the coach to catch a punt and

1144
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: that will determine if you got the night off or

1145
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be in camp or whatever. Romeo

1146
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 2: manile mobile, and you would always come through and catch

1147
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: that punt.

1148
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: You'll never see a team jump with more joy than

1149
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: after one of those kind of.

1150
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, because it's always a lineman or somebody.

1151
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: Right, coach, coach that's usually not mobile.

1152
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, man, Romeo's my guy. Romeo was on the

1153
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: Bill Parcells staff when I came in. He was the

1154
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: D line coach. So Romeo along with Scar. You know,

1155
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: there's a couple. There's a couple of coaches that was

1156
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: there from before before ninety four all the way through.

1157
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: So I think Scar was there from eighty six.

1158
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Scar was there, Scar has been, Scar was

1159
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: I think Scar has the longest tenure out of all

1160
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: the coaches.

1161
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but the coaches except for Nazi Nance Nancy's

1162
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: it was a Scar and then Nazi Scar.

1163
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Scar was there when we got beat down by

1164
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 8: the Fridge the Super Bowl.

1165
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1166
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: He was that uop.

1167
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 9: And then he left the Colts and then he came back,

1168
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 9: came back in ninety one and then all the way.

1169
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: Scar has the most wins, probably than any any coach

1170
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: that's been there.

1171
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: Like, Scar is the best.

1172
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 2: Scar.

1173
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: I was stars Truck seeing him at your whole Fame

1174
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: thing in person.

1175
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: That was big because I hadn't seen him in a while.

1176
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 2: Scar is the man legends.

1177
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: I loved Coach Scarr. I told that story. Scar would

1178
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: always lift you up. Like I always tell everyone, you're

1179
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: always cool with other position coaches and even the if

1180
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: the position hates that coach, you know what I mean.

1181
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: But the coaches, there's a politic thing there is. But Scar.

1182
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: He also used to pump like he was like if

1183
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: he said something to you, it was like a big deal.

1184
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: Nobody and nobody fuck with Scar like. Scar was like

1185
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: the o G. Everybody knows like his resume.

1186
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: Except like.

1187
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: And Light used to drive him crazy crazy. He used

1188
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: to drive them crazy, but that's Light. He drove everybody crazy.

1189
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: I think he kept Scar young because Scar had to

1190
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: laugh at times about certain things. He used to have

1191
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: to you know, like hey, this.

1192
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: Fucking guy, I don't know. The coach stories are the best.

1193
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: He had like a demeanor about him, like a calmness

1194
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: about him. But when he coached, when he coached, and

1195
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: when he when he went in, he went in.

1196
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: And it's the same cars, different license plates. He used

1197
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: to say that a lot. But we were doing short yardage,

1198
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: same cars, different license places. Week.

1199
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: Boys, everybody just looking. It's like, yeah, you're right.

1200
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 9: So it's like your position coaches like your dad, and

1201
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 9: then the other person coaches like uncles.

1202
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, unless you got a young coach, then they're

1203
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: like or brother, yeah, like or it could be little bro.

1204
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: It could be little brother. Nowadays these young coaches little brother.

1205
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1206
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: Well Mike, Yeah, when when when Josh and those guys

1207
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: came in, Man, they were holding the cards and scout team,

1208
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: they were holding up this card yeah, and day ball

1209
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: and running and running and running, you know, running the

1210
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: tape you know at the front. I mean I saw

1211
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: flow like that. Yeah, you saw I saw flow like

1212
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: that and stuff taking us to certain Yeah.

1213
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: They make those guys work.

1214
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: They work, but they know every cross freedom and they

1215
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: could yeah, because because Matt Patricia and and like uh

1216
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: Josh and Mangeenie, like all those guys were all coached

1217
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball.

1218
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: Across Creed.

1219
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: What was the rivalry to this point with the Colts?

1220
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Was it there yet?

1221
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was there when I think when Peyton came

1222
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: in as a rookie. I mean, you know, he didn't

1223
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: have a great rookie season, but that's when the Colts

1224
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: started just adding talent and it became like, hey, this

1225
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: is a this is a good team. Harball was there

1226
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: at first, and then they bought in. They bought in Peyton,

1227
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: they bought in Harrison, Marshall, Falk was there, you know,

1228
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: Pollard was there, Reggie Wayne like, they had talent. Bro Like,

1229
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: on paper, one of the best teams ever, I would

1230
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: say offensively we've ever played against. It was just tough.

1231
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: And then when you got a quarterback like that that's

1232
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: super smart. Yeah, and he's a student of the game.

1233
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: It's it became our instant rivalry in a division. And

1234
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: then you said they switched, but they were still it

1235
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 2: seemed like we still played him every year regardless.

1236
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: The top of the division.

1237
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 8: Just a little context to that played him twice in

1238
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 8: O one, Brady won both of them, so this was

1239
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 8: the first meeting since O one. So Brady's against Payton

1240
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 8: at this point of the game, we're doing.

1241
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: Billy Mack might get mad at you for saying Brady

1242
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: between the Pats.

1243
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: We played that it was Peyton versus Brady.

1244
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: You know I was in the last one. Yeah, I

1245
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 1: was in the fourth and two game. Remember when cave

1246
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: fez that was the first down. I don't know, I

1247
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: don't think it was.

1248
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: Do you know why you went for it?

1249
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Because we weren't stopping him? There you go, and that

1250
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: would have been the game.

1251
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: And Bill said that he had to put the ball

1252
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: on the side of the ball that was that that

1253
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: gave him the best chance to win.

1254
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: And it was pre analytics.

1255
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: Yep, it was you guys, because they had drove down.

1256
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: I was watching. I was in Cleveland at the time.

1257
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: I can't say I was rooted for you guys, but

1258
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 2: I was hot because you know I should have been there.

1259
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: But anyway, Peyton had two minute drives and went down

1260
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: to score back to back, I think, and Bill was like, shit,

1261
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: we can't stop him, so I'm not goinna give him

1262
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: the ball again. I believe in you guys. It was close,

1263
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: man like, talk about a game of benches.

1264
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: Of course win scored right when they got it. Well

1265
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: we lost. I think it was three scores in a row.

1266
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like the but that would have been

1267
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: that was the third one.

1268
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the third one. It's crazy.

1269
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: Shout out k falk though with a beast k THz.

1270
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break.

1271
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 8: Yes, we pop in this game real quick, starting this

1272
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 8: thing off. Patriots get out hot, seventeen point lead, forty

1273
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 8: one yard Vinitary for field goal, manning strip sack fummal

1274
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 8: Vrabel with the strip sack leads to a Mike Cloud TD.

1275
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 8: Then you had a Ward touchdown up seventeen to nothing.

1276
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 8: Then he get a Vrabel running into the punter, extends

1277
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 8: that drive a little bit. Let's Indy get on the board.

1278
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 8: Let's sem to get on the board. Then they chip

1279
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 8: it away at it a little bit, get it up

1280
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 8: to fourteen to ten. But right before the half, Bethel

1281
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 8: freaking Johnson, Brothel, what a play in.

1282
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 9: The half that was like a last That was a

1283
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 9: touchdown with like ten seconds yea in the second.

1284
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: Hal Yeah, he ran me in zone with no time

1285
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: on m'clock.

1286
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's when we were like, oh, we're.

1287
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 8: Good with the ninety two yard kick return, not so good, unbelievable.

1288
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: You know, you get a lead like that, and because

1289
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: of our defense, we just was like, oh, we're straight.

1290
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: So you went into halftime confident.

1291
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: Feeling good at least, not comfortable. Yeah, Bill never let

1292
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: you feel comfortable. Never, And as a team, we were

1293
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: never allowed to just oh, the game is over because

1294
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: we knew who was on the other side of the ball.

1295
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 8: And then uh, we come out of come out of

1296
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 8: the half, eleven plays, sixty one yard drive, eat up

1297
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 8: some clock, move down the field nicely, extend that thing

1298
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 8: to thirty one to ten, another Mike Cloud TD, and

1299
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 8: then uh.

1300
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: Now I'm feeling a little bit.

1301
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, We're like, oh, twenty one points, we're good, we're

1302
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 8: good money here, and then we start trading picks. Brady

1303
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 8: pick leads right to a touchdown. We're thirty one seventeen.

1304
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 8: I was a Reggie Wainter. Then another Brady pick Man

1305
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 8: right at the end of the half. Sudden change, big

1306
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 8: sudden sudden change, right away TD to Marvin Harrison. Now

1307
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 8: it was certainly come what this thing is thirty one

1308
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 8: twenty four. I don't love that. And then early in

1309
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 8: the fourth uh, and he puts together a nice little

1310
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 8: ten play drive ties this thing upward thirty one thirty

1311
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 8: one right now.

1312
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: What twenty one points in like six minutes? Yes, insane?

1313
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 3: So what are you thinking after that?

1314
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, this is what type of game we thought

1315
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: it would be. We didn't, you know, like I said,

1316
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: that was like a mirage going in a halftime or

1317
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 2: going up, like I remember everybody saying it ain't over,

1318
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: there's two halves the game, zero zero, all those different

1319
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: things that we always say when we're we're in the hut,

1320
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: we're in the locker room. And when they started to

1321
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: make this push, we were like, Okay, this is what

1322
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: we figured the game would be. You know, our expectations

1323
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: that it was going to be a close game anyway

1324
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: when we started. So you know, our our conversations were,

1325
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: we got it, We're gonna have to win this thing

1326
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, are not gonna stop, whatever the

1327
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: case may be. So us being up like we were

1328
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: was a little we were a little surprised, but we

1329
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: wasn't like content and knew that, hey, it's a rap no,

1330
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: we knew it was far from over.

1331
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 8: Thankfully, after that we got a huge another one Bethel

1332
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 8: Johnson again, that sixty seven yack did starts us off

1333
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 8: of the nd thirty uh quick score. Tom finds Deon

1334
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 8: branch for thirteen yards only scored like eight and a

1335
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 8: half minutes left, so a lot of time left. We

1336
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 8: took the lead thirty at thirty one. Deon whips that

1337
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 8: one of the greatest TV celebrations you'll see in.

1338
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: A long time.

1339
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: Underrated people. I think Dion, I think dis Dance back

1340
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: in yeaar was that trilogy.

1341
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: You know, a little.

1342
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: Nerdy, a little dirty, you know nerdy, you got a couple,

1343
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: he got a couple of nicknames. So it kind of

1344
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: lootes that he that he used to do some extra

1345
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: curriculum for a little bit of change.

1346
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 5: I like that.

1347
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 3: I like that. I don't want to put him out there.

1348
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: We talk about it. Lady dirty Phil Simms on the teleguys.

1349
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: Oh that was God. The dance was getting dirty on

1350
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: the shutout right, Oh man, always call everyone dirty.

1351
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: We were dirty dirty.

1352
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 8: Peyton and them come back second to last drive that

1353
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 8: they'd have it. Big Sack by Willie Mack and ravees

1354
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 8: on that drive, but they convert end up getting a

1355
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 8: field goal out of this thirty eight to thirty four.

1356
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 8: That leads us to what would be the final score

1357
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 8: of the game.

1358
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 9: Holding to it, holding them to a field goal at

1359
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 9: that point, with that probably a winyah.

1360
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because we couldn't stop them. Obviously if you

1361
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: look at you know, the drives they had and how

1362
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: they were moving the ball. We were struggling. Why they

1363
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: made adjustments and you know it's just a lot of

1364
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: times when we played them it was going to be

1365
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: close like this. But remember I said earlier, like with Peyton,

1366
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: there was like sideline after plays, there were quarter adjustments.

1367
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: That's halftime adjustments, you see.

1368
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: You see the halftime adjustments, and you know we were

1369
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: making adjustments. They just had an answer and they were

1370
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: just making plays. And then when you turn the football over,

1371
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: you know which we turned the football over. You can't

1372
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: give like a hot hand the ball right back. And

1373
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: you know they capitalized. They played well.

1374
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: So the Pats go down, they score, they need a touchdown.

1375
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: Twin's what's on the clock. Two fifty seven left. Tom

1376
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: almost threw another pick there, Yeah, Ken Walter points it.

1377
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: Away didn't burn a lot of clock.

1378
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 8: With three minutes off, they take over the New England

1379
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 8: forty eight after the punt two fifty seven.

1380
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: Oh they punted, Yeah, yeah, so two fifty seven.

1381
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: Get it down with forty seconds left and they're down

1382
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: in New England too. They're moving moving the middle.

1383
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: Are we at there?

1384
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 3: Like?

1385
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're gonna bend. We're not gonna break,

1386
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: no big plays. Let's get them down in the red area.

1387
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: Try to get off the field.

1388
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: We didn't want to give them down in the red area.

1389
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: They were just moving the ball and a little caveat

1390
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 2: before we get into them moving the ball into the

1391
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: red zone. All week, you know how Bill has these

1392
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: situational footballs and these nuggets. All week we watched tape.

1393
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: We would show that that if a player was hurt

1394
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 2: or down that Peyton would and you try to run

1395
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: a player on or player off. He had a call

1396
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: where he get to the line, quick snap, get you

1397
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: a twelve minute on the field, get the penalty, get

1398
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: the extra yards. So we knew that, and you could

1399
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: hear Bill all week long telling the defense, listen, if

1400
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: you have an injury or if there's something wrong, don't

1401
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: try to run off the field because he's going to

1402
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: run up to the line. He's gonna either catch you

1403
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: trying to run off, and I's trying to run a

1404
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: guy on and we're not gonna be set and ready

1405
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: to go, and we're gonna get hit with a big play.

1406
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: At the time, here's maybe responsible for another rule change.

1407
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: At the time, they didn't have that you lose a

1408
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: time out or you had to lose a timeout or

1409
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: the rule the rule that they have in place now.

1410
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: So an injury was an injury timeout, right.

1411
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: They didn't have that you get four feitted time out

1412
01:07:58,720 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: if you get hurt.

1413
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. They didn't have that at the time. So

1414
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: of course we knew that. So playing against him, we

1415
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 2: watched I don't know how many times there he goes again.

1416
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: You can hear bill. There he is again, look at him. Boom,

1417
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: penaly penaly. So in my head when I got when

1418
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: I had the injury, I started to try to limp

1419
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 2: off and I heard his I heard his voice saying,

1420
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 2: don't try to run off, just get down.

1421
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 3: So you get down.

1422
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: Where were you?

1423
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: Where are you guys right now?

1424
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 3: Where were minute nine left?

1425
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: So they had just got a first down, right.

1426
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're on the eighteen. It looks like

1427
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: they just.

1428
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: Got a first down and I tried to do some

1429
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: type of moving my my leg. My leg got caught.

1430
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,919
Speaker 2: Wasn't bad, but my leg got caught, and I was like, geez,

1431
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: so I did. I did. I was going to try

1432
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: to go off, but I went down because I remember

1433
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: Bill saying it. So for all those who always say

1434
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: he faked the injury. One thing about players that had injuries,

1435
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: you never want to fake an injury because it's bad luck,

1436
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: especially if you've dealt with injuries, back surgeries like we've had,

1437
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: whatever it is, whatever type of injuries it is, you

1438
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: don't ever want to fake it, but it happens. But

1439
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: on this particular one, I didn't because when I went off,

1440
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,879
Speaker 2: it was first down. I don't think I came back.

1441
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: On until until the last till last player.

1442
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: Fourth down or third down. I believe it was fourth

1443
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: fourth down. So if I was faking injury, I would

1444
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: have came right back in the next play. There was

1445
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: no penalty towards it, Like they didn't say you had

1446
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 2: to stay out.

1447
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: So then you guys, we called time out. We were

1448
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: able to get our substitutions in.

1449
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: Well, the injury, they called time out automatic. Yeah, so

1450
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: we didn't have to call we didn't have to waste one.

1451
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: We didn't have to waste one. But we also we

1452
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: got you get time to adjust readjust.

1453
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 3: And they were on the move like he was moving

1454
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: the ball and you know him, he likes minimum down

1455
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 3: to the nine, which is crazy.

1456
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: Willy.

1457
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 8: One's one thing about that with with an injury and

1458
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 8: playing on that were you playing in basketball shoes?

1459
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: Like was it like playing on that oil?

1460
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? That old turf was terrible. It was like we

1461
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: just had the small nubs on the turf shoe, so

1462
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: it was like a tennis shoe with the small nubs.

1463
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 2: Remember sometimes like that those nubs will get sticky, Yeah,

1464
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: on their turf, real sticky.

1465
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't I don't think itched up.

1466
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that was the new field.

1467
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: That was the old one.

1468
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was bad carpet.

1469
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 3: I feel like get jumps though, probably get a great jump.

1470
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, it was it was tough. Old You

1471
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: get stopping, the stopping and the sometime it would grab. Yeah,

1472
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: you know it was good. You know it was a

1473
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: fast turf, but it so.

1474
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: When I was young, I used to like turf because

1475
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: you could cheat cuts, you know what I mean. You

1476
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: didn't have to like for receivers. You could like run

1477
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: and like you could cut off the inside foot. Remember,

1478
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: Bill was like it's raining cut off the outside side party,

1479
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like you, you have

1480
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: to be fundamentally sound on long guyness.

1481
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get you gotta you gotta think about it.

1482
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,839
Speaker 8: So that takes us to the final goal line stand,

1483
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 8: the absolute piece. There resist thoughts of this game. We're

1484
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 8: at the two forty seconds left, first and goal. Edgard

1485
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 8: and James right tackle one yard Teddy Brusky Mike rib

1486
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 8: will make the tackle. Edgard and James up the middle

1487
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 8: for no game, Bruski and Rodney in the middle. Then

1488
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 8: he calls the time out. Next Peyton goes for the

1489
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 8: back corner. Fade to who is the guy Aaron Moorehead,

1490
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 8: we're going air, We're going morehead for a guy to have.

1491
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: It play matchups. It was all about that. He was

1492
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: all about who he thought was the matchup. Marvin Harrison

1493
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 2: though he's freaking I know, but he with Peyton, he

1494
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: made everybody fucking good.

1495
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1496
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 8: And then fourth and goal from the one fourteen seconds left.

1497
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 8: This is the game right here? Will he second?

1498
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: It was just a normal like goal line, o line,

1499
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: whatever to call whatever the coverage was. But remember I

1500
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: talked earlier about adjustments, and Peyton liked to wake till

1501
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: the clock runs all the way down before he switches

1502
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: to play. So I was always the end guy, the linebacker.

1503
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: The linebacker, as you know, is never in coverage on

1504
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: our defense. We would never be in coverage or drop.

1505
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: We was always the end guy, contain guy coming off

1506
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: the edge to rush. So they had, I think a

1507
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: slot over to me on my side. So I stood

1508
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: up and I turned my back like I was in

1509
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: coverage to Peyton, and he saw me, and you see

1510
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: him right away. It's like, I don't know, twelve seconds,

1511
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. He does the audible, he

1512
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: does the he does what we know Peyton does, and

1513
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 2: he moves Edgrin from this side to my side. Because

1514
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: it's a soft edge. The the tackle is inside. I

1515
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: was the outside guy. So what they were going to

1516
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: do is they was going to crash down on the

1517
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: end and they have a soft edge and Edron was

1518
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 2: just going to run it in. They were gonna run

1519
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: me off with the receiver. But I was never in coverage.

1520
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 2: I was disguising. So I waited all the way until

1521
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: the clock got down in like three or four seconds

1522
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,879
Speaker 2: where he couldn't change the play back, and I turned

1523
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: back in. If you see it on tape or you

1524
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: see the game, I turned back in and I just

1525
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: hauled ass off the edge because I was I was

1526
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: never dropping. I was just disguising. But it forced him

1527
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: to see that. It's like, oh, I got him, there's

1528
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: nobody on the edge. We'll seal the edge, easy walk

1529
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: in touchdown for Edron with me and Ted. Washington made

1530
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: the play.

1531
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 3: He saw man, got in, He.

1532
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: Swimmed and got in. He saw me. He tried to

1533
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: go more inside, but he couldn't because big Ted was

1534
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: in there. And we pretty much tricked, like one of

1535
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: the best ever to make those adjustments and audibles into

1536
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 2: calling a play that we wanted him to call.

1537
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: Where did this guy's come from? Was that just gaming

1538
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 3: in the moment?

1539
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: We always did. It's always about the sky in the

1540
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: game and just moving around. We were always about disguising,

1541
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: especially when we played Peyton, because you could not let

1542
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 2: him see what you're in. Coverages are nothing. You couldn't

1543
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: just line up in what you're in and give him

1544
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 2: the whole entire play clock to look, because he would

1545
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: change the play and he would go at you know

1546
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: where he needed to be. Like you said, why morehead, Well,

1547
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: at that time that was probably that was probably where

1548
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: the advantage was for him. So we when we played them,

1549
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: and we were like the first to start doing this

1550
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: against them, and like I was telling Jewels, like later

1551
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: you started to see Baltimore how ed Ree would come

1552
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: all into the formation and run out last second. All

1553
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: that was because of the we did it, because we

1554
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: knew we couldn't let him see what we were in.

1555
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 9: So you're in that moment you do that little disguise,

1556
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 9: he moves Edwin James over, You're.

1557
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 3: Like, I fucking got him.

1558
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: I was like, we got him. See like right here,

1559
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,440
Speaker 2: you think I'm in coverage, but you see the cornerback

1560
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: up there right there. So if you see an outside

1561
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: guy like me standing up and I'm pretty much walked

1562
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: out to the slot because we played a lot of.

1563
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 1: Cover two, cover seven right there, Yeah, you double the slot.

1564
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: He gets inside, you get downside.

1565
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: Like we would funnel him right, I'll take inside. He

1566
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: take outside what we call a funnel one one funnel

1567
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. But I would never

1568
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: The thing is, I would never cover a Reggie Wayne

1569
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: or Marvin Harrison one on one. Ever, we would do

1570
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: that with tight end and back.

1571
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: So he was thinking, he's thinking, he was.

1572
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: He's thinking by my stance and how I'm up, that

1573
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: we're funneling. Probably that receiver I got inside and who

1574
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: was a tie. Maybe he's got outside of whoever that

1575
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: is on the slot. He's got outside. But I never

1576
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: had coverage. It's just little things like that. You had

1577
01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 2: to do against Peyton because you have to because if

1578
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 2: you don't, the scores like it is and he can

1579
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: run off thirty points, twenty eight points like that.

1580
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 9: Is there anything better as like a collective defensive unit

1581
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 9: than a goal line stand like that?

1582
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: Four downs?

1583
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you don't want to be it's not ideal.

1584
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: It's I'm not gonna lie, it's not ideal to be

1585
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: down there. You want a good team, offensive team, you

1586
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: know you if you're keeping teams out of the red zone,

1587
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:32,520
Speaker 2: that's probably the best because it's it's it's it shrinks everything.

1588
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: It's tough down there. Team scheme really well. I'll watched

1589
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: these guys scheme, these rub routes and all the stuff

1590
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: that you can do down there. It's just tough. It's

1591
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: tough for defense. It's so much. You gotta prepare, you

1592
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: gotta think quick, you gotta think quick, and you gotta

1593
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: for goal line. You're taking more of your skill guys

1594
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: out and you're putting bigger guys in for the run

1595
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: and the physical part of it. You know. So if

1596
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 2: you got guys on offense that are versatile tight ends

1597
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: that can run routes, you put big guys in, now

1598
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: you got them covering them. You got smaller guys covering them.

1599
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: And then if you bring the big guys in, now

1600
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: you got a mismatch because you got athletic guys against

1601
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: big guys. You bring little guys in, you bring them

1602
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 2: in the block, and now you can run the ball

1603
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: at them. So it just it's always a game of

1604
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 2: you know, like like like chess and like adjustments and personnel,

1605
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: and when you got guys that can do so much,

1606
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to sub and think you're going to

1607
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: get one particular play because there's so much that can

1608
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: come off of it. But nah, goal line four plays

1609
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: in the goal line. That's not idea, not at all.

1610
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to do that.

1611
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, but afterwards it's got to feel Yeah, I.

1612
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 2: Mean yeah, when you come out on top. But how

1613
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: many times does that happen?

1614
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 9: Hey' super Bowl fifty forty nine.

1615
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to be on the right end

1616
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: of it.

1617
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: You got to be on the right end of it. Yeah. Yeah,

1618
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 3: and you get that victory celebration.

1619
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense against them wasn't happy.

1620
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: They wasn't celebrating running up and down fil Man. They

1621
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: should have done ran the touch push here. Oh God,

1622
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: really would have stopped that too.

1623
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have a problem with it, man,

1624
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: Like I think when you have where you designed something,

1625
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: and you create something, team's got to figure out how

1626
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: to stop it.

1627
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: She would be floated and put the guy lying down?

1628
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: What are we doing the doorstopper.

1629
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: I didn't get that.

1630
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: Hey, buddy, you got a great job. This week, we're

1631
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna lie you down there. There's gonna be these guys

1632
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: trying to probably break your ribs.

1633
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, I don't have a problem with it.

1634
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's crying about it. How do you appreciate it?

1635
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 2: How do you do this?

1636
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: They got asiate it better. They they can't call it

1637
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: if you're gonna let them that forward progress one what

1638
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: they call the push pulled it from them right that

1639
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,879
Speaker 1: that was a fumble, And then there's been a couple.

1640
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: That's a fumble, right you gotta and there's been a.

1641
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: Off side by the guards that they haven't been able

1642
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: to see. So this is looking like the league's probably

1643
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna come into it because it's too hard

1644
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,520
Speaker 1: to officiate.

1645
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 9: A legal formation too. Guys are too high up false starts.

1646
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: You probably won't be able to touch the guy from

1647
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: the back.

1648
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: But now now, now is it? Now? Is it?

1649
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 3: You like that?

1650
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: Only right? You like touching guys from the back. But

1651
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, like if it's been stopped,

1652
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: it's not like it's it's a it's one hundred percent

1653
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 2: teams have stopped it.

1654
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: It's probably like ninety percent.

1655
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 2: Though it's close.

1656
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 4: Like you said, get in that position, don't get I

1657
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 4: mean like, don't get like I got to win first

1658
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 4: and second down.

1659
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: You gotta win first and second down.

1660
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: And that's what I said that like two years ago

1661
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: on one of the shows, they were like, what do

1662
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: you need. It was like, don't get in third and short.

1663
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 2: Or fourth and super short. Yeah, because they're going to

1664
01:19:58,800 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: run it all right.

1665
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was about this.

1666
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 8: Patris won this thing thirty eight thirty four. They would

1667
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 8: not lose again the rest of the season. Really, they

1668
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 8: would go on to win.

1669
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1670
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 8: I finished fourteen to two, then ran through the playoffs,

1671
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 8: met Indy again in the AFC Championship game. We remember

1672
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 8: that one. Tyler picked off Peyton Manning about thirty times. Yeh,

1673
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 8: twenty four to fourteen. We win that one.

1674
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 9: Going to the Super Bowl because of this game.

1675
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: Because of this game.

1676
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: That was the big implication that we mentioned. The winner

1677
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 2: of that game would have had home field throughout because

1678
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: we both had the same record, and we went on

1679
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: to keep winning. They didn't win as many games as

1680
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: we did at the end, but this gave us home

1681
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: field throughout, which.

1682
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 3: Is huge, which is huge massive.

1683
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 8: Going to beat the Panthers in Super Bowl thirty eight,

1684
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 8: thirty two to twenty nine, second Super Bowl in three years,

1685
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 8: then they go on again repeat back to back. Baby

1686
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 8: cover a lethal weapon type stuff. Super Bowl thirty nine

1687
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 8: versus Philly twenty one, twenty four to twenty one.

1688
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 3: Pardon me.

1689
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 8: Then six Peyton Manning would finally get over the hump,

1690
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 8: and I remember they would beat Resis.

1691
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: Crossman in the Bear NFC championship game.

1692
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: That was they were down. You guys were up like

1693
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: twenty one, six or seven.

1694
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to talk about that one.

1695
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 2: That was crazy in Miami, right, rainy game?

1696
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 3: Yep, down there. Dongee Vers called, well, yeah, the championship

1697
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 3: game was the super Bowl. Then Rex Christman the Bears.

1698
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 2: I was going to say, like, I don't, I don't

1699
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: know who who picked Rex for that to win the

1700
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: super Bowl. They had a good deep great yeah, but

1701
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who picked Rex. Like I

1702
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: was watching, I was just like, I don't think he

1703
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: has a shot. No, you gotta no.

1704
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: I know.

1705
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: That was exciting. That was it.

1706
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 3: That was it right right off the kickoff.

1707
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: That could have been another one.

1708
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1709
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: We always you always have those. I think I think

1710
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 1: about the losses where you think about the wins.

1711
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: You do, but you have to win a lot in

1712
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 2: order for that. In order for that, you have to

1713
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: win a lot.

1714
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 3: Wow, should we score this thing?

1715
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's score it. Name it we We came up

1716
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: with some names. Willie if you have a name that

1717
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: you call it by, we can go by that. But

1718
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: this is what we came up with. The goal line

1719
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: stand game, the Longest Yard, which is kind of maybe

1720
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: taken by that Super Bowl in the movie, and then

1721
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: in the movie the One Short Game, the Willie McGinnis game.

1722
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: Not today in the.

1723
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: R c A, I like, not today in the RCA.

1724
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 8: Not today in the r They were pumping that noise

1725
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 8: in there.

1726
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: They say that. I didn't even think about it until

1727
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 2: they started telling us.

1728
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: That it's always loud in domes, though not all I.

1729
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: Remember playing De Troit wasn't loud. They were never Thanksgiving.

1730
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: When you're playing their Thanksgiving is festive as loud. It

1731
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: was never like really loud.

1732
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: We're like, it wasn't Indie versus Patriots. I remember we

1733
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: went down to New Orleans once in that place got

1734
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: play rocking and they had like the Brothers and ship

1735
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 1: in there. It was fucking on. They beat the funk

1736
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: out of us too. They won Super Bowl. You said,

1737
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: some dude, it was. It was some of the coolest

1738
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: shit I've never been down there.

1739
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: At the time.

1740
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's score the game. Is this the greatest

1741
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: game of all time? Let's score it. Just remember decimals

1742
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: are encouraged in the scoring stakes, Willie Mack zero to

1743
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: ten decimals encouraged the stakes of this regular season game

1744
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: that had a lot of playoff implication game, but regular

1745
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: season game.

1746
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give it a seven.

1747
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: It's a good integrity score.

1748
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I didn't. I didn't. We didn't really know

1749
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 2: until we actually got, you know, to that point where

1750
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: it made all the difference. We still had a lot

1751
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 2: of football left.

1752
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with a six point eight.

1753
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: I got a six point one one, same region that

1754
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 3: six point five.

1755
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: Nice.

1756
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: Nice, We're all close.

1757
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: Star power of this game, a lot of stars in

1758
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: this game. There's some Hall of Famer.

1759
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 3: Yea they have.

1760
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: They got a lot more Hall of.

1761
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Famers, a lot to be fair.

1762
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 9: Bill and Tom will be in soon, so add two

1763
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:59,440
Speaker 9: more of the Patriots.

1764
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: But then Rodney could possibly we got some guys that

1765
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: could possibly Adam vin Ry he should get.

1766
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be close. I'll give that a ten. Hell

1767
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: if you got five and five on each side.

1768
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: And coaches.

1769
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 2: Two off in quarterbacks and owner, yeah crafty, Yeah, I

1770
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: mean it's a nine to two.

1771
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of like I mean I grew up

1772
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: watching these. This was like, this was the cream of

1773
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: the crop. This was two point nine, always the biggest

1774
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: regular season measuring stick game of who was going to

1775
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: be the AFC that year. That's what I always think.

1776
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: The gameplay of the game, great game. Oh fun to watch, defense,

1777
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: goal line, stan let's turnovers, special teams. Everyone fucking had

1778
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: a contribution in this game. Yeah, what's the game playzer

1779
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: a tenestimal, give it a nine nine. I'll go with

1780
01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 1: the eight point seven for Gronk. He hates the go

1781
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: at an eight point four. Know why because you guys

1782
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: like there was a hatred for the Colts. It was,

1783
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: and we didn't even play him like that as much

1784
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: when Peyton left, No, not as much. But they had

1785
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and they were still good football.

1786
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 3: They still were good. He took over the head, they.

1787
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Were really good.

1788
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: They rob might hate him more than anybody. Yeah, they really.

1789
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 9: They don't think they ever lost to him either, I

1790
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 9: don't think so.

1791
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1792
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I at eight point one, nice at eight point four.

1793
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 8: So we're all in the same region. Look, we're scoring

1794
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 8: like pros today.

1795
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: The name of the game, we grade the name of

1796
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the game. The not today in the RCA game like that.

1797
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 3: It's a good name. What is the name of the game.

1798
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: I'll get out of eight point seven?

1799
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 3: Eight point seven, I'll go with cross shout out, Rob,

1800
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 3: I'm going.

1801
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: To go with a eight point five shout out too.

1802
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: There it is at eight point zero. I had a

1803
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 3: shout out you.

1804
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh what is it? What does it all come out to?

1805
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 9: It's an eight point zero one.

1806
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: That's a big that's a great score for regular season,

1807
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: regular season.

1808
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 3: So that puts us.

1809
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 9: At our brand new It's tied for fifty first with

1810
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 9: the twenty twelve AFC Championship game Ravens versus Patriots. It's

1811
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,759
Speaker 9: just ahead of VERITEC versus a Rod Red Sox Yankees

1812
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 9: Brawl two thousand and four, and just below Super Bowl

1813
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 9: fifty three Patriots versus Rams. So it's a little tweeter game.

1814
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: For a lot. Man, it's a lot going on here.

1815
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 3: Go Yeah, what else do we have? What's you want

1816
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 3: to see?

1817
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: The top? Oh? Sorry?

1818
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: The miracle in Miami? Is that the flutie? Yeahlte hail

1819
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: Mary four? Yeah that was a flute, right, we have

1820
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: flute on that?

1821
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, flute's crazy.

1822
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: I remember I remember being in I remember being in

1823
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 1: the training room and then we had like a huge rainstorm,

1824
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: and like it's in the off season and there was

1825
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: a flood in like one of the areas in Boston

1826
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: and the people in the news are covering it, and

1827
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Flutie just starts floating buying a

1828
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: canoe on the street.

1829
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 3: He's like, what's up guy?

1830
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: We're all the like, is that fluty a.

1831
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: Canoeing? Fucking as wild?

1832
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: Bro?

1833
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: Ma'am all right? That was great? Our last question. We

1834
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: always ask our guest our last question.

1835
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: What does football mean? Do you?

1836
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: Willie mack uh football? From the time I started plaanning

1837
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 2: now it means a lot. It's life, it's foundation. I

1838
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: think it teaches life skills. A lot of people use

1839
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 2: football as a carrot we do with the youth to

1840
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: be accountable, to be responsible, to put team over individualism,

1841
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 2: to teach you how that everybody serves a role in

1842
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 2: life or in a position, whether it's business, sports, or

1843
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. Unless you're playing an individual sport,

1844
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: it also teaches you that you know, sometimes you're going

1845
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: to win, sometimes you're going to lose. I don't know

1846
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: anyone that's undefeated ever and you have to sacrifice. I

1847
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 2: got daughters playing sports. I teach them now. Sometimes you

1848
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: can't go hang out and do this. You can't go

1849
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: do this. Those girls aren't They don't have to get

1850
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 2: ready for a playoff game. They don't have to get

1851
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: ready for a big time game. You need your rest,

1852
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 2: You got to eat better, you got to get your fluids.

1853
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 2: There's so many things that goes into sports. It brings

1854
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: a lot of backgrounds together, a lot of different cultes together.

1855
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: People you may meet and interact and play with and

1856
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: sweat with and work hard with that come from so

1857
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: many different places. You learn about that you probably would

1858
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 2: have never have in life if you didn't play a sport.

1859
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: To be in the same locker room together and to

1860
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: be around them. You spend more time with athletes more

1861
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: than you do sometimes your family. When you're in the

1862
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: thick of it, and you learn a lot. You learn

1863
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,440
Speaker 2: about yourself, you learn about other people. I think sports

1864
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:03,839
Speaker 2: football brings the world together.

1865
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: I love that. That's the answer we've gotten. That's the

1866
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: best answer we've gotten.

1867
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: There's a lot, man, there's a lot. It's deep, you know,

1868
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: I think it's super deep.

1869
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Well, you're super deep. Willie Mack. I got one more

1870
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 3: question real quick.

1871
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 9: We interviewed Snoop Dogg years ago for his documentary and

1872
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 9: he said, you know how he does all the Super

1873
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 9: Bowl like celebration parties. He said that you were integral

1874
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 9: to getting him to like play the Super Bowl parties.

1875
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: I was. We started that. So I had an entertainment company.

1876
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: I still have it where it was a one. I

1877
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: was the one who got Snoop to come out and

1878
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: perform because mister Kraft is known for bringing in the

1879
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: big time artists. But we bought in let me tell

1880
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: you what we bought in. We bought in Snoop and

1881
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 2: from that time, Snoop was always performed at our Super

1882
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: Bowl after parties. But we also bought in Kanye when

1883
01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 2: he had the single The Wire, and you know who

1884
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 2: his hype man was, John Legend.

1885
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: Wow, so you had those three.

1886
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: This hype man was John Legend, bron and Kanye performed

1887
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 2: that single, uh the Wire because I was friends with

1888
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: some people at the label, so they got him to

1889
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 2: come in. We got him, and then Snoop was my boy.

1890
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 2: And Snoop has started the s y f L and

1891
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: the youth football and I was just like mister Craft,

1892
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 2: he should come in and perform if we win. Snoop

1893
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: Dogg was gonna come and perform, and Da da da

1894
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 2: da dah. They worked out the business and from then on,

1895
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 2: Snoop has been like family with the Patriots and performing

1896
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: at the at the post game.

1897
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 3: How was Young Kanye West back then? Awesome?

1898
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Ye Young that's no matter what, however crazy he is.

1899
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: That dude is so genius.

1900
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 2: He is, and it was I think this is his

1901
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 2: single was the Wire at the time he had was

1902
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 2: the hype man. We didn't even know it then, Like

1903
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: we didn't know he was coming up. We're just like,

1904
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 2: he's the hype man. He's the So the.

1905
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Patriots early Patriots are basically like Saturday Night Live. They

1906
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 1: give all the early I.

1907
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: Mean, we had We've had a Kid Rock, we had

1908
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Rick Ross, you know, we have We've had everybody but.

1909
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Earth went and fire. We lost Damn that sitting there

1910
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: licking your wounds.

1911
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 2: But you know what, to have all those performances means

1912
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: you got to be going to super Bowls.

1913
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 3: That's that's the caveat to all that.

1914
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 2: Now, if you're not going to super Bowls, nobody's trying

1915
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,879
Speaker 2: to plan a Super Bowl after party were.

1916
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: We were unbelievably blessed and fortunate.

1917
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1918
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: The longer you're out, the more you realize that because

1919
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: you meet so many other athletes, they put in the

1920
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: same work as you, and I don't know about the same.

1921
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: But there's some guys that worked their ass off and

1922
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: they just didn't get caught up on a good team

1923
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: that a break didn't go there, you know what I mean.

1924
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: A lot of things got to go right for you

1925
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. And the fact that we

1926
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: were able to get to the super Bowl. You got

1927
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl, let alone win it.

1928
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 11: Willie Mack. We gotta plug anything. What do we got nothing? Man,

1929
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 11: We want our Trojans to do well. My daughter's playing

1930
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 11: in the playoffs. I got three daughters playing, Howard sc

1931
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 11: and Sarah Canyon. And I appreciate you guys. Man, you

1932
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 11: guys are I'll watch you guys. You guys do a

1933
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 11: phenomenal job. Great job, keep it going and uh continued success.

1934
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 11: Thanks Broe absolutely my dog.

1935
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1936
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,879
Speaker 1: Always, We'll be right back after this quick break.

1937
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1938
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 8: He's like a big brother, big bro. It's like the

1939
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 8: big bro will He's a man. He came in here

1940
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 8: and brought the heat everything and then some.

1941
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 3: What a guy. Yeah, great game selections.

1942
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 8: Great games, great score, great score, integrity score, integrity score, awesome,

1943
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 8: memory took us right down Memory Lane.

1944
01:32:58,240 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 3: Knew that was awesome.

1945
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: Clark McGuinness, hmmm, when the game is aline.

1946
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 3: I always love the chess match between just like games, and.

1947
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Especially that chess match that was an elite chess match,

1948
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Patriots versus Peyton.

1949
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 9: Do you ever see the clip where, like I think

1950
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 9: Bill or Peyton talks about how Ed Reid would like

1951
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 9: do stuff like that to fool Peyton.

1952
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, read Troy was like that a lot.

1953
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 8: Paul Moller, Yeah, that play is a little bit Roman

1954
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 8: empiry for me. I think about that goal is in

1955
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 8: a lot.

1956
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 3: That Yes, yes, I mean you were a real hype.

1957
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 8: I loh my god. When Willie said this is the

1958
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 8: game you want to do, I was over the moon.

1959
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 8: I think it was him a lot.

1960
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why Willy Knax like so connected.

1961
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 7: Bro.

1962
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 3: This guy's this guy's he's more plugged in the record

1963
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 3: than it looks like Jones. He looks like he can

1964
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 3: set They looked amazing.

1965
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: He still looks just for everyone out there definitely looks

1966
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: like he got he's got five ten plays in.

1967
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 3: Him, at least peak physical shape.

1968
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 8: I mean, you gotta stop that touchboys, Willie Max.

1969
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't the fourth overall pick for no reason,

1970
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: no bro specimen. Well, it's time to chill out, and

1971
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: it's time for the Chill Zone, brought to you by

1972
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: cors Light. Get cors Light delivered straight to your door.

1973
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: Visit Coreslight dot com, slash gwn celebrate responsibly.

1974
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 3: So what are we doing here, Jackie oh Man?

1975
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 8: We got some hotline questions and we got another little

1976
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 8: little writing discord question if we had time, but we're

1977
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 8: in the hotline.

1978
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 2: We haven't.

1979
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: We have nearly hit it in a while. We have

1980
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 3: the phone number.

1981
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 8: We got the phone number that is four two four

1982
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 8: two nine one two two nine zero. Next time I

1983
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 8: get a little jammed up in some legal trouble, that's

1984
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 8: my first call from the from the precinct.

1985
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 3: I know that number by heart, the only number I

1986
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 3: know by heart, the only one that checks it. Oh fuck,

1987
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,719
Speaker 3: it looks like that Bayline getting paid. Hey we're jacko

1988
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 3: shit what we got?

1989
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Hey, Julian Edelman, this is the best podcast going And

1990
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: I think you should get Tim Tebow on to cover

1991
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: the playoff win against the Feelers at Mile High Electric.

1992
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: That was an electric that was electric. I've seen some

1993
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: some like conspiracy stuff on that, or not conspiracy, but

1994
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: like like weird like numbers like thirty three seconds or something.

1995
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of like Tim Tebow numerology, like numerology.

1996
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: There's some like cool stuff about that game.

1997
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 3: Tebowing. We should do his time.

1998
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: He was so like I mean, like Lynn Sanity Tabou

1999
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: literally took over the wit. They took over the world.

2000
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: That was unbelievable. People don't realize he was. And I

2001
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: saw that he was really famous when he came to

2002
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: our our team. Like this guy, he's got the Tebow effect.

2003
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: He had like three books before he was twenty eight.

2004
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

2005
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 3: I mean, the aura, the aura around that guy.

2006
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 8: Here's my question, though, do you think Tebow are we

2007
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 8: on his radar doll?

2008
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 3: Has he heard some of the things we say about h.

2009
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 9: One has said someone has sent him a clip of

2010
01:35:58,800 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 9: the circumstances guarante.

2011
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: Arry's gonna try to not go to that.

2012
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 3: I know. I'm just curious since we did.

2013
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 12: Now was the time You're not gonna go there every

2014
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 12: other show, every other one hundred and fifty episodes we've done.

2015
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 2: To this show.

2016
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: He's cool with the jokes. I've seen it firsthand. I think,

2017
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: when do you come in the You think if we

2018
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 1: invited him he'd come.

2019
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2020
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 3: He's pretty big time.

2021
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 8: I know he is pretty big time. You should him,

2022
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 8: I'll be what's up to may never hurts? Yeah, Josh

2023
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 8: McDaniels was the coach.

2024
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 3: That's true. Maybe Josh could put in the good word

2025
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 3: for us.

2026
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 1: Josh was the coach. Yeah, for the playoffs. Yeah, it

2027
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: was twenty eleven.

2028
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 3: Or ten.

2029
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 9: I think it was ten eleven. He went to the

2030
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 9: Super Bowl, right and lost?

2031
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,480
Speaker 1: Was Josh the head coach of that team?

2032
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 9: It was a twenty eleven season, yes, but was the coach?

2033
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 8: Yes, So Josh was there from how many years?

2034
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: Was let me see, Josh was in Denver for was

2035
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: it two or three years?

2036
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 9: Playoffs? Three years?

2037
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 3: Three years?

2038
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is this is twenty ten. It was a

2039
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 9: twenty eleven season, but it was January.

2040
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Eighth, and it wasn't.

2041
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: Josh wasn't the He was the head coach of this

2042
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: broncost that won a playoff game. So Josh won a

2043
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: playoff game.

2044
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 3: Wait, was he not gone by then?

2045
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: He was there?

2046
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 3: So second year? Okay, I'm looking at it right now.

2047
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy.

2048
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 3: But hold on.

2049
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 9: But yes, was Josh the coach? Yeah, that's what I'm

2050
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 9: looking at. Tim Tebow, motherfucker.

2051
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 3: I don't think he was John Fox. It was John Fox. Sorry, bad,

2052
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 3: that's me, that's me. I thought it was Josh.

2053
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 1: And they went the year.

2054
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 8: Before, Yes, and then he was in he was in

2055
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 8: Saint Louis this year. My bad, eleven, My bad.

2056
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, they came to us.

2057
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 3: I'm getting all tripped in the playoffs. I think we're

2058
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 3: in the children. Yeah, we're chilling, bro, what're chilling?

2059
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 13: Hey yours? My name is Wayne and I'm from PA.

2060
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 13: I just wanted to call in and tell you a

2061
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 13: funny little story.

2062
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

2063
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 13: I'm currently twenty six, and when I was sixteen, going

2064
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 13: to go get my driver's license night before, I was

2065
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 13: very nervous, and I decided to watch joy A hum

2066
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 13: in high Wits to hype me up the entire night.

2067
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 13: And I had the past of my test and I

2068
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 13: gave all the credit to you. I know that makes

2069
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 13: no sense at all, but nah, man, I just wanted

2070
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 13: to call and tell you my idol and thank you

2071
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 13: for all the memories on the pats and uh, it's

2072
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 13: nice seeing on the podcast. Keep doing well, man.

2073
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Good but no dream is too big?

2074
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 9: Well that's funny because that's what Jack does before shows

2075
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 9: he's worried about.

2076
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

2077
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 8: Hey, fuck a cup of folders, baby, I'll start my

2078
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 8: day with j E eleven highlights. Yeah.

2079
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 9: Recently on the plane, I watched the forty five minute

2080
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,839
Speaker 9: cutup of just Gronk highlights.

2081
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 3: Nice, Oh my god.

2082
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 9: Insane the stuff that you forget that he did, absolutely

2083
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 9: fucking insane.

2084
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: I do that everyone so long. I watched Gronk highlights.

2085
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: What's the last what are the last Kyler?

2086
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: You said? Gronk was who's the last guys highlights you

2087
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 3: through on? I think I think it's just literally grownk.

2088
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it's been on my algorithm.

2089
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 3: I get served out of the firefire.

2090
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 8: I think I was watching some uh the watching some

2091
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 8: Yoming highlights not that long ago, ye mean, yeah, always fun.

2092
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 3: It kind of a go to standard. Who else we

2093
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 3: did a lot we did for some dudes episodes. We

2094
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 3: did Dick Buckets. That was a fun one. Those are

2095
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 3: fire Miles Garrett.

2096
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 8: Miles Garrett, Yeah, I was watching some rude vinnissil Roy highlights.

2097
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 1: I don't watch it necessarily an individual. I watch an

2098
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,879
Speaker 1: era highlight. Oh okay, I like that, like the eighties,

2099
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: seventies clanging and banging, Yeah, clanging and.

2100
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 9: Rocking soccer, big and hockey. You get the vats just

2101
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 9: to Don Cherry's rocking soccer. Oh the biggest, the worst,

2102
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 9: the worst hits of nineteen ninety three.

2103
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh ma'am, what's next?

2104
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: Yous?

2105
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 8: I know you said you did your time, but imagine

2106
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 8: fourth Super Bowl ring is a wide receiver coach?

2107
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 3: Imagine probably not gonna imagine that one. Is it?

2108
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: What is it?

2109
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:58,799
Speaker 3: Todd Downing?

2110
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 9: Now you're more like need to suit up playing then

2111
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 9: you were.

2112
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 3: To coach, No way, can't run.

2113
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 8: It was crazy to me that we don't talk about enough.

2114
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 8: McAdoo is still on the staff.

2115
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: Macado's on our staff.

2116
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 3: Ben McAdoo, I like that immature talks about that. The

2117
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 3: boat pick. I don't know why. I'm just going through

2118
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: the roster right now.

2119
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 1: I think I remember seeing I was like, oh ship,

2120
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: we have macat year when I was out.

2121
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 3: There, Doug maron two. That's crazy. I know, I know, Doug,

2122
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 3: he's doing a good Ah. That's crazy. Though. We shout

2123
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 3: out to uh.

2124
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 8: Shout out to the current wide receivers coach Todd Down.

2125
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: I spoke with them there.

2126
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 3: He's working them nice.

2127
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: They're looking good. They got a pretty good in the

2128
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 1: unit there. Everyone said they had now no big names

2129
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: before this season, and all I keep on seeing is

2130
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: digs with like seven eight catches. I see Booty with

2131
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: a nick explosion play here and there, an important guy

2132
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: to have it played by little pop Hunter Henry. Don't

2133
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 1: forget about him. Like they're distributing the football around, they're

2134
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: making the plays.

2135
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 3: Austin Hooper. They got guys man, I like it. Hooper Committee.

2136
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: Hooper's made some big plays too.

2137
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 3: Booty might like lead the league in the air yards.

2138
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I was just going to

2139
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 3: see that big.

2140
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 9: And they're a lot like forty three nine yards just

2141
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 9: like no no yards have to catch.

2142
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: He's been he's been really good. Yeah, I been really good.

2143
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 3: Man Lsu. He was a number seven guy, right.

2144
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: I remember Josh talking high about him. He was seven.

2145
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 3: He was seven.

2146
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, guys, it's Stacy from Texas and I don't

2147
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 7: know what y'all think. But football is on fire, and

2148
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 7: I wanted to know whether you like the duo of

2149
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 7: Drake May and Will Campbell or scat a Boot and Dark.

2150
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 7: Let me know, thank you.

2151
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 3: Well, thank you Stacy from Texas. Stacy she did. She's

2152
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 3: a great caller. I love Stacey. She she always comes

2153
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 3: with some.

2154
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 9: Teacher his ball and uh, Austin.

2155
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: I like big men, you know what I mean. Drake

2156
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: May is big. It's on record as saying did you

2157
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 1: see you see him next to Gronk and that that

2158
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: interview didn't look small. That means he's big like that, ye,

2159
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: And then I met with Campbell. He's large. I like,

2160
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: I like, I want a lineman in my duo. I'm

2161
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,480
Speaker 1: with you, any one lineman I love. I love Skataboo

2162
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: and Dart. They're fun, they're energetic, their energy and and

2163
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 1: they're they're they're they they're.

2164
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Having you know.

2165
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Scataboo's hurt and that was disgusting to watch. But

2166
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go Drake Man Campbell.

2167
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 8: I'm with you on that one. I like these fun

2168
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 8: young duos in the league right now. Yeah, got a

2169
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 8: lot of them.

2170
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 3: What are some other ones?

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Speaker 8: Listening Cam Scattaboo, Jackson, Dart, you got Will Campbell, Drake May,

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Speaker 8: you got a man Duneesay Caleb Roman. Caleb is really

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Speaker 8: fun there they're on a little page. I don't know

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Speaker 8: that things are going that great down in Washington, but

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Speaker 8: I like the Jade and Daniels and and some of

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Speaker 8: his guys. He's got down there with Debo and then

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Speaker 8: he's got what's his name, my.

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Speaker 3: Man scary Terry's fun.

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Speaker 8: But like two young guys too young. You gotta be

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Speaker 8: too young, Tom. They came in together. What do you got, guy?

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Speaker 3: But any oh we got you got down down in Houston.

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Speaker 8: Stroud and and and Collins are fun.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, trying to think here, two young.

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Speaker 1: Guys send us enough young guys to compare.

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Speaker 3: It was likes big guys and young guys. Yes, come on,

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Speaker 3: big young guys.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 8: And then we got our last one here. This one

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Speaker 8: comes from the world of Discord. It is a question

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Speaker 8: that has also been going viral. This is from David M.

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Speaker 8: If you could delete one sports memory from your brain.

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Speaker 3: What would it be?

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Speaker 8: Delete hit that that men in blackpe Delete Now it's

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Speaker 8: just a memory, just the middle What happens, still happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh doesn't you don't it doesn't take the play away.

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Speaker 9: No, it still exists, you just don't remember it. So

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Speaker 9: a couple of your players, I'm sure, are already in

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Speaker 9: this category.

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Speaker 3: The stumble bump stumble bump from youth football. I would say.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a Chiefs flow or I my last year playing,

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Speaker 1: I like, bobbled the ball and I think honey Badger

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Speaker 1: picked it and picked six.

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Speaker 3: Did I think?

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Speaker 2: Fuck?

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Speaker 3: I forgot about that. I don't like that one. Delete

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Speaker 3: delete about you Jack all of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, No, I like some of the Notre Dame memories.

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Speaker 8: I like some of my Dahmer's memories. Shout out coach

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Speaker 8: Marcus Freeman. I think there is a play from the

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Speaker 8: NCAA tournament Davidson Marquez twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we ended up blowing that thing.

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Speaker 8: Threw it away, Demon Brooks throws it out of bounds

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Speaker 8: on the baseline, ob inbounds pass, Marquette gets it side,

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Speaker 8: ob comes down, scores wins the game. I passed out

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Speaker 8: after I literally passed out. I literally passed out, like

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Speaker 8: just my body just shut down. I wish I could

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Speaker 8: forget that but you can't. But you actually passed out,

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Speaker 8: literally passed out, woke up the next morning.

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Speaker 3: The next morning, I was like out in my dorm room,

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Speaker 3: crazy man. That's one of them. That's an underrated one.

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Speaker 3: Of course the helmet catch, of course, the Manningham catch.

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Speaker 3: But that's one that's a that's a deep cut for you.

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Speaker 1: Sound like my dad after too many nick Riettes.

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Speaker 8: Dude, dude, I was worried about my guy yesterday. This

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Speaker 8: was twenty thirteen, Davidson Marquette, first round, number three seed,

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Speaker 8: Marquette fourteen Davidson.

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Speaker 3: Dude, Frank, I was worried about my guy. He's back.

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Speaker 3: He's back, though, So.

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Speaker 9: I think, for me, what do you think I would

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Speaker 9: like to forget? September eleventh, hear me out.

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Speaker 12: Twenty ten, twenty ten, James Madison beats Virginny Tech in Glacksburg.

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, oh my god, a national day of one.

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Speaker 1: He had to go there. I'll never forget.

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Speaker 5: The dukes.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome, said.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, brutal, okay, brutal.

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Speaker 2: That was good.

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Speaker 1: So that was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Last one the shout out to those memories they got deleted.

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Speaker 3: If we don't remember them. They didn't happen. Alright, there

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Speaker 3: you go, she stretched.

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