1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:25,708 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio Good Morning Football. 3 00:00:25,748 --> 00:00:27,868 Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football. We are live in New 4 00:00:27,948 --> 00:00:30,988 Speaker 2: York City. It is Friday, July fourteenth. I'm Sarah Walsh 5 00:00:31,028 --> 00:00:34,668 Speaker 2: alongside Cameron Wolf. We've got Super Bowl champion defensive tackle 6 00:00:34,788 --> 00:00:37,668 Speaker 2: Malik Jackson, and now we got Pro Bowl linebacker Jalen 7 00:00:37,748 --> 00:00:39,468 Speaker 2: Smith joining the breakfast table. 8 00:00:39,468 --> 00:00:43,388 Speaker 3: This let's go last blessess man, It's a blessing to 9 00:00:43,388 --> 00:00:43,988 Speaker 3: be here for sure. 10 00:00:44,148 --> 00:00:45,268 Speaker 4: I want to kick it off this way. 11 00:00:45,388 --> 00:00:48,028 Speaker 2: Move over, Tom Pellis Aerra move over Ian Rappaport. I've 12 00:00:48,068 --> 00:00:50,668 Speaker 2: got breaking news like three minutes before the show. As 13 00:00:50,668 --> 00:00:53,788 Speaker 2: I was sitting here talking to Malik, because yesterday we 14 00:00:53,868 --> 00:00:57,348 Speaker 2: introduced him as free agent, and I said, are you done? 15 00:00:57,348 --> 00:00:59,188 Speaker 2: You never know how you can tread there, And so 16 00:00:59,308 --> 00:01:00,908 Speaker 2: Malik has an announcement to. 17 00:01:00,828 --> 00:01:01,708 Speaker 5: Make Yeah, I'm done. 18 00:01:04,388 --> 00:01:05,388 Speaker 6: It's a retirement of house. 19 00:01:05,908 --> 00:01:08,908 Speaker 5: Yes, I appreciated the free agency tag. It made me 20 00:01:08,948 --> 00:01:10,948 Speaker 5: feel good, but I was like, nah, I'm not leaving 21 00:01:10,948 --> 00:01:12,708 Speaker 5: the couch right now. I'm happy at home. 22 00:01:13,068 --> 00:01:15,548 Speaker 2: Malik, what if because I said free agent, what if 23 00:01:15,548 --> 00:01:17,668 Speaker 2: this is already done in your mind? And yesterday I 24 00:01:17,668 --> 00:01:19,228 Speaker 2: come on and I'm like, we've got free agent. Like 25 00:01:19,308 --> 00:01:20,988 Speaker 2: what if the phone rang yesterday and someone's like, you 26 00:01:21,028 --> 00:01:21,388 Speaker 2: know what we did? 27 00:01:21,508 --> 00:01:21,868 Speaker 7: We didn't know. 28 00:01:21,988 --> 00:01:23,468 Speaker 4: Now we're back in. Would you would you. 29 00:01:23,468 --> 00:01:26,908 Speaker 5: Consider unless it was LA team with the right amount 30 00:01:26,908 --> 00:01:29,148 Speaker 5: of money and not playing, I would be okay with that, 31 00:01:29,308 --> 00:01:30,388 Speaker 5: no playing, no practicing. 32 00:01:30,668 --> 00:01:32,268 Speaker 6: H Okay, you want to be your Donna's hassle? 33 00:01:32,348 --> 00:01:34,148 Speaker 5: Is you Donna's hasse? Okay, this out here just getting 34 00:01:34,148 --> 00:01:36,708 Speaker 5: guys together, like, let's get it man, telling them what 35 00:01:36,748 --> 00:01:38,268 Speaker 5: to do. But I'm not doing anything but ten. 36 00:01:38,268 --> 00:01:40,188 Speaker 2: NFL seasons and not a lot of guys get to 37 00:01:40,228 --> 00:01:42,708 Speaker 2: that plateau. And when you started, if someone would have 38 00:01:42,708 --> 00:01:44,028 Speaker 2: told you, hey, you're going to get a decade in 39 00:01:44,068 --> 00:01:45,268 Speaker 2: the NFL, what would you have thought? 40 00:01:45,748 --> 00:01:47,468 Speaker 5: I would say you're right, you know, I would have 41 00:01:47,508 --> 00:01:48,988 Speaker 5: said you're right now. But that was a goal. Ten 42 00:01:49,028 --> 00:01:50,148 Speaker 5: to twelve years was my goal. 43 00:01:50,268 --> 00:01:50,428 Speaker 7: You know. 44 00:01:50,428 --> 00:01:51,708 Speaker 5: I was able to get to a point where I 45 00:01:51,748 --> 00:01:54,068 Speaker 5: was did okay, did pretty well for myself, and uh, 46 00:01:54,148 --> 00:01:55,748 Speaker 5: you know, I think I just did enough. You know, 47 00:01:55,748 --> 00:01:57,148 Speaker 5: I have a daughter and I need to go home 48 00:01:57,188 --> 00:01:59,028 Speaker 5: and just want to be with her and and uh, 49 00:01:59,068 --> 00:02:00,188 Speaker 5: you know, start living life. 50 00:02:00,268 --> 00:02:02,508 Speaker 7: So yeah, it's awesome, Thank you, grat Malik. 51 00:02:02,908 --> 00:02:05,148 Speaker 6: Ten years in the league. Fifth round pick. 52 00:02:05,228 --> 00:02:06,828 Speaker 8: You know, a lot of fifth round picks don't make 53 00:02:06,868 --> 00:02:08,468 Speaker 8: it to three or four, and you've made it what 54 00:02:08,588 --> 00:02:09,388 Speaker 8: three four times? 55 00:02:09,388 --> 00:02:10,068 Speaker 6: That so cares. 56 00:02:10,188 --> 00:02:11,748 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get our researcher right on that. 57 00:02:11,788 --> 00:02:13,748 Speaker 2: If Adams could just pull up fifth round picks that 58 00:02:13,788 --> 00:02:14,748 Speaker 2: go a decade, that'll lot. 59 00:02:14,748 --> 00:02:16,708 Speaker 4: That'll be a full screen in the next inspiration for sure. 60 00:02:16,908 --> 00:02:19,668 Speaker 2: For sure, it is time for the lead block now 61 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:21,348 Speaker 2: though Aaron Rodgers. 62 00:02:20,988 --> 00:02:23,388 Speaker 7: Oh, go ahead, lead block. 63 00:02:24,828 --> 00:02:29,308 Speaker 2: Change Aaron Rodgers to New York has dominated the headlines 64 00:02:29,308 --> 00:02:32,308 Speaker 2: in the Big Apple and the NFL world. Well, yesterday, 65 00:02:32,708 --> 00:02:35,628 Speaker 2: the Jets dropped another bit of news with the latest 66 00:02:35,668 --> 00:02:38,668 Speaker 2: on a huge contract extension. Here's actually one of our 67 00:02:38,868 --> 00:02:40,588 Speaker 2: real insiders might hear full. 68 00:02:40,428 --> 00:02:43,708 Speaker 9: Of another big development for the Jets and an off 69 00:02:43,788 --> 00:02:46,948 Speaker 9: season full of them. Defensive tackle Quinn Williams signing a 70 00:02:46,988 --> 00:02:50,148 Speaker 9: four year, ninety six million dollar extension that now puts 71 00:02:50,188 --> 00:02:53,588 Speaker 9: him under contract for the next five years with the Jets. 72 00:02:53,588 --> 00:02:57,228 Speaker 9: The deal including sixty six million dollars in guarantees. He 73 00:02:57,348 --> 00:03:01,148 Speaker 9: jumps over Jeffrey Simmons on a per year average basis. 74 00:03:01,148 --> 00:03:03,588 Speaker 9: Simmons had recently done a deal with the Tennessee Titans 75 00:03:03,588 --> 00:03:06,308 Speaker 9: to become the second highest paid defensive tackle. And we 76 00:03:06,348 --> 00:03:09,348 Speaker 9: say second because Aaron Donald has long been the highest 77 00:03:09,388 --> 00:03:12,428 Speaker 9: paid and even got an extension that jumped over himself 78 00:03:12,508 --> 00:03:15,108 Speaker 9: a couple of years ago. So everybody else really jockeying 79 00:03:15,188 --> 00:03:17,788 Speaker 9: for second place right now that belongs to Quinn Williams. 80 00:03:17,868 --> 00:03:20,508 Speaker 9: But the big news for the Jets here is that Williams, 81 00:03:20,548 --> 00:03:23,628 Speaker 9: shortly before the deal became official and reported, put the 82 00:03:23,708 --> 00:03:26,748 Speaker 9: Jets back in his Twitter bio earlier this offseason. Upset 83 00:03:26,788 --> 00:03:30,308 Speaker 9: with the progress of negotiations, he said, defensive tackle for blank. 84 00:03:30,428 --> 00:03:32,308 Speaker 9: He filled in that blank in all caps, the New 85 00:03:32,388 --> 00:03:34,748 Speaker 9: York Jets. So Williams and the Jets happy this deal 86 00:03:34,908 --> 00:03:35,868 Speaker 9: is done. 87 00:03:37,748 --> 00:03:40,708 Speaker 2: Quentinn Williams doing very well for himself. At the age 88 00:03:40,748 --> 00:03:44,428 Speaker 2: of twenty five. He is the oldest of the youngsters 89 00:03:44,788 --> 00:03:46,828 Speaker 2: that you can see on this graphic, All of that 90 00:03:46,908 --> 00:03:50,108 Speaker 2: youth ready to soak up the experience of the man at. 91 00:03:50,028 --> 00:03:52,188 Speaker 4: The top of that list, a four time MVP, future 92 00:03:52,188 --> 00:03:52,428 Speaker 4: Hall of. 93 00:03:52,508 --> 00:03:56,188 Speaker 2: Famer, thirty nine year old Aaron Rodgers. So you can 94 00:03:56,228 --> 00:03:59,068 Speaker 2: sense the energy surrounding the Jets. This is just another 95 00:03:59,148 --> 00:04:02,068 Speaker 2: exclamation point for them this offseason, and that is in 96 00:04:02,148 --> 00:04:05,508 Speaker 2: large part obviously due to aaron'sar Malik. You were a 97 00:04:05,588 --> 00:04:08,428 Speaker 2: rookie in Denver when Peyton joined the team. Tell us 98 00:04:08,428 --> 00:04:10,588 Speaker 2: what that experience was like when he showed up and 99 00:04:10,628 --> 00:04:12,028 Speaker 2: what you guys took from him. 100 00:04:12,228 --> 00:04:13,908 Speaker 5: I mean, he was awesome. Yeah, when I showed up, 101 00:04:14,308 --> 00:04:15,948 Speaker 5: I was a rookie and he was coming to the 102 00:04:15,988 --> 00:04:17,988 Speaker 5: team from Indianapolis. It was really cool just to have 103 00:04:18,068 --> 00:04:19,948 Speaker 5: him around, you know, me being from Tennessee and hearing 104 00:04:19,948 --> 00:04:21,588 Speaker 5: a lot of playing at Tennessee and hearing a lot 105 00:04:21,628 --> 00:04:24,108 Speaker 5: abottom and then also seeing him in person. The story 106 00:04:24,148 --> 00:04:26,588 Speaker 5: I remember is we were practicing and it was like 107 00:04:26,628 --> 00:04:30,188 Speaker 5: OTA's aprilish and we're doing gashers. We had about twenty 108 00:04:30,228 --> 00:04:32,308 Speaker 5: of them, and coaches like, all right, guys, last one 109 00:04:32,348 --> 00:04:34,108 Speaker 5: and we get it done. He's like two more. You 110 00:04:34,228 --> 00:04:36,308 Speaker 5: hit a whole line, Like what damn? You know, he's 111 00:04:36,308 --> 00:04:38,468 Speaker 5: a quarterback. He's not running like that, you know. So 112 00:04:38,508 --> 00:04:39,708 Speaker 5: it was one of those things that he came in 113 00:04:39,788 --> 00:04:42,188 Speaker 5: just with the leadership right off the bat and just 114 00:04:42,228 --> 00:04:44,028 Speaker 5: pushing guys to tell him, hey, let's go, let's do this, 115 00:04:44,068 --> 00:04:45,908 Speaker 5: and he took charge right away. 116 00:04:46,428 --> 00:04:48,908 Speaker 4: How do you expect Aaron to take charge. 117 00:04:49,268 --> 00:04:52,188 Speaker 5: I expect him to be vocal, come in, very consistent, 118 00:04:52,348 --> 00:04:54,628 Speaker 5: hard body. I know him personally. I know he's gonna 119 00:04:54,668 --> 00:04:56,588 Speaker 5: be himself first of all, but then also let these 120 00:04:56,628 --> 00:04:58,108 Speaker 5: guys know what it takes. I think that's why he 121 00:04:58,148 --> 00:04:59,548 Speaker 5: brought a lot of guys with them, so he can 122 00:04:59,588 --> 00:05:01,988 Speaker 5: have that support system in each maybe room to run 123 00:05:01,988 --> 00:05:03,948 Speaker 5: the back I know, receiver for sure, tight end, room 124 00:05:04,028 --> 00:05:05,788 Speaker 5: to kind of let everybody know what he expects and 125 00:05:05,828 --> 00:05:07,588 Speaker 5: what he thinks, and to make sure that these new 126 00:05:07,628 --> 00:05:09,628 Speaker 5: guys can think like him. And so I think he's 127 00:05:09,628 --> 00:05:10,748 Speaker 5: going to have a good year and I think he's 128 00:05:10,748 --> 00:05:11,868 Speaker 5: going to be a good leader for them. 129 00:05:11,948 --> 00:05:13,988 Speaker 2: Jalen, we know all the stats, we know how good 130 00:05:13,988 --> 00:05:17,068 Speaker 2: he is, we know what his arm is. What are 131 00:05:17,108 --> 00:05:19,068 Speaker 2: the intangibles that we don't know in the ways that 132 00:05:19,108 --> 00:05:20,508 Speaker 2: he's going to impact this Jets team. 133 00:05:20,748 --> 00:05:24,348 Speaker 7: I think his character and his chemistry. 134 00:05:24,468 --> 00:05:27,428 Speaker 3: He's a guy that adbys by the three seeds, character, chemistry, 135 00:05:27,428 --> 00:05:30,188 Speaker 3: and competency. You saw last year, you know he was 136 00:05:30,588 --> 00:05:33,348 Speaker 3: on guy's tails when you know people may not have 137 00:05:33,428 --> 00:05:37,068 Speaker 3: known the system or the route tree in things of 138 00:05:37,108 --> 00:05:39,508 Speaker 3: that nature. So he's a guy that really brings those 139 00:05:39,508 --> 00:05:43,668 Speaker 3: intangibles that demands greatness. I love him rocking the number eight. 140 00:05:44,068 --> 00:05:46,988 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing him back in his single 141 00:05:46,988 --> 00:05:49,788 Speaker 3: digit way. So it's gonna be a great feeling for sure. 142 00:05:50,348 --> 00:05:53,188 Speaker 8: I can't wait to see Rogers impact on the Jets defense. 143 00:05:53,588 --> 00:05:55,868 Speaker 8: The Jets defense was very good last year, like one 144 00:05:55,948 --> 00:05:58,308 Speaker 8: of the best in the league, and it just seemed 145 00:05:58,308 --> 00:06:01,028 Speaker 8: like they were holding up the team. At times, there 146 00:06:01,068 --> 00:06:03,348 Speaker 8: seemed like there was a disconnect and a lot of 147 00:06:03,348 --> 00:06:05,308 Speaker 8: times I'm in locker room, so you can tell when 148 00:06:05,588 --> 00:06:07,428 Speaker 8: the defense and the offense have a little bit of 149 00:06:07,468 --> 00:06:09,708 Speaker 8: a division. A defense feels like they're doing a lot 150 00:06:09,708 --> 00:06:11,668 Speaker 8: of the work and the offense maybe isn't putting up 151 00:06:11,668 --> 00:06:13,868 Speaker 8: there into the bargain. That felt like the twenty twenty 152 00:06:13,908 --> 00:06:16,268 Speaker 8: two Jets. And I still remember there was a game 153 00:06:16,348 --> 00:06:19,588 Speaker 8: last year where Zach Wilson played poorly and they were 154 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:21,988 Speaker 8: playing the Patriots and he has a clip in the 155 00:06:21,988 --> 00:06:25,348 Speaker 8: press conference and they asked him simply, do you feel 156 00:06:25,348 --> 00:06:27,948 Speaker 8: like you let the defense down? And we're gonna play 157 00:06:27,988 --> 00:06:29,988 Speaker 8: the clip in the second and his answer to me 158 00:06:30,388 --> 00:06:32,988 Speaker 8: kind of set the season and really set the tone 159 00:06:33,028 --> 00:06:33,868 Speaker 8: for the Jets season. 160 00:06:34,188 --> 00:06:36,108 Speaker 6: That defense had played good enough to win. 161 00:06:36,228 --> 00:06:38,348 Speaker 8: Zach Wilson cost him the game, but he didn't really 162 00:06:38,388 --> 00:06:42,268 Speaker 8: take the accountability for that performance. And so when you 163 00:06:42,268 --> 00:06:44,828 Speaker 8: throw three interception, four interception, you want your quarterback to 164 00:06:44,828 --> 00:06:46,548 Speaker 8: be the leader to take the pressure off of your 165 00:06:46,548 --> 00:06:51,028 Speaker 8: players shoulders, and we didn't see that. And so I 166 00:06:51,028 --> 00:06:53,068 Speaker 8: think you get an Aaron Rodgers out there, it takes 167 00:06:53,148 --> 00:06:55,028 Speaker 8: pressure off of the defense. They know that guy is 168 00:06:55,068 --> 00:06:57,188 Speaker 8: going to be the leader, the sheriff like Peyton Manning 169 00:06:57,348 --> 00:07:00,548 Speaker 8: was for you in Denver, and you have an accountability there, 170 00:07:00,548 --> 00:07:03,428 Speaker 8: but you also have an expectation that rises. You know 171 00:07:03,468 --> 00:07:05,588 Speaker 8: you're going to be a champion ship level team. With 172 00:07:05,708 --> 00:07:07,828 Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, there is a big difference from what they 173 00:07:07,828 --> 00:07:09,948 Speaker 8: had last year. And that's why we're talking about the 174 00:07:10,028 --> 00:07:13,108 Speaker 8: Jets as this can be a Super Bowl contender, whereas 175 00:07:13,188 --> 00:07:15,668 Speaker 8: last year it was seven to ten team, where with 176 00:07:15,748 --> 00:07:17,308 Speaker 8: a defense that was championship club. 177 00:07:17,508 --> 00:07:18,068 Speaker 4: I think I. 178 00:07:18,028 --> 00:07:21,308 Speaker 2: Saw this firsthand in Tampa because when Tom Brady arrived 179 00:07:21,348 --> 00:07:22,668 Speaker 2: in Tampa, the team was. 180 00:07:22,668 --> 00:07:23,348 Speaker 4: Looked at one way. 181 00:07:23,348 --> 00:07:25,588 Speaker 2: Obviously he brought national attention the same way, and this 182 00:07:25,668 --> 00:07:27,268 Speaker 2: is a Jets team that's always going to have national 183 00:07:27,308 --> 00:07:29,388 Speaker 2: attention because of where they're located and then we've seen 184 00:07:29,428 --> 00:07:31,908 Speaker 2: over the course of the summer it just ratched that 185 00:07:32,028 --> 00:07:35,188 Speaker 2: up like tenfold. But when Tom arrived, this was a 186 00:07:35,228 --> 00:07:37,788 Speaker 2: team that didn't have a lot of guys, not zero, 187 00:07:37,908 --> 00:07:41,748 Speaker 2: but very few guys on that roster even had playoff experience, 188 00:07:42,068 --> 00:07:44,828 Speaker 2: and it just really changed the mindset because it's one 189 00:07:44,828 --> 00:07:47,188 Speaker 2: thing to, you know, respect the guys that are older 190 00:07:47,188 --> 00:07:48,388 Speaker 2: than you and have done it. I mean, this guy, 191 00:07:48,428 --> 00:07:50,628 Speaker 2: no one has done it as much as this guy had. 192 00:07:50,668 --> 00:07:54,228 Speaker 2: And so there was almost immediately this sense of belief 193 00:07:54,348 --> 00:07:56,508 Speaker 2: that they could win every game because you're looking at 194 00:07:56,508 --> 00:07:58,988 Speaker 2: a guy who fully believed that, and he fully believed 195 00:07:58,988 --> 00:08:01,228 Speaker 2: it because he did it didn't matter what the deficit was. 196 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,668 Speaker 2: You looked at that quarterback and you knew that he 197 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:06,188 Speaker 2: could bring you back from any deficit that they found 198 00:08:06,228 --> 00:08:09,668 Speaker 2: themselves in. And it's weird because when I asked Jalen 199 00:08:09,708 --> 00:08:12,108 Speaker 2: about the intangibles, I mean, that's what it was. It 200 00:08:12,188 --> 00:08:15,268 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily his arm. Obviously, he gets rid of the 201 00:08:15,308 --> 00:08:18,308 Speaker 2: ball so quickly and that alleviates a lot of pressure 202 00:08:18,348 --> 00:08:20,308 Speaker 2: on folks, but it was that intangible. 203 00:08:20,348 --> 00:08:23,588 Speaker 4: It was a belief system that happened almost overnight. 204 00:08:23,628 --> 00:08:25,348 Speaker 2: I mean, it happened when he arrived, and it was 205 00:08:25,468 --> 00:08:28,668 Speaker 2: just a change in belief system. And obviously I'm not 206 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:31,748 Speaker 2: in the Jets' locker room, but I feel like Aaron 207 00:08:31,868 --> 00:08:34,708 Speaker 2: Rodgers walks in that locker room and it immediately changes 208 00:08:34,788 --> 00:08:37,108 Speaker 2: a belief system on because you know, you guys know this. 209 00:08:37,148 --> 00:08:38,748 Speaker 4: Right, you always have to say the right things. 210 00:08:39,068 --> 00:08:41,428 Speaker 2: You know, every team when training kick kicks off, what's 211 00:08:41,428 --> 00:08:41,748 Speaker 2: the goal? 212 00:08:41,788 --> 00:08:42,948 Speaker 4: The goals to win the super Bowl? 213 00:08:43,028 --> 00:08:45,588 Speaker 2: Like the reality is not everyone really has a shot 214 00:08:45,588 --> 00:08:47,668 Speaker 2: at winning the Super Bowl right next year. But if 215 00:08:47,708 --> 00:08:50,308 Speaker 2: an Aaron Rodgers walks in your locker room, don't you believe, 216 00:08:50,388 --> 00:08:51,828 Speaker 2: like truly believe that's true. 217 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:54,868 Speaker 3: And along with that, I think, much like Tom situation, 218 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:58,028 Speaker 3: Aaron understands that it's a sense of urgency, it has 219 00:08:58,068 --> 00:09:01,468 Speaker 3: to happen. And also with Aaron understanding this young energy, 220 00:09:01,548 --> 00:09:06,228 Speaker 3: this team with a lot of energy, a lot of grace, 221 00:09:06,468 --> 00:09:10,228 Speaker 3: you know, a huge understanding and playing with passion and tenacity, 222 00:09:10,628 --> 00:09:11,868 Speaker 3: he's gonna feed off of that. 223 00:09:11,988 --> 00:09:15,628 Speaker 7: Aaron's a funny guy. He loves for people to be themselves. 224 00:09:15,668 --> 00:09:17,868 Speaker 3: So I think, along with both of those things, I 225 00:09:17,868 --> 00:09:18,908 Speaker 3: think it's gonna jail well. 226 00:09:19,308 --> 00:09:20,388 Speaker 4: And I think on the flip of that. 227 00:09:20,428 --> 00:09:22,588 Speaker 2: We talked about what he's gonna do for the young guys, 228 00:09:22,988 --> 00:09:26,028 Speaker 2: but how much does it maybe rejuvenate Aaron Rodgers? Right, 229 00:09:26,068 --> 00:09:29,268 Speaker 2: you get a second chance with another team, and you 230 00:09:29,268 --> 00:09:31,428 Speaker 2: know there's all this debate leave the Packers. You know 231 00:09:31,508 --> 00:09:35,028 Speaker 2: he's leaving this dynasty. But doesn't that also do something 232 00:09:35,068 --> 00:09:37,948 Speaker 2: for him as well? To have an entirely new set 233 00:09:37,948 --> 00:09:39,868 Speaker 2: of challenges as a player, when you've been in one 234 00:09:39,868 --> 00:09:42,388 Speaker 2: place for a really long time. What does that do 235 00:09:42,468 --> 00:09:45,428 Speaker 2: for a guy going to a completely different world. 236 00:09:45,468 --> 00:09:48,148 Speaker 5: Basically, I think it rejuvenates you. You know, he's coming 237 00:09:48,148 --> 00:09:50,668 Speaker 5: out he's been somewhere. You know you've had that's, so 238 00:09:50,788 --> 00:09:52,468 Speaker 5: to speak, that monkey on your back. You know, you 239 00:09:52,508 --> 00:09:54,348 Speaker 5: go somewhere new. You want to show you exactly who 240 00:09:54,388 --> 00:09:56,148 Speaker 5: you think you are. I'm gonna do exactly I'm gonna 241 00:09:56,148 --> 00:09:57,788 Speaker 5: be exactly who I am, who I have been. And 242 00:09:57,828 --> 00:09:59,788 Speaker 5: I think he's coming out there. I really want to 243 00:09:59,788 --> 00:10:01,908 Speaker 5: show people who he is and that he hasn't changed. 244 00:10:01,908 --> 00:10:03,348 Speaker 5: You know, I would say see that it was a 245 00:10:03,348 --> 00:10:05,188 Speaker 5: Packers faut last year in my thought, you know what 246 00:10:05,228 --> 00:10:07,508 Speaker 5: I mean. So I see him going out there really 247 00:10:07,508 --> 00:10:09,748 Speaker 5: doing his thing, and yeah, I just really hope he 248 00:10:09,788 --> 00:10:10,908 Speaker 5: does it and kills it. 249 00:10:10,908 --> 00:10:13,308 Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because remember when Tom got 250 00:10:13,388 --> 00:10:14,948 Speaker 2: it was that whole first season it felt like it 251 00:10:14,988 --> 00:10:15,988 Speaker 2: was Brady versus Bill. 252 00:10:16,108 --> 00:10:18,108 Speaker 4: I mean they're not, they're each other, but who was 253 00:10:18,148 --> 00:10:19,268 Speaker 4: it was a Brady was it Bill? 254 00:10:19,588 --> 00:10:22,228 Speaker 2: And I think the unfortunate thing for Aaron is that 255 00:10:22,668 --> 00:10:24,108 Speaker 2: Tom wenton did it, and he won a super Bowl 256 00:10:24,108 --> 00:10:26,028 Speaker 2: in the first year, and then Matthew Stafford went and did it. 257 00:10:26,308 --> 00:10:28,908 Speaker 2: So when you look at Aaron Rodgers and what Aaron 258 00:10:28,988 --> 00:10:32,588 Speaker 2: Rodgers is and what he's accomplished, Yeah, the pressures on 259 00:10:33,068 --> 00:10:34,028 Speaker 2: do it this year. 260 00:10:33,988 --> 00:10:34,468 Speaker 7: Right, right? 261 00:10:34,508 --> 00:10:34,948 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 262 00:10:35,028 --> 00:10:37,188 Speaker 8: Now it feels like it's the expectation right that you 263 00:10:37,228 --> 00:10:39,268 Speaker 8: got to win. I want to go back to you, Malik, 264 00:10:39,308 --> 00:10:42,348 Speaker 8: because you were talking about the paydon vibe, and I 265 00:10:42,388 --> 00:10:44,708 Speaker 8: remember that twenty fifteen season, you guys won a Super Bowl. 266 00:10:44,828 --> 00:10:46,988 Speaker 8: The rarely is Peydon didn't play well that year. It 267 00:10:47,028 --> 00:10:49,268 Speaker 8: was it was you guys on defense. But I still 268 00:10:49,308 --> 00:10:52,188 Speaker 8: remember the effect that he had on you guys. I 269 00:10:52,188 --> 00:10:53,868 Speaker 8: still remember there was a moment in the locker room 270 00:10:53,868 --> 00:10:56,828 Speaker 8: where it really hit me. He was doing inside the 271 00:10:56,868 --> 00:10:59,948 Speaker 8: locker room press conference, which really happens. I was talking 272 00:10:59,988 --> 00:11:01,348 Speaker 8: to a defensive guy on the side of the room. 273 00:11:01,388 --> 00:11:04,628 Speaker 8: Everybody stopped and looked and watched him. It was that 274 00:11:04,668 --> 00:11:07,748 Speaker 8: type of vibe. Guys got up off the sidelines when 275 00:11:07,788 --> 00:11:10,028 Speaker 8: the when the offense was on the field, defensive players 276 00:11:10,228 --> 00:11:12,868 Speaker 8: and stood and watched the offense. Where you've been on teams, 277 00:11:12,868 --> 00:11:15,428 Speaker 8: that doesn't always happen. Sometimes you don't need to watch 278 00:11:15,428 --> 00:11:18,188 Speaker 8: the offense. Hey, get ready for our three and out come. 279 00:11:18,388 --> 00:11:21,228 Speaker 8: That wasn't the vibe there. I'm curious from your perspective, 280 00:11:21,268 --> 00:11:23,708 Speaker 8: especially at the end of that season, how much the 281 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:28,588 Speaker 8: aura and the championship pedigree affected the team just as 282 00:11:28,628 --> 00:11:29,988 Speaker 8: much as maybe his play. 283 00:11:29,788 --> 00:11:30,188 Speaker 6: On the field. 284 00:11:30,348 --> 00:11:31,948 Speaker 5: Well, we don't say playing in pay well, you know 285 00:11:31,988 --> 00:11:34,428 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. We're not. We're not going to say that, no, 286 00:11:34,508 --> 00:11:35,908 Speaker 5: but I think it was one of those things that 287 00:11:36,308 --> 00:11:38,388 Speaker 5: back back to her point, when you have somebody that 288 00:11:38,428 --> 00:11:40,068 Speaker 5: you know can dig you out of a hole, whether 289 00:11:40,068 --> 00:11:42,428 Speaker 5: you guys are doing good or not, it matters, you know. 290 00:11:43,068 --> 00:11:44,868 Speaker 5: For example, if you you know, say Peyton got hurt 291 00:11:44,868 --> 00:11:46,748 Speaker 5: and we had a second stream coming in, like, ah man, 292 00:11:46,948 --> 00:11:48,428 Speaker 5: we need to make sure we're doing well, like we 293 00:11:48,428 --> 00:11:50,388 Speaker 5: can't keep messing up. We're down fourteen points. We can't 294 00:11:50,388 --> 00:11:52,148 Speaker 5: give up any more points. If you have a guy 295 00:11:52,148 --> 00:11:53,708 Speaker 5: like paying like, okay, cool, let's keep it closed. You 296 00:11:53,748 --> 00:11:54,948 Speaker 5: know that's the sheriff. He's going to come in and 297 00:11:54,948 --> 00:11:57,308 Speaker 5: do his thing. But yeah, to be able to I 298 00:11:57,348 --> 00:11:58,908 Speaker 5: think you're just worry about your side of the ball. 299 00:11:58,988 --> 00:11:59,468 Speaker 7: You know what I mean. 300 00:11:59,468 --> 00:12:00,828 Speaker 5: You go out there and you say, kay Kodle, We're 301 00:12:00,828 --> 00:12:02,428 Speaker 5: gonna try to be the number one defense. Try to 302 00:12:02,428 --> 00:12:04,268 Speaker 5: be a great defense, try to be a cohesive unit, 303 00:12:04,588 --> 00:12:06,268 Speaker 5: and no matter what that side of the ball does, 304 00:12:06,308 --> 00:12:07,908 Speaker 5: we're going to make sure we go out there and 305 00:12:07,948 --> 00:12:09,788 Speaker 5: not let them score. I think our goal was like 306 00:12:09,828 --> 00:12:12,468 Speaker 5: ten points, control what you can controtrol what you can control, 307 00:12:12,508 --> 00:12:13,748 Speaker 5: and I think that's what we were able to be 308 00:12:13,788 --> 00:12:16,268 Speaker 5: good at. I think coach Wade Phillips from the DC 309 00:12:16,388 --> 00:12:18,828 Speaker 5: and every other coach down to the players, we understood 310 00:12:18,828 --> 00:12:20,188 Speaker 5: what we had to do. And I think it was 311 00:12:20,188 --> 00:12:22,268 Speaker 5: fair to say we all knew that was Peyton's like 312 00:12:22,348 --> 00:12:23,908 Speaker 5: Kobe moment. You know, we knew what it was his 313 00:12:24,028 --> 00:12:25,228 Speaker 5: last And I think that's why a lot of guys 314 00:12:25,268 --> 00:12:27,548 Speaker 5: went up there and really watched them, and we're just saying, wow, 315 00:12:27,588 --> 00:12:30,308 Speaker 5: I've seen him play and live, you know what I'm saying. 316 00:12:30,388 --> 00:12:31,948 Speaker 5: So we just went out there and did our thing, 317 00:12:31,948 --> 00:12:34,068 Speaker 5: and it was something that you just don't worry about, 318 00:12:34,148 --> 00:12:36,428 Speaker 5: you know, you just you just understand that their men too, 319 00:12:36,468 --> 00:12:38,268 Speaker 5: and they got problems and if we're messing up, they 320 00:12:38,308 --> 00:12:39,908 Speaker 5: better not come over here and start talking to us, 321 00:12:39,988 --> 00:12:41,668 Speaker 5: so you know, you just let them do their thing. 322 00:12:41,748 --> 00:12:43,548 Speaker 2: I think it also just shows how quickly things can 323 00:12:43,628 --> 00:12:45,268 Speaker 2: change in the NFL, because what was the conversation a 324 00:12:45,348 --> 00:12:48,028 Speaker 2: year ago about the Jets, I mean just completely entirely 325 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:50,108 Speaker 2: different and like you just flip the page and like, 326 00:12:50,108 --> 00:12:53,148 Speaker 2: look what we're looking at this year. Still come on, GMFB, 327 00:12:53,428 --> 00:12:57,828 Speaker 2: can lines Junior Gibbs become the league's most versatile running back. 328 00:12:57,868 --> 00:12:59,668 Speaker 4: We're going to be our thoughts later on. 329 00:12:59,748 --> 00:13:03,788 Speaker 8: Bus which legendary linebackers did Jalen Smith grow up idolizing? 330 00:13:04,428 --> 00:13:35,628 Speaker 10: Showing Blitz Next. 331 00:13:21,948 --> 00:13:24,348 Speaker 2: We've got Pro Bowl linebacker Jalen Smith with us in 332 00:13:24,428 --> 00:13:26,668 Speaker 2: studio today, so we thought we'd get his thoughts on 333 00:13:26,788 --> 00:13:30,268 Speaker 2: all things linebacker in a new segment called Showing Blitz. 334 00:13:30,668 --> 00:13:33,028 Speaker 2: All week, we have been talking about underrated players in 335 00:13:33,028 --> 00:13:35,988 Speaker 2: the league, so this is your opportunity to shine the 336 00:13:36,028 --> 00:13:40,028 Speaker 2: spotlight on a current linebacker that deserves more respect. 337 00:13:40,228 --> 00:13:40,668 Speaker 4: Who is it? 338 00:13:41,988 --> 00:13:45,788 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Devondre Campbell, number fifty nine for 339 00:13:45,828 --> 00:13:46,948 Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers. 340 00:13:47,708 --> 00:13:49,628 Speaker 7: A guy who's been through the battle. 341 00:13:49,668 --> 00:13:55,188 Speaker 3: He's been through injuries, he's been through adversity, challenges, being 342 00:13:55,708 --> 00:13:59,348 Speaker 3: cut released. He's a guy that is long, he's agile, 343 00:13:59,428 --> 00:14:03,308 Speaker 3: but he's a true quarterback of the defense. I love 344 00:14:03,388 --> 00:14:06,108 Speaker 3: him and I'm proud of him, and he's continuing to go. 345 00:14:06,228 --> 00:14:07,468 Speaker 4: What do you love most about him? 346 00:14:07,908 --> 00:14:09,148 Speaker 7: I just love his range. 347 00:14:09,268 --> 00:14:11,148 Speaker 3: I love how he's always in the right place at 348 00:14:11,148 --> 00:14:13,828 Speaker 3: the right time, and he makes plays. I think about 349 00:14:14,508 --> 00:14:18,548 Speaker 3: a clip last year where he took an interception to 350 00:14:18,628 --> 00:14:23,148 Speaker 3: the crib. It was about sixty yards, and I really 351 00:14:23,188 --> 00:14:26,108 Speaker 3: love seeing him go. He battled some injuries last year 352 00:14:26,108 --> 00:14:27,948 Speaker 3: and things like that, so looking forward to him getting 353 00:14:27,948 --> 00:14:30,988 Speaker 3: back on that field and leading that Packers defense. They 354 00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:33,388 Speaker 3: had a lot of injuries last year, so just looking 355 00:14:33,428 --> 00:14:34,268 Speaker 3: forward to see what they can. 356 00:14:34,268 --> 00:14:34,708 Speaker 7: Do this year. 357 00:14:34,788 --> 00:14:37,268 Speaker 4: So Devandre, we're giving you love this morning. 358 00:14:37,388 --> 00:14:39,908 Speaker 2: As kids, all of us had players that we could 359 00:14:39,948 --> 00:14:41,428 Speaker 2: not wait to watch on Sunday. 360 00:14:41,468 --> 00:14:45,028 Speaker 4: Who was your favorite linebacker to watch growing up? Man? 361 00:14:47,108 --> 00:14:49,628 Speaker 7: Okay, so out of I'll choose too. I'll say Ray 362 00:14:49,708 --> 00:14:52,348 Speaker 7: Lewis and Mike Brabil, Sugar Ray. 363 00:14:53,708 --> 00:14:58,428 Speaker 3: My cousin Eugene Parker rest in Peace, did a lot 364 00:14:58,428 --> 00:15:00,948 Speaker 3: of works with ray Lewis on him coming out of 365 00:15:00,988 --> 00:15:04,188 Speaker 3: Miami and things like that, and just understanding his tenacity, 366 00:15:04,228 --> 00:15:07,828 Speaker 3: his passion that he plays with. He was always phenomenal 367 00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:11,428 Speaker 3: in his leadership, in his voice and leading from the pack. 368 00:15:11,548 --> 00:15:13,348 Speaker 7: You know, the speed of the leaders, the speed of 369 00:15:13,348 --> 00:15:13,668 Speaker 7: the pack. 370 00:15:14,388 --> 00:15:18,428 Speaker 3: So I really enjoyed watching ray Lewis dominate Defensive Player 371 00:15:18,428 --> 00:15:22,548 Speaker 3: of the Year defensive MVP in the Super Bowl. I 372 00:15:22,588 --> 00:15:24,308 Speaker 3: love the fact that he went out the right way. 373 00:15:24,988 --> 00:15:26,748 Speaker 3: And if you talk about Mike Brabel, Mike Rabel was 374 00:15:26,748 --> 00:15:28,228 Speaker 3: actually my favorite player growing up. 375 00:15:28,308 --> 00:15:29,348 Speaker 7: Him and Clinton Portis. 376 00:15:29,748 --> 00:15:32,548 Speaker 3: I grew up a Patriots fan from the from the 377 00:15:32,548 --> 00:15:34,748 Speaker 3: Hoosier State, from Indiana, but I was a group of 378 00:15:34,748 --> 00:15:35,948 Speaker 3: Patriots fan Mike Brabel. 379 00:15:35,948 --> 00:15:36,948 Speaker 7: He's very versatile. 380 00:15:36,988 --> 00:15:41,388 Speaker 3: He actually caught touchdowns as well, so that's a unique 381 00:15:41,388 --> 00:15:42,828 Speaker 3: thing that I loved about Mike Brabell. 382 00:15:42,988 --> 00:15:46,188 Speaker 4: And just Clinton Portis just there as another favorite. 383 00:15:46,308 --> 00:15:49,188 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, he's a guy that was just verse I 384 00:15:49,188 --> 00:15:54,308 Speaker 3: grew I'm a running back at heart. Every guy was, 385 00:15:55,268 --> 00:15:58,228 Speaker 3: so I played three years with my older brother Rod 386 00:15:58,268 --> 00:16:01,668 Speaker 3: Smith for the Dallas Cowboys, together on our dad's favorite team, 387 00:16:02,308 --> 00:16:05,788 Speaker 3: and I just chose to to go the the defensive route. 388 00:16:06,028 --> 00:16:07,948 Speaker 3: I figured I'd be able to play a little bit longer. 389 00:16:08,108 --> 00:16:10,668 Speaker 3: I'd rather initiate the hit than than to get hit. 390 00:16:11,228 --> 00:16:12,988 Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out to Clint Forts. 391 00:16:13,068 --> 00:16:17,268 Speaker 2: Sure I covered Clinton Portis in Washington. Very entertaining human being. 392 00:16:17,748 --> 00:16:21,388 Speaker 2: The linebacker position has had its fair share of terrifying 393 00:16:21,428 --> 00:16:23,508 Speaker 2: players over the years. What do you think is the 394 00:16:23,508 --> 00:16:27,788 Speaker 2: most intimidating linebacker in NFL history? I mean, Ray would 395 00:16:27,788 --> 00:16:28,428 Speaker 2: have to be up there. 396 00:16:28,508 --> 00:16:31,908 Speaker 3: Ray is up there for sure. Mike Singletary is up there. 397 00:16:32,388 --> 00:16:36,028 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Dick Buckets. Oh, I'm in school, 398 00:16:36,108 --> 00:16:39,388 Speaker 3: old school Dick Buckets. He was ferocious in his play, 399 00:16:40,828 --> 00:16:45,148 Speaker 3: in his power, in the way he hit. He'd hurt 400 00:16:45,228 --> 00:16:48,508 Speaker 3: himself after the game on purpose. I'm a two time 401 00:16:48,828 --> 00:16:51,548 Speaker 3: Dick Buckets Award winner and high school and in college. 402 00:16:51,588 --> 00:16:54,428 Speaker 3: So much respect to him and his family and everything 403 00:16:54,468 --> 00:16:59,708 Speaker 3: that's he's had a chance to accomplish. Any linebacker respects 404 00:16:59,708 --> 00:17:01,188 Speaker 3: the way that Dick Buckets played the game. 405 00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:02,268 Speaker 4: Sure, we love that. 406 00:17:02,748 --> 00:17:06,028 Speaker 2: This is random, but today is con McGregor's thirty fifth birthday. 407 00:17:06,268 --> 00:17:09,388 Speaker 2: He's arguably one of the greatest fighters in UFC history. 408 00:17:09,668 --> 00:17:12,868 Speaker 2: So which linebacker pastor present would you most want to 409 00:17:12,908 --> 00:17:16,108 Speaker 2: see in a UFC main event match? 410 00:17:17,068 --> 00:17:19,108 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm gonna go. 411 00:17:19,068 --> 00:17:21,068 Speaker 4: With still off topic here, I'm gonna go with some. 412 00:17:21,108 --> 00:17:24,188 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with somebody that most most fans may 413 00:17:24,228 --> 00:17:29,428 Speaker 3: not know about. Willy Lanier, Kansas City Chief number sixty eight, 414 00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:32,948 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, Super Bowl Champion. He's a guy that 415 00:17:33,588 --> 00:17:36,188 Speaker 3: was not only was he all the ways around the ball, 416 00:17:36,228 --> 00:17:39,068 Speaker 3: but he led the team with his short style, with 417 00:17:39,148 --> 00:17:41,548 Speaker 3: his short height. He was a guy that was able 418 00:17:41,588 --> 00:17:43,948 Speaker 3: to really get guys on the ground, tackle him by 419 00:17:43,988 --> 00:17:47,668 Speaker 3: the waist at any place, at any time. If Willy 420 00:17:47,748 --> 00:17:49,468 Speaker 3: was near, he was gonna get you down. So I 421 00:17:49,468 --> 00:17:52,948 Speaker 3: would love to see him in a UFC match gripping 422 00:17:52,988 --> 00:17:53,508 Speaker 3: and grappling. 423 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:55,788 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure that he would want to do that. 424 00:17:55,868 --> 00:17:59,388 Speaker 2: But there's a long history of former linebackers that have 425 00:17:59,468 --> 00:18:03,068 Speaker 2: gone on to become NFL coaches. You even reference one 426 00:18:03,068 --> 00:18:04,868 Speaker 2: of them in Mike Rabel, Mike Single, Harry Chuck. 427 00:18:04,908 --> 00:18:06,468 Speaker 4: No, the list goes on and on. I don't know 428 00:18:06,508 --> 00:18:07,748 Speaker 4: what that says. About you guys. You guys are just 429 00:18:07,788 --> 00:18:08,908 Speaker 4: a really smart unit. 430 00:18:08,948 --> 00:18:09,188 Speaker 7: There. 431 00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:12,348 Speaker 2: Which current linebacker do you think would make the best 432 00:18:12,388 --> 00:18:12,868 Speaker 2: head coach? 433 00:18:13,708 --> 00:18:18,908 Speaker 3: Linebackers, specifically, middle linebackers are quarterbacks. 434 00:18:18,228 --> 00:18:18,948 Speaker 7: Of the defense. 435 00:18:19,868 --> 00:18:23,668 Speaker 3: Everything runs through us. We have to know what the 436 00:18:23,668 --> 00:18:25,268 Speaker 3: front seven is doing. We have to know what the 437 00:18:25,308 --> 00:18:28,148 Speaker 3: back seven is doing. And at any given point, as 438 00:18:28,188 --> 00:18:30,108 Speaker 3: if we call in the plays, if somebody doesn't know 439 00:18:30,148 --> 00:18:31,548 Speaker 3: what's going on, we got to let them know. 440 00:18:31,628 --> 00:18:32,668 Speaker 6: I would choose myself. 441 00:18:32,748 --> 00:18:34,468 Speaker 7: I'm going as a year eight coach. 442 00:18:34,508 --> 00:18:38,508 Speaker 2: Smith like, look, we told the last that he can, 443 00:18:38,708 --> 00:18:41,468 Speaker 2: you know, leave it open and recalls. You want to 444 00:18:41,468 --> 00:18:44,428 Speaker 2: make announced so you're available for head coaching opportunities, go 445 00:18:44,508 --> 00:18:45,068 Speaker 2: right ahead. 446 00:18:45,268 --> 00:18:48,348 Speaker 3: You know much about being You know a head coach 447 00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:53,268 Speaker 3: is relationship oriented, and you know I understand that we're 448 00:18:53,308 --> 00:18:56,468 Speaker 3: relational creatures. And you know that's one of my gifts 449 00:18:56,508 --> 00:18:59,628 Speaker 3: is building, growing, nurturing relationships. So I feel like that, 450 00:18:59,828 --> 00:19:01,748 Speaker 3: along with my love and passion for the game, I 451 00:19:01,748 --> 00:19:03,108 Speaker 3: feel like I'd be able to. 452 00:19:02,868 --> 00:19:03,708 Speaker 7: Be able to do something. 453 00:19:03,748 --> 00:19:05,868 Speaker 2: I got a question for you. Let's say you're in 454 00:19:05,948 --> 00:19:08,828 Speaker 2: year two of coaching a team. What are the players 455 00:19:08,828 --> 00:19:10,148 Speaker 2: saying about Jalen Smith? 456 00:19:10,348 --> 00:19:12,188 Speaker 4: Like behind your back. How do they describe you? 457 00:19:12,468 --> 00:19:13,708 Speaker 7: Why is he on my ass? 458 00:19:14,228 --> 00:19:14,508 Speaker 4: For what? 459 00:19:15,388 --> 00:19:15,948 Speaker 7: But for two? 460 00:19:16,148 --> 00:19:18,828 Speaker 3: Just understanding that he you know I, I would be 461 00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:21,548 Speaker 3: a I would be a coach that guys would want 462 00:19:21,588 --> 00:19:23,428 Speaker 3: to play for and want and would want to battle for. 463 00:19:23,628 --> 00:19:26,428 Speaker 3: You know you hear so so many great things about. 464 00:19:26,108 --> 00:19:27,468 Speaker 7: The Mike Tobmans of the world. 465 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:30,508 Speaker 3: And just understanding that he truly cares, that Andy rees 466 00:19:30,548 --> 00:19:31,628 Speaker 3: the big reds of the world. 467 00:19:31,668 --> 00:19:34,108 Speaker 7: And as a as a k as a coach, you. 468 00:19:34,068 --> 00:19:36,268 Speaker 3: Know you, you would like to mimic you know those 469 00:19:36,308 --> 00:19:37,148 Speaker 3: type of guys for sure. 470 00:19:37,308 --> 00:19:39,388 Speaker 4: Tomlin's a good guy to mimic. What do you got guys? 471 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:40,308 Speaker 4: What do you got on this list? 472 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:43,908 Speaker 8: So so, Jalen, I'm very intrigued about Coach Smith. If 473 00:19:43,948 --> 00:19:48,068 Speaker 8: you could motivate me. I I'm your player. I've been 474 00:19:48,108 --> 00:19:50,228 Speaker 8: struggling for a little bit. Can I get a fifteen 475 00:19:50,268 --> 00:19:52,988 Speaker 8: to twenty second motivation that helped me play better in 476 00:19:53,028 --> 00:19:53,748 Speaker 8: this fourth quarter? 477 00:19:54,188 --> 00:19:56,708 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I gotta understand how you learn. 478 00:19:57,468 --> 00:19:59,388 Speaker 3: Are you a visual learner? Are you a guy that 479 00:19:59,428 --> 00:20:01,548 Speaker 3: I can get in your tail? Are you a guy 480 00:20:01,548 --> 00:20:03,268 Speaker 3: that I gotta pull pull you off to the side 481 00:20:03,308 --> 00:20:04,708 Speaker 3: and be able to speak talk to me. 482 00:20:04,748 --> 00:20:06,228 Speaker 6: I'm thick skin. I can expend. 483 00:20:06,348 --> 00:20:06,948 Speaker 7: You can handle it. 484 00:20:07,028 --> 00:20:09,028 Speaker 6: Hit me all, handle it all, I can handle it. 485 00:20:09,388 --> 00:20:14,348 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, listen, this is all I want you to do. 486 00:20:14,428 --> 00:20:16,548 Speaker 3: I just want you to look in the mirror and 487 00:20:16,668 --> 00:20:18,708 Speaker 3: understand that you've been playing this game since you were 488 00:20:18,708 --> 00:20:19,708 Speaker 3: seven years old. 489 00:20:20,308 --> 00:20:21,028 Speaker 5: Make it happen. 490 00:20:21,388 --> 00:20:25,068 Speaker 7: Who are you planning for? Who believes in you? Understand 491 00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:27,628 Speaker 7: your belief capacity, and go out and do it. 492 00:20:27,788 --> 00:20:29,308 Speaker 6: Let's go. I'm ready to run through a wall. 493 00:20:30,508 --> 00:20:33,348 Speaker 5: I think my question for you is, as a Fridgan 494 00:20:33,428 --> 00:20:35,108 Speaker 5: coming in, I would actually, hey, coach, are you more 495 00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:36,948 Speaker 5: of a player's coach? Are you more of a my 496 00:20:36,988 --> 00:20:39,348 Speaker 5: way or the highway kind of guy? What's what would 497 00:20:39,388 --> 00:20:39,988 Speaker 5: be your answer? 498 00:20:40,188 --> 00:20:43,788 Speaker 3: I would say, I'm a player's coach, But everyone would 499 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:45,108 Speaker 3: need to understand the mission. 500 00:20:45,188 --> 00:20:48,908 Speaker 7: And that goes from the staff to the cleaning lady. 501 00:20:48,828 --> 00:20:53,228 Speaker 3: To the star player to the special teams guy who's 502 00:20:53,308 --> 00:20:55,708 Speaker 3: never gonna see the field. We got to understand what 503 00:20:55,748 --> 00:20:57,668 Speaker 3: we want to accomplish and what we want and where 504 00:20:57,668 --> 00:20:59,268 Speaker 3: we want to go, and we all have to sign 505 00:20:59,348 --> 00:20:59,708 Speaker 3: on that. 506 00:20:59,988 --> 00:21:01,828 Speaker 5: Coach. I want Wednesdays off, You. 507 00:21:01,788 --> 00:21:04,028 Speaker 7: Want Wednesday off. You're not gonna give Wednesdays off. 508 00:21:05,068 --> 00:21:08,028 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I promise if, especially if you're a vet, 509 00:21:08,508 --> 00:21:10,548 Speaker 3: we gonna have Vet days in there. Okay, I'm going 510 00:21:10,588 --> 00:21:13,468 Speaker 3: into year eight, so okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna need 511 00:21:13,508 --> 00:21:13,908 Speaker 3: a love. 512 00:21:13,828 --> 00:21:16,108 Speaker 4: Vet day Aalen Smith. 513 00:21:16,148 --> 00:21:20,028 Speaker 2: Everyone available for higher sometime in the future. 514 00:21:21,148 --> 00:21:22,508 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Good Morning Football. 515 00:21:22,548 --> 00:21:25,508 Speaker 2: The Lions selected running back Jamior Gibbs with the twelfth 516 00:21:25,508 --> 00:21:28,908 Speaker 2: overall pick in twenty twenty three draft Detroit, hoping he 517 00:21:28,948 --> 00:21:31,668 Speaker 2: can be an explosive addition to their backfield. 518 00:21:31,948 --> 00:21:35,148 Speaker 4: Lions GM Brad Holmes had high praise for Gibbs when 519 00:21:35,188 --> 00:21:39,428 Speaker 4: he joined this season. With Peter Schrager, I've firt of 520 00:21:39,468 --> 00:21:40,348 Speaker 4: fell in love with him. 521 00:21:40,428 --> 00:21:43,468 Speaker 11: Obviously, I didn't know about him that much when he 522 00:21:43,508 --> 00:21:46,268 Speaker 11: was at Georgia Tech a year before. So I went 523 00:21:46,308 --> 00:21:48,788 Speaker 11: to that Texas Alabama game earlier in the year and 524 00:21:48,948 --> 00:21:51,948 Speaker 11: I saw his body typing likens. I was intriguing, and 525 00:21:51,948 --> 00:21:53,868 Speaker 11: then I kind of saw what he was doing in 526 00:21:53,948 --> 00:21:56,548 Speaker 11: both phases. Yeah, I mean he can run it, but 527 00:21:56,708 --> 00:21:59,388 Speaker 11: when he was doing as a receiver, of the explosiveness 528 00:21:59,388 --> 00:22:02,308 Speaker 11: and everything about him. Then we just kept doing work 529 00:22:02,348 --> 00:22:04,068 Speaker 11: on him and like I said, kind of do some 530 00:22:04,148 --> 00:22:07,428 Speaker 11: draft prep during the season and kept doing work on them, 531 00:22:07,468 --> 00:22:09,628 Speaker 11: and that was just kind of it for me. I 532 00:22:09,668 --> 00:22:13,988 Speaker 11: was like, this guy's and he's a weapon. He's a weapon. 533 00:22:14,068 --> 00:22:17,548 Speaker 11: And you know we talk about all the running backs 534 00:22:17,708 --> 00:22:20,308 Speaker 11: going in the first round and all that kind of stuff. 535 00:22:20,388 --> 00:22:23,948 Speaker 11: I always say, like, if he's a weapon, then forget 536 00:22:23,988 --> 00:22:24,948 Speaker 11: the RB. 537 00:22:25,788 --> 00:22:30,348 Speaker 12: Positionless like that's how that's what he is, Like, that's 538 00:22:30,388 --> 00:22:33,828 Speaker 12: like he we thought he was a multi phase elite 539 00:22:33,948 --> 00:22:35,908 Speaker 12: explosive positionless weapon. 540 00:22:37,228 --> 00:22:40,188 Speaker 4: It's good to see shrikes who is off this week? Hi, Peter. 541 00:22:40,308 --> 00:22:43,028 Speaker 2: It was funny when you heard him say forget the RB, 542 00:22:43,148 --> 00:22:45,508 Speaker 2: because I'm sure there's some running backs out there right now. 543 00:22:45,548 --> 00:22:47,308 Speaker 4: That would love to be like, yeah, forget the RB. 544 00:22:47,388 --> 00:22:50,148 Speaker 2: Don't pay me as an RB, because they pay me 545 00:22:50,148 --> 00:22:52,548 Speaker 2: as the weapon that I can be. So tell me 546 00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:55,788 Speaker 2: the player that you faced who you would describe as 547 00:22:56,148 --> 00:22:59,108 Speaker 2: multi phase elite positionless weapon. 548 00:22:59,148 --> 00:23:00,588 Speaker 4: Those are some of the words that they were using. 549 00:23:00,708 --> 00:23:03,148 Speaker 3: I didn't face them, but I'm a true steward and 550 00:23:03,188 --> 00:23:07,188 Speaker 3: fan of the game. And Percy Harvin was so electrifying 551 00:23:07,468 --> 00:23:09,868 Speaker 3: just the way he moved with the ball. It was 552 00:23:10,028 --> 00:23:13,828 Speaker 3: like poetry. He had a short, short career, but he 553 00:23:13,948 --> 00:23:15,708 Speaker 3: was a big play guy. He was missed, a big 554 00:23:15,748 --> 00:23:20,068 Speaker 3: play guy. If you think about the twenty fourteen twenty 555 00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:22,588 Speaker 3: fifteen Seattle Seahawks going to the Super Bowl. In the 556 00:23:22,628 --> 00:23:26,028 Speaker 3: second half of the game opening up, he had an 557 00:23:26,068 --> 00:23:29,028 Speaker 3: eighty seven yard kickoff return for a touchdown. 558 00:23:29,268 --> 00:23:31,908 Speaker 7: And he practically took the whole year off trying to 559 00:23:31,908 --> 00:23:32,548 Speaker 7: heal his body. 560 00:23:32,868 --> 00:23:35,828 Speaker 3: So a guy who was battle tested but could never 561 00:23:36,188 --> 00:23:37,188 Speaker 3: stay on the field. 562 00:23:37,188 --> 00:23:38,948 Speaker 7: But when he was on that field, boy, he was 563 00:23:38,948 --> 00:23:39,428 Speaker 7: a problem. 564 00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:40,388 Speaker 6: Human highlight reel. 565 00:23:40,388 --> 00:23:42,028 Speaker 8: If you want to have some fun, pull up Percy 566 00:23:42,028 --> 00:23:43,468 Speaker 8: Harvin's college tape. 567 00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:48,228 Speaker 2: It isld that up a couple times, several times Wednesday night, Yes, yes, 568 00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:48,868 Speaker 2: late nights. 569 00:23:48,868 --> 00:23:51,028 Speaker 6: You just want to watch some ball, you know, Percy hard. 570 00:23:50,828 --> 00:23:51,348 Speaker 4: Who do you got? 571 00:23:51,588 --> 00:23:53,908 Speaker 5: My pick is the guy from another California kid, San 572 00:23:53,908 --> 00:23:56,508 Speaker 5: Diego State guy Ronnie Hillman. I gotta go with. Ronnie 573 00:23:56,548 --> 00:23:59,268 Speaker 5: Hillman had a nineteen hundred career rushing yards, five hundred 574 00:23:59,308 --> 00:24:02,148 Speaker 5: and two, five hundred and twenty four career receiving yards, 575 00:24:02,348 --> 00:24:05,148 Speaker 5: three seasons with one hundred plus receiving yards. This guy 576 00:24:05,228 --> 00:24:08,068 Speaker 5: was really explosive about the back, really versatile. Like I said, 577 00:24:08,108 --> 00:24:09,668 Speaker 5: didn't play against them, but play with them. So H'm 578 00:24:09,668 --> 00:24:12,148 Speaker 5: in practice every day, so how hard he worked. This 579 00:24:12,188 --> 00:24:14,428 Speaker 5: guy really took it serious. And I believe he was 580 00:24:14,428 --> 00:24:16,228 Speaker 5: the youngest player in the league at his time out 581 00:24:16,268 --> 00:24:17,708 Speaker 5: there doing this thing. So it was one of those 582 00:24:17,748 --> 00:24:20,188 Speaker 5: things that this guy was really, really a beast and 583 00:24:20,388 --> 00:24:21,828 Speaker 5: really a threat out the backfield. 584 00:24:22,948 --> 00:24:26,628 Speaker 2: I would go, I realized that I did this wrong 585 00:24:26,708 --> 00:24:28,868 Speaker 2: because I have a player and it really could have 586 00:24:28,908 --> 00:24:31,428 Speaker 2: been two different players. Although I think Cam you might 587 00:24:31,468 --> 00:24:33,948 Speaker 2: have my back on this, I'm not sure Deebo Samuel 588 00:24:34,068 --> 00:24:35,428 Speaker 2: with the Niners, which I was going to say, you 589 00:24:35,428 --> 00:24:40,268 Speaker 2: could make that a debot Christian Combo, but Deebo Samuel, look, 590 00:24:40,348 --> 00:24:43,308 Speaker 2: when this guy is healthy, I don't know how you 591 00:24:43,428 --> 00:24:45,908 Speaker 2: prepare to defend him because he can do just about everything. 592 00:24:45,948 --> 00:24:50,068 Speaker 2: He is so problematic for teams, running through them, cutting, 593 00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:54,108 Speaker 2: taking the short passes, and then I mean, you see 594 00:24:54,108 --> 00:24:54,788 Speaker 2: what he's doing right there. 595 00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:57,308 Speaker 4: To the Seahawks. He had cam string. 596 00:24:57,348 --> 00:25:00,188 Speaker 2: He had ankle injuries last year. His numbers were down 597 00:25:00,228 --> 00:25:02,428 Speaker 2: a little bit. That caused him to say he had 598 00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:04,308 Speaker 2: an awful season. I mean a lot of people would 599 00:25:04,308 --> 00:25:06,428 Speaker 2: have taking what he considers an awful season. But you 600 00:25:06,468 --> 00:25:08,268 Speaker 2: hear that out of Debo and you think, Okay, well, 601 00:25:08,268 --> 00:25:11,788 Speaker 2: this guy is motivated, he's angry, and he's ready to 602 00:25:11,948 --> 00:25:14,188 Speaker 2: return to the kind of season he had the year before, 603 00:25:14,228 --> 00:25:17,828 Speaker 2: which was nearly eighteen hundred all purpose yards. So you 604 00:25:17,868 --> 00:25:19,828 Speaker 2: think he's happy to rest on what he's done. 605 00:25:19,908 --> 00:25:19,988 Speaker 7: Not. 606 00:25:20,028 --> 00:25:22,668 Speaker 2: If you've heard any of Deebo's press conferences this year, 607 00:25:22,828 --> 00:25:23,628 Speaker 2: he's fired up. 608 00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:24,588 Speaker 4: He's ready to return. 609 00:25:24,668 --> 00:25:25,068 Speaker 6: Yeah, Deebo. 610 00:25:25,108 --> 00:25:27,828 Speaker 8: Samuel nicknamed himself wide back. The guy you mentioned, Christian 611 00:25:27,908 --> 00:25:31,228 Speaker 8: McCaffrey is essentially the quintessential multi positional player. But I'm 612 00:25:31,228 --> 00:25:33,028 Speaker 8: going to actually switch it up. I'm going to go 613 00:25:33,108 --> 00:25:35,428 Speaker 8: with a guy who you may better know as a linebacker, 614 00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:38,508 Speaker 8: a guy who is now a coach. But don't forget 615 00:25:38,588 --> 00:25:43,428 Speaker 8: the offensive weapon, Mike Vrabel. He had ten offensive touchdowns 616 00:25:43,588 --> 00:25:46,028 Speaker 8: as a player. Jalen Smith mentioned him as his favorite 617 00:25:46,068 --> 00:25:48,388 Speaker 8: player growing up. He was a Super Bowl legend. When 618 00:25:48,388 --> 00:25:49,788 Speaker 8: he came to getting the ball, he turned into a 619 00:25:49,828 --> 00:25:52,828 Speaker 8: tight end. He had eleven interceptions, including a pick six, 620 00:25:53,068 --> 00:25:54,748 Speaker 8: but I love when he caught the ball. 621 00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:56,588 Speaker 6: See the number fifty and the end zone. 622 00:25:56,668 --> 00:25:59,668 Speaker 8: That's what I think of as a multi positional player. 623 00:25:59,868 --> 00:26:02,268 Speaker 8: You can sack, you can tackle, but you can also 624 00:26:02,588 --> 00:26:03,348 Speaker 8: make them plays. 625 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:20,108 Speaker 13: Were about Patrick Mahomes and coming up mixing. 626 00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:25,388 Speaker 2: Recently, Eagles tight end Dallas Goddard took issue with top 627 00:26:25,468 --> 00:26:29,308 Speaker 2: five quarterback lists in general that omit Jalen Hurts, saying, quote, 628 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,348 Speaker 2: he's a dog, He's really good. 629 00:26:31,468 --> 00:26:34,988 Speaker 4: I think he should be top three, top two. It's 630 00:26:34,988 --> 00:26:37,468 Speaker 4: hard to take anything away from Patrick Mahomes. 631 00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:37,668 Speaker 1: Now. 632 00:26:37,668 --> 00:26:41,508 Speaker 2: He went on to add, personally speaking, Jalen is in 633 00:26:41,628 --> 00:26:44,548 Speaker 2: the top two. I guess we should not be surprised 634 00:26:44,588 --> 00:26:47,308 Speaker 2: when a tight end is coming to his quarterbacks defense. 635 00:26:47,348 --> 00:26:50,548 Speaker 4: Of course he should. But does he have a point here? 636 00:26:50,628 --> 00:26:52,548 Speaker 2: There were plenty of folks, and not just in Philly 637 00:26:52,588 --> 00:26:55,348 Speaker 2: saying that Hirst was on his way to an MVP 638 00:26:55,548 --> 00:26:56,508 Speaker 2: before having to take. 639 00:26:56,388 --> 00:26:57,988 Speaker 4: Two games off late in the season. 640 00:26:58,388 --> 00:27:00,748 Speaker 2: So we ask you, guys, this is Jalen Hurts, the 641 00:27:00,988 --> 00:27:03,868 Speaker 2: second best quarterback in the NFL right now? 642 00:27:04,468 --> 00:27:05,028 Speaker 4: Kick us off? 643 00:27:07,348 --> 00:27:09,668 Speaker 7: You know, from a guy that has the same name 644 00:27:09,748 --> 00:27:12,588 Speaker 7: as I do. I mean, I love him me personally. 645 00:27:12,668 --> 00:27:15,588 Speaker 3: I didn't like the whooping that they put on us 646 00:27:15,668 --> 00:27:18,988 Speaker 3: last year to take us out of the playoffs. 647 00:27:19,028 --> 00:27:23,308 Speaker 7: But he's a phenomenal player. I would say, I would 648 00:27:23,388 --> 00:27:25,788 Speaker 7: say he's three or four for sure. 649 00:27:25,948 --> 00:27:28,428 Speaker 3: So I would say I would say he's three or 650 00:27:28,428 --> 00:27:30,388 Speaker 3: for sure, I would say he's three or four. I 651 00:27:30,428 --> 00:27:34,348 Speaker 3: know Aaron Rodgers didn't have the year that he usually does, 652 00:27:35,148 --> 00:27:36,508 Speaker 3: but he's still phenomenal. 653 00:27:37,188 --> 00:27:40,828 Speaker 7: Justin Herbert's coming up. Trevor Lawrence is legit. 654 00:27:41,068 --> 00:27:44,628 Speaker 3: But Jalen Hursts you can't deny what he accomplished last 655 00:27:44,708 --> 00:27:47,908 Speaker 3: year and the big payday that he got as well. 656 00:27:47,988 --> 00:27:50,268 Speaker 7: So I love him, but I would put him at 657 00:27:50,428 --> 00:27:51,028 Speaker 7: three or four. 658 00:27:51,188 --> 00:27:52,868 Speaker 8: So I think he's definitely in the top three. I 659 00:27:52,908 --> 00:27:55,868 Speaker 8: have Patrick Mahomes number one, Joe Burrow probably number two, 660 00:27:55,908 --> 00:27:57,628 Speaker 8: and then you can kind of argue Josh Allen or 661 00:27:57,708 --> 00:28:00,108 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts number three. In my book, let's not forget 662 00:28:00,188 --> 00:28:02,828 Speaker 8: how good Jalen Hurst was in that Super Bowl thirty 663 00:28:02,828 --> 00:28:05,068 Speaker 8: five points the most everybody team in the Super Bowl 664 00:28:05,108 --> 00:28:09,988 Speaker 8: loss three hundred yards, passing seventy yards rushing four total touchdowns. 665 00:28:10,028 --> 00:28:13,628 Speaker 8: I mean, this guy was transcendent. Him and Patrick Mahomes 666 00:28:13,708 --> 00:28:15,948 Speaker 8: were neck to neck, and you could argue Jalen played 667 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:18,148 Speaker 8: just as good, if not better than Patrick Mahomes and 668 00:28:18,148 --> 00:28:20,548 Speaker 8: that Super Bowl it just did not work out their way. 669 00:28:20,588 --> 00:28:22,828 Speaker 8: And one thing that stands out to me about Jalen 670 00:28:22,908 --> 00:28:25,388 Speaker 8: hurts is he takes care of the football. That's what 671 00:28:25,428 --> 00:28:27,508 Speaker 8: I want my quarterbacks to do as they make plays. 672 00:28:27,588 --> 00:28:30,668 Speaker 8: He had just eight turnovers last season, which was by 673 00:28:30,708 --> 00:28:33,228 Speaker 8: far the fewest of all those top quarterbacks. 674 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:34,868 Speaker 6: Josh Allen had nineteen. 675 00:28:35,268 --> 00:28:38,428 Speaker 8: So that's less than half of what Josh Allen had 676 00:28:38,428 --> 00:28:38,948 Speaker 8: in that market. 677 00:28:38,988 --> 00:28:40,388 Speaker 6: So Jalen Hurst is still ascending. 678 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,308 Speaker 8: We've only seen one year of him and so probably 679 00:28:43,308 --> 00:28:46,268 Speaker 8: it's a little early to say he's second overall, but 680 00:28:46,348 --> 00:28:47,428 Speaker 8: we saw what he did. 681 00:28:47,588 --> 00:28:49,588 Speaker 6: This is the turnovers I was just talking about. There 682 00:28:49,708 --> 00:28:50,468 Speaker 6: eight turnovers. 683 00:28:50,468 --> 00:28:52,708 Speaker 8: That's incredible, especially for a guy who runs as much 684 00:28:52,868 --> 00:28:54,908 Speaker 8: as Jalen Hurst does to not turn the ball over. 685 00:28:54,948 --> 00:28:57,708 Speaker 8: He only had six interceptions. Jalen Hurst is coming and 686 00:28:57,748 --> 00:29:00,108 Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if we're back here a year 687 00:29:00,148 --> 00:29:02,868 Speaker 8: from now we're saying Jalen Hurst is the definitive number 688 00:29:02,868 --> 00:29:04,068 Speaker 8: two behind Patrick Mahe. 689 00:29:04,468 --> 00:29:06,908 Speaker 2: The city would say one of those turnovers turned into 690 00:29:06,908 --> 00:29:09,988 Speaker 2: some points for them at the Super Bowl. Malik, You've 691 00:29:09,988 --> 00:29:13,628 Speaker 2: got a great take on this whole topic of conversation. 692 00:29:13,748 --> 00:29:16,188 Speaker 2: When we were in the commercial break and debating whether 693 00:29:16,188 --> 00:29:17,988 Speaker 2: he's forget debating whether he's one or two. 694 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:21,268 Speaker 4: What is your opinion of what Goddard said. 695 00:29:21,548 --> 00:29:23,508 Speaker 5: I think God, I'm making a prediction. I think God 696 00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:26,068 Speaker 5: is going to have zero pass receptions the first game 697 00:29:26,108 --> 00:29:28,508 Speaker 5: of the season. I just think, you know, with the 698 00:29:28,548 --> 00:29:30,268 Speaker 5: comment like that, you know there has to be a 699 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:32,108 Speaker 5: little bit of repercussion. He's still my guy, you know. 700 00:29:32,148 --> 00:29:34,748 Speaker 5: I don't get me wrong. I played in Philadelphia, so 701 00:29:34,988 --> 00:29:37,068 Speaker 5: but that's my thing. I've seen jenner hurst work ethic. 702 00:29:37,148 --> 00:29:38,828 Speaker 5: I've seen when he came in, had to sit down 703 00:29:39,268 --> 00:29:41,788 Speaker 5: behind the starting quarterback Carson Winston, had to learn a 704 00:29:41,828 --> 00:29:43,228 Speaker 5: little bit, and then when he got his chance, he 705 00:29:43,308 --> 00:29:44,948 Speaker 5: killed it. You know. I think he really showed up. 706 00:29:44,988 --> 00:29:47,188 Speaker 5: I think from the statue guys that's talking about. I 707 00:29:47,188 --> 00:29:48,828 Speaker 5: hear the number two talk, but I think he was 708 00:29:48,868 --> 00:29:50,748 Speaker 5: a better quarterback in that game in the Super Bowl. 709 00:29:50,948 --> 00:29:53,748 Speaker 5: And so I mean, I understand the debate. Yes, Mahomes 710 00:29:53,748 --> 00:29:55,668 Speaker 5: has been doing it for a lot longer and more consistent, 711 00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:57,348 Speaker 5: but I think when a young guy comes in, if 712 00:29:57,348 --> 00:29:58,908 Speaker 5: we're just gonna do a year by year by year, 713 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:02,588 Speaker 5: I think he was top two, not number two, you know, 714 00:30:02,668 --> 00:30:04,268 Speaker 5: And I think that he's really going to continue to 715 00:30:04,468 --> 00:30:06,988 Speaker 5: row and continue to shine and climb that ladder. And 716 00:30:07,308 --> 00:30:09,308 Speaker 5: really put his team on the map and be the 717 00:30:09,348 --> 00:30:12,508 Speaker 5: guy that we all know he can be. So Dallas, 718 00:30:13,308 --> 00:30:15,788 Speaker 5: I think it was a bad comment, but I have 719 00:30:15,868 --> 00:30:17,588 Speaker 5: to disagree with you guy. I think he's the best 720 00:30:17,668 --> 00:30:18,508 Speaker 5: quarterback in the league. 721 00:30:18,548 --> 00:30:21,628 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing that I hated Philadelphia Eagles. 722 00:30:21,668 --> 00:30:25,428 Speaker 3: It's fourth and inches, fourth and one, there's no way 723 00:30:25,468 --> 00:30:29,628 Speaker 3: you can stop it. That improves his efficiency tremendously. 724 00:30:30,028 --> 00:30:31,908 Speaker 8: I think Jason Kelsey said ninety two percent of the 725 00:30:31,908 --> 00:30:32,868 Speaker 8: time it was successful. 726 00:30:32,948 --> 00:30:35,428 Speaker 5: Right. Oh my lord, he so annoying. 727 00:30:35,948 --> 00:30:37,948 Speaker 8: I want to go back with you about Jalen because 728 00:30:37,948 --> 00:30:39,788 Speaker 8: you played with him when he was a rookie. I 729 00:30:39,828 --> 00:30:42,268 Speaker 8: know there was the Carson in him situation, but what 730 00:30:42,268 --> 00:30:45,988 Speaker 8: did you see in Jalen in practice that maybe did 731 00:30:45,988 --> 00:30:46,748 Speaker 8: you see this coming? 732 00:30:46,868 --> 00:30:49,348 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I definitely did, But more from practice 733 00:30:49,388 --> 00:30:51,148 Speaker 5: in the locker room, I just saw him being able 734 00:30:51,188 --> 00:30:53,548 Speaker 5: just to take command. He wasn't a look at me 735 00:30:53,628 --> 00:30:55,668 Speaker 5: kind of guy. He wasn't very boastful, you know, even 736 00:30:55,668 --> 00:30:57,348 Speaker 5: though he came in with the high status of who 737 00:30:57,348 --> 00:30:59,668 Speaker 5: he was, just a guy that was quiet, just put it, 738 00:30:59,708 --> 00:31:02,588 Speaker 5: put his head down and really worked. I believe Washington 739 00:31:02,588 --> 00:31:04,908 Speaker 5: he understood hierarchy he understood the situation of coming in 740 00:31:04,908 --> 00:31:07,028 Speaker 5: and having to learn and sit down, but in practice, 741 00:31:07,028 --> 00:31:08,868 Speaker 5: when he got his opportunities, he was out there slinging 742 00:31:08,908 --> 00:31:11,468 Speaker 5: the rock, taking control of the offense, and really showing 743 00:31:11,468 --> 00:31:13,548 Speaker 5: the coaches, hey, this is my team. And I understand 744 00:31:13,708 --> 00:31:16,108 Speaker 5: the position we're in right now with the starting quarterback 745 00:31:16,108 --> 00:31:18,228 Speaker 5: man Carson, but this is going to be my team, 746 00:31:18,228 --> 00:31:20,148 Speaker 5: and I want you guys to recognize this and understand this. 747 00:31:20,228 --> 00:31:21,948 Speaker 5: And so I think he really came in with the 748 00:31:21,988 --> 00:31:24,108 Speaker 5: work ethic of showing them, Hey, let me show you 749 00:31:24,148 --> 00:31:25,868 Speaker 5: who I am. So that way, when you give me 750 00:31:25,908 --> 00:31:28,188 Speaker 5: the keys to the car, you already know who I am. 751 00:31:28,308 --> 00:31:30,908 Speaker 6: So you mentioned just kind of knowing who he is. 752 00:31:31,108 --> 00:31:32,828 Speaker 8: A lot of times you get a rookie quarterback in 753 00:31:32,868 --> 00:31:36,188 Speaker 8: the building, you're eager to see what he is, what 754 00:31:36,268 --> 00:31:38,468 Speaker 8: he does. Was there a moment, I guess that year 755 00:31:38,508 --> 00:31:42,628 Speaker 8: that you remember where Jalen showed you maybe what he 756 00:31:42,668 --> 00:31:43,268 Speaker 8: would become. 757 00:31:43,548 --> 00:31:45,268 Speaker 5: I think it was more off the field, just like 758 00:31:45,428 --> 00:31:47,388 Speaker 5: just being able to talk to him, seeing how grown 759 00:31:47,468 --> 00:31:49,068 Speaker 5: up he was, how responsible he was. You know, you 760 00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:50,988 Speaker 5: say you want those quarterbacks to come in and show 761 00:31:50,988 --> 00:31:53,028 Speaker 5: you all the tangibles of being a leader. Being an 762 00:31:53,028 --> 00:31:54,628 Speaker 5: older guy, you know, I think he was what twenty one, 763 00:31:54,708 --> 00:31:56,668 Speaker 5: twenty two, twenty three when he came in, So being 764 00:31:57,028 --> 00:31:59,188 Speaker 5: a kid coming in, being able to work like an 765 00:31:59,548 --> 00:32:01,948 Speaker 5: older man, like I say, a paying manny or somebody. 766 00:32:01,988 --> 00:32:03,988 Speaker 5: So I saw a lot of those characteristics when I 767 00:32:04,028 --> 00:32:06,428 Speaker 5: met him and just talking to him. So his leadership 768 00:32:06,468 --> 00:32:09,148 Speaker 5: style and skills were just tremendous. And like I said, 769 00:32:09,188 --> 00:32:11,548 Speaker 5: this humbleness, but also it's one of those things where 770 00:32:11,588 --> 00:32:13,508 Speaker 5: you meet somebody and they're very humble, but you feel 771 00:32:13,548 --> 00:32:15,388 Speaker 5: the aura right, You're like, oh, this guy's a dog, 772 00:32:15,548 --> 00:32:17,668 Speaker 5: you know, and he just waited his turn, and now 773 00:32:17,788 --> 00:32:19,308 Speaker 5: I'm happy for others he's getting. 774 00:32:19,468 --> 00:32:22,308 Speaker 2: He's really done a great job of proving people wrong 775 00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:25,908 Speaker 2: at different levels and tuning out the noise because that 776 00:32:25,948 --> 00:32:26,948 Speaker 2: happened to him in college. 777 00:32:27,348 --> 00:32:28,468 Speaker 4: He goes to another school. 778 00:32:28,828 --> 00:32:31,388 Speaker 2: He's just a guy that doesn't complain, goes and finds 779 00:32:31,388 --> 00:32:33,308 Speaker 2: success at another school. And then if you go back 780 00:32:33,308 --> 00:32:35,508 Speaker 2: two seasons ago, there were a lot of questions about 781 00:32:35,628 --> 00:32:37,748 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurson, was he going to be the guy going forward? 782 00:32:37,828 --> 00:32:39,948 Speaker 2: Is he really good guy in Philly? And then he 783 00:32:39,988 --> 00:32:42,548 Speaker 2: comes out last year and I'm not sure anyone other 784 00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:45,428 Speaker 2: than Jalen and the Eagles, and that fan base thought 785 00:32:45,428 --> 00:32:46,908 Speaker 2: that he was going to put up the type of 786 00:32:46,948 --> 00:32:49,788 Speaker 2: season that he put up an MVP caliber type season. 787 00:32:49,868 --> 00:32:52,188 Speaker 2: So here's the thing he does that that leap of 788 00:32:52,228 --> 00:32:56,868 Speaker 2: improvement is massive. He gets a massive contract, he takes 789 00:32:56,868 --> 00:32:59,028 Speaker 2: the team to the super Bowl, he comes very close 790 00:32:59,068 --> 00:33:00,028 Speaker 2: to winning the Super Bowl. 791 00:33:00,148 --> 00:33:01,468 Speaker 4: What does that do to a player? 792 00:33:01,748 --> 00:33:06,548 Speaker 2: These expectations have certainly maybe his expectations have never changed, 793 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:09,268 Speaker 2: but the outside expectations on Jalen Hurts and what he 794 00:33:09,308 --> 00:33:12,188 Speaker 2: can do has certainly changed in a year's span. 795 00:33:12,268 --> 00:33:13,548 Speaker 4: What does that do to a player? Jalen? 796 00:33:13,828 --> 00:33:17,748 Speaker 3: I think outside of you know, there's something with Jalen's 797 00:33:17,788 --> 00:33:20,588 Speaker 3: of you know, the Jalens of the world, of you know, 798 00:33:22,108 --> 00:33:25,108 Speaker 3: never settling, you know, for less than your best, and 799 00:33:25,548 --> 00:33:28,188 Speaker 3: if you're not number one, your last. He's a He's 800 00:33:28,228 --> 00:33:31,948 Speaker 3: a guy that's not satisfied by the big contract, by 801 00:33:31,948 --> 00:33:34,628 Speaker 3: the success he's had. He wants to win it all 802 00:33:34,668 --> 00:33:38,348 Speaker 3: and he knows to be mentioned amongst the greatest, you know, 803 00:33:38,428 --> 00:33:40,548 Speaker 3: you have to win it. So I think that's what 804 00:33:40,668 --> 00:33:43,268 Speaker 3: Jalen's focus is is how can he get over that, 805 00:33:43,508 --> 00:33:46,188 Speaker 3: you know, that next hurdle and that next hump of actually, 806 00:33:46,628 --> 00:33:48,948 Speaker 3: you know, taking down you know, the Pat Mahomes of 807 00:33:48,988 --> 00:33:49,348 Speaker 3: the world. 808 00:33:49,388 --> 00:33:50,908 Speaker 5: Well, as a guy that you know, I've been to 809 00:33:50,948 --> 00:33:52,548 Speaker 5: two Super Bowls myself, and when I went to my 810 00:33:52,588 --> 00:33:54,388 Speaker 5: first one, we lost. That was a was a pretty 811 00:33:54,468 --> 00:33:57,788 Speaker 5: dismal game for us. But I think it teaches you something. 812 00:33:57,828 --> 00:33:59,148 Speaker 5: And I think for him being able to be a 813 00:33:59,188 --> 00:34:00,668 Speaker 5: young player like I was and go to your first 814 00:34:00,668 --> 00:34:02,948 Speaker 5: Super Bowl like I did. Granted he lost, but that 815 00:34:02,948 --> 00:34:04,668 Speaker 5: teaches you a lot about the moment and what it 816 00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:06,148 Speaker 5: takes to get there. You know, a lot of guys 817 00:34:06,188 --> 00:34:08,868 Speaker 5: don't get there ever, you know in the like for example, 818 00:34:08,868 --> 00:34:10,708 Speaker 5: I had d war It took him eleven seasons to 819 00:34:10,748 --> 00:34:12,988 Speaker 5: get there. So this guy's going in on this. It 820 00:34:13,028 --> 00:34:15,628 Speaker 5: was his first second season starting doing this thing. I 821 00:34:15,668 --> 00:34:17,148 Speaker 5: think it teaches you a lot. Now it's only going 822 00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:18,668 Speaker 5: to make them better because now he understands what do 823 00:34:18,668 --> 00:34:21,068 Speaker 5: you have to do? You understand that how long a 824 00:34:21,148 --> 00:34:23,188 Speaker 5: season is when you go to the Super Bowl, how 825 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:25,068 Speaker 5: short the off season is, and what it really takes 826 00:34:25,068 --> 00:34:27,108 Speaker 5: in the mindset to get there. So I think it's 827 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,228 Speaker 5: only going to make them better and push him up 828 00:34:29,228 --> 00:34:32,388 Speaker 5: to that status of number one and everything's only helping him. 829 00:34:32,428 --> 00:34:33,908 Speaker 4: Right now, did you go to your rookie season to 830 00:34:33,908 --> 00:34:34,388 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? 831 00:34:34,428 --> 00:34:35,508 Speaker 5: I went my second season, your. 832 00:34:35,388 --> 00:34:38,468 Speaker 4: Second season, So that's right in the jal In wheelhouse. 833 00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,268 Speaker 2: Going so early in your career, there's guys that wait 834 00:34:41,628 --> 00:34:43,828 Speaker 2: a decade. I remember talking to Lelante David, who had 835 00:34:43,868 --> 00:34:46,228 Speaker 2: been in Tampa forever, hadn't even been to the playoffs, 836 00:34:46,268 --> 00:34:48,508 Speaker 2: and then he finally it took that long for him 837 00:34:48,508 --> 00:34:51,148 Speaker 2: to get there. When you go so early in your career, 838 00:34:51,588 --> 00:34:54,308 Speaker 2: does it maybe shift the perception that you think, oh, 839 00:34:54,308 --> 00:34:56,068 Speaker 2: everyone gets to go to the super Like did you 840 00:34:56,148 --> 00:34:58,588 Speaker 2: have that perspective when you went so young? 841 00:34:58,908 --> 00:35:01,068 Speaker 5: Ah? Yeah, I was like, oh, we're doing this every year, 842 00:35:01,228 --> 00:35:02,468 Speaker 5: you know, and then you, like you said, you talk 843 00:35:02,508 --> 00:35:04,348 Speaker 5: to guys, it's like, nah, I've never been I played 844 00:35:04,428 --> 00:35:06,708 Speaker 5: this long, this long. It's like, wow, that's that's interesting. 845 00:35:06,748 --> 00:35:08,748 Speaker 5: I went two times in four years, you know. So 846 00:35:08,788 --> 00:35:10,828 Speaker 5: we had a really good team, you know, I mean, 847 00:35:10,828 --> 00:35:12,788 Speaker 5: you know, we were very privileged, you know, and we 848 00:35:12,788 --> 00:35:14,748 Speaker 5: should have won the third time in Jacksonville gets the Patriots, 849 00:35:14,748 --> 00:35:16,108 Speaker 5: But that's a whole another story, and that's a whole 850 00:35:16,108 --> 00:35:19,828 Speaker 5: nother story, you know, But yeah, it helps you. I 851 00:35:19,828 --> 00:35:21,708 Speaker 5: think It also gives you that confidence. Once you sit 852 00:35:21,788 --> 00:35:23,748 Speaker 5: down and you kind of debrief from the season and 853 00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:25,748 Speaker 5: you're sitting at home, you're like, man, I actually am 854 00:35:25,748 --> 00:35:27,348 Speaker 5: pretty good. You know. I started in this Triper Bowl. 855 00:35:27,388 --> 00:35:28,948 Speaker 5: I was able to help the team. You look at 856 00:35:28,988 --> 00:35:31,228 Speaker 5: your stats and it's just like, Okay, I can make 857 00:35:31,268 --> 00:35:32,828 Speaker 5: it here. And then it just gives you that confidence 858 00:35:32,828 --> 00:35:35,348 Speaker 5: and keep trying new stuff, keep working on new things, 859 00:35:35,388 --> 00:35:37,228 Speaker 5: and expand your game and get out your comfort zone 860 00:35:37,228 --> 00:35:38,948 Speaker 5: a little bit to be able to go out there 861 00:35:38,948 --> 00:35:40,148 Speaker 5: and become that next step of player. 862 00:35:40,188 --> 00:35:42,588 Speaker 8: It seems like every time Jalen's been doubted, he's come 863 00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:43,348 Speaker 8: back better, and. 864 00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:45,268 Speaker 6: So I think he's going to use this as fuel. 865 00:35:45,388 --> 00:35:45,708 Speaker 6: I don't. 866 00:35:45,788 --> 00:35:47,348 Speaker 8: I'm not worried about him as being one of the 867 00:35:47,388 --> 00:35:49,028 Speaker 8: guys where the contract. 868 00:35:48,708 --> 00:35:50,268 Speaker 6: Effects at the Super Bowl. 869 00:35:50,308 --> 00:35:52,668 Speaker 8: We hear about the Super Bowl hangovers, the way Jalen 870 00:35:52,748 --> 00:35:55,188 Speaker 8: seems to be built, the way that he talks, his demeanor, 871 00:35:55,708 --> 00:35:57,908 Speaker 8: he moves like a forty year old man as a 872 00:35:57,908 --> 00:36:00,308 Speaker 8: thirty five year old, how he speaks, and how he 873 00:36:00,348 --> 00:36:03,588 Speaker 8: holds himself in front of people, and so I think 874 00:36:03,788 --> 00:36:05,788 Speaker 8: the whole all question his expectations. 875 00:36:05,908 --> 00:36:07,908 Speaker 6: He's going to give right back to that big game. 876 00:36:07,988 --> 00:36:09,028 Speaker 6: That's where he wants to be. 877 00:36:09,308 --> 00:36:11,868 Speaker 8: That's where he's good enough to get there, and to 878 00:36:11,908 --> 00:36:13,868 Speaker 8: be honest, if he gets there, I'd be surprised if 879 00:36:13,868 --> 00:36:14,388 Speaker 8: he doesn't want it. 880 00:36:14,428 --> 00:36:15,468 Speaker 4: This time coming up. 881 00:36:15,908 --> 00:36:18,948 Speaker 2: We gave you our all underrated offense yesterday. Now it's 882 00:36:18,948 --> 00:36:21,668 Speaker 2: signed for defense, which players deserve a little love. 883 00:36:21,708 --> 00:36:22,468 Speaker 4: We're going to tell you now