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Speaker 1: Welcome into lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and we are going to give you

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Speaker 1: our reaction and takeaways from the Ravens fifty three man

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Speaker 1: roster cutdown day.

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Speaker 2: The roster is set. We have the initial.

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Speaker 1: Roster at least this will change in the coming days

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Speaker 1: and weeks. But you know there's always a badge of

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Speaker 1: honor for making the initial fifty three, and now we

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Speaker 1: have it in our hands. Garrett, Let's go through the

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Speaker 1: list of first who made the team, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: say kind of the more notable cuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, so we'll start on offense. We make the obligatory

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Speaker 3: joke here, Lamar Jackson made the team.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 3: Aha, we got out of the way. Okay, So let's

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Speaker 3: run through it. Here the fifty three man starting on offense,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Josh Johnson. Two quarterbacks running back Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 3: Justice Hill, Rasheen Ali and Patrick Riccard. At tight end,

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Speaker 3: it's Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely and Charlie cole Ed. Wide

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Speaker 3: receiver Deontay Hardy, Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman, Nelson Aguilar, Tylan

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Speaker 3: Wallace and Devontes Walker. On the offensive line, it's Nick Case,

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Speaker 3: Mack Tyler, Linderbaum, Patrick mcarry, Ben Cleveland, Roger Rosegarten, Sala

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Speaker 3: move La Ulu, Andrew Vorhees, Josh Jones, Daniel f Aalle,

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Speaker 3: and Ronnie Stanley. That's your offense. It's ten offensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: twenty five guys on the offensive side of the ball. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'll flip it over to the defensive side. Roy Kwan

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Speaker 3: You also have Malie Harrison and Chris Board Outside there's

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Speaker 3: a Desa Isaac, Kyle van Ney, David Ajabo, Tavius Robinson,

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Speaker 3: and a Dafe Oway. In the secondary, cornerback Nate Wiggins,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Armor, Davis safety, Bo Braid, safety, Kyle Hamilton, defensive

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Speaker 3: back Brandon Stevens, DJ Tampa Sonoosi cain Are, Darius Washington,

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Speaker 3: Marcus Williams, Eddie Jackson, Eddie Jackson, and Marlon Humphrey. And

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Speaker 3: then on the defensive line, it's Michael Pierce, Justin Madbike

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Speaker 3: Projeck Washington, Brent Urban and Travis Jones. And then the specialists.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about this is Justin Tucker Jordan Stout

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Speaker 3: and Nick Moore, and then quickly on the injury front,

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Speaker 3: Arthur Molett cornerback, goes On Ir designated to return, running

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Speaker 3: back Keaton Mitchell. He's been on the pup list throughout

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Speaker 3: training camp, has not practiced yet. He's going into the

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Speaker 3: season on the pup list, meaning that he's out for

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Speaker 3: at least the first four games.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: So there's your fifty three man roster, plus the two

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Speaker 3: guys who could come back who are on the injury

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Speaker 3: list for the time being.

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Speaker 1: You and I more importantly tied in our predictions. We

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Speaker 1: each missed on three, so we got fifty to fifty three.

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Speaker 1: The one that we both missed on we both missed

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Speaker 1: on two. We had Tayshaun Manning. Actually I think we

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Speaker 1: missed on more than three, but anyway, essentially Boyle South three,

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Speaker 1: Tayshaun Manning we both had on the roster, and Salah

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Speaker 1: made it instead of him. We also both had Pepe

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Speaker 1: who we both did not have on the team, did

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Speaker 1: make it instead of Pepe. And then I had Josh

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Speaker 1: Ross on the team. You had Joe Evans. Yeah, both

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Speaker 1: did not make the roster. We had some ir things.

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Speaker 1: I think you had a dece Isaac going on IR

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Speaker 1: So actually we kind of got forty nine of fifty three.

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Speaker 2: Technically speaking, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not a great showing. It was an okay showing, okay

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Speaker 1: showing for us. Yeah, and some of the more notable cuts.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think Pepe was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a surprise to some people. You know, he had

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Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to be enough to push

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Speaker 1: him off the roster. But essentially the Ravens ended up

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Speaker 1: keeping Snusi Kane and going heavy at safety and one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that that was more interesting.

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Speaker 1: And then we both thought Tayshaun Manning could beat out

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Speaker 1: Sala and the Ravens did not agree with that assessment,

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Speaker 1: and so that was an interesting one. Kadier Ismael, I know,

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Speaker 1: a popular player amongst fans here, son of Kadri. You know,

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Speaker 1: not a surprise they didn't make the fifty three. Would

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Speaker 1: And then a player that we've talked a lot about,

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Speaker 1: Malie Cunningham, you know, that's one. And then Dayton Wade,

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Speaker 1: the undrafted rookie wide receiver, did not make the team,

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Speaker 1: while bo Braid was the only undrafted rookie.

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Speaker 2: He made it. So those were some of the more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think starting you know, I guess

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Speaker 3: You know, the Ravens make the decision to go with

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Speaker 3: I would expect that Emery Jones or Devin Leary ends

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Speaker 3: up back on the practice squad. I suppose there's potential

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Speaker 3: for both. That would surprise me a little bit. But

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Speaker 3: I think that one of them, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: Like I said before, I would probably give Devin Leary

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Speaker 1: that was T Martin's guy really wanted them now obviously

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Speaker 1: wanted Emory Jones two and Emery Jones outperformed him in

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Speaker 1: the preseason games through a long touchdown pass compared to

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Speaker 1: two interceptions for Devin Leary and the finale. But you

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Speaker 1: Leary's got the arm, you know, I mean the There's

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Speaker 1: He's this was kind of the scouting report coming into

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Speaker 1: a gunslinger and turn the ball. Has turned the ball

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about only keeping two quarterbacks was that

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Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon news broke that you can't have a

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Speaker 1: to be on your fifty three man roster, which was

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Speaker 1: part of the reason why the Ravens carried three quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: last year. Explained how the rule so last year players

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Speaker 1: had to be on the fifty three man roster, and

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Speaker 1: then on game days they could act as an extra

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Speaker 1: Emergency third quarterback could be your forty seventh, but they

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Speaker 1: eligible to playing games in emergency situations. The NFLPA rejected that,

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Speaker 3: Right right. So again, well we'll see if that has,

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Speaker 3: you know, any impact on roster movement from here. But

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Speaker 3: I think that, look, I think at least one of

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Speaker 3: see where it goes, all right, So at running back.

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Speaker 3: The other thing, you know, owen Wright was a guy

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Speaker 2: To return, which means he's done for the year.

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Speaker 3: Right, And so Rashein Ali makes the fifty three their

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Speaker 3: rookie fifth front pick on a Marshall, you know, he's

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Speaker 3: dealing with concussion protocol and so you know, not sure

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We're we're how many days away now from playing against

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Speaker 1: with him as your third running back? Of course, there's

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Speaker 1: always the possibility that the Ravens could add somebody in

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Speaker 1: in the season for games. So really with Owen Wright.

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Speaker 1: It's a bummer for him. Here's a local kid, you know,

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Speaker 1: in part why not to why don't you designate him.

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Speaker 1: Owen Wright, you know, he broke his foot. The reports

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not like a month long process or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and RB one is pretty solid, right, I think

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Speaker 3: we're good there. Yeah, So I think the RB three

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Speaker 1: Not that like critical position on this team, right, I

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Speaker 1: mean you have Derrek Henry and Justice Hill, Like really

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Speaker 3: no question really there. Receiver, there was debait, you know

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Speaker 3: undrafted rookie who I thought had a shot, and then

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Speaker 2: I think it was pretty I thought it was pretty chalk.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Wallace is the fourth year veteran who also was

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Speaker 1: consistent throughout training camp, made plays, made some plays in

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Speaker 1: And not to mention what he's offered as a special

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Speaker 3: So on the defensive side of the ball, I think,

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Speaker 1: Well, so there's the Ravens really had a roster crunch

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Speaker 1: the deepest position group on this team, My goodness, gracious

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Speaker 1: Kyle Houlton, Marcus williams, Eddie Jackson, Ardarius Washington, Bo Braid

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Speaker 1: and Sanoosie Kane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six deep at safety.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: The other thing too, Ardarius is kind of slot corner

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Speaker 1: slash safety but still.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, Look, we said all some are like

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Speaker 3: we love the secondary yea. And it's deep and like

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Speaker 3: you can go through it on corner too, and.

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Speaker 2: Still very deep even though you cut Pepe.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's still very deep. Also, you know this is

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Speaker 3: corner and linebacker for we'll talk about the rookie class. TJ.

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Speaker 3: Tampa is a guy that started this started training camp

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Speaker 3: on the pup list. Now he was activated and he's

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Speaker 3: practiced for the last couple of weeks. You know, he

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Speaker 3: makes a fifty three. That was kind of the expectation.

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Speaker 3: But it's good that like he didn't. He's not an

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Speaker 3: ir guy, say with the disa Isaac. These are guys

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Speaker 3: that had been that had missed time a considerable amount

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Speaker 3: of time this summer, and one of the.

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Speaker 1: Right a soft tissue injury in the other leg. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the second one in John Harvell said it won't keep

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Speaker 1: him out as long as the first.

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Speaker 2: It's a good sign that he didn't go in IR.

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Speaker 1: That means, all right, they think he might be able

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Speaker 1: to contribute in the first three to four weeks, right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's really good for Desa

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Speaker 3: Isaac and for and for TJ Tampa too that those

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Speaker 3: guys are on the fifty three not on injured reserve

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Speaker 3: to open the season.

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Speaker 1: YEP.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the other things on defense, I felt

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Speaker 3: like it was kind of chalk. I don't think there

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Speaker 3: was you know, one guy who I did have on

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Speaker 3: who didn't make it was was Joe Evans. You know,

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Speaker 3: I was. I joked in the fifty three man prediction

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Speaker 3: pod that, you know, I was swayed by the really

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Speaker 3: strong preseason finale and the basketball moment from Wired. But

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Speaker 3: like I do think he I think he's a strong

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Speaker 3: practice squad candidate. I liked him, sure, Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 3: that he had a good preseason finale and you know,

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Speaker 3: to me, could be a good a good fit as

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Speaker 3: a special teamer.

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Speaker 2: Well, we just got done talking about it. Dsa Isaac.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe being not that far off from returning

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Speaker 1: that could have an impact on that as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I think that if he's healthy, then you

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Speaker 3: have your linebackers. You don't have a spot there.

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Speaker 1: And I kept Josh Ross in part because I thought, hey,

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Speaker 1: they're going to want more bigger bodied special team guys

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Speaker 1: who can stand out there. You know, Snousi Kane I

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Speaker 1: think is a bigger you know, he could fit that.

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Speaker 1: Bill Also, he's not his experienced certainly, but I think

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Speaker 1: the Ravens probably like that upside and opted to go

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Speaker 1: with really just four inside linebackers, Trenton Sipson, Roquan Smith,

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Speaker 1: Chris Board and Malie Harrison. It's also a sign that,

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Speaker 1: you know, because Malie Harrison could be playing outside, especially

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Speaker 1: early in the season, like another sign that maybe at DECA,

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Speaker 1: Isaac isn't too far off that you can count on

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Speaker 1: Malie Harrison being that inside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Back up, you know, when I just look through the

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Speaker 3: defense and I just think this defense is can be

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Speaker 3: really good. Like when you look through these players and

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Speaker 3: you're looking like Roquan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, Kyle Hamilton, Marcus Williams,

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Speaker 3: Kyle van Noy, you're like, man, this guy justin ATABK,

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Speaker 3: Like you just look at the list and you're like this,

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Speaker 3: this defense is going to be really good. Zach War Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I can keep going here, like I keep

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Speaker 3: going like, I think I think this defense is going

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Speaker 3: to be excellent and that starters and depth, and so

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Speaker 3: I think that the Rams aren't a really good plays

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Speaker 3: on that front.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I just like this fifty three man roster, like

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Speaker 1: the way it's shaped up, and like we said, there's

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Speaker 1: there's going to be changes, certainly, you know this year

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Speaker 1: there's not going to be the whole Brent Rban Hey,

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Speaker 1: bren Herban Baby, yeah, babe, we don't have to do

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Speaker 1: the handshake wing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for Brent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it didn't really matter in the end.

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I like this fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: I don't honestly, you know, the spots where I think

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Speaker 1: there could be some maneuvering would be it running back,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned, if they wanted to bring in some

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Speaker 1: other veteran that's out there just as a stop gap,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're going to have to really you know,

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Speaker 1: even if let's say you elevate John Kelly, and we

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe Rasheina Ali just rides rides it as

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Speaker 1: the number three running back and you don't need to

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Speaker 1: elevate people from the practice squad. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: can only elevate a veteran from the practice squad so

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Speaker 1: many times, and so then they would have to get

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Speaker 1: another veteran after that until keep Mitchell return. But I

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Speaker 1: think running back is one to monitor. And then, like

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Speaker 1: we said, offensive lineman, does some veteran experienced veteran backup

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Speaker 1: shake loose.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that I'll mention here before we close

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Speaker 3: is that this is a teaser. Coming up on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: we have a very exciting, very special episode of a

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Speaker 3: Lounge and that is going to be with one quarterback,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: He said stuff.

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Speaker 3: He sat down with us and was really insightful, opened

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Speaker 3: up about his mindset going into this season. I think

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Speaker 3: that you know, I don't want to reveal too much,

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Speaker 3: but I think that Ravens fans will be really excited

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Speaker 3: after hearing from Lamar. Thought it was, you know, more

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Speaker 3: open than he's more open and insightful than than he's

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Speaker 3: been in a lot of fronts. You know, I thought

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Speaker 3: it was just a very candid conversation with him, and

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Speaker 3: I think that you know, you can tell that he

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Speaker 3: is somebody who is always motivated, but I think that

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Speaker 3: may have gone to an even greater level this year,

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Speaker 3: and he has me. After talking to him, I'm even

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Speaker 3: more fired up about the season.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, for sure that that's a that's a good

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you're tuned in for that.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you leave us a rating and review.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I feel like we've gotten

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Speaker 1: some really good ratings and even though we didn't hit

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Speaker 1: all our roster predictions, don't rate our roster knock us

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Speaker 1: that hard for that. So thanks for listening as always,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you're back here Thursday morning for Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson