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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kaleida Health.

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Speaker 2: How is everyone doing here? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live is your program of choice. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: choosing it. Glad to have you with us and the

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Speaker 2: Bills with a closed practice today just finished up probably

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Speaker 2: about a half hour ago, as they begin final preparations

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Speaker 2: for the regular season, which is a Hana Steve first

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Speaker 2: game of the year seven days away the NFL kickoff games, right,

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Speaker 2: Chiefs Ravens a week from today.

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Speaker 1: Nice, you know, we and all of our We have

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Speaker 1: some people who won or I would say that, they say,

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Speaker 1: they tell me they watch us every day.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't know if i'd watch.

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Speaker 1: Us every day if I was, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: it's the middle of the day. The middle of the day,

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Speaker 1: right I mean. But anyway, some of our faithful listeners

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Speaker 1: and viewers. You gotta know, it's been a long off season,

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know why it's felt like a longer one.

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Speaker 1: Than really it really has, because there's always, you know,

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Speaker 1: for all the stuff we do in the off season,

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Speaker 1: there's some there's some empty days over here, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: not so much now. Fifty three cut down Day before

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Speaker 1: yesterday season opener faster. But these are dude, these are

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Speaker 1: our saladays. We're making some hay now, got stuff to do.

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Speaker 2: We got a I'm steak dinner awesome, not eating.

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Speaker 3: We're signing got we're silent safeties off of Minnesota's team.

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Speaker 1: We're making trades reportedly. Yes, we got a game on

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Speaker 1: the horizon right coming up, Like the next thing is

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Speaker 1: a game. Let's go, man, Yeah, I am, and this

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Speaker 1: is training Camp's over. We're back. We're back from Saint

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Speaker 1: John Fisher.

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Speaker 2: Tune it up, let's go. Yeah, we are ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Got a full show for you today. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: the rundown in just a second. There is Bill's news,

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Speaker 2: as you might imagine, Steve mentioned it. There is a

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Speaker 2: report that the Bills are going to be signing former

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Speaker 2: Vikings first round pick and safety Lewis Seen to their

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Speaker 2: practice squad. So we'll wait for that to become official. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: it was reported that Scene was going to sign with

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Speaker 2: the Jets practice squad, but apparently has had a change

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Speaker 2: of heart and is going to instead choose to sign

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Speaker 2: with the Bills practice squad. And there could be a

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Speaker 2: reason on Buffalo's coaching staff Bill's cornerbacks coach Jamie L.

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Speaker 2: Daye coach Lewis Seen in his final season at the

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Speaker 2: University of Georgia. He was his defensive backs coach when

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Speaker 2: they won their first of two back to back national titles,

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Speaker 2: and then Scene went on to the NFL, where he

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Speaker 2: was a first round selection of the Vikings with the

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Speaker 2: two draft. You might be asking why is Seen available

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Speaker 2: and not on the Vikings roster. Injuries have largely played

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Speaker 2: scenes career in the NFL. He's played two NFL seasons.

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Speaker 2: He has only played six games in each of his

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Speaker 2: first two seasons, so he has played in twelve and

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Speaker 2: missed twenty two due to injury. And Steve and I

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Speaker 2: talk about it all the time. Your number one ability

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Speaker 2: in this league is availability, and he has not had

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Speaker 2: that in his time with the Vikings. And apparently the

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Speaker 2: Vikings were tired of waiting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got it a little impatient, which is hard to

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Speaker 1: do with a first round pick. Yeah, So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's probably a little something more in that than just

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Speaker 1: the injuries, but we'll find out. Bill get a guy

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Speaker 1: with some real measurables. At a position they have been

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Speaker 1: you know, they had some vacancies over the offseason, so

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Speaker 1: they'll continue to try and get better, right at least athletically.

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Speaker 2: Defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage looks like he is going to

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Speaker 2: be calling plays for Buffalo's defense this season. Ryan o'hallen

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Speaker 2: from the Buffalo News had this story reported first. I

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Speaker 2: think we felt it was trending this way for most

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Speaker 2: and I quite frankly, I think Sean McDermott was thinking,

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Speaker 2: So I think this is a win win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. McDermott going through it last year and called on

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Speaker 1: But I think in the big picture, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: do some game management. Offensively, he couldn't talk to his

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Speaker 1: And certainly Bob Babbage is certainly he's earned this, this chance,

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Speaker 2: I also wonder, you know, with this new dynamic kickoff play,

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Speaker 2: of the game, even while serving as head coach this year,

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Speaker 2: we heard Coach Smiley say it back in training camp

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Speaker 2: was sitting there, going, Holy cow, there's gonna be something

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Speaker 2: Part of him also thinks, you know what, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: with it being a brand new play.

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Speaker 1: To the game, right, Yeah, I think there is a

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Speaker 1: scouring over every kick and kickoff return and kick off

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's given you much though, because

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Speaker 2: special teams coaches are coaching against special teams coaches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you've got somebody who's has already played

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Speaker 1: that's in the mix. But yes, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think McDermott already as as thin as a head

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Speaker 1: This added special teams wrinkle does give you some paus about. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I got this kickoff thing. I think it's just more

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Speaker 1: a head coach's plate. We've seen head coaches do it offensively,

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Speaker 1: but I think more about game management is on the

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Speaker 1: McDermott had a year as a head coach calling defensive

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's a bet he thinks it's

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Speaker 2: I think it's a win win, unquestionably. I just I

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Speaker 2: just know with all the training camp practices and once

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Speaker 2: his observation time during practice with special teams and I

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Speaker 2: totally understand why. You have got something that has been

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Speaker 2: And I think as a head coach you would feel

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Speaker 2: compelled to help your coordinators in that phase of the

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Speaker 1: And Bob Babbage has been with McDermott since for twelve years. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's coached for twelve years. They've had tons of conversations

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: And Babbage has watched McDermott do it all the way

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Speaker 1: Babbage's ready for this, no question about it. And McDermott

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Speaker 1: He's giving Bob Babbitt a chance to grow into it

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Speaker 2: The Bills. Some of the players after the fifty three

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Speaker 2: among them Joe Andreeson, and my favorite part of that

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Speaker 2: interview was Andresen was asked, you know who is his

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Speaker 2: but he was my favorite player, And I'm sitting there,

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Speaker 1: What I mean, My favorite radio personality is Chris Brown. Well,

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Speaker 2: Like, it's just Joe Andres's favorite players. Bap a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think about it because there's pictures the Internet and

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Speaker 1: watching his team, right, He's he's a hometown guy that

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Speaker 1: as a player. Bless his heart. Man, it's just a

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Speaker 1: great story. And I can't imagine what that must be

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Speaker 1: No dad as well.

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Speaker 2: I had the pleasure of briefly meeting his parents during

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Speaker 2: the preseason when they were down in Pittsburgh, and you know,

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Speaker 2: that turned out to be a game worth watching in

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Speaker 2: person for sure, as far as Joe's performance was concerned.

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Speaker 2: Nice people and you know, could not be more supportive

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Speaker 2: as you would expect parents to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been anywhere and everywhere this preseason following him around.

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Speaker 2: So glad that thing had a happy ending for him

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Speaker 2: Mike Williams will be ready available for Week one when

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Speaker 2: the Jets play at San Francisco on Monday night. Football

433
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Speaker 2: hit coach Robert Salas said today they'll have a deliberate

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Speaker 2: approach with Williams, so it sounds as though he'll be

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Speaker 2: on a pitch count, but he has been practicing with

436
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Speaker 2: the team for the better part of the last week.

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Speaker 2: He's coming off an ACL injury from last year, so

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Speaker 2: they were trying to take a methodical approach with him.

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Speaker 2: I would expect him to be on a pitch count

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Speaker 2: through the early stages of the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He got the ACL injury in Week one a year ago,

443
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Speaker 1: so it has been that long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On a league conference call, NFL's Jeff Miller said

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Speaker 2: they are closely monitoring the situation for Chiefs wide receiver

446
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Speaker 2: Rashi Rice, saying they'll follow the legal developments. With his

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Speaker 2: legal situation not yet settled, Rice remains eligible to begin

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Speaker 2: play this season. There was clarity provided by NFL PR

449
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Speaker 2: executive Brian McCarthy, who said, we don't end anticipate he'll

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Speaker 2: be placed on the Commissioner's exempt list unless there is

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Speaker 2: a material change in the case. So while the case

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Speaker 2: is bogged down in the courts and not resolved, the

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Speaker 2: league waits. They lie in wait to levy a suspension

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Speaker 2: of some kind. So as long as the case is

455
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Speaker 2: bogged up in the courts, Rashi Rice plays caseball.

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Speaker 1: The case we're talking about is racing automobiles at a

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Speaker 1: high rate of speed in Dallas on freeway and crashing

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Speaker 1: with Fat and them and four other cars or a

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Speaker 1: number of other cars affected. Yea, and he was the

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Speaker 1: owner of both cars. And supposedly maybe driving one of them.

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Speaker 1: That's the case we're talking about it. That's been alleged.

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Speaker 2: So and then there was another incident he had in

463
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Speaker 2: a bar, yes, thereafter, so well, the justice system will

464
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Speaker 2: have to run its course before the league decides to

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Speaker 2: enact discipline on Rice. It's coming, but it may not

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Speaker 2: come this season depending on how long that case takes

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Speaker 2: to reach a conclusion. We also have an interesting case

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Speaker 2: involving Tom Brady. Steve his pending bid to become part

469
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Speaker 2: owner of the Las Vegas Raiders has triggered restrictions on

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Speaker 2: his access to teams around the NFL. As part of

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Speaker 2: his role as a Fox Sports broadcaster. Brady is not

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Speaker 2: permitted as a media person to attend in person or

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Speaker 2: online broadcast production meetings and cannot have access to team facilities,

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Speaker 2: players or coaches. Fox staff is not subject to these limitations.

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Speaker 2: So because he's in the process of becoming a minority

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Speaker 2: owner of the Raiders, that restricts his access as a

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Speaker 2: media member. Yes, and I mean you did this for

478
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Speaker 2: twenty years, Friday. You fly in, you watch practice, you

479
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Speaker 2: talk to players, you talk to the coaching staff to

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Speaker 2: get ready for the broadcast. He can't do any of

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Speaker 2: that because he's he's looked upon as an enemy of

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Speaker 2: the state.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. That's correct. And now it's not even because

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Speaker 1: I did. I was. I was a kind of a

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Speaker 1: part time employee of the Bills for all of those

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Speaker 1: years while I was doing the CBS. But it's different

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Speaker 1: being that than an owner of a team. That's a

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Speaker 1: different level. And they those guys are restricted and like

489
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Speaker 1: he can't say anything about the officials in a broadcast.

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Speaker 2: That's right. He can't anything negative about officials because owners

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Speaker 2: are restricted from doing that.

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Speaker 1: He can't.

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Speaker 2: That's why they get fined when they do.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And so.

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Speaker 2: He's got a ten year contract with Fox. Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: is that going to work?

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Speaker 1: Ten years? Ten years? Like like ten million a year

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Speaker 1: or something like that too. It's a big deal. So

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Speaker 1: that's he can't criticize other clubs. He can't criticize other owners.

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Speaker 1: He can't criticize you know, owners are very restricted in

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Speaker 1: what they can and cannot say. The league is very and.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna go on broadcasts every Sunday for three

503
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Speaker 2: and a half hours with those restrictions, how's it going

504
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Speaker 2: to be effective?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Everything's gonna have to be. He's gonna

506
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Speaker 1: have to have some rose colored glasses, I'm saying. I'm

507
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Speaker 1: telling you, well, we'll see. It's interesting too because once

508
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Speaker 1: he put his name in for consideration to be approved

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Speaker 1: as a part owner of a club, and that's it's

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Speaker 1: a process that everybody who in there has to go through.

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Speaker 1: Every owner had to they they applied to the league

512
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Speaker 1: for eligibility to buy an NFL franchise, and at any

513
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Speaker 1: given time, there's between less than a handful and more

514
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Speaker 1: than a dozen entities who have applied for approval. And

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Speaker 1: part of that once once you get voted on say yeah, okay,

516
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Speaker 1: like the Walton family, Yeah okay, you guys you're eligible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you don't you're not yea, And they've vet them.

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Speaker 1: You're fine. So then once that is approved, those restrictions

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Speaker 1: apply to them. They are not allowed to say anything

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Speaker 1: about it. So that's what's happened to Brady. He got

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Speaker 1: approved by part of the raiders and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: you can do it, but now you're you're under our rules.

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Speaker 2: Now you can't do ABCD, E, F and G.

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Speaker 1: Since you applied, you have to agree to the vetting process.

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Speaker 1: Bro Sleavage.

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Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see how that unfolds for him

527
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Speaker 2: as a Fox broadcaster. Our good friend Mike Jenidia spot

528
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Speaker 2: track dot com just put together the updated salary cap

529
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Speaker 2: room list for all thirty two NFL clubs, and the

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Speaker 2: Bills have the third lowest cap space in the league,

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Speaker 2: ninety four thousand dollars under the cap. We made it now.

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Speaker 2: That's because once you reach the regular season, no longer

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Speaker 2: do the top fifty three salaries count towards the cap.

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Speaker 2: But all player salaries, practice, squad, players, on IR, players,

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Speaker 2: on pup, they all count. And that is why all

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Speaker 2: this talk leading up to training camp and preseason where

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Speaker 2: people are like, just go get that guy and get

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Speaker 2: that guy. You couldn't do it because the Bills had

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Speaker 2: about seven and a half to eight million in cap

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Speaker 2: space when it was only the top fifty three salaries

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Speaker 2: counting on the cap. Now you've got sixty nine plus

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Speaker 2: a couple IR guys.

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Speaker 1: Pup guys four k yes, ninety four grand. And don't

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Speaker 1: think they weren't sweating it. Sweating it and also right

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Speaker 1: on top of.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah, like to the like sen to the cent

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Speaker 2: ninety three grand. The teams with the most cap room,

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Speaker 2: Brown's Patriots forty nine ers. Brown's thanks in part to

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Speaker 2: a restructuring of the Jashaun Watson contract, and then quickly

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Speaker 2: a move by the Las Vegas Raiders. They signed former

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Speaker 2: Bills fifth round pick Justin Shorter, who was just cut

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Speaker 2: earlier this week, to their practice squad as a tight end.

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Speaker 2: So Justin Shorter are going to try to continue his

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Speaker 2: NFL career as a tight end instead of a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if that were works for them quickly. Topic

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Speaker 2: of discussion today before we go to break, what off

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Speaker 2: season move or decision are you banking on the most

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Speaker 2: for the fortunes of the Bills in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You can let us know at aight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 2: those the numbers to get on board. We're back with

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Speaker 2: your phone calls at eight o three oh five point

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Speaker 2: fifty when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion today, what off season move or decision

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Speaker 2: are you banking on the most for the fortunes of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Bills this fall. Eighth, three oh five,

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Speaker 2: fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty those

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Speaker 2: are the numbers to get on board. And we do

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Speaker 2: have open lines for you as we kind of want

572
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Speaker 2: to know what one move acquisition decision you know by

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott with respect to the roster

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Speaker 2: this offseason could be coaching too, is the one that

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Speaker 2: you're banking on to kind of lead to success for

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Speaker 2: the Bills here in twenty twenty four, we go to

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Speaker 2: the phones and leading us off today is Anthony on

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Speaker 2: a cell? What do you got for us? Anthony, you're

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the question you were bringing up, I think it

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Speaker 6: would be Joe Brady the offensive coordinator. I think coming

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Speaker 6: in and having the handle on it and starting from

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Speaker 6: the day one in the training camp and the building

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Speaker 6: from there. And I last also just touch on the

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Speaker 6: Joan recent story. Sure, I think we might have a

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Speaker 6: Viscibal Pali story in the making here. What do you

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Speaker 6: all think about that? Thank you for taking my pall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand why you'd want to draw that kind

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Speaker 2: of a parallel, you know, kind of a feel good

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Speaker 2: story from a hometown guy.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Vince Popali was born in Chester, Pennsylvania, just outside of Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: and he played his college football locally at Saint Joe's

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Speaker 2: University in Philly. They don't have a football team anymore,

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Speaker 2: but they did back then.

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Speaker 3: He showed up at a community tryout or whatever, which

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Speaker 3: is what Joe did, Which what Joe did.

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Speaker 2: And Joe finished at University of Buffalo after going to

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Speaker 2: Bryant and Rhode Island. So yeah, there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of parallels to draw there. I think Papali played largely

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Speaker 2: on special teams for the Eagles for three seasons. I

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Speaker 2: think he only played in about forty five to fifty

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Speaker 2: games in his career. But yeah, I mean he had

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Speaker 2: a three year NFL career and was a long shot

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Speaker 2: to say the least. I will say what I think

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Speaker 2: gives andreason the possibility of playing in the league longer

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Speaker 2: than that are his instincts. I think it's very obvious

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Speaker 2: watching Joe play that there are some natural instincts there

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Speaker 2: that get him around the football. Even though he may

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Speaker 2: not be the elite of the elite of physical specimens

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Speaker 2: that this league has to offer. You know, you look

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Speaker 2: at the elite physical traits of Tremaine Edmunds, for example,

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Speaker 2: or a von Miller, and I think even Joe would

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Speaker 2: tell you he doesn't have those elite physical traits. But

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Speaker 2: what he does have are natural instincts, a feel for

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Speaker 2: the game. And if you have the necessary physical qualities

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Speaker 2: to play at this level, combine with those two things,

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Speaker 2: you can play in this league for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you're smart and tough, you don't need all the

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Speaker 1: physical attributes other guys have because you can think your

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Speaker 1: way through to be a contributor. You can find ways

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Speaker 1: to contribute and be smart enough to do that and

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Speaker 1: prepare yourself.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's his ind and that's what's

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Speaker 1: got him good. That's what got him in the door

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Speaker 1: really because you think about it. Yeah, he did have

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Speaker 1: a nice game against Pittsburgh, no question about it. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: stunk that day and they couldn't run that they couldn't

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Speaker 1: throw the football, so they were running the ball. Joe's

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Speaker 1: good run defender. And the other thing that really set

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Speaker 1: him apart, in my opinion, was the fact that he

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Speaker 1: was calling the defenses on the field for the Bills

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Speaker 1: that night, and he got it right. Coaches now can

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Speaker 1: trust him. He called a game against the Steelers in

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh on the road with the green dot, and they

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Speaker 1: they beat him. They help him six the three points

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Speaker 1: or six points three points. That's that's that's something, that's

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Speaker 1: something to put that on that guy's plate. And I'll

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Speaker 1: say you, three days before this, Joe Andreeson wasn't even

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Speaker 1: a hiccup and he ends up having the game he did.

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Speaker 1: He came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: He did play all right in the Bears game, the

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Speaker 2: first preseason game. I mean not to the level that

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Speaker 2: he did in Pittsburgh, obviously, but he made a couple

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Speaker 2: of plays on defense. He had a special teams tackle

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Speaker 2: as well in that Bears game. And that was a

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Speaker 2: game that the Bills got throttled. I mean they weren't.

651
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Speaker 2: There was no they didn't win at the line of scrimmage.

652
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Bears had a greater sense of urgency. Coach McDermott said

653
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Speaker 2: as much. And even in that game, there were a

654
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Speaker 2: couple of times where you noticed andreason and then he

655
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: just took it to a whole another level. And in

656
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and It's probably what landed him on this roster

657
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Speaker 2: when all was said and done. What offseason mover decision

658
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Speaker 2: are you banking on the most this season for the

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Speaker 2: Bill's fortunes in twenty twenty four? Eight h three zero,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty the numbers to get on board. We go

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Speaker 2: to gym in Jamestown next. What do you got for us, Jim?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a Bowl prediction for the Super Bowl? Okay,

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Speaker 5: detroed Buffalo, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Two teams that have never won a Super Bowl in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Yeah, okay, why why do you why?

667
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Speaker 2: Why those two teams? What has you bullish on both?

668
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 6: Because I think I think Bubble will have a better defense.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and Detroit I think it's third turn all right.

670
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Speaker 2: All right, they went to the NFC title Game last year,

671
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Speaker 2: and certainly the Hope Springs Eternal in the Motor City. Okay,

672
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Speaker 2: I'll listen to it. Yeah, I don't think it's an

673
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Speaker 2: outlandish pick.

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Speaker 1: Well, at this point of the season, nothing is. So

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Speaker 1: everybody's in it, right, They're all they're all O and

676
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Speaker 1: O right now. So that's yeah, Yeah, it'd be kind

677
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Speaker 1: of cool have two teams had.

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Speaker 2: One at least, you know, one team would be added

679
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Speaker 2: to the list of Super Bowl winners because what I think,

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Speaker 2: what is it nine teams have never won the Super Bowl?

681
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Speaker 2: I think it's about nine. Yeah, so, and the Bills

682
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: are and the Lions are in that category. With the

683
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: Lions win the nineteen fifty seven NFL Championship, I want

684
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Speaker 2: to say, yeah, that was before the Super Bowl, are right?

685
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something.

686
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: That's their last claim to fame. And as we know,

687
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: the Bills won the sixty four and sixty five AFL titles,

688
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: So that's where it's at.

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Speaker 1: I think what teams have not won the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously you have the expansion clubs Carolina, Jacksonville, and.

691
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Speaker 1: Houston, right Cleveland, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Detroit, Tennessee.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Arizona, Arizona.

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Speaker 2: There might be another one or two in there that

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Speaker 2: we're missing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Minnesota, New Orleans, Minnesota, Oh no, New Orleans one

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Speaker 3: of twenty twelve Shaw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so then it's just Atlanta. I think that's it. Arizona. Yeah, Okay, We're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna check a couple of your responses on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 2: Tweet Sheet is brought to you by Coring and Moving Systems,

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Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Jake says,

702
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Speaker 2: I seem to be in the minority here, but the

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Speaker 2: move of McGovern to center and Edwards to left guard,

704
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Speaker 2: I think they anchor at both spots better in pass

705
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Speaker 2: pro and depth of the pocket should be improved. I

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Speaker 2: trust Chromer with the old line. I will say this, Steve,

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Speaker 2: what's been talked about the least in terms of strengths

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Speaker 2: of this team. Offensive line might be at the top

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Speaker 2: of the list. I agree might be at the top

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Speaker 2: of the list, and it is unquestionably a strength going

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Speaker 2: forward this seams.

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Speaker 1: They came off a very good year last year where

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Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it. They all five guys

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Speaker 1: took virtually every snap of the regular season, and they're

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Speaker 1: the only team in the league that can say that.

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Speaker 1: The only time you saw a guy come off was

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Speaker 1: when Dawkins came off in the playoff game for a

718
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Speaker 1: series Week eight team, So we came off the fields

719
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Speaker 1: and got his fingers split. He came off for a series.

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Speaker 1: That's the only time any of the five offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: were on the field, and they had, you know, some

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Speaker 1: six offensive lines, some heavy packages they played as well,

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Speaker 1: but the five guys played all year and they played

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Speaker 1: very well. Let's not forget the Bills didn't get get

725
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Speaker 1: got less credit for being the two seed in the

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Speaker 1: conference than any team in recent memory, because they closed

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Speaker 1: out the regular season five straight wins when they were

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Speaker 1: six and six at the time. They got five straight

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Speaker 1: wins to get the two seed, and to me that

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Speaker 1: means something. This is a really good foot They got

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Speaker 1: the two seed in the rough conference, in a tougher

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Speaker 1: conference of the two So the Bills closed out in

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Speaker 1: a big way like year and and did it the

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Speaker 1: right way. And I think their offensive line has to

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Speaker 1: be credited with that. Some of it their offense, but

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Speaker 1: particularly after Joe Brady took over and they ran the

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Speaker 1: ball more than they threw it in fifty two percent.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else in the league was doing that really the

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Speaker 1: way the Bills were and winning games. So yeah, those

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Speaker 1: guys up front. We talked about it in the offseason,

741
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Speaker 1: off and on. It kind of got boring because there

742
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Speaker 1: was just so many good players up there, and the

743
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Speaker 1: guys backing them up were good. It's I think it's

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Speaker 1: a strength. Well it's easy to say that now before

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Speaker 1: they play a game, but yeah, the offensive line for

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Speaker 1: the Bills is going to be a huge problem for teams.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. What offseason mover decision are

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Speaker 2: you banking on the most for the bills fortunes this season?

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three zero five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty. Those are the numbers to jump

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Speaker 2: online with us. Got some open lines for you. Don't

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Speaker 2: forget our number two. We've got Greg Cosell coming your

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00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: way to talk about the roster back in a flash.

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Speaker 2: Mack here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you. Topic of discussion today, pretty simple one. We're

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Speaker 2: kind of asking you what offseason mover decision are you

757
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: banking on the most for the Bill's fortunes this season?

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00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: Some move, some decision made. It could be player player related,

759
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: could be coach related. We had to call it earlier,

760
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: said Joe Brady is the one that they're banking on

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Speaker 2: as a permanent offensive coordinator. So you let us know

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Speaker 2: at eight oh three, five fifty. Back to the phones

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Speaker 2: we go, and leading us off here is mac out

764
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Speaker 2: in Brockport. Let me get him up here, Mack. What

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Speaker 2: you got for us here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, you know.

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Speaker 5: I think I think there might be some opportunity for

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Speaker 5: us to pick up a wide receiver here in the

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Speaker 5: next few weeks, someone that's been dropped from another team

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Speaker 5: or in some kind of a creative trade. I think

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Speaker 5: that would really help to give some confidence and some

773
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Speaker 5: maturity to our wide receiver package. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a nice idea, but this is

775
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: an offensive system that takes some time to master. And

776
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: that's that's problem number one. If you brought somebody in now,

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Speaker 2: it would probably take them the better part of a month,

778
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Speaker 2: maybe longer, before the coaching staff would have the trust

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Speaker 2: to put them out there. That's number one and number two.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned earlier, Steve, the Bills are ninety four

781
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars under the cap. If they're bringing dollars in,

782
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: dollars have to go out as well.

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Speaker 1: Right. I think they like the guys they've got. I

784
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: think it's hard for most fans, any including Brownie and I,

785
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: to know exactly what they what they know and what

786
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Speaker 1: they see and the guys in the room. They're talking

787
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Speaker 1: about Keon Coleman and Curtis Samuel mostly and Mac Collins

788
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: as well, along with MVS. Those guys new as they are.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have studied and they've worked with them every day.

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Speaker 1: They've been in training camp now for a month it's been,

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00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: and have gotten to know them, and I think they

792
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: like those guys. They like what they bring to the table.

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Speaker 1: They are not adverse that. We always like to say, Hey,

794
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna eat, and we like to join in and

795
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: drink that kool aid about. Yeah, the Bills are gonna

796
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: have everybody's gonna be catching all kinds of footballs all that.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think will probably more likely happen. I

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Speaker 1: think somebody like Keon Coleman or Curtis Samuel or Dalton

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Speaker 1: Kincaid or James somebody, one of those guys, I would

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Speaker 1: think either is going to be the guy that is

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Speaker 1: the number one guy, or the club is gonna pick

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Speaker 1: a guy and start using them, maybe even a different

803
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Speaker 1: guy every week, whatever, what have you. Somebody's gonna catch

804
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Speaker 1: most of the balls and get most of the targets.

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Speaker 1: I think all of those guys are gonna contribute. I

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Speaker 1: think it is a unique situation when you've got a

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Speaker 1: group of guys when there's no guy in there who

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Speaker 1: is who doesn't even have to p and then get

809
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Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday and say throw me the ball.

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy. The Bills don't have a guy like that.

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Speaker 1: That is a unique situation in the NFL. Usually you've

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Speaker 1: got a guy like that. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: player of the caliber that Mac in Brockport is talking about. Zero.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any opportunity to acquire any guy

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Speaker 1: like that in the NFL who is out there, because

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Speaker 1: I don't First of all, it would be an incredibly

817
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Speaker 1: short list, and second of all, the list is made

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Speaker 1: even shorter by the compensation you'd have to give up

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Speaker 1: to get him. I just don't think that's ever gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's feasible what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Alex down in Charlotte,

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Speaker 2: what do you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Alex, Hey, Christmas, Steve, appreciate you guys having me on

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Speaker 8: to answer your question earlier. I think it's got to

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Speaker 8: be Keon Coleman. You know, Bill's traded back twice to

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Speaker 8: get them, gave up our big targets in the past,

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Speaker 8: and Digs and Davis, Samuel and Hollins I think are great,

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Speaker 8: great short term rentals, but that's what they are. They're

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Speaker 8: short term. And I think key On Coleman's got to

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Speaker 8: be the future and he's got to pan out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it, Alex, and thanks for the call.

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Speaker 2: And if you ask me, that was going to be

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Speaker 2: my pick. Coleman, you know that's the one I'm banking on,

834
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Speaker 2: not to necessarily lead the team in receiving, not to

835
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Speaker 2: have the most catches in the receiving corps, but to

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Speaker 2: make an impact to raise the level of the passing game,

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Speaker 2: knowing what you've lost. I'm not expecting him to be Diggs.

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Speaker 2: I'm not expecting him to be Davis. I'm expecting him

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Speaker 2: to be Keyon Coleman, which to me is a guy

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Speaker 2: that I'm hoping by the end of the season has

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Speaker 2: six or seven touchdowns to contribute, maybe some important plays

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Speaker 2: to extend drives, some acrobatic plays like we've seen all

843
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Speaker 2: through training camp. Those are the things that I'm looking

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Speaker 2: for from him. Make an impact as a rookie. That's

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Speaker 2: what I'm banking on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just live up to and exploit the potential that

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Speaker 1: his physical traits say he has. I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to he's going to be a really good player at

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Speaker 1: this level. He seems to have the right mentality and

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00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: the right attitude. Obviously everybody loves his attitude and they

851
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: think he's really fair. But that along with that is

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00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: a competitive nature. And everybody says, well, everybody likes to compete. Yeah,

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00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: everybody likes to compete. But when you really like to compete,

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00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: you really like to prepare to compete. Well, you don't

855
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Speaker 1: just show up on game day and say, let's let's

856
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Speaker 1: see if I can win. You prepare in the days

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00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: leading up to be successful because you don't want to lose.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to you know, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: be that guy. And Keon Coleman has that in his

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Speaker 1: makeup Great Competitors. Yeah, they're guys who like to compete

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Speaker 1: and go hard, But they're the guys who don't forget

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Speaker 1: about the competition when they're away from it. They compete

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Speaker 1: all the time. When they're in the weight room, they're competing,

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Speaker 1: when the practice field, they're competing, when they're watching film,

865
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Speaker 1: they're competing, when they're learning the game plan, they're competing.

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Speaker 1: All of that goes into getting on the field and winning.

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Speaker 1: Those are guys like Coleman. Yep, you know that's why

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Speaker 1: I have high hopes for that guy.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside here and take a break.

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Speaker 2: But when we come back, going to be joined by

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Speaker 2: our good friends senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co cell,

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Speaker 2: to talk Bill's roster and Bill's outlook as we get

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Speaker 2: ready for the regular season. We'll see what Greg co

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Speaker 2: Sell thinks of Buffalo's fifty three man roster when we

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Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 9: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and please to be

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Speaker 2: joined now by senior producer from NFL Films and also

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Speaker 2: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup show. It is Greg

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Speaker 2: co Sell joining us on the line. Now that Buffalo's

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Speaker 2: roster is set. Look, Greg, I know that you don't

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Speaker 2: bog yourself down with roster makeup per se, but maybe

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Speaker 2: at the skill positions. What is most attractive to you

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Speaker 2: on offense about the skill positions for Buffalo? What stands

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Speaker 2: out knowing the changes they underwent.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, obviously it's a different receiving corps. So

889
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 10: that's the first thing you notice. I mean the back situation.

890
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Speaker 10: James Cook will be the starter. Obviously, it looks like

891
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Speaker 10: Ray Davis has won of the job is the backup.

892
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Speaker 10: And I think that's a good mix right there, because

893
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Speaker 10: Ray Davis is a different kind of back than Cook.

894
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Speaker 10: And I think we all agree that we like Ray Davis.

895
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Speaker 10: I really liked his tape coming out of college last year.

896
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Speaker 10: But you just look at the receivers. That's where it's different.

897
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Speaker 10: I mean, Khalil Shakir is still there. He's a guy

898
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Speaker 10: that can I would imagine, will predominantly play inside as

899
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Speaker 10: he did a year ago, but he can move around.

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Speaker 7: So then you have.

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00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 10: Samuel Curtis Samuel, You've got Max mac Collins, You've got

902
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Speaker 10: Kean Coleman, the rookie so and you still have val

903
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Speaker 10: desk Galing who can run but has always struggled a

904
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Speaker 10: bit with consistency in catching the ball. So you really

905
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Speaker 10: look at the receiver group and you know, not being

906
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Speaker 10: there every day at practice that normally takes time. That

907
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Speaker 10: normally takes time for a quarterback to feel comfortable. So

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Speaker 10: I think that's the number one thing you would look

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Speaker 10: at with this offense in terms of personnel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that one of the narratives coming

911
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Speaker 1: out of Bills camp is the fact that they're not

912
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Speaker 1: going to have that number one guy who every time

913
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Speaker 1: he comes in the huddle is going to be target one.

914
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Speaker 1: Should give at least Josh Allen mentally the freedom to

915
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Speaker 1: throw to any receiver he wants plus right plus with

916
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Speaker 1: a guy like with the tight end you know, Dawson

917
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Speaker 1: Knox and Dalton Kincaid, particularly Kincaid as being a really

918
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Speaker 1: top flight receiving option, that does change the equation for

919
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Speaker 1: Buffalo's offense and how they're going to be defended without question.

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Speaker 10: So raises the question as to what will be the

921
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Speaker 10: balance between playing and of course we're talking now in

922
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Speaker 10: normal down in distance, not necessarily third and long. What

923
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Speaker 10: will be the balance between playing between twelve personnel where

924
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Speaker 10: they have one back and two tight ends Kinkaiden Knox

925
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Speaker 10: who can both detach from the formation and basically lineup

926
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Speaker 10: as wide receivers versus the percentage of eleven personnel where

927
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Speaker 10: they play with one back, one tight end, and three

928
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Speaker 10: wide receivers. So you know, early on, maybe it's possible

929
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Speaker 10: you see more of twelve personnel until the receivers sort

930
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Speaker 10: of show who they are. I mean, obviously they want

931
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Speaker 10: Keyan Coleman to become kind of the guy and be

932
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Speaker 10: their sort of their ex receiver who you can line

933
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Speaker 10: up to the boundary where he gets a lot of

934
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Speaker 10: one on one matchups and ideally win and really have

935
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Speaker 10: Josh Allen feeling confident that he can throw the ball

936
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Speaker 10: to him even if it appears that he's covered, because

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Speaker 10: he does have great size, great hands, and the ability

938
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Speaker 10: to make tough contested catches. But you never know, you guys,

939
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Speaker 10: you know you've been doing this a long time. You

940
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 10: never know with the rookie until it kind of happens.

941
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Speaker 2: In the regular season, eight of the ten draft choices

942
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Speaker 2: for the Bills made the roster greg and on the

943
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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, I guess the most notable

944
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Speaker 2: ones would be Dwayne Carter and Javon Solomon, you know,

945
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Speaker 2: who are both going to be part of that eight

946
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Speaker 2: man rotation that the Bills typically employ on the defensive

947
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Speaker 2: side of the ball on game day. I know we've

948
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: talked to you about Solomon before. Is there anything about

949
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter's game that catches your eye. I believe you

950
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Speaker 2: liked his tape coming out.

951
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Speaker 4: I did.

952
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 10: He struck me as just a real solid guy, you know.

953
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Speaker 10: In other words, I didn't necessarily see him as a dominant,

954
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Speaker 10: dominant type player. Is it possible down the road he

955
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Speaker 10: could become that guy? I mean, you know, theoretically, you

956
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 10: never know how a guy develops over time. So I'm

957
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Speaker 10: not going to sit here and say that he can't become,

958
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Speaker 10: you know, a better player per se than he than

959
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 10: I think he showed on tape. But I think he's

960
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 10: a really really solid player who can play multiple positions

961
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Speaker 10: along your defensive front. You know, I don't think he's

962
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Speaker 10: a defensive end, so I don't think you'll see him

963
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 10: outside very much. But you know, I think he's one

964
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Speaker 10: of those guys that you know, he's got some off

965
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 10: the ball quickness, He's got natural power. I wouldn't call

966
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Speaker 10: him explosive. I wouldn't say he's flexible, but I think

967
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Speaker 10: that there were times he did look quick in in

968
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 10: confined space. I would say he's more of a power

969
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 10: player than an athletic player, but he's you know, I

970
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 10: think he's just one of those really solid, rotational interior

971
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Speaker 10: D linemen.

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Speaker 1: We had a chance to hear Sean McDermott also talk

973
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Speaker 1: a little bit about about Dwayne Smoot, who, Yeah, it

974
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Speaker 1: was an eight year guy who's been around, and he

975
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: said he really had a good camp, kind of like

976
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: a real veteran, savvy, smart dude. What are your thoughts

977
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: about Smooth as a player.

978
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Speaker 7: I like Smoot.

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Speaker 10: I've always liked Smoot ever since he came out of college,

980
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 10: which you said eight years. Wow, I can't believe that's

981
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 10: the case. But he can play inside, he can play outside,

982
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 10: He's got some pass rush to him. I thought that

983
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 10: was a really good pickup because he's one of those

984
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 10: sort of versatile B linemen that can do a lot

985
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Speaker 10: of things for you. And as I said, depending on

986
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Speaker 10: how they want to line up their fronts and what

987
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Speaker 10: they want to do with specific personnel usage against specific opponents,

988
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Speaker 10: Smooth can play inside or outside. That was a really

989
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 10: good pickup in my opinion.

990
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 2: Knowing how much film you watch, I know you usually

991
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Speaker 2: do offense and defense mostly, Greg, Have you spent any

992
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: time looking at the new dynamic kickoff through the course

993
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: of the preseason.

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00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 10: I mean, I've just seen in a couple of preseason

995
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 10: games that I took a peek at. I don't have

996
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 10: a strong feeling one way or the other. I mean,

997
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 10: obviously they want the kickoff to be more of a factor.

998
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 10: It looks like, you know, kind of a glorified running play. Now.

999
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 10: The weirdest part for me, Brownie is when the ball's

1000
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 10: kick seeing nobody move that. I mean I almost had

1001
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 10: to kind of get used to that. You know, you

1002
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 10: watch the ball kicked off, Steve, you must think this

1003
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 10: is nuts. You know, they back you play, the ball

1004
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 10: gets kicked off and nobody moves.

1005
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's strange, it's it's It was the

1006
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: same thing when when they get a standing started doing

1007
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: a standing start with the kickoffs the last six or

1008
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: seven years. You know, now they're going even a step

1009
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: further and putting everybody down close to the ball carrier,

1010
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: and really that it's obvious what they're trying to do.

1011
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: They don't want big, strong dudes running in opposite directions,

1012
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: not trying to avoid each other.

1013
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously, you know, you get

1014
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 10: guys are getting bigger and faster and more athletic and

1015
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 10: more explosive, and they just don't want guys with running starts.

1016
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Speaker 7: You know, they're trying to prevent injury.

1017
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 10: Obviously, they also want to play to come back into

1018
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 10: the game as a meaningful play. Because now I'm no

1019
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 10: expert on this whatsoever, but just heard people talk, it

1020
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 10: seems like the way you block this, it's more like

1021
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 10: a running play than which which I guess it was

1022
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 10: anyway for you. But still it just looks more like

1023
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 10: that now because they're closer together.

1024
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Speaker 1: Right, and it's it looks like the end of a

1025
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Speaker 1: of a running play in the broken field, right, I mean,

1026
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: so you got a lot of traffic and and they're

1027
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: given they're given the return guy some space, but they're

1028
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: not giving him that much. They're not giving him time.

1029
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: You know, they're giving him some space, but he doesn't

1030
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: have much time. And I think the timing of it

1031
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: is going to be really the crucial factor that sets

1032
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: really good return teams from from guys who are from

1033
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: teams who are not so good, as how the return

1034
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: blockers engage the coverage guy and how in relation to

1035
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: that moment and where the return guy hits it or

1036
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: how fast he hits it. The timing is going to

1037
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Speaker 1: be the crucial element is to be successful or not.

1038
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Speaker 1: And I think given the way the kick is unpredictable,

1039
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Speaker 1: it's going to be to anticipate.

1040
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it'll be Uh. You certainly would know more about

1041
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 7: this than I would.

1042
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Speaker 10: But you know, I think, as I said, I think

1043
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Speaker 10: the two main things is they want to ideally limit

1044
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 10: injuries and they want the return to become a more

1045
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 10: significant part of the game. Again, I mean because theoretically

1046
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 10: it was an exciting part of the game. You know,

1047
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 10: every once in a while you'd see guys return go

1048
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 10: for a touchdown that.

1049
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 7: Was kind of lost.

1050
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody returns them anymore, particularly returned them. Yeah, have

1051
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: just say forget it. We're gonna kick it out of

1052
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: the end zone. You can have the ball wherever they

1053
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: put it, and we're not We're not giving you up

1054
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: the big play now and now your pigeon don't return it.

1055
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 10: Isn't it if you kick it out of the end zone,

1056
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 10: doesn't the ball come out a little.

1057
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 7: Further than it was fo Yeah?

1058
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 10: The thirty Yeah, as opposed to the twenty five and

1059
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 10: you know, maybe that doesn't seem like a lot, but

1060
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Speaker 10: it is a lot.

1061
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Greg, The Bills picked up quarterback Mike White

1062
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: added them to their practice squad. It's somewhat injury insurance

1063
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: with Mitchell Trubisky going down with a knee injury in

1064
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 2: the ba Burg preseason game a couple of weeks ago,

1065
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: and his status is still very much up in the

1066
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Speaker 2: air for Week one. What is your book on Mike White,

1067
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, as a backup quarterback in this league?

1068
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's his role.

1069
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 10: I think we've seen over the years that when he

1070
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Speaker 10: plays in in kind of short bursts, that he can

1071
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 10: play reasonably well. You know, he's a guy got he

1072
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 10: I remember watching him in college.

1073
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Speaker 7: He was Western Kentucky. If I believe, if.

1074
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 10: Our a call, yes, And you know the thing about

1075
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 10: a guy like Mike White is he tends to be

1076
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 10: very aggressive, which you know, theoretically is a positive. But

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Speaker 10: he may not be the kind of guy from an

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 10: ability standpoint that can play like that, but you can

1079
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Speaker 10: certainly put him out there. He's tough in the pocket.

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Speaker 10: Is he had dinner with Matt Milano anytime recently?

1081
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Speaker 7: You know, since.

1082
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he joked about that. He said, the next time

1083
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: we have practice in the stadium, he'll be looking for

1084
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Speaker 2: a piece of his rib at the thirty five yard line.

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Speaker 2: So he remembers, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, it's funny. I mean I say this, Look,

1087
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 10: every team wants to have a quality backup, but it

1088
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 10: reminds me with the Bills in particular, when a number

1089
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 10: of years ago I was sitting at the bar at

1090
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 10: the JW. Marriy at the Combine with Tom Moore and

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01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 10: he told me an unbelievably great story. And you guys,

1092
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 10: if you've heard Tom Moore speak, you know, you know

1093
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 10: I can't pretend to talk like Tom Moore. But we

1094
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 10: were talking about backup quarterbacks and somehow it came up

1095
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 10: and he said, you know, we never gave our backup

1096
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 10: quarterback any reps at all in Indianapolis when Peyton Manning

1097
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 10: was there, and the bottom line was and he tells

1098
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 10: it great. Of course, way better that I'm going to

1099
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 10: but it's still very funny. And I asked him why

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01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 10: and he said, well, if Peyton can't play, we're ft.

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01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 7: And he said, we don't really practice being.

1102
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 10: Ft, so you know, yeah, so you wonder about that

1103
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 10: sometimes with the Bills, like the whole everything about their team,

1104
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 10: you know, not just their offense, would if Josh can't go.

1105
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: That's right, I've been Yes, we've been talking about that

1106
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: for quite a while, ever since a couple of weeks

1107
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: ago when Mitch Trubisky did not look so great against

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears.

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01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 7: Oh he did not.

1110
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: He did not. So he's been a topic of conversation

1111
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: as we moved along. So let me ask you this,

1112
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: who do you think has the best situation as a

1113
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: backup in the league.

1114
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 7: Overall? In the entire league?

1115
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think is there somebody that jumps out?

1116
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: Because you got these teams like like Jacoby Brissett and

1117
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: Drake May, they can't decide which one's better, or they

1118
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: can't decide which one they want to play.

1119
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 10: They know that Drake May is going to be the guy.

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Speaker 10: They just you know, look, they open their season in Cincinnati.

1121
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 10: They probably feel that's not the best way for Drake

1122
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 10: May to start his career, especially behind an offensive line

1123
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 10: that probably, to be kind is they work in progress.

1124
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 10: So you know, God, I'm trying now to think of

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 10: all the teams in the league that's that's a tough

1126
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 10: thing right off the bat. You know, there's certainly backups

1127
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 10: now that have started in the league, and you know

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Speaker 10: meaningfully and you probably feel a lot more comfortable. I mean, look,

1129
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 10: there's guys like I think the Chargers just traded for

1130
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 10: him too. There's guys like Tyler Heineke who you can

1131
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 10: put out Tyler Heineke for sure and you can feel

1132
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 10: good that he's going to play reasonably well.

1133
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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, no one's gonna view him as a six I

1135
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 10: should say, a seventeen game starter now, but you can

1136
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 10: play with a guy like Taylor Heinike. So there's certainly

1137
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 10: guys like that that you're very comfortable with, right Greg.

1138
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: Do you do you feel like things are different in

1139
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: this division with a healthy Aaron Rodgers. You know, Miami

1140
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: is a team that people still think a lot of,

1141
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: but it's hard for me to get there knowing that

1142
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: they've got their third defensive coordinator and third defensive system

1143
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: in three years, and it typically takes time to gain.

1144
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: The Jets defense always gives the Bills problems. Do you

1145
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: feel like it's a more tightly packed division than we've

1146
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: seen in recent years because of some of the changes.

1147
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, assuming that Aaron Rodgers can play, you know, at

1148
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 10: a reasonably good level. Maybe he's not Aaron Rodgers or

1149
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 10: six years ago, but assuming he's, you know, a good player.

1150
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 10: It's funny that you mentioned the Jets defense. I was

1151
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 10: watching them this morning, and they're really good. And they've

1152
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 10: got a ton of pass rushers who can win one

1153
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 10: on one matchups. They can all win with speed to power,

1154
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 10: and that's where it all starts. I mean, you saw

1155
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 10: what Rousseau did to Broderick Jones in the in the

1156
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 10: just the preseason game. When you can win with speed

1157
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 10: to power, that's the starting point for every pass rusher

1158
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 10: in the league, any offensive lineman, I'll tell you that.

1159
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 10: And they are really really good up front. They've got

1160
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 10: two really good linebackers. I think their schemes really good.

1161
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 10: I mean the Jets theoretically, and I know we're talking

1162
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 10: before the season starts and you never know, but you

1163
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 10: could look at the Jets if their offense can be good.

1164
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 10: I mean, obviously they improve their own line. They've got

1165
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 10: good running backs, they've got some receivers. The Jets could

1166
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 10: be a really difficult assignment for for anybody. If Aaron

1167
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 10: Rodgers can play at a reasonably good level because that

1168
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 10: defense is good.

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would I would agree. We've we've thought that

1170
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: as well. But if you look at Aaron Rodgers, who's forty,

1171
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: he's got to take a thousand snaps to get through

1172
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: a regulars, a regular season, and that's a lot. That's

1173
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, And it's it's it's not for the

1174
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: faint of heart, let alone a guy even though he's like,

1175
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: what now, it's gonna be three years removed from back

1176
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: to back MVPs, right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And and and look, I know everybody talked about

1178
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 10: how miraculous the coming back from the Achilles was, but

1179
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 10: you know, that's not just a routine injury. Uh Now,

1180
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 10: I know medicine today and all that's better than it

1181
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 10: was years ago. And maybe he'll be fine, but that's

1182
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 10: certainly not a room teen injury.

1183
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: Greg. Thanks for the time. We appreciate it. We look

1184
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: forward to catching up with you on a weekly basis

1185
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: once we get once we get to the regular season,

1186
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: we'll preview Arizona with you next week.

1187
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 10: I can't wait. I watched a ton of them in

1188
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 10: the off season. Just for you, Brownie, just for you,

1189
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 10: all right.

1190
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. We'll we'll discuss it next week. I

1191
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: look forward to it.

1192
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 7: All right, thanks guys.

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: All right, that's Greg co Sell joining us, and he'll

1194
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: be joining us on a weekly basis once we get

1195
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: the regular season rolling next week. We'll preview Arizona with

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: him next Friday after the Labor Day holiday. Got to

1197
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: get back to the phone lines though, at eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1199
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: two five point fifty as we are asking you today,

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01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: what is the one off season move or decision that

1201
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: you are banking on for the Bill's fortunes here in

1202
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, back to the phones we go, and

1203
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: we go to Ryan in Toronto. What do you got

1204
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: for us? Ryan?

1205
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 8: Steam Love the.

1206
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 11: Show, guys by King of Topics. I saw something on

1207
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 11: EA ESPN that really shocked me how Josh Allen was

1208
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 11: rated number one over rated player player by his peers.

1209
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 11: I don't want to hear touks on it. I'm really shocked.

1210
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're polling other players in the league. It's funny.

1211
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: Josh was asked about that and he said, you know,

1212
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: all these polls happen all the time where they talk

1213
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: to players. I've never been asked any of these questions.

1214
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: No one's ever called me and polled me. And I

1215
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: think a lot of the overrated stuff, at least from

1216
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: those that voted him as such, pointed to his interceptions,

1217
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: and look, he's got a lot of interceptions. We're not

1218
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: going to debate that for a second. But I think

1219
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: they ignore the fact that through his first six seasons

1220
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL, no one in the history of the

1221
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: league has more touchdowns than him. The league is one

1222
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: hundred and ten years old. He is number one in

1223
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: touchdown production over any other in the history of the league.

1224
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's overrated. How is that? Somebody

1225
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: helped me with that?

1226
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: And I think too some of it is a lot

1227
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: of There's a lot of conversation about Josh Allen every season,

1228
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: even when it's sometimes negative because you know, guys, people

1229
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: will talk about his turnovers or whatever. And you know,

1230
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: the reason he hasn't won an MVP already is because

1231
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: people have this this hang up with his interception thing,

1232
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: and he scores more touchdowns than anybody. Certainly he puts

1233
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: the ball at risk, and Bill's fans will say it's

1234
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: the cost of doing business. He is still the most

1235
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: compelling player in the league to watch, even if he's

1236
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: in a losing effort. He's as compelling as anybody. So yeah,

1237
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: and I listen. To get overrated, you have to be rated.

1238
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: He is rated as highly as anybody. And there may

1239
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: be And I think out of the one hundred and

1240
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: three guys they hold in that article that you mentioned, Ryan,

1241
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:09,959
Speaker 1: only eleven of them voted for Josh probably probably because

1242
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, they know who he is. I mean, there's

1243
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: a couple of guys I would put on the list

1244
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: ahead of him, But nevertheless, you know, joshuall use this fuel. Certainly,

1245
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. I in fact, I I

1246
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: think people make too much of his interceptions and I

1247
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: think they discount him too much because of it. So

1248
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: you'll get people on both sides of that equation. But yeah,

1249
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: anytime they put that out a pole like that, they

1250
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: put the most surprising result on the headline. That's why

1251
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: they put Josh Allen being the most most overrated player,

1252
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: because it's the most surprising part of that entire pole.

1253
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: So there you go.

1254
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Mark and or is

1255
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: he city? What's up? Mark?

1256
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 12: Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call out slow

1257
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 12: hanging fruit. Also want to get your take on a

1258
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 12: situation the same similar position, another team wide receiver the group,

1259
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 12: but obviously Coleman.

1260
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 5: I geez.

1261
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 12: I mean, if if I'm going to try to forecast

1262
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 12: how they're going to use him, I'd go back to

1263
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 12: New Orleans. Look at Michael Thomas, look at Marquise Colston.

1264
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 12: I think he's going to be that type of guy

1265
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 12: for the Bills, particularly in the red zone. You have

1266
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 12: Curry on staff, now Brady, their history there in New

1267
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 12: Orleans with Sean Payton, I wouldn't look at that. But

1268
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 12: I'm like Steve, I think people are really sleeping on Shakir.

1269
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 12: I just saw them lean into that those two concage

1270
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 12: Shakir and they they produced. I mean, I know his

1271
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 12: touchdowns weren't up there, but there was a couple of

1272
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 12: situations where he was was one in Miami, there was

1273
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 12: I think the one in uh. I want to call

1274
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 12: them the chart of San Diego chart, but they're the

1275
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 12: LA scored there. It was He's gonna I think he's

1276
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 12: gonna take off. But Coleman definitely just a group as

1277
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 12: a whole. I would say, and that the Brandon I

1278
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 12: you Trent Williams saying they are He's not practicing again today.

1279
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 12: I think Chase is Jamar is not. And I think

1280
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 12: those two organizations really not moving on from certain guys

1281
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,879
Speaker 12: or paying other guys really hamstrung them. Because Trent Williams

1282
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 12: has no compunction about not playing games, did it for

1283
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 12: Washington for almost two years. And I know he had

1284
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 12: cancer situation. But you see the Lamb money getting thrown around,

1285
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 12: you see the Jefferson. These guys are just not gonna play.

1286
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 12: And then what they did in Cincinnati, Oh, we're gonna

1287
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 12: just hang on to hot Higgins, not move him, get

1288
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 12: something for him. And then you have another petulant guy.

1289
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 12: Maybe with Chase.

1290
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 13: These guys they're gonna like Steve, you always say it.

1291
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 13: These guys, if they get a nick, why are they

1292
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 13: They might take it out of gear. They're like, why

1293
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 13: am I going to go out there and risk it?

1294
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 13: Not push through it if there's no money on the

1295
01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 13: table for me? Thanks for taking my call.

1296
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is some sticky situations for sure. I think

1297
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: though Jamar Chase may have met his match in Mike Brown, though,

1298
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about a guy that

1299
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: will dig his heels in and not care. It's Mike Brown.

1300
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 2: That guy says, you're not getting paid this year. You're

1301
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: not getting paid this year, and that's right, and he's

1302
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: not changing. So Jamar Chase may feel like he is

1303
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 2: going to impact the bengals fortunes this year by sitting

1304
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: out and it will compel Mike Brown to move off

1305
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: of his position. History has told us that is not happening.

1306
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to happen. They they don't budge.

1307
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: When they sign a contract, they honor it and they

1308
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: expect the player to as long as you're in that building,

1309
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: they'll they'll do whatever that contract says they have to

1310
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 1: do until they get a better player, just like that's

1311
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: the way football is. The Brown The Bengals have always

1312
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 1: been an organization that is predictable. They don't sign guys

1313
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: to extensions early. I don't know that they did that

1314
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow. Did they do it before his last

1315
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: year of Yes, rookie quarterbacks different. The issue with Jamar

1316
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: Chase is he still has two years left on.

1317
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 2: His current contract.

1318
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere.

1319
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Mike Brown is not touching that deal until next year.

1320
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: And I think he's kind of said as much. He's

1321
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 2: not ripping up a deal with two years left on

1322
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: it because he wants to get the value out of

1323
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: that deal. That's just how Mike Brown operates, and I

1324
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: don't think anybody's going to be able to move him

1325
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: off of it.

1326
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with them doing it too

1327
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: with two years left on the deal, get to the

1328
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: last year of the contract, because then the club has

1329
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: some benefit for doing it as well, because on a

1330
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: rookie contract, the last year is always the most lucrative

1331
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: and once they pick up the option year on a

1332
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: first rounder, that money gets guaranteed anyway, so you know

1333
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: you're going to get that. And then so if when

1334
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: you get to that point, the club can mitigate the

1335
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: cap hit, that's why they would. They would tear up

1336
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: that contract in the last year, mitigate the cap hit,

1337
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: give you that money that you're going to get anyway,

1338
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: plus some and then spread it out over the subsequent

1339
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: years of the contract. They financially it makes sense for

1340
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: them to do it, but not until the last year

1341
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: the deal is inforced, and that's you know, the players.

1342
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: The only recourse the player has is to withhold his services,

1343
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: and that's what Jamar Chase is doing. As uncomfortable and

1344
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: as awkward as you may think it is, and it is.

1345
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: He'll go to work and just not play.

1346
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Trent Williams feels he's dealing from a position

1347
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: of strength because the difference between him and the next

1348
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 2: guy on their roster is a precipitous drop off. I

1349
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: mean right now on their depth chart their fifth round

1350
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty one, Jalen Moore is his backup. I

1351
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: don't know if they would go that way or whether

1352
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: they flip Colton mckivitz to the other side and then

1353
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: put that kid in it right tackle, but he knows

1354
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: the depth at that position on the forty nine Ers

1355
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: roster is not good, so he kind of has them

1356
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: between a rock and a hard place. And the Niners

1357
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: have cap space. To believe it or not, they have

1358
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: cap space. At least from the latest figures I saw,

1359
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: they have thirty something million in cap space right now.

1360
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: They're like sixth or seventh in the league, which is stunning.

1361
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: And that's why Ayuk is like, where's my money. That's right,

1362
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 3: where's my money? You get these teams that are and

1363
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: they don't have a leg to stand on. Even the

1364
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers, whose roster has notoriously been

1365
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 3: top heavy, you know what I mean, they got a

1366
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 3: lot of really good players.

1367
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: They got Deebo Samuels, Jose Ayuk's already making fourteen, Fred Warner,

1368
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: George Kittle, you, Javon Hargrave. So they've got some guys

1369
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: out there that are making some money. And you know,

1370
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: he gets not very far down the list before. You

1371
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: got guys making just between one and two million dollars.

1372
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: And that's a lot of guys on your roster that

1373
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: are footing the bill for the top guys.

1374
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see how those two situations play

1375
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: out in San Francisco and how the Cincinnati one plays

1376
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: out as we get closer and closer to week one,

1377
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: got to take a break here. When we come back,

1378
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by the wing King, Drew

1379
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: Cerza in studio because once again Wingfest is taking place

1380
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 2: here on Labor Day weekend at high Mark Stadium. We'll

1381
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: have all the details for you next here on One

1382
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Stay with us all right back here on

1383
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and join now

1384
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 2: in studio by the Wing King Drew Serza as he

1385
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: ramps up and gets ready for final preparations for National

1386
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo Wing Fest Year twenty three, which will be out

1387
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: here at high Mark Stadium for Labor Day weekend. Drew,

1388
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: thanks for popping in pleasure. Why don't we start with

1389
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 2: start time end time, because this isn't just a one

1390
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: day deal. I mean, this is you know, if you

1391
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 2: can't get out on one day, it doesn't mean you've

1392
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: missed your opportunity to take in the Wing Festival.

1393
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 14: Right, It's this this weekend, Saturday and Sunday, twelve to

1394
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 14: nine on Saturday and twelve to seven and Sunday, and

1395
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 14: get tickets right at the gate, got all the fun

1396
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 14: stuff again and got a little something special. On Saturday night,

1397
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 14: we have Armed Forces Night and we're gonna be honoring

1398
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 14: Western New York heroes and Chris Kreeger with the Community

1399
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 14: Service Award, and we're gonna allow all servicemen, veterans and

1400
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 14: active military in for free from six to nine, and

1401
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 14: we're gonna have a chicken wing contest between all the branches.

1402
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 4: Just oh wow, yeah, yeah, So.

1403
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to that's gonna get competitive.

1404
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna real fast, and you're gonna have the ability

1405
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: for people to vote on wings of their choice like

1406
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 1: Chicken Choice Award this year exactly.

1407
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 4: That's new Steve People's Choice Award.

1408
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 14: We're gonna have QR codes on the menus at each

1409
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 14: restaurant and you can vote on who you think your

1410
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 14: favorite Wayne en favorite restaurant is. And since it election year,

1411
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 14: we're gonna have some some side votes Wayne. You know

1412
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 14: Wayne's drums versus flats. We've already solved the blue cheese

1413
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 14: ranch questions. Yes, yeah, we're beyond that. You know what

1414
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 14: Levely heat you like and some other fun stuff.

1415
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we were talking before we came on here.

1416
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: The biggest change that people are going to probably notice

1417
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: is your layout. So why don't you just kind of

1418
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: go through that so people know what to expect when

1419
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: they come this year if they've been here in previous year.

1420
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 4: Right.

1421
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 14: One of the greatest things about leaving the Baseball Stadium

1422
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 14: Downtown is coming out where the Buffalo Bill's play and

1423
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 14: be able to go on the field. And in the

1424
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 14: past we've had some sponsors in the main stage on

1425
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 14: the field, but out of respect of the field, we

1426
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 14: brought everything up top, and also it was pretty challenging

1427
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 14: for some people to make.

1428
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 4: It all the way down those stories.

1429
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, and dangerous, you know, and you know it's

1430
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 14: a safety factor of respect to the field factor. So

1431
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 14: we're gonna put everything up top inside the gates on

1432
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 14: the concourse. So we'll be a big u where we

1433
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 14: had restaurant rod. We're gonna wrap it all the way around. Okay,

1434
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 14: if all the restaurants sponsors giveaways a main stage up

1435
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 14: on the same way.

1436
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 2: That will be very walkable.

1437
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:18,879
Speaker 4: Though it's very walkable.

1438
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: The tickets are like twenty bucks and twenty twenty one bucks.

1439
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Do you also have vip tickets available?

1440
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 5: What?

1441
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: You know? What do I have?

1442
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: If I want to blow the cash on a vip ta?

1443
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: What do I You know, what do I get?

1444
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 14: If you're going to go in style, you blow it

1445
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 14: on beer wings and the buffalo bills. Right, So for

1446
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 14: seventy five dollars from two to seven on Saturday in

1447
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 14: in the Toyota Club in Style. Uh, it's craft beer

1448
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 14: tastings of all the local craft beers from two to seven.

1449
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 14: So you can go in, try some samples, come out.

1450
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 14: We give you ten wing tickets to try some wings.

1451
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 14: We give you this souvenir plate so you can eat

1452
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 14: and drink at the same time, and some other chotskis,

1453
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 14: and you know you'll be in out out of the heat.

1454
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 14: If there's heat, If it rains a little bit, go inside.

1455
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 14: But it'll be a lot of fun.

1456
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, good.

1457
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: And then we should mention kids eating under are free, right, yes,

1458
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 2: no charge for parking.

1459
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 4: No parking for parking. You don't hear that office not out.

1460
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: Here, right, okay, So that's good. And then I think

1461
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: people just you know, they come to a wing festival,

1462
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: they're expecting and eating bonanza, which it obviously is. But

1463
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: you've also got music, right, like there's live music, entertainment

1464
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: and stuff too, and.

1465
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, three different stages with live music at each stage,

1466
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 14: all through the whole.

1467
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 4: Weekend, you know.

1468
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 14: And something I didn't mention was the charity component opponent

1469
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 14: of that VIP party, the Mafia Babes. They're awesome and

1470
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 14: each month they pick a different charity related to a

1471
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 14: Buffalo bill to give money to. So we're gonna make

1472
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 14: a nice donation through them to Friends of the Night

1473
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 14: people and also Hope rises that helps out kids and

1474
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 14: families with pediatric cancer.

1475
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean I think you guys have donated

1476
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 2: almost half a million dollars over the last twenty two years.

1477
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 14: The charitable Yeah, or seventy thousand and the last ten

1478
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 14: years including this year. It's feed more Western York in

1479
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 14: the all time associated with Association of Western York.

1480
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 4: So this is a big community event.

1481
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 14: It takes everybody to pull it together, but you know,

1482
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 14: it is about giving back the community.

1483
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know over one hundred stiles of wings,

1484
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 1: I mean there always is always in time you got

1485
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 1: these new I was reading the best release Maple bacon,

1486
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: jalapeno wings just out of that, smoked bourbon wings, Hawaiian

1487
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,799
Speaker 1: barbecue wings, Pineapple rum, whiskey apple bourbon, Cajun rum butter,

1488
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: spicy loganberry wings.

1489
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 14: These are all new, These are all new, sixty three

1490
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 14: new flavors.

1491
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 1: It's just sixty three.

1492
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: Have you tried the spicy loganberry because logan berry, like

1493
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: for Buffalo people, they know what a loganberry drink is

1494
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 2: and it's I mean, it's super sweet. But then to

1495
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: hear that there's spice mixed with that, I'm just like,

1496
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: what is that?

1497
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: Like?

1498
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 14: Oh, sweetened heat kind of taking over the world. Okay,

1499
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 14: I don't care if it's with just regular cooking or

1500
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 14: if it's with wings. And growing up as a kid,

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01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 14: I remember Crystal Beach and pounding Logan Bury like it

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01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 14: was going on a style. Now to spice that up,

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 14: I'm really interested to see that one.

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01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I think it's important to know that,

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01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: you know, while the National Buffalo Wing festil appropriately takes

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01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: place in Buffalo, you have people coming from all over

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01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: the country with entries, right.

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01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, so you know the wings. Actually, actually it's

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01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 14: a sixtieth anniversary of the chicken wing Okay, Anchor Bar

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01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 14: sixty years ago, and we're going to be celebrating that.

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 14: But you know what's happened is a lot of people

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 14: have left Buffalo and couldn't get good wings, so they

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01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 14: talked to Buddy had a restaurant to do it, or

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01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 14: they opened it up themselves, and that's how wings kind

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01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 14: of got around.

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01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 4: And then when the Bills went to four.

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01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 14: Straight Super Bowls, all you saw was cut ins about

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 14: Anchor Bar and eating wings, and then Pizza Hut and

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 14: Dominoes the all started selling wings. And I think America

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01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 14: was like Okay, we're brainwashed now football wings, football wings,

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 14: and we've invited nineteen of the best wingeries from across

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01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 14: the county and we've sampled their wings. And these are

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01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 14: places that are into wings. It's not like they've got

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01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 14: a little section of appetizers where these are our wing saw. No,

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01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 14: it's their major place. So when you come to the

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 14: wing Best, you meet these restaurant tours, you meet their staff,

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01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 14: you meet the energy and the fun they want to

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01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 14: be here, and you really feel it.

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01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: Okay, and you have.

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Speaker 1: There's forty six different states in the past have been there,

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01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: twenty six different countries show up. I mean it's yeah,

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01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: it's worldwide.

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01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, about seven or eight years ago.

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01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 14: I know, if you remember, Pete Kleary used to be

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 14: a baseball lumpire and used to be a sports guy.

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 4: God rest his soul.

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01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 14: He was following me around one day and he said,

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01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 14: you know, everybody comes up and shakes your hand. They're

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01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 14: from all parts of the country. Put up a map.

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01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 14: So we asked the tours and Bureau from Visit Buffalo

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01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 14: Niagara to come and put up a map. And they

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01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 14: bring people over and they put a little pushbin in

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01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 14: and that's what we got last year, all those people

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01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 14: from traveling in for the ultimate road trip to the Mecca.

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01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 2: Nice all right, So Saturday noon to nine, Sunday noon

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01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: to seven, two days to eat all the wings your

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01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: stomach will hold. And again. If you need more information,

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: you can go to Buffalowing dot com. But as we said,

1549
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: kids eight and under are free. Parking is free. General

1550
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: admission tickets twenty one dollars. You do get a one

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01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: dollar discount if you're paying cash, it's only twenty bucks.

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01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: VIP tickets seventy five simolians. Drew, good luck with it.

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01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: May the weather be on your side for favorable weather.

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01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: I think it's looking good though, right.

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01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: Looking good?

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01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 14: I forgot one last thing. Greg Russo will be there,

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01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 14: okay Russo So. He will be there from two to

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01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 14: four at the Empower Federal Credit Union ten. So no autographs,

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 14: but you get a chance to do a meet and

1560
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 14: greet and say hi.

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01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: Nice nice So Greg Russo will be there as well. Drew,

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01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, Good luck with it. Hoping suits

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01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: hit out of the park as usual. Thanks for Drew Serser.

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01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: You're wing king for wing Fest, which takes place this

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01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 2: weekend Saturday, and Sunday here at high Mark Stadium. Go

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01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 2: to Buffalo Wing dot com for more info. We're back

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01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: with more in a second. All right, Chris Brasse see

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Speaker 2: task for one segment ago here on one Bills Live

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: check in with some more comments on the tweet sheet.

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01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 2: In terms of what offseason mover decision you are banking

1571
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: on the most for the Bill's fortunes in twenty twenty four,

1572
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 2: Connor says the wide receiver room paying off. This is

1573
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: obviously a gamble from the front office to get younger

1574
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: and not have a true dedicated number one. I agree

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: with it since it allows Josh to take advantage of

1576
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: the play versus trying to find his number one guy.

1577
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: But once Dalton's taken away, who will rise to the challenge.

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01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: It's a valid concern, Steve, because if you think about

1579
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: opposing defenses, who in the receiving corps is worthy of

1580
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 2: game planning against to stop? It's probably Kincaid. So if

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01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: they do that, who steps up and starts to make plays?

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01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: Now, Here's one of the problems is we don't know.

1583
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: The Bills may feel like they have three guys like that.

1584
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Other teams don't know because the Bills haven't played him

1585
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: in the preseason. You don't know what they're thinking, and

1586
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: everybody's new, so to me, that's advantage Bills if indeed

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01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: they think they've got the guys they do, which I

1588
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious they do. Curtis Samuel has been

1589
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: a guy that's been completely under wraps. Khalil Shakir is

1590
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: a really tough guy to cover in the slot. He's

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01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: a really reliable receiver. King Kaid's a really reliable receiver.

1592
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: James Cook, don't forget, James Cook had like seventeen hundred

1593
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage last year. I think this Bill's offense

1594
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: is gonna be formidable. I think they're gonna have multiple

1595
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: ways they can beat you. They can beat you with

1596
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: the run game. They can beat you with a short

1597
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: passing game with a tight end and a running back,

1598
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: and they can They're gonna be able to beat you

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01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: down the field. And that's the one thing we haven't seen.

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01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: But you think teams aren't gonna cover guys who go deep.

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01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: You think they got a quarterback that doesn't have a

1602
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: strong arm, they can get it there fine, defend him

1603
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: like you don't believe it. We'll see if it will

1604
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: gets you. And by the way, too, not only can

1605
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: they run the football, not only can they throw the

1606
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: football to kinkaid and which they've proven they can do

1607
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: in playoff games, they also have a quarterback that can

1608
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: stiff arm your entire defense into the end zone. So

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01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: the Bills have multiple ways they can thump you on offense.

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01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: Most teams have don't have enough answers for that, and

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01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that's going to continue to be the case.

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01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: It is official, by the way, as the Bills have

1613
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: officially announced that they've signed safety Lewis Scene to their

1614
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: practice squad, So the former first round pick of the

1615
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Vikings now on Buffalo's practice squad roster. We go back

1616
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: to some of the comments on the tweetsheet here and

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01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: Andrew's up next and says, I'm banking on the decision

1618
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: that McDermott made by making Bobby Babbage the official play

1619
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: caller of the defense today. Can't wait to see Bobby

1620
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 2: at work. This also allows McDermott to concentrate on the

1621
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: whole team, not just one aspect. Yeah, we did discuss

1622
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: that earlier in the show, and there are Buffalo News

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01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: first reported that Sean mcder and himself has not confirmed

1624
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,879
Speaker 2: it publicly in a press conference setting, although the Buffalo

1625
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: News did quote him as admitting that that decision has

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01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 2: been made. So that's as good enough for me. And yeah,

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01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: we discussed that already, so I'll move on to the

1628
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: other one. Seth says, rolling with no true number one receiver,

1629
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: everyone eats. Shakiro will lead the team in catches, closely

1630
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: followed by Kincaid, but running backs and other wide receivers

1631
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: will get theirs too. Josh will get that elusive MVP

1632
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: this year thanks to scheme and mismatched potential. With these weapons,

1633
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 2: run game opens it up. Steve's kind of elaborated on

1634
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: the offense, so we get it.

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01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: I would agree with that tweet.

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01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: Yes, boleheartedly and very comprehensive as well. Quickly. Jedi Slayer

1637
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 2: says Curtis Samuel, drafted in Carolina during their transition, had

1638
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,799
Speaker 2: all the Swiss Army knife capabilities. Health and inconsistent quarterback

1639
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: play has always stunted his potential. If he can just

1640
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: be healthy, such a coin flip, but he can take

1641
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: the top off a D defense. We desperately need that.

1642
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: I kind of think he's going to be around the

1643
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage a lot more and make yards after

1644
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: the catch. I don't know if he's to me.

1645
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: This offense feels a little bit with notwithstanding Coleman, it

1646
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: has a little bit of the feel of you just

1647
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: can't get him off the field, Josh if It may

1648
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: be a little bit of dink and dunk, a little

1649
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: ball control, but I think it mixed it in there

1650
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: with a power running game that they have with Josh

1651
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 1: and others. It's a problem.

1652
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. Chris Trapasso in here with

1653
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Steve tomorrow. We'll catch it next week as well, after

1654
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 2: the Labor Day.

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Speaker 3: Holity