Speaker 1: Hello, while you fellow busting with the boys advocates, the puppies,
Speaker 1: the tiny little puppies. This is your guy, your dad,
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan speaking to you right now and as always,
Speaker 1: my special little guy will Compton, my little wolfie. He
Speaker 1: was a puppy and I was a pre puppy, preteen puppy,
Speaker 1: growing up so fast, grown, so proud of how fast
Speaker 1: you're growing up and a man and wolf you're becoming. Seriously,
Speaker 1: you make you make a father proud.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I can make you proud. I got brother.
Speaker 1: That's a week. I can't be a brother. And your
Speaker 1: dad you ain't my dad?
Speaker 2: Do you talk about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sorry, I got a guess today. I know MYOC,
Speaker 1: my offensive coordinator. We had Arthur Smith on and you know,
Speaker 1: not a lot, not a lot out there about Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith right now. Guy was has been with the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titan since twenty eleven and has worked his way up,
Speaker 1: scratched and clawed to become the offensive coordinator of an
Speaker 1: NFL franchise, which is a pretty cool story. A lot
Speaker 1: of things go into it. Though. Arthur's father started FedEx,
Speaker 1: and you think to yourself, this guy's probably a brat.
Speaker 1: He's probably a spoiled little brat.
Speaker 2: Little trust fun baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little trust fund baby. But the thing about
Speaker 1: this baby is this baby works his tail off and
Speaker 1: has made a self made man, which is a pretty
Speaker 1: unbelievable feat, especially with you know, growing up and having
Speaker 1: a father who is so successful, right right, It doesn't
Speaker 1: really happen.
Speaker 2: It happen a lot.
Speaker 1: He does have his own story. His sister's got his
Speaker 1: own story, which we get into that as well. Talk
Speaker 1: about a lot of things, man. At one point we
Speaker 1: even talked about psychedelics, so that's always a fun topic
Speaker 1: to jump into.
Speaker 3: Dude, he was good, man, he was insightful. He we
Speaker 3: ask some pretty solid questions too.
Speaker 1: We did a good job as well. You're right, sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta pump the tires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, if you're thinking about it,
Speaker 1: if you're on the fence of it, let me persuade
Speaker 1: you just a little bit. Let's jump on Twitter, jump
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Speaker 1: just start retweeting things. Just start retweeting everything, and just
Speaker 1: send us things. Maybe we think something is cool, guess what,
Speaker 1: we'll retweet it. And if Busting retweets it, I will
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Speaker 1: and Instagram. And if you're thinking I need a little
Speaker 1: video content, Taylor, I want to see your beautiful face
Speaker 1: and will and so you're thinking.
Speaker 2: Will and will beautiful smile?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a great smile, dude, you had a
Speaker 1: great smile. How did how were you born? With that?
Speaker 1: It's incredible. So YouTube you can go Busting with the Boys.
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Speaker 1: kind of bailed on it. It's a little too personal
Speaker 1: for me, but never too personal. If you have it
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Speaker 1: because I care, dude. I care about the bus and
Speaker 1: I care about the boys on the bus and the
Speaker 1: puppies and I care about the puppies, dude. You know why,
Speaker 1: because this bus can fill up all the puppies, dude.
Speaker 1: And if we ever think to ourselves we don't have
Speaker 1: enough space for all the puppies, we'll just buy a
Speaker 1: bigger bus, and we'll buy a mansion for the puppies, dude,
Speaker 1: and we'll call it the Denies, all the wolf puppies, dude.
Speaker 1: And you'll get your own little place and we'll take
Speaker 1: hey and we'll put it around and we'll put a
Speaker 1: bunch of hay around it, and then you guys can
Speaker 1: sleep there, so you comfy puppies. You can go from
Speaker 1: uncomfy puppies to very comfy puppies. Because you're on the
Speaker 1: street right now. You're on the street and you don't
Speaker 1: know what is going on in life. You're thinking, I
Speaker 1: need I need help. I need a caller and I
Speaker 1: need a leash. I need someone to guide me and
Speaker 1: feed me and give me belly RUPs. Guess what, if
Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, you're looking at them. If you're
Speaker 1: hearing me, then I'm coming through your Sarah Bellum baby
Speaker 1: to that other ear. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I feel you, dude, I feel you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel me?
Speaker 2: How do I feel you?
Speaker 3: I'm ready for Juice to drop that hook though you
Speaker 3: said you're what. I'm ready for Juice to drop them.
Speaker 1: I heard you the first time, but stop repeating yourself.
Speaker 1: Juice drop that hook, my baby.
Speaker 4: I do not have the bone right.
Speaker 2: What did you ask him earlier? You're like, uh, you
Speaker 2: use that thing?
Speaker 1: I've had sex, Yeah, Matt, So listen to this.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 1: Actually we can. This is gonna be the first question
Speaker 1: of our podcast. So you're busting with the boys, Art
Speaker 1: and you can. You can move that thing, bring it down.
Speaker 4: Dudes.
Speaker 1: It's very uncomfortable, I know, because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's all right, this whole thing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's a boy dude.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of fired up because Art and I got
Speaker 1: a lot of stories together, for sure. But you're busting man.
Speaker 1: So a couple of things. One, we got the AC going.
Speaker 1: You might hear that a little bit in your ears,
Speaker 1: And if anybody's listening, that's the AC because it's hot
Speaker 1: on the bus. About every thirty five minutes a train
Speaker 1: comes by, we'll we'll point it out.
Speaker 2: We'll take that paus and then we'll continue.
Speaker 3: So where do you think you go after you die?
Speaker 1: Personally? I don't. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody truly knows where we get that, don't
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 4: People came back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they talk about what they see.
Speaker 3: I think there's something out there to where there's you know,
Speaker 3: it's like some chemical that's released to where you think
Speaker 3: you see.
Speaker 2: The afterlife or whatever vision I think is pain. I
Speaker 2: think so yea.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: D m T is called the dream drugs and it's
Speaker 1: like a chemical release like I think when you're born
Speaker 1: and when you die, and that's what they say is
Speaker 1: like d d MT and you can chemically make it,
Speaker 1: like people talk about it all the time. So I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it is. But so okay, a
Speaker 1: lot of people say that, you know, that burning bush
Speaker 1: and from religious they say that like that had a
Speaker 1: chemical of d MT in it. So I don't and
Speaker 1: I'm not religiously. I don't understand a lot of those things.
Speaker 1: But the guy who was around the burning bush or
Speaker 1: saw the burning bush and got the tablets or whatever,
Speaker 1: it could have been d MT that had him see
Speaker 1: these these things.
Speaker 2: Oh So in a way of trying to kind of debunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody's always trying to bunk. It's it's
Speaker 1: a crazy, crazy gig.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how do you fact check somebody on that?
Speaker 5: I know, right, Yeah, Like who wants to try and say, Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna like tick myself to the brink of death
Speaker 5: and see if I can come back.
Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to take yourself to They call
Speaker 1: it blasting off like Urban Dictionary. It's they blasting off.
Speaker 1: It's like people taking shrooms or acid or stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Like people take that stuff and it's like apparently a
Speaker 1: fifteen minute thing and you just lay there and it
Speaker 1: takes you to like a weird universe apparently, Like Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan talks about that stuff all the time, how like
Speaker 1: it changed his life. Like d MT ayahuasca. Those are
Speaker 1: supposed to be like crazy hallucinogens that are like some
Speaker 1: wild stuff, wild wild stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's just creepy.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: It's scary, man. They they decriminalized mushrooms and in uh Colorado,
Speaker 1: which is just one so you can do it right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like not fully like illegal, it's not fully legal,
Speaker 1: but like like I guess people are turning more of
Speaker 1: a blind eye to everything now. Yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: crazy deal.
Speaker 4: It's like you.
Speaker 5: Ever hear about those like tech parties that have in
Speaker 5: Silicon Valley all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Oh you go not a rabbit hole. Read about some
Speaker 4: of those like tech Silicon Valley like parties. It's it's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they live like double life out there.
Speaker 3: I mean if you saw you saw what is it
Speaker 3: called Social Network? Do you ever see that movie that's
Speaker 3: the one they made Facebook? Yeah, yeah, Well they had
Speaker 3: a Silicon Valley party and that's when they're with like
Speaker 3: underage girls snorting coke.
Speaker 2: That's like minor supple.
Speaker 5: I think it's minor compared to the Yeah, there's been
Speaker 5: some articles about it. It's it's some wild stuff.
Speaker 2: You probably get in some deep places out there in La.
Speaker 1: Dude. I feel like cities like La Chicago, New York
Speaker 1: are so big that like it'd be almost uncomfortable because
Speaker 1: I'll never see the same person twice. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yeah, Like your sister, Your sister lives
Speaker 1: in La, right, yeah, and I'm sure like where does
Speaker 1: she live in La?
Speaker 5: She like just moved. She was in the Hollywood Hills,
Speaker 5: was she? Yeah, But it was just like traffic sucks
Speaker 5: so bad there. So like your orbit, it's like work,
Speaker 5: where do you hang out people? So it does get small,
Speaker 5: like I guess any city, but.
Speaker 2: You can get lost with all that stardom and celebrity type.
Speaker 1: Like you go down to Nashville, you go down Broadway
Speaker 1: like that's the main spot, but you can split off
Speaker 1: in their areas. Like National's not a huge city.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a big small town.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, So like I see the same people all
Speaker 1: the time I go out to eat, and also like
Speaker 1: three or four people that I know. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: when I'm in La everyone's just backdropped, Like I'm walking
Speaker 1: by people and these people are just like a scene
Speaker 1: in my movie. Yeah what I'm saying, that's a good description.
Speaker 1: It sounds because you're never gonna see those people again.
Speaker 2: Yeah you say your sister lives there?
Speaker 4: She does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wrote Okay, so I know this about your sister.
Speaker 2: She wrote. Was she the writer?
Speaker 4: She was not the writer?
Speaker 3: What was she for Cicario? The producer for Cicario? What
Speaker 3: other any other movies?
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's done a lot. The first one that she
Speaker 5: kind of got going on was PS I Love You, which.
Speaker 4: Is a movie with Hillary Swink that was that was
Speaker 4: probably fifteen.
Speaker 1: Years, such a phenomenal Movivie, such a great movie.
Speaker 5: Butler, Butler, She's got some great stories about different actors
Speaker 5: and actresses.
Speaker 4: She'd probably be more interested in me on this thing.
Speaker 2: We gotta get her on the bus, get her jump on.
Speaker 5: And then you know, the one that really got her
Speaker 5: going was The blind Side.
Speaker 1: She did The blind Side.
Speaker 4: She she helped get the script. She was one of
Speaker 4: the producer producers on it.
Speaker 5: And that story goes, you know, way back with my
Speaker 5: family because the family is from Memphis.
Speaker 4: Guy wrote the book. The script was floating around a
Speaker 4: lot of people looked at it and like, hey, this
Speaker 4: is probably too cheesy on the blind Side and the blind.
Speaker 5: Side, Yeah, it's like how do you make this movie
Speaker 5: without it looking like too family extreme, like nobody believes
Speaker 5: it or.
Speaker 2: Yeah like hey you ran fast on the street getting
Speaker 2: the car right.
Speaker 4: You know. So they took it, and I think a
Speaker 4: lot of putting maybe a basically just the story.
Speaker 5: What Molly told me was that's my sister, was that
Speaker 5: people in Hollywood is like, now, this will never work.
Speaker 5: It is not And then she was pretty adamant if
Speaker 5: it was done right with the right directors, the right
Speaker 5: actors and actresses that.
Speaker 4: It would it would hit.
Speaker 5: You never thought it would hit the way it did.
Speaker 5: And it came out and Believe for Thanksgiving and it
Speaker 5: just like just took off.
Speaker 2: D that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that kind of gave.
Speaker 5: Her a little cloud out there, and then she broke
Speaker 5: off and then she started her own uh production company,
Speaker 5: and then they had some you know, they buy and.
Speaker 4: Sell scripts all the time.
Speaker 5: It's most stuff she does, and then they they get
Speaker 5: the funding to make the movies, they go with it.
Speaker 2: So that's sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like it's like our business a little
Speaker 4: bit like you got She's had some really.
Speaker 5: Good ones and she's had ones that get these.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the other day with another guest,
Speaker 1: how like people are so afraid to fail now, right
Speaker 1: that if you go and you put yourself out there
Speaker 1: and things don't go well, it's like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 4: Fuck it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to go and you get to
Speaker 1: learn to go and learn, and then that's where you
Speaker 1: get to those kind of positions. You make a movie
Speaker 1: like The Blind set like Cecario.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's like it could be paralyzing to people.
Speaker 5: Most people they don't want to, Like, you, guys, put
Speaker 5: yourself out there and like everybody's watching you, and you
Speaker 5: go to you know, practice and meetings and you get
Speaker 5: picked apart, and like you gotta be very strong minded
Speaker 5: to go out get out there and do it. But
Speaker 5: you're putting yourself out there and understanding that you're gonna
Speaker 5: have failure. And most people don't even don't want that
Speaker 5: at all. They're like, like, who wants to live like that?
Speaker 5: Just paralyze in your fears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's things now more than ever too, because of
Speaker 1: social media. Social media, dude, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you crucified there.
Speaker 1: You get crucified out there. Like dudes like Kevin Durant, dude,
Speaker 1: arguably the best basketball player in the world, and he's
Speaker 1: got his own burner accounts that he's been caught on
Speaker 1: like numerous times. It's like, yo, dude, like you can't
Speaker 1: get like, if you're a wolf, you can't care about
Speaker 1: the opinions of sheep, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that is true.
Speaker 3: It's tough to hear because I love I love fucking
Speaker 3: being a wolf. But so I have a story on
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 6: Not.
Speaker 2: I don't have a burner account.
Speaker 3: But when social media you talk about not caring about
Speaker 3: that stuff like it's it's interesting how it can affect
Speaker 3: your psyche. Like there was a year we were playing
Speaker 3: the All where Ills on the Skins and we were
Speaker 3: playing the Cowboys and I had missed, like I had
Speaker 3: missed like two tackles in a row on Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 3: and the second one when my approach was happening, I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: in my head, I can't miss this one.
Speaker 2: You know, sure enough you think what you think, you
Speaker 2: become yet y'all all that stuff.
Speaker 3: But I'm on the bench thinking, I wonder what Twitter
Speaker 3: is saying about me right now?
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, yeah, vulnerable. I'll say it. I'll admit it.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that that In that moment, I knew.
Speaker 3: I had let that type of shit go too far
Speaker 3: with me to where I had to I had to reevaluate,
Speaker 3: you know, what I was feeding my mind, what I
Speaker 3: was kind of buying into. But and then hearing the
Speaker 3: durant stuff like that's crazy. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, you know, I'm not that surprised, because
Speaker 3: guys get so you can create such a I don't
Speaker 3: know insecurity about it because you're reading this shit about
Speaker 3: you and you get so worked up or wrapped up
Speaker 3: in what they're saying and what they're eating compared to
Speaker 3: the all the other great stuff in your fans. But
Speaker 3: you see that one negative and you're just like fixated
Speaker 3: on it, and you kind of like.
Speaker 2: Man, I wonder if my coaches think this way. I
Speaker 2: wonder if this person thinks this way.
Speaker 3: I wonder if you know coach already, if he thinks
Speaker 3: this way about me being a tight end or something,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then you do something
Speaker 3: to practice. You're like all that kind of mimics what
Speaker 3: so and so is saying. So I wonder my peers
Speaker 3: and my buddies they saw that same tweet and they're thinking,
Speaker 3: you can create such a damn just a snowball effect
Speaker 3: in your mind where you just start to fuck yourself a.
Speaker 1: Little bit, put yourself in a hole, man, yeah, yourself
Speaker 1: in a whole big time. And then you get exposed
Speaker 1: that the the like like even like it's go as
Speaker 1: far as like suicide. Like people are so affected by
Speaker 1: social media that like it it gets crazy too, where
Speaker 1: people are so messed up they think that they can't
Speaker 1: get any worse than this, or it can't get any
Speaker 1: better than this. Yeah, you know this is this is
Speaker 1: as worse as it can be. Like for me, I
Speaker 1: remember about three or four years ago, is when Malarkey
Speaker 1: was the head coach and we played the Raiders and
Speaker 1: the home opener and I went out and I like, uh,
Speaker 1: there was that pile taje and cut the ball and
Speaker 1: I went and I dived in the pile or whatever.
Speaker 1: I got crucified. Dude, I was. I was killed for that.
Speaker 1: Even Kirk kurb Street said something like, you're a fake
Speaker 1: tough guy. You're this, You're that. He and I have
Speaker 1: worked out our differences since then. We definitely have developed
Speaker 1: some sort of a relationship ever poor if you will.
Speaker 1: But dude, it's got It's like it's crazy and I
Speaker 1: get out and I get out there, and dude, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing, Like what's people saying like because
Speaker 1: in my head I'm like, dude, I lost this that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like because the pressure you put on yourself,
Speaker 1: you put so much pressure on yourself and you want
Speaker 1: to be that guy. Dude. Everybody, like everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be that dude, especially in sports. I'm sure you did
Speaker 1: when you were when you played at North Carolina, you
Speaker 1: were a guard and you were thinking yourself when you
Speaker 1: had a scholarship. You're like, I'm going to go to
Speaker 1: the NFL and I'm gonna be this. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the next great that you know.
Speaker 4: And you cared so much about what everybody said.
Speaker 5: And it's hard because you basically you're letting everybody in
Speaker 5: the world talk shit to you opening your phone, Like
Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying, Like the way that things evolved,
Speaker 5: Like you can open your phone and get online and
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, well, will Taylor, you guys, you're terrible.
Speaker 5: You played like shit or whatever, and you got to
Speaker 5: read that. So like it takes a lot of willpower
Speaker 5: to be like who cares right, because it will it
Speaker 5: can affect people's decision here exactly right. And then going
Speaker 5: back to the Facebook stuff, the best thing they ever did,
Speaker 5: which is kind of like an evil genius, was creating
Speaker 5: the like bud it's like a dopamine rush from people
Speaker 5: sitting there and like you see it happen to people
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, there's like studies posted pictures. It's like only
Speaker 4: got ninety something likes.
Speaker 5: I got one hundred and fifty likes, Like can message
Speaker 5: people psychology sends people on depression and those people can't
Speaker 5: separate that, Like all you're seeing is the best version
Speaker 5: of somebody's life if you get on Instagram. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: if you don't know that or whatever, like people getting
Speaker 5: this downwards viral about this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I give you guys a tweet back up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, It's like that's tough, I mean, because you guys
Speaker 5: are putting yourself out there and you're right, I mean,
Speaker 5: you're human, but you just got to find a way
Speaker 5: to say, like, look, you're never as great as somebody
Speaker 5: tells me I am, and it never as bad, right,
Speaker 5: really do, because sure everybody wants.
Speaker 4: To be complimented.
Speaker 5: But like you can know when you go to a
Speaker 5: bar right now, if you walk to the bar and
Speaker 5: you'd have like seven people may run up to you,
Speaker 5: and it's like, are what's their angle?
Speaker 4: Why is everybody being so nice.
Speaker 1: That it's not the seven people that come up to you,
Speaker 1: Because everyone that comes up to you is always gonna
Speaker 1: be nice to you. There's three or four in the
Speaker 1: back that are like, yo, look at this fucking asshole.
Speaker 3: Or that dude walks back to his group and he's like,
Speaker 3: I mean you were just trashing Taylor earlier.
Speaker 2: Like he's like, yeah, I mean I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: to his.
Speaker 1: Face, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the tweet right
Speaker 1: there from uh kerk Herbstreet You're an absolute fraud bro
Speaker 1: and yeah hashtag loafer, which of all the things he said,
Speaker 1: loafer hurt the most. Absolutely hurt me the most.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: But I remember seeing that, like, dude, because Kirk, dude,
Speaker 1: Kirk's like a staple of this town, just like Eddie George's,
Speaker 1: like Tim McGraw is like, and so I took down
Speaker 1: like dude, I got I'm getting killed out there, and
Speaker 1: every and everybody followed suit dude. People were super pissed
Speaker 1: for a good reason too. It wasn't a smart play.
Speaker 1: You think about finishing all the time, And I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't even hit a defender. I just I like
Speaker 1: basically gave to Marco a concussion.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: I smacked him, Yeah, I smacked him up a little bit.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of it's kind of that human humanizing
Speaker 3: factor and element too, Like you just you said it earlier,
Speaker 3: like you want to be the dude, like you want.
Speaker 2: To seem like you're unfaceable, you're untouchable.
Speaker 3: You see somebody else and you're like, the way he
Speaker 3: cares himself, he must not.
Speaker 2: He must he must be like there's no way that
Speaker 2: he thinks like the way I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you kind of do that whole compared they like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're in you're a new oc like in
Speaker 3: the coaching world, Like coaches got to be numb to
Speaker 3: that stuff too, And I think there's a maturity about
Speaker 3: it to where like back on my situation, you kind
Speaker 3: of have that you can't teach experience.
Speaker 1: Well, you're like you've done such a good job, like
Speaker 1: two thou like you've been at the Titans since twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: You've kept such a low profile. And do you even
Speaker 1: have social media? Like do you have it?
Speaker 5: Just just for the Instagram account that I use privately,
Speaker 5: just because I've got such a big family and it
Speaker 5: helps me keep up with friends.
Speaker 4: But I didn't, like I've thought about getting off it.
Speaker 5: I barely ever post. My wife will post stuff, but yeah,
Speaker 5: and that's really just to keep up with people, because
Speaker 5: like you know, you lose touch with some people from
Speaker 5: college and like they move away, like, oh.
Speaker 4: So and so is like had another kid or whatever.
Speaker 5: It is like sadly you find out about some people
Speaker 5: that way to keep in touch and then it reminds you,
Speaker 5: like I'll shoot shoot my buddy at text down and
Speaker 5: talked to him a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But the Twitter stuff, because it's the same thing
Speaker 5: you guys do, Like if you start letting that stuff
Speaker 5: seep in your mind, it can paralyze you as a play.
Speaker 4: Caller, as a coach, and you start like affecting it.
Speaker 5: Like we all need constructive criticism, right, But if you're
Speaker 5: sitting there trying to please the masses, and there's actually
Speaker 5: been studies shown that Twitter is just a loud echo
Speaker 5: chamber of the minority.
Speaker 4: So it's all a bunch of group think and if.
Speaker 5: Right one way, or if you said something controversial, and
Speaker 5: then you've got all these people and they're not trying
Speaker 5: to paint you as the worst person in the world.
Speaker 5: But most people, majority of people don't feel that way.
Speaker 2: Because it's a silent majority.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's companies react to that stuff all the
Speaker 5: time like one incident like or one bad actor or
Speaker 5: one bad experience in the company. And then also the
Speaker 5: fundamentally change everything because of a Twitter mob. That good,
Speaker 5: but in the long term it's really a flawed business
Speaker 5: model and you can basically alienate fifty percent of your
Speaker 5: customers right away.
Speaker 2: No, you're right. Do you think coaches look into that
Speaker 2: stuff sometimes?
Speaker 1: Out, no question, du Everyone's human, and if you're a
Speaker 1: person of status or a person that has some some
Speaker 1: sort of a following, you're always like people are so
Speaker 1: receptive to the negative than they are to the positive. Sure,
Speaker 1: because you hear a positive thing and you're like, yeah, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: Oh that makes you feel good, But like a negative feeling,
Speaker 1: a negative comment makes you feel like it has such
Speaker 1: a more of a dramatic effect on you that it's
Speaker 1: like it can consume people. Just like you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you got to be smarter about the stuff. I
Speaker 1: try to I try to stay off all that. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man like I fall suit, dude,
Speaker 1: I've yeah, I've googled my name, of course I have.
Speaker 1: I bet you learned the Twitter search and people, you know,
Speaker 1: they bring up a whole bunch of stuff. And the
Speaker 1: worst part about it is is if you did do
Speaker 1: something in the past, people want to comment and think
Speaker 1: they know the entire story, when when it's probably not
Speaker 1: even true whatever whatever it is, you know, And I mean,
Speaker 1: I know I have situations like that from college and
Speaker 1: high school and everything, and people like he's a terrible guy.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you get to know me first? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It takes a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: but people people want to throw opinions out, especially on
Speaker 1: social media, Like you talk to somebody, if you and
Speaker 1: you and I met for the first time, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be like this is how I feel. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: people but like if I walked away out on Twitter, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Arthur Smith, I feel this way. You're a terrible coach,
Speaker 1: You're this, you're that, And it's like, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of keyboard warriors out there, baby, that's the thing, man,
Speaker 1: don't be a keyboard warrior.
Speaker 5: Well that's the other thing too, is like nothing goes
Speaker 5: away now. So if like say you did have like
Speaker 5: you said something in the high school, you see it
Speaker 5: the draft all the time.
Speaker 4: They pull up these tweets. These kids think when they're.
Speaker 5: Like twelve or thirteen, that like God, who knows how
Speaker 5: you thought when you're twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 2: And you all know how we thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So like you bring up the worst moment in somebody's
Speaker 5: life and then it follows them when it really is
Speaker 5: like you're basically saying somebody can never change, which is
Speaker 5: so flawed. Like think out different we all are from
Speaker 5: when you're twelve, eighteen, your first year in the NFL
Speaker 5: to where you are now.
Speaker 4: No question, you definitely evolve as humans.
Speaker 5: So when people sit there and they bring and they
Speaker 5: just rake people over, the calls over like they crucify
Speaker 5: them all some high school stuff exactly, and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they probably shouldn't have said it, they did, but that
Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're a horrible person. To your point, like
Speaker 5: they just want to and that follows some people from
Speaker 5: wherever they go, and it's.
Speaker 3: And they stay pissed off if they don't feel like
Speaker 3: we need it, We need to hear an apology publicly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's just like, dude, I'll get a reaction
Speaker 4: out of you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what I'm showing power over you because
Speaker 5: you said something off the coff and I'm offended.
Speaker 4: So you need to apologize. I will make you apologize.
Speaker 4: It's like that's it's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely, And I think that people have a
Speaker 1: lot of like what is it they feel it's so
Speaker 1: entitled nowadays, like hey, my my feelings are hurt, so
Speaker 1: I'm entitled to whatever whatever, you know, an apology or
Speaker 1: a safe space and stuff like that. And then reality
Speaker 1: is like, dude, ship doesn't go people's way all the time,
Speaker 1: and you gotta like, like, I know it's a touchy subject,
Speaker 1: but the participation trumphy thing, like if you go and
Speaker 1: you get second place, well that dude, that's silver, you know.
Speaker 1: If you get first, that's gold, if you get third,
Speaker 1: that's bronze, and then after that it's done, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's like it definitely I know how he can
Speaker 1: people can see it as like, oh, it'll take building
Speaker 1: kids and you want to build them up and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, because you absolutely do. Kids kids now more
Speaker 1: than ever, need confidence, but they also need to understand
Speaker 1: what adversity is and if you don't do well in
Speaker 1: something that you need to get either work harder, reevaluate
Speaker 1: what you're doing and make a couple of changes and
Speaker 1: and and move forward and progress so you can get
Speaker 1: to that silver they get to that gold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's preaching.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 5: It goes back to what you said, handle failure, got
Speaker 5: to handle failure, And I get it. You're like, you
Speaker 5: don't want to crush a kid when he's six because
Speaker 5: they're all different.
Speaker 4: Like I watch my son right now.
Speaker 5: He's one of the younger kids on his teams, and
Speaker 5: kids develop at different ages, right to make a judgment,
Speaker 5: and some some dad thinks his kid's going to the
Speaker 5: NBA and he six years olds, like, hey, buddy, god.
Speaker 4: It's probably yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, they get all they get all prideful because
Speaker 5: their kids can make a basket.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, just let them, let them develop.
Speaker 5: But you also don't want the kid to have such
Speaker 5: a bad experience where like the coach is going nuts
Speaker 5: at a fifth and six fifth or five and six
Speaker 5: year old basketball game, where the kid that becomes disinterested.
Speaker 5: So it's a fine line, but you're right the like
Speaker 5: you gotta be able to hand failure. You want to
Speaker 5: build them up, have a good experience.
Speaker 3: And especially when everything gets pulled at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, like you're gonna enter the real world and
Speaker 3: you can paint the kid the growing up however you want.
Speaker 2: But the real world is cutthroat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you're trying to make it and stuff like,
Speaker 3: it's business. It's business man like in any in any area,
Speaker 3: once you get to a certain level, it's all business
Speaker 3: and how you perform.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how your sister feels doing that stuff,
Speaker 1: Like there's everyone's a producer. Yeah, that guy's right there
Speaker 1: as a producer. You know what I'm saying, right, and
Speaker 1: like for her go and make it the way she did.
Speaker 1: Like people go to school just to be a producer,
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, what are you going
Speaker 1: to fall back on?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, it is, but you know it's goes back.
Speaker 5: Like I think it's whether you want to really live
Speaker 5: life and enjoy and put yourself out of there, you're
Speaker 5: just gonna hide in the shadows the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And like when you do a profession, you two guys do,
Speaker 5: you definitely put yourself out there.
Speaker 4: So she had those experiences and it goes back.
Speaker 5: I don't imagine at some point from middle school through
Speaker 5: college you had it.
Speaker 4: That's some adversity you had to overcome. Whether it's yeah, U,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna purough this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be something as dramatic as like
Speaker 1: a professional sport either. Like if you're working a nine
Speaker 1: to five job, dude, and you're just absolutely miserable on
Speaker 1: a day to day basis, and you're good at baking
Speaker 1: or you're good you're good at making pastries, Like maybe
Speaker 1: you can go and put yourself out there like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You start a little hobby,
Speaker 1: Like it's so easy now, like to make a website
Speaker 1: or do any of that stuff, and just to put
Speaker 1: yourself out there. Just put the things out there, because
Speaker 1: all it takes you is one person to retweet it
Speaker 1: or like it, and then that's That's the good thing
Speaker 1: about social media is it gives people an outlet of imagination.
Speaker 1: You can go and you can get on Twitter and
Speaker 1: you can see what people across the world are doing
Speaker 1: that you didn't get to see thirty years ago or
Speaker 1: whatever what ninety six when the Internet was invented, you know,
Speaker 1: and so like it doesn't have and we alwayspeak about dramatics, right,
Speaker 1: We talked about pro athletes, we talk about actors, we
Speaker 1: talk about rock stars. Professional coaching, those like professional coaching
Speaker 1: like NFL coaching. Those kinds of things are it's easy
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, put yourself out there and do it.
Speaker 1: But like if your passion's baking or or woodworking or
Speaker 1: like or you know, you want to open up a bar,
Speaker 1: then you just gotta you just gotta go do it.
Speaker 1: And like you're gonna you're gonna stumble and you're gonna fall,
Speaker 1: but that you just got to keep on pressing forward
Speaker 1: and eventually you'll find your way or your niche that
Speaker 1: I'll get you to that point, right right.
Speaker 5: That's a great point. I mean, look at this town,
Speaker 5: looking at on all of the restaurants that have opened
Speaker 5: up here. It's competitive, as i'd imagine. I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't know that world, but i'd imagine if you're a
Speaker 5: chef in Nashville, you're.
Speaker 1: Opening the first six months, most of those places shut
Speaker 1: down like that, right right, It's it's wild.
Speaker 4: People trying to sabotage you. In the reviews.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were, we were talking about your sister. How
Speaker 3: many siblings do you have?
Speaker 4: I want to ten?
Speaker 2: What what holy ship?
Speaker 1: That's a busy man.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Boys? Like how many boys? Girls?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: Three boys? Seven girls?
Speaker 5: So my dad had had two daughters from a previous marriage.
Speaker 5: My mom had one and then they got married and
Speaker 5: they're still married and there's seven of us.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, my mom's big Catholic.
Speaker 4: I don't know what my dad is.
Speaker 2: Never met my father. That's a joke for both of us.
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, that's yeah, that's crazy. One of ten kids.
Speaker 1: How did you get any attention from your parents when
Speaker 1: you were younger?
Speaker 4: It probably helped me because I didn't care.
Speaker 5: Like I tell you, the one thing I did do
Speaker 5: and this is the way I was when I was little.
Speaker 5: So my mom, my mom was awesome, like if you,
Speaker 5: if you guys ever came to Memphis and like you
Speaker 5: needed to, like I wanted to go by and get
Speaker 5: it me.
Speaker 4: I mean she would feed everybody. So like my house
Speaker 4: growing up was pure chaos.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and in a good way where friends were always
Speaker 5: allowed over. I had a bunch of cousins, like constant people.
Speaker 5: My mom would always feed you know, feed you like it.
Speaker 5: It was like a great place and it probably helped
Speaker 5: me in this job because like I love the chaos,
Speaker 5: I love people like That's what's helped me coach. I
Speaker 5: love football in the relationships you build. But it's no,
Speaker 5: it was it was a great household to grow up in.
Speaker 2: Are you what are you? Where are you at the
Speaker 2: oldest youngest, I'm the fourth youngest.
Speaker 1: Make sure that Mike's work in front of your face.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you're you know, you're good.
Speaker 1: You can get comfy too, just making sure. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to hear you. Got to get some good ship
Speaker 1: to say, get the mic here, got to get Who
Speaker 1: would you say right in front of your face?
Speaker 2: Who would you say?
Speaker 1: Is the more?
Speaker 2: The most? Uh? The most? I don't want to say successful,
Speaker 2: but like the you know, is it your sister?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like, are you like a fan boy when she's producing
Speaker 2: a movie?
Speaker 3: Like say, when Ccario two is coming out, are you like, hey, sis,
Speaker 3: so is uh Sacario two coming to the works?
Speaker 5: Like, well, I've been crushing her about like Icario three.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, they're right now.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, you're right there right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I tell you. It was a really Benicia adult.
Speaker 5: Toro was a really cool guy. I went to the premiere.
Speaker 5: Oh dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: So I want him and Josh Brolin are awesome, so
Speaker 4: you have to meet him. Yeah, And they were just
Speaker 4: like real some people you meet out there.
Speaker 5: You know, they're so used to the bubble they're in
Speaker 5: and they get their view.
Speaker 4: Distorted, but they were real people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so dude, that's awesome. Me and Del he's like
Speaker 3: an intimidating looking cat.
Speaker 4: That's what we got.
Speaker 5: I'll get my sister to come on here and try
Speaker 5: to like fish away. And have you been telling me
Speaker 5: for like three years you're trying to put us together?
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 1: To me is like I got to get you and
Speaker 1: my sister together. Man, I play the I play the
Speaker 1: best security guard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just get like, yeah, be fine.
Speaker 5: Like I've always wanted to be in like a like
Speaker 5: a roadhouse remake, dude, like a bar.
Speaker 4: Scene, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ask to be to do that stuff?
Speaker 5: My brother's I've never done it. Yeah, my brother played
Speaker 5: a bouncer actually, I think he was in p S.
Speaker 1: I Love You.
Speaker 5: And then my younger one like he'll play an extra
Speaker 5: like he's done this and he's played like an extra
Speaker 5: like the crowd oh yeah, or like he tries to
Speaker 5: get like the cool stuff where he's like the guy
Speaker 5: that's like kicking the door in it or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't see, and your sister's just like yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, God Yeah.
Speaker 3: She just kind of like you gotta imagine that your
Speaker 3: circles going to like, so hey man, you know.
Speaker 1: Spot being a producer. You gotta be like you're producing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to be an extra and like
Speaker 5: it's just a ridiculous like bar fight scene or something.
Speaker 1: Dude, that'd be so awesome. We go have a great
Speaker 1: season this year and then we catch you in Sacario three.
Speaker 4: If you were in it.
Speaker 1: The way you're going right now, you'd be the best. No,
Speaker 1: it'd be like you she se.
Speaker 2: Fucking Arthur's see just now he's in movies and now
Speaker 2: he's in movies.
Speaker 1: You're like, what can't you do?
Speaker 2: Has a banger year and now he's in movies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, killing it's like a bottle over the head, you know,
Speaker 5: I've always want to do that, Like you got to
Speaker 5: retake that one.
Speaker 1: Like I know, well if you they if you can
Speaker 1: get the bottom of that bottle cut out, it breaks
Speaker 1: super easy. Someone showed me that at a party one time.
Speaker 1: They like filled it up halfway with water and you
Speaker 1: hold like the neck of the bottle and you like
Speaker 1: hit it real hard on the top and it like
Speaker 1: just pops off the bottom of the bottle and then
Speaker 1: you crack it over somebody's head doesn't hurt at all.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try it. We'll go, we'll figure it out,
Speaker 2: just like a video doing it right now, trying to
Speaker 2: do it right now.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can find a volunteer.
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, we got a couple back there that might
Speaker 1: take a bottle. Dude, who knows Matt'll cut his dick
Speaker 1: off for a Super Bowl Dude, we can probably get
Speaker 1: him to hit a bottle over his head. We can
Speaker 1: probably figure that out. That's why, dude, that's why. Like,
Speaker 1: that's one thing that I think I'm definitely interested in
Speaker 1: is going and kind of throwing my hat in the
Speaker 1: ring in the whole LA scene. But that stuff's intimidating,
Speaker 1: and also it's so time consuming. Like guys like Dain
Speaker 1: the Rock Johnson, how does he have a family, Like.
Speaker 3: He's always doing Kevin Hart, those guys like they're just
Speaker 3: they're always always doing something.
Speaker 5: Make you feel lazy, I tell you, yeah, it's you
Speaker 5: gotta get the point where you're like Tom Hanks, where
Speaker 5: like you come out for the big hitters and then
Speaker 5: Nick he disappears for a while and comes back and disappears.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do like Woody and yeah, just does Woody
Speaker 1: and goes out of there. Yeah, you got those movies
Speaker 1: like Castaway or like The Revenant where you're it's you're
Speaker 1: just kind of like acting by yourself the whole movie.
Speaker 4: Really talented.
Speaker 1: You gotta be really talented.
Speaker 2: I am legends Will Smith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impressive. Will Smith is unbelievable. Yeah, Will Smith
Speaker 1: or Denzel Washington. Who's a better actor?
Speaker 2: I think Denzel I think is the best.
Speaker 1: Lot. I got a lot of people that say Will Smith,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you I'll have a little argument there.
Speaker 1: Will Smith is good at everything. He can do comedy,
Speaker 1: he can do serious, he can do everything in between.
Speaker 1: Denzel is Denzel and everything. What was he not?
Speaker 4: What was he not?
Speaker 2: Juice? Have you seen?
Speaker 6: Have you seen John Q?
Speaker 1: That movie made me cry, Dude, I lost my mind.
Speaker 1: That's when his son had a heart heart too big tasty, hostage.
Speaker 4: Mind pulling out the Denzel Washington movies.
Speaker 5: You're curious because I'm thinking in my head training Neeson,
Speaker 5: who's like the same guy and everyone.
Speaker 1: Bill Ted's excellent Adventure, Like he was definitely a different
Speaker 1: character there, But you got to see them. You have
Speaker 1: seen that or Oh yeah, a great.
Speaker 2: Movie, great one equalizer. Remember the Titans, John Q. Yeah,
Speaker 2: deja vu.
Speaker 4: He's always got a moment where he gets like worked
Speaker 4: up and some like passionate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love it, dude, I mean yeah, American gangster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. It could have been
Speaker 1: a lot better.
Speaker 3: When he goes and takes the money from the dude
Speaker 3: in the street, like, hey, you owe me money, what
Speaker 3: you gonna forget his name? He's like, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 3: And you gon shoot me right here in the street,
Speaker 3: puts a gun up to his head. What's you gonna do, Frank,
Speaker 3: you gonna shoot me right here in front all these people?
Speaker 1: Huh. That was a good little dead dude.
Speaker 4: What do we got here?
Speaker 5: You could definitely make an argument that he's he's the
Speaker 5: depth that Will Smith I give you that.
Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't see fence.
Speaker 6: That was like a Broadway It's a play. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: it's a it's a play. It's like one. It's like
Speaker 6: in the backyard, and he's phenomenal. And he plays this
Speaker 6: like like really mean, hateful father and it's it's incredible.
Speaker 1: He does a good job. He won a Tony for that.
Speaker 1: Didn't he or he had something he he want something.
Speaker 1: Magnificent seven was a good movie.
Speaker 4: You mind clicking on the Book of Eli.
Speaker 2: That was a solid kind of acted by alone in
Speaker 2: that one, and it had.
Speaker 1: Me lakuon Is in it. Who I'm a big fan of. Dude.
Speaker 1: That's probably my Hollywood crush.
Speaker 4: My sister worked on that one, which was my brother. Yeah,
Speaker 4: my brother was an extra.
Speaker 3: She just got no booty though. Man, we're on a
Speaker 3: hot spot busting. Dude, you're on a hotspot.
Speaker 4: What do you think of all this stuff? I love?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what do you think of the podcast? Man?
Speaker 3: I think you talking about fear of failure and stuff.
Speaker 3: It's also getting nervous any time we're just on here
Speaker 3: that we're doing this thing.
Speaker 1: There's definitely there's definitely a thing where you're like, ship, dude,
Speaker 1: are we are we good enough?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Are we doing this? People actually didn't give a ship
Speaker 1: what we're talking about?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You kind of put yourself out there like that's another
Speaker 3: the whole fear of failure ship that we were talking.
Speaker 4: About it, But it's original.
Speaker 5: It's all that you walk in here and I met,
Speaker 5: I pulled up. I was like, either I'm in the
Speaker 5: wrong place. It's gonna be a really weird night for me.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be awesome, you know. And then like when
Speaker 5: I saw the light on, I was like, all right,
Speaker 5: I'm in the right place.
Speaker 4: It's all the boys right there.
Speaker 5: But I mean it could have been like, yeah, you
Speaker 5: got the tarps in the back of the heat.
Speaker 4: It's like I've seen from True Detective.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, Dirty Mic and the boys from the other guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we will have sex in your car.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the sex shack and the boys love dirty.
Speaker 4: What is all this stuff right here? I never knew existed.
Speaker 5: There was a guy painting something when try not to
Speaker 5: hit his thing, he had like.
Speaker 1: It's a dude, it's a crazy setup in here. They
Speaker 1: had like cardboard films is in here. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: do like they do all the production stuff. They got
Speaker 1: like a welding they like a welding classes. They have
Speaker 1: a workshop back there. Coffee acts throwing. There's a coffee shop, dude.
Speaker 1: There's people that sell art.
Speaker 4: That's what I saw.
Speaker 1: There's like a Neon sign, dude of a banana. It's like,
Speaker 1: but it looks real as hell, is it. It's so
Speaker 1: it was like what eighteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, and now there's a you know, the Flaming.
Speaker 1: And make that, make that bigger so you can see it.
Speaker 6: You ever heard of the Flaming Lips. The Flaming Lips, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The band.
Speaker 6: No, I mean you should listen to them. But they
Speaker 6: paid ten grand to get that. It's the lead singer's artwork.
Speaker 6: They pay ten grand to get it put here, and
Speaker 6: it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Ten this nice fun out of here. Man trying to
Speaker 2: find I was trying.
Speaker 4: To see who did this movie?
Speaker 5: If you if you don't mind, because I can't remember
Speaker 5: what part where my sister was working, because she definitely
Speaker 5: worked on this one.
Speaker 2: Oh a mental fire, not a man on fire? Was
Speaker 2: book at you?
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the wrong one.
Speaker 1: It's all over the place with this thing he work in.
Speaker 1: We can figure out whatever.
Speaker 2: A little bit of adversity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know of the artwork?
Speaker 5: Have you been hit up now as you're getting older,
Speaker 5: If you had to buy any art for your house,
Speaker 5: that's a whole different that's a whole different part.
Speaker 2: You feel that big deal. Baby, You're gonna.
Speaker 4: Get some differ person.
Speaker 5: But this is just like you're talking about growing like older,
Speaker 5: like stuff I never thought about where I feel like
Speaker 5: I get fleeced on artwork.
Speaker 1: You think soli art gets you.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not like I I'm very like artistic. No,
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 5: My wife is, and you know, so I'll go with
Speaker 5: her to like look at artwork. So when you get
Speaker 5: your house, it's like, oh, we need to get it
Speaker 5: at artwork. And like every year it's like you're out
Speaker 5: a piece and it's like I pushed this more. We're
Speaker 5: gonna get it. We need this beast like all right,
Speaker 5: well what is it worth? And you're like, oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what the value is.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've had to if that's hit
Speaker 4: one of you guys.
Speaker 1: I haven't had I haven't had a lot of art.
Speaker 1: But I did have a situation. We did a charity
Speaker 1: event for Home Street Home. It was me and Thomas Rhett.
Speaker 1: We put on this this charity event for this thing
Speaker 1: for people, the homeless people in Nashville and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: which it was awesome. But there was this girl there
Speaker 1: and I gotta figure out her name. I can probably
Speaker 1: look it up, thank you, Sidney Clausa. She is incredible.
Speaker 1: So she was there and uh, while people like were
Speaker 1: just hanging out. It was less than an hour. She
Speaker 1: did a portrait of Clint Eastwood and in one of
Speaker 1: his movies. I don't know which movie specifically it was,
Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of Western movies, but he's
Speaker 1: got the cowboy hat on everything and it looks incredible
Speaker 1: and uh like that that is cool stuff to me.
Speaker 1: When I see two eggs pushed against each other and
Speaker 1: people are sitting there with a glass of wine, They're like,
Speaker 1: to me, this is life because you have to lean
Speaker 1: on each other for help.
Speaker 2: I crack and the egg nversity.
Speaker 1: This this this art is sexual and violent. Like I
Speaker 1: don't I don't get it, but dude, I saw that
Speaker 1: and we bid on it and ended up doing like
Speaker 1: it was like twenty thousand dollars. Yeah, raised, we raised.
Speaker 1: We ended up raising sixty because she do it so fast.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 1: It was me, Thomas Rhet and Jason on Dean and
Speaker 1: we were we were like all the three of us
Speaker 1: betting on it or whatever, bidding on it. And Rett
Speaker 1: like leans over and he's like like if we can
Speaker 1: just get like hurt him, make two more, like we
Speaker 1: can get this off for twenty yeah, and like we
Speaker 1: like asked her if she said she totally do it.
Speaker 1: So we ended up spent twenty thousand dollars on a portrait,
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. But it's dude, it's awesome and she's
Speaker 1: so talented it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, but like, what is art? You know, it's
Speaker 1: all it's all a super relative Sydney Clausen. Yeah, she's incredible, man.
Speaker 1: She she does a lot of good work. But what
Speaker 1: have you been snaked into? I've had to go a
Speaker 1: couple of Jackson Pollocks or what you got going on?
Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you the nudies in the house.
Speaker 1: No, I don't have that Banksy running around there. Dude,
Speaker 1: that Banksy photo of the dudes from Pulp Fiction holding
Speaker 1: the bananas. It's a great that's a great little deal there.
Speaker 1: I loved banks dude. I think the coolest thing about
Speaker 1: banks is no one knows who he is. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: like under the wraps all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, it's a I've gone to those art shows and
Speaker 5: I've tried, like you know, it's like, hey, I'm trying
Speaker 5: to appreciate people's work, because people put a lot of
Speaker 5: work it. But I have no idea what something's worth,
Speaker 5: but that's not bad. And you look it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: that's only one hundred dollars and I'm like that's awful.
Speaker 4: It's like that's ten grand.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, right, yeah, it's all it's all relative to
Speaker 1: what you think is cool, right, Like, I see, I
Speaker 1: don't know who's the guy that cut his ear off?
Speaker 1: Oh to my band, go Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4: I was at that fight. No, you weren't in Memphis, right.
Speaker 4: You might want to FactCheck me, but I'm almost the
Speaker 4: pyramids a pyramid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there. Get the hell out of here, Lewis.
Speaker 4: I remember I was in college in Memphis.
Speaker 3: Tyson Holyfield too, because everybody thought like, Okay, Tyson will
Speaker 3: get him this time.
Speaker 2: He just bit his damn ear off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Tyson was a psychopath back in the day.
Speaker 2: If you watch that fight though, a back that's.
Speaker 4: Two was in. One of them was in Memphis, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, Ship, you said you were there, so I'm sure
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: At a text fight, but I'm almost one't where.
Speaker 2: He bit his ear off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in the pyramid, Lennox Lewis.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you watch that, no, it's Holyfield. If
Speaker 6: you watch that fight Holyfields, like head budding him the
Speaker 6: whole time. So I understand you.
Speaker 2: Would have bit the ship out of his ear to Jo,
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 6: Why he was mad, man, I really, I really do.
Speaker 4: Y know.
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson was on Joe Rogan's podcast and it was
Speaker 1: it was pretty He's got his own podcast too.
Speaker 3: I know we need to get Mike tython on this one.
Speaker 5: My fact check was wrong. I was at that Tyson,
Speaker 5: the one in the pyramid with Lewis Lennox.
Speaker 1: Lewis Lewiss. Did he win that one?
Speaker 2: Boy? Coach Coach Smith's got that CTE?
Speaker 4: Maybe ct But I was in college and I don't
Speaker 4: remember a lot of that fight.
Speaker 2: To be honest with.
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, the couple of beers. Man, that'll think all
Speaker 1: the memories.
Speaker 2: Just get hammer, just think like it's Tyson. Man, it's
Speaker 2: not gonna last that long. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Do you guys want to have a frank conversation about CTE.
Speaker 2: I think that would be really interesting. You kind of
Speaker 2: want to. There's not enough education to have like.
Speaker 1: A yeah, there won't be no education.
Speaker 3: Do we joke about it, and it's pure jokes, so
Speaker 3: don't get too serious.
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about ct is I
Speaker 1: had when I got knocked out in the Miami game.
Speaker 1: I was meeting with doctors and they said, you know,
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, early two thousands, you'd get
Speaker 1: hit and then and then you'd go back and you
Speaker 1: get hit hit. It's kind of like an ankle, Like
Speaker 1: you keep stacking those injuries on top of that ankle,
Speaker 1: adventure gonna have a bum ankle. And so their their
Speaker 1: claim was is that because where they're taking time for
Speaker 1: things to heal now and taking care of stuff, that
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a huge issue for our generation
Speaker 1: and and and in the future too that. But like
Speaker 1: but as far as like evidence all that, I don't
Speaker 1: have it. I have nothing for you. I just think.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's as far as CT as I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's like if I'm forgetful around the house
Speaker 3: or if I'm forgetful everywhere, because I am, I'm just like,
Speaker 3: you know, babe, I got CT pure jokes.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: I'll tell I'll tell Willi's story sometimes and he'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I heard it. He'll he'll he'll walk away. See
Speaker 1: he's a real thing.
Speaker 2: He's a real thing.
Speaker 4: It's a very sensitive subject and if you.
Speaker 2: Said something, it could be headlined.
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. But man, so you went to you went
Speaker 1: to North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Did you have how many stuff?
Speaker 1: How many how many offers did you have coming out
Speaker 1: of high school? Oh? Hold on, I'll let that load
Speaker 1: for a second. We'll go back to that a second.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I end up having too late. And so
Speaker 5: so when I grew probably going my junior year, I
Speaker 5: was getting recruited by.
Speaker 4: When I was in high school in DC. So I'm
Speaker 4: from Memphis. I end up going high school in DC,
Speaker 4: and then I was.
Speaker 5: Probably about six two ish, about two forty, so it
Speaker 5: was a lot of those like Patriot Lee schools like
Speaker 5: recruiting me. And then I just ended up growing a
Speaker 5: little bit by I answered more and then I was
Speaker 5: like thirty pounds bigger. So by the end of it,
Speaker 5: some of the bigger schools got on me.
Speaker 4: And it was a strange recruitment because I got I
Speaker 4: remember Carl Torbush, she was.
Speaker 5: The head coach in Carolina, called me and offered me
Speaker 5: the night before he got fired. He's like, I'm offering
Speaker 5: a scholarship, but I may not have my job tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I was like, thanks, Like.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that appreciate that.
Speaker 5: But the guy that was an old line coach named
Speaker 5: Robbie Caldwell who had a who actually was at Vannerbilt,
Speaker 5: was the head coach at Vannerbilt for years at Clemson.
Speaker 5: Now Robbie got he got kept by I got named
Speaker 5: John Bunning. Bunning was my college coach, so he was
Speaker 5: the reason I ended up going to R Carolina. I
Speaker 5: wanted to go to Georgia Tech and Bill O'Brien was
Speaker 5: recruiting at Georgia Tech wing tea no before that, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: and uh, I actually went down to my official visit.
Speaker 5: I was waiting for him to offer, and they was
Speaker 5: like trying to get me a walk on. I was
Speaker 5: waiting waiting that's where I wanted to go, and they
Speaker 5: didn't offer me. So I was waiting in Carolina did
Speaker 5: and then I end up calling Bill O'Brien. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to North Carolina. I remember he like
Speaker 5: wasn't too you know, happy, I'm like, never offered me.
Speaker 5: But small world.
Speaker 4: Then you get back in this profession and the running
Speaker 4: these people again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how like things just shrink up as
Speaker 1: the far the more you get into that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Tim Bruser, he's at North Carolina right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not the head coach, but he's
Speaker 1: he's a coach there, and he was the head coach
Speaker 1: at Minnesota. My old man went to Minnesota and so
Speaker 1: and he off he offered me a scholarship. And I
Speaker 1: remember sitting in his office and he like calls over
Speaker 1: his uh like the compliance people, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's the deal, Like, how do I offer this guy
Speaker 1: a scholarship? Like am I allowed to right now? And
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there like just kind of hanging out,
Speaker 1: just sitting at a desk. And they're like, well, technically
Speaker 1: you have to wait till he leaves the premises. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. He goes, listen, we're gonna offer you a
Speaker 1: scholarship as soon as you walk out here. Okay. I
Speaker 1: was like, to we leave now. It was awake, small world,
Speaker 1: small one. And the reason why, yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say the reason why that was a small world just
Speaker 1: because that he was at practice last week and he
Speaker 1: came over and gave me a bake handshake. We were
Speaker 1: gonna get you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the head coach who did you play for
Speaker 3: in North Carolina?
Speaker 4: And John Bunning who had played in North Carolina.
Speaker 3: He was my linebacker coach at our senior when I
Speaker 3: the NFL p a game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know he was my linebacker coach. Yeah,
Speaker 2: old school.
Speaker 5: Though he played in the seventies a different areas about
Speaker 5: the NFL. He had some wild stories. Yeah, by playing
Speaker 5: the seventies wild.
Speaker 1: So you gotta Getruss Grimm on here sometimes. But you
Speaker 1: and Russ, I'd love that Rus to selling to So yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely put on like tell Sully.
Speaker 2: Would that be fun?
Speaker 3: Because I know his son Chad Grim he's at the
Speaker 3: Redskins ud.
Speaker 1: Russ is literally maybe the coolest coach of all time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an American icon.
Speaker 5: If you think of like nineteen eighty six and Pittsburgh,
Speaker 5: that's Russ Grim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: He was the coolest man. He was such a good dude.
Speaker 1: He tell you the same story three four times. He well,
Speaker 1: but he was. He was on top of it.
Speaker 4: He's smart as hell.
Speaker 1: He's so smart, man, He's so smart. He's such a
Speaker 1: We play this game where he'd put up a word,
Speaker 1: like a long word like superfluous and then you'd have
Speaker 1: a minute to figure out all the words and then
Speaker 1: you make you make fun of us because he'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, you tell the same story all the time.
Speaker 1: And he do that word game and he would kill everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he'd beat Dennis, and you know, Dennis is mister
Speaker 1: I want to be smart guy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He'd be that guy out there. Man.
Speaker 4: So Russ is so cool. I'll just say about Ross
Speaker 4: because they're not very if you put who says back
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 5: He would never let you pay for anything. He was
Speaker 5: the most giving person. He was a one man party.
Speaker 5: And I mean that like the highest compliment. Like you
Speaker 5: went and you wanted to go grab something to eat
Speaker 5: with him, Like he'd gets so pissed at you if
Speaker 5: you try to pay. That's like he wouldn't let you
Speaker 5: do it. Yeah, yeah, there's he's I'm glad I got
Speaker 5: to work with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad I know Russ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one thing I do when he when whenever
Speaker 1: he left the Titans, I was like, man, I just
Speaker 1: need it, give me a kind of a jersey. And
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, absolutely, I'll give you a jersey. The
Speaker 1: Dogs and then you know, we would buy a couple
Speaker 1: a month or two, I'm buying. I was like, yeah, yo, Russ,
Speaker 1: let me get that jersey. Like I texted him. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got it, man, some of your dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Three weeks go by. Yeah, I end up getting that
Speaker 1: damn jersey though, I got it now.
Speaker 5: Somebody told me that one of the d Linemen saw
Speaker 5: him in the airport recently. Yeah, that'd be like the
Speaker 5: four airport. Yeah, I mean, I'd be so fired up
Speaker 5: if I saw him in an airport. That'd be one of
Speaker 5: the greatest like airport sightings, especially.
Speaker 1: If you had like a two hour, three hour layover. Yeah,
Speaker 1: man sitting there, dude, after games, him just hanging out
Speaker 1: in the back of his car, just relaxing, Like those
Speaker 1: are the coolest parts of the games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a different, different era.
Speaker 5: But the thing about Russ is when I worked for
Speaker 5: the Redskins and and oh seven with Joe Gibbs and
Speaker 5: Coach Gibbs had all those guys that been with them
Speaker 5: in the eighties, and they would tell stories at night.
Speaker 4: It was awesome, you know, hearing the stories.
Speaker 5: About the Hogs and going against Lawrence Taylor, in the
Speaker 5: NC East at that time, and they would talk about
Speaker 5: Russ like in this they tell stories about Rus because
Speaker 5: Rus is like everybody's got stories about Russ. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: then I could worked with a guy named Donny Warren.
Speaker 5: Donny Warren was tentley part of the Hogs. He was
Speaker 5: there blocking tight end.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He was like the old Craig Stevens for them. For
Speaker 5: the Hawks, he was just yeah, man's man. So Donnie
Speaker 5: would tell me stories about Russ, and Russ was just
Speaker 5: he was a legend.
Speaker 4: They had the five o'clock Club. They ever talked about
Speaker 4: that in DC?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 5: The thing a shed And the way Donnie told me
Speaker 5: was they had two different beers, Miller distributor and a
Speaker 5: and anh Bush distributor, and they both thought they were
Speaker 5: the official beer drinking the beer of the Hawks. So
Speaker 5: however they did it, so I assume it was Russ.
Speaker 5: And they've come in every other week. So on Tuesdays
Speaker 5: they drop it off, the equipment guy put on ice
Speaker 5: and after practice they'd go sit in the shed like Russ,
Speaker 5: Donnie Warren, Jo Jakobe. They'd sit around, they'd have a
Speaker 5: couple of beers before they went home.
Speaker 4: It's called the five o'clock Club.
Speaker 1: I love that dude.
Speaker 2: You knew Ko, right, Yeah? You know Ko? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was my guy.
Speaker 4: For really helped me out.
Speaker 3: Man, he's with them, he's actually with the floor now
Speaker 3: he's yeah, he's with the packers.
Speaker 2: He's with the packers, the floor man, one and done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got the head coaching job though. Man, you can't
Speaker 1: can't get mad at that, dude. Ye yeah, yeah for
Speaker 1: the packers too, Like how cool? How cool would that be?
Speaker 1: That'd be wicked?
Speaker 2: How much did you learn from coach or.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a lot of guys you mad a
Speaker 5: different experience and might have been in a similar system
Speaker 5: for the whole time. He's been in the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and uh, it was good. I enjoyed working with Matt.
Speaker 5: He was like anybody. I mean, you spend so many
Speaker 5: hours you get to know him.
Speaker 4: That's a great person.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we talk about a lot of things, and
Speaker 5: Matt would here he had strong opinions because he had
Speaker 5: been in one system.
Speaker 4: But he would definitely hear you out with Some guys
Speaker 4: you work with are so.
Speaker 5: Stubborn and like they think that it's like the Ten
Speaker 5: Commandments and that's that's what it is, and there's no
Speaker 5: coming off right right, It's not that way.
Speaker 4: Uh, he'll do well up in Green Bay. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I enjoyed working with him.
Speaker 3: Well, there's that one week when we played the Skins
Speaker 3: that I was in there clock with you guys.
Speaker 2: So he was definitely like he always asks questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you would see how much, like you know, Blaine,
Speaker 3: all you guys are in there, I'm sitting there like
Speaker 3: you know, defensive player, listening to all this terminology the
Speaker 3: the offensive side and everything, and Matt's like going back
Speaker 3: and forth, like, you know, do we like this here
Speaker 3: to be like that there?
Speaker 2: YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I assume it's it's probably nice, you know,
Speaker 3: coaching with guys that listen and you know.
Speaker 4: They're not you always a good person. We're completely different personalities,
Speaker 4: but as long as you know somebody is a.
Speaker 5: Good, good person where they're coming from, and that makes
Speaker 5: things a lot easier when you're.
Speaker 4: Working with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: How uh you know, thinking about thinking about that week
Speaker 3: and the questions he would ask Blaine like comfort levels
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 2: How.
Speaker 3: How important is that you now being in oc that
Speaker 3: that level of like you have your own ways of
Speaker 3: growing and evolving and changing little, you know, little wrinkles
Speaker 3: here and there. How important is that for that dialogue
Speaker 3: with Marcus sitting in the room, because I'm sitting there.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching Blaine write everything down right that
Speaker 3: you guys are all talking about. And then it would
Speaker 3: circle back around the Blane. Hey, Blaine, what do you
Speaker 3: think of that call here and there? I assume you're
Speaker 3: trying to gauge the comfort of your quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some of that. And then I think Matt
Speaker 5: enjoyed Blaine. You know, Blaine had been in a lot
Speaker 5: of offenses because a lot of those quarterbacks are like
Speaker 5: assistant coaches in so many systems, and if you get somebody,
Speaker 5: Blaine was really smart and he could. He loved it,
Speaker 5: you know, he would sit there and draw up stuff and.
Speaker 1: Love him talk to them.
Speaker 4: So it helps.
Speaker 5: You definitely have to be on the same page as
Speaker 5: the quarterback. But I also don't lose sight of Taylor's job,
Speaker 5: like understanding his matchup for the center and the receivers,
Speaker 5: like I try to look at it. And the thing
Speaker 5: I think that hurts sometimes in coaching is some of guys,
Speaker 5: guys forget what the game feels like with the helmet.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like you put stuff in
Speaker 5: and you really want to see it from your perspective,
Speaker 5: because all right, well here's Taylor's world on a play,
Speaker 5: making sure that, like you don't want to lose sight
Speaker 5: of there may be issues in certain plays, you know,
Speaker 5: gonna be harder than others for certain people. But I
Speaker 5: try to look at every position, do the best I can.
Speaker 5: I won't obviously be perfect, but I do.
Speaker 4: And maybe it's because of my background, like with the
Speaker 4: line sometimes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's just like you realize sometimes you put
Speaker 5: all this stuff in and some people are like, it's
Speaker 5: not that hard, blah blah. I'm like, Okay, well, you're
Speaker 5: sitting in a stance and you've got one of the
Speaker 5: best in the world getting ready rush off the edge,
Speaker 5: and we're asking to make three different decisions before this
Speaker 5: and there's a snap count of play clock going. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so it's and it's gonna be could be two or
Speaker 5: three different things for him to have to do in
Speaker 5: live action.
Speaker 4: And live action. Yeah. Yeah, it's for me to say
Speaker 4: that the clicker, That's what.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. It's quiet like coaches. You know,
Speaker 3: you sit there and you just watch cut ups, you
Speaker 3: watch games. You watch it from a just film perspective
Speaker 3: of getting the video guys to break it down. You're
Speaker 3: sitting there in the quiet in the room, thinking and
Speaker 3: scheming up everything, and then you get out there and yeah,
Speaker 3: what you were saying, trying to relate it to how
Speaker 3: you used to see things and just seeing it from
Speaker 3: all different perspective I think is important.
Speaker 2: That's why you watch like live TV copies too.
Speaker 3: Right, because live TV copies I didn't, I personally didn't
Speaker 3: until this last year. The way vrabel would incorporate stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like a lot of stuff kind of made more
Speaker 3: sense to me in that way. Not that we didn't
Speaker 3: do it on like the Skins or and Surpassed, but
Speaker 3: you get more of a feel for, I guess what's
Speaker 3: going on the progression of a game, because you'll watch
Speaker 3: it in a cut up, right, and you'll you know,
Speaker 3: you'll make all of your opinions and corrections on like oh,
Speaker 3: you should have done this and that, But when you
Speaker 3: see it in a sequence with hearing stuff and the
Speaker 3: action going on the momentum of the game, you kind.
Speaker 2: Of see it. I guess in a different light situationally.
Speaker 4: Too, you do.
Speaker 5: I mean, and there's great things you see on those
Speaker 5: all twenty two of the coaches films, and there's stuff
Speaker 5: you see on the TV copies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's stuff. You know.
Speaker 5: It's the longer you're in it, the more you see
Speaker 5: a practice live too. It's like you go back and
Speaker 5: think about some of the like old high school coaches.
Speaker 5: Don't know your high school coaches were, but like where
Speaker 5: my high school is two coaches in the last six years,
Speaker 5: and the guy that's that was.
Speaker 4: Retired had been there forever, like yeah, he would say
Speaker 4: something to play. I'm like, how do you see all that?
Speaker 4: I can barely see one thing happen.
Speaker 5: No, it helps, but I try to never to lose
Speaker 5: sight of that, like don't forget what it looked like
Speaker 5: in a face mask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which that's important, That's really important. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: do you gotta may be happy?
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: That made me happy because it's it's like it is.
Speaker 1: It is hard when you have people telling you just
Speaker 1: it's that easy, just do this, just do that, and
Speaker 1: you're like, dude, like you know, yeah, I always have
Speaker 1: confidence of what I can do in a game, like
Speaker 1: for sure, you gotta have confidence, but like sometimes you, dude,
Speaker 1: like shit gets hard. You know what I'm saying, if if,
Speaker 1: sometimes all a player needs needs is a coach to
Speaker 1: acknowledge it and say, hey, look, I know we're asking
Speaker 1: you to do a lot here, Yes, we gotta lean
Speaker 1: on you. We gotta lean on you this week for
Speaker 1: the X, Y and Z. And then you get it
Speaker 1: in your head you're like, dude, you take a little personally,
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta i gotta put the boys on
Speaker 1: my back. You know what I'm saying. It's not that serious,
Speaker 1: but in your head you're like, I gotta I'm, I'm,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the game this week.
Speaker 3: Right, But it's just your mindset. It shifts your mindset
Speaker 3: from like man, they'll just don't get it, to when
Speaker 3: they acknowledge it, you just see it from a different aspect.
Speaker 2: Okay, they get it.
Speaker 3: Because it'd be like, you know, with coach Tye, he
Speaker 3: played in the league, uh with at linebacker. So we'd
Speaker 3: go over and there'd be situations last year and you know,
Speaker 3: the constance of the room would be like coach Tye,
Speaker 3: like you kind of repeat it, and then he would
Speaker 3: hear it and then hear it from the player perspective,
Speaker 3: and then he would shift to like, oh, I mean yeah,
Speaker 3: that that.
Speaker 2: Does make sense. Like it'd be like, you know, coach Tye,
Speaker 2: like you used to play.
Speaker 3: Not that long ago, Like yeah, he's seeing doing this
Speaker 3: and that and trying to see this. He'd be like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: scrap that. Let me talk to you know whoever, and
Speaker 3: then we'll come back and then they make a transition.
Speaker 3: So that kind of stuff's important.
Speaker 5: It is, and and it's everybody's perspectives are different. And
Speaker 5: some guys that there have been great players and they
Speaker 5: don't relate as coaches, and you see it in different
Speaker 5: different sports. They just assume this guy's the greatest play
Speaker 5: in the world. He'd be a coach or vice versa.
Speaker 5: Guys never played be an awesome coach, or he'd be terrible.
Speaker 5: Like I think I know the the trending words like
Speaker 5: emotional intelligence, but obviously ty has it, like yeah, and
Speaker 5: it just goes like you can see things, and that's
Speaker 5: what you can see people, and any guy I think
Speaker 5: goes to people's personality to try to figure things out,
Speaker 5: where some people they're so like hardheaded or fixed. The
Speaker 5: one that does always makes my skin crawl is when
Speaker 5: you get some of these uh little quarterback guys and like,
Speaker 5: this guy's soft, he's so soft. I'm like and I
Speaker 5: rolled my eyes, like I would love to see you
Speaker 5: getting a getting a stance come across on one of
Speaker 5: those swift blocks. See how soft you look like you
Speaker 5: may they may cry like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like that gets my skin crawling when the guy's like
Speaker 5: and sadly that I've seen it at every level.
Speaker 4: I've seen that happen.
Speaker 1: You know, those sift blocks are nothing to fuck with.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: That stuff that's hard. That's a hard asset to do.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 1: You go sift on an inside zone, sift on an
Speaker 1: outside zone. Then you go sift on like a on
Speaker 1: like a quarterback, like a play action pass right, and
Speaker 1: you're one on one with the defensive end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pass rusher, the pass rusher.
Speaker 1: Dude, I would hate to be a tight end of
Speaker 1: those things. But that's I mean, that's that's what football is.
Speaker 1: Like every place, someone's a harder job than the others.
Speaker 5: From being a linebacker, it's like, hey, here you are
Speaker 5: one on one. Here's Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he wrap him up. Yeah, third down you
Speaker 2: were on an island with Dion Lewis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody's gonna have a hard job and yeah, and
Speaker 5: that's a good part of the game. I think when
Speaker 5: everybody gets involved in and like you know, you know that,
Speaker 5: like but I don't lose sight of it, like I
Speaker 5: would never like this, wouldn't do that like say, oh,
Speaker 5: this guy's soft, like you're not the NFL and the
Speaker 5: guy is gonna.
Speaker 2: Be no question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And sadly, I've heard people say that for and
Speaker 4: it makes my skin crawl, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good that you have that
Speaker 3: when you were you were so you've been with this
Speaker 3: is is this your third year.
Speaker 2: With the Titans.
Speaker 1: No, this is two thousand and eleven, the ninth, ninth the.
Speaker 4: Ko of Knesse. I always tell KO I was trying
Speaker 4: to like match his record's record. Well, if I go,
Speaker 4: this is kirk Aalavadatti.
Speaker 3: He actually looks like if you if he they if
Speaker 3: we said Kirkalvadadi was his father, he would make sense.
Speaker 4: He's person here.
Speaker 1: But is he handsome?
Speaker 2: You know it looks like his.
Speaker 4: Father, I'd say if if he's saying he looks like me,
Speaker 4: he's gotta be really handsome.
Speaker 3: I guess he's got a harry body, a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of test.
Speaker 5: No, but he he got hired I believe by North Turner.
Speaker 5: So go back like the Redskins two thousand Redskins. So
Speaker 5: then Marty Schottenheimer came in for a year, Yeah, two
Speaker 5: thousand and one. Then they hired Steve spur So he
Speaker 5: was Steve Spurger, then Joe Gibbs, then Shanahan, and then
Speaker 5: he came back with Jay Grutins six. So he's got
Speaker 5: to have the record. And I may be missing like
Speaker 5: an interim coach there. I think, you know, if he
Speaker 5: may count Terry Bisky's like interim games. At the end
Speaker 5: of two thousand, Jim orn got I can't play. I
Speaker 5: forgot Jim's orange. I worked for Jim's. That was bad
Speaker 5: oversight by me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I apologize in three and nine.
Speaker 1: No, I don't you should you shouldn't you should have
Speaker 1: done that? Do your homework.
Speaker 2: I know I should have done my homework way better.
Speaker 1: When when you when you're talking about putting yourself in
Speaker 1: other people's shoes, like going back from having that like uh,
Speaker 1: just kind of being like a quality control guy or
Speaker 1: whatever your your job was when you got here in
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Are you nicer to those guys now? Because
Speaker 1: I've seen coaches that have gone through the rings just
Speaker 1: like everybody else and their dicks. Yeah, that was college.
Speaker 4: Everything, guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, college football. Gosh, man, depending on some of these
Speaker 5: places you get. I mean it sometimes I felt like
Speaker 5: working in college was like this is making me an asshole. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, just the environments, like depending on where you
Speaker 5: are and just all I get it all depends you
Speaker 5: work with. Yeah, it goes back to we kind of
Speaker 5: talked about earlier, like the perspective of whe where you
Speaker 5: guys are like like Luke and Chandler, Like, I know
Speaker 5: how harder jobs are, So no, I would never do that.
Speaker 4: Like if I ever did that, I feel like the biggest.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you have that.
Speaker 4: It just be yourself. It's just the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's like you don't think you're sweet and awesome because
Speaker 5: you get a new job, Like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't view it that way, like, oh, wow, arrived
Speaker 4: this title.
Speaker 1: There's got to be something hard about like not kind
Speaker 1: of feeling yourself a little bit like being like you know,
Speaker 1: I went from that on the same team to being
Speaker 1: the office sport.
Speaker 2: Later I didn't Yeah, I should have done, und I
Speaker 2: did not know.
Speaker 1: Are you going to bring back team take off with
Speaker 1: the footballs?
Speaker 5: This guy about broke my ribs. That was the worst
Speaker 5: job I've had all the job. That was the worst
Speaker 5: job because we do the team take off and these
Speaker 5: guys run the ball and then it would be like
Speaker 5: just boom one rip shot. After I felt like I
Speaker 5: was training for like boxing, like sorry, I need to
Speaker 5: work my abs, like go to home and get the medicine.
Speaker 2: People have your.
Speaker 1: Kids and rocking for team team takeoff is like you
Speaker 1: line up on the twenty five yard line and then
Speaker 1: they'd snap the ball and you run whatever it is
Speaker 1: on air and then somebody would hold a football up
Speaker 1: like or was one of those guys at one point,
Speaker 1: and then the whole job was everyone has to run
Speaker 1: to where the football is and that's like that was
Speaker 1: us finish it and I, dude, I would try to
Speaker 1: beat the ship out of art.
Speaker 5: I tried to, and I tried to warn Luke when
Speaker 5: he took that job over. So when I became a
Speaker 5: tight end coach, I say, hey, man, just get ready.
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like what are you talking about? I think
Speaker 4: you got him. He may have got him like the
Speaker 4: first or second day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got him in the ribs one time.
Speaker 5: And he was so like he was so pissed and
Speaker 5: he was like he's like now I know what you're
Speaker 5: talking about.
Speaker 4: Him like, yeah, that's not the that's not the best
Speaker 4: job to have because because everybody does team take off different.
Speaker 5: But Mike wanted to be like go to the ball
Speaker 5: and then like you guys went to the ball and
Speaker 5: it was like and.
Speaker 4: Some yeah, yeah, no, it was hey, mate made a
Speaker 4: better person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 1: Took some shots. I literally think I tried to throw
Speaker 1: you down by your throat one time.
Speaker 3: Taylor's literally just flashing back to trying to yeah, because
Speaker 3: I tried to get that.
Speaker 1: Ball out dude, But I don't think you ever fumbled once.
Speaker 4: No, held him to the ball. Something else got me
Speaker 4: pretty good.
Speaker 5: I think, like, no, whatn't all It was like Byron Bell,
Speaker 5: somebody that had that strength that like you know, just
Speaker 5: turned it on when you didn't expect it. And I
Speaker 5: think one time, like he got geeked up and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, god, mighty thanks thanks, Yeah Byron Bell. Then
Speaker 1: he was strong.
Speaker 4: He was strong for you guys.
Speaker 5: Didn't realize how strong he was until like probably hit
Speaker 5: you like no doubt, like every once in a while,
Speaker 5: like didn't want to bring it, and when he brought it,
Speaker 5: you're like, God, it's.
Speaker 2: Like yeaheah for sure.
Speaker 3: So you were you were going from like a position
Speaker 3: coach to coach leafloor moves on the OC job is open?
Speaker 2: Are you like what what is going on?
Speaker 3: And this is just you personally, like what goes on
Speaker 3: in your mind, like when that spot opens up and
Speaker 3: you're like you're getting your stuff together, you're about to approach,
Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm really curious like the nerves or like
Speaker 3: the feeling you might have when you're trying to get getting.
Speaker 1: The job there.
Speaker 5: Sorry, but yeah, what you're asking is when I had
Speaker 5: talked to the Rabel last year during the transition, like
Speaker 5: he asked me what my long term goals and so
Speaker 5: I was like I'm just gonna tell him, like I
Speaker 5: felt like I had nothing to lose.
Speaker 4: Like here we are. You know that that was such
Speaker 4: a strange ending to the season.
Speaker 5: You know, you go from the playoffs and then you know,
Speaker 5: things happen quick and then next thing I know, i'mber
Speaker 5: Craig Ackerman and I are driving down the Cener Bowl.
Speaker 5: Were like, we gotta go interview with him at a hotel.
Speaker 5: I had no idea what to expect, you know, so
Speaker 5: you're trying to do your homework on Verrable. I knew
Speaker 5: people had worked with him down in Houston, and so
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right.
Speaker 4: Here's what I gotta get ready for. Here's what I'm man.
Speaker 5: And then like one of the first questions he asked me,
Speaker 5: he was like, what do you want to do long term?
Speaker 5: And I said, eventually, hopefully get to where you do
Speaker 5: or where you're sitting right now. But in order to
Speaker 5: do that, I understand, I got to be a really
Speaker 5: good tight end coach, and then if I get the opportunity,
Speaker 5: I want to be a really good offensive coordinator. So
Speaker 5: at least I had brought it up to him and
Speaker 5: then we had talked about it, and then you know what,
Speaker 5: I don't even know Matt thought he was going to
Speaker 5: get that Green Bay job. It happened so quick, like
Speaker 5: he prepared is this butt off for that job, and
Speaker 5: then he goes in that interview for a couple days later,
Speaker 5: and then he calls me that Monday morning and like, well,
Speaker 5: how to go He's like well, He's like, well, I'm
Speaker 5: waiting on a call from Aaron Rodgers. I was like, Matt,
Speaker 5: probably went pretty well.
Speaker 4: Then they're getting Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: To call you, Like, it's probably going pretty well. So
Speaker 5: then it happens. It happens quick. It happened in a
Speaker 5: couple of hours, I believe, right. So I'm like setting myself.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, and part of me was like,
Speaker 5: you know you're going through that, Like do you make sure.
Speaker 4: You bring it up or you just wait around?
Speaker 5: So I just went in the office next morning to
Speaker 5: try to catch Rabel. So I just sat there Matt
Speaker 5: was cleaning stuff out, and then I ended up catching Rabel.
Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, can I talk to you
Speaker 4: for five minutes?
Speaker 1: Hold? How was that watching Matt like clean out his
Speaker 1: office after one year? Was there kind of like a
Speaker 1: vibe like, man, get the fucking guy. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I'm not saying our coaches are like
Speaker 1: that at all. I'm saying like, you know, you're with
Speaker 1: us for a year, and he's like he's kind of leaving.
Speaker 1: And I love I love Matt, and I like if
Speaker 1: you get a head coach, you know, you gotta go,
Speaker 1: like there's a business, you got to go do your thing.
Speaker 1: But like when you go to clear your stuff out,
Speaker 1: you haven't been fired. You're just like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: take a different job.
Speaker 2: You see.
Speaker 1: You're just like, yeah, It's like it's like when Farva
Speaker 1: went to there went to the police and super Troopers.
Speaker 1: I love, he's like Team Ramrod, right, guys and everyone
Speaker 1: like circling him up and stuff like that. That's how I
Speaker 1: see it. Then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well in that situation, I guess you're just like
Speaker 5: you're happy that like Jeb is not waiting outside his door,
Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, like where it's.
Speaker 4: Like bad news.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was definitely a little strange for Matt
Speaker 5: because Matt's God, Matt's been in He had gone to
Speaker 5: Atlanta to LA and then it's he had an issue
Speaker 5: with his house. I think it flooded, and then he
Speaker 5: had to move out of that house. So he was
Speaker 5: at in LA and then they move, you know, to Nashville,
Speaker 5: and now he's going to Green Bay. So that's a
Speaker 5: lot of move I mean that stuff has happened quick
Speaker 5: for him. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was a little surreal,
Speaker 5: and I think Matt it was like it was starting
Speaker 5: to hit him like, wow, I can go on to
Speaker 5: Green Bay, but it was nobody else was there, but
Speaker 5: it yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was cool for him. I was very happy for him.
Speaker 5: It's so different than like in free agency, like I've
Speaker 5: never like you want to get guys back, but the
Speaker 5: nature of the game is like if somebody's gonna pay
Speaker 5: a lot of money, you can never be.
Speaker 4: Resentful because like, good for you.
Speaker 5: You only got a certain amount of time to make
Speaker 5: money as a as a football player.
Speaker 1: So I think the difference between like the free agency
Speaker 1: thing and the coaches thing is like the coach is leaving,
Speaker 1: that's an individual, one one person going Wait. When it's freezency,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, this, let's say that you don't make
Speaker 1: the play for season ends January second, like all fifty
Speaker 1: three dudes like, hey man, good luck with everything. We'll
Speaker 1: see later. Like everyone's kind of leaving, like we're all
Speaker 1: gonna leave together when everyone packs your stuff up, and
Speaker 1: there's like probably a dozen or so guys that are
Speaker 1: either contracts are expiring or whatever, and so it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a collective like, hey, we're all going together.
Speaker 1: But when you're like that one coach, it's like putting
Speaker 1: like the shoes and like all his ship in a box,
Speaker 1: like all right, guys, like good luck with your season.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: I think they probably all understand, like oh totally. They
Speaker 3: are sitting in the sitting in the office like hey man, thanks,
Speaker 3: man up, I want that job. Yeah yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Are you like nervous when you're sitting there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So sorry, yeah you were.
Speaker 5: You were waiting for Rabel My bad. I just like
Speaker 5: just figured to go one or two ways.
Speaker 4: You tell me. No, it's like the same thing like
Speaker 4: when you're trying.
Speaker 5: To put yourself out there, like all right, well, and
Speaker 5: I you know, who knows what his real thought process?
Speaker 5: I mean, Rape does a great job. You think he
Speaker 5: keeps things close to the vest. And I was just saying, like,
Speaker 5: all right, what's the worst you gonna tell me?
Speaker 4: Like right, too bad? Get lost? Like so I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, I'll just take my shot.
Speaker 5: And so we sat and talked and then he said
Speaker 5: he get back to me, and I just and at
Speaker 5: that point I was like, I'm not gonna be the
Speaker 5: guy that's like because some people the time people do
Speaker 5: and then they start getting desperate and you're trying to
Speaker 5: like get people to call for you or whatever.
Speaker 4: And I just kind of left alone and knew he
Speaker 4: you know, when he wanted to talk to me.
Speaker 5: He talked to me, and I just left it at
Speaker 5: that and I actually went out and uh, because we
Speaker 5: were off, so like I didn't want to sit around
Speaker 5: all day, so I actually went out on skiing.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm gonna do something to occupy
Speaker 4: me all day. That's what I did. And it was
Speaker 4: like my phone and I did, I'll get on like
Speaker 4: a chair lift and like yeah, hey, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yet, well at least did you get pay someone calls
Speaker 1: You're like, mom, wait on a call, can put it
Speaker 1: back down?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I did try to do something to occupy myself
Speaker 5: and it's different. And then after every season though, I
Speaker 5: always try to do something to get away, cause it's
Speaker 5: like you get locked in and it's like I've never
Speaker 5: been on submarine.
Speaker 4: But like the analogy makes sense, like.
Speaker 5: We are close quarters from the end of July and
Speaker 5: it is like it goes back like college brought up
Speaker 5: like a lot of brothers sisters and have Some days
Speaker 5: are better than others, and some days you hate this person.
Speaker 5: You hate that person because you're in close quarters. But
Speaker 5: like at the end of it, like you grow so
Speaker 5: close to these people, players and coaches, but when it ends,
Speaker 5: it's such an abrupt end. That's such a strange day
Speaker 5: that the exit interview.
Speaker 2: Day after the season, right, it is strange.
Speaker 4: It's very strange for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine some of the stuff you guys are
Speaker 5: thinking going through that as well. And then just all right,
Speaker 5: well you were in this thing and now.
Speaker 4: It's it's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see in April.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, hopefully. Well sorry, Juce, you you
Speaker 1: wanted a question.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask who else?
Speaker 2: Say?
Speaker 6: I forgot who else they interviewed for those position?
Speaker 4: Was it? Was it just you?
Speaker 2: I have no idea I remember to ask you kind
Speaker 2: of get put through the ringer.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the same thing that you'd have to ask.
Speaker 2: You probably just got.
Speaker 3: The blinders on and you know, when you get your shot,
Speaker 3: you're gonna take advantage of it. I mean, when thinking
Speaker 3: of Matt, like you know, packers Sean McVay happens, and
Speaker 3: I bring them up because I was with both of
Speaker 3: them at the reds McVeigh goes off to interview for
Speaker 3: the RAMS a couple of years ago, and everybody's thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be his first kind of wave
Speaker 3: of going through and interviewing, so he's gonna put himself
Speaker 3: out there and start getting his name out there. And
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there with the coach Phillips, the tight ends
Speaker 3: coach for the Redskins Way Till the Sun, Yeah, Wes Phillips,
Speaker 3: and he's like, man, I'm telling you, when Sean gets
Speaker 3: in the room with these guys, like he's they're gonna
Speaker 3: keep them there, He's not gonna leave, like he's that
Speaker 3: you know, well versed. And then you know, Matt goes
Speaker 3: to Green Bay. I don't know if he was going
Speaker 3: in the circuit to get ahead coaching of the year before,
Speaker 3: but he goes to Green Bay and it's like, you
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen, probably and I yes,
Speaker 3: this that the other thing, and he becomes the hot candidate. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like for you, you know, was it
Speaker 3: was it your first time going after like an OC position, first.
Speaker 4: Time to go after OC.
Speaker 5: Here's a random story, like I I tried to get
Speaker 5: the Georgetown University head job in twenty fourteen, right and
Speaker 5: I actually went on an interview for it, and I like,
Speaker 5: I was like I was just gonna take my shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, same type of deal, and they brought
Speaker 5: me up there. Obviously didn't get it, but at that
Speaker 5: point I was just like I'd been in that QC
Speaker 5: assistant role, and I was like why not, Like I
Speaker 5: had ties to the school because I had gone to
Speaker 5: the high school affiliated with it and knew somebody that
Speaker 5: had known the ad put in a word, and like,
Speaker 5: it's such a different world from like Michigan or Nebraska
Speaker 5: or North Carolina. But I was like, why it's worth
Speaker 5: a shot, Like I like DC and so that had
Speaker 5: helped me at least going through it, get going through it.
Speaker 5: But I had the same mindset, like I had a
Speaker 5: really good job, Like this was when Wizdom and that turnover.
Speaker 5: So I was kind of waiting and I was like,
Speaker 5: at least I I felt like I had something to
Speaker 5: fall back onto. That was an awesome job in the NFL.
Speaker 5: If I didn't get it, Like God, knows what would
Speaker 5: happen if I did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at least I had I had had some of.
Speaker 3: Because that's interesting to me, going through like the first
Speaker 3: experience of something and you're kind of like, all right,
Speaker 3: you know, drave he called me up.
Speaker 2: I'm coming in like I'm about to.
Speaker 3: You're trying to do it the best of your ability,
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know what experience happens before
Speaker 3: that compared to if they're asking questions. But you're you
Speaker 3: gotta be nervous as ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go through that, you got to, like the
Speaker 1: draft process, and you're nervous as ship all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flying places, you gotta go talk to people. You
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell people are into.
Speaker 2: Hey, people ask the weirdest questions. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 1: Man, Like, like the draft is crazy because they're gonna
Speaker 1: it's not like a regular nine to five job. They
Speaker 1: can ask you whatever they want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you go on those visits. I'm sure people,
Speaker 4: how mean did you go on?
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I was in like sixteen visits.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. So I never thought we were gonna get you.
Speaker 1: I had I had twenty said, like, dude, I remember
Speaker 1: I thought it was Atlanta, right, I thought I was
Speaker 1: in Atlanta at six. Oh, I'm gonna burn that place
Speaker 1: to the ground.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 1: They took a swing man, but uh no, I honestly
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember the day I was supposed to
Speaker 1: leave to go visit Tennessee and I called my agent.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, why would I Why would I go
Speaker 1: to this like they have they they have Michael Ruse
Speaker 1: who's a stud for the last ten years or going
Speaker 1: into his tenth year, and they just they just signed
Speaker 1: Michael one side. Yeah, I picked up blank side picked
Speaker 1: who's playing right, probably from playing my side? Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you guys see this movie?
Speaker 2: Get this guy?
Speaker 1: Get this guy? And he's like he's like he literally said,
Speaker 1: let me call some people and I'll call you back.
Speaker 1: And then Patrick Collins, who's one of my agents, he
Speaker 1: calls me back and he's like, you should go to
Speaker 1: that meeting. And I'm like, all right, dude, whatever. So
Speaker 1: I fly out there Southwest See like fifteen. I actually
Speaker 1: I want to get into something after that. But I
Speaker 1: remember going and hanging out with everybody, and everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to know about my off the field issues. No one
Speaker 1: really gave a shit about football. So I went and
Speaker 1: did that. But yeah, man, I was all over the place,
Speaker 1: and I was I really thought like Atlanta, Like it
Speaker 1: was Monday before the draft, and Atlanta, they had a
Speaker 1: flew a guy to my house and he's sitting there.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, what do you think about the draft?
Speaker 1: Like how do you feel everything's going? When I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just just anxious, excited to see where
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He's like, do you you think go earlier late? And
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, politically, cards will. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter where I go as long as I get a
Speaker 1: step in the door and then I'm gonna do whatever.
Speaker 1: And I had him like, dude, one hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: like hopefully like number one, but like they had Jadavi
Speaker 1: Davian Clowny out there. Dude, he was a surefire. And
Speaker 1: he goes, well, you know there's a reason why I'm here.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're there at six, be ready, have
Speaker 1: your bags packed. And I was like, holy shit, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the Atlanta Falcons. I'm going to Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: It's six. I'm like, I'm better to be a dirty bird.
Speaker 1: It's about to get crazy out here. And I remember
Speaker 1: like sitting at the draft and six came up and
Speaker 1: it's quiet, dude, and everywhere like I got my mom,
Speaker 1: my dad, my brother, my best friends, my coach, my agents,
Speaker 1: and they're all standing around and I'm staring. I'm staring
Speaker 1: at that classic phone and I hear I hear phone ringing.
Speaker 1: It's two tables over. It's Jake Matthews and like in
Speaker 1: the green room, like you're not supposed to get up.
Speaker 1: So I got up immediately and like walked like walked away,
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, maybe everything's just a lie
Speaker 1: and I'm getting punked. Maybe I'm not even good at football, dude,
Speaker 1: and they've been paying these calls' sitting like I'm like
Speaker 1: in my head so bad. I'm in the mirror staring
Speaker 1: at myself in the mirror, like, dude, you're a fucking loser,
Speaker 1: Like you ain't getting drafted. They brought you here to
Speaker 1: make a fool out of you. This has been a
Speaker 1: five year joke. And I get there, dude. I remember
Speaker 1: Detroit came up and I was like, god, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah no, the Detroit at ten. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: because I was kind of ready to move to a
Speaker 1: different state. I was like, I don't know about Detroit, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. And like when like like
Speaker 1: in the draft, like nine will be picking or ten
Speaker 1: will be picking, but eleven will be up because they've
Speaker 1: already picked it. So you guys know you're on the clock.
Speaker 1: So it'll switch from like it'll go to the next
Speaker 1: clock and they'll be like four minutes left as opposed
Speaker 1: as they're ten. And so like Tom Condon, who's like
Speaker 1: my main agent, comes over to me and whispers in
Speaker 1: my area and he's walking over to me. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: he's about to tell me Detroit. I guess that's I mean,
Speaker 1: I was gonna be happy regardless, but like you know,
Speaker 1: I was a vend in church old and he comes
Speaker 1: over whispers he was Tennessee What, Yes, Tennessee Titans. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, wait, dude, I was, And I said
Speaker 1: the same thing, Michael Ruis, Michael Orr and that phone
Speaker 1: started ringing. I don't even remember who I was talking to.
Speaker 1: I start to Carly, I think who was was she there?
Speaker 1: At that time?
Speaker 4: I thought it was Jessica.
Speaker 1: Jessica, Yeah, she was she was uh webster Rusting Webster's assistant,
Speaker 1: and I talked to them, but I was like pissed,
Speaker 1: And I wasn't mad because of Tennessee. I was just
Speaker 1: mad that I felt like lied to or like I
Speaker 1: like I had this image of my head of like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're the number one tackle and I was ended up
Speaker 1: being the third and like eleventh overall, which I know
Speaker 1: is a little bit ridiculous to be complaining about, but
Speaker 1: like that was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sitting here, Yeah, I'm sitting here listening
Speaker 3: all the time, like man like yeah, but I'm into
Speaker 3: your story thinking like yeah, it sucks, and then I'm like,
Speaker 3: well shit, I mean in my house.
Speaker 5: I guess yeah, I just yeah, because I remember you
Speaker 5: coming on your visit. But I just remember, like every
Speaker 5: every staft's different how they handle the draft and.
Speaker 4: Some places are more inclusive to the coaches than I.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the way that went, I thought we would
Speaker 5: get a tackle, But like I remember looking at it.
Speaker 1: What made you think we get a tackle? Though?
Speaker 4: Because there was three guys in that pod.
Speaker 5: It was Robinson, Jake, and you. So you just figured,
Speaker 5: like are these teams the tackles? Like here's probably who's
Speaker 5: going to where?
Speaker 4: I just didn't like.
Speaker 5: When we were watching them all you just assumed that,
Speaker 5: all right, well this guy may he probably won't be there,
Speaker 5: And then it obviously felt a different way because I
Speaker 5: think everybody probably thought you were going to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because I remember actually me and
Speaker 1: Jake Matthews were sitting there like a day or so before,
Speaker 1: and this is when it was all on Radio City
Speaker 1: in New York, and I'm like, me and Jake, we
Speaker 1: don't really know each other, but we obviously know of
Speaker 1: each other. And I'm like, man, where do you want
Speaker 1: to go? And he's like, you know, he starts, he
Speaker 1: starts talking with like, well, you know, all the teams are.
Speaker 1: I was like this just Jake made no cameras here, bro,
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Which city you want to?
Speaker 1: And in my head, dude, for the last three days,
Speaker 1: I've been a falcon, you know, like.
Speaker 2: If my head, like if I head.
Speaker 1: After I was told I was like, yo, you are
Speaker 1: a falcon, and he's like, man, I really want to
Speaker 1: go to the Atlanta Falcons. I'm like, dude, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: That's sick. That's crazy, no doubt. But honestly, I think
Speaker 1: if I went to the Falcons that my life would be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have done as well in
Speaker 1: a place like Atlanta. I think like the city of Nashville.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a bumpy road that
Speaker 1: second season, but fuck, dude, these guys took me in
Speaker 1: like nobody's business. It's crazy how much like people are
Speaker 1: so receptive to me as an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a great place.
Speaker 5: It's awesome, dude, and they do I mean, no, there's
Speaker 5: no sidebar, but that you talk about awkward dynamics because
Speaker 5: Jake's dad.
Speaker 4: Had been the line coach before that. The West came
Speaker 4: in like it was a completely different staff.
Speaker 5: So Bruce, who's obviously an oiler Titan legend, had been
Speaker 5: in the line coach. Yeah, and then here's his sign,
Speaker 5: and like it's like everything hangs in the balance, Like
Speaker 5: what does Atlanta do? Like, you know, is it the
Speaker 5: Titans draft Jake matt You know, it's justody.
Speaker 1: Imagine if the Matthew's got drafted by the tests Titans, maybe,
Speaker 1: like the storyline would be unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't pritty to some of those conversations. I'm
Speaker 4: curious what Rustin would have done.
Speaker 1: He probably would have took him.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys.
Speaker 3: Were that you guys, if you guys were in the
Speaker 3: market for a left tackle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Those were above my big grade. Yeah, so I don't know,
Speaker 5: but that I always thought in my head.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, what if I take Jake? Like yeah,
Speaker 4: and Bruce is awesome? Like it.
Speaker 5: You know what's cool is like I got to work
Speaker 5: with like Bruce Matthews and Russ Graham. Yeah, that's cool,
Speaker 5: like being a kid that was like an alignment that
Speaker 5: looked up to guys like and then obviously Mike Munchek too,
Speaker 5: Like those are like three studs of like the eighties
Speaker 5: and like Bruce played forever, so that.
Speaker 1: Whole family too, is just wild. The genie I remember,
Speaker 1: like I think it was it was after my second
Speaker 1: when I made my second Pro Bowl. I was I
Speaker 1: was joking. I jokingly went up to Hast the equipment guy,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I was like how many
Speaker 1: how many Pro Bowls does Bruce Matthews have and how
Speaker 1: is like, well, but about fourteen in a row. And
Speaker 1: I was like, twelve more, twelve more because I got
Speaker 1: a vendeted against the Matthews family.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I was totally kidding. Well, like two days later, is like,
Speaker 1: come in my office real quick. I come back, come
Speaker 1: on back to where I go into his office. He
Speaker 1: literally gave me a stern talking to you about like listen,
Speaker 1: Bruce like worked his ass off. He was this guy.
Speaker 1: He was that guy like you gotta respect him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, dude, I was totally kidding.
Speaker 1: That's I was like, my bad, but it's dude, I
Speaker 1: mean twenty years right, he played like nineteen or twenty
Speaker 1: years in the league and he was all Pro at center,
Speaker 1: guard and tackle.
Speaker 2: That is pretty unreal.
Speaker 1: That might not ever happen again. He is.
Speaker 4: That's an awesome guy too. Like all those guys, all
Speaker 4: three of those guys, they all have.
Speaker 5: Gold jackets, and all three of them are just awesome
Speaker 5: human beings. Yeah, and they're all, you know, different in
Speaker 5: their own ways, but they're just studs, just stug people
Speaker 5: to work for.
Speaker 4: Like Munch was was great. He taught me so much
Speaker 4: to you talked.
Speaker 5: About a guy that like guy had a gold jacket,
Speaker 5: he had done QC work like he would meticulous about
Speaker 5: drawing protections and runs like he would like he appreciated
Speaker 5: that stuff. Like you've met obviously Munch coaching the Probramah,
Speaker 5: So like I've been really lucky, Like I've gotten to
Speaker 5: work with some awesome like legends of the game, like
Speaker 5: starting with Joe Gibbs and then getting here with Munch,
Speaker 5: and there's a named tons of guys.
Speaker 1: Dude, Munch is the man too, Like he he was
Speaker 1: an awesome guy and like I met him when he
Speaker 1: has a Steelers coach the Pro Bowl, and he was
Speaker 1: just awesome. Like him, Alejandro Ville in a wave, a
Speaker 1: pouncy di castro, like we all just hung out, had
Speaker 1: a couple of beers. He was just swapping some stories, dude,
Speaker 1: talking about the old times. All those guys talk about
Speaker 1: the old times. Man, it's not like a good story though, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a guy named Corey Smith or something.
Speaker 1: There's a country music singer. He's got oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got yeah. He's awesome from Atlanta, Georgia, and he's got
Speaker 1: a he's got a line. He's like my favorite story,
Speaker 1: start my favorite conversation, start with I remember when yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you get to that age. Man, everything's like, dude,
Speaker 1: remember what it was like this? Yeah, remember when we
Speaker 1: did this stuff?
Speaker 4: That was awesome.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be us.
Speaker 1: No, man, we get old living that present for sure,
Speaker 1: live in that present.
Speaker 2: Man. We started that stupid bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, failed, it may take off. You had some
Speaker 1: plans for this bus, man.
Speaker 4: We did have an original idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this the bus was all Taylor did. He saw
Speaker 2: the bus, it was like, yo, I gotta have it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, are we gonna be a fit
Speaker 3: everything you see? I'm sitting here thinking like, yeah, how
Speaker 3: in the hell are we gonna make this studio? Like
Speaker 3: are we just kind of being reactive? And then sure enough?
Speaker 2: Man, a couple weeks later, I'm like, hey, bro, you
Speaker 2: were you were right? Like this thing is? This thing's awesome?
Speaker 4: How the transaction go down?
Speaker 1: The bus?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 1: Just so, I never even met the dude. His name
Speaker 1: is Huan and he owns like that, he owns that
Speaker 1: coffee shop. Yeah yeah he juice Juice like they did
Speaker 1: Home Street Home. That's how I met these guys. And
Speaker 1: so Jude like we're talking about doing a podcast and
Speaker 1: we're like, what about a studio? And Juice like I
Speaker 1: guess like you guys had a conversation before you got there,
Speaker 1: before I even got there, and they're like, check out
Speaker 1: this bus, and you were it was like talor's gonna
Speaker 1: love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, man, but to show
Speaker 3: that the tailor, he's gonna love this shit.
Speaker 1: So they they were talking about studios and Juic said, well,
Speaker 1: we're at this bus and I'm like, regardless of studio
Speaker 1: or not, I'm buying that bus, regardless of price. And
Speaker 1: he goes, well, I think he only wants like six
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for the bus, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, like six hundred bucks. Like, let me go
Speaker 1: to the ATM real quick. Dude's get this thing done.
Speaker 1: Get this thing done. And and I, uh, we called
Speaker 1: Juan because we were like, where's this bus out? We
Speaker 1: had to go see it right now if it's close enough.
Speaker 1: Ended up being like forty feet away, so we like
Speaker 1: we came out in here and checked out. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: this thing is amazing. But this whole area, dude was
Speaker 1: discussing all these all these stickers were here, and then
Speaker 1: we had like there was recliners all over the place,
Speaker 1: and in the back right corner there was a bunch
Speaker 1: of like student benches and like, uh, there was a
Speaker 1: recliner in the front. It was terrible, dude. There was
Speaker 1: a there was like squirrels living in the corner.
Speaker 2: Here that you see all throughout the whole day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad. So we got a couple of
Speaker 1: guys in here, Jeff Estis and the boys, and they like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I literally I gave him, gave him
Speaker 1: ten grand I was like, I'm not going to dime
Speaker 1: above this, but yeah, to turn this into a studio.
Speaker 1: And so they put the flooring in, they cleaned the
Speaker 1: entire thing up, they put the AC unit in.
Speaker 3: Built that table that they're all that the production team's
Speaker 3: working on.
Speaker 1: But then but everybody had an input on it because
Speaker 1: like at my thought was like, oh, let's film it
Speaker 1: back there. It'll be easy because there's there's those two
Speaker 1: wheel wells that we made box stuff. Oh, it's like cool,
Speaker 1: we could just sit there. And she's like, well, the
Speaker 1: production would be better if it was facing this way.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Like Juice and Peepee had that whole
Speaker 1: thing walked down. So like we all kind of did it.
Speaker 1: We'll got the furniture, it looks a little fur rudy
Speaker 1: down there, got that seventy sheet going.
Speaker 4: I told you what made me laugh.
Speaker 5: I was trying to make sure I was getting ready
Speaker 5: to I didn't screw this up for you guys. And
Speaker 5: I was watching those promo videos that made me laugh.
Speaker 4: My ass. You liked them.
Speaker 2: They're on BUS and WTV. Yeah, you've you've.
Speaker 1: Killed it though your dad started FedEx and you like,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, let's be honest, don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything. You know what I'm saying. Your
Speaker 1: your sister doesn't and everything. What what was it about
Speaker 1: your mentality to say that I need to be self
Speaker 1: made because a lot of times people say, show me
Speaker 1: the son of a billionaire, and that kid's fucked because
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to they'll never be self made. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here you are, go play college football. College football doesn't
Speaker 1: work out the way you want from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: making to the NFL. You say I'm gonna go into
Speaker 1: coaching when you don't have to, and coaching is a
Speaker 1: very stressful job, you see, right, Yeah, and you start
Speaker 1: working your way up the ranks. How did that mindset be?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: How did you develop that mindset of like I don't
Speaker 1: care what my father did. I want to be Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean it's great. I'll give you a great question.
Speaker 5: I'll give you a shorter answer because it's a long
Speaker 5: layered answer. But first of all, like I think you
Speaker 5: gotta get a lot of credit to my parents, Like
Speaker 5: I know, idea what my dad did growing up.
Speaker 4: I just knew he worked hard.
Speaker 5: Right he was, you know, and you gotta go back
Speaker 5: and look at where my dad came from. Like he
Speaker 5: lost his dad at four, so he never knew. He
Speaker 5: never had a dad around, and my grandmother got remarried.
Speaker 5: But he basically grew up as like an only child.
Speaker 5: And my grandfather had made some money. He was an
Speaker 5: entrepreneur himself and actually was one of the co founders
Speaker 5: of like some of the short older stuff guys must
Speaker 5: have been in like the twenties or thirties. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: he was an interesting guy. I think he got remarried
Speaker 5: like four times. I think every time his wife got
Speaker 5: to twenty seven.
Speaker 4: He got remarried. I could say that now it's rest
Speaker 4: in peace of my grandmother.
Speaker 5: She's not around, but so Heah, my dad, it was like,
Speaker 5: you know, he was in his fifties and he died
Speaker 5: of a heart attack.
Speaker 4: So he grew up and then his my dad's high
Speaker 4: school coach.
Speaker 5: He had a huge impact on him, and then he
Speaker 5: ended up going to Yale. So obviously he was much
Speaker 5: smarter than I was and got into Yale. And so
Speaker 5: he was going to graduate college in nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 5: and he figured that they were gonna get he was
Speaker 5: gonna get drafted in Vietnam. So he was like, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna choose which branch are going. So he decided to
Speaker 5: go in the marine. So going into the senior year,
Speaker 5: he went to what would now be the OCS where
Speaker 5: you go to Officer Candidate School. He graduated basic school
Speaker 5: and at that point you're supposed to like, I think
Speaker 5: the basic school was supposed to be like nine months.
Speaker 5: Maybe he was like everything was sped up. He's like,
Speaker 5: before we knew it were in Vietnam, like and so.
Speaker 4: And the tours they were.
Speaker 1: Like he did a tour.
Speaker 4: He did two tours. Wow, And he was an infantry
Speaker 4: platoon leader.
Speaker 5: I think it was he was there I think all
Speaker 5: sixty seven if I had that right. And it's funny
Speaker 5: he never really talked about it growing up as he's
Speaker 5: gotten older, he's talked more about it. Then he went
Speaker 5: back as a Ford Air controller, so he did two
Speaker 5: long tours there, and you know, he credits everything to
Speaker 5: the Marine Corps where he got his ideas. Like, you know,
Speaker 5: people ask him, where'd you go to business school? He's like,
Speaker 5: I went to the Uninitied State's Marine Corps, where I
Speaker 5: learned more valuable lessons about logistics and organizing and culture
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. So his mentality is very different
Speaker 5: than a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Like he was. He was a marine at heart, and
Speaker 4: so the way like my brother is like he was.
Speaker 5: He used to get after me and my brother and
Speaker 5: he and so he had his high school coach and impact,
Speaker 5: like he wanted us to get involved in something. So
Speaker 5: he was he's such he's such a humble guy. Like
Speaker 5: if you met at me, like he's so different, but
Speaker 5: that I didn't know any different. So your little kid,
Speaker 5: you go around and.
Speaker 4: My mom's old school. She was from a big Catholic family.
Speaker 5: I think by the time all her oller brothers and sisters,
Speaker 5: I think when they're eighteen, my grandfather like get out
Speaker 5: of the house, right, And it's just some you know,
Speaker 5: southern family, like it's you gotta find find your way,
Speaker 5: and uh so they did a great job. My mom
Speaker 5: was adamant about like not gonna try to spoil these kids.
Speaker 5: And so it was like at school, so I didn't
Speaker 5: know my dad did, and like you'd be in like
Speaker 5: some grades like my dad said, your dad is you know,
Speaker 5: runs this or.
Speaker 4: He's got and I'd be like, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: My dad would beat your dad's ass.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I learned more from like other kids
Speaker 5: at school, you know.
Speaker 1: And then like obviously, so you guys don't have like
Speaker 1: a like a nice house or we did.
Speaker 5: Don't could me wrong, but it's there's nothing like like
Speaker 5: if you understand my dad wears like he has a
Speaker 5: dark gray suit like a navy blazer, like he's the
Speaker 5: most if you saw his weekend gear is like khakis
Speaker 5: and a polo and like really shined like shoes, right,
Speaker 5: Like there's nothing, there's no flair about him, like he drives.
Speaker 1: Away from a new balance.
Speaker 5: It might be what he wears when he plays tennis.
Speaker 5: He's like he looks like he's playing Wimbledon. Like there's
Speaker 5: I've never seen him in a T shirt. He doesn't
Speaker 5: want a T shirt since Vietnam.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just like and there's nothing flashy about him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's nothing flashy like the store he gets like suits
Speaker 5: in Memphis, like at this oak caall which open one
Speaker 5: here in Nashville.
Speaker 4: They like, I talked to the guy, They're like, we
Speaker 4: try to get your dad to wear like a pin
Speaker 4: strike not happening, you know. So he's just like that's
Speaker 4: what he is.
Speaker 5: He drives like an explorer, like he doesn't. So our
Speaker 5: house we had, we had decent sized land, but it's
Speaker 5: not extravagant like you walked into. It's not like what
Speaker 5: you would think on something you'd see and like like that.
Speaker 5: You know, these like mansions and Beverly Hills. And then
Speaker 5: I never knew anything because there's so many people. So
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, we have big Oscar's a lot
Speaker 5: of people. Like it just never registered to me obviously
Speaker 5: until you start getting older.
Speaker 3: But you get older though, like you get in a
Speaker 3: high school in college, like you're very aware at that
Speaker 3: point absolutely and still like you still don't succumb to
Speaker 3: the fall into that mindset of you know, still where
Speaker 3: did it?
Speaker 2: Where did it? Your parents did that great job?
Speaker 3: But at what stories happened where it cultivated the way,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to basically be my own dude,
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna find my own damn way without.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it kind of like a ship on
Speaker 5: your shoulder in the way, and it maybe was just
Speaker 5: something that hits, like because you got tired of people
Speaker 5: like assuming things about you. And that's where this game
Speaker 5: was great, because there's the thing that's unbelievable when you're
Speaker 5: playing football, no matter what position you play, it's the
Speaker 5: most eclectic group of people. You know, like you play
Speaker 5: a line or you play linebacker, receiver, like you just
Speaker 5: it's just a mixed bag of people and.
Speaker 4: You kind of find identity.
Speaker 5: And it was like, all right, well, people say, well
Speaker 5: because you went to a private school where your dad's
Speaker 5: got money, Like all right, well, now I can to
Speaker 5: play football and try to beat the shit out of
Speaker 5: somebody and prove if I'm better or not, and you
Speaker 5: would learn a lot of valuable lessons. And so it
Speaker 5: just really motivated me to say, like, there's something where
Speaker 5: I can prove it where people can't say, oh, you're
Speaker 5: only getting ahead because of this, And so that kind
Speaker 5: of motivated me and my dad and then obviously you
Speaker 5: realize as you grow older. Sure like you'd be moron
Speaker 5: not to realize, like something's different, right.
Speaker 4: Like I and going back to what I was talking
Speaker 4: about earlier, like with my dad, like he would let
Speaker 4: us travel with him, like if he wanted to know
Speaker 4: that my brother and sisters wanted. I went to my
Speaker 4: dad every when I was.
Speaker 1: Younger Southwest one through fifteen, early bird special but.
Speaker 5: Like you know, I and then looking back on it, it
Speaker 5: was like unbelievable experiences like the places I got to
Speaker 5: go with them and the people I got to meet, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and so.
Speaker 4: He just kept that in mind.
Speaker 5: It's like, look, if you don't earn it yourself, like
Speaker 5: it's not going to mean as much to you.
Speaker 4: And it's kind of what he instilled into me.
Speaker 5: So like even going to the high school, like like
Speaker 5: surely I didn't need a scholarship, but that was like
Speaker 5: a big deal in me, Like no doubt, right, it's
Speaker 5: like one of the like yet I had it, and yeah,
Speaker 5: I just have to get my parents out credit and
Speaker 5: all all my brother and sisters. Like if you ask anybody,
Speaker 5: like my mom would snap us off and my dad
Speaker 5: would like he wasn't going to tolerate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the hell of a job. And then you
Speaker 3: get into college world and into college culture and there's
Speaker 3: no like. You learned a lot there playing ball too, so.
Speaker 5: Sure you learn a lot about it. I mean every
Speaker 5: separate way. But uh, that's why I love being involved
Speaker 5: in football because you just you run into so many
Speaker 5: cool people. Yeah, interesting people, just different. There's nothing like it.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, football is unique. Man.
Speaker 2: Now you're on the bus.
Speaker 4: Now I'm on a bus.
Speaker 5: Now I'm on a bus where I pulled in this
Speaker 5: parking lot and didn't know what was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You walk in the bus and then just start talking
Speaker 2: and how dope your parents are. How great of a
Speaker 2: job they did.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I gotta give him credit due that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. That is that's got to be for him too,
Speaker 1: to not be like, yo, I'm making like this much
Speaker 1: money and not to be like get flashy or like
Speaker 1: maybe loses himself. That he got him to that point,
Speaker 1: that says a lot about him, man. Because I saw
Speaker 1: something on Twitter, the idea. It's like, uh, it's like
Speaker 1: rich people dressed like this, and it showed like Bill
Speaker 1: Gates and all those guys and they're wearing like like
Speaker 1: you just said, like khakis and yeah, driving pickups and
Speaker 1: a collared shirt and they poor people just like this
Speaker 1: and it's like Gucci belt, Louis Vuitton this but proud
Speaker 1: of that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like, yeah, the less let's flashy, the better, dude,
Speaker 1: go for this homeless look man, yeah, man, keeping it
Speaker 1: over and over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, No, it's uh.
Speaker 5: He's awesome. I talked to him all the time. He's
Speaker 5: he helps me out on something. It's funny.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: The one thing I tried to he'll never do it.
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to write a book. But he's got
Speaker 5: all these like fascinating stories, like you can ask for
Speaker 5: something like if you just put the random topic like
Speaker 5: have you ever been so and been here?
Speaker 4: Have you ever met so and so?
Speaker 5: Like you was just daying it like Vladimir Putin and
Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, I met him in France blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: and he can tell you a story about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Or he'd be like Elvis and he'd be like, well,
Speaker 4: I was growing up. Elvis was my neighbor to the backyard.
Speaker 5: And I had a little dog running to him and
Speaker 5: you know he played with the dog and like, you know,
Speaker 5: stuff like that. It's like, I want him to write
Speaker 5: these stories down and he's got way more than that.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna you can't run it.
Speaker 2: He might be on the bus one day.
Speaker 4: He could be on a bus.
Speaker 1: Would he come on the bus?
Speaker 4: You think interesting?
Speaker 5: I think John cal Perry tried to get him to
Speaker 5: a podcast, to get on his podcast at some point,
Speaker 5: and he thought about it because him and cal Perry,
Speaker 5: when cal was in Memphis, they got to know each
Speaker 5: other pretty well. I think he thought about it.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's worth a shot.
Speaker 3: What if his son called him up, he dad, man,
Speaker 3: you know boys, man, I just got on the bus
Speaker 3: and they want you.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be awesome.
Speaker 5: He's got a sense of humor, you know, as as
Speaker 5: serious as he looks like, he's got a pretty good
Speaker 5: sense of humor.
Speaker 4: So he'd ask him that question.
Speaker 1: Want to do that intimidated the bus? So whatever you
Speaker 1: want to talk about here? Do you want my mic?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you have any questions for us? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I try to get more stuff out of him now
Speaker 5: because and I just want somebody like writes my brothers
Speaker 5: and I have talked about this, like, just want to
Speaker 5: get somebody to write these stories now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's what you need.
Speaker 1: Man, As someone who's done as much as he has,
Speaker 1: it'd almost be unfair to the world to not give
Speaker 1: out the stories.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Has he met Kim Jong Um or whatever his name is. No,
Speaker 1: he is not, but just thinking a name, understanding their
Speaker 1: names of I had Frank Sinatra, Arnold Seneger. He's definitely
Speaker 1: met Frank. I love to hear that story, dude.
Speaker 5: I mean I can call him right now and ask him,
Speaker 5: is that bad radio?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have a we have a Bluetooth hooked up.
Speaker 4: He'd be so confused.
Speaker 5: That, hey, I'm on a bus in a podcast in
Speaker 5: a remote location.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He might be like, oh that's great boos Will Compton.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Jesus, hey, Jesus, just trashing you over there?
Speaker 1: Know what a dinky dude. That's awesome. I appreciate you coming.
Speaker 4: On the podcast. I didn't incriminate myself.
Speaker 1: I think he did a great job. I think he
Speaker 1: really did.
Speaker 4: You guys gonna hit like you've seen some of these
Speaker 4: things take off. I really hope it does, because you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 5: This podcast is gonna get me through film watching. I
Speaker 5: watched film and I listened to podcasts.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you hopefully you listen to this.
Speaker 4: Oh, I've gone through.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know this is my my own, but
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the delay anyone. I'm really curious to honest
Speaker 5: you guys get on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some talks to some people. We just
Speaker 1: gotta start putting up more in motion. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think the more stuff we put out
Speaker 1: like this podcast, because of who you are and how
Speaker 1: no one's really spoke to you yet, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people will be really interested in this. So
Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 4: No, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can ever do anything to come on now.
Speaker 1: Raves, dude, I talked to Raves the other day when
Speaker 1: he talked talked to us about like, you know, just
Speaker 1: be smart or whatever, and I'm like, you know, Will
Speaker 1: still wants you in the podcast. He goes, oh, I
Speaker 1: got something for Will whenever he wants.
Speaker 3: Me Taylor and said, tell Will if he has any balls,
Speaker 3: you'll have me on the pod.
Speaker 1: I'd be worried about him disrespecting me in front of
Speaker 1: the boys.
Speaker 3: I'll be talking squad yeah, cut it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh we could. He's good at that, man, he's
Speaker 1: so witty. He is last thing we'll talk about and
Speaker 1: then we we'll jump off this thing. Man. But he's
Speaker 1: he'll get in there and he'll be like, so and so,
Speaker 1: what do you think of this? And cover two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll let you know obviously a little long, maybe share
Speaker 1: some of your boys and he'll just go into it.
Speaker 1: Or when he pulls up the notes of you know what,
Speaker 1: players say.
Speaker 2: Hey, Rashan, you might want to write this ship down.
Speaker 2: It's important.
Speaker 1: He gets those rookies, man, he gets them. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shave them up, dude, Like, dude, start to lock in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he came at like Stinny and Stinny's on his
Speaker 1: p's and Ques. Yeah, locked and locked and it's awesome.
Speaker 5: Rashawan on the caravan is still the most impressive things
Speaker 5: I've ever seen on the caravan He's done.
Speaker 4: I think every one of them.
Speaker 1: He missed one, did he really?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Someone in his family past so we had to go
Speaker 1: to a funeral or something like that. But his his
Speaker 1: goal was to be the first Titans player to ever
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: To do what you go to all the caravans? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 2: RAS's a good dude.
Speaker 1: Man, What a unique thing to be the first to do.
Speaker 2: I want to be the first.
Speaker 1: I's like Ripley's believe it or not, like first person
Speaker 1: to stack forty seven paper clips on top of each other,
Speaker 1: like something ridiculous. Okay, that's a world record.
Speaker 2: But hey, Ray, I'm sure you're going to listen to this.
Speaker 3: You texted Taylor and said, if Will has any balls,
Speaker 3: to get me on the bus. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: if you have any balls, text me to get on
Speaker 3: the bus.
Speaker 2: Oh, don't run it with that juice. No, that's solid.
Speaker 2: That was solid.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, I'm being the next team
Speaker 1: meeting after this thing airs.
Speaker 4: Hey what yeah, you tell.
Speaker 1: Compton that if here's any balls that I got, the balls,
Speaker 1: that we got the balls, I
Speaker 4: Have me on