WEBVTT - Arthur Smith 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.760 Hello, while you fellow busting with the boys advocates, the puppies, 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.760 the tiny little puppies. This is your guy, your dad, 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.200 Taylor Lawan speaking to you right now and as always, 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:18.360 my special little guy will Compton, my little wolfie. He 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.000 was a puppy and I was a pre puppy, preteen puppy, 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:26.640 growing up so fast, grown, so proud of how fast 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.680 you're growing up and a man and wolf you're becoming. Seriously, 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.120 you make you make a father proud. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.560 I'm glad I can make you proud. I got brother. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.320 That's a week. I can't be a brother. And your 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.320 dad you ain't my dad? 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:42.200 Do you talk about? 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:47.680 Yeah? Sorry, I got a guess today. I know MYOC, 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.000 my offensive coordinator. We had Arthur Smith on and you know, 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.640 not a lot, not a lot out there about Arthur 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.400 Smith right now. Guy was has been with the Tennessee 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.920 Titan since twenty eleven and has worked his way up, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.840 scratched and clawed to become the offensive coordinator of an 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.759 NFL franchise, which is a pretty cool story. A lot 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.720 of things go into it. Though. Arthur's father started FedEx, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.160 and you think to yourself, this guy's probably a brat. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.600 He's probably a spoiled little brat. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.600 Little trust fun baby. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.760 Yeah, a little trust fund baby. But the thing about 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.080 this baby is this baby works his tail off and 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.319 has made a self made man, which is a pretty 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.839 unbelievable feat, especially with you know, growing up and having 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.520 a father who is so successful, right right, It doesn't 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:31.960 really happen. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.480 It happen a lot. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.800 He does have his own story. His sister's got his 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.759 own story, which we get into that as well. Talk 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.720 about a lot of things, man. At one point we 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.600 even talked about psychedelics, so that's always a fun topic 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:44.280 to jump into. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.800 Dude, he was good, man, he was insightful. He we 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.600 ask some pretty solid questions too. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.440 We did a good job as well. You're right, sometimes 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.040 you gotta pump the tires. 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.040 Yeah, baby. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.040 But I'll tell you what, if you're thinking about it, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.160 if you're on the fence of it, let me persuade 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.480 you just a little bit. Let's jump on Twitter, jump 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.600 on Instagram. Let's go to Bustin' WTB. That's one full 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.240 no spaces Bustin' WTB. Click the follow button and then 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.120 just start retweeting things. Just start retweeting everything, and just 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.720 send us things. Maybe we think something is cool, guess what, 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.560 we'll retweet it. And if Busting retweets it, I will 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.079 retweet it, and so well Will. But make sure you 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.760 gotta follow Busting with the Boys Busting WTB on Twitter 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.919 and Instagram. And if you're thinking I need a little 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.639 video content, Taylor, I want to see your beautiful face 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.880 and will and so you're thinking. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.639 Will and will beautiful smile? 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.560 Yeah, you have a great smile, dude, you had a 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.840 great smile. How did how were you born? With that? 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:47.120 It's incredible. So YouTube you can go Busting with the Boys. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.519 That's the full thing right there, and we'll have a 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.840 lot of content up there for you. Give that a like, 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.760 give that a follow, and help it. Subscribe a little 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.880 bit too. Facebook, don't have it, had it at one point, 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.760 kind of bailed on it. It's a little too personal 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.200 for me, but never too personal. If you have it 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.799 to jump on bust Them with the Boys, which is 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.680 also our Facebook page, go ahead and do it. If 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.799 you're listening on a podcast like subscribe. And it's only 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.280 because I care, dude. I care about the bus and 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.920 I care about the boys on the bus and the 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.040 puppies and I care about the puppies, dude. You know why, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.280 because this bus can fill up all the puppies, dude. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:20.959 And if we ever think to ourselves we don't have 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.800 enough space for all the puppies, we'll just buy a 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.440 bigger bus, and we'll buy a mansion for the puppies, dude, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.040 and we'll call it the Denies, all the wolf puppies, dude. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.880 And you'll get your own little place and we'll take 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.120 hey and we'll put it around and we'll put a 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.120 bunch of hay around it, and then you guys can 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.840 sleep there, so you comfy puppies. You can go from 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.440 uncomfy puppies to very comfy puppies. Because you're on the 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.840 street right now. You're on the street and you don't 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.080 know what is going on in life. You're thinking, I 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.160 need I need help. I need a caller and I 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.920 need a leash. I need someone to guide me and 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.360 feed me and give me belly RUPs. Guess what, if 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.960 you're watching on YouTube, you're looking at them. If you're 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.960 hearing me, then I'm coming through your Sarah Bellum baby 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.480 to that other ear. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.040 I feel you, dude, I feel you. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.280 Yeah, you feel me? 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.200 How do I feel you? 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:06.960 I'm ready for Juice to drop that hook though you 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.680 said you're what. I'm ready for Juice to drop them. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.760 I heard you the first time, but stop repeating yourself. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.560 Juice drop that hook, my baby. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.120 I do not have the bone right. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.760 What did you ask him earlier? You're like, uh, you 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:22.400 use that thing? 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.560 I've had sex, Yeah, Matt, So listen to this. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:28.480 It's true. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.680 Actually we can. This is gonna be the first question 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.760 of our podcast. So you're busting with the boys, Art 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:34.720 and you can. You can move that thing, bring it down. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.080 Dudes. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.440 It's very uncomfortable, I know, because it's like, you know, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.599 that's all right, this whole thing. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.560 It's a boy dude. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.160 I'm kind of fired up because Art and I got 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.280 a lot of stories together, for sure. But you're busting man. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.600 So a couple of things. One, we got the AC going. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.040 You might hear that a little bit in your ears, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.800 And if anybody's listening, that's the AC because it's hot 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.320 on the bus. About every thirty five minutes a train 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.440 comes by, we'll we'll point it out. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.839 We'll take that paus and then we'll continue. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:06.520 So where do you think you go after you die? 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.359 Personally? I don't. I have no idea. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.279 I mean, nobody truly knows where we get that, don't 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:13.880 you know? 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:15.920 People came back? 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.040 Yeah, yeah, they talk about what they see. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.520 I think there's something out there to where there's you know, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.760 it's like some chemical that's released to where you think 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:25.359 you see. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.719 The afterlife or whatever vision I think is pain. I 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:30.280 think so yea. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:30.520 Yeah. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.160 D m T is called the dream drugs and it's 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.760 like a chemical release like I think when you're born 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.760 and when you die, and that's what they say is 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.560 like d d MT and you can chemically make it, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.400 like people talk about it all the time. So I 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.920 don't know exactly what it is. But so okay, a 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.679 lot of people say that, you know, that burning bush 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.479 and from religious they say that like that had a 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.279 chemical of d MT in it. So I don't and 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.839 I'm not religiously. I don't understand a lot of those things. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.080 But the guy who was around the burning bush or 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.920 saw the burning bush and got the tablets or whatever, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.159 it could have been d MT that had him see 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:04.640 these these things. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.240 Oh So in a way of trying to kind of debunk. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.640 Yeah, I mean everybody's always trying to bunk. It's it's 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:11.960 a crazy, crazy gig. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.120 Well, I mean, how do you fact check somebody on that? 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.520 I know, right, Yeah, Like who wants to try and say, Hey, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.120 I'm gonna like tick myself to the brink of death 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.080 and see if I can come back. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.120 Well, you don't have to take yourself to They call 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.240 it blasting off like Urban Dictionary. It's they blasting off. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.880 It's like people taking shrooms or acid or stuff like that. 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.080 Like people take that stuff and it's like apparently a 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.000 fifteen minute thing and you just lay there and it 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.520 takes you to like a weird universe apparently, Like Joe 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.359 Rogan talks about that stuff all the time, how like 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.800 it changed his life. Like d MT ayahuasca. Those are 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.240 supposed to be like crazy hallucinogens that are like some 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.719 wild stuff, wild wild stuff. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.280 Yeah, that's that's just creepy. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:54.720 It is. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:07:01.360 It's scary, man. They they decriminalized mushrooms and in uh Colorado, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.880 which is just one so you can do it right. Yeah, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.919 it's like not fully like illegal, it's not fully legal, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.920 but like like I guess people are turning more of 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.800 a blind eye to everything now. Yeah, yeah, it's a 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:14.360 crazy deal. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:15.800 It's like you. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:17.760 Ever hear about those like tech parties that have in 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:23.080 Silicon Valley all that stuff. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:24.800 Oh you go not a rabbit hole. Read about some 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.560 of those like tech Silicon Valley like parties. It's it's crazy. Yeah, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.840 they live like double life out there. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.440 I mean if you saw you saw what is it 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.040 called Social Network? Do you ever see that movie that's 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.440 the one they made Facebook? Yeah, yeah, Well they had 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.800 a Silicon Valley party and that's when they're with like 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.120 underage girls snorting coke. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.239 That's like minor supple. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.040 I think it's minor compared to the Yeah, there's been 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.160 some articles about it. It's it's some wild stuff. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.080 You probably get in some deep places out there in La. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.760 Dude. I feel like cities like La Chicago, New York 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.880 are so big that like it'd be almost uncomfortable because 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.760 I'll never see the same person twice. Do you know 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.360 what I'm saying? Yeah, Like your sister, Your sister lives 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.880 in La, right, yeah, and I'm sure like where does 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:06.440 she live in La? 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.800 She like just moved. She was in the Hollywood Hills, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.080 was she? Yeah, But it was just like traffic sucks 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.239 so bad there. So like your orbit, it's like work, 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.760 where do you hang out people? So it does get small, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.120 like I guess any city, but. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.160 You can get lost with all that stardom and celebrity type. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.040 Like you go down to Nashville, you go down Broadway 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.440 like that's the main spot, but you can split off 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.160 in their areas. Like National's not a huge city. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.200 Yeah, it's like a big small town. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.080 Yeah. Really, So like I see the same people all 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.640 the time I go out to eat, and also like 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.040 three or four people that I know. Yeah, I feel like 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.040 when I'm in La everyone's just backdropped, Like I'm walking 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:40.600 by people and these people are just like a scene 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.560 in my movie. Yeah what I'm saying, that's a good description. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.280 It sounds because you're never gonna see those people again. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:47.960 Yeah you say your sister lives there? 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:48.480 She does. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.640 Yeah, she wrote Okay, so I know this about your sister. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.720 She wrote. Was she the writer? 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:54.560 She was not the writer? 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.120 What was she for Cicario? The producer for Cicario? What 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.960 other any other movies? 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.319 Yeah, she's done a lot. The first one that she 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.199 kind of got going on was PS I Love You, which. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.880 Is a movie with Hillary Swink that was that was 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:08.760 probably fifteen. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.240 Years, such a phenomenal Movivie, such a great movie. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.800 Butler, Butler, She's got some great stories about different actors 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:16.400 and actresses. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.400 She'd probably be more interested in me on this thing. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.800 We gotta get her on the bus, get her jump on. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.480 And then you know, the one that really got her 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.679 going was The blind Side. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:28.600 She did The blind Side. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.800 She she helped get the script. She was one of 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.120 the producer producers on it. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.160 And that story goes, you know, way back with my 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.880 family because the family is from Memphis. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.640 Guy wrote the book. The script was floating around a 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.280 lot of people looked at it and like, hey, this 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.920 is probably too cheesy on the blind Side and the blind. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.640 Side, Yeah, it's like how do you make this movie 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.600 without it looking like too family extreme, like nobody believes 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:51.960 it or. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.360 Yeah like hey you ran fast on the street getting 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:55.120 the car right. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.280 You know. So they took it, and I think a 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.960 lot of putting maybe a basically just the story. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.600 What Molly told me was that's my sister, was that 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.760 people in Hollywood is like, now, this will never work. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.960 It is not And then she was pretty adamant if 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.400 it was done right with the right directors, the right 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.079 actors and actresses that. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:13.400 It would it would hit. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.120 You never thought it would hit the way it did. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.839 And it came out and Believe for Thanksgiving and it 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.680 just like just took off. 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:19.920 D that's awesome. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.280 Yeah, So that kind of gave. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.959 Her a little cloud out there, and then she broke 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.439 off and then she started her own uh production company, 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.559 and then they had some you know, they buy and. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.400 Sell scripts all the time. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.480 It's most stuff she does, and then they they get 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.960 the funding to make the movies, they go with it. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:36.880 So that's sweet. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.000 Yeah, and it's like it's like our business a little 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.320 bit like you got She's had some really. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.960 Good ones and she's had ones that get these. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.280 We were talking about the other day with another guest, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.240 how like people are so afraid to fail now, right 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.080 that if you go and you put yourself out there 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.880 and things don't go well, it's like, oh, I can't 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:55.120 do this. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:55.480 Fuck it. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:56.760 Yeah, but you got to go and you get to 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.719 learn to go and learn, and then that's where you 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.360 get to those kind of positions. You make a movie 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:01.560 like The Blind set like Cecario. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.000 Yeah, Yeah, it's like it could be paralyzing to people. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.440 Most people they don't want to, Like, you, guys, put 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.680 yourself out there and like everybody's watching you, and you 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.160 go to you know, practice and meetings and you get 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.480 picked apart, and like you gotta be very strong minded 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:16.599 to go out get out there and do it. But 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.679 you're putting yourself out there and understanding that you're gonna 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.960 have failure. And most people don't even don't want that 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.920 at all. They're like, like, who wants to live like that? 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.200 Just paralyze in your fears. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.360 Yeah, it's things now more than ever too, because of 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.720 social media. Social media, dude, it's. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:30.920 Like, oh, you crucified there. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.080 You get crucified out there. Like dudes like Kevin Durant, dude, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.559 arguably the best basketball player in the world, and he's 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.440 got his own burner accounts that he's been caught on 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.640 like numerous times. It's like, yo, dude, like you can't 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.760 get like, if you're a wolf, you can't care about 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.880 the opinions of sheep, right, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:47.720 So that is true. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.440 It's tough to hear because I love I love fucking 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.040 being a wolf. But so I have a story on 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:53.440 that too. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:53.679 Not. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.000 I don't have a burner account. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.600 But when social media you talk about not caring about 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.959 that stuff like it's it's interesting how it can affect 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.760 your psyche. Like there was a year we were playing 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.200 the All where Ills on the Skins and we were 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.840 playing the Cowboys and I had missed, like I had 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.360 missed like two tackles in a row on Ezekiel Elliott, 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.640 and the second one when my approach was happening, I'm thinking, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.360 in my head, I can't miss this one. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.920 You know, sure enough you think what you think, you 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.320 become yet y'all all that stuff. 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.960 But I'm on the bench thinking, I wonder what Twitter 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.000 is saying about me right now? 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.720 Really yeah, yeah, yeah, vulnerable. I'll say it. I'll admit it. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.640 I'm thinking that that In that moment, I knew. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.520 I had let that type of shit go too far 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.679 with me to where I had to I had to reevaluate, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.480 you know, what I was feeding my mind, what I 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.360 was kind of buying into. But and then hearing the 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.719 durant stuff like that's crazy. But at the same time, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.720 I'm thinking, like, you know, I'm not that surprised, because 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.520 guys get so you can create such a I don't 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.120 know insecurity about it because you're reading this shit about 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.559 you and you get so worked up or wrapped up 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.240 in what they're saying and what they're eating compared to 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.440 the all the other great stuff in your fans. But 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.760 you see that one negative and you're just like fixated 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:06.920 on it, and you kind of like. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.400 Man, I wonder if my coaches think this way. I 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:09.560 wonder if this person thinks this way. 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.480 I wonder if you know coach already, if he thinks 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.040 this way about me being a tight end or something, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.640 you know what I mean. And then you do something 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.320 to practice. You're like all that kind of mimics what 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.560 so and so is saying. So I wonder my peers 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.360 and my buddies they saw that same tweet and they're thinking, 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.800 you can create such a damn just a snowball effect 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.760 in your mind where you just start to fuck yourself a. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.840 Little bit, put yourself in a hole, man, yeah, yourself 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.920 in a whole big time. And then you get exposed 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.800 that the the like like even like it's go as 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.559 far as like suicide. Like people are so affected by 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.880 social media that like it it gets crazy too, where 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.920 people are so messed up they think that they can't 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.360 get any worse than this, or it can't get any 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.839 better than this. Yeah, you know this is this is 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.560 as worse as it can be. Like for me, I 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.120 remember about three or four years ago, is when Malarkey 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.800 was the head coach and we played the Raiders and 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.679 the home opener and I went out and I like, uh, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.600 there was that pile taje and cut the ball and 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.280 I went and I dived in the pile or whatever. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.040 I got crucified. Dude, I was. I was killed for that. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.840 Even Kirk kurb Street said something like, you're a fake 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.920 tough guy. You're this, You're that. He and I have 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.960 worked out our differences since then. We definitely have developed 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.080 some sort of a relationship ever poor if you will. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.080 But dude, it's got It's like it's crazy and I 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:18.720 get out and I get out there, and dude, I'm 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.760 thinking the same thing, Like what's people saying like because 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.040 in my head I'm like, dude, I lost this that game. Yeah, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.400 you know, like because the pressure you put on yourself, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.160 you put so much pressure on yourself and you want 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.760 to be that guy. Dude. Everybody, like everybody wants to 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.160 be that dude, especially in sports. I'm sure you did 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.120 when you were when you played at North Carolina, you 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.920 were a guard and you were thinking yourself when you 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.680 had a scholarship. You're like, I'm going to go to 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.160 the NFL and I'm gonna be this. I'm gonna be 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:40.360 the next great that you know. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.960 And you cared so much about what everybody said. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.280 And it's hard because you basically you're letting everybody in 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.600 the world talk shit to you opening your phone, Like 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.840 that's what I'm saying, Like the way that things evolved, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.400 Like you can open your phone and get online and 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.040 it's like, oh, well, will Taylor, you guys, you're terrible. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.800 You played like shit or whatever, and you got to 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.440 read that. So like it takes a lot of willpower 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.240 to be like who cares right, because it will it 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.440 can affect people's decision here exactly right. And then going 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.880 back to the Facebook stuff, the best thing they ever did, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:12.920 which is kind of like an evil genius, was creating 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.080 the like bud it's like a dopamine rush from people 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.600 sitting there and like you see it happen to people 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.400 all the time. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.960 Like yeah, there's like studies posted pictures. It's like only 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.000 got ninety something likes. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.800 I got one hundred and fifty likes, Like can message 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.080 people psychology sends people on depression and those people can't 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.320 separate that, Like all you're seeing is the best version 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.320 of somebody's life if you get on Instagram. Yeah, and 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.320 if you don't know that or whatever, like people getting 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.000 this downwards viral about this stuff. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.000 Yeah, and I give you guys a tweet back up. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:38.560 Yeah. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.880 No, It's like that's tough, I mean, because you guys 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.720 are putting yourself out there and you're right, I mean, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.840 you're human, but you just got to find a way 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.800 to say, like, look, you're never as great as somebody 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.920 tells me I am, and it never as bad, right, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.120 really do, because sure everybody wants. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:53.680 To be complimented. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.440 But like you can know when you go to a 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.200 bar right now, if you walk to the bar and 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:58.920 you'd have like seven people may run up to you, 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.520 and it's like, are what's their angle? 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.320 Why is everybody being so nice. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.120 That it's not the seven people that come up to you, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.840 Because everyone that comes up to you is always gonna 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.800 be nice to you. There's three or four in the 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.120 back that are like, yo, look at this fucking asshole. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.400 Or that dude walks back to his group and he's like, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.080 I mean you were just trashing Taylor earlier. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.480 Like he's like, yeah, I mean I'm not gonna say 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:14.760 to his. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.840 Face, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the tweet right 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.200 there from uh kerk Herbstreet You're an absolute fraud bro 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.440 and yeah hashtag loafer, which of all the things he said, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.800 loafer hurt the most. Absolutely hurt me the most. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:29.040 Man. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.800 But I remember seeing that, like, dude, because Kirk, dude, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.920 Kirk's like a staple of this town, just like Eddie George's, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.240 like Tim McGraw is like, and so I took down 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.440 like dude, I got I'm getting killed out there, and 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.080 every and everybody followed suit dude. People were super pissed 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.840 for a good reason too. It wasn't a smart play. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.600 You think about finishing all the time, And I mean 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.760 I didn't even hit a defender. I just I like 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.320 basically gave to Marco a concussion. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:52.560 Dude. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.200 I smacked him, Yeah, I smacked him up a little bit. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.440 But it's kind of it's kind of that human humanizing 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.920 factor and element too, Like you just you said it earlier, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.400 like you want to be the dude, like you want. 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.359 To seem like you're unfaceable, you're untouchable. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.639 You see somebody else and you're like, the way he 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.840 cares himself, he must not. 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.640 He must he must be like there's no way that 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:12.760 he thinks like the way I do. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.560 Yeah, and you kind of do that whole compared they like, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.440 you know, you're in you're a new oc like in 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.840 the coaching world, Like coaches got to be numb to 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.680 that stuff too, And I think there's a maturity about 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.160 it to where like back on my situation, you kind 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.560 of have that you can't teach experience. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.520 Well, you're like you've done such a good job, like 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.400 two thou like you've been at the Titans since twenty eleven. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.400 You've kept such a low profile. And do you even 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:33.919 have social media? Like do you have it? 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.400 Just just for the Instagram account that I use privately, 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.800 just because I've got such a big family and it 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:40.880 helps me keep up with friends. 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:42.800 But I didn't, like I've thought about getting off it. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:48.040 I barely ever post. My wife will post stuff, but yeah, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:49.840 and that's really just to keep up with people, because 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.640 like you know, you lose touch with some people from 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.560 college and like they move away, like, oh. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.040 So and so is like had another kid or whatever. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.119 It is like sadly you find out about some people 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.000 that way to keep in touch and then it reminds you, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.359 like I'll shoot shoot my buddy at text down and 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:03.080 talked to him a while. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:03.680 Yeah. 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.760 Yeah, But the Twitter stuff, because it's the same thing 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.359 you guys do, Like if you start letting that stuff 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.800 seep in your mind, it can paralyze you as a play. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.040 Caller, as a coach, and you start like affecting it. 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.639 Like we all need constructive criticism, right, But if you're 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.800 sitting there trying to please the masses, and there's actually 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.000 been studies shown that Twitter is just a loud echo 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.000 chamber of the minority. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.520 So it's all a bunch of group think and if. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.199 Right one way, or if you said something controversial, and 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:26.880 then you've got all these people and they're not trying 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.399 to paint you as the worst person in the world. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.359 But most people, majority of people don't feel that way. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:32.600 Because it's a silent majority. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.720 Yeah, And there's companies react to that stuff all the 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.560 time like one incident like or one bad actor or 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.200 one bad experience in the company. And then also the 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.320 fundamentally change everything because of a Twitter mob. That good, 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.439 but in the long term it's really a flawed business 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.280 model and you can basically alienate fifty percent of your 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:49.080 customers right away. 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.840 No, you're right. Do you think coaches look into that 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:52.600 stuff sometimes? 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.000 Out, no question, du Everyone's human, and if you're a 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.440 person of status or a person that has some some 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.119 sort of a following, you're always like people are so 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.000 receptive to the negative than they are to the positive. Sure, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.640 because you hear a positive thing and you're like, yeah, okay, cool, 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.160 Oh that makes you feel good, But like a negative feeling, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.960 a negative comment makes you feel like it has such 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.560 a more of a dramatic effect on you that it's 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.840 like it can consume people. Just like you're saying, yeah, 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.639 but you got to be smarter about the stuff. I 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.320 try to I try to stay off all that. But 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.440 at the end of the day, man like I fall suit, dude, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.359 I've yeah, I've googled my name, of course I have. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.119 I bet you learned the Twitter search and people, you know, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.800 they bring up a whole bunch of stuff. And the 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.199 worst part about it is is if you did do 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.240 something in the past, people want to comment and think 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.679 they know the entire story, when when it's probably not 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.200 even true whatever whatever it is, you know, And I mean, 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.439 I know I have situations like that from college and 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.719 high school and everything, and people like he's a terrible guy. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:49.960 It's like, do you get to know me first? You 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.880 know what I'm saying. It takes a little bit of time, 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.719 but people people want to throw opinions out, especially on 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.119 social media, Like you talk to somebody, if you and 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:58.560 you and I met for the first time, I'm not 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.879 gonna be like this is how I feel. Yeah, and 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.440 people but like if I walked away out on Twitter, yeah, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.960 like Arthur Smith, I feel this way. You're a terrible coach, 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.119 You're this, you're that, And it's like, you know, a 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.040 lot of keyboard warriors out there, baby, that's the thing, man, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:12.360 don't be a keyboard warrior. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.160 Well that's the other thing too, is like nothing goes 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.679 away now. So if like say you did have like 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:18.720 you said something in the high school, you see it 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:19.440 the draft all the time. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.400 They pull up these tweets. These kids think when they're. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.199 Like twelve or thirteen, that like God, who knows how 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:25.800 you thought when you're twelve or thirteen. 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:27.280 And you all know how we thought. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.120 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.280 So like you bring up the worst moment in somebody's 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.280 life and then it follows them when it really is 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.439 like you're basically saying somebody can never change, which is 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.240 so flawed. Like think out different we all are from 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.120 when you're twelve, eighteen, your first year in the NFL 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:42.520 to where you are now. 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.760 No question, you definitely evolve as humans. 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:46.040 So when people sit there and they bring and they 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.960 just rake people over, the calls over like they crucify 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.200 them all some high school stuff exactly, and like, yeah, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.919 they probably shouldn't have said it, they did, but that 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.080 doesn't mean they're a horrible person. To your point, like 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.159 they just want to and that follows some people from 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:01.520 wherever they go, and it's. 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:03.679 And they stay pissed off if they don't feel like 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.760 we need it, We need to hear an apology publicly. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.080 Yeah, And it's just like, dude, I'll get a reaction 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:09.480 out of you. 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.159 Yeah, this is what I'm showing power over you because 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.360 you said something off the coff and I'm offended. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.560 So you need to apologize. I will make you apologize. 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.320 It's like that's it's a lot of people. 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.480 Yeah, it's definitely, And I think that people have a 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.919 lot of like what is it they feel it's so 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.159 entitled nowadays, like hey, my my feelings are hurt, so 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.920 I'm entitled to whatever whatever, you know, an apology or 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.000 a safe space and stuff like that. And then reality 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.880 is like, dude, ship doesn't go people's way all the time, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.320 and you gotta like, like, I know it's a touchy subject, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.760 but the participation trumphy thing, like if you go and 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.240 you get second place, well that dude, that's silver, you know. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.560 If you get first, that's gold, if you get third, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.919 that's bronze, and then after that it's done, you know. 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.720 And it's like it definitely I know how he can 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.479 people can see it as like, oh, it'll take building 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.680 kids and you want to build them up and stuff 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.280 like that, because you absolutely do. Kids kids now more 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.399 than ever, need confidence, but they also need to understand 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.840 what adversity is and if you don't do well in 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.680 something that you need to get either work harder, reevaluate 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.080 what you're doing and make a couple of changes and 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.000 and and move forward and progress so you can get 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:20.439 to that silver they get to that gold. 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.680 Yeah, and it's it's preaching. 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:23.280 It's tough. 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.680 It goes back to what you said, handle failure, got 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.080 to handle failure, And I get it. You're like, you 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.160 don't want to crush a kid when he's six because 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:32.119 they're all different. 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:33.320 Like I watch my son right now. 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.320 He's one of the younger kids on his teams, and 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.080 kids develop at different ages, right to make a judgment, 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.920 and some some dad thinks his kid's going to the 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:41.840 NBA and he six years olds, like, hey, buddy, god. 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.240 It's probably yeah. 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.240 You know, they get all they get all prideful because 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:46.639 their kids can make a basket. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.359 It's like, hey, just let them, let them develop. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:49.840 But you also don't want the kid to have such 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.520 a bad experience where like the coach is going nuts 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.280 at a fifth and six fifth or five and six 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.840 year old basketball game, where the kid that becomes disinterested. 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.199 So it's a fine line, but you're right the like 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:01.720 you gotta be able to hand failure. You want to 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.600 build them up, have a good experience. 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.760 And especially when everything gets pulled at the end of 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.639 the day, like you're gonna enter the real world and 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.480 you can paint the kid the growing up however you want. 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.600 But the real world is cutthroat. 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.359 Yeah, like if you're trying to make it and stuff like, 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:20.760 it's business. It's business man like in any in any area, 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.400 once you get to a certain level, it's all business 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:25.199 and how you perform. 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.439 I can't imagine how your sister feels doing that stuff, 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.040 Like there's everyone's a producer. Yeah, that guy's right there 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:32.960 as a producer. You know what I'm saying, right, and 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:34.920 like for her go and make it the way she did. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.560 Like people go to school just to be a producer, 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.600 and if it doesn't work out, what are you going 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:40.240 to fall back on? 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:40.840 Right? 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:41.320 You know? 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:46.520 Yeah, it's crazy, it is, but you know it's goes back. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.920 Like I think it's whether you want to really live 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:51.920 life and enjoy and put yourself out of there, you're 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.679 just gonna hide in the shadows the whole time. Yeah, 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.679 And like when you do a profession, you two guys do, 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:58.560 you definitely put yourself out there. 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.120 So she had those experiences and it goes back. 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.920 I don't imagine at some point from middle school through 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:05.760 college you had it. 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.680 That's some adversity you had to overcome. Whether it's yeah, U, 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:11.680 I'm gonna purough this. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.199 It doesn't have to be something as dramatic as like 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.320 a professional sport either. Like if you're working a nine 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.679 to five job, dude, and you're just absolutely miserable on 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.400 a day to day basis, and you're good at baking 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:27.200 or you're good you're good at making pastries, Like maybe 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.040 you can go and put yourself out there like that, 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.600 you know what I'm saying. You start a little hobby, 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.879 Like it's so easy now, like to make a website 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.160 or do any of that stuff, and just to put 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.040 yourself out there. Just put the things out there, because 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.240 all it takes you is one person to retweet it 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.280 or like it, and then that's That's the good thing 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.639 about social media is it gives people an outlet of imagination. 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.680 You can go and you can get on Twitter and 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.760 you can see what people across the world are doing 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.600 that you didn't get to see thirty years ago or 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.240 whatever what ninety six when the Internet was invented, you know, 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.720 and so like it doesn't have and we alwayspeak about dramatics, right, 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.600 We talked about pro athletes, we talk about actors, we 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:03.280 talk about rock stars. Professional coaching, those like professional coaching 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.639 like NFL coaching. Those kinds of things are it's easy 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.240 to say, yeah, put yourself out there and do it. 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.680 But like if your passion's baking or or woodworking or 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.199 like or you know, you want to open up a bar, 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.400 then you just gotta you just gotta go do it. 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.880 And like you're gonna you're gonna stumble and you're gonna fall, 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.040 but that you just got to keep on pressing forward 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.879 and eventually you'll find your way or your niche that 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.840 I'll get you to that point, right right. 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.000 That's a great point. I mean, look at this town, 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:30.560 looking at on all of the restaurants that have opened 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.800 up here. It's competitive, as i'd imagine. I mean, I 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.119 don't know that world, but i'd imagine if you're a 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.880 chef in Nashville, you're. 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.840 Opening the first six months, most of those places shut 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.120 down like that, right right, It's it's wild. 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.360 People trying to sabotage you. In the reviews. 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.040 Yeah, we were, we were talking about your sister. How 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:51.000 many siblings do you have? 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:52.040 I want to ten? 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.000 What what holy ship? 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:56.040 That's a busy man. 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:56.800 Yeah? 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.400 Boys? Like how many boys? Girls? 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:00.800 Uh? 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:02.200 Three boys? Seven girls? 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.240 So my dad had had two daughters from a previous marriage. 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.639 My mom had one and then they got married and 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.120 they're still married and there's seven of us. 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:10.560 Wow. 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.760 Yeah, yes, my mom's big Catholic. 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:15.000 I don't know what my dad is. 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.640 Never met my father. That's a joke for both of us. 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:25.240 Yes, dude, that's yeah, that's crazy. One of ten kids. 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.920 How did you get any attention from your parents when 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:27.439 you were younger? 0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:29.280 It probably helped me because I didn't care. 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:30.919 Like I tell you, the one thing I did do 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.200 and this is the way I was when I was little. 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.080 So my mom, my mom was awesome, like if you, 0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.320 if you guys ever came to Memphis and like you 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.119 needed to, like I wanted to go by and get 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:41.320 it me. 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.359 I mean she would feed everybody. So like my house 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:44.600 growing up was pure chaos. 0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:48.800 Yeah, and in a good way where friends were always 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.800 allowed over. I had a bunch of cousins, like constant people. 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.280 My mom would always feed you know, feed you like it. 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.760 It was like a great place and it probably helped 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.399 me in this job because like I love the chaos, 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.280 I love people like That's what's helped me coach. I 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:05.600 love football in the relationships you build. But it's no, 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.000 it was it was a great household to grow up in. 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:09.359 Are you what are you? Where are you at the 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.359 oldest youngest, I'm the fourth youngest. 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:12.880 Make sure that Mike's work in front of your face. 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.000 Oh yeah, so you're you know, you're good. 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.600 You can get comfy too, just making sure. Yeah, I 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.040 want to hear you. Got to get some good ship 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.600 to say, get the mic here, got to get Who 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.640 would you say right in front of your face? 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:23.320 Who would you say? 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:23.720 Is the more? 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:27.720 The most? Uh? The most? I don't want to say successful, 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.440 but like the you know, is it your sister? 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:30.800 Yeah? 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.879 Like, are you like a fan boy when she's producing 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:33.320 a movie? 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.080 Like say, when Ccario two is coming out, are you like, hey, sis, 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.280 so is uh Sacario two coming to the works? 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.199 Like, well, I've been crushing her about like Icario three. 0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:42.399 Really yeah, they're right now. 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.120 That's awesome, man, you're right there right now. 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.920 Yeah, that's I tell you. It was a really Benicia adult. 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.200 Toro was a really cool guy. I went to the premiere. 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:50.680 Oh dude, that's awesome. 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.720 So I want him and Josh Brolin are awesome, so 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.560 you have to meet him. Yeah, And they were just 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:57.000 like real some people you meet out there. 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.000 You know, they're so used to the bubble they're in 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:00.080 and they get their view. 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.440 Distorted, but they were real people. 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:06.560 Yeah, so dude, that's awesome. Me and Del he's like 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:07.760 an intimidating looking cat. 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:08.800 That's what we got. 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:10.400 I'll get my sister to come on here and try 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.960 to like fish away. And have you been telling me 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.919 for like three years you're trying to put us together? 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:16.640 I will. 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:19.280 To me is like I got to get you and 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.280 my sister together. Man, I play the I play the 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:22.200 best security guard. 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.680 Yeah, just get like, yeah, be fine. 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.560 Like I've always wanted to be in like a like 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.720 a roadhouse remake, dude, like a bar. 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:30.919 Scene, and. 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.919 Yeah, do you ask to be to do that stuff? 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.720 My brother's I've never done it. Yeah, my brother played 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.160 a bouncer actually, I think he was in p S. 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:39.680 I Love You. 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.680 And then my younger one like he'll play an extra 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.440 like he's done this and he's played like an extra 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.560 like the crowd oh yeah, or like he tries to 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.680 get like the cool stuff where he's like the guy 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.000 that's like kicking the door in it or something like that. 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.280 Yeah you can't see, and your sister's just like yeah, 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.280 all right, God Yeah. 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.360 She just kind of like you gotta imagine that your 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.760 circles going to like, so hey man, you know. 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:09.400 Spot being a producer. You gotta be like you're producing. 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:11.840 Yeah, I just want to be an extra and like 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:13.880 it's just a ridiculous like bar fight scene or something. 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:15.960 Dude, that'd be so awesome. We go have a great 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.200 season this year and then we catch you in Sacario three. 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:20.080 If you were in it. 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:23.760 The way you're going right now, you'd be the best. No, 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.560 it'd be like you she se. 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:30.040 Fucking Arthur's see just now he's in movies and now 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:30.600 he's in movies. 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:31.680 You're like, what can't you do? 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.600 Has a banger year and now he's in movies. 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.240 Yeah, killing it's like a bottle over the head, you know, 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.520 I've always want to do that, Like you got to 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:38.400 retake that one. 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.920 Like I know, well if you they if you can 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.400 get the bottom of that bottle cut out, it breaks 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.480 super easy. Someone showed me that at a party one time. 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.440 They like filled it up halfway with water and you 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.440 hold like the neck of the bottle and you like 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:52.840 hit it real hard on the top and it like 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.440 just pops off the bottom of the bottle and then 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.080 you crack it over somebody's head doesn't hurt at all. 0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.920 We're gonna try it. We'll go, we'll figure it out, 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.280 just like a video doing it right now, trying to 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:02.800 do it right now. 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.280 I'm sure you can find a volunteer. 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.360 Oh, dude, we got a couple back there that might 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.600 take a bottle. Dude, who knows Matt'll cut his dick 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.160 off for a Super Bowl Dude, we can probably get 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.400 him to hit a bottle over his head. We can 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.280 probably figure that out. That's why, dude, that's why. Like, 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.680 that's one thing that I think I'm definitely interested in 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.200 is going and kind of throwing my hat in the 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.920 ring in the whole LA scene. But that stuff's intimidating, 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.160 and also it's so time consuming. Like guys like Dain 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.440 the Rock Johnson, how does he have a family, Like. 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.360 He's always doing Kevin Hart, those guys like they're just 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.280 they're always always doing something. 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.760 Make you feel lazy, I tell you, yeah, it's you 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.440 gotta get the point where you're like Tom Hanks, where 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:42.920 like you come out for the big hitters and then 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.840 Nick he disappears for a while and comes back and disappears. 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.720 He doesn't do like Woody and yeah, just does Woody 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.560 and goes out of there. Yeah, you got those movies 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.560 like Castaway or like The Revenant where you're it's you're 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.400 just kind of like acting by yourself the whole movie. 0:30:58.000 --> 0:30:58.480 Really talented. 0:30:58.520 --> 0:30:59.520 You gotta be really talented. 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.040 I am legends Will Smith. 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:05.640 Yeah, that's impressive. Will Smith is unbelievable. Yeah, Will Smith 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.640 or Denzel Washington. Who's a better actor? 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.200 I think Denzel I think is the best. 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.080 Lot. I got a lot of people that say Will Smith, 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.400 but I'll tell you I'll have a little argument there. 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.160 Will Smith is good at everything. He can do comedy, 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.920 he can do serious, he can do everything in between. 0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.719 Denzel is Denzel and everything. What was he not? 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:28.360 What was he not? 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:29.360 Juice? Have you seen? 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.200 Have you seen John Q? 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.040 That movie made me cry, Dude, I lost my mind. 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:41.080 That's when his son had a heart heart too big tasty, hostage. 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:42.760 Mind pulling out the Denzel Washington movies. 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:48.080 You're curious because I'm thinking in my head training Neeson, 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.000 who's like the same guy and everyone. 0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.040 Bill Ted's excellent Adventure, Like he was definitely a different 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.400 character there, But you got to see them. You have 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.640 seen that or Oh yeah, a great. 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:05.680 Movie, great one equalizer. Remember the Titans, John Q. Yeah, 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:06.520 deja vu. 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.320 He's always got a moment where he gets like worked 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:10.440 up and some like passionate. 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.200 Yeah, and I love it, dude, I mean yeah, American gangster. 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.840 Yeah, that was a good one. It could have been 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:18.360 a lot better. 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:19.960 When he goes and takes the money from the dude 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:21.760 in the street, like, hey, you owe me money, what 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.400 you gonna forget his name? He's like, what you're gonna do? 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:25.840 And you gon shoot me right here in the street, 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.400 puts a gun up to his head. What's you gonna do, Frank, 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.200 you gonna shoot me right here in front all these people? 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.000 Huh. That was a good little dead dude. 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:35.960 What do we got here? 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.200 You could definitely make an argument that he's he's the 0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.160 depth that Will Smith I give you that. 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:44.880 I remember, I didn't see fence. 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:46.800 That was like a Broadway It's a play. Yeah, it's 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.400 it's a it's a play. It's like one. It's like 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.440 in the backyard, and he's phenomenal. And he plays this 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:59.080 like like really mean, hateful father and it's it's incredible. 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.440 He does a good job. He won a Tony for that. 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.680 Didn't he or he had something he he want something. 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.560 Magnificent seven was a good movie. 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.160 You mind clicking on the Book of Eli. 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.160 That was a solid kind of acted by alone in 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:11.000 that one, and it had. 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.120 Me lakuon Is in it. Who I'm a big fan of. Dude. 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.720 That's probably my Hollywood crush. 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.840 My sister worked on that one, which was my brother. Yeah, 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:19.600 my brother was an extra. 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.360 She just got no booty though. Man, we're on a 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.480 hot spot busting. Dude, you're on a hotspot. 0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.320 What do you think of all this stuff? I love? 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.320 I was gonna say, what do you think of the podcast? Man? 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:32.880 I think you talking about fear of failure and stuff. 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.400 It's also getting nervous any time we're just on here 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:36.120 that we're doing this thing. 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.520 There's definitely there's definitely a thing where you're like, ship, dude, 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:39.640 are we are we good enough? 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:39.760 Like? 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.680 Are we doing this? People actually didn't give a ship 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:42.400 what we're talking about? 0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:42.680 Right? 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.360 You kind of put yourself out there like that's another 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.120 the whole fear of failure ship that we were talking. 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:47.840 About it, But it's original. 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.800 It's all that you walk in here and I met, 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.720 I pulled up. I was like, either I'm in the 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.920 wrong place. It's gonna be a really weird night for me. 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.800 It's gonna be awesome, you know. And then like when 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.080 I saw the light on, I was like, all right, 0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:58.680 I'm in the right place. 0:33:58.720 --> 0:33:59.920 It's all the boys right there. 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:01.520 But I mean it could have been like, yeah, you 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.719 got the tarps in the back of the heat. 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.120 It's like I've seen from True Detective. 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.360 Like yeah, Dirty Mic and the boys from the other guys, Yeah, 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:09.960 we will have sex in your car. 0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.840 Thanks for the sex shack and the boys love dirty. 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.080 What is all this stuff right here? I never knew existed. 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.120 There was a guy painting something when try not to 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.200 hit his thing, he had like. 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.160 It's a dude, it's a crazy setup in here. They 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.719 had like cardboard films is in here. Yeah, and they 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.640 do like they do all the production stuff. They got 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.000 like a welding they like a welding classes. They have 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.239 a workshop back there. Coffee acts throwing. There's a coffee shop, dude. 0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:35.440 There's people that sell art. 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:36.640 That's what I saw. 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.360 There's like a Neon sign, dude of a banana. It's like, 0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.200 but it looks real as hell, is it. It's so 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:44.920 it was like what eighteen hundred bucks. 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.279 Yeah, dude, and now there's a you know, the Flaming. 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.319 And make that, make that bigger so you can see it. 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.080 You ever heard of the Flaming Lips. The Flaming Lips, Yeah. 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:55.359 The band. 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.759 No, I mean you should listen to them. But they 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.920 paid ten grand to get that. It's the lead singer's artwork. 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:02.960 They pay ten grand to get it put here, and 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:03.759 it's fantastic. 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.480 Ten this nice fun out of here. Man trying to 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.080 find I was trying. 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.040 To see who did this movie? 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:10.760 If you if you don't mind, because I can't remember 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.560 what part where my sister was working, because she definitely 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:14.319 worked on this one. 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.560 Oh a mental fire, not a man on fire? Was 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:17.680 book at you? 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:18.839 I'm looking at the wrong one. 0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.880 It's all over the place with this thing he work in. 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:24.920 We can figure out whatever. 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:26.200 A little bit of adversity. 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.520 Yeah, you know of the artwork? 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.319 Have you been hit up now as you're getting older, 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.120 If you had to buy any art for your house, 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:34.799 that's a whole different that's a whole different part. 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.360 You feel that big deal. Baby, You're gonna. 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:37.960 Get some differ person. 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.400 But this is just like you're talking about growing like older, 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.360 like stuff I never thought about where I feel like 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:43.560 I get fleeced on artwork. 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.480 You think soli art gets you. 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:50.399 Well, I'm not like I I'm very like artistic. No, 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:50.880 I'm not. 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.920 My wife is, and you know, so I'll go with 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.120 her to like look at artwork. So when you get 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:57.360 your house, it's like, oh, we need to get it 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:58.960 at artwork. And like every year it's like you're out 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.160 a piece and it's like I pushed this more. We're 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.719 gonna get it. We need this beast like all right, 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.359 well what is it worth? And you're like, oh my god, yeah, 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:06.920 that's what the value is. 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:08.200 I don't know if you've had to if that's hit 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:08.960 one of you guys. 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.399 I haven't had I haven't had a lot of art. 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.720 But I did have a situation. We did a charity 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.680 event for Home Street Home. It was me and Thomas Rhett. 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.000 We put on this this charity event for this thing 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.200 for people, the homeless people in Nashville and stuff like that, 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.680 which it was awesome. But there was this girl there 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.320 and I gotta figure out her name. I can probably 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.759 look it up, thank you, Sidney Clausa. She is incredible. 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.799 So she was there and uh, while people like were 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.520 just hanging out. It was less than an hour. She 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.279 did a portrait of Clint Eastwood and in one of 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.480 his movies. I don't know which movie specifically it was, 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.279 because he's got a lot of Western movies, but he's 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.839 got the cowboy hat on everything and it looks incredible 0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.320 and uh like that that is cool stuff to me. 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.799 When I see two eggs pushed against each other and 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.759 people are sitting there with a glass of wine, They're like, 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.239 to me, this is life because you have to lean 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:01.200 on each other for help. 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.040 I crack and the egg nversity. 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.560 This this this art is sexual and violent. Like I 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.520 don't I don't get it, but dude, I saw that 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.000 and we bid on it and ended up doing like 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.319 it was like twenty thousand dollars. Yeah, raised, we raised. 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.320 We ended up raising sixty because she do it so fast. 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:19.840 Me. 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.040 It was me, Thomas Rhet and Jason on Dean and 0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.480 we were we were like all the three of us 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.799 betting on it or whatever, bidding on it. And Rett 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:30.680 like leans over and he's like like if we can 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.239 just get like hurt him, make two more, like we 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.600 can get this off for twenty yeah, and like we 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.279 like asked her if she said she totally do it. 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.080 So we ended up spent twenty thousand dollars on a portrait, 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.399 which is ridiculous. But it's dude, it's awesome and she's 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.800 so talented it's crazy. 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:46.040 Man. 0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.480 I mean, but like, what is art? You know, it's 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:55.759 all it's all a super relative Sydney Clausen. Yeah, she's incredible, man. 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.600 She she does a lot of good work. But what 0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.080 have you been snaked into? I've had to go a 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.960 couple of Jackson Pollocks or what you got going on? 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.479 I couldn't even tell you the nudies in the house. 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:09.400 No, I don't have that Banksy running around there. Dude, 0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.600 that Banksy photo of the dudes from Pulp Fiction holding 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.560 the bananas. It's a great that's a great little deal there. 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.719 I loved banks dude. I think the coolest thing about 0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.520 banks is no one knows who he is. Yeah, he's 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:21.800 like under the wraps all the time. 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:22.400 Yeah. 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.560 No, it's a I've gone to those art shows and 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.480 I've tried, like you know, it's like, hey, I'm trying 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.400 to appreciate people's work, because people put a lot of 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.040 work it. But I have no idea what something's worth, 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:32.799 but that's not bad. And you look it's like, oh, 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.560 that's only one hundred dollars and I'm like that's awful. 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.040 It's like that's ten grand. 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.600 Like yeah, right, yeah, it's all it's all relative to 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.279 what you think is cool, right, Like, I see, I 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.759 don't know who's the guy that cut his ear off? 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.240 Oh to my band, go Mike Tyson. 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.480 I was at that fight. No, you weren't in Memphis, right. 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.000 You might want to FactCheck me, but I'm almost the 0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.239 pyramids a pyramid. 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.160 Yeah, he was there. Get the hell out of here, Lewis. 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.360 I remember I was in college in Memphis. 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.279 Tyson Holyfield too, because everybody thought like, Okay, Tyson will 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:10.960 get him this time. 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.040 He just bit his damn ear off. 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:15.839 Yeah. Tyson was a psychopath back in the day. 0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.760 If you watch that fight though, a back that's. 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.160 Two was in. One of them was in Memphis, wasn't it. 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.560 Well, Ship, you said you were there, so I'm sure 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:24.440 I was. 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.520 At a text fight, but I'm almost one't where. 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:28.080 He bit his ear off. 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.000 Yeah, it was in the pyramid, Lennox Lewis. 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.560 Yeah, and if you watch that, no, it's Holyfield. If 0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.000 you watch that fight Holyfields, like head budding him the 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.440 whole time. So I understand you. 0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:39.759 Would have bit the ship out of his ear to Jo, 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:40.799 I understand. 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.920 Why he was mad, man, I really, I really do. 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:43.320 Y know. 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.160 Mike Tyson was on Joe Rogan's podcast and it was 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.040 it was pretty He's got his own podcast too. 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.400 I know we need to get Mike tython on this one. 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.520 My fact check was wrong. I was at that Tyson, 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.920 the one in the pyramid with Lewis Lennox. 0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:58.840 Lewis Lewiss. Did he win that one? 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.719 Boy? Coach Coach Smith's got that CTE? 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.080 Maybe ct But I was in college and I don't 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:06.000 remember a lot of that fight. 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:06.799 To be honest with. 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:10.200 You, Yeah, the couple of beers. Man, that'll think all 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:10.720 the memories. 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.200 Just get hammer, just think like it's Tyson. Man, it's 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:14.479 not gonna last that long. Yeah. 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.840 Do you guys want to have a frank conversation about CTE. 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.000 I think that would be really interesting. You kind of 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.680 want to. There's not enough education to have like. 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.600 A yeah, there won't be no education. 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.799 Do we joke about it, and it's pure jokes, so 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:30.360 don't get too serious. 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.799 The one thing I will say about ct is I 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.399 had when I got knocked out in the Miami game. 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.160 I was meeting with doctors and they said, you know, 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.120 in the eighties and nineties, early two thousands, you'd get 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.000 hit and then and then you'd go back and you 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.000 get hit hit. It's kind of like an ankle, Like 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.080 you keep stacking those injuries on top of that ankle, 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.360 adventure gonna have a bum ankle. And so their their 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:55.319 claim was is that because where they're taking time for 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.000 things to heal now and taking care of stuff, that 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.600 it's not gonna be a huge issue for our generation 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.719 and and and in the future too that. But like 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.960 but as far as like evidence all that, I don't 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.560 have it. I have nothing for you. I just think. 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.600 I mean, that's as far as CT as I know. 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.000 Yeah, Like it's like if I'm forgetful around the house 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:17.799 or if I'm forgetful everywhere, because I am, I'm just like, 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.320 you know, babe, I got CT pure jokes. 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:21.799 Dude. 0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.920 I'll tell I'll tell Willi's story sometimes and he'll be like, yeah, 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.480 but I heard it. He'll he'll he'll walk away. See 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.400 he's a real thing. 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:30.279 He's a real thing. 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.640 It's a very sensitive subject and if you. 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.720 Said something, it could be headlined. 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.960 Oh. Absolutely. But man, so you went to you went 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:39.720 to North Carolina. 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.680 Did you have how many stuff? 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.120 How many how many offers did you have coming out 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.359 of high school? Oh? Hold on, I'll let that load 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:48.880 for a second. We'll go back to that a second. 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:54.320 Yeah, no, I end up having too late. And so 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.520 so when I grew probably going my junior year, I 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:57.719 was getting recruited by. 0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.359 When I was in high school in DC. So I'm 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.160 from Memphis. I end up going high school in DC, 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:03.640 and then I was. 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:08.279 Probably about six two ish, about two forty, so it 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.120 was a lot of those like Patriot Lee schools like 0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.600 recruiting me. And then I just ended up growing a 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.600 little bit by I answered more and then I was 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.759 like thirty pounds bigger. So by the end of it, 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.200 some of the bigger schools got on me. 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.120 And it was a strange recruitment because I got I 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.279 remember Carl Torbush, she was. 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.400 The head coach in Carolina, called me and offered me 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:25.879 the night before he got fired. He's like, I'm offering 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.440 a scholarship, but I may not have my job tomorrow. 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:28.640 I was like, thanks, Like. 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.160 I appreciate that appreciate that. 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:31.759 But the guy that was an old line coach named 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:35.440 Robbie Caldwell who had a who actually was at Vannerbilt, 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.760 was the head coach at Vannerbilt for years at Clemson. 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.920 Now Robbie got he got kept by I got named 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.920 John Bunning. Bunning was my college coach, so he was 0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:44.640 the reason I ended up going to R Carolina. I 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.239 wanted to go to Georgia Tech and Bill O'Brien was 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:52.280 recruiting at Georgia Tech wing tea no before that, Okay, yeah, 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.960 and uh, I actually went down to my official visit. 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.279 I was waiting for him to offer, and they was 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:57.759 like trying to get me a walk on. I was 0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.440 waiting waiting that's where I wanted to go, and they 0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.359 didn't offer me. So I was waiting in Carolina did 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.400 and then I end up calling Bill O'Brien. I was like, Hey, 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.040 I'm gonna go to North Carolina. I remember he like 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.759 wasn't too you know, happy, I'm like, never offered me. 0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:11.239 But small world. 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.840 Then you get back in this profession and the running 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:14.560 these people again. 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:18.799 Yeah, it's crazy how like things just shrink up as 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:20.880 the far the more you get into that kind of stuff. 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.359 Like I said, Tim Bruser, he's at North Carolina right now. Yeah, 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.239 I don't think he's not the head coach, but he's 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.200 he's a coach there, and he was the head coach 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.000 at Minnesota. My old man went to Minnesota and so 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.800 and he off he offered me a scholarship. And I 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.359 remember sitting in his office and he like calls over 0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.600 his uh like the compliance people, and he's like, hey, 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.399 what's the deal, Like, how do I offer this guy 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.440 a scholarship? Like am I allowed to right now? And 0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.000 I'm not sitting there like just kind of hanging out, 0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.480 just sitting at a desk. And they're like, well, technically 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.359 you have to wait till he leaves the premises. Blah 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.920 blah blah. He goes, listen, we're gonna offer you a 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:55.840 scholarship as soon as you walk out here. Okay. I 0:43:55.920 --> 0:44:00.600 was like, to we leave now. It was awake, small world, 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.520 small one. And the reason why, yeah, I was gonna 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.320 say the reason why that was a small world just 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.440 because that he was at practice last week and he 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.680 came over and gave me a bake handshake. We were 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:10.400 gonna get you. 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.359 Yeah, who's the head coach who did you play for 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:13.880 in North Carolina? 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.720 And John Bunning who had played in North Carolina. 0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.520 He was my linebacker coach at our senior when I 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:20.799 the NFL p a game. 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.080 Oh yeah, you know he was my linebacker coach. Yeah, 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:24.840 old school. 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.680 Though he played in the seventies a different areas about 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.239 the NFL. He had some wild stories. Yeah, by playing 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:30.480 the seventies wild. 0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.879 So you gotta Getruss Grimm on here sometimes. But you 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.759 and Russ, I'd love that Rus to selling to So yeah, 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.880 definitely put on like tell Sully. 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:40.399 Would that be fun? 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.320 Because I know his son Chad Grim he's at the 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:43.520 Redskins ud. 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.839 Russ is literally maybe the coolest coach of all time. 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.719 Yeah, he's an American icon. 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.879 If you think of like nineteen eighty six and Pittsburgh, 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:53.840 that's Russ Grim. 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:54.760 Yeah, that's awesome. 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.040 He was the coolest man. He was such a good dude. 0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.200 He tell you the same story three four times. He well, 0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.120 but he was. He was on top of it. 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:03.600 He's smart as hell. 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.040 He's so smart, man, He's so smart. He's such a 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:07.759 We play this game where he'd put up a word, 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.640 like a long word like superfluous and then you'd have 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.359 a minute to figure out all the words and then 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:14.920 you make you make fun of us because he'd be like, 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:16.279 oh man, you tell the same story all the time. 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.399 And he do that word game and he would kill everybody. Yeah, 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.359 like he'd beat Dennis, and you know, Dennis is mister 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.000 I want to be smart guy. You know what I'm saying. 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.040 He'd be that guy out there. Man. 0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.399 So Russ is so cool. I'll just say about Ross 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.160 because they're not very if you put who says back 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:31.080 he was. 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.319 He would never let you pay for anything. He was 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.120 the most giving person. He was a one man party. 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.640 And I mean that like the highest compliment. Like you 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.000 went and you wanted to go grab something to eat 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.480 with him, Like he'd gets so pissed at you if 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.080 you try to pay. That's like he wouldn't let you 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.719 do it. Yeah, yeah, there's he's I'm glad I got 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:50.200 to work with him. 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.040 Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad I know Russ. 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:56.640 Yeah, that's one thing I do when he when whenever 0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.319 he left the Titans, I was like, man, I just 0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.080 need it, give me a kind of a jersey. And 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.120 he's like, yeah, absolutely, I'll give you a jersey. The 0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:07.319 Dogs and then you know, we would buy a couple 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.560 a month or two, I'm buying. I was like, yeah, yo, Russ, 0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:11.520 let me get that jersey. Like I texted him. He's like, yeah, 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.080 you got it, man, some of your dress. 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:14.920 Yeah. 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.040 Three weeks go by. Yeah, I end up getting that 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:19.359 damn jersey though, I got it now. 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.560 Somebody told me that one of the d Linemen saw 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.080 him in the airport recently. Yeah, that'd be like the 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.719 four airport. Yeah, I mean, I'd be so fired up 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.000 if I saw him in an airport. That'd be one of 0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.080 the greatest like airport sightings, especially. 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.120 If you had like a two hour, three hour layover. Yeah, 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:40.200 man sitting there, dude, after games, him just hanging out 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.640 in the back of his car, just relaxing, Like those 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:43.920 are the coolest parts of the games. 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.000 Yeah, he's a different, different era. 0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:48.640 But the thing about Russ is when I worked for 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:52.319 the Redskins and and oh seven with Joe Gibbs and 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.360 Coach Gibbs had all those guys that been with them 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.160 in the eighties, and they would tell stories at night. 0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:58.040 It was awesome, you know, hearing the stories. 0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.440 About the Hogs and going against Lawrence Taylor, in the 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.839 NC East at that time, and they would talk about 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.719 Russ like in this they tell stories about Rus because 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.400 Rus is like everybody's got stories about Russ. Yeah, And 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.760 then I could worked with a guy named Donny Warren. 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.759 Donny Warren was tentley part of the Hogs. He was 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:14.719 there blocking tight end. 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:15.320 Yeah. 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.080 He was like the old Craig Stevens for them. For 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.480 the Hawks, he was just yeah, man's man. So Donnie 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.440 would tell me stories about Russ, and Russ was just 0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:23.279 he was a legend. 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.560 They had the five o'clock Club. They ever talked about 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:26.279 that in DC? 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:27.120 Uh? 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:27.520 No? 0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:27.680 Not. 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.799 The thing a shed And the way Donnie told me 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.640 was they had two different beers, Miller distributor and a 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.640 and anh Bush distributor, and they both thought they were 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.960 the official beer drinking the beer of the Hawks. So 0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.440 however they did it, so I assume it was Russ. 0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.920 And they've come in every other week. So on Tuesdays 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.640 they drop it off, the equipment guy put on ice 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.240 and after practice they'd go sit in the shed like Russ, 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:53.200 Donnie Warren, Jo Jakobe. They'd sit around, they'd have a 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:54.520 couple of beers before they went home. 0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:55.839 It's called the five o'clock Club. 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:56.720 I love that dude. 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.520 You knew Ko, right, Yeah? You know Ko? Yeah, Yeah, 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:00.880 he was my guy. 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.239 For really helped me out. 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.480 Man, he's with them, he's actually with the floor now 0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.480 he's yeah, he's with the packers. 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.919 He's with the packers, the floor man, one and done. 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.239 Yeah, got the head coaching job though. Man, you can't 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.600 can't get mad at that, dude. Ye yeah, yeah for 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.160 the packers too, Like how cool? How cool would that be? 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:19.920 That'd be wicked? 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.200 How much did you learn from coach or. 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.960 Yeah, it's like a lot of guys you mad a 0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.520 different experience and might have been in a similar system 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.319 for the whole time. He's been in the NFL. Yeah, 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:35.640 and uh, it was good. I enjoyed working with Matt. 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.839 He was like anybody. I mean, you spend so many 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:39.719 hours you get to know him. 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:40.600 That's a great person. 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:42.440 Yeah, and we talk about a lot of things, and 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.600 Matt would here he had strong opinions because he had 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:45.600 been in one system. 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.359 But he would definitely hear you out with Some guys 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:49.040 you work with are so. 0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:50.839 Stubborn and like they think that it's like the Ten 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.120 Commandments and that's that's what it is, and there's no 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.479 coming off right right, It's not that way. 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.279 Uh, he'll do well up in Green Bay. But yeah, 0:48:58.280 --> 0:48:59.279 I enjoyed working with him. 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.480 Well, there's that one week when we played the Skins 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.279 that I was in there clock with you guys. 0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:06.880 So he was definitely like he always asks questions. 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:10.120 Yeah, and you would see how much, like you know, Blaine, 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.359 all you guys are in there, I'm sitting there like 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.600 you know, defensive player, listening to all this terminology the 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.759 the offensive side and everything, and Matt's like going back 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.200 and forth, like, you know, do we like this here 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:19.799 to be like that there? 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:20.840 YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:24.400 But yeah, I assume it's it's probably nice, you know, 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:28.200 coaching with guys that listen and you know. 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.520 They're not you always a good person. We're completely different personalities, 0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:32.960 but as long as you know somebody is a. 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.000 Good, good person where they're coming from, and that makes 0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:36.200 things a lot easier when you're. 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:36.520 Working with them. 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:37.200 Yeah, for sure. 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.239 How uh you know, thinking about thinking about that week 0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.280 and the questions he would ask Blaine like comfort levels 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:44.000 of things. 0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:44.640 How. 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:52.120 How important is that you now being in oc that 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.320 that level of like you have your own ways of 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.920 growing and evolving and changing little, you know, little wrinkles 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:03.280 here and there. How important is that for that dialogue 0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.759 with Marcus sitting in the room, because I'm sitting there. 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:08.719 I'm sitting there watching Blaine write everything down right that 0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.040 you guys are all talking about. And then it would 0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.880 circle back around the Blane. Hey, Blaine, what do you 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.719 think of that call here and there? I assume you're 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.120 trying to gauge the comfort of your quarterback. 0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.440 Yeah, there's some of that. And then I think Matt 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:22.359 enjoyed Blaine. You know, Blaine had been in a lot 0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.719 of offenses because a lot of those quarterbacks are like 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.120 assistant coaches in so many systems, and if you get somebody, 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.480 Blaine was really smart and he could. He loved it, 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.319 you know, he would sit there and draw up stuff and. 0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:33.960 Love him talk to them. 0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:35.640 So it helps. 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.160 You definitely have to be on the same page as 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.160 the quarterback. But I also don't lose sight of Taylor's job, 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.400 like understanding his matchup for the center and the receivers, 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:45.719 like I try to look at it. And the thing 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:48.640 I think that hurts sometimes in coaching is some of guys, 0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:50.760 guys forget what the game feels like with the helmet. 0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.560 You know what I'm saying, Like you put stuff in 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.520 and you really want to see it from your perspective, 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.160 because all right, well here's Taylor's world on a play, 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.319 making sure that, like you don't want to lose sight 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.719 of there may be issues in certain plays, you know, 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.160 gonna be harder than others for certain people. But I 0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.399 try to look at every position, do the best I can. 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.399 I won't obviously be perfect, but I do. 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.759 And maybe it's because of my background, like with the 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:15.799 line sometimes. 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.279 Yeah, no, it's just like you realize sometimes you put 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:19.799 all this stuff in and some people are like, it's 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.200 not that hard, blah blah. I'm like, Okay, well, you're 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.960 sitting in a stance and you've got one of the 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:26.600 best in the world getting ready rush off the edge, 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:28.640 and we're asking to make three different decisions before this 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:30.680 and there's a snap count of play clock going. Yeah, 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.560 so it's and it's gonna be could be two or 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.719 three different things for him to have to do in 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:35.520 live action. 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:37.080 And live action. Yeah. Yeah, it's for me to say 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:38.640 that the clicker, That's what. 0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.560 I was gonna say. It's quiet like coaches. You know, 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:42.759 you sit there and you just watch cut ups, you 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.719 watch games. You watch it from a just film perspective 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.680 of getting the video guys to break it down. You're 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.960 sitting there in the quiet in the room, thinking and 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.959 scheming up everything, and then you get out there and yeah, 0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.080 what you were saying, trying to relate it to how 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:56.920 you used to see things and just seeing it from 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.120 all different perspective I think is important. 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.160 That's why you watch like live TV copies too. 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.280 Right, because live TV copies I didn't, I personally didn't 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:10.120 until this last year. The way vrabel would incorporate stuff. 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:11.440 It's like a lot of stuff kind of made more 0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.400 sense to me in that way. Not that we didn't 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.359 do it on like the Skins or and Surpassed, but 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:17.799 you get more of a feel for, I guess what's 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.480 going on the progression of a game, because you'll watch 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:21.600 it in a cut up, right, and you'll you know, 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.080 you'll make all of your opinions and corrections on like oh, 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.040 you should have done this and that, But when you 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.880 see it in a sequence with hearing stuff and the 0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.000 action going on the momentum of the game, you kind. 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.600 Of see it. I guess in a different light situationally. 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:33.360 Too, you do. 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.759 I mean, and there's great things you see on those 0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:39.000 all twenty two of the coaches films, and there's stuff 0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:40.200 you see on the TV copies. 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:41.719 Yeah, and there's stuff. You know. 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.560 It's the longer you're in it, the more you see 0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:46.400 a practice live too. It's like you go back and 0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.080 think about some of the like old high school coaches. 0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.960 Don't know your high school coaches were, but like where 0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.080 my high school is two coaches in the last six years, 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:54.239 and the guy that's that was. 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:56.239 Retired had been there forever, like yeah, he would say 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:57.759 something to play. I'm like, how do you see all that? 0:52:58.480 --> 0:52:59.839 I can barely see one thing happen. 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.000 No, it helps, but I try to never to lose 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.120 sight of that, like don't forget what it looked like 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:08.920 in a face mask. 0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:15.399 Yeah, which that's important, That's really important. I mean, yeah, 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.960 do you gotta may be happy? 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:19.160 Ye. 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:23.920 That made me happy because it's it's like it is. 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:25.880 It is hard when you have people telling you just 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:27.520 it's that easy, just do this, just do that, and 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:31.520 you're like, dude, like you know, yeah, I always have 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:33.520 confidence of what I can do in a game, like 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.359 for sure, you gotta have confidence, but like sometimes you, dude, 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:39.560 like shit gets hard. You know what I'm saying, if if, 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.400 sometimes all a player needs needs is a coach to 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.640 acknowledge it and say, hey, look, I know we're asking 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.839 you to do a lot here, Yes, we gotta lean 0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:49.520 on you. We gotta lean on you this week for 0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.560 the X, Y and Z. And then you get it 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.680 in your head you're like, dude, you take a little personally, 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.160 all right, I gotta i gotta put the boys on 0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:57.360 my back. You know what I'm saying. It's not that serious, 0:53:57.880 --> 0:53:59.319 but in your head you're like, I gotta I'm, I'm, 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.240 I'm I'm the game this week. 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.840 Right, But it's just your mindset. It shifts your mindset 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:05.520 from like man, they'll just don't get it, to when 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:07.720 they acknowledge it, you just see it from a different aspect. 0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:09.479 Okay, they get it. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.480 Because it'd be like, you know, with coach Tye, he 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:15.000 played in the league, uh with at linebacker. So we'd 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.440 go over and there'd be situations last year and you know, 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.160 the constance of the room would be like coach Tye, 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.200 like you kind of repeat it, and then he would 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.160 hear it and then hear it from the player perspective, 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.839 and then he would shift to like, oh, I mean yeah, 0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:28.319 that that. 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:30.200 Does make sense. Like it'd be like, you know, coach Tye, 0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:31.920 like you used to play. 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.080 Not that long ago, Like yeah, he's seeing doing this 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.839 and that and trying to see this. He'd be like, yeah, yeah, 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:38.759 scrap that. Let me talk to you know whoever, and 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:40.640 then we'll come back and then they make a transition. 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:42.280 So that kind of stuff's important. 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.960 It is, and and it's everybody's perspectives are different. And 0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.680 some guys that there have been great players and they 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.280 don't relate as coaches, and you see it in different 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:52.440 different sports. They just assume this guy's the greatest play 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:53.839 in the world. He'd be a coach or vice versa. 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.560 Guys never played be an awesome coach, or he'd be terrible. 0:54:56.600 --> 0:55:00.400 Like I think I know the the trending words like 0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.879 emotional intelligence, but obviously ty has it, like yeah, and 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.520 it just goes like you can see things, and that's 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:07.920 what you can see people, and any guy I think 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.319 goes to people's personality to try to figure things out, 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.680 where some people they're so like hardheaded or fixed. The 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:15.799 one that does always makes my skin crawl is when 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:19.440 you get some of these uh little quarterback guys and like, 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:21.560 this guy's soft, he's so soft. I'm like and I 0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.279 rolled my eyes, like I would love to see you 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.520 getting a getting a stance come across on one of 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.160 those swift blocks. See how soft you look like you 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.520 may they may cry like you know what I'm saying. 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:33.799 Like that gets my skin crawling when the guy's like 0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:36.080 and sadly that I've seen it at every level. 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:36.880 I've seen that happen. 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:40.239 You know, those sift blocks are nothing to fuck with. 0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:40.680 Man. 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.040 That stuff that's hard. That's a hard asset to do. 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:44.160 That. 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:46.920 You go sift on an inside zone, sift on an 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.520 outside zone. Then you go sift on like a on 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.120 like a quarterback, like a play action pass right, and 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.520 you're one on one with the defensive end. 0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:56.680 Yeah, the pass rusher, the pass rusher. 0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:58.320 Dude, I would hate to be a tight end of 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.279 those things. But that's I mean, that's that's what football is. 0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:04.000 Like every place, someone's a harder job than the others. 0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:06.680 From being a linebacker, it's like, hey, here you are 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.080 one on one. Here's Adrian Peterson. 0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.799 Like, yeah, he wrap him up. Yeah, third down you 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:13.880 were on an island with Dion Lewis. 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.759 Yeah, somebody's gonna have a hard job and yeah, and 0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:18.000 that's a good part of the game. I think when 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.759 everybody gets involved in and like you know, you know that, 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:22.759 like but I don't lose sight of it, like I 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.440 would never like this, wouldn't do that like say, oh, 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.360 this guy's soft, like you're not the NFL and the 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:29.160 guy is gonna. 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:29.600 Be no question. 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.719 Yeah, And sadly, I've heard people say that for and 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:33.680 it makes my skin crawl, like. 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.759 Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good that you have that 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:39.120 when you were you were so you've been with this 0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:40.280 is is this your third year. 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:40.680 With the Titans. 0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.600 No, this is two thousand and eleven, the ninth, ninth the. 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:49.359 Ko of Knesse. I always tell KO I was trying 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:53.000 to like match his record's record. Well, if I go, 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:54.759 this is kirk Aalavadatti. 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:56.919 He actually looks like if you if he they if 0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.439 we said Kirkalvadadi was his father, he would make sense. 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.200 He's person here. 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:05.480 But is he handsome? 0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:07.920 You know it looks like his. 0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:09.560 Father, I'd say if if he's saying he looks like me, 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:10.480 he's gotta be really handsome. 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.880 I guess he's got a harry body, a lot of 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:15.440 a lot of test. 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.200 No, but he he got hired I believe by North Turner. 0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:24.000 So go back like the Redskins two thousand Redskins. So 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.720 then Marty Schottenheimer came in for a year, Yeah, two 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:30.840 thousand and one. Then they hired Steve spur So he 0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:36.200 was Steve Spurger, then Joe Gibbs, then Shanahan, and then 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.320 he came back with Jay Grutins six. So he's got 0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:40.680 to have the record. And I may be missing like 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:42.840 an interim coach there. I think, you know, if he 0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:45.280 may count Terry Bisky's like interim games. At the end 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:50.720 of two thousand, Jim orn got I can't play. I 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.760 forgot Jim's orange. I worked for Jim's. That was bad 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:53.440 oversight by me. 0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:55.680 Yeah, well I apologize in three and nine. 0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:57.720 No, I don't you should you shouldn't you should have 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:58.439 done that? Do your homework. 0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:00.439 I know I should have done my homework way better. 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.360 When when you when you're talking about putting yourself in 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.040 other people's shoes, like going back from having that like uh, 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:07.840 just kind of being like a quality control guy or 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:09.480 whatever your your job was when you got here in 0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:12.360 twenty eleven. Are you nicer to those guys now? Because 0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.400 I've seen coaches that have gone through the rings just 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:20.240 like everybody else and their dicks. Yeah, that was college. 0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:20.680 Everything, guys. 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.240 Yeah, college football. Gosh, man, depending on some of these 0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.800 places you get. I mean it sometimes I felt like 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:30.120 working in college was like this is making me an asshole. Yeah, 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:33.160 you know, just the environments, like depending on where you 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:35.680 are and just all I get it all depends you 0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:37.560 work with. Yeah, it goes back to we kind of 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:39.280 talked about earlier, like the perspective of whe where you 0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:41.840 guys are like like Luke and Chandler, Like, I know 0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:44.360 how harder jobs are, So no, I would never do that. 0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:46.800 Like if I ever did that, I feel like the biggest. 0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:47.320 I don't feel like you have that. 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.480 It just be yourself. It's just the same thing. 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:51.760 It's like you don't think you're sweet and awesome because 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:53.360 you get a new job, Like I don't. 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.000 I don't view it that way, like, oh, wow, arrived 0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:58.040 this title. 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.400 There's got to be something hard about like not kind 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:03.920 of feeling yourself a little bit like being like you know, 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.280 I went from that on the same team to being 0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:06.959 the office sport. 0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:08.800 Later I didn't Yeah, I should have done, und I 0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:09.800 did not know. 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:13.760 Are you going to bring back team take off with 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:14.360 the footballs? 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:21.160 This guy about broke my ribs. That was the worst 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.959 job I've had all the job. That was the worst 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:27.400 job because we do the team take off and these 0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:29.160 guys run the ball and then it would be like 0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:32.000 just boom one rip shot. After I felt like I 0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:33.680 was training for like boxing, like sorry, I need to 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.000 work my abs, like go to home and get the medicine. 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:37.280 People have your. 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:41.160 Kids and rocking for team team takeoff is like you 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:43.720 line up on the twenty five yard line and then 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:45.560 they'd snap the ball and you run whatever it is 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:47.919 on air and then somebody would hold a football up 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:51.040 like or was one of those guys at one point, 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.240 and then the whole job was everyone has to run 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:55.600 to where the football is and that's like that was 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.480 us finish it and I, dude, I would try to 0:59:58.560 --> 0:59:59.800 beat the ship out of art. 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:01.800 I tried to, and I tried to warn Luke when 1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:03.160 he took that job over. So when I became a 1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:04.720 tight end coach, I say, hey, man, just get ready. 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:06.680 Yeah, He's like what are you talking about? I think 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:08.160 you got him. He may have got him like the 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:08.920 first or second day. 1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:10.520 Yeah, I got him in the ribs one time. 1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:13.040 And he was so like he was so pissed and 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:14.560 he was like he's like now I know what you're 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:14.960 talking about. 1:00:15.000 --> 1:00:16.560 Him like, yeah, that's not the that's not the best 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.040 job to have because because everybody does team take off different. 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:20.680 But Mike wanted to be like go to the ball 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.400 and then like you guys went to the ball and 1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:22.960 it was like and. 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:26.200 Some yeah, yeah, no, it was hey, mate made a 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:26.760 better person. 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:27.960 Yeah, so you. 1:00:30.120 --> 1:00:32.400 Took some shots. I literally think I tried to throw 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:33.640 you down by your throat one time. 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:37.200 Taylor's literally just flashing back to trying to yeah, because 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:37.840 I tried to get that. 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:39.840 Ball out dude, But I don't think you ever fumbled once. 1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:42.000 No, held him to the ball. Something else got me 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:42.480 pretty good. 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:46.320 I think, like, no, whatn't all It was like Byron Bell, 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.920 somebody that had that strength that like you know, just 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:50.960 turned it on when you didn't expect it. And I 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:52.720 think one time, like he got geeked up and I. 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:56.840 Was like, god, mighty thanks thanks, Yeah Byron Bell. Then 1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:57.640 he was strong. 1:00:57.960 --> 1:00:59.080 He was strong for you guys. 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.600 Didn't realize how strong he was until like probably hit 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:03.560 you like no doubt, like every once in a while, 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:05.000 like didn't want to bring it, and when he brought it, 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:06.040 you're like, God, it's. 1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:07.320 Like yeaheah for sure. 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:12.000 So you were you were going from like a position 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:17.120 coach to coach leafloor moves on the OC job is open? 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:20.400 Are you like what what is going on? 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:22.480 And this is just you personally, like what goes on 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:24.240 in your mind, like when that spot opens up and 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:26.960 you're like you're getting your stuff together, you're about to approach, 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:30.480 Like I'm I'm really curious like the nerves or like 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:34.960 the feeling you might have when you're trying to get getting. 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:35.160 The job there. 1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:39.120 Sorry, but yeah, what you're asking is when I had 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:43.040 talked to the Rabel last year during the transition, like 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:45.280 he asked me what my long term goals and so 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:46.960 I was like I'm just gonna tell him, like I 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:48.400 felt like I had nothing to lose. 1:01:48.240 --> 1:01:50.840 Like here we are. You know that that was such 1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:52.240 a strange ending to the season. 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:54.760 You know, you go from the playoffs and then you know, 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:58.000 things happen quick and then next thing I know, i'mber 1:01:58.040 --> 1:01:59.880 Craig Ackerman and I are driving down the Cener Bowl. 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.000 Were like, we gotta go interview with him at a hotel. 1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:03.440 I had no idea what to expect, you know, so 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:05.200 you're trying to do your homework on Verrable. I knew 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:07.480 people had worked with him down in Houston, and so 1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:08.120 I'm like, all right. 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:10.840 Here's what I gotta get ready for. Here's what I'm man. 1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:13.080 And then like one of the first questions he asked me, 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:14.560 he was like, what do you want to do long term? 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:17.880 And I said, eventually, hopefully get to where you do 1:02:18.080 --> 1:02:21.040 or where you're sitting right now. But in order to 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:22.400 do that, I understand, I got to be a really 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:24.800 good tight end coach, and then if I get the opportunity, 1:02:24.800 --> 1:02:27.120 I want to be a really good offensive coordinator. So 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.040 at least I had brought it up to him and 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:31.000 then we had talked about it, and then you know what, 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:32.800 I don't even know Matt thought he was going to 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:34.560 get that Green Bay job. It happened so quick, like 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:38.320 he prepared is this butt off for that job, and 1:02:38.360 --> 1:02:40.440 then he goes in that interview for a couple days later, 1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:43.480 and then he calls me that Monday morning and like, well, 1:02:43.480 --> 1:02:45.640 how to go He's like well, He's like, well, I'm 1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:47.480 waiting on a call from Aaron Rodgers. I was like, Matt, 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:48.360 probably went pretty well. 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:50.040 Then they're getting Aaron Rodgers. 1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:52.200 To call you, Like, it's probably going pretty well. So 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:54.160 then it happens. It happens quick. It happened in a 1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:56.840 couple of hours, I believe, right. So I'm like setting myself. 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:58.320 I was like, well, and part of me was like, 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.200 you know you're going through that, Like do you make sure. 1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:03.800 You bring it up or you just wait around? 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:05.920 So I just went in the office next morning to 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:08.280 try to catch Rabel. So I just sat there Matt 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.240 was cleaning stuff out, and then I ended up catching Rabel. 1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:12.040 And I was like, hey, can I talk to you 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:12.640 for five minutes? 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:17.320 Hold? How was that watching Matt like clean out his 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:20.160 office after one year? Was there kind of like a 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:22.640 vibe like, man, get the fucking guy. You know what 1:03:22.640 --> 1:03:24.880 I'm saying, because I'm not saying our coaches are like 1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:27.160 that at all. I'm saying like, you know, you're with 1:03:27.240 --> 1:03:28.720 us for a year, and he's like he's kind of leaving. 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:30.360 And I love I love Matt, and I like if 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:31.760 you get a head coach, you know, you gotta go, 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:33.720 like there's a business, you got to go do your thing. 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.080 But like when you go to clear your stuff out, 1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:38.600 you haven't been fired. You're just like, I'm gonna go 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:39.800 take a different job. 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:40.120 You see. 1:03:40.160 --> 1:03:43.720 You're just like, yeah, It's like it's like when Farva 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:46.160 went to there went to the police and super Troopers. 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:49.720 I love, he's like Team Ramrod, right, guys and everyone 1:03:49.920 --> 1:03:52.240 like circling him up and stuff like that. That's how I 1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:52.880 see it. Then. 1:03:53.040 --> 1:03:56.680 Yeah, well in that situation, I guess you're just like 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.680 you're happy that like Jeb is not waiting outside his door, 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:01.600 like yeah, you know, like where it's. 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:02.240 Like bad news. 1:04:02.760 --> 1:04:04.400 So yeah, it was definitely a little strange for Matt 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:08.920 because Matt's God, Matt's been in He had gone to 1:04:09.040 --> 1:04:12.280 Atlanta to LA and then it's he had an issue 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:14.400 with his house. I think it flooded, and then he 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:15.880 had to move out of that house. So he was 1:04:15.880 --> 1:04:18.520 at in LA and then they move, you know, to Nashville, 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:19.960 and now he's going to Green Bay. So that's a 1:04:20.000 --> 1:04:21.880 lot of move I mean that stuff has happened quick 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:25.080 for him. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was a little surreal, 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:26.720 and I think Matt it was like it was starting 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:28.800 to hit him like, wow, I can go on to 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:32.720 Green Bay, but it was nobody else was there, but 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:33.840 it yeah, it was. 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:35.880 It was cool for him. I was very happy for him. 1:04:35.960 --> 1:04:37.720 It's so different than like in free agency, like I've 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:39.920 never like you want to get guys back, but the 1:04:40.000 --> 1:04:41.760 nature of the game is like if somebody's gonna pay 1:04:41.880 --> 1:04:43.680 a lot of money, you can never be. 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:45.800 Resentful because like, good for you. 1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:47.320 You only got a certain amount of time to make 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:49.040 money as a as a football player. 1:04:49.120 --> 1:04:52.000 So I think the difference between like the free agency 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:54.720 thing and the coaches thing is like the coach is leaving, 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:58.480 that's an individual, one one person going Wait. When it's freezency, 1:04:58.480 --> 1:04:59.720 it's like, okay, this, let's say that you don't make 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:02.800 the play for season ends January second, like all fifty 1:05:02.840 --> 1:05:04.480 three dudes like, hey man, good luck with everything. We'll 1:05:04.480 --> 1:05:06.760 see later. Like everyone's kind of leaving, like we're all 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:09.920 gonna leave together when everyone packs your stuff up, and 1:05:09.960 --> 1:05:12.360 there's like probably a dozen or so guys that are 1:05:12.360 --> 1:05:16.160 either contracts are expiring or whatever, and so it's kind 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:17.760 of like a collective like, hey, we're all going together. 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:20.080 But when you're like that one coach, it's like putting 1:05:20.320 --> 1:05:22.720 like the shoes and like all his ship in a box, 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:26.280 like all right, guys, like good luck with your season. 1:05:26.440 --> 1:05:28.240 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:30.840 I think they probably all understand, like oh totally. They 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:34.400 are sitting in the sitting in the office like hey man, thanks, 1:05:34.480 --> 1:05:36.840 man up, I want that job. Yeah yeah, I love that. 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:39.120 Are you like nervous when you're sitting there? 1:05:39.600 --> 1:05:40.720 Yeah? So sorry, yeah you were. 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:43.920 You were waiting for Rabel My bad. I just like 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:45.520 just figured to go one or two ways. 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:47.600 You tell me. No, it's like the same thing like 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:48.520 when you're trying. 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:51.160 To put yourself out there, like all right, well, and 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:53.640 I you know, who knows what his real thought process? 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:55.320 I mean, Rape does a great job. You think he 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:58.720 keeps things close to the vest. And I was just saying, like, 1:05:58.800 --> 1:05:59.920 all right, what's the worst you gonna tell me? 1:06:00.120 --> 1:06:03.520 Like right, too bad? Get lost? Like so I was like, 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:04.720 all right, I'll just take my shot. 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:07.840 And so we sat and talked and then he said 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:10.000 he get back to me, and I just and at 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:11.480 that point I was like, I'm not gonna be the 1:06:11.520 --> 1:06:13.880 guy that's like because some people the time people do 1:06:13.920 --> 1:06:15.680 and then they start getting desperate and you're trying to 1:06:15.720 --> 1:06:17.800 like get people to call for you or whatever. 1:06:17.880 --> 1:06:19.760 And I just kind of left alone and knew he 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:21.440 you know, when he wanted to talk to me. 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:23.160 He talked to me, and I just left it at 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:25.120 that and I actually went out and uh, because we 1:06:25.120 --> 1:06:27.240 were off, so like I didn't want to sit around 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:28.640 all day, so I actually went out on skiing. 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:30.040 So I was like, I'm gonna do something to occupy 1:06:30.080 --> 1:06:32.040 me all day. That's what I did. And it was 1:06:32.080 --> 1:06:33.720 like my phone and I did, I'll get on like 1:06:33.720 --> 1:06:37.680 a chair lift and like yeah, hey, okay, yeah. 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:39.720 Yet, well at least did you get pay someone calls 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:42.520 You're like, mom, wait on a call, can put it 1:06:42.560 --> 1:06:42.959 back down? 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:43.720 Yeah? Yeah. 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:45.800 So I did try to do something to occupy myself 1:06:45.840 --> 1:06:48.880 and it's different. And then after every season though, I 1:06:48.920 --> 1:06:51.040 always try to do something to get away, cause it's 1:06:51.080 --> 1:06:53.080 like you get locked in and it's like I've never 1:06:53.120 --> 1:06:53.880 been on submarine. 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:55.439 But like the analogy makes sense, like. 1:06:55.600 --> 1:06:58.640 We are close quarters from the end of July and 1:06:58.840 --> 1:07:00.960 it is like it goes back like college brought up 1:07:01.000 --> 1:07:04.000 like a lot of brothers sisters and have Some days 1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:07.040 are better than others, and some days you hate this person. 1:07:07.240 --> 1:07:09.160 You hate that person because you're in close quarters. But 1:07:09.200 --> 1:07:10.360 like at the end of it, like you grow so 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:13.919 close to these people, players and coaches, but when it ends, 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:16.520 it's such an abrupt end. That's such a strange day 1:07:16.560 --> 1:07:18.720 that the exit interview. 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:20.680 Day after the season, right, it is strange. 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:22.520 It's very strange for a lot of different reasons. 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:24.240 I can't imagine some of the stuff you guys are 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:26.800 thinking going through that as well. And then just all right, 1:07:26.880 --> 1:07:28.200 well you were in this thing and now. 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:29.120 It's it's over. 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:30.240 Yeah, we'll see in April. 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:32.280 Yeah, it's yeah, it's strange. 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:35.320 Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, hopefully. Well sorry, Juce, you you 1:07:35.320 --> 1:07:35.919 wanted a question. 1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:37.040 I was just gonna ask who else? 1:07:37.040 --> 1:07:37.240 Say? 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:39.840 I forgot who else they interviewed for those position? 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:40.960 Was it? Was it just you? 1:07:42.320 --> 1:07:44.120 I have no idea I remember to ask you kind 1:07:44.120 --> 1:07:45.120 of get put through the ringer. 1:07:45.160 --> 1:07:48.560 It's kind of the same thing that you'd have to ask. 1:07:48.600 --> 1:07:49.320 You probably just got. 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:51.240 The blinders on and you know, when you get your shot, 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:54.120 you're gonna take advantage of it. I mean, when thinking 1:07:54.120 --> 1:07:58.120 of Matt, like you know, packers Sean McVay happens, and 1:07:58.160 --> 1:07:59.480 I bring them up because I was with both of 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:02.040 them at the reds McVeigh goes off to interview for 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:05.040 the RAMS a couple of years ago, and everybody's thinking, 1:08:05.120 --> 1:08:07.240 you know, it's gonna be his first kind of wave 1:08:07.320 --> 1:08:09.440 of going through and interviewing, so he's gonna put himself 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:11.360 out there and start getting his name out there. And 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:13.400 I'm sitting there with the coach Phillips, the tight ends 1:08:13.400 --> 1:08:16.919 coach for the Redskins Way Till the Sun, Yeah, Wes Phillips, 1:08:17.080 --> 1:08:18.840 and he's like, man, I'm telling you, when Sean gets 1:08:18.840 --> 1:08:21.320 in the room with these guys, like he's they're gonna 1:08:21.360 --> 1:08:22.800 keep them there, He's not gonna leave, like he's that 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:25.400 you know, well versed. And then you know, Matt goes 1:08:25.439 --> 1:08:27.840 to Green Bay. I don't know if he was going 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:30.280 in the circuit to get ahead coaching of the year before, 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.320 but he goes to Green Bay and it's like, you 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:34.280 don't know what's going to happen, probably and I yes, 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:38.519 this that the other thing, and he becomes the hot candidate. Yeah, 1:08:38.560 --> 1:08:41.000 and it's kind of like for you, you know, was it 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:46.040 was it your first time going after like an OC position, first. 1:08:45.880 --> 1:08:46.760 Time to go after OC. 1:08:47.240 --> 1:08:50.559 Here's a random story, like I I tried to get 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:56.320 the Georgetown University head job in twenty fourteen, right and 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:58.760 I actually went on an interview for it, and I like, 1:08:58.840 --> 1:08:59.920 I was like I was just gonna take my shit. 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:02.559 Yeah yeah, yeah, same type of deal, and they brought 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:04.840 me up there. Obviously didn't get it, but at that 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:06.559 point I was just like I'd been in that QC 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:09.240 assistant role, and I was like why not, Like I 1:09:09.280 --> 1:09:11.280 had ties to the school because I had gone to 1:09:11.280 --> 1:09:14.160 the high school affiliated with it and knew somebody that 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:16.800 had known the ad put in a word, and like, 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:20.280 it's such a different world from like Michigan or Nebraska 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:22.400 or North Carolina. But I was like, why it's worth 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:25.800 a shot, Like I like DC and so that had 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:28.600 helped me at least going through it, get going through it. 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:30.040 But I had the same mindset, like I had a 1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:33.000 really good job, Like this was when Wizdom and that turnover. 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:34.160 So I was kind of waiting and I was like, 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:37.040 at least I I felt like I had something to 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:39.280 fall back onto. That was an awesome job in the NFL. 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:41.000 If I didn't get it, Like God, knows what would 1:09:41.040 --> 1:09:41.679 happen if I did. 1:09:41.880 --> 1:09:44.400 Yeah, So at least I had I had had some of. 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:46.599 Because that's interesting to me, going through like the first 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:48.519 experience of something and you're kind of like, all right, 1:09:48.720 --> 1:09:51.040 you know, drave he called me up. 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:52.439 I'm coming in like I'm about to. 1:09:53.040 --> 1:09:54.960 You're trying to do it the best of your ability, 1:09:55.000 --> 1:09:57.400 and you know, I don't know what experience happens before 1:09:57.439 --> 1:10:00.280 that compared to if they're asking questions. But you're you 1:10:00.320 --> 1:10:02.280 gotta be nervous as ship, you know what I mean. 1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:04.400 Yeah, you go through that, you got to, like the 1:10:04.479 --> 1:10:07.000 draft process, and you're nervous as ship all the time. 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:07.599 Yeah. 1:10:07.960 --> 1:10:10.439 Yeah, flying places, you gotta go talk to people. You 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:11.679 don't know what the hell people are into. 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:16.120 Hey, people ask the weirdest questions. Yeah, it's wild. 1:10:15.800 --> 1:10:18.040 Man, Like, like the draft is crazy because they're gonna 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:19.479 it's not like a regular nine to five job. They 1:10:19.479 --> 1:10:20.479 can ask you whatever they want. 1:10:20.800 --> 1:10:22.759 Yeah, and then you go on those visits. I'm sure people, 1:10:22.800 --> 1:10:23.720 how mean did you go on? 1:10:24.479 --> 1:10:26.280 Oh dude, I was in like sixteen visits. 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:29.080 It's crazy. So I never thought we were gonna get you. 1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:31.880 I had I had twenty said, like, dude, I remember 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:33.840 I thought it was Atlanta, right, I thought I was 1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:36.160 in Atlanta at six. Oh, I'm gonna burn that place 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:36.679 to the ground. 1:10:36.680 --> 1:10:37.080 Baby. 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:42.360 They took a swing man, but uh no, I honestly 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:43.960 I remember. I remember the day I was supposed to 1:10:44.000 --> 1:10:46.639 leave to go visit Tennessee and I called my agent. 1:10:46.680 --> 1:10:48.240 I'm like, dude, why would I Why would I go 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:51.320 to this like they have they they have Michael Ruse 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:53.439 who's a stud for the last ten years or going 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:56.040 into his tenth year, and they just they just signed 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.800 Michael one side. Yeah, I picked up blank side picked 1:10:58.840 --> 1:11:01.640 who's playing right, probably from playing my side? Yeah, did 1:11:01.640 --> 1:11:03.200 you guys see this movie? 1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:03.599 Get this guy? 1:11:03.840 --> 1:11:07.040 Get this guy? And he's like he's like he literally said, 1:11:07.080 --> 1:11:09.000 let me call some people and I'll call you back. 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:12.840 And then Patrick Collins, who's one of my agents, he 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:14.800 calls me back and he's like, you should go to 1:11:14.840 --> 1:11:18.160 that meeting. And I'm like, all right, dude, whatever. So 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:24.799 I fly out there Southwest See like fifteen. I actually 1:11:24.800 --> 1:11:26.800 I want to get into something after that. But I 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:30.479 remember going and hanging out with everybody, and everybody wanted 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:32.400 to know about my off the field issues. No one 1:11:32.439 --> 1:11:35.240 really gave a shit about football. So I went and 1:11:35.240 --> 1:11:37.559 did that. But yeah, man, I was all over the place, 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:41.240 and I was I really thought like Atlanta, Like it 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:44.840 was Monday before the draft, and Atlanta, they had a 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:47.280 flew a guy to my house and he's sitting there. 1:11:47.280 --> 1:11:48.400 He's like, well, what do you think about the draft? 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:49.960 Like how do you feel everything's going? When I was like, well, 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.080 you know, I'm just just anxious, excited to see where 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:52.599 I'm gonna go. 1:11:52.800 --> 1:11:53.000 You know. 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:55.080 He's like, do you you think go earlier late? And 1:11:55.080 --> 1:11:57.519 I was like, you know, politically, cards will. It doesn't 1:11:57.560 --> 1:11:58.680 matter where I go as long as I get a 1:11:58.680 --> 1:11:59.840 step in the door and then I'm gonna do whatever. 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:02.240 And I had him like, dude, one hopefully you know, 1:12:04.200 --> 1:12:07.320 like hopefully like number one, but like they had Jadavi 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:11.880 Davian Clowny out there. Dude, he was a surefire. And 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:13.960 he goes, well, you know there's a reason why I'm here. 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:16.920 You know, if you're there at six, be ready, have 1:12:17.000 --> 1:12:20.040 your bags packed. And I was like, holy shit, dude, 1:12:20.080 --> 1:12:23.280 I'm going to the Atlanta Falcons. I'm going to Atlanta Falcons. 1:12:23.280 --> 1:12:25.240 It's six. I'm like, I'm better to be a dirty bird. 1:12:25.840 --> 1:12:28.639 It's about to get crazy out here. And I remember 1:12:28.800 --> 1:12:32.000 like sitting at the draft and six came up and 1:12:32.080 --> 1:12:34.760 it's quiet, dude, and everywhere like I got my mom, 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:38.839 my dad, my brother, my best friends, my coach, my agents, 1:12:38.840 --> 1:12:41.639 and they're all standing around and I'm staring. I'm staring 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:44.960 at that classic phone and I hear I hear phone ringing. 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:48.120 It's two tables over. It's Jake Matthews and like in 1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:49.720 the green room, like you're not supposed to get up. 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:52.160 So I got up immediately and like walked like walked away, 1:12:52.200 --> 1:12:54.799 and I was like, dude, maybe everything's just a lie 1:12:55.200 --> 1:12:58.240 and I'm getting punked. Maybe I'm not even good at football, dude, 1:12:58.240 --> 1:13:00.600 and they've been paying these calls' sitting like I'm like 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:02.639 in my head so bad. I'm in the mirror staring 1:13:02.680 --> 1:13:05.559 at myself in the mirror, like, dude, you're a fucking loser, 1:13:06.000 --> 1:13:08.559 Like you ain't getting drafted. They brought you here to 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:10.280 make a fool out of you. This has been a 1:13:10.280 --> 1:13:12.960 five year joke. And I get there, dude. I remember 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:19.320 Detroit came up and I was like, god, no, yeah, 1:13:19.400 --> 1:13:21.759 yeah no, the Detroit at ten. I was like, dude, 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:23.680 because I was kind of ready to move to a 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:26.920 different state. I was like, I don't know about Detroit, dude, 1:13:27.040 --> 1:13:31.439 I don't know about that. And like when like like 1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:34.040 in the draft, like nine will be picking or ten 1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:36.080 will be picking, but eleven will be up because they've 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:37.720 already picked it. So you guys know you're on the clock. 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:40.000 So it'll switch from like it'll go to the next 1:13:40.000 --> 1:13:41.880 clock and they'll be like four minutes left as opposed 1:13:41.880 --> 1:13:46.680 as they're ten. And so like Tom Condon, who's like 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:49.400 my main agent, comes over to me and whispers in 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:51.240 my area and he's walking over to me. I'm like, dude, 1:13:51.439 --> 1:13:54.960 he's about to tell me Detroit. I guess that's I mean, 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:57.960 I was gonna be happy regardless, but like you know, 1:13:58.040 --> 1:13:59.760 I was a vend in church old and he comes 1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:05.320 over whispers he was Tennessee What, Yes, Tennessee Titans. I 1:14:05.360 --> 1:14:06.840 was like, no, wait, dude, I was, And I said 1:14:06.880 --> 1:14:09.400 the same thing, Michael Ruis, Michael Orr and that phone 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:11.519 started ringing. I don't even remember who I was talking to. 1:14:11.560 --> 1:14:15.120 I start to Carly, I think who was was she there? 1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:15.559 At that time? 1:14:15.720 --> 1:14:16.959 I thought it was Jessica. 1:14:17.240 --> 1:14:23.840 Jessica, Yeah, she was she was uh webster Rusting Webster's assistant, 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:26.200 and I talked to them, but I was like pissed, 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:28.320 And I wasn't mad because of Tennessee. I was just 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:31.320 mad that I felt like lied to or like I 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.519 like I had this image of my head of like, dude, 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:35.200 you're the number one tackle and I was ended up 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:37.160 being the third and like eleventh overall, which I know 1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:39.960 is a little bit ridiculous to be complaining about, but 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:40.360 like that was. 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:43.240 I mean, I'm sitting here, Yeah, I'm sitting here listening 1:14:43.280 --> 1:14:45.479 all the time, like man like yeah, but I'm into 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:47.439 your story thinking like yeah, it sucks, and then I'm like, 1:14:47.439 --> 1:14:50.000 well shit, I mean in my house. 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:52.640 I guess yeah, I just yeah, because I remember you 1:14:52.720 --> 1:14:55.840 coming on your visit. But I just remember, like every 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:58.040 every staft's different how they handle the draft and. 1:14:58.000 --> 1:14:59.880 Some places are more inclusive to the coaches than I. 1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:05.200 Yeah, and the way that went, I thought we would 1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:07.760 get a tackle, But like I remember looking at it. 1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:09.519 What made you think we get a tackle? Though? 1:15:10.000 --> 1:15:12.719 Because there was three guys in that pod. 1:15:13.360 --> 1:15:17.439 It was Robinson, Jake, and you. So you just figured, 1:15:17.479 --> 1:15:20.599 like are these teams the tackles? Like here's probably who's 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:21.080 going to where? 1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:24.520 I just didn't like. 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:25.400 When we were watching them all you just assumed that, 1:15:25.520 --> 1:15:28.400 all right, well this guy may he probably won't be there, 1:15:29.280 --> 1:15:31.000 And then it obviously felt a different way because I 1:15:31.000 --> 1:15:32.759 think everybody probably thought you were going to Atlanta. 1:15:33.840 --> 1:15:35.479 Yeah, I don't know, because I remember actually me and 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:37.400 Jake Matthews were sitting there like a day or so before, 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:39.519 and this is when it was all on Radio City 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:42.080 in New York, and I'm like, me and Jake, we 1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:44.400 don't really know each other, but we obviously know of 1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:46.760 each other. And I'm like, man, where do you want 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:51.320 to go? And he's like, you know, he starts, he 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:53.680 starts talking with like, well, you know, all the teams are. 1:15:53.680 --> 1:15:55.400 I was like this just Jake made no cameras here, bro, 1:15:55.439 --> 1:15:56.240 where do you want to go? Yeah? 1:15:56.240 --> 1:15:57.080 Which city you want to? 1:15:57.160 --> 1:15:59.040 And in my head, dude, for the last three days, 1:15:59.080 --> 1:16:00.960 I've been a falcon, you know, like. 1:16:00.880 --> 1:16:02.200 If my head, like if I head. 1:16:02.200 --> 1:16:03.960 After I was told I was like, yo, you are 1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:06.680 a falcon, and he's like, man, I really want to 1:16:06.720 --> 1:16:08.679 go to the Atlanta Falcons. I'm like, dude, yeah, me too. 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:13.599 That's sick. That's crazy, no doubt. But honestly, I think 1:16:13.640 --> 1:16:16.200 if I went to the Falcons that my life would be. Yeah, 1:16:16.200 --> 1:16:18.080 I don't think I would have done as well in 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:20.759 a place like Atlanta. I think like the city of Nashville. 1:16:22.200 --> 1:16:22.479 It was. 1:16:22.520 --> 1:16:24.000 It was a little bit of a bumpy road that 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:27.280 second season, but fuck, dude, these guys took me in 1:16:27.320 --> 1:16:29.880 like nobody's business. It's crazy how much like people are 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:31.639 so receptive to me as an offensive lineman. 1:16:31.840 --> 1:16:33.160 Yeah, that was a great place. 1:16:33.280 --> 1:16:36.160 It's awesome, dude, and they do I mean, no, there's 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:38.960 no sidebar, but that you talk about awkward dynamics because 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:40.120 Jake's dad. 1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:42.080 Had been the line coach before that. The West came 1:16:42.120 --> 1:16:43.880 in like it was a completely different staff. 1:16:43.880 --> 1:16:47.640 So Bruce, who's obviously an oiler Titan legend, had been 1:16:47.680 --> 1:16:49.719 in the line coach. Yeah, and then here's his sign, 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:52.640 and like it's like everything hangs in the balance, Like 1:16:52.680 --> 1:16:55.360 what does Atlanta do? Like, you know, is it the 1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:58.519 Titans draft Jake matt You know, it's justody. 1:16:58.880 --> 1:17:02.839 Imagine if the Matthew's got drafted by the tests Titans, maybe, 1:17:03.560 --> 1:17:05.880 like the storyline would be unbelievable. 1:17:06.200 --> 1:17:08.639 Yeah, I wouldn't pritty to some of those conversations. I'm 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:09.960 curious what Rustin would have done. 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:11.920 He probably would have took him. 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:12.160 Yeah. 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:13.040 I mean, if you guys. 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:14.720 Were that you guys, if you guys were in the 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:16.240 market for a left tackle. 1:17:16.520 --> 1:17:17.760 Yeah, I don't know. 1:17:17.800 --> 1:17:19.840 Those were above my big grade. Yeah, so I don't know, 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:21.080 but that I always thought in my head. 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:24.200 I was like, well, what if I take Jake? Like yeah, 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:25.439 and Bruce is awesome? Like it. 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:27.000 You know what's cool is like I got to work 1:17:27.040 --> 1:17:30.120 with like Bruce Matthews and Russ Graham. Yeah, that's cool, 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:32.600 like being a kid that was like an alignment that 1:17:32.720 --> 1:17:36.040 looked up to guys like and then obviously Mike Munchek too, 1:17:36.920 --> 1:17:39.280 Like those are like three studs of like the eighties 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:41.160 and like Bruce played forever, so that. 1:17:41.160 --> 1:17:45.719 Whole family too, is just wild. The genie I remember, 1:17:46.840 --> 1:17:49.040 like I think it was it was after my second 1:17:49.400 --> 1:17:51.680 when I made my second Pro Bowl. I was I 1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:54.439 was joking. I jokingly went up to Hast the equipment guy, 1:17:54.720 --> 1:17:56.960 and I was like, yeah, I was like how many 1:17:57.040 --> 1:18:00.280 how many Pro Bowls does Bruce Matthews have and how 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:04.040 is like, well, but about fourteen in a row. And 1:18:04.080 --> 1:18:06.840 I was like, twelve more, twelve more because I got 1:18:06.880 --> 1:18:08.360 a vendeted against the Matthews family. 1:18:08.360 --> 1:18:09.080 Blah blah blah. 1:18:09.160 --> 1:18:12.240 I was totally kidding. Well, like two days later, is like, 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:14.760 come in my office real quick. I come back, come 1:18:14.760 --> 1:18:17.040 on back to where I go into his office. He 1:18:17.080 --> 1:18:20.000 literally gave me a stern talking to you about like listen, 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:24.240 Bruce like worked his ass off. He was this guy. 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:27.040 He was that guy like you gotta respect him. Yeah, 1:18:27.080 --> 1:18:29.360 And I was like, yo, dude, I was totally kidding. 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.800 That's I was like, my bad, but it's dude, I 1:18:32.840 --> 1:18:36.639 mean twenty years right, he played like nineteen or twenty 1:18:36.680 --> 1:18:39.639 years in the league and he was all Pro at center, 1:18:39.680 --> 1:18:40.479 guard and tackle. 1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:43.640 That is pretty unreal. 1:18:42.720 --> 1:18:45.880 That might not ever happen again. He is. 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:47.880 That's an awesome guy too. Like all those guys, all 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:48.800 three of those guys, they all have. 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:51.040 Gold jackets, and all three of them are just awesome 1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:53.720 human beings. Yeah, and they're all, you know, different in 1:18:53.760 --> 1:18:57.160 their own ways, but they're just studs, just stug people 1:18:57.160 --> 1:18:57.519 to work for. 1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:00.000 Like Munch was was great. He taught me so much 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:00.719 to you talked. 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:02.880 About a guy that like guy had a gold jacket, 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:06.360 he had done QC work like he would meticulous about 1:19:06.439 --> 1:19:10.040 drawing protections and runs like he would like he appreciated 1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:14.799 that stuff. Like you've met obviously Munch coaching the Probramah, 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:17.640 So like I've been really lucky, Like I've gotten to 1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:20.400 work with some awesome like legends of the game, like 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:23.479 starting with Joe Gibbs and then getting here with Munch, 1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:25.360 and there's a named tons of guys. 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:28.400 Dude, Munch is the man too, Like he he was 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:30.840 an awesome guy and like I met him when he 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:33.640 has a Steelers coach the Pro Bowl, and he was 1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:36.439 just awesome. Like him, Alejandro Ville in a wave, a 1:19:36.600 --> 1:19:40.120 pouncy di castro, like we all just hung out, had 1:19:40.160 --> 1:19:42.559 a couple of beers. He was just swapping some stories, dude, 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:45.240 talking about the old times. All those guys talk about 1:19:45.240 --> 1:19:48.840 the old times. Man, it's not like a good story though, Like, yeah, 1:19:49.200 --> 1:19:52.840 there's a there's a guy named Corey Smith or something. 1:19:52.920 --> 1:19:55.000 There's a country music singer. He's got oh yeah, he's 1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:58.080 got yeah. He's awesome from Atlanta, Georgia, and he's got 1:19:58.120 --> 1:20:00.160 a he's got a line. He's like my favorite story, 1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:02.960 start my favorite conversation, start with I remember when yeah, 1:20:03.000 --> 1:20:05.400 you know you get to that age. Man, everything's like, dude, 1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:07.400 remember what it was like this? Yeah, remember when we 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:08.080 did this stuff? 1:20:08.720 --> 1:20:09.400 That was awesome. 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:10.160 It's gonna be us. 1:20:11.000 --> 1:20:14.000 No, man, we get old living that present for sure, 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:14.799 live in that present. 1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:17.479 Man. We started that stupid bus. 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:23.600 Yeah, yeah, failed, it may take off. You had some 1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:25.080 plans for this bus, man. 1:20:25.000 --> 1:20:26.840 We did have an original idea. 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:31.160 Yeah, this the bus was all Taylor did. He saw 1:20:31.200 --> 1:20:33.439 the bus, it was like, yo, I gotta have it. 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:35.200 And I was like, are we gonna be a fit 1:20:35.479 --> 1:20:37.400 everything you see? I'm sitting here thinking like, yeah, how 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:39.000 in the hell are we gonna make this studio? Like 1:20:39.040 --> 1:20:42.040 are we just kind of being reactive? And then sure enough? 1:20:42.040 --> 1:20:44.200 Man, a couple weeks later, I'm like, hey, bro, you 1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:47.120 were you were right? Like this thing is? This thing's awesome? 1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:48.439 How the transaction go down? 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:50.200 The bus? 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:50.920 Yo? 1:20:51.080 --> 1:20:53.400 Just so, I never even met the dude. His name 1:20:53.479 --> 1:20:56.160 is Huan and he owns like that, he owns that 1:20:56.200 --> 1:21:03.320 coffee shop. Yeah yeah he juice Juice like they did 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:06.400 Home Street Home. That's how I met these guys. And 1:21:06.520 --> 1:21:09.840 so Jude like we're talking about doing a podcast and 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:12.360 we're like, what about a studio? And Juice like I 1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:14.639 guess like you guys had a conversation before you got there, 1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:17.040 before I even got there, and they're like, check out 1:21:17.080 --> 1:21:18.880 this bus, and you were it was like talor's gonna 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:19.120 love this. 1:21:19.280 --> 1:21:19.439 Yeah. 1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:21.639 I was like, I don't know, man, but to show 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:23.519 that the tailor, he's gonna love this shit. 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:26.240 So they they were talking about studios and Juic said, well, 1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:29.360 we're at this bus and I'm like, regardless of studio 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:32.760 or not, I'm buying that bus, regardless of price. And 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:34.479 he goes, well, I think he only wants like six 1:21:34.600 --> 1:21:37.759 hundred dollars for the bus, and I was like, dude, 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:40.439 hell yeah, like six hundred bucks. Like, let me go 1:21:40.479 --> 1:21:42.719 to the ATM real quick. Dude's get this thing done. 1:21:42.920 --> 1:21:45.320 Get this thing done. And and I, uh, we called 1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:47.120 Juan because we were like, where's this bus out? We 1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:48.639 had to go see it right now if it's close enough. 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.720 Ended up being like forty feet away, so we like 1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:53.479 we came out in here and checked out. I was like, dude, 1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:56.400 this thing is amazing. But this whole area, dude was 1:21:56.439 --> 1:21:59.640 discussing all these all these stickers were here, and then 1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:02.400 we had like there was recliners all over the place, 1:22:02.800 --> 1:22:04.920 and in the back right corner there was a bunch 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:08.560 of like student benches and like, uh, there was a 1:22:08.920 --> 1:22:10.720 recliner in the front. It was terrible, dude. There was 1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:13.120 a there was like squirrels living in the corner. 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:16.559 Here that you see all throughout the whole day. 1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:18.479 Yeah, it was bad. So we got a couple of 1:22:18.520 --> 1:22:20.840 guys in here, Jeff Estis and the boys, and they like, 1:22:21.479 --> 1:22:23.639 I was like, I literally I gave him, gave him 1:22:23.640 --> 1:22:25.120 ten grand I was like, I'm not going to dime 1:22:25.160 --> 1:22:26.759 above this, but yeah, to turn this into a studio. 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:30.600 And so they put the flooring in, they cleaned the 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:32.559 entire thing up, they put the AC unit in. 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:35.800 Built that table that they're all that the production team's 1:22:35.800 --> 1:22:36.200 working on. 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:38.559 But then but everybody had an input on it because 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:41.479 like at my thought was like, oh, let's film it 1:22:41.520 --> 1:22:44.080 back there. It'll be easy because there's there's those two 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:46.880 wheel wells that we made box stuff. Oh, it's like cool, 1:22:46.880 --> 1:22:48.680 we could just sit there. And she's like, well, the 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:50.320 production would be better if it was facing this way. 1:22:50.320 --> 1:22:52.200 Blah blah blah. Like Juice and Peepee had that whole 1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:55.760 thing walked down. So like we all kind of did it. 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:59.000 We'll got the furniture, it looks a little fur rudy 1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:02.080 down there, got that seventy sheet going. 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:03.200 I told you what made me laugh. 1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:05.639 I was trying to make sure I was getting ready 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:08.360 to I didn't screw this up for you guys. And 1:23:08.400 --> 1:23:10.200 I was watching those promo videos that made me laugh. 1:23:10.200 --> 1:23:12.440 My ass. You liked them. 1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:17.160 They're on BUS and WTV. Yeah, you've you've. 1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:21.280 Killed it though your dad started FedEx and you like, 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:23.920 for lack of a better word, let's be honest, don't 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:26.360 have to do anything. You know what I'm saying. Your 1:23:26.880 --> 1:23:31.040 your sister doesn't and everything. What what was it about 1:23:31.320 --> 1:23:33.960 your mentality to say that I need to be self 1:23:34.000 --> 1:23:36.640 made because a lot of times people say, show me 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:41.040 the son of a billionaire, and that kid's fucked because 1:23:41.080 --> 1:23:44.080 they're not gonna be able to they'll never be self made. Yeah, 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:48.760 here you are, go play college football. College football doesn't 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:50.080 work out the way you want from the standpoint of 1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:52.000 making to the NFL. You say I'm gonna go into 1:23:52.080 --> 1:23:54.800 coaching when you don't have to, and coaching is a 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:57.559 very stressful job, you see, right, Yeah, and you start 1:23:57.600 --> 1:24:00.880 working your way up the ranks. How did that mindset be? 1:24:01.400 --> 1:24:01.479 Like? 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.080 How did you develop that mindset of like I don't 1:24:04.080 --> 1:24:07.120 care what my father did. I want to be Yeah, I. 1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:09.760 Mean it's great. I'll give you a great question. 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.559 I'll give you a shorter answer because it's a long 1:24:12.640 --> 1:24:14.760 layered answer. But first of all, like I think you 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:16.640 gotta get a lot of credit to my parents, Like 1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:18.360 I know, idea what my dad did growing up. 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:20.000 I just knew he worked hard. 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:24.040 Right he was, you know, and you gotta go back 1:24:24.040 --> 1:24:25.680 and look at where my dad came from. Like he 1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:27.920 lost his dad at four, so he never knew. He 1:24:27.920 --> 1:24:30.799 never had a dad around, and my grandmother got remarried. 1:24:30.800 --> 1:24:32.639 But he basically grew up as like an only child. 1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:36.720 And my grandfather had made some money. He was an 1:24:36.840 --> 1:24:39.559 entrepreneur himself and actually was one of the co founders 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:41.360 of like some of the short older stuff guys must 1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:43.600 have been in like the twenties or thirties. Yeah, and 1:24:43.920 --> 1:24:45.639 he was an interesting guy. I think he got remarried 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:47.120 like four times. I think every time his wife got 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:47.839 to twenty seven. 1:24:47.680 --> 1:24:50.120 He got remarried. I could say that now it's rest 1:24:50.160 --> 1:24:51.000 in peace of my grandmother. 1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:54.400 She's not around, but so Heah, my dad, it was like, 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:56.400 you know, he was in his fifties and he died 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:57.160 of a heart attack. 1:24:57.479 --> 1:24:59.559 So he grew up and then his my dad's high 1:24:59.560 --> 1:25:00.000 school coach. 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:02.559 He had a huge impact on him, and then he 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:04.599 ended up going to Yale. So obviously he was much 1:25:04.680 --> 1:25:08.760 smarter than I was and got into Yale. And so 1:25:08.800 --> 1:25:11.160 he was going to graduate college in nineteen sixty six, 1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:14.160 and he figured that they were gonna get he was 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:16.000 gonna get drafted in Vietnam. So he was like, I'm 1:25:16.040 --> 1:25:18.479 gonna choose which branch are going. So he decided to 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:20.200 go in the marine. So going into the senior year, 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:23.280 he went to what would now be the OCS where 1:25:23.280 --> 1:25:26.080 you go to Officer Candidate School. He graduated basic school 1:25:26.080 --> 1:25:27.599 and at that point you're supposed to like, I think 1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:29.719 the basic school was supposed to be like nine months. 1:25:29.720 --> 1:25:32.040 Maybe he was like everything was sped up. He's like, 1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:35.160 before we knew it were in Vietnam, like and so. 1:25:35.240 --> 1:25:36.200 And the tours they were. 1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:37.439 Like he did a tour. 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:40.479 He did two tours. Wow, And he was an infantry 1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:41.360 platoon leader. 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:43.639 I think it was he was there I think all 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:47.920 sixty seven if I had that right. And it's funny 1:25:47.960 --> 1:25:50.120 he never really talked about it growing up as he's 1:25:50.120 --> 1:25:53.200 gotten older, he's talked more about it. Then he went 1:25:53.240 --> 1:25:55.559 back as a Ford Air controller, so he did two 1:25:55.640 --> 1:25:58.640 long tours there, and you know, he credits everything to 1:25:58.680 --> 1:26:01.360 the Marine Corps where he got his ideas. Like, you know, 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:03.240 people ask him, where'd you go to business school? He's like, 1:26:03.280 --> 1:26:05.160 I went to the Uninitied State's Marine Corps, where I 1:26:05.200 --> 1:26:09.839 learned more valuable lessons about logistics and organizing and culture 1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:13.120 and all that stuff. So his mentality is very different 1:26:13.120 --> 1:26:13.800 than a lot of people. 1:26:13.840 --> 1:26:16.479 Like he was. He was a marine at heart, and 1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:18.320 so the way like my brother is like he was. 1:26:18.880 --> 1:26:20.280 He used to get after me and my brother and 1:26:20.280 --> 1:26:22.639 he and so he had his high school coach and impact, 1:26:22.800 --> 1:26:24.680 like he wanted us to get involved in something. So 1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:27.040 he was he's such he's such a humble guy. Like 1:26:27.080 --> 1:26:29.080 if you met at me, like he's so different, but 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:30.720 that I didn't know any different. So your little kid, 1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:31.799 you go around and. 1:26:31.840 --> 1:26:34.799 My mom's old school. She was from a big Catholic family. 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:37.080 I think by the time all her oller brothers and sisters, 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:38.840 I think when they're eighteen, my grandfather like get out 1:26:38.840 --> 1:26:40.840 of the house, right, And it's just some you know, 1:26:41.800 --> 1:26:45.840 southern family, like it's you gotta find find your way, 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:48.720 and uh so they did a great job. My mom 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:52.719 was adamant about like not gonna try to spoil these kids. 1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:54.439 And so it was like at school, so I didn't 1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:55.680 know my dad did, and like you'd be in like 1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:58.599 some grades like my dad said, your dad is you know, 1:26:58.760 --> 1:26:59.519 runs this or. 1:26:59.479 --> 1:27:01.360 He's got and I'd be like, no, it doesn't. 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:02.760 My dad would beat your dad's ass. 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:05.280 Yeah, I think I learned more from like other kids 1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:06.559 at school, you know. 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:08.519 And then like obviously, so you guys don't have like 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:10.880 a like a nice house or we did. 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:13.320 Don't could me wrong, but it's there's nothing like like 1:27:13.479 --> 1:27:16.240 if you understand my dad wears like he has a 1:27:16.320 --> 1:27:20.120 dark gray suit like a navy blazer, like he's the 1:27:20.120 --> 1:27:23.400 most if you saw his weekend gear is like khakis 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:27.280 and a polo and like really shined like shoes, right, 1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:30.160 Like there's nothing, there's no flair about him, like he drives. 1:27:29.920 --> 1:27:30.960 Away from a new balance. 1:27:32.200 --> 1:27:33.719 It might be what he wears when he plays tennis. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:35.880 He's like he looks like he's playing Wimbledon. Like there's 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:37.559 I've never seen him in a T shirt. He doesn't 1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:38.599 want a T shirt since Vietnam. 1:27:38.840 --> 1:27:39.479 No way. 1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:42.639 Yeah, he's just like and there's nothing flashy about him. Yeah, 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:44.880 there's nothing flashy like the store he gets like suits 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:47.160 in Memphis, like at this oak caall which open one 1:27:47.200 --> 1:27:47.799 here in Nashville. 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:50.439 They like, I talked to the guy, They're like, we 1:27:50.479 --> 1:27:51.840 try to get your dad to wear like a pin 1:27:51.920 --> 1:27:55.320 strike not happening, you know. So he's just like that's 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:55.680 what he is. 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:58.680 He drives like an explorer, like he doesn't. So our 1:27:58.720 --> 1:28:01.559 house we had, we had decent sized land, but it's 1:28:01.600 --> 1:28:03.680 not extravagant like you walked into. It's not like what 1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:06.760 you would think on something you'd see and like like that. 1:28:06.920 --> 1:28:09.840 You know, these like mansions and Beverly Hills. And then 1:28:09.960 --> 1:28:11.439 I never knew anything because there's so many people. So 1:28:11.479 --> 1:28:12.680 I was like, oh, we have big Oscar's a lot 1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:15.120 of people. Like it just never registered to me obviously 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:16.240 until you start getting older. 1:28:16.280 --> 1:28:17.960 But you get older though, like you get in a 1:28:18.120 --> 1:28:20.720 high school in college, like you're very aware at that 1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:24.080 point absolutely and still like you still don't succumb to 1:28:24.160 --> 1:28:28.160 the fall into that mindset of you know, still where 1:28:28.160 --> 1:28:28.360 did it? 1:28:28.439 --> 1:28:30.200 Where did it? Your parents did that great job? 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:33.360 But at what stories happened where it cultivated the way, 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:35.960 you know, I'm going to basically be my own dude, 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:38.120 Like I'm gonna find my own damn way without. 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:40.120 Yeah, I think it kind of like a ship on 1:28:40.160 --> 1:28:41.600 your shoulder in the way, and it maybe was just 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:44.120 something that hits, like because you got tired of people 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:46.760 like assuming things about you. And that's where this game 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:49.320 was great, because there's the thing that's unbelievable when you're 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:51.920 playing football, no matter what position you play, it's the 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:54.559 most eclectic group of people. You know, like you play 1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:57.200 a line or you play linebacker, receiver, like you just 1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.559 it's just a mixed bag of people and. 1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:00.559 You kind of find identity. 1:29:00.600 --> 1:29:02.720 And it was like, all right, well, people say, well 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:04.880 because you went to a private school where your dad's 1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:06.720 got money, Like all right, well, now I can to 1:29:06.720 --> 1:29:08.360 play football and try to beat the shit out of 1:29:08.360 --> 1:29:10.240 somebody and prove if I'm better or not, and you 1:29:10.280 --> 1:29:12.000 would learn a lot of valuable lessons. And so it 1:29:12.080 --> 1:29:15.080 just really motivated me to say, like, there's something where 1:29:15.080 --> 1:29:17.880 I can prove it where people can't say, oh, you're 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:19.920 only getting ahead because of this, And so that kind 1:29:19.920 --> 1:29:21.720 of motivated me and my dad and then obviously you 1:29:21.800 --> 1:29:24.080 realize as you grow older. Sure like you'd be moron 1:29:24.160 --> 1:29:26.080 not to realize, like something's different, right. 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:28.280 Like I and going back to what I was talking 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:30.680 about earlier, like with my dad, like he would let 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:33.200 us travel with him, like if he wanted to know 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:34.519 that my brother and sisters wanted. I went to my 1:29:34.600 --> 1:29:35.280 dad every when I was. 1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:41.200 Younger Southwest one through fifteen, early bird special but. 1:29:41.320 --> 1:29:44.519 Like you know, I and then looking back on it, it 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:47.160 was like unbelievable experiences like the places I got to 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:49.520 go with them and the people I got to meet, absolutely, 1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:50.679 and so. 1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:51.439 He just kept that in mind. 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:53.360 It's like, look, if you don't earn it yourself, like 1:29:53.680 --> 1:29:55.040 it's not going to mean as much to you. 1:29:55.120 --> 1:29:57.080 And it's kind of what he instilled into me. 1:29:57.160 --> 1:29:59.640 So like even going to the high school, like like 1:29:59.680 --> 1:30:01.439 surely I didn't need a scholarship, but that was like 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:04.240 a big deal in me, Like no doubt, right, it's 1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:07.880 like one of the like yet I had it, and yeah, 1:30:07.920 --> 1:30:09.240 I just have to get my parents out credit and 1:30:09.280 --> 1:30:11.320 all all my brother and sisters. Like if you ask anybody, 1:30:11.360 --> 1:30:13.880 like my mom would snap us off and my dad 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:15.839 would like he wasn't going to tolerate. 1:30:16.000 --> 1:30:18.640 Yeah, that's the hell of a job. And then you 1:30:18.640 --> 1:30:20.840 get into college world and into college culture and there's 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:23.719 no like. You learned a lot there playing ball too, so. 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:25.200 Sure you learn a lot about it. I mean every 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:28.439 separate way. But uh, that's why I love being involved 1:30:28.439 --> 1:30:30.400 in football because you just you run into so many 1:30:30.439 --> 1:30:34.639 cool people. Yeah, interesting people, just different. There's nothing like it. 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:36.880 Hell yeah, yeah, football is unique. Man. 1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:38.360 Now you're on the bus. 1:30:38.600 --> 1:30:39.320 Now I'm on a bus. 1:30:39.360 --> 1:30:41.560 Now I'm on a bus where I pulled in this 1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:44.000 parking lot and didn't know what was gonna happen. 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:45.960 You walk in the bus and then just start talking 1:30:46.000 --> 1:30:48.080 and how dope your parents are. How great of a 1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:48.679 job they did. 1:30:48.720 --> 1:30:50.679 So yeah, I gotta give him credit due that's that's 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:53.240 pretty awesome. That is that's got to be for him too, 1:30:53.280 --> 1:30:56.639 to not be like, yo, I'm making like this much 1:30:56.680 --> 1:31:01.120 money and not to be like get flashy or like 1:31:01.240 --> 1:31:04.000 maybe loses himself. That he got him to that point, 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:07.160 that says a lot about him, man. Because I saw 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:09.960 something on Twitter, the idea. It's like, uh, it's like 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:12.519 rich people dressed like this, and it showed like Bill 1:31:12.600 --> 1:31:14.599 Gates and all those guys and they're wearing like like 1:31:14.640 --> 1:31:17.960 you just said, like khakis and yeah, driving pickups and 1:31:18.000 --> 1:31:19.880 a collared shirt and they poor people just like this 1:31:19.920 --> 1:31:23.200 and it's like Gucci belt, Louis Vuitton this but proud 1:31:23.240 --> 1:31:25.559 of that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's it's 1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:29.120 it's crazy, like, yeah, the less let's flashy, the better, dude, 1:31:30.160 --> 1:31:32.800 go for this homeless look man, yeah, man, keeping it 1:31:32.800 --> 1:31:33.240 over and over. 1:31:35.080 --> 1:31:37.560 Yeah, boy, No, it's uh. 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:39.879 He's awesome. I talked to him all the time. He's 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:41.439 he helps me out on something. It's funny. 1:31:41.479 --> 1:31:41.559 Now. 1:31:42.120 --> 1:31:44.160 The one thing I tried to he'll never do it. 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:46.800 He doesn't want to write a book. But he's got 1:31:46.800 --> 1:31:49.240 all these like fascinating stories, like you can ask for 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:51.320 something like if you just put the random topic like 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:53.840 have you ever been so and been here? 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:54.920 Have you ever met so and so? 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:56.920 Like you was just daying it like Vladimir Putin and 1:31:56.920 --> 1:31:58.920 he's like, yeah, I met him in France blah blah blah, 1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:00.000 and he can tell you a story about it. 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:00.479 Yeah. 1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:03.719 Or he'd be like Elvis and he'd be like, well, 1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:09.320 I was growing up. Elvis was my neighbor to the backyard. 1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:10.120 And I had a little dog running to him and 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:12.880 you know he played with the dog and like, you know, 1:32:12.920 --> 1:32:14.439 stuff like that. It's like, I want him to write 1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:16.479 these stories down and he's got way more than that. 1:32:16.520 --> 1:32:18.960 I'm not gonna you can't run it. 1:32:19.000 --> 1:32:20.000 He might be on the bus one day. 1:32:20.040 --> 1:32:20.920 He could be on a bus. 1:32:21.040 --> 1:32:21.920 Would he come on the bus? 1:32:21.920 --> 1:32:23.439 You think interesting? 1:32:23.560 --> 1:32:25.280 I think John cal Perry tried to get him to 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:27.719 a podcast, to get on his podcast at some point, 1:32:27.880 --> 1:32:29.759 and he thought about it because him and cal Perry, 1:32:29.800 --> 1:32:33.040 when cal was in Memphis, they got to know each 1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:34.280 other pretty well. I think he thought about it. 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:36.240 I don't know. I mean, it's worth a shot. 1:32:36.600 --> 1:32:38.599 What if his son called him up, he dad, man, 1:32:38.640 --> 1:32:41.320 you know boys, man, I just got on the bus 1:32:41.360 --> 1:32:42.320 and they want you. 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:43.360 I think it'd be awesome. 1:32:43.360 --> 1:32:44.600 He's got a sense of humor, you know, as as 1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:47.320 serious as he looks like, he's got a pretty good 1:32:47.320 --> 1:32:47.840 sense of humor. 1:32:47.880 --> 1:32:48.880 So he'd ask him that question. 1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:52.200 Want to do that intimidated the bus? So whatever you 1:32:52.200 --> 1:32:54.040 want to talk about here? Do you want my mic? 1:32:54.200 --> 1:32:57.360 Yeah? Do you have any questions for us? Yeah? 1:32:57.080 --> 1:32:57.280 Yeah? 1:32:57.680 --> 1:32:59.160 I try to get more stuff out of him now 1:32:59.200 --> 1:33:01.280 because and I just want somebody like writes my brothers 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:03.280 and I have talked about this, like, just want to 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:04.639 get somebody to write these stories now. 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:06.760 Yeah, I know that's what you need. 1:33:06.840 --> 1:33:08.479 Man, As someone who's done as much as he has, 1:33:09.200 --> 1:33:11.720 it'd almost be unfair to the world to not give 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:12.400 out the stories. 1:33:12.520 --> 1:33:12.880 I know. 1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:17.120 Has he met Kim Jong Um or whatever his name is. No, 1:33:17.200 --> 1:33:19.800 he is not, but just thinking a name, understanding their 1:33:19.840 --> 1:33:22.280 names of I had Frank Sinatra, Arnold Seneger. He's definitely 1:33:22.280 --> 1:33:26.320 met Frank. I love to hear that story, dude. 1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:28.280 I mean I can call him right now and ask him, 1:33:28.680 --> 1:33:30.120 is that bad radio? 1:33:30.120 --> 1:33:30.360 No? 1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:33.360 Oh yeah, we have a we have a Bluetooth hooked up. 1:33:33.800 --> 1:33:35.520 He'd be so confused. 1:33:35.240 --> 1:33:39.880 That, hey, I'm on a bus in a podcast in 1:33:39.960 --> 1:33:40.879 a remote location. 1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:41.880 Yeah. 1:33:42.160 --> 1:33:44.600 He might be like, oh that's great boos Will Compton. 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:49.639 Oh man, Jesus, hey, Jesus, just trashing you over there? 1:33:49.760 --> 1:33:54.160 Know what a dinky dude. That's awesome. I appreciate you coming. 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:56.920 On the podcast. I didn't incriminate myself. 1:33:57.400 --> 1:33:59.160 I think he did a great job. I think he 1:33:59.200 --> 1:33:59.599 really did. 1:33:59.680 --> 1:34:02.439 You guys gonna hit like you've seen some of these 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:07.240 things take off. I really hope it does, because you know, 1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:08.000 a lot of this stuff. 1:34:08.000 --> 1:34:10.439 This podcast is gonna get me through film watching. I 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:12.120 watched film and I listened to podcasts. 1:34:12.120 --> 1:34:13.519 Well, I hope you hopefully you listen to this. 1:34:13.560 --> 1:34:14.320 Oh, I've gone through. 1:34:14.360 --> 1:34:16.240 I mean, I know this is my my own, but 1:34:16.280 --> 1:34:18.800 I enjoyed the delay anyone. I'm really curious to honest 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:19.599 you guys get on here. 1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:21.640 Yeah, we got some talks to some people. We just 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:23.320 gotta start putting up more in motion. You know what 1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:25.120 I'm saying. I think the more stuff we put out 1:34:25.160 --> 1:34:29.439 like this podcast, because of who you are and how 1:34:29.479 --> 1:34:31.200 no one's really spoke to you yet, I think a 1:34:31.200 --> 1:34:34.360 lot of people will be really interested in this. So 1:34:34.520 --> 1:34:35.439 we appreciate you coming on. 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:36.160 No, thanks a lot. 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:38.400 Yeah, I can ever do anything to come on now. 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:40.360 Raves, dude, I talked to Raves the other day when 1:34:40.360 --> 1:34:42.479 he talked talked to us about like, you know, just 1:34:42.479 --> 1:34:45.679 be smart or whatever, and I'm like, you know, Will 1:34:45.720 --> 1:34:47.200 still wants you in the podcast. He goes, oh, I 1:34:47.200 --> 1:34:48.799 got something for Will whenever he wants. 1:34:48.600 --> 1:34:52.639 Me Taylor and said, tell Will if he has any balls, 1:34:52.640 --> 1:34:55.559 you'll have me on the pod. 1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:58.360 I'd be worried about him disrespecting me in front of 1:34:58.360 --> 1:34:58.679 the boys. 1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:03.800 I'll be talking squad yeah, cut it. 1:35:03.920 --> 1:35:06.240 Yeah, oh we could. He's good at that, man, he's 1:35:06.320 --> 1:35:08.920 so witty. He is last thing we'll talk about and 1:35:08.960 --> 1:35:10.679 then we we'll jump off this thing. Man. But he's 1:35:10.920 --> 1:35:13.640 he'll get in there and he'll be like, so and so, 1:35:14.920 --> 1:35:17.479 what do you think of this? And cover two? Yeah, 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:19.760 I'll let you know obviously a little long, maybe share 1:35:19.800 --> 1:35:21.800 some of your boys and he'll just go into it. 1:35:22.120 --> 1:35:24.400 Or when he pulls up the notes of you know what, 1:35:24.439 --> 1:35:25.160 players say. 1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:26.880 Hey, Rashan, you might want to write this ship down. 1:35:26.920 --> 1:35:27.559 It's important. 1:35:29.000 --> 1:35:31.360 He gets those rookies, man, he gets them. I'm gonna 1:35:31.360 --> 1:35:34.160 shave them up, dude, Like, dude, start to lock in. Yeah, 1:35:34.200 --> 1:35:38.400 like he came at like Stinny and Stinny's on his 1:35:38.400 --> 1:35:41.280 p's and Ques. Yeah, locked and locked and it's awesome. 1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:44.400 Rashawan on the caravan is still the most impressive things 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:46.599 I've ever seen on the caravan He's done. 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:47.519 I think every one of them. 1:35:47.760 --> 1:35:49.040 He missed one, did he really? 1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:49.639 Yeah? 1:35:49.800 --> 1:35:51.200 Someone in his family past so we had to go 1:35:51.240 --> 1:35:53.960 to a funeral or something like that. But his his 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:56.559 goal was to be the first Titans player to ever 1:35:56.600 --> 1:35:57.040 do it. 1:35:57.200 --> 1:36:00.680 To do what you go to all the caravans? Really? Yeah, 1:36:00.800 --> 1:36:01.559 RAS's a good dude. 1:36:01.560 --> 1:36:03.680 Man, What a unique thing to be the first to do. 1:36:04.080 --> 1:36:04.880 I want to be the first. 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:08.960 I's like Ripley's believe it or not, like first person 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:11.599 to stack forty seven paper clips on top of each other, 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:14.679 like something ridiculous. Okay, that's a world record. 1:36:15.200 --> 1:36:17.680 But hey, Ray, I'm sure you're going to listen to this. 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:20.799 You texted Taylor and said, if Will has any balls, 1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:23.840 to get me on the bus. And I'm telling you, 1:36:23.920 --> 1:36:26.360 if you have any balls, text me to get on 1:36:26.400 --> 1:36:26.880 the bus. 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:33.799 Oh, don't run it with that juice. No, that's solid. 1:36:33.840 --> 1:36:35.360 That was solid. 1:36:35.920 --> 1:36:37.360 I'll tell you what, man, I'm being the next team 1:36:37.400 --> 1:36:38.559 meeting after this thing airs. 1:36:41.120 --> 1:36:43.280 Hey what yeah, you tell. 1:36:43.240 --> 1:36:46.360 Compton that if here's any balls that I got, the balls, 1:36:46.360 --> 1:36:47.559 that we got the balls, I 1:36:47.760 --> 1:36:48.360 Have me on