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Speaker 1: Hello, while you fellow busting with the boys advocates, the puppies,

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Speaker 1: the tiny little puppies. This is your guy, your dad,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan speaking to you right now and as always,

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Speaker 1: my special little guy will Compton, my little wolfie. He

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Speaker 1: was a puppy and I was a pre puppy, preteen puppy,

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Speaker 1: growing up so fast, grown, so proud of how fast

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Speaker 1: you're growing up and a man and wolf you're becoming. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: you make you make a father proud.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I can make you proud. I got brother.

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Speaker 1: That's a week. I can't be a brother. And your

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Speaker 1: dad you ain't my dad?

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Speaker 2: Do you talk about?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sorry, I got a guess today. I know MYOC,

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Speaker 1: my offensive coordinator. We had Arthur Smith on and you know,

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Speaker 1: not a lot, not a lot out there about Arthur

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Speaker 1: Smith right now. Guy was has been with the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titan since twenty eleven and has worked his way up,

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Speaker 1: scratched and clawed to become the offensive coordinator of an

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Speaker 1: NFL franchise, which is a pretty cool story. A lot

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Speaker 1: of things go into it. Though. Arthur's father started FedEx,

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Speaker 1: and you think to yourself, this guy's probably a brat.

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Speaker 1: He's probably a spoiled little brat.

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Speaker 2: Little trust fun baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little trust fund baby. But the thing about

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Speaker 1: this baby is this baby works his tail off and

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Speaker 1: has made a self made man, which is a pretty

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Speaker 1: unbelievable feat, especially with you know, growing up and having

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Speaker 1: a father who is so successful, right right, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: really happen.

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Speaker 2: It happen a lot.

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Speaker 1: He does have his own story. His sister's got his

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Speaker 1: own story, which we get into that as well. Talk

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Speaker 1: about a lot of things, man. At one point we

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Speaker 1: even talked about psychedelics, so that's always a fun topic

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Speaker 1: to jump into.

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Speaker 3: Dude, he was good, man, he was insightful. He we

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Speaker 3: ask some pretty solid questions too.

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Speaker 1: We did a good job as well. You're right, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you gotta pump the tires.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, if you're thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: if you're on the fence of it, let me persuade

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Speaker 1: you just a little bit. Let's jump on Twitter, jump

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. Let's go to Bustin' WTB. That's one full

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Speaker 1: no spaces Bustin' WTB. Click the follow button and then

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Speaker 1: just start retweeting things. Just start retweeting everything, and just

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Speaker 1: send us things. Maybe we think something is cool, guess what,

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Speaker 1: we'll retweet it. And if Busting retweets it, I will

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Speaker 1: retweet it, and so well Will. But make sure you

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Speaker 1: gotta follow Busting with the Boys Busting WTB on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. And if you're thinking I need a little

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Speaker 1: video content, Taylor, I want to see your beautiful face

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Speaker 1: and will and so you're thinking.

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Speaker 2: Will and will beautiful smile?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a great smile, dude, you had a

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Speaker 1: great smile. How did how were you born? With that?

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. So YouTube you can go Busting with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: That's the full thing right there, and we'll have a

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Speaker 1: lot of content up there for you. Give that a like,

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Speaker 1: give that a follow, and help it. Subscribe a little

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Speaker 1: bit too. Facebook, don't have it, had it at one point,

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Speaker 1: kind of bailed on it. It's a little too personal

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Speaker 1: also our Facebook page, go ahead and do it. If

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Speaker 1: because I care, dude. I care about the bus and

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Speaker 1: because this bus can fill up all the puppies, dude.

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Speaker 1: And if we ever think to ourselves we don't have

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Speaker 1: and we'll call it the Denies, all the wolf puppies, dude.

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Speaker 1: And you'll get your own little place and we'll take

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Speaker 2: I feel you, dude, I feel you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel me?

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Speaker 2: How do I feel you?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready for Juice to drop that hook though you

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Speaker 3: said you're what. I'm ready for Juice to drop them.

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Speaker 1: I heard you the first time, but stop repeating yourself.

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Speaker 1: Juice drop that hook, my baby.

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Speaker 4: I do not have the bone right.

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Speaker 2: What did you ask him earlier? You're like, uh, you

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Speaker 1: I've had sex, Yeah, Matt, So listen to this.

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Speaker 4: It's true.

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Speaker 1: Actually we can. This is gonna be the first question

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of fired up because Art and I got

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Speaker 3: So where do you think you go after you die?

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Speaker 1: Personally? I don't. I have no idea.

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Speaker 4: People came back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they talk about what they see.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something out there to where there's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like some chemical that's released to where you think

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how do you fact check somebody on that?

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Speaker 1: Well, you don't have to take yourself to They call

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Speaker 1: It's scary, man. They they decriminalized mushrooms and in uh Colorado,

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Speaker 5: Ever hear about those like tech parties that have in

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Speaker 3: I mean if you saw you saw what is it

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Speaker 2: You probably get in some deep places out there in La.

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Speaker 1: Dude. I feel like cities like La Chicago, New York

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Speaker 5: was she? Yeah, But it was just like traffic sucks

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Speaker 5: where do you hang out people? So it does get small,

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Speaker 2: You can get lost with all that stardom and celebrity type.

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Speaker 1: Like you go down to Nashville, you go down Broadway

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Speaker 1: like that's the main spot, but you can split off

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a big small town.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, So like I see the same people all

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Speaker 1: in my movie. Yeah what I'm saying, that's a good description.

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Speaker 1: It sounds because you're never gonna see those people again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you say your sister lives there?

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Speaker 4: She does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she wrote Okay, so I know this about your sister.

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Speaker 2: She wrote. Was she the writer?

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Speaker 4: She was not the writer?

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Speaker 3: What was she for Cicario? The producer for Cicario? What

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's done a lot. The first one that she

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Speaker 5: kind of got going on was PS I Love You, which.

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Speaker 4: Is a movie with Hillary Swink that was that was

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Speaker 4: probably fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Years, such a phenomenal Movivie, such a great movie.

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Speaker 5: Butler, Butler, She's got some great stories about different actors

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Speaker 4: She'd probably be more interested in me on this thing.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, put yourself in a hole, man, yeah, yourself

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Speaker 5: And it's hard because you basically you're letting everybody in

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Speaker 5: it's like, oh, well, will Taylor, you guys, you're terrible.

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Speaker 5: No, It's like that's tough, I mean, because you guys

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Speaker 3: Or that dude walks back to his group and he's like,

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Speaker 2: Like he's like, yeah, I mean I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: But I remember seeing that, like, dude, because Kirk, dude,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you kind of do that whole compared they like,

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Speaker 1: You've kept such a low profile. And do you even

440
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Speaker 1: have social media? Like do you have it?

441
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Speaker 5: Just just for the Instagram account that I use privately,

442
00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,800
Speaker 5: just because I've got such a big family and it

443
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:40,880
Speaker 5: helps me keep up with friends.

444
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Speaker 4: But I didn't, like I've thought about getting off it.

445
00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,040
Speaker 5: I barely ever post. My wife will post stuff, but yeah,

446
00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,840
Speaker 5: and that's really just to keep up with people, because

447
00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,640
Speaker 5: like you know, you lose touch with some people from

448
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 5: college and like they move away, like, oh.

449
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Speaker 4: So and so is like had another kid or whatever.

450
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Speaker 5: It is like sadly you find out about some people

451
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Speaker 5: that way to keep in touch and then it reminds you,

452
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,359
Speaker 5: like I'll shoot shoot my buddy at text down and

453
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 5: talked to him a while.

454
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

455
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But the Twitter stuff, because it's the same thing

456
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,359
Speaker 5: you guys do, Like if you start letting that stuff

457
00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 5: seep in your mind, it can paralyze you as a play.

458
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Speaker 4: Caller, as a coach, and you start like affecting it.

459
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,639
Speaker 5: Like we all need constructive criticism, right, But if you're

460
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,800
Speaker 5: sitting there trying to please the masses, and there's actually

461
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Speaker 5: been studies shown that Twitter is just a loud echo

462
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Speaker 5: chamber of the minority.

463
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Speaker 4: So it's all a bunch of group think and if.

464
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Speaker 5: Right one way, or if you said something controversial, and

465
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Speaker 5: then you've got all these people and they're not trying

466
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Speaker 5: to paint you as the worst person in the world.

467
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Speaker 5: But most people, majority of people don't feel that way.

468
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Speaker 2: Because it's a silent majority.

469
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's companies react to that stuff all the

470
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Speaker 5: time like one incident like or one bad actor or

471
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 5: one bad experience in the company. And then also the

472
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Speaker 5: fundamentally change everything because of a Twitter mob. That good,

473
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Speaker 5: but in the long term it's really a flawed business

474
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Speaker 5: model and you can basically alienate fifty percent of your

475
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Speaker 5: customers right away.

476
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Speaker 2: No, you're right. Do you think coaches look into that

477
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Speaker 2: stuff sometimes?

478
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Speaker 1: Out, no question, du Everyone's human, and if you're a

479
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Speaker 1: person of status or a person that has some some

480
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Speaker 1: sort of a following, you're always like people are so

481
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 1: receptive to the negative than they are to the positive. Sure,

482
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,640
Speaker 1: because you hear a positive thing and you're like, yeah, okay, cool,

483
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,160
Speaker 1: Oh that makes you feel good, But like a negative feeling,

484
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 1: a negative comment makes you feel like it has such

485
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Speaker 1: a more of a dramatic effect on you that it's

486
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Speaker 1: like it can consume people. Just like you're saying, yeah,

487
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 1: but you got to be smarter about the stuff. I

488
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Speaker 1: try to I try to stay off all that. But

489
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man like I fall suit, dude,

490
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Speaker 1: I've yeah, I've googled my name, of course I have.

491
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Speaker 1: I bet you learned the Twitter search and people, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: they bring up a whole bunch of stuff. And the

493
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Speaker 1: worst part about it is is if you did do

494
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Speaker 1: something in the past, people want to comment and think

495
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Speaker 1: they know the entire story, when when it's probably not

496
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Speaker 1: even true whatever whatever it is, you know, And I mean,

497
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Speaker 1: I know I have situations like that from college and

498
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 1: high school and everything, and people like he's a terrible guy.

499
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 1: It's like, do you get to know me first? You

500
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It takes a little bit of time,

501
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,719
Speaker 1: but people people want to throw opinions out, especially on

502
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Speaker 1: social media, Like you talk to somebody, if you and

503
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Speaker 1: you and I met for the first time, I'm not

504
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Speaker 1: gonna be like this is how I feel. Yeah, and

505
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: people but like if I walked away out on Twitter, yeah,

506
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: like Arthur Smith, I feel this way. You're a terrible coach,

507
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 1: You're this, you're that, And it's like, you know, a

508
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of keyboard warriors out there, baby, that's the thing, man,

509
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: don't be a keyboard warrior.

510
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Speaker 5: Well that's the other thing too, is like nothing goes

511
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Speaker 5: away now. So if like say you did have like

512
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Speaker 5: you said something in the high school, you see it

513
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 5: the draft all the time.

514
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Speaker 4: They pull up these tweets. These kids think when they're.

515
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Speaker 5: Like twelve or thirteen, that like God, who knows how

516
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Speaker 5: you thought when you're twelve or thirteen.

517
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Speaker 2: And you all know how we thought.

518
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

519
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Speaker 5: So like you bring up the worst moment in somebody's

520
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Speaker 5: life and then it follows them when it really is

521
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Speaker 5: like you're basically saying somebody can never change, which is

522
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Speaker 5: so flawed. Like think out different we all are from

523
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Speaker 5: when you're twelve, eighteen, your first year in the NFL

524
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Speaker 5: to where you are now.

525
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Speaker 4: No question, you definitely evolve as humans.

526
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Speaker 5: So when people sit there and they bring and they

527
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Speaker 5: just rake people over, the calls over like they crucify

528
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 5: them all some high school stuff exactly, and like, yeah,

529
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Speaker 5: they probably shouldn't have said it, they did, but that

530
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Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're a horrible person. To your point, like

531
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Speaker 5: they just want to and that follows some people from

532
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Speaker 5: wherever they go, and it's.

533
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Speaker 3: And they stay pissed off if they don't feel like

534
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: we need it, We need to hear an apology publicly.

535
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's just like, dude, I'll get a reaction

536
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Speaker 4: out of you.

537
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what I'm showing power over you because

538
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 5: you said something off the coff and I'm offended.

539
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Speaker 4: So you need to apologize. I will make you apologize.

540
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: It's like that's it's a lot of people.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely, And I think that people have a

542
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 1: lot of like what is it they feel it's so

543
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: entitled nowadays, like hey, my my feelings are hurt, so

544
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm entitled to whatever whatever, you know, an apology or

545
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: a safe space and stuff like that. And then reality

546
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Speaker 1: is like, dude, ship doesn't go people's way all the time,

547
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Speaker 1: and you gotta like, like, I know it's a touchy subject,

548
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: but the participation trumphy thing, like if you go and

549
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: you get second place, well that dude, that's silver, you know.

550
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: If you get first, that's gold, if you get third,

551
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: that's bronze, and then after that it's done, you know.

552
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: And it's like it definitely I know how he can

553
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Speaker 1: people can see it as like, oh, it'll take building

554
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: kids and you want to build them up and stuff

555
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: like that, because you absolutely do. Kids kids now more

556
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: than ever, need confidence, but they also need to understand

557
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: what adversity is and if you don't do well in

558
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: something that you need to get either work harder, reevaluate

559
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing and make a couple of changes and

560
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Speaker 1: and and move forward and progress so you can get

561
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Speaker 1: to that silver they get to that gold.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's preaching.

563
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Speaker 1: It's tough.

564
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Speaker 5: It goes back to what you said, handle failure, got

565
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Speaker 5: to handle failure, And I get it. You're like, you

566
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Speaker 5: don't want to crush a kid when he's six because

567
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Speaker 5: they're all different.

568
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Speaker 4: Like I watch my son right now.

569
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Speaker 5: He's one of the younger kids on his teams, and

570
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Speaker 5: kids develop at different ages, right to make a judgment,

571
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Speaker 5: and some some dad thinks his kid's going to the

572
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Speaker 5: NBA and he six years olds, like, hey, buddy, god.

573
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Speaker 4: It's probably yeah.

574
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Speaker 5: You know, they get all they get all prideful because

575
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Speaker 5: their kids can make a basket.

576
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Speaker 4: It's like, hey, just let them, let them develop.

577
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: But you also don't want the kid to have such

578
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Speaker 5: a bad experience where like the coach is going nuts

579
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Speaker 5: at a fifth and six fifth or five and six

580
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Speaker 5: year old basketball game, where the kid that becomes disinterested.

581
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Speaker 5: So it's a fine line, but you're right the like

582
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 5: you gotta be able to hand failure. You want to

583
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Speaker 5: build them up, have a good experience.

584
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Speaker 3: And especially when everything gets pulled at the end of

585
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: the day, like you're gonna enter the real world and

586
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Speaker 3: you can paint the kid the growing up however you want.

587
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Speaker 2: But the real world is cutthroat.

588
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you're trying to make it and stuff like,

589
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: it's business. It's business man like in any in any area,

590
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: once you get to a certain level, it's all business

591
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Speaker 3: and how you perform.

592
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine how your sister feels doing that stuff,

593
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: Like there's everyone's a producer. Yeah, that guy's right there

594
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Speaker 1: as a producer. You know what I'm saying, right, and

595
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Speaker 1: like for her go and make it the way she did.

596
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Speaker 1: Like people go to school just to be a producer,

597
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Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, what are you going

598
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Speaker 1: to fall back on?

599
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Speaker 4: Right?

600
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Speaker 1: You know?

601
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, it is, but you know it's goes back.

602
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Speaker 5: Like I think it's whether you want to really live

603
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 5: life and enjoy and put yourself out of there, you're

604
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Speaker 5: just gonna hide in the shadows the whole time. Yeah,

605
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Speaker 5: And like when you do a profession, you two guys do,

606
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Speaker 5: you definitely put yourself out there.

607
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Speaker 4: So she had those experiences and it goes back.

608
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Speaker 5: I don't imagine at some point from middle school through

609
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 5: college you had it.

610
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Speaker 4: That's some adversity you had to overcome. Whether it's yeah, U,

611
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna purough this.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be something as dramatic as like

613
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Speaker 1: a professional sport either. Like if you're working a nine

614
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Speaker 1: to five job, dude, and you're just absolutely miserable on

615
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Speaker 1: a day to day basis, and you're good at baking

616
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Speaker 1: or you're good you're good at making pastries, Like maybe

617
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Speaker 1: you can go and put yourself out there like that,

618
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You start a little hobby,

619
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Speaker 1: Like it's so easy now, like to make a website

620
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Speaker 1: or do any of that stuff, and just to put

621
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Speaker 1: yourself out there. Just put the things out there, because

622
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Speaker 1: all it takes you is one person to retweet it

623
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Speaker 1: or like it, and then that's That's the good thing

624
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: about social media is it gives people an outlet of imagination.

625
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: You can go and you can get on Twitter and

626
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: you can see what people across the world are doing

627
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: that you didn't get to see thirty years ago or

628
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Speaker 1: whatever what ninety six when the Internet was invented, you know,

629
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: and so like it doesn't have and we alwayspeak about dramatics, right,

630
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Speaker 1: We talked about pro athletes, we talk about actors, we

631
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: talk about rock stars. Professional coaching, those like professional coaching

632
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: like NFL coaching. Those kinds of things are it's easy

633
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Speaker 1: to say, yeah, put yourself out there and do it.

634
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Speaker 1: But like if your passion's baking or or woodworking or

635
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Speaker 1: like or you know, you want to open up a bar,

636
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Speaker 1: then you just gotta you just gotta go do it.

637
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Speaker 1: And like you're gonna you're gonna stumble and you're gonna fall,

638
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: but that you just got to keep on pressing forward

639
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: and eventually you'll find your way or your niche that

640
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Speaker 1: I'll get you to that point, right right.

641
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Speaker 5: That's a great point. I mean, look at this town,

642
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Speaker 5: looking at on all of the restaurants that have opened

643
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 5: up here. It's competitive, as i'd imagine. I mean, I

644
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 5: don't know that world, but i'd imagine if you're a

645
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Speaker 5: chef in Nashville, you're.

646
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Speaker 1: Opening the first six months, most of those places shut

647
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Speaker 1: down like that, right right, It's it's wild.

648
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Speaker 4: People trying to sabotage you. In the reviews.

649
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were, we were talking about your sister. How

650
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Speaker 3: many siblings do you have?

651
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Speaker 4: I want to ten?

652
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Speaker 2: What what holy ship?

653
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Speaker 1: That's a busy man.

654
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

655
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Speaker 1: Boys? Like how many boys? Girls?

656
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Speaker 6: Uh?

657
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: Three boys? Seven girls?

658
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Speaker 5: So my dad had had two daughters from a previous marriage.

659
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Speaker 5: My mom had one and then they got married and

660
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Speaker 5: they're still married and there's seven of us.

661
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

662
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, my mom's big Catholic.

663
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: I don't know what my dad is.

664
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: Never met my father. That's a joke for both of us.

665
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, that's yeah, that's crazy. One of ten kids.

666
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: How did you get any attention from your parents when

667
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: you were younger?

668
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: It probably helped me because I didn't care.

669
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 5: Like I tell you, the one thing I did do

670
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 5: and this is the way I was when I was little.

671
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 5: So my mom, my mom was awesome, like if you,

672
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: if you guys ever came to Memphis and like you

673
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 5: needed to, like I wanted to go by and get

674
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Speaker 5: it me.

675
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: I mean she would feed everybody. So like my house

676
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: growing up was pure chaos.

677
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and in a good way where friends were always

678
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: allowed over. I had a bunch of cousins, like constant people.

679
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 5: My mom would always feed you know, feed you like it.

680
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 5: It was like a great place and it probably helped

681
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 5: me in this job because like I love the chaos,

682
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 5: I love people like That's what's helped me coach. I

683
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 5: love football in the relationships you build. But it's no,

684
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: it was it was a great household to grow up in.

685
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: Are you what are you? Where are you at the

686
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: oldest youngest, I'm the fourth youngest.

687
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Make sure that Mike's work in front of your face.

688
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you're you know, you're good.

689
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: You can get comfy too, just making sure. Yeah, I

690
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: want to hear you. Got to get some good ship

691
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: to say, get the mic here, got to get Who

692
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: would you say right in front of your face?

693
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Who would you say?

694
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: Is the more?

695
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: The most? Uh? The most? I don't want to say successful,

696
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: but like the you know, is it your sister?

697
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

698
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: Like, are you like a fan boy when she's producing

699
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: a movie?

700
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: Like say, when Ccario two is coming out, are you like, hey, sis,

701
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: so is uh Sacario two coming to the works?

702
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 5: Like, well, I've been crushing her about like Icario three.

703
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 5: Really yeah, they're right now.

704
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, you're right there right now.

705
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I tell you. It was a really Benicia adult.

706
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 5: Toro was a really cool guy. I went to the premiere.

707
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: Oh dude, that's awesome.

708
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: So I want him and Josh Brolin are awesome, so

709
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: you have to meet him. Yeah, And they were just

710
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: like real some people you meet out there.

711
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: You know, they're so used to the bubble they're in

712
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 5: and they get their view.

713
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: Distorted, but they were real people.

714
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so dude, that's awesome. Me and Del he's like

715
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: an intimidating looking cat.

716
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: That's what we got.

717
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 5: I'll get my sister to come on here and try

718
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: to like fish away. And have you been telling me

719
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 5: for like three years you're trying to put us together?

720
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 4: I will.

721
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: To me is like I got to get you and

722
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: my sister together. Man, I play the I play the

723
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: best security guard.

724
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, just get like, yeah, be fine.

725
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: Like I've always wanted to be in like a like

726
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 5: a roadhouse remake, dude, like a bar.

727
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 4: Scene, and.

728
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you ask to be to do that stuff?

729
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: My brother's I've never done it. Yeah, my brother played

730
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: a bouncer actually, I think he was in p S.

731
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: I Love You.

732
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: And then my younger one like he'll play an extra

733
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: like he's done this and he's played like an extra

734
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 5: like the crowd oh yeah, or like he tries to

735
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 5: get like the cool stuff where he's like the guy

736
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 5: that's like kicking the door in it or something like that.

737
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't see, and your sister's just like yeah,

738
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: all right, God Yeah.

739
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: She just kind of like you gotta imagine that your

740
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: circles going to like, so hey man, you know.

741
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Spot being a producer. You gotta be like you're producing.

742
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to be an extra and like

743
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 5: it's just a ridiculous like bar fight scene or something.

744
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Dude, that'd be so awesome. We go have a great

745
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: season this year and then we catch you in Sacario three.

746
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: If you were in it.

747
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: The way you're going right now, you'd be the best. No,

748
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: it'd be like you she se.

749
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: Fucking Arthur's see just now he's in movies and now

750
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: he's in movies.

751
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: You're like, what can't you do?

752
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: Has a banger year and now he's in movies.

753
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, killing it's like a bottle over the head, you know,

754
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 5: I've always want to do that, Like you got to

755
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: retake that one.

756
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Like I know, well if you they if you can

757
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: get the bottom of that bottle cut out, it breaks

758
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: super easy. Someone showed me that at a party one time.

759
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: They like filled it up halfway with water and you

760
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: hold like the neck of the bottle and you like

761
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: hit it real hard on the top and it like

762
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: just pops off the bottom of the bottle and then

763
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: you crack it over somebody's head doesn't hurt at all.

764
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna try it. We'll go, we'll figure it out,

765
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: just like a video doing it right now, trying to

766
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: do it right now.

767
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can find a volunteer.

768
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, we got a couple back there that might

769
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: take a bottle. Dude, who knows Matt'll cut his dick

770
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: off for a Super Bowl Dude, we can probably get

771
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: him to hit a bottle over his head. We can

772
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: probably figure that out. That's why, dude, that's why. Like,

773
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: that's one thing that I think I'm definitely interested in

774
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: is going and kind of throwing my hat in the

775
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: ring in the whole LA scene. But that stuff's intimidating,

776
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: and also it's so time consuming. Like guys like Dain

777
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: the Rock Johnson, how does he have a family, Like.

778
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: He's always doing Kevin Hart, those guys like they're just

779
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: they're always always doing something.

780
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: Make you feel lazy, I tell you, yeah, it's you

781
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 5: gotta get the point where you're like Tom Hanks, where

782
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: like you come out for the big hitters and then

783
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: Nick he disappears for a while and comes back and disappears.

784
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't do like Woody and yeah, just does Woody

785
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: and goes out of there. Yeah, you got those movies

786
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: like Castaway or like The Revenant where you're it's you're

787
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: just kind of like acting by yourself the whole movie.

788
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: Really talented.

789
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: You gotta be really talented.

790
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: I am legends Will Smith.

791
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impressive. Will Smith is unbelievable. Yeah, Will Smith

792
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: or Denzel Washington. Who's a better actor?

793
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: I think Denzel I think is the best.

794
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: Lot. I got a lot of people that say Will Smith,

795
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you I'll have a little argument there.

796
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Will Smith is good at everything. He can do comedy,

797
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: he can do serious, he can do everything in between.

798
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: Denzel is Denzel and everything. What was he not?

799
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: What was he not?

800
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: Juice? Have you seen?

801
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 6: Have you seen John Q?

802
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: That movie made me cry, Dude, I lost my mind.

803
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: That's when his son had a heart heart too big tasty, hostage.

804
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: Mind pulling out the Denzel Washington movies.

805
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: You're curious because I'm thinking in my head training Neeson,

806
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: who's like the same guy and everyone.

807
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: Bill Ted's excellent Adventure, Like he was definitely a different

808
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: character there, But you got to see them. You have

809
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: seen that or Oh yeah, a great.

810
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Movie, great one equalizer. Remember the Titans, John Q. Yeah,

811
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: deja vu.

812
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: He's always got a moment where he gets like worked

813
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: up and some like passionate.

814
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love it, dude, I mean yeah, American gangster.

815
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. It could have been

816
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot better.

817
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: When he goes and takes the money from the dude

818
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: in the street, like, hey, you owe me money, what

819
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: you gonna forget his name? He's like, what you're gonna do?

820
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: And you gon shoot me right here in the street,

821
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: puts a gun up to his head. What's you gonna do, Frank,

822
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: you gonna shoot me right here in front all these people?

823
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: Huh. That was a good little dead dude.

824
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: What do we got here?

825
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: You could definitely make an argument that he's he's the

826
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: depth that Will Smith I give you that.

827
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't see fence.

828
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 6: That was like a Broadway It's a play. Yeah, it's

829
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 6: it's a it's a play. It's like one. It's like

830
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 6: in the backyard, and he's phenomenal. And he plays this

831
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: like like really mean, hateful father and it's it's incredible.

832
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: He does a good job. He won a Tony for that.

833
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: Didn't he or he had something he he want something.

834
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Magnificent seven was a good movie.

835
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: You mind clicking on the Book of Eli.

836
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: That was a solid kind of acted by alone in

837
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: that one, and it had.

838
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Me lakuon Is in it. Who I'm a big fan of. Dude.

839
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: That's probably my Hollywood crush.

840
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: My sister worked on that one, which was my brother. Yeah,

841
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: my brother was an extra.

842
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: She just got no booty though. Man, we're on a

843
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: hot spot busting. Dude, you're on a hotspot.

844
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: What do you think of all this stuff? I love?

845
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what do you think of the podcast? Man?

846
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: I think you talking about fear of failure and stuff.

847
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: It's also getting nervous any time we're just on here

848
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: that we're doing this thing.

849
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: There's definitely there's definitely a thing where you're like, ship, dude,

850
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: are we are we good enough?

851
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: Like?

852
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Are we doing this? People actually didn't give a ship

853
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: what we're talking about?

854
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: Right?

855
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: You kind of put yourself out there like that's another

856
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: the whole fear of failure ship that we were talking.

857
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: About it, But it's original.

858
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: It's all that you walk in here and I met,

859
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: I pulled up. I was like, either I'm in the

860
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: wrong place. It's gonna be a really weird night for me.

861
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 5: It's gonna be awesome, you know. And then like when

862
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: I saw the light on, I was like, all right,

863
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: I'm in the right place.

864
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: It's all the boys right there.

865
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: But I mean it could have been like, yeah, you

866
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 5: got the tarps in the back of the heat.

867
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: It's like I've seen from True Detective.

868
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, Dirty Mic and the boys from the other guys, Yeah,

869
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: we will have sex in your car.

870
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: Thanks for the sex shack and the boys love dirty.

871
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: What is all this stuff right here? I never knew existed.

872
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: There was a guy painting something when try not to

873
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: hit his thing, he had like.

874
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: It's a dude, it's a crazy setup in here. They

875
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: had like cardboard films is in here. Yeah, and they

876
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: do like they do all the production stuff. They got

877
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: like a welding they like a welding classes. They have

878
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: a workshop back there. Coffee acts throwing. There's a coffee shop, dude.

879
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: There's people that sell art.

880
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: That's what I saw.

881
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: There's like a Neon sign, dude of a banana. It's like,

882
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: but it looks real as hell, is it. It's so

883
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: it was like what eighteen hundred bucks.

884
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, and now there's a you know, the Flaming.

885
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: And make that, make that bigger so you can see it.

886
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 6: You ever heard of the Flaming Lips. The Flaming Lips, Yeah.

887
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: The band.

888
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 6: No, I mean you should listen to them. But they

889
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 6: paid ten grand to get that. It's the lead singer's artwork.

890
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: They pay ten grand to get it put here, and

891
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 6: it's fantastic.

892
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: Ten this nice fun out of here. Man trying to

893
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: find I was trying.

894
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: To see who did this movie?

895
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 5: If you if you don't mind, because I can't remember

896
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 5: what part where my sister was working, because she definitely

897
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 5: worked on this one.

898
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Oh a mental fire, not a man on fire? Was

899
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: book at you?

900
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the wrong one.

901
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: It's all over the place with this thing he work in.

902
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: We can figure out whatever.

903
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: A little bit of adversity.

904
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know of the artwork?

905
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: Have you been hit up now as you're getting older,

906
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 5: If you had to buy any art for your house,

907
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 5: that's a whole different that's a whole different part.

908
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: You feel that big deal. Baby, You're gonna.

909
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 4: Get some differ person.

910
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 5: But this is just like you're talking about growing like older,

911
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 5: like stuff I never thought about where I feel like

912
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: I get fleeced on artwork.

913
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: You think soli art gets you.

914
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not like I I'm very like artistic. No,

915
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: I'm not.

916
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 5: My wife is, and you know, so I'll go with

917
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: her to like look at artwork. So when you get

918
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 5: your house, it's like, oh, we need to get it

919
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: at artwork. And like every year it's like you're out

920
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 5: a piece and it's like I pushed this more. We're

921
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 5: gonna get it. We need this beast like all right,

922
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 5: well what is it worth? And you're like, oh my god, yeah,

923
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: that's what the value is.

924
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've had to if that's hit

925
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: one of you guys.

926
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: I haven't had I haven't had a lot of art.

927
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: But I did have a situation. We did a charity

928
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: event for Home Street Home. It was me and Thomas Rhett.

929
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: We put on this this charity event for this thing

930
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: for people, the homeless people in Nashville and stuff like that,

931
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: which it was awesome. But there was this girl there

932
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: and I gotta figure out her name. I can probably

933
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: look it up, thank you, Sidney Clausa. She is incredible.

934
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: So she was there and uh, while people like were

935
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: just hanging out. It was less than an hour. She

936
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: did a portrait of Clint Eastwood and in one of

937
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: his movies. I don't know which movie specifically it was,

938
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of Western movies, but he's

939
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: got the cowboy hat on everything and it looks incredible

940
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: and uh like that that is cool stuff to me.

941
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: When I see two eggs pushed against each other and

942
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: people are sitting there with a glass of wine, They're like,

943
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: to me, this is life because you have to lean

944
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: on each other for help.

945
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: I crack and the egg nversity.

946
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: This this this art is sexual and violent. Like I

947
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: don't I don't get it, but dude, I saw that

948
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and we bid on it and ended up doing like

949
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: it was like twenty thousand dollars. Yeah, raised, we raised.

950
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: We ended up raising sixty because she do it so fast.

951
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: Me.

952
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: It was me, Thomas Rhet and Jason on Dean and

953
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: we were we were like all the three of us

954
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: betting on it or whatever, bidding on it. And Rett

955
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: like leans over and he's like like if we can

956
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: just get like hurt him, make two more, like we

957
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: can get this off for twenty yeah, and like we

958
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: like asked her if she said she totally do it.

959
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: So we ended up spent twenty thousand dollars on a portrait,

960
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. But it's dude, it's awesome and she's

961
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: so talented it's crazy.

962
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: Man.

963
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, but like, what is art? You know, it's

964
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: all it's all a super relative Sydney Clausen. Yeah, she's incredible, man.

965
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: She she does a lot of good work. But what

966
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: have you been snaked into? I've had to go a

967
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: couple of Jackson Pollocks or what you got going on?

968
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you the nudies in the house.

969
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: No, I don't have that Banksy running around there. Dude,

970
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: that Banksy photo of the dudes from Pulp Fiction holding

971
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: the bananas. It's a great that's a great little deal there.

972
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: I loved banks dude. I think the coolest thing about

973
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: banks is no one knows who he is. Yeah, he's

974
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: like under the wraps all the time.

975
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

976
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: No, it's a I've gone to those art shows and

977
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: I've tried, like you know, it's like, hey, I'm trying

978
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: to appreciate people's work, because people put a lot of

979
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: work it. But I have no idea what something's worth,

980
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 5: but that's not bad. And you look it's like, oh,

981
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 5: that's only one hundred dollars and I'm like that's awful.

982
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: It's like that's ten grand.

983
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Like yeah, right, yeah, it's all it's all relative to

984
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: what you think is cool, right, Like, I see, I

985
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: don't know who's the guy that cut his ear off?

986
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: Oh to my band, go Mike Tyson.

987
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: I was at that fight. No, you weren't in Memphis, right.

988
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: You might want to FactCheck me, but I'm almost the

989
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: pyramids a pyramid.

990
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there. Get the hell out of here, Lewis.

991
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: I remember I was in college in Memphis.

992
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: Tyson Holyfield too, because everybody thought like, Okay, Tyson will

993
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: get him this time.

994
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: He just bit his damn ear off.

995
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Tyson was a psychopath back in the day.

996
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: If you watch that fight though, a back that's.

997
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: Two was in. One of them was in Memphis, wasn't it.

998
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, Ship, you said you were there, so I'm sure

999
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: I was.

1000
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: At a text fight, but I'm almost one't where.

1001
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: He bit his ear off.

1002
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in the pyramid, Lennox Lewis.

1003
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you watch that, no, it's Holyfield. If

1004
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 6: you watch that fight Holyfields, like head budding him the

1005
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 6: whole time. So I understand you.

1006
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: Would have bit the ship out of his ear to Jo,

1007
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: I understand.

1008
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 6: Why he was mad, man, I really, I really do.

1009
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 4: Y know.

1010
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson was on Joe Rogan's podcast and it was

1011
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: it was pretty He's got his own podcast too.

1012
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: I know we need to get Mike tython on this one.

1013
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: My fact check was wrong. I was at that Tyson,

1014
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: the one in the pyramid with Lewis Lennox.

1015
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Lewis Lewiss. Did he win that one?

1016
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Boy? Coach Coach Smith's got that CTE?

1017
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: Maybe ct But I was in college and I don't

1018
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: remember a lot of that fight.

1019
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: To be honest with.

1020
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, the couple of beers. Man, that'll think all

1021
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: the memories.

1022
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Just get hammer, just think like it's Tyson. Man, it's

1023
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 2: not gonna last that long. Yeah.

1024
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 6: Do you guys want to have a frank conversation about CTE.

1025
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: I think that would be really interesting. You kind of

1026
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: want to. There's not enough education to have like.

1027
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: A yeah, there won't be no education.

1028
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: Do we joke about it, and it's pure jokes, so

1029
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: don't get too serious.

1030
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about ct is I

1031
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: had when I got knocked out in the Miami game.

1032
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: I was meeting with doctors and they said, you know,

1033
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, early two thousands, you'd get

1034
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: hit and then and then you'd go back and you

1035
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: get hit hit. It's kind of like an ankle, Like

1036
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: you keep stacking those injuries on top of that ankle,

1037
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: adventure gonna have a bum ankle. And so their their

1038
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: claim was is that because where they're taking time for

1039
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: things to heal now and taking care of stuff, that

1040
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a huge issue for our generation

1041
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: and and and in the future too that. But like

1042
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: but as far as like evidence all that, I don't

1043
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: have it. I have nothing for you. I just think.

1044
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's as far as CT as I know.

1045
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's like if I'm forgetful around the house

1046
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: or if I'm forgetful everywhere, because I am, I'm just like,

1047
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 3: you know, babe, I got CT pure jokes.

1048
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: Dude.

1049
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell I'll tell Willi's story sometimes and he'll be like, yeah,

1050
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: but I heard it. He'll he'll he'll walk away. See

1051
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: he's a real thing.

1052
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: He's a real thing.

1053
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: It's a very sensitive subject and if you.

1054
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: Said something, it could be headlined.

1055
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. But man, so you went to you went

1056
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: to North Carolina.

1057
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: Did you have how many stuff?

1058
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: How many how many offers did you have coming out

1059
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: of high school? Oh? Hold on, I'll let that load

1060
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: for a second. We'll go back to that a second.

1061
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I end up having too late. And so

1062
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 5: so when I grew probably going my junior year, I

1063
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 5: was getting recruited by.

1064
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: When I was in high school in DC. So I'm

1065
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: from Memphis. I end up going high school in DC,

1066
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: and then I was.

1067
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: Probably about six two ish, about two forty, so it

1068
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: was a lot of those like Patriot Lee schools like

1069
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: recruiting me. And then I just ended up growing a

1070
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: little bit by I answered more and then I was

1071
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 5: like thirty pounds bigger. So by the end of it,

1072
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: some of the bigger schools got on me.

1073
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: And it was a strange recruitment because I got I

1074
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: remember Carl Torbush, she was.

1075
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 5: The head coach in Carolina, called me and offered me

1076
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 5: the night before he got fired. He's like, I'm offering

1077
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: a scholarship, but I may not have my job tomorrow.

1078
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: I was like, thanks, Like.

1079
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate that appreciate that.

1080
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: But the guy that was an old line coach named

1081
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 5: Robbie Caldwell who had a who actually was at Vannerbilt,

1082
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 5: was the head coach at Vannerbilt for years at Clemson.

1083
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: Now Robbie got he got kept by I got named

1084
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 5: John Bunning. Bunning was my college coach, so he was

1085
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: the reason I ended up going to R Carolina. I

1086
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: wanted to go to Georgia Tech and Bill O'Brien was

1087
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 5: recruiting at Georgia Tech wing tea no before that, Okay, yeah,

1088
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 5: and uh, I actually went down to my official visit.

1089
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 5: I was waiting for him to offer, and they was

1090
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 5: like trying to get me a walk on. I was

1091
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 5: waiting waiting that's where I wanted to go, and they

1092
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 5: didn't offer me. So I was waiting in Carolina did

1093
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: and then I end up calling Bill O'Brien. I was like, Hey,

1094
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to North Carolina. I remember he like

1095
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 5: wasn't too you know, happy, I'm like, never offered me.

1096
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 5: But small world.

1097
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: Then you get back in this profession and the running

1098
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: these people again.

1099
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how like things just shrink up as

1100
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: the far the more you get into that kind of stuff.

1101
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: Like I said, Tim Bruser, he's at North Carolina right now. Yeah,

1102
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not the head coach, but he's

1103
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: he's a coach there, and he was the head coach

1104
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: at Minnesota. My old man went to Minnesota and so

1105
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: and he off he offered me a scholarship. And I

1106
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: remember sitting in his office and he like calls over

1107
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: his uh like the compliance people, and he's like, hey,

1108
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: what's the deal, Like, how do I offer this guy

1109
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: a scholarship? Like am I allowed to right now? And

1110
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there like just kind of hanging out,

1111
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: just sitting at a desk. And they're like, well, technically

1112
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: you have to wait till he leaves the premises. Blah

1113
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: blah blah. He goes, listen, we're gonna offer you a

1114
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: scholarship as soon as you walk out here. Okay. I

1115
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: was like, to we leave now. It was awake, small world,

1116
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: small one. And the reason why, yeah, I was gonna

1117
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: say the reason why that was a small world just

1118
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: because that he was at practice last week and he

1119
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: came over and gave me a bake handshake. We were

1120
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: gonna get you.

1121
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the head coach who did you play for

1122
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: in North Carolina?

1123
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 4: And John Bunning who had played in North Carolina.

1124
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: He was my linebacker coach at our senior when I

1125
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: the NFL p a game.

1126
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know he was my linebacker coach. Yeah,

1127
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: old school.

1128
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: Though he played in the seventies a different areas about

1129
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: the NFL. He had some wild stories. Yeah, by playing

1130
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 5: the seventies wild.

1131
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: So you gotta Getruss Grimm on here sometimes. But you

1132
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: and Russ, I'd love that Rus to selling to So yeah,

1133
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: definitely put on like tell Sully.

1134
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: Would that be fun?

1135
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: Because I know his son Chad Grim he's at the

1136
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Redskins ud.

1137
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: Russ is literally maybe the coolest coach of all time.

1138
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an American icon.

1139
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 5: If you think of like nineteen eighty six and Pittsburgh,

1140
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: that's Russ Grim.

1141
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.

1142
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: He was the coolest man. He was such a good dude.

1143
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: He tell you the same story three four times. He well,

1144
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: but he was. He was on top of it.

1145
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: He's smart as hell.

1146
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: He's so smart, man, He's so smart. He's such a

1147
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: We play this game where he'd put up a word,

1148
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: like a long word like superfluous and then you'd have

1149
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: a minute to figure out all the words and then

1150
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: you make you make fun of us because he'd be like,

1151
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: oh man, you tell the same story all the time.

1152
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: And he do that word game and he would kill everybody. Yeah,

1153
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: like he'd beat Dennis, and you know, Dennis is mister

1154
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I want to be smart guy. You know what I'm saying.

1155
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: He'd be that guy out there. Man.

1156
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 4: So Russ is so cool. I'll just say about Ross

1157
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: because they're not very if you put who says back

1158
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: he was.

1159
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 5: He would never let you pay for anything. He was

1160
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 5: the most giving person. He was a one man party.

1161
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 5: And I mean that like the highest compliment. Like you

1162
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: went and you wanted to go grab something to eat

1163
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 5: with him, Like he'd gets so pissed at you if

1164
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: you try to pay. That's like he wouldn't let you

1165
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: do it. Yeah, yeah, there's he's I'm glad I got

1166
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 5: to work with him.

1167
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad I know Russ.

1168
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one thing I do when he when whenever

1169
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: he left the Titans, I was like, man, I just

1170
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: need it, give me a kind of a jersey. And

1171
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, absolutely, I'll give you a jersey. The

1172
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: Dogs and then you know, we would buy a couple

1173
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: a month or two, I'm buying. I was like, yeah, yo, Russ,

1174
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: let me get that jersey. Like I texted him. He's like, yeah,

1175
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: you got it, man, some of your dress.

1176
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1177
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: Three weeks go by. Yeah, I end up getting that

1178
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: damn jersey though, I got it now.

1179
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: Somebody told me that one of the d Linemen saw

1180
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 5: him in the airport recently. Yeah, that'd be like the

1181
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 5: four airport. Yeah, I mean, I'd be so fired up

1182
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 5: if I saw him in an airport. That'd be one of

1183
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 5: the greatest like airport sightings, especially.

1184
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: If you had like a two hour, three hour layover. Yeah,

1185
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: man sitting there, dude, after games, him just hanging out

1186
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: in the back of his car, just relaxing, Like those

1187
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: are the coolest parts of the games.

1188
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a different, different era.

1189
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 5: But the thing about Russ is when I worked for

1190
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 5: the Redskins and and oh seven with Joe Gibbs and

1191
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 5: Coach Gibbs had all those guys that been with them

1192
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: in the eighties, and they would tell stories at night.

1193
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: It was awesome, you know, hearing the stories.

1194
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: About the Hogs and going against Lawrence Taylor, in the

1195
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 5: NC East at that time, and they would talk about

1196
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 5: Russ like in this they tell stories about Rus because

1197
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 5: Rus is like everybody's got stories about Russ. Yeah, And

1198
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 5: then I could worked with a guy named Donny Warren.

1199
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 5: Donny Warren was tentley part of the Hogs. He was

1200
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 5: there blocking tight end.

1201
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1202
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 5: He was like the old Craig Stevens for them. For

1203
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 5: the Hawks, he was just yeah, man's man. So Donnie

1204
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 5: would tell me stories about Russ, and Russ was just

1205
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: he was a legend.

1206
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: They had the five o'clock Club. They ever talked about

1207
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: that in DC?

1208
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

1209
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: No?

1210
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: Not.

1211
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 5: The thing a shed And the way Donnie told me

1212
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 5: was they had two different beers, Miller distributor and a

1213
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: and anh Bush distributor, and they both thought they were

1214
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: the official beer drinking the beer of the Hawks. So

1215
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: however they did it, so I assume it was Russ.

1216
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: And they've come in every other week. So on Tuesdays

1217
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 5: they drop it off, the equipment guy put on ice

1218
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 5: and after practice they'd go sit in the shed like Russ,

1219
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: Donnie Warren, Jo Jakobe. They'd sit around, they'd have a

1220
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: couple of beers before they went home.

1221
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: It's called the five o'clock Club.

1222
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: I love that dude.

1223
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: You knew Ko, right, Yeah? You know Ko? Yeah, Yeah,

1224
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: he was my guy.

1225
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 4: For really helped me out.

1226
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: Man, he's with them, he's actually with the floor now

1227
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: he's yeah, he's with the packers.

1228
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 2: He's with the packers, the floor man, one and done.

1229
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, got the head coaching job though. Man, you can't

1230
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: can't get mad at that, dude. Ye yeah, yeah for

1231
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: the packers too, Like how cool? How cool would that be?

1232
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: That'd be wicked?

1233
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: How much did you learn from coach or.

1234
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a lot of guys you mad a

1235
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 5: different experience and might have been in a similar system

1236
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 5: for the whole time. He's been in the NFL. Yeah,

1237
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: and uh, it was good. I enjoyed working with Matt.

1238
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 5: He was like anybody. I mean, you spend so many

1239
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: hours you get to know him.

1240
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: That's a great person.

1241
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we talk about a lot of things, and

1242
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: Matt would here he had strong opinions because he had

1243
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 5: been in one system.

1244
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 4: But he would definitely hear you out with Some guys

1245
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: you work with are so.

1246
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 5: Stubborn and like they think that it's like the Ten

1247
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: Commandments and that's that's what it is, and there's no

1248
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 5: coming off right right, It's not that way.

1249
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: Uh, he'll do well up in Green Bay. But yeah,

1250
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: I enjoyed working with him.

1251
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: Well, there's that one week when we played the Skins

1252
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: that I was in there clock with you guys.

1253
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: So he was definitely like he always asks questions.

1254
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you would see how much, like you know, Blaine,

1255
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: all you guys are in there, I'm sitting there like

1256
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: you know, defensive player, listening to all this terminology the

1257
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: the offensive side and everything, and Matt's like going back

1258
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: and forth, like, you know, do we like this here

1259
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: to be like that there?

1260
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: YadA, YadA, YadA.

1261
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I assume it's it's probably nice, you know,

1262
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: coaching with guys that listen and you know.

1263
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: They're not you always a good person. We're completely different personalities,

1264
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: but as long as you know somebody is a.

1265
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: Good, good person where they're coming from, and that makes

1266
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 5: things a lot easier when you're.

1267
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 4: Working with them.

1268
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1269
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: How uh you know, thinking about thinking about that week

1270
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: and the questions he would ask Blaine like comfort levels

1271
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: of things.

1272
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: How.

1273
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: How important is that you now being in oc that

1274
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: that level of like you have your own ways of

1275
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: growing and evolving and changing little, you know, little wrinkles

1276
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 3: here and there. How important is that for that dialogue

1277
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: with Marcus sitting in the room, because I'm sitting there.

1278
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching Blaine write everything down right that

1279
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: you guys are all talking about. And then it would

1280
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: circle back around the Blane. Hey, Blaine, what do you

1281
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: think of that call here and there? I assume you're

1282
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: trying to gauge the comfort of your quarterback.

1283
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some of that. And then I think Matt

1284
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 5: enjoyed Blaine. You know, Blaine had been in a lot

1285
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 5: of offenses because a lot of those quarterbacks are like

1286
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 5: assistant coaches in so many systems, and if you get somebody,

1287
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 5: Blaine was really smart and he could. He loved it,

1288
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 5: you know, he would sit there and draw up stuff and.

1289
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Love him talk to them.

1290
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 4: So it helps.

1291
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 5: You definitely have to be on the same page as

1292
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: the quarterback. But I also don't lose sight of Taylor's job,

1293
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: like understanding his matchup for the center and the receivers,

1294
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: like I try to look at it. And the thing

1295
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: I think that hurts sometimes in coaching is some of guys,

1296
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 5: guys forget what the game feels like with the helmet.

1297
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like you put stuff in

1298
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 5: and you really want to see it from your perspective,

1299
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 5: because all right, well here's Taylor's world on a play,

1300
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: making sure that, like you don't want to lose sight

1301
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 5: of there may be issues in certain plays, you know,

1302
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 5: gonna be harder than others for certain people. But I

1303
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 5: try to look at every position, do the best I can.

1304
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 5: I won't obviously be perfect, but I do.

1305
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: And maybe it's because of my background, like with the

1306
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 4: line sometimes.

1307
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's just like you realize sometimes you put

1308
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 5: all this stuff in and some people are like, it's

1309
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 5: not that hard, blah blah. I'm like, Okay, well, you're

1310
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 5: sitting in a stance and you've got one of the

1311
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 5: best in the world getting ready rush off the edge,

1312
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 5: and we're asking to make three different decisions before this

1313
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 5: and there's a snap count of play clock going. Yeah,

1314
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 5: so it's and it's gonna be could be two or

1315
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 5: three different things for him to have to do in

1316
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: live action.

1317
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: And live action. Yeah. Yeah, it's for me to say

1318
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 4: that the clicker, That's what.

1319
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. It's quiet like coaches. You know,

1320
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: you sit there and you just watch cut ups, you

1321
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: watch games. You watch it from a just film perspective

1322
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: of getting the video guys to break it down. You're

1323
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: sitting there in the quiet in the room, thinking and

1324
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 3: scheming up everything, and then you get out there and yeah,

1325
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: what you were saying, trying to relate it to how

1326
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: you used to see things and just seeing it from

1327
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: all different perspective I think is important.

1328
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: That's why you watch like live TV copies too.

1329
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 3: Right, because live TV copies I didn't, I personally didn't

1330
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: until this last year. The way vrabel would incorporate stuff.

1331
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: It's like a lot of stuff kind of made more

1332
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: sense to me in that way. Not that we didn't

1333
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: do it on like the Skins or and Surpassed, but

1334
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: you get more of a feel for, I guess what's

1335
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: going on the progression of a game, because you'll watch

1336
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: it in a cut up, right, and you'll you know,

1337
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: you'll make all of your opinions and corrections on like oh,

1338
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: you should have done this and that, But when you

1339
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: see it in a sequence with hearing stuff and the

1340
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: action going on the momentum of the game, you kind.

1341
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: Of see it. I guess in a different light situationally.

1342
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 4: Too, you do.

1343
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 5: I mean, and there's great things you see on those

1344
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 5: all twenty two of the coaches films, and there's stuff

1345
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 5: you see on the TV copies.

1346
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's stuff. You know.

1347
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 5: It's the longer you're in it, the more you see

1348
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 5: a practice live too. It's like you go back and

1349
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 5: think about some of the like old high school coaches.

1350
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 5: Don't know your high school coaches were, but like where

1351
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 5: my high school is two coaches in the last six years,

1352
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 5: and the guy that's that was.

1353
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: Retired had been there forever, like yeah, he would say

1354
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: something to play. I'm like, how do you see all that?

1355
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 4: I can barely see one thing happen.

1356
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: No, it helps, but I try to never to lose

1357
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 5: sight of that, like don't forget what it looked like

1358
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 5: in a face mask.

1359
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, which that's important, That's really important. I mean, yeah,

1360
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: do you gotta may be happy?

1361
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: Ye.

1362
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: That made me happy because it's it's like it is.

1363
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: It is hard when you have people telling you just

1364
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: it's that easy, just do this, just do that, and

1365
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: you're like, dude, like you know, yeah, I always have

1366
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: confidence of what I can do in a game, like

1367
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: for sure, you gotta have confidence, but like sometimes you, dude,

1368
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: like shit gets hard. You know what I'm saying, if if,

1369
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: sometimes all a player needs needs is a coach to

1370
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: acknowledge it and say, hey, look, I know we're asking

1371
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: you to do a lot here, Yes, we gotta lean

1372
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: on you. We gotta lean on you this week for

1373
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: the X, Y and Z. And then you get it

1374
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: in your head you're like, dude, you take a little personally,

1375
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta i gotta put the boys on

1376
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: my back. You know what I'm saying. It's not that serious,

1377
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: but in your head you're like, I gotta I'm, I'm,

1378
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the game this week.

1379
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: Right, But it's just your mindset. It shifts your mindset

1380
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: from like man, they'll just don't get it, to when

1381
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 3: they acknowledge it, you just see it from a different aspect.

1382
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 2: Okay, they get it.

1383
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: Because it'd be like, you know, with coach Tye, he

1384
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: played in the league, uh with at linebacker. So we'd

1385
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: go over and there'd be situations last year and you know,

1386
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: the constance of the room would be like coach Tye,

1387
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: like you kind of repeat it, and then he would

1388
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: hear it and then hear it from the player perspective,

1389
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: and then he would shift to like, oh, I mean yeah,

1390
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: that that.

1391
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: Does make sense. Like it'd be like, you know, coach Tye,

1392
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: like you used to play.

1393
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: Not that long ago, Like yeah, he's seeing doing this

1394
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 3: and that and trying to see this. He'd be like, yeah, yeah,

1395
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: scrap that. Let me talk to you know whoever, and

1396
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: then we'll come back and then they make a transition.

1397
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: So that kind of stuff's important.

1398
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 5: It is, and and it's everybody's perspectives are different. And

1399
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 5: some guys that there have been great players and they

1400
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 5: don't relate as coaches, and you see it in different

1401
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 5: different sports. They just assume this guy's the greatest play

1402
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 5: in the world. He'd be a coach or vice versa.

1403
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 5: Guys never played be an awesome coach, or he'd be terrible.

1404
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 5: Like I think I know the the trending words like

1405
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 5: emotional intelligence, but obviously ty has it, like yeah, and

1406
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: it just goes like you can see things, and that's

1407
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 5: what you can see people, and any guy I think

1408
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 5: goes to people's personality to try to figure things out,

1409
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 5: where some people they're so like hardheaded or fixed. The

1410
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 5: one that does always makes my skin crawl is when

1411
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 5: you get some of these uh little quarterback guys and like,

1412
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 5: this guy's soft, he's so soft. I'm like and I

1413
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 5: rolled my eyes, like I would love to see you

1414
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 5: getting a getting a stance come across on one of

1415
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 5: those swift blocks. See how soft you look like you

1416
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: may they may cry like you know what I'm saying.

1417
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 5: Like that gets my skin crawling when the guy's like

1418
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 5: and sadly that I've seen it at every level.

1419
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 4: I've seen that happen.

1420
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: You know, those sift blocks are nothing to fuck with.

1421
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: Man.

1422
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: That stuff that's hard. That's a hard asset to do.

1423
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: That.

1424
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: You go sift on an inside zone, sift on an

1425
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: outside zone. Then you go sift on like a on

1426
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: like a quarterback, like a play action pass right, and

1427
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: you're one on one with the defensive end.

1428
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pass rusher, the pass rusher.

1429
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: Dude, I would hate to be a tight end of

1430
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: those things. But that's I mean, that's that's what football is.

1431
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Like every place, someone's a harder job than the others.

1432
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 5: From being a linebacker, it's like, hey, here you are

1433
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 5: one on one. Here's Adrian Peterson.

1434
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he wrap him up. Yeah, third down you

1435
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: were on an island with Dion Lewis.

1436
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody's gonna have a hard job and yeah, and

1437
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 5: that's a good part of the game. I think when

1438
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 5: everybody gets involved in and like you know, you know that,

1439
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 5: like but I don't lose sight of it, like I

1440
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 5: would never like this, wouldn't do that like say, oh,

1441
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 5: this guy's soft, like you're not the NFL and the

1442
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 5: guy is gonna.

1443
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: Be no question.

1444
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And sadly, I've heard people say that for and

1445
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: it makes my skin crawl, like.

1446
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good that you have that

1447
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: when you were you were so you've been with this

1448
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 3: is is this your third year.

1449
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: With the Titans.

1450
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: No, this is two thousand and eleven, the ninth, ninth the.

1451
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 4: Ko of Knesse. I always tell KO I was trying

1452
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: to like match his record's record. Well, if I go,

1453
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 4: this is kirk Aalavadatti.

1454
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 3: He actually looks like if you if he they if

1455
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 3: we said Kirkalvadadi was his father, he would make sense.

1456
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: He's person here.

1457
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: But is he handsome?

1458
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: You know it looks like his.

1459
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: Father, I'd say if if he's saying he looks like me,

1460
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: he's gotta be really handsome.

1461
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 3: I guess he's got a harry body, a lot of

1462
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: a lot of test.

1463
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 5: No, but he he got hired I believe by North Turner.

1464
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 5: So go back like the Redskins two thousand Redskins. So

1465
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 5: then Marty Schottenheimer came in for a year, Yeah, two

1466
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 5: thousand and one. Then they hired Steve spur So he

1467
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 5: was Steve Spurger, then Joe Gibbs, then Shanahan, and then

1468
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: he came back with Jay Grutins six. So he's got

1469
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 5: to have the record. And I may be missing like

1470
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: an interim coach there. I think, you know, if he

1471
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: may count Terry Bisky's like interim games. At the end

1472
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 5: of two thousand, Jim orn got I can't play. I

1473
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 5: forgot Jim's orange. I worked for Jim's. That was bad

1474
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 5: oversight by me.

1475
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I apologize in three and nine.

1476
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: No, I don't you should you shouldn't you should have

1477
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: done that? Do your homework.

1478
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 2: I know I should have done my homework way better.

1479
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: When when you when you're talking about putting yourself in

1480
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: other people's shoes, like going back from having that like uh,

1481
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: just kind of being like a quality control guy or

1482
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: whatever your your job was when you got here in

1483
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Are you nicer to those guys now? Because

1484
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: I've seen coaches that have gone through the rings just

1485
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: like everybody else and their dicks. Yeah, that was college.

1486
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: Everything, guys.

1487
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, college football. Gosh, man, depending on some of these

1488
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 5: places you get. I mean it sometimes I felt like

1489
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: working in college was like this is making me an asshole. Yeah,

1490
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 5: you know, just the environments, like depending on where you

1491
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: are and just all I get it all depends you

1492
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 5: work with. Yeah, it goes back to we kind of

1493
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 5: talked about earlier, like the perspective of whe where you

1494
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 5: guys are like like Luke and Chandler, Like, I know

1495
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 5: how harder jobs are, So no, I would never do that.

1496
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: Like if I ever did that, I feel like the biggest.

1497
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you have that.

1498
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 4: It just be yourself. It's just the same thing.

1499
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 5: It's like you don't think you're sweet and awesome because

1500
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 5: you get a new job, Like I don't.

1501
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: I don't view it that way, like, oh, wow, arrived

1502
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 4: this title.

1503
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: There's got to be something hard about like not kind

1504
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: of feeling yourself a little bit like being like you know,

1505
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: I went from that on the same team to being

1506
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 1: the office sport.

1507
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: Later I didn't Yeah, I should have done, und I

1508
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: did not know.

1509
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Are you going to bring back team take off with

1510
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: the footballs?

1511
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: This guy about broke my ribs. That was the worst

1512
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 5: job I've had all the job. That was the worst

1513
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 5: job because we do the team take off and these

1514
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 5: guys run the ball and then it would be like

1515
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: just boom one rip shot. After I felt like I

1516
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 5: was training for like boxing, like sorry, I need to

1517
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 5: work my abs, like go to home and get the medicine.

1518
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: People have your.

1519
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Kids and rocking for team team takeoff is like you

1520
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: line up on the twenty five yard line and then

1521
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: they'd snap the ball and you run whatever it is

1522
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: on air and then somebody would hold a football up

1523
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: like or was one of those guys at one point,

1524
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: and then the whole job was everyone has to run

1525
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: to where the football is and that's like that was

1526
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: us finish it and I, dude, I would try to

1527
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: beat the ship out of art.

1528
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: I tried to, and I tried to warn Luke when

1529
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: he took that job over. So when I became a

1530
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 5: tight end coach, I say, hey, man, just get ready.

1531
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like what are you talking about? I think

1532
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: you got him. He may have got him like the

1533
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 4: first or second day.

1534
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got him in the ribs one time.

1535
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 5: And he was so like he was so pissed and

1536
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 5: he was like he's like now I know what you're

1537
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 5: talking about.

1538
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: Him like, yeah, that's not the that's not the best

1539
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: job to have because because everybody does team take off different.

1540
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 5: But Mike wanted to be like go to the ball

1541
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 5: and then like you guys went to the ball and

1542
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 5: it was like and.

1543
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: Some yeah, yeah, no, it was hey, mate made a

1544
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 4: better person.

1545
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.

1546
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: Took some shots. I literally think I tried to throw

1547
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: you down by your throat one time.

1548
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: Taylor's literally just flashing back to trying to yeah, because

1549
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: I tried to get that.

1550
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: Ball out dude, But I don't think you ever fumbled once.

1551
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: No, held him to the ball. Something else got me

1552
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: pretty good.

1553
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 5: I think, like, no, whatn't all It was like Byron Bell,

1554
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 5: somebody that had that strength that like you know, just

1555
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 5: turned it on when you didn't expect it. And I

1556
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 5: think one time, like he got geeked up and I.

1557
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: Was like, god, mighty thanks thanks, Yeah Byron Bell. Then

1558
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: he was strong.

1559
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 4: He was strong for you guys.

1560
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 5: Didn't realize how strong he was until like probably hit

1561
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 5: you like no doubt, like every once in a while,

1562
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 5: like didn't want to bring it, and when he brought it,

1563
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 5: you're like, God, it's.

1564
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: Like yeaheah for sure.

1565
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: So you were you were going from like a position

1566
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: coach to coach leafloor moves on the OC job is open?

1567
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: Are you like what what is going on?

1568
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 3: And this is just you personally, like what goes on

1569
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: in your mind, like when that spot opens up and

1570
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 3: you're like you're getting your stuff together, you're about to approach,

1571
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm really curious like the nerves or like

1572
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 3: the feeling you might have when you're trying to get getting.

1573
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: The job there.

1574
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 5: Sorry, but yeah, what you're asking is when I had

1575
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 5: talked to the Rabel last year during the transition, like

1576
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 5: he asked me what my long term goals and so

1577
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 5: I was like I'm just gonna tell him, like I

1578
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 5: felt like I had nothing to lose.

1579
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 4: Like here we are. You know that that was such

1580
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 4: a strange ending to the season.

1581
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 5: You know, you go from the playoffs and then you know,

1582
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 5: things happen quick and then next thing I know, i'mber

1583
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: Craig Ackerman and I are driving down the Cener Bowl.

1584
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 5: Were like, we gotta go interview with him at a hotel.

1585
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 5: I had no idea what to expect, you know, so

1586
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: you're trying to do your homework on Verrable. I knew

1587
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 5: people had worked with him down in Houston, and so

1588
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right.

1589
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 4: Here's what I gotta get ready for. Here's what I'm man.

1590
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 5: And then like one of the first questions he asked me,

1591
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 5: he was like, what do you want to do long term?

1592
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 5: And I said, eventually, hopefully get to where you do

1593
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 5: or where you're sitting right now. But in order to

1594
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 5: do that, I understand, I got to be a really

1595
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 5: good tight end coach, and then if I get the opportunity,

1596
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 5: I want to be a really good offensive coordinator. So

1597
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 5: at least I had brought it up to him and

1598
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 5: then we had talked about it, and then you know what,

1599
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 5: I don't even know Matt thought he was going to

1600
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 5: get that Green Bay job. It happened so quick, like

1601
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 5: he prepared is this butt off for that job, and

1602
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 5: then he goes in that interview for a couple days later,

1603
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 5: and then he calls me that Monday morning and like, well,

1604
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 5: how to go He's like well, He's like, well, I'm

1605
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 5: waiting on a call from Aaron Rodgers. I was like, Matt,

1606
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: probably went pretty well.

1607
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 4: Then they're getting Aaron Rodgers.

1608
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 5: To call you, Like, it's probably going pretty well. So

1609
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 5: then it happens. It happens quick. It happened in a

1610
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 5: couple of hours, I believe, right. So I'm like setting myself.

1611
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 5: I was like, well, and part of me was like,

1612
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 5: you know you're going through that, Like do you make sure.

1613
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 4: You bring it up or you just wait around?

1614
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 5: So I just went in the office next morning to

1615
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 5: try to catch Rabel. So I just sat there Matt

1616
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 5: was cleaning stuff out, and then I ended up catching Rabel.

1617
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, can I talk to you

1618
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: for five minutes?

1619
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: Hold? How was that watching Matt like clean out his

1620
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: office after one year? Was there kind of like a

1621
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: vibe like, man, get the fucking guy. You know what

1622
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I'm not saying our coaches are like

1623
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: that at all. I'm saying like, you know, you're with

1624
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: us for a year, and he's like he's kind of leaving.

1625
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: And I love I love Matt, and I like if

1626
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: you get a head coach, you know, you gotta go,

1627
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: like there's a business, you got to go do your thing.

1628
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: But like when you go to clear your stuff out,

1629
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: you haven't been fired. You're just like, I'm gonna go

1630
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: take a different job.

1631
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: You see.

1632
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: You're just like, yeah, It's like it's like when Farva

1633
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: went to there went to the police and super Troopers.

1634
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: I love, he's like Team Ramrod, right, guys and everyone

1635
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: like circling him up and stuff like that. That's how I

1636
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: see it. Then.

1637
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well in that situation, I guess you're just like

1638
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 5: you're happy that like Jeb is not waiting outside his door,

1639
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, like where it's.

1640
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 4: Like bad news.

1641
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was definitely a little strange for Matt

1642
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 5: because Matt's God, Matt's been in He had gone to

1643
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 5: Atlanta to LA and then it's he had an issue

1644
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 5: with his house. I think it flooded, and then he

1645
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 5: had to move out of that house. So he was

1646
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 5: at in LA and then they move, you know, to Nashville,

1647
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 5: and now he's going to Green Bay. So that's a

1648
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 5: lot of move I mean that stuff has happened quick

1649
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: for him. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was a little surreal,

1650
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 5: and I think Matt it was like it was starting

1651
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 5: to hit him like, wow, I can go on to

1652
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 5: Green Bay, but it was nobody else was there, but

1653
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 5: it yeah, it was.

1654
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 4: It was cool for him. I was very happy for him.

1655
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 5: It's so different than like in free agency, like I've

1656
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 5: never like you want to get guys back, but the

1657
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 5: nature of the game is like if somebody's gonna pay

1658
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 5: a lot of money, you can never be.

1659
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: Resentful because like, good for you.

1660
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 5: You only got a certain amount of time to make

1661
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 5: money as a as a football player.

1662
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: So I think the difference between like the free agency

1663
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: thing and the coaches thing is like the coach is leaving,

1664
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: that's an individual, one one person going Wait. When it's freezency,

1665
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, this, let's say that you don't make

1666
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: the play for season ends January second, like all fifty

1667
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: three dudes like, hey man, good luck with everything. We'll

1668
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: see later. Like everyone's kind of leaving, like we're all

1669
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna leave together when everyone packs your stuff up, and

1670
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: there's like probably a dozen or so guys that are

1671
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: either contracts are expiring or whatever, and so it's kind

1672
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: of like a collective like, hey, we're all going together.

1673
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: But when you're like that one coach, it's like putting

1674
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: like the shoes and like all his ship in a box,

1675
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: like all right, guys, like good luck with your season.

1676
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

1677
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: I think they probably all understand, like oh totally. They

1678
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: are sitting in the sitting in the office like hey man, thanks,

1679
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: man up, I want that job. Yeah yeah, I love that.

1680
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: Are you like nervous when you're sitting there?

1681
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? So sorry, yeah you were.

1682
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 5: You were waiting for Rabel My bad. I just like

1683
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 5: just figured to go one or two ways.

1684
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: You tell me. No, it's like the same thing like

1685
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 4: when you're trying.

1686
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 5: To put yourself out there, like all right, well, and

1687
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 5: I you know, who knows what his real thought process?

1688
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 5: I mean, Rape does a great job. You think he

1689
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 5: keeps things close to the vest. And I was just saying, like,

1690
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 5: all right, what's the worst you gonna tell me?

1691
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 4: Like right, too bad? Get lost? Like so I was like,

1692
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 4: all right, I'll just take my shot.

1693
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 5: And so we sat and talked and then he said

1694
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 5: he get back to me, and I just and at

1695
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 5: that point I was like, I'm not gonna be the

1696
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 5: guy that's like because some people the time people do

1697
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 5: and then they start getting desperate and you're trying to

1698
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 5: like get people to call for you or whatever.

1699
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 4: And I just kind of left alone and knew he

1700
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 4: you know, when he wanted to talk to me.

1701
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 5: He talked to me, and I just left it at

1702
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 5: that and I actually went out and uh, because we

1703
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 5: were off, so like I didn't want to sit around

1704
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 5: all day, so I actually went out on skiing.

1705
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm gonna do something to occupy

1706
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: me all day. That's what I did. And it was

1707
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: like my phone and I did, I'll get on like

1708
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 4: a chair lift and like yeah, hey, okay, yeah.

1709
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: Yet, well at least did you get pay someone calls

1710
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: You're like, mom, wait on a call, can put it

1711
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 1: back down?

1712
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

1713
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 5: So I did try to do something to occupy myself

1714
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 5: and it's different. And then after every season though, I

1715
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 5: always try to do something to get away, cause it's

1716
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 5: like you get locked in and it's like I've never

1717
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 5: been on submarine.

1718
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 4: But like the analogy makes sense, like.

1719
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 5: We are close quarters from the end of July and

1720
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 5: it is like it goes back like college brought up

1721
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: like a lot of brothers sisters and have Some days

1722
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 5: are better than others, and some days you hate this person.

1723
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 5: You hate that person because you're in close quarters. But

1724
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 5: like at the end of it, like you grow so

1725
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 5: close to these people, players and coaches, but when it ends,

1726
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 5: it's such an abrupt end. That's such a strange day

1727
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 5: that the exit interview.

1728
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: Day after the season, right, it is strange.

1729
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 4: It's very strange for a lot of different reasons.

1730
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 5: I can't imagine some of the stuff you guys are

1731
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 5: thinking going through that as well. And then just all right,

1732
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 5: well you were in this thing and now.

1733
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 4: It's it's over.

1734
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see in April.

1735
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's yeah, it's strange.

1736
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, hopefully. Well sorry, Juce, you you

1737
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: wanted a question.

1738
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask who else?

1739
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: Say?

1740
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 6: I forgot who else they interviewed for those position?

1741
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: Was it? Was it just you?

1742
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: I have no idea I remember to ask you kind

1743
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: of get put through the ringer.

1744
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of the same thing that you'd have to ask.

1745
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: You probably just got.

1746
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 3: The blinders on and you know, when you get your shot,

1747
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna take advantage of it. I mean, when thinking

1748
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: of Matt, like you know, packers Sean McVay happens, and

1749
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 3: I bring them up because I was with both of

1750
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: them at the reds McVeigh goes off to interview for

1751
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: the RAMS a couple of years ago, and everybody's thinking,

1752
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be his first kind of wave

1753
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: of going through and interviewing, so he's gonna put himself

1754
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: out there and start getting his name out there. And

1755
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there with the coach Phillips, the tight ends

1756
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,919
Speaker 3: coach for the Redskins Way Till the Sun, Yeah, Wes Phillips,

1757
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: and he's like, man, I'm telling you, when Sean gets

1758
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: in the room with these guys, like he's they're gonna

1759
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: keep them there, He's not gonna leave, like he's that

1760
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: you know, well versed. And then you know, Matt goes

1761
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 3: to Green Bay. I don't know if he was going

1762
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: in the circuit to get ahead coaching of the year before,

1763
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: but he goes to Green Bay and it's like, you

1764
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen, probably and I yes,

1765
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: this that the other thing, and he becomes the hot candidate. Yeah,

1766
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like for you, you know, was it

1767
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: was it your first time going after like an OC position, first.

1768
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 4: Time to go after OC.

1769
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 5: Here's a random story, like I I tried to get

1770
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 5: the Georgetown University head job in twenty fourteen, right and

1771
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 5: I actually went on an interview for it, and I like,

1772
01:08:58,840 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: I was like I was just gonna take my shit.

1773
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, same type of deal, and they brought

1774
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 5: me up there. Obviously didn't get it, but at that

1775
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 5: point I was just like I'd been in that QC

1776
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 5: assistant role, and I was like why not, Like I

1777
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 5: had ties to the school because I had gone to

1778
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 5: the high school affiliated with it and knew somebody that

1779
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 5: had known the ad put in a word, and like,

1780
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 5: it's such a different world from like Michigan or Nebraska

1781
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 5: or North Carolina. But I was like, why it's worth

1782
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 5: a shot, Like I like DC and so that had

1783
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 5: helped me at least going through it, get going through it.

1784
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 5: But I had the same mindset, like I had a

1785
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 5: really good job, Like this was when Wizdom and that turnover.

1786
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 5: So I was kind of waiting and I was like,

1787
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 5: at least I I felt like I had something to

1788
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 5: fall back onto. That was an awesome job in the NFL.

1789
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 5: If I didn't get it, Like God, knows what would

1790
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 5: happen if I did.

1791
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at least I had I had had some of.

1792
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 3: Because that's interesting to me, going through like the first

1793
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: experience of something and you're kind of like, all right,

1794
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, drave he called me up.

1795
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: I'm coming in like I'm about to.

1796
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 3: You're trying to do it the best of your ability,

1797
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know what experience happens before

1798
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: that compared to if they're asking questions. But you're you

1799
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 3: gotta be nervous as ship, you know what I mean.

1800
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go through that, you got to, like the

1801
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: draft process, and you're nervous as ship all the time.

1802
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1803
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, flying places, you gotta go talk to people. You

1804
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell people are into.

1805
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: Hey, people ask the weirdest questions. Yeah, it's wild.

1806
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: Man, Like, like the draft is crazy because they're gonna

1807
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: it's not like a regular nine to five job. They

1808
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: can ask you whatever they want.

1809
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you go on those visits. I'm sure people,

1810
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 4: how mean did you go on?

1811
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I was in like sixteen visits.

1812
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 4: It's crazy. So I never thought we were gonna get you.

1813
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: I had I had twenty said, like, dude, I remember

1814
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was Atlanta, right, I thought I was

1815
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta at six. Oh, I'm gonna burn that place

1816
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: to the ground.

1817
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: Baby.

1818
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: They took a swing man, but uh no, I honestly

1819
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember the day I was supposed to

1820
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: leave to go visit Tennessee and I called my agent.

1821
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, why would I Why would I go

1822
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: to this like they have they they have Michael Ruse

1823
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: who's a stud for the last ten years or going

1824
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: into his tenth year, and they just they just signed

1825
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: Michael one side. Yeah, I picked up blank side picked

1826
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: who's playing right, probably from playing my side? Yeah, did

1827
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: you guys see this movie?

1828
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: Get this guy?

1829
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: Get this guy? And he's like he's like he literally said,

1830
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: let me call some people and I'll call you back.

1831
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: And then Patrick Collins, who's one of my agents, he

1832
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: calls me back and he's like, you should go to

1833
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: that meeting. And I'm like, all right, dude, whatever. So

1834
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 1: I fly out there Southwest See like fifteen. I actually

1835
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: I want to get into something after that. But I

1836
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: remember going and hanging out with everybody, and everybody wanted

1837
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: to know about my off the field issues. No one

1838
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: really gave a shit about football. So I went and

1839
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: did that. But yeah, man, I was all over the place,

1840
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: and I was I really thought like Atlanta, Like it

1841
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: was Monday before the draft, and Atlanta, they had a

1842
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: flew a guy to my house and he's sitting there.

1843
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: He's like, well, what do you think about the draft?

1844
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: Like how do you feel everything's going? When I was like, well,

1845
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just just anxious, excited to see where

1846
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.

1847
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 4: You know.

1848
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: He's like, do you you think go earlier late? And

1849
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, politically, cards will. It doesn't

1850
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: matter where I go as long as I get a

1851
01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: step in the door and then I'm gonna do whatever.

1852
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: And I had him like, dude, one hopefully you know,

1853
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: like hopefully like number one, but like they had Jadavi

1854
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Davian Clowny out there. Dude, he was a surefire. And

1855
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: he goes, well, you know there's a reason why I'm here.

1856
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, if you're there at six, be ready, have

1857
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: your bags packed. And I was like, holy shit, dude,

1858
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to the Atlanta Falcons. I'm going to Atlanta Falcons.

1859
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: It's six. I'm like, I'm better to be a dirty bird.

1860
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: It's about to get crazy out here. And I remember

1861
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: like sitting at the draft and six came up and

1862
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: it's quiet, dude, and everywhere like I got my mom,

1863
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 1: my dad, my brother, my best friends, my coach, my agents,

1864
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: and they're all standing around and I'm staring. I'm staring

1865
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: at that classic phone and I hear I hear phone ringing.

1866
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: It's two tables over. It's Jake Matthews and like in

1867
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: the green room, like you're not supposed to get up.

1868
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: So I got up immediately and like walked like walked away,

1869
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, maybe everything's just a lie

1870
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: and I'm getting punked. Maybe I'm not even good at football, dude,

1871
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: and they've been paying these calls' sitting like I'm like

1872
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: in my head so bad. I'm in the mirror staring

1873
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: at myself in the mirror, like, dude, you're a fucking loser,

1874
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: Like you ain't getting drafted. They brought you here to

1875
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: make a fool out of you. This has been a

1876
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: five year joke. And I get there, dude. I remember

1877
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: Detroit came up and I was like, god, no, yeah,

1878
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 1: yeah no, the Detroit at ten. I was like, dude,

1879
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: because I was kind of ready to move to a

1880
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: different state. I was like, I don't know about Detroit, dude,

1881
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. And like when like like

1882
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: in the draft, like nine will be picking or ten

1883
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: will be picking, but eleven will be up because they've

1884
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: already picked it. So you guys know you're on the clock.

1885
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: So it'll switch from like it'll go to the next

1886
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: clock and they'll be like four minutes left as opposed

1887
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: as they're ten. And so like Tom Condon, who's like

1888
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: my main agent, comes over to me and whispers in

1889
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: my area and he's walking over to me. I'm like, dude,

1890
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: he's about to tell me Detroit. I guess that's I mean,

1891
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna be happy regardless, but like you know,

1892
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: I was a vend in church old and he comes

1893
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: over whispers he was Tennessee What, Yes, Tennessee Titans. I

1894
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: was like, no, wait, dude, I was, And I said

1895
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: the same thing, Michael Ruis, Michael Orr and that phone

1896
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: started ringing. I don't even remember who I was talking to.

1897
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: I start to Carly, I think who was was she there?

1898
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: At that time?

1899
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,959
Speaker 4: I thought it was Jessica.

1900
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: Jessica, Yeah, she was she was uh webster Rusting Webster's assistant,

1901
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: and I talked to them, but I was like pissed,

1902
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: And I wasn't mad because of Tennessee. I was just

1903
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: mad that I felt like lied to or like I

1904
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: like I had this image of my head of like, dude,

1905
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: you're the number one tackle and I was ended up

1906
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: being the third and like eleventh overall, which I know

1907
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: is a little bit ridiculous to be complaining about, but

1908
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: like that was.

1909
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sitting here, Yeah, I'm sitting here listening

1910
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 3: all the time, like man like yeah, but I'm into

1911
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: your story thinking like yeah, it sucks, and then I'm like,

1912
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: well shit, I mean in my house.

1913
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 5: I guess yeah, I just yeah, because I remember you

1914
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 5: coming on your visit. But I just remember, like every

1915
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 5: every staft's different how they handle the draft and.

1916
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 4: Some places are more inclusive to the coaches than I.

1917
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the way that went, I thought we would

1918
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 5: get a tackle, But like I remember looking at it.

1919
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: What made you think we get a tackle? Though?

1920
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 4: Because there was three guys in that pod.

1921
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 5: It was Robinson, Jake, and you. So you just figured,

1922
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 5: like are these teams the tackles? Like here's probably who's

1923
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 5: going to where?

1924
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,520
Speaker 4: I just didn't like.

1925
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 5: When we were watching them all you just assumed that,

1926
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 5: all right, well this guy may he probably won't be there,

1927
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 5: And then it obviously felt a different way because I

1928
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 5: think everybody probably thought you were going to Atlanta.

1929
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because I remember actually me and

1930
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: Jake Matthews were sitting there like a day or so before,

1931
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: and this is when it was all on Radio City

1932
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: in New York, and I'm like, me and Jake, we

1933
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: don't really know each other, but we obviously know of

1934
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: each other. And I'm like, man, where do you want

1935
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: to go? And he's like, you know, he starts, he

1936
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: starts talking with like, well, you know, all the teams are.

1937
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: I was like this just Jake made no cameras here, bro,

1938
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? Yeah?

1939
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 2: Which city you want to?

1940
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: And in my head, dude, for the last three days,

1941
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: I've been a falcon, you know, like.

1942
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: If my head, like if I head.

1943
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: After I was told I was like, yo, you are

1944
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: a falcon, and he's like, man, I really want to

1945
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: go to the Atlanta Falcons. I'm like, dude, yeah, me too.

1946
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: That's sick. That's crazy, no doubt. But honestly, I think

1947
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: if I went to the Falcons that my life would be. Yeah,

1948
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I would have done as well in

1949
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 1: a place like Atlanta. I think like the city of Nashville.

1950
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: It was.

1951
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a bumpy road that

1952
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: second season, but fuck, dude, these guys took me in

1953
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: like nobody's business. It's crazy how much like people are

1954
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: so receptive to me as an offensive lineman.

1955
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a great place.

1956
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 5: It's awesome, dude, and they do I mean, no, there's

1957
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 5: no sidebar, but that you talk about awkward dynamics because

1958
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 5: Jake's dad.

1959
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 4: Had been the line coach before that. The West came

1960
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: in like it was a completely different staff.

1961
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 5: So Bruce, who's obviously an oiler Titan legend, had been

1962
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 5: in the line coach. Yeah, and then here's his sign,

1963
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 5: and like it's like everything hangs in the balance, Like

1964
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 5: what does Atlanta do? Like, you know, is it the

1965
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 5: Titans draft Jake matt You know, it's justody.

1966
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,839
Speaker 1: Imagine if the Matthew's got drafted by the tests Titans, maybe,

1967
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: like the storyline would be unbelievable.

1968
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't pritty to some of those conversations. I'm

1969
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 4: curious what Rustin would have done.

1970
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: He probably would have took him.

1971
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1972
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys.

1973
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 3: Were that you guys, if you guys were in the

1974
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 3: market for a left tackle.

1975
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1976
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 5: Those were above my big grade. Yeah, so I don't know,

1977
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 5: but that I always thought in my head.

1978
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 4: I was like, well, what if I take Jake? Like yeah,

1979
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 4: and Bruce is awesome? Like it.

1980
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 5: You know what's cool is like I got to work

1981
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 5: with like Bruce Matthews and Russ Graham. Yeah, that's cool,

1982
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 5: like being a kid that was like an alignment that

1983
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 5: looked up to guys like and then obviously Mike Munchek too,

1984
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 5: Like those are like three studs of like the eighties

1985
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 5: and like Bruce played forever, so that.

1986
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 1: Whole family too, is just wild. The genie I remember,

1987
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: like I think it was it was after my second

1988
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 1: when I made my second Pro Bowl. I was I

1989
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: was joking. I jokingly went up to Hast the equipment guy,

1990
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I was like how many

1991
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: how many Pro Bowls does Bruce Matthews have and how

1992
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: is like, well, but about fourteen in a row. And

1993
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: I was like, twelve more, twelve more because I got

1994
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: a vendeted against the Matthews family.

1995
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

1996
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: I was totally kidding. Well, like two days later, is like,

1997
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: come in my office real quick. I come back, come

1998
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: on back to where I go into his office. He

1999
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: literally gave me a stern talking to you about like listen,

2000
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: Bruce like worked his ass off. He was this guy.

2001
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: He was that guy like you gotta respect him. Yeah,

2002
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, dude, I was totally kidding.

2003
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: That's I was like, my bad, but it's dude, I

2004
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: mean twenty years right, he played like nineteen or twenty

2005
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: years in the league and he was all Pro at center,

2006
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: guard and tackle.

2007
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: That is pretty unreal.

2008
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: That might not ever happen again. He is.

2009
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 4: That's an awesome guy too. Like all those guys, all

2010
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 4: three of those guys, they all have.

2011
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 5: Gold jackets, and all three of them are just awesome

2012
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 5: human beings. Yeah, and they're all, you know, different in

2013
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 5: their own ways, but they're just studs, just stug people

2014
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 5: to work for.

2015
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: Like Munch was was great. He taught me so much

2016
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 4: to you talked.

2017
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 5: About a guy that like guy had a gold jacket,

2018
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 5: he had done QC work like he would meticulous about

2019
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 5: drawing protections and runs like he would like he appreciated

2020
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,799
Speaker 5: that stuff. Like you've met obviously Munch coaching the Probramah,

2021
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 5: So like I've been really lucky, Like I've gotten to

2022
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 5: work with some awesome like legends of the game, like

2023
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 5: starting with Joe Gibbs and then getting here with Munch,

2024
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 5: and there's a named tons of guys.

2025
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: Dude, Munch is the man too, Like he he was

2026
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: an awesome guy and like I met him when he

2027
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: has a Steelers coach the Pro Bowl, and he was

2028
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: just awesome. Like him, Alejandro Ville in a wave, a

2029
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: pouncy di castro, like we all just hung out, had

2030
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: a couple of beers. He was just swapping some stories, dude,

2031
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: talking about the old times. All those guys talk about

2032
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: the old times. Man, it's not like a good story though, Like, yeah,

2033
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: there's a there's a guy named Corey Smith or something.

2034
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: There's a country music singer. He's got oh yeah, he's

2035
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: got yeah. He's awesome from Atlanta, Georgia, and he's got

2036
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: a he's got a line. He's like my favorite story,

2037
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: start my favorite conversation, start with I remember when yeah,

2038
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: you know you get to that age. Man, everything's like, dude,

2039
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: remember what it was like this? Yeah, remember when we

2040
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: did this stuff?

2041
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 4: That was awesome.

2042
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be us.

2043
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: No, man, we get old living that present for sure,

2044
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 1: live in that present.

2045
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: Man. We started that stupid bus.

2046
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, failed, it may take off. You had some

2047
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: plans for this bus, man.

2048
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 4: We did have an original idea.

2049
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this the bus was all Taylor did. He saw

2050
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: the bus, it was like, yo, I gotta have it.

2051
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, are we gonna be a fit

2052
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 3: everything you see? I'm sitting here thinking like, yeah, how

2053
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: in the hell are we gonna make this studio? Like

2054
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 3: are we just kind of being reactive? And then sure enough?

2055
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: Man, a couple weeks later, I'm like, hey, bro, you

2056
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: were you were right? Like this thing is? This thing's awesome?

2057
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 4: How the transaction go down?

2058
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: The bus?

2059
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 4: Yo?

2060
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: Just so, I never even met the dude. His name

2061
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: is Huan and he owns like that, he owns that

2062
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: coffee shop. Yeah yeah he juice Juice like they did

2063
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: Home Street Home. That's how I met these guys. And

2064
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: so Jude like we're talking about doing a podcast and

2065
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: we're like, what about a studio? And Juice like I

2066
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: guess like you guys had a conversation before you got there,

2067
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: before I even got there, and they're like, check out

2068
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: this bus, and you were it was like talor's gonna

2069
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: love this.

2070
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2071
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, man, but to show

2072
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 3: that the tailor, he's gonna love this shit.

2073
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: So they they were talking about studios and Juic said, well,

2074
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: we're at this bus and I'm like, regardless of studio

2075
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: or not, I'm buying that bus, regardless of price. And

2076
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: he goes, well, I think he only wants like six

2077
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for the bus, and I was like, dude,

2078
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: hell yeah, like six hundred bucks. Like, let me go

2079
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: to the ATM real quick. Dude's get this thing done.

2080
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: Get this thing done. And and I, uh, we called

2081
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: Juan because we were like, where's this bus out? We

2082
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: had to go see it right now if it's close enough.

2083
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: Ended up being like forty feet away, so we like

2084
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: we came out in here and checked out. I was like, dude,

2085
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: this thing is amazing. But this whole area, dude was

2086
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: discussing all these all these stickers were here, and then

2087
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: we had like there was recliners all over the place,

2088
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: and in the back right corner there was a bunch

2089
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 1: of like student benches and like, uh, there was a

2090
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: recliner in the front. It was terrible, dude. There was

2091
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: a there was like squirrels living in the corner.

2092
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: Here that you see all throughout the whole day.

2093
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad. So we got a couple of

2094
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: guys in here, Jeff Estis and the boys, and they like,

2095
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I literally I gave him, gave him

2096
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: ten grand I was like, I'm not going to dime

2097
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 1: above this, but yeah, to turn this into a studio.

2098
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 1: And so they put the flooring in, they cleaned the

2099
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: entire thing up, they put the AC unit in.

2100
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 3: Built that table that they're all that the production team's

2101
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: working on.

2102
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: But then but everybody had an input on it because

2103
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: like at my thought was like, oh, let's film it

2104
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: back there. It'll be easy because there's there's those two

2105
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: wheel wells that we made box stuff. Oh, it's like cool,

2106
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: we could just sit there. And she's like, well, the

2107
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: production would be better if it was facing this way.

2108
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Like Juice and Peepee had that whole

2109
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: thing walked down. So like we all kind of did it.

2110
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: We'll got the furniture, it looks a little fur rudy

2111
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: down there, got that seventy sheet going.

2112
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 4: I told you what made me laugh.

2113
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 5: I was trying to make sure I was getting ready

2114
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 5: to I didn't screw this up for you guys. And

2115
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 5: I was watching those promo videos that made me laugh.

2116
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,440
Speaker 4: My ass. You liked them.

2117
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: They're on BUS and WTV. Yeah, you've you've.

2118
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Killed it though your dad started FedEx and you like,

2119
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, let's be honest, don't

2120
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: have to do anything. You know what I'm saying. Your

2121
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: your sister doesn't and everything. What what was it about

2122
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: your mentality to say that I need to be self

2123
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: made because a lot of times people say, show me

2124
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: the son of a billionaire, and that kid's fucked because

2125
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to they'll never be self made. Yeah,

2126
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: here you are, go play college football. College football doesn't

2127
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: work out the way you want from the standpoint of

2128
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: making to the NFL. You say I'm gonna go into

2129
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: coaching when you don't have to, and coaching is a

2130
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: very stressful job, you see, right, Yeah, and you start

2131
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: working your way up the ranks. How did that mindset be?

2132
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 4: Like?

2133
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: How did you develop that mindset of like I don't

2134
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: care what my father did. I want to be Yeah, I.

2135
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 4: Mean it's great. I'll give you a great question.

2136
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 5: I'll give you a shorter answer because it's a long

2137
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 5: layered answer. But first of all, like I think you

2138
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 5: gotta get a lot of credit to my parents, Like

2139
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 5: I know, idea what my dad did growing up.

2140
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 4: I just knew he worked hard.

2141
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 5: Right he was, you know, and you gotta go back

2142
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 5: and look at where my dad came from. Like he

2143
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 5: lost his dad at four, so he never knew. He

2144
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 5: never had a dad around, and my grandmother got remarried.

2145
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 5: But he basically grew up as like an only child.

2146
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 5: And my grandfather had made some money. He was an

2147
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 5: entrepreneur himself and actually was one of the co founders

2148
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 5: of like some of the short older stuff guys must

2149
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 5: have been in like the twenties or thirties. Yeah, and

2150
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 5: he was an interesting guy. I think he got remarried

2151
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 5: like four times. I think every time his wife got

2152
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 5: to twenty seven.

2153
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 4: He got remarried. I could say that now it's rest

2154
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 4: in peace of my grandmother.

2155
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 5: She's not around, but so Heah, my dad, it was like,

2156
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 5: you know, he was in his fifties and he died

2157
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 5: of a heart attack.

2158
01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 4: So he grew up and then his my dad's high

2159
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 4: school coach.

2160
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 5: He had a huge impact on him, and then he

2161
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 5: ended up going to Yale. So obviously he was much

2162
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 5: smarter than I was and got into Yale. And so

2163
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 5: he was going to graduate college in nineteen sixty six,

2164
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 5: and he figured that they were gonna get he was

2165
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 5: gonna get drafted in Vietnam. So he was like, I'm

2166
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 5: gonna choose which branch are going. So he decided to

2167
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 5: go in the marine. So going into the senior year,

2168
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 5: he went to what would now be the OCS where

2169
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 5: you go to Officer Candidate School. He graduated basic school

2170
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 5: and at that point you're supposed to like, I think

2171
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 5: the basic school was supposed to be like nine months.

2172
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 5: Maybe he was like everything was sped up. He's like,

2173
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 5: before we knew it were in Vietnam, like and so.

2174
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: And the tours they were.

2175
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: Like he did a tour.

2176
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 4: He did two tours. Wow, And he was an infantry

2177
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 4: platoon leader.

2178
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 5: I think it was he was there I think all

2179
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 5: sixty seven if I had that right. And it's funny

2180
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 5: he never really talked about it growing up as he's

2181
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 5: gotten older, he's talked more about it. Then he went

2182
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 5: back as a Ford Air controller, so he did two

2183
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 5: long tours there, and you know, he credits everything to

2184
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 5: the Marine Corps where he got his ideas. Like, you know,

2185
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 5: people ask him, where'd you go to business school? He's like,

2186
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 5: I went to the Uninitied State's Marine Corps, where I

2187
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,839
Speaker 5: learned more valuable lessons about logistics and organizing and culture

2188
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. So his mentality is very different

2189
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 5: than a lot of people.

2190
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 4: Like he was. He was a marine at heart, and

2191
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: so the way like my brother is like he was.

2192
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 5: He used to get after me and my brother and

2193
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 5: he and so he had his high school coach and impact,

2194
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 5: like he wanted us to get involved in something. So

2195
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 5: he was he's such he's such a humble guy. Like

2196
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 5: if you met at me, like he's so different, but

2197
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 5: that I didn't know any different. So your little kid,

2198
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 5: you go around and.

2199
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 4: My mom's old school. She was from a big Catholic family.

2200
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 5: I think by the time all her oller brothers and sisters,

2201
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 5: I think when they're eighteen, my grandfather like get out

2202
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 5: of the house, right, And it's just some you know,

2203
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 5: southern family, like it's you gotta find find your way,

2204
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 5: and uh so they did a great job. My mom

2205
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 5: was adamant about like not gonna try to spoil these kids.

2206
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 5: And so it was like at school, so I didn't

2207
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 5: know my dad did, and like you'd be in like

2208
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 5: some grades like my dad said, your dad is you know,

2209
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 5: runs this or.

2210
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 4: He's got and I'd be like, no, it doesn't.

2211
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 2: My dad would beat your dad's ass.

2212
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I learned more from like other kids

2213
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 5: at school, you know.

2214
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: And then like obviously, so you guys don't have like

2215
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: a like a nice house or we did.

2216
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 5: Don't could me wrong, but it's there's nothing like like

2217
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 5: if you understand my dad wears like he has a

2218
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 5: dark gray suit like a navy blazer, like he's the

2219
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 5: most if you saw his weekend gear is like khakis

2220
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 5: and a polo and like really shined like shoes, right,

2221
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 5: Like there's nothing, there's no flair about him, like he drives.

2222
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Away from a new balance.

2223
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 5: It might be what he wears when he plays tennis.

2224
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 5: He's like he looks like he's playing Wimbledon. Like there's

2225
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 5: I've never seen him in a T shirt. He doesn't

2226
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 5: want a T shirt since Vietnam.

2227
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: No way.

2228
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just like and there's nothing flashy about him. Yeah,

2229
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 5: there's nothing flashy like the store he gets like suits

2230
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 5: in Memphis, like at this oak caall which open one

2231
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 5: here in Nashville.

2232
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: They like, I talked to the guy, They're like, we

2233
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 4: try to get your dad to wear like a pin

2234
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 4: strike not happening, you know. So he's just like that's

2235
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 4: what he is.

2236
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 5: He drives like an explorer, like he doesn't. So our

2237
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 5: house we had, we had decent sized land, but it's

2238
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 5: not extravagant like you walked into. It's not like what

2239
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 5: you would think on something you'd see and like like that.

2240
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 5: You know, these like mansions and Beverly Hills. And then

2241
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 5: I never knew anything because there's so many people. So

2242
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, we have big Oscar's a lot

2243
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 5: of people. Like it just never registered to me obviously

2244
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 5: until you start getting older.

2245
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: But you get older though, like you get in a

2246
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 3: high school in college, like you're very aware at that

2247
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: point absolutely and still like you still don't succumb to

2248
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 3: the fall into that mindset of you know, still where

2249
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 3: did it?

2250
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: Where did it? Your parents did that great job?

2251
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: But at what stories happened where it cultivated the way,

2252
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to basically be my own dude,

2253
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna find my own damn way without.

2254
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it kind of like a ship on

2255
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 5: your shoulder in the way, and it maybe was just

2256
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 5: something that hits, like because you got tired of people

2257
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 5: like assuming things about you. And that's where this game

2258
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 5: was great, because there's the thing that's unbelievable when you're

2259
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 5: playing football, no matter what position you play, it's the

2260
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 5: most eclectic group of people. You know, like you play

2261
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 5: a line or you play linebacker, receiver, like you just

2262
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 5: it's just a mixed bag of people and.

2263
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 4: You kind of find identity.

2264
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 5: And it was like, all right, well, people say, well

2265
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 5: because you went to a private school where your dad's

2266
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 5: got money, Like all right, well, now I can to

2267
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 5: play football and try to beat the shit out of

2268
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 5: somebody and prove if I'm better or not, and you

2269
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 5: would learn a lot of valuable lessons. And so it

2270
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 5: just really motivated me to say, like, there's something where

2271
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 5: I can prove it where people can't say, oh, you're

2272
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 5: only getting ahead because of this, And so that kind

2273
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 5: of motivated me and my dad and then obviously you

2274
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 5: realize as you grow older. Sure like you'd be moron

2275
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 5: not to realize, like something's different, right.

2276
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 4: Like I and going back to what I was talking

2277
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 4: about earlier, like with my dad, like he would let

2278
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 4: us travel with him, like if he wanted to know

2279
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 4: that my brother and sisters wanted. I went to my

2280
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 4: dad every when I was.

2281
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Younger Southwest one through fifteen, early bird special but.

2282
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 5: Like you know, I and then looking back on it, it

2283
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 5: was like unbelievable experiences like the places I got to

2284
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,520
Speaker 5: go with them and the people I got to meet, absolutely,

2285
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 5: and so.

2286
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 4: He just kept that in mind.

2287
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 5: It's like, look, if you don't earn it yourself, like

2288
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 5: it's not going to mean as much to you.

2289
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 4: And it's kind of what he instilled into me.

2290
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 5: So like even going to the high school, like like

2291
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 5: surely I didn't need a scholarship, but that was like

2292
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 5: a big deal in me, Like no doubt, right, it's

2293
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 5: like one of the like yet I had it, and yeah,

2294
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 5: I just have to get my parents out credit and

2295
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 5: all all my brother and sisters. Like if you ask anybody,

2296
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 5: like my mom would snap us off and my dad

2297
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,839
Speaker 5: would like he wasn't going to tolerate.

2298
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the hell of a job. And then you

2299
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 3: get into college world and into college culture and there's

2300
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 3: no like. You learned a lot there playing ball too, so.

2301
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 5: Sure you learn a lot about it. I mean every

2302
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 5: separate way. But uh, that's why I love being involved

2303
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 5: in football because you just you run into so many

2304
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 5: cool people. Yeah, interesting people, just different. There's nothing like it.

2305
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, football is unique. Man.

2306
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 2: Now you're on the bus.

2307
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: Now I'm on a bus.

2308
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 5: Now I'm on a bus where I pulled in this

2309
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 5: parking lot and didn't know what was gonna happen.

2310
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 2: You walk in the bus and then just start talking

2311
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: and how dope your parents are. How great of a

2312
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: job they did.

2313
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, I gotta give him credit due that's that's

2314
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. That is that's got to be for him too,

2315
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: to not be like, yo, I'm making like this much

2316
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: money and not to be like get flashy or like

2317
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: maybe loses himself. That he got him to that point,

2318
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: that says a lot about him, man. Because I saw

2319
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: something on Twitter, the idea. It's like, uh, it's like

2320
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: rich people dressed like this, and it showed like Bill

2321
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: Gates and all those guys and they're wearing like like

2322
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: you just said, like khakis and yeah, driving pickups and

2323
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: a collared shirt and they poor people just like this

2324
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: and it's like Gucci belt, Louis Vuitton this but proud

2325
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: of that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's it's

2326
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: it's crazy, like, yeah, the less let's flashy, the better, dude,

2327
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: go for this homeless look man, yeah, man, keeping it

2328
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: over and over.

2329
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, No, it's uh.

2330
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,879
Speaker 5: He's awesome. I talked to him all the time. He's

2331
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 5: he helps me out on something. It's funny.

2332
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 1: Now.

2333
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 5: The one thing I tried to he'll never do it.

2334
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to write a book. But he's got

2335
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 5: all these like fascinating stories, like you can ask for

2336
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 5: something like if you just put the random topic like

2337
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 5: have you ever been so and been here?

2338
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 4: Have you ever met so and so?

2339
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 5: Like you was just daying it like Vladimir Putin and

2340
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, I met him in France blah blah blah,

2341
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 5: and he can tell you a story about it.

2342
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2343
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 4: Or he'd be like Elvis and he'd be like, well,

2344
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 4: I was growing up. Elvis was my neighbor to the backyard.

2345
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 5: And I had a little dog running to him and

2346
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 5: you know he played with the dog and like, you know,

2347
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 5: stuff like that. It's like, I want him to write

2348
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 5: these stories down and he's got way more than that.

2349
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna you can't run it.

2350
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 2: He might be on the bus one day.

2351
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 4: He could be on a bus.

2352
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Would he come on the bus?

2353
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 4: You think interesting?

2354
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 5: I think John cal Perry tried to get him to

2355
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 5: a podcast, to get on his podcast at some point,

2356
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 5: and he thought about it because him and cal Perry,

2357
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 5: when cal was in Memphis, they got to know each

2358
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 5: other pretty well. I think he thought about it.

2359
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's worth a shot.

2360
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 3: What if his son called him up, he dad, man,

2361
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 3: you know boys, man, I just got on the bus

2362
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 3: and they want you.

2363
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 2: I think it'd be awesome.

2364
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 5: He's got a sense of humor, you know, as as

2365
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 5: serious as he looks like, he's got a pretty good

2366
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 5: sense of humor.

2367
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 4: So he'd ask him that question.

2368
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Want to do that intimidated the bus? So whatever you

2369
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about here? Do you want my mic?

2370
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you have any questions for us? Yeah?

2371
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2372
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 5: I try to get more stuff out of him now

2373
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 5: because and I just want somebody like writes my brothers

2374
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 5: and I have talked about this, like, just want to

2375
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 5: get somebody to write these stories now.

2376
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's what you need.

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01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: Man, As someone who's done as much as he has,

2378
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: it'd almost be unfair to the world to not give

2379
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: out the stories.

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01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: I know.

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01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 1: Has he met Kim Jong Um or whatever his name is. No,

2382
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: he is not, but just thinking a name, understanding their

2383
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: names of I had Frank Sinatra, Arnold Seneger. He's definitely

2384
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: met Frank. I love to hear that story, dude.

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01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 5: I mean I can call him right now and ask him,

2386
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 5: is that bad radio?

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01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: No?

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01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have a we have a Bluetooth hooked up.

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01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,520
Speaker 4: He'd be so confused.

2390
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 5: That, hey, I'm on a bus in a podcast in

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01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:40,879
Speaker 5: a remote location.

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01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 4: He might be like, oh that's great boos Will Compton.

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01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 1: Oh man, Jesus, hey, Jesus, just trashing you over there?

2395
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: Know what a dinky dude. That's awesome. I appreciate you coming.

2396
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 4: On the podcast. I didn't incriminate myself.

2397
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 1: I think he did a great job. I think he

2398
01:33:59,200 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: really did.

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01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: You guys gonna hit like you've seen some of these

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01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 4: things take off. I really hope it does, because you know,

2401
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff.

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01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 5: This podcast is gonna get me through film watching. I

2403
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 5: watched film and I listened to podcasts.

2404
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you hopefully you listen to this.

2405
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 4: Oh, I've gone through.

2406
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I know this is my my own, but

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01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the delay anyone. I'm really curious to honest

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01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 5: you guys get on here.

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01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some talks to some people. We just

2410
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: gotta start putting up more in motion. You know what

2411
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think the more stuff we put out

2412
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 1: like this podcast, because of who you are and how

2413
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: no one's really spoke to you yet, I think a

2414
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of people will be really interested in this. So

2415
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on.

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01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 4: No, thanks a lot.

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01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can ever do anything to come on now.

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01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Raves, dude, I talked to Raves the other day when

2419
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: he talked talked to us about like, you know, just

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01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 1: be smart or whatever, and I'm like, you know, Will

2421
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: still wants you in the podcast. He goes, oh, I

2422
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 1: got something for Will whenever he wants.

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01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 3: Me Taylor and said, tell Will if he has any balls,

2424
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 3: you'll have me on the pod.

2425
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: I'd be worried about him disrespecting me in front of

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01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 1: the boys.

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01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 3: I'll be talking squad yeah, cut it.

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01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh we could. He's good at that, man, he's

2429
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 1: so witty. He is last thing we'll talk about and

2430
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 1: then we we'll jump off this thing. Man. But he's

2431
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: he'll get in there and he'll be like, so and so,

2432
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 1: what do you think of this? And cover two? Yeah,

2433
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: I'll let you know obviously a little long, maybe share

2434
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: some of your boys and he'll just go into it.

2435
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: Or when he pulls up the notes of you know what,

2436
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: players say.

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01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 2: Hey, Rashan, you might want to write this ship down.

2438
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 2: It's important.

2439
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: He gets those rookies, man, he gets them. I'm gonna

2440
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: shave them up, dude, Like, dude, start to lock in. Yeah,

2441
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 1: like he came at like Stinny and Stinny's on his

2442
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: p's and Ques. Yeah, locked and locked and it's awesome.

2443
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 5: Rashawan on the caravan is still the most impressive things

2444
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 5: I've ever seen on the caravan He's done.

2445
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 4: I think every one of them.

2446
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: He missed one, did he really?

2447
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2448
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Someone in his family past so we had to go

2449
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: to a funeral or something like that. But his his

2450
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: goal was to be the first Titans player to ever

2451
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: do it.

2452
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 2: To do what you go to all the caravans? Really? Yeah,

2453
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 2: RAS's a good dude.

2454
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Man, What a unique thing to be the first to do.

2455
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 2: I want to be the first.

2456
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: I's like Ripley's believe it or not, like first person

2457
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: to stack forty seven paper clips on top of each other,

2458
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 1: like something ridiculous. Okay, that's a world record.

2459
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 2: But hey, Ray, I'm sure you're going to listen to this.

2460
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,799
Speaker 3: You texted Taylor and said, if Will has any balls,

2461
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 3: to get me on the bus. And I'm telling you,

2462
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 3: if you have any balls, text me to get on

2463
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 3: the bus.

2464
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,799
Speaker 2: Oh, don't run it with that juice. No, that's solid.

2465
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 2: That was solid.

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01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, I'm being the next team

2467
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: meeting after this thing airs.

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01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 4: Hey what yeah, you tell.

2469
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: Compton that if here's any balls that I got, the balls,

2470
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: that we got the balls, I

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01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 4: Have me on