1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: What's going on, y'all? This is another episode of the 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Beatdown podcast. 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Welcome in. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Senior writer for the Washington Commanders, Zach Selby. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: I don't know about y'all. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm so kind of reeling from that New Orleans Saints 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: game where the Commanders survive a surging Switzer Rallery in 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: the second half and he misses the two point conversion 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: and they win. They get to nine wins, the best 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: starts since nineteen ninety two. So the Bible is still hot. 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Like I said, they're still a very good position for 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They've got three games left, starting with a 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: division matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles, who are all a 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: little bit of a role themselves with Saquon Barkley, with 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst, A J. Brown, DeVonta Smith being beasts as 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: they always are. And the last time they played each other, 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I think it was Thursday Night a football. The Commanders 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: had a chance to win except for that fourth down 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: play that ended up being going the other direction for 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: the Commanders, and from that point the Eagles just took 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: went away with it and ended up winning twenty six 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: to eighteen. It should be an interesting matchup between these 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: two teams heading into this next battle here at Northwest Stadium, 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: And how will the Commanders possibly be able to upset 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles and give them their first loss since Week four? 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: I believe, well that is what we're gonna be talking 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: about today. Joining me will be Scott Jackson. You can 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: find us him on Big one hundred game days for us. 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: You can send him on Scott Jackson Joe as well. Scott, 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: how you do it? 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: Man? Very good, good to be with you, Zach. 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: And we also have Eagles insider Davis Badero. Dave, how's 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: it been been to Watson's been a while since we 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: last spoke. 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: Yes, it has been God good to see you. Good 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: to hear from you. And Zach, how you do it? Yeah? 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's been a while. 38 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: And the Eagles, I mean, what a role you say, 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: a little bit of a role. Ten straight wins, franchise record, 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: It's been just an incredible pivot from a Week four 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: loss in Tampa Bay. Since that time, Eagles go to 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: a bye week and then if come back and they've 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: just been a dominant, dominant football team. So looking forward 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: to this game on Sunday against Washington should be. 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: A great win. 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Well, you know we can't hype you have too much, 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, But but you are correct, You're absolutely right. 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: But guys listening, you know you know the deal. 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: Here. 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I'll be asking these guys three questions about the matchup 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: for this game between the Commanders and the Eagles. There 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: will be points giving out an end of each round. 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: And since it is my podcast, it is my show, 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: I get to do whatever I want. I get to 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: decide a winner. But as I always say, you should 56 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: be more focused on what these two guys have to 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: say about the matchup because they are the stars of 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: the show. They're pinion matters far more than mine. That's 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: being said, let's go ahead and get right into it. 60 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: I think we should start with safe on Barkley here, right, 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: because he's an Eagles off instead has just been playing 62 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: out of its mind. He really has been the biggest 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: difference for them. He has sixteen hundred and eighty eight 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: yards really on pace for a two thousand yard season, 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: one of the rare currences in NFL history. 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: And as a fan. 67 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: Of the just the game and of running the ball 68 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: out of the former office the moment, I would love 69 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: to see him hit that number as someone who works 70 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: for the Commanders. 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: I hope he does not. He hope he just has 72 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: a terrible game against us. 73 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: But all that being said, the chances are he's going 74 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: to be a difficult challenge for the Commanders to stop. 75 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: And Dave will start with you here, since you're closer 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: to Saque than us here and you've been able to 77 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: get a really first hand look at his success. I 78 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: imagine that you've seen a lot of different game plans 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: for how opposing team's gonna be able to stop Saquon Barkley. 80 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: But what are you expecting from the Commander's defense in 81 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: this second matchup turn how they're going to attack him? 82 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it could be very similar to what 83 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh tried to do on Sunday. 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: Single heighs stafety, loads the box and. 85 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: Forced Jalen Hurst to throw the football. The Feelers were very, 86 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: very physical against the Eagles. They held Take one to 87 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: sixty five yards and they made the Eagles win in 88 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: the passing game. And Eagles did win in the passing game. 89 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: So if your goal is to take Taque out, you've 90 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: got to put eight, sometimes nine men in the box. 91 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: You've got to play downhill defense and you have to 92 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: be ready to go get the extremely physical Eagles offensive line. 93 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: So I mean, I'm not. 94 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: Sure there's a single formula to stop takeuon because clearly 95 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: the numbers would suggest that, you know, he's been relatively. 96 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: Unstoppable this season. 97 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: Defenses have tried a number of things to very little success. 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: He is just a great football player in a system 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: that's just works with an offensive line is dominant. So 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: I would imagine that Washington, should they want to really 101 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: take Taque out of the equation, they are going to 102 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: have to fill up that box with as many defensive 103 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: players as they can. 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: And credit word is due. That Eagles offensive line is 105 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: just exceptional. They've got Pro bowlers come, you know, just 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: from from left tackle to right tackle, they've they've really 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: been strong. I think they're arguably one of the best 108 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: off of the up lines in football. You know, you mentioned, 109 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, just putting eight nine good players the box. 110 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: That's probably how many of the commanders are going to 111 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: need because they have just really struggled in terms of 112 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: stopping the run this year. I think they have a 113 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of one hundred and thirty two rushing yards per game. 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: They've improved recently against the Titans and the Saints, but 115 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: they are still in the bottom half of the league 116 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: in that regard till twenty fifth, if my memory started 117 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: me correctly. Now, Scott, like I said, you know, the 118 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Commanders have that's been probably the biggest wigs for this 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: defense all year. So what are you expecting from from 120 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Washington because in a season have a lot of really 121 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: good running backs they've seen. I mean, safe one is 122 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: undoubtedly like one of, if not the best that they've seen. 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean him and Derek Henry for sure. 124 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: I mean you look at that game going back to 125 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 5: November fourteenth, the Commanders actually did a pretty good job 126 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: for three quarters right on Saquad Barkley. He had those 127 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 5: two big runs and two big touchdown runs against them, 128 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 5: and I think those arecounted for sixty two of us 129 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 5: one hundred forty six on those two carries that we're 130 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: both tds and and with what twenty six or one 131 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: forty six and two touchdowns. But I think thought of 132 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 5: a similar approach. You know, clearly you want to take 133 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: him out of the game. I also think you know, 134 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 5: you got to also be realistic about it too. I 135 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: think the other the other thing you have to do. Besides, 136 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: what you need to do on defense is offensively, you 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: better be really good and you need to kind of 138 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: flip the script on the Eagles a little bit. I mean, 139 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: you saw how they played ball control last week and 140 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: kept the Steelers off the field. I think you you certainly, 141 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 5: and we've seen this with the Commanders and they've been 142 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 5: successful this year in some of the ways they've taken 143 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: other teams, you know, best backs or best players out 144 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: of it is by getting leads, you know, playing on 145 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 5: their terms as opposed to playing catchup. I just I 146 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 5: just don't think this is the type of team you 147 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: can fall behind against and expect good things to happen, 148 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 5: you know, or you know, too far behind early. And 149 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: I think that's going to be a big part of 150 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: this game on Sunday. And of course all of us 151 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: are excited to see this because you know, this is 152 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 5: a little bit of a different defense with a guy 153 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: who we think is a true number one corner. So 154 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: it allows you perhaps to be a little bit more 155 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 5: creative and maybe getting those extra players in the box 156 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: to deal with Saquon Barkley. 157 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you bring up the first three quarters of 158 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: that game. In the first matchup. They were really good 159 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: against Saque, but he broke out after that that failed 160 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: fourth down conversion that they had and he just went 161 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: off of those two rushing touchdowns to end the game. 162 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: And that kind of brings up my next point here 163 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: is of the sixteen hundred and eighty eight yards, one 164 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: thousand and ninety one of those that come in the 165 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: second half of games, And that was the point that 166 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Danklin brought up in his press conference that saque is 167 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: really good when he needs to be able to close 168 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: out these games. 169 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: So Dave, like, I. 170 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Mean, is it there any like magic formula to like 171 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: why he's been able to really close up these games 172 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: that way, or like what have you seen from him 173 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: in the third and fourth quarters and make him so 174 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: special in those moments. 175 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: It's kind of been not just big one of Eagles often, 176 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: you know, until last week, they just didn't score in 177 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: the first quarter of games. They really struggled early in games, 178 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: and they have gotten better and better as the game 179 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: has gone along, and Saquon has followed suits. So I 180 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: think that there's kind of a correlation between the way 181 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: the Eagles offense has been operating in the way Saquon's 182 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: efficiency has been you know, increasing during games. So I look, 183 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: I mean he he is capable of breaking at any time. 184 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: And what Washington needs to do, I think got correct. 185 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: Like the Washington offense. The best way to stop Saquon 186 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: Barkley is for the Washington offense to have long, time 187 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: consuming drives that keeps the Eagles offense off the field, 188 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, Philadelphia is good 189 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: enough offensively that if Taquon is not getting it done 190 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 4: and the yards just aren't there like Pittsburgh, they'll throw 191 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: it to a j. Brown and they'll throw it Avonte 192 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: Smith and a Jalen hurshelbuster runs. So it's really incumbent 193 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: upon the Washington offense. And I know Washington rail about 194 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 4: really well last week and Jayden Daniels had a nice 195 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 4: game against New Orleans and that may be the way 196 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: to do it on Sunday against Eagles. 197 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll definitely see. 198 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's that just brings up 199 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: I think my biggest my other question here is and 200 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: this kind of goes into more of a grander scheme 201 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: for Washington's offense. Here, Scott is in the first half 202 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball for Washington have been really, 203 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: really good. They score fourteen points in the first half 204 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: in the Saints. They scored twenty eight points against the 205 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Titans three weeks ago. Taking half of games has been 206 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: kind of a different store from it on both sides 207 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: of the ball, particularly on defense. So what do you think, 208 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: like the cause of that is and is there a 209 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: solution especially against an offense like Philadelphia is who is 210 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: so good, and also on offense like I mean, how 211 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: do you use sustain drives against an Eagles defense that 212 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: is i mean playing like the best in the league 213 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: right now. 214 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's hard to say. Each week's 215 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 5: been like a different issue in its own. I also think, 216 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 5: let's be real, I mean, there was a stretch of 217 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: games that they played Pittsburgh Philadelphia in a five day period. 218 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 5: That's two really good teams, you know, do excellent defenses. 219 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, did I mention the quarterback 220 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: was still dealing with an issue even though they don't 221 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: want admit it. I mean, you know physically, I mean 222 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: he looks a lot different really since that Eagles game. 223 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 5: If you go back to the Dallas game, even though 224 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 5: they love look better Titans game much better obviously New 225 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: Orleans this past week, so I think that's been something 226 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 5: that you could look at as well. 227 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: And last week, I mean, you saw the games act. 228 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just, you know, the penalty has absolutely 229 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 5: killed you. You know, you we could question whether or 230 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: not they should have even attempted that long field goal 231 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 5: with Greg Joseph's and they should just pun him and 232 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: pinned him back. But you're just like a lot of 233 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: little things added up in that game that kind of 234 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 5: spiraled out of. 235 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: Control on them a little bit. 236 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: And you know, as far as like the Tennessee game, 237 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 5: you got a big you don't want to do anything 238 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: stupid in the second half. And there's been some other 239 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: games this year where they had big leads and they 240 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 5: just kind of you know, took. 241 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: The air of the ball a little bit Carolina as well. 242 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I think overall, though, would you 243 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: like a better, you know, four quarter performance if you're 244 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 5: the Commanders, Absolutely, I'm sure that's what Dan Quinn and 245 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: you know, Cliff Kingsbury and obviously Joe Winn on the 246 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 5: defensive side are trying to figure out like what's been lacking. 247 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: But you're just going back to the Eagles game for 248 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: a minute, for that. 249 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: Thursday night game, you know, Week eleven. I mean a 250 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: big problem too was just inability to convert on third 251 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 5: down for the Commanders, which has been one of their 252 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 5: strong suits this year, you know, for the most part 253 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: as an offense, you know, six in the league. But 254 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: in that game with three of twelve, I mean, you 255 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: know you talked about that failed fourth down was another thing. 256 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: But they had the flip, you know, the script flipped. 257 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 5: On them by Philly, and Philly had a big time 258 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: of possession of you know, advantage as well. So yeah, 259 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 5: those are the things they just they got to cut 260 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: out some of the stupid penalties and you know, in 261 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 5: particular last week it was it was defense and even 262 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 5: offense with some of the holds. And let's be honest, 263 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 5: that could have been a huge second half if Terry 264 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: and and you know and Jay didn't are on the 265 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: same page and they missed three bombs. I mean they 266 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 5: were both like inches away and maybe the last one 267 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: could have been a p I but whatever. I mean, 268 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 5: but those are just plays that are close to being made, 269 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 5: that have to be made. 270 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, true, all those those plays. 271 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: But Terry, I mean, you're not You're not You're never 272 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: going to get that open in the NFL very out 273 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: let alone three. 274 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: Times in the in the game. 275 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: But you're right, it is multi factorial in terms of 276 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: the reasons why Washington has has come up with these 277 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: different kind of sort of problems. And you know, I 278 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: really do hope that you know, the rest did Jaden 279 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: some some some good there with his rib injury, and 280 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: I think after coming out coming off these breaks, I mean, 281 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: as they're getting back into momentum, I think they're gonna 282 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, give a better fight against 283 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Philadelphia here, and they're gonna need it for sure. We'll 284 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: move on to the next question, but first you got 285 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: the Tide heading into the second round. 286 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: Both really good points here. 287 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: But we're gonna move on to another player here for 288 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: Washington that was not in the Eagles game. That will 289 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: be marsha On Lattimore. And you know you didn't see 290 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: much of him against the Saints. That's exactly what the 291 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: what the commanders wanted because he had zero targets, zero receptions, 292 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: and zero cadges allowed. That's that's exactly what you want 293 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: against a from from your from your number one corner 294 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: there who is a four time pro bowler, and you 295 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: traded a lot of picks for He'll be going to 296 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: give us an Eagles offense that has, as they mentioned, 297 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot of really good weapons here with AJ Brown 298 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: with the on to Smith, I mean, these guys are 299 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: some of the best in the league and this is 300 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: the match that you exactly want Lattimore to to to 301 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: play against here. So Scott, like, how does having Latimore 302 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: change the dynamic of the defense in terms of how 303 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: they're planned on stopping the Eagle receivers and that offense overall. 304 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think what we you know, what we suspected, 305 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 5: you know when they made the deal, Like you could 306 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: put him on a J. 307 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: Brown, You could put him one bit. 308 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 5: Side of the field and not worry move, you know, 309 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: not have to you know, roll coverages, and he's going 310 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 5: to handle his guy, whoever that may be. 311 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: Seems like a J. 312 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 5: Brown would be the better of a matchup for him 313 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 5: if they can get that, and if they decide to 314 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: travel with them. I mean, he gives you options and 315 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 5: let's be let's also look at it this way. I mean, 316 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: and you saw it last week. Mike Sandrastril was was 317 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: tested a lot in the in the game against the 318 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 5: Sainctsy did a great job. And you know what, they 319 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 5: tested him in Philly. I mean, the Eagles tested him 320 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: and he did a pretty good job against Brown. I 321 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 5: remember one particular play in the red zone where he 322 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: stood up strong. So you know, even though he's a 323 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: smaller guy, obviously they love him the rookie from Michigan, 324 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: you know. I mean, did Dan Quinn talk more about 325 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: any pick besides Jai Jaden Daniels than Mike Sainerstrill. I mean, 326 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 5: probably not. He said, you know, after he worked it 327 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 5: out and he said to uh, I guess maybe it 328 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 5: was Adam Peters or the guy's in the car. He's like, 329 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 5: I want us to draft this guy. And it wasn't 330 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't trying to hide his uh his 331 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: interest in this player. So I think from that standpoint, 332 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 5: it gives you a lot of options. We talked about 333 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: earlier about dropping guys in the box, you know, having 334 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: him out on the field I think makes life a 335 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: lot easier for them. And let's see, this is a 336 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: huge matchup and this is only his second game back 337 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: after a long absence, and you hit it on the 338 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 5: head deck. He really wasn't tested I mean literally was 339 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: not tested. They didn't throw a single ball his direction. 340 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: Clearly somebody in the Saints front office came down to 341 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 5: the coach and said, we can't look bad on this trade. 342 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: Please do not test this guy. 343 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 5: Even if you know, even if he's open, if you 344 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: think he's open, don't throw that direction. But it was 345 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: kind of a weird thing to see. But yeah, I mean, 346 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: I think he just gives them a lot of options. 347 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: But as Dan Quinn pointed out a couple occasions like, look, 348 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: that still doesn't mean the guy's you know, are going 349 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: to be better tacklers in the a gap in the beginning, 350 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: you know, like guys have to come up and make plays. 351 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: Talking with the linebackers and the and the tackles and 352 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: the safeties, they still have to make plays. 353 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: You know. 354 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: The Lattimore can't handle that for him, but for them. 355 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: But he's certainly going to give them more options and 356 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: more ability to be creative and how they want to 357 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 5: cover a guy like a J. 358 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: Brown. 359 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's always been I think one of the 360 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: biggest benefit of having Marshawn is not necessarily just adding 361 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: a player of his caliber, is how he affects the 362 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: players around him and his teammates around him, and you 363 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: can see how they've they've sort of adjusted the way 364 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: that they've done their personnel to fit people in probably 365 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: better spots now, Dave. You know, like I said, Marshaan 366 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: was not in the game against the Eagles there on 367 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, But I mean, have they have the 368 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles player has been asked about Marshawn and plug 369 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: plus like, how how do you think that the Eagles 370 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: are going to approach having a guy at Marshaan's caliber 371 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: going up against him in the Commander secondary? 372 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, A Day and DeVante have not spoken to the 373 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: media yet. They yesterday with the media availability, so they'll 374 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: speak today or tomorrow, and I'm sure they'll be asked 375 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: about Marshawn Lattimore. A great football player, big addition to 376 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: the Washington Commander's defense changes things for sure. 377 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: Gives matchup option to. 378 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: Dan Quinn in that defense, and you can go one 379 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: on one with confidence with Marshall Lattimore. That said, the 380 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: Eagles have multiple weapons here and aj is, if in 381 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: fact it is aj Aj is a very very difficult 382 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: guy to match up against. And so Marshawn Lattimore is 383 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: is and with the coaches I have talked about him. 384 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: Excellent football player and the Eagles know him very well 385 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: from years past when he was with New Orleans and 386 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: was just a shutdown quarterback. So if he is able 387 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: to match up against a J. Brown, it'll be a 388 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: an epic battle and. 389 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: Respect for both players. 390 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: But again, the Eagles believe that they've got enough options 391 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: that if AJ is quote unquote taken away, they go 392 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: somewhere else. And that's the beauty of this offense. That's 393 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: kind of the way it's been all season. I think 394 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: that Marshall Lattimore is a big plus for the Washington Commanders, 395 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: but there's more to stop. 396 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: So really, the truth is with his Eagles offense this. 397 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: Year, when they have not turned the football over, they 398 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: have been outstanding and in the ten game winning streak, 399 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: they've done a really good job of ball security and 400 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: that's why they're winning. So there are other options. But 401 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: if you if you're able to take a J. Brown out, 402 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 4: and that is the Commander's wish right, that is the goal. 403 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 4: If you are able to take him out of the offense, 404 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: you are taking out a huge part of the Eagles 405 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 4: arsenal and the passing game, will you have to look 406 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: elsewhere and potentially really struggle. 407 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was I was thinking, you know, the 408 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: other day, it seems like aj would be the be 409 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: the easy choice to go up against Marshaw because one 410 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: of Marshawn's biggest skill sets is that he's really good 411 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: in man coverage. Well, AJ Brown is real good at 412 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: beating man coverage. So I would expect that you're going 413 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: to They're going to see a lot of each other 414 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday, now, Scott, Like you know, I mentioned earlier 415 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: about the way that the Commandeers have adjusted the way 416 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: that they've they've done their personnel with Marshau and there 417 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: he is now a starter. Seems like Mark sanderstill is 418 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be on the opposite of him, know, agban 419 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Agny is going to be the slock corner. What do 420 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: you think about that current iteration of the secondary and 421 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: do you see that as the most viable option going forward? 422 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it absolutely has to be with you 423 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: look at you know, again with Latimore bringings to the table, 424 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: you know in Saint rostral Is, I think with the 425 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: top player in terms of past defense this year, and 426 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 5: of course he's been tested because he's the rookie and 427 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: obviously has a couple of picks so far, and I 428 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 5: ben Ageny has done a nice job overall. I mean, 429 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 5: he's you know, he's he's played a few different ways 430 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: for them, and you know, he's kind of been a 431 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: guy who's you know, his role has changed at times. 432 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: And you can say the same thing with with Saint 433 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: Ristral as well, because I think initially everybody thought he 434 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 5: would just be a slot and then that they clearly 435 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 5: had to make a decision there. So I definitely think 436 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: this is the best group that they have, and you know, 437 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 5: you just hope you can keep him on the field 438 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 5: together and and you know, another side note is we'll 439 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: see how healthy the secondary the safety situation is this 440 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 5: week with Jeremy Chin, you know, after that concussion they 441 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: sustained in New Orleans in the protocol this week. 442 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was out on the field on Wednesday. 443 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Now you know, we were recording this on Thursday before practice, 444 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll see how he's how he's doing. It 445 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: seemed like he's at least on the path, but again 446 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: with concussion protocols, you never really know. Hers is kind 447 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: of in the same position there he was a non 448 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: injured related rest slash concussion concussion person on the injury report, 449 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: so we'll see if he's actually out there at practice 450 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday. But yeah, you're right, I mean the secondary 451 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: is it's going to be interesting to see how they've 452 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: how they ad just going forward. It seems like that's 453 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: going to be the path with sammer Still and a Gonogny, 454 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: But we shall see. Because the Eagles present a lot 455 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: of different challenges here, we're all we're up against the clocks. 456 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna move on to the last question here, more 457 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: of a general one. You know, there we've mentioned a 458 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: lot of big players here. You know, between Aja the 459 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: marshaw on Nolli's are the players. But you know, games 460 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: are obviously always won by more than just those key 461 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: impact players. So, Dave, for the Eagles, what's one player 462 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: aside from these other big names that we've talked about, 463 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: who you think could have a really big impact on 464 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: Sunday's outcome. 465 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: You know, he had a huge impact on the first game. 466 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: And his name is Jalen Carter and he's a second 467 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: year player, interior defensive lineman. He is a dominant, dominant 468 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: football player. He has seven tackles against Washington. You know, 469 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 4: you reference Zach that fourth down play. He really is 470 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: the one who blew it up from the jump. 471 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: He has a lot to handle. 472 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm sure Washington has watched him, and he usually is 473 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: double team sometimes triple teams. I think that Jalen Carter 474 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: is such a dynamic, game wrecking player that with Washington 475 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 4: running the football as well as they did, find a 476 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: way to control Jalen Carter, nobody's really had that answer. 477 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 4: He has emerged as one of the top defensive linemen 478 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 4: in the NFL. I think that he's probably priority number 479 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: one up front for the Washington Commanders. 480 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh, he absolutely is in a defense that is full 481 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: of studs. He has. 482 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: He was the most disruptive of thinking that in that 483 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: first matchup, and I think, you know, I mean obviously 484 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: becoming his off the line are going to take every 485 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: single player seriously, but you have to you have to 486 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: really account for him because he is just he's a 487 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: monster up front, all right, Scott, same question, But on 488 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: the commander side, what's one other player you think besides 489 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: the big names, who's going to have a nose wing 490 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: pact on Sunday's outcome. 491 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: Well, Frankie Louvu. 492 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you're talking about defense, and last 493 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 5: game was awesome. I mean he had you know, a 494 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: couple of sacks, a couple three quarterback hits I think 495 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: as well, multiple double digit and tackles. I mean he 496 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: was everywhere. And again I just think with with again 497 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 5: the additional Lattimore, you know this, do you just feel 498 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: like guys like Louvu they could they can be a 499 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 5: little bit more creative with them as well, And I 500 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 5: think that that's going to be fun to watch and 501 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: see how he does. And again, you know, talking about 502 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 5: trying to shut down take one Barkley, I mean, he's 503 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 5: going to be a guy who's going to have to 504 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 5: meet him in a hole and get him the grounds, 505 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: you know, and then if Chin's not in there, then 506 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 5: it's going to have to be maybe Forrester or you know, 507 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: Percy Beultler that does it. 508 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: But to me, Luv was. 509 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 5: Really kind of the the interesting chess piece for them 510 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 5: on defense really every week, but really especially against this 511 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 5: tough team. 512 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're right, And you know, I asked a 513 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: similar question last week in if Liam the match being 514 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: the Saints and uh, the Frankie Livia was brought up again, 515 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: and I think I think that's absolutely correct because he 516 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: really is just like this versattle piece and now obviously 517 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: not comparing the players in terms of skills sets rightly 518 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: of that, but like he does seem a little Micah 519 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Parsons ish in terms of how they've how Danklin moved 520 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: him around whenever DC at the Cowboys, and it seems 521 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: like Frankie is is. 522 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: Doing a lot of that as well. 523 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: It nearly had an interception against He's able to just 524 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: keep his hands on the ball there, which really would 525 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: have had a significant outcome impact on the outcome. But yeah, 526 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's really special player. He's 527 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: he's the lifeblood of that defense in so many ways. 528 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: And that's why I think, Scott, you have to take 529 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: the win here because I think you mentioned that batch 530 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: between say Coon Barkley. I think he's going to be 531 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: a huge factor in that. So, Scott, first picture on 532 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: the beatdown, do you have any passing words of victory 533 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: for us? 534 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 5: Well, I was I was really gonna be disappointed if 535 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 5: I didn't. With home field advantage against the Eagles insider, 536 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: I would have felt like there's something wrong and with 537 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 5: this thing, and I probably would approached. I would have 538 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 5: called the league officers. Frankly, I was gonna I wasn't 539 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 5: gonna take it. Well, but thank you, I'll take this. 540 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 5: I don't know what the prize is. I'll wait for 541 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: it in the mail though, excited to see it whenever 542 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: it gets here. 543 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: Zac, thank you mail. 544 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know there's a joke there, but we're gonna 545 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: we're not gonna catch on it. With that being said, 546 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: Dave Scott, thank you very very much for joining me 547 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: on this episode. And like Scott hope with the Commanders 548 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: will be coming out of Northwest Stadium with a huge 549 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: win over the Eagles and delaying their NFC Eastron for 550 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: at least another week. Thank you very much for listening. 551 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: You can rate, review, subscribe wherever you get your podcast. 552 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: And this has been the Beatdown