1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brading. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They call 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: producer Paul, Mission controlled decand most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It's the top of the 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: week as we are hurtling headlong into summer. Congratulations. If 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: you've made it this far, fellow conspiracy realists, long time listeners, 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: you will know this is one of our favorite parts 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: of the week. It's time for some strange news. We 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: dig through the chaos of the world and the world 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: within and the world without, and we find the stories 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: that either haven't made it to the news or haven't 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: gotten the scrutiny they deserve. We're going to talk a 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: little bit about the ring Graiths that run the Supreme 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: Court of the United States. We're gonna talk a little 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: bit about biblical apocrypha, and we're going to talk a 21 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: little bit about true crime. We can't wait to bring 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: these stories to you. Maybe our first story starts over 23 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: in New Zealand. We've got a lot of listeners in 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: New Zealand, many of whom are fans of religious history, 25 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: many of whom are fans of biblical lore. And no, 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: I think that's where our first story takes us. Because 27 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: not all Bibles are the same, are they? No, they're not. 28 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: They're the nature of translation and um printing and distribution 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: makes the whole trajectory of the Holy Bible a very 30 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: interesting one. As we know, the King James version of 31 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the Bible is the one that largely kind of proliferated 32 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: far and wide, and inherent in that translation is you know, 33 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: some political leanings kind of of King James, the first 34 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: um who was responsible for you know, this whole giant 35 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: boom in printing of the Bible. UM He essentially under 36 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: his rule encouraged or perhaps decreed even um as many 37 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: anyone that owned a printing press to you know, so 38 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: what they were doing and just print copies of the Bible. 39 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: One such printer made a grievous error in that printing 40 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: run UM. It was in sixteen thirty one UH in 41 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: London over a year or roughly a full year after 42 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: the King James Bible was published, that this error was 43 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: discovered and a very angry Charles the First demanded satisfaction. 44 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: What was this typo, you might ask? What could possibly 45 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: create such a kerfuffle? While it was enough of a 46 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: of a doozy that Um, this particular version of the 47 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: Bible has earned a delightfully um body nickname, I guess, 48 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: the Wicked Bible. Um. It is because in the printing 49 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: of Exodus, it was discovered that a very crucial word 50 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: was left out of of one of the ten commandments, 51 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: from the one about adultery. Specifically, Uh, it's the seventh commandment, Um, 52 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: thou shalt not commit adultery. Well, they left out a 53 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: pretty crucial word. It was the word not. So in 54 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: this in this version of the Bible, there's a there's 55 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: basically an a line item in what is meant to 56 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: be the most important rules you know of of all 57 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: of of creation of all living things to follow, um, 58 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: completely flipping the meaning of it. So it's based essentially 59 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: encouraging people to commit adultery. Um thou shalt commit adultery 60 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: is what it says. And you can go to an 61 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: article in the Washington Post called The Bible Museum's Wicked Bible. 62 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Thou shalt Thou shalt commit adultery by Danine L. Brown 63 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: get a little bit more of a rundown and actually 64 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: has a pull from the printing. And it's um, you know, 65 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: it's got an image of of like being measured um. 66 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: And it's uh, you know, like like an artifact in 67 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: and of itself, this misprint. I love the idea of 68 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: a famous misprint. I can't really think of too many 69 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: others off the top of my head. If any I 70 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: don't know, do you guys, he has to think of 71 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: any like big gaffs in a In an addition, I mean, 72 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: I there, we would have to be something so huge 73 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: like this that would be such a massive embarrassment for 74 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: a you know, central figure that commanded, you know, essentially 75 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: hijacked everyone's printing presses to create a thing that he 76 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: so harmly believed in. But I can't really think of 77 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: any There are multiple examples that sometimes become the obscure 78 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: origins various conspiratorial thoughts or schools of thought rather than uh, 79 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, authoritative things. Maybe one of the most common 80 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: experiences for people in the modern day would be misprints 81 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: or misfires in coins or in paper currency. Right, that's 82 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: an authoritative text that that gets uh, that gets mistranslated, 83 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: or you know, accidents happen, and then those accidents can 84 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: seem as though they are calculated, as though they are 85 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: purposely created. Now, no, I hear that people are calling 86 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: this the wicked Bible. Has have people taken this serious 87 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: sleep like over over time? Has this misprint been used 88 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: or leveraged by opportunists to seem as though the Christian 89 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: God is in fact championing the idea of adultery? Or 90 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: is it sort of an historical curiosity? I think it's 91 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: a bit of historical curiosity, I'm sure. By by by 92 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the way back story, before I finished that thought, I 93 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: mentioned that the King James version of the Bible was 94 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: the big massive to do printing of the Bible. This 95 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: was about thirty years after um, the King James version 96 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: of the Bible. This and and this, So this was 97 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: overseen by King Charles the first, who I believe directly 98 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: succeeded King James. Uh, if I'm not mistaken, but I'm 99 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: not sent on that, but it has to be pretty close. 100 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: So he would have been carrying on the legacy of 101 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: of the King James Bible and it was, you know, 102 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: a full year to answer your question then, before the 103 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: misprint was even discovered. And I found this on Reddit, 104 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the offbeat reddit thread which you recommended. Ben's quite good 105 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: and some of the chatter on the thread was people 106 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: kind of pointing to this as an example of the 107 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: fact that Christians don't always read every word of the 108 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: Bible with that much, uh, that much specificity. Um, so 109 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a biggie to go unnoticed for 110 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: a full year, is all I'm saying. Yeah, I mean 111 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: this section is is talked about often, whether it's a 112 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Bible or a Torah, this section of Exodus where it's 113 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, the ten commandments that Moses had on the tablets. 114 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: When I'm saying that, we're you know that God inscribed himself, 115 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: So like this is a big deal, uh, And if 116 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: God is commanding everybody to do that, it's yeah, it 117 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: seems like somebody would notice because you're assuming they're reading 118 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: it and during regular you know, whether it's a Torah 119 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: or Bible study or a sermon. I just I love 120 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: the the idea that some some rabbi or pastor was 121 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: just preparing for that week's thing, just reading it through, 122 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: even copied it down, but just in their mind because 123 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: they've read that passage so many times, it doesn't even 124 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: say thou shalt commit adultery on the page to them. 125 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: In their mind, it just says thou shalt not commit 126 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: adulters until everybody who's got one of those books in 127 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: front of them. I love it. I love it. I 128 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: love it. It's like when it's like when young Christian 129 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: kids start reading, uh, what is it the Book of Songs, 130 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: which is super racy, right, and they're like, how am 131 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: I reading this in the church? I also, I also 132 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: love the idea of well, love is a strong word. 133 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: I am fascinated by the idea of a maybe not 134 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: not the best religious figure saying this is the way 135 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: I can this is the way I can spend stuff. 136 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: You know, God said you have to do it, you 137 00:08:53,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: have to commit adultery. It wasn't me. It's in black 138 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: and way, and guys, I'm bearing the lead a little 139 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: bit because I felt like it was necessary to go, 140 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, into what this thing was. I'd never heard 141 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: of it, and I think it's super fascinating. But the 142 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: news peg of this is that A there's only like 143 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: eleven of these remaining because King Charles was pushed, uh 144 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: he revoked these printers licenses. These printers Robert Parker and 145 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Martin Lucas, they were summoned to appear before the king. Um. 146 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: He they were you know, excoriated publicly. Uh. They were 147 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: stripped of their licenses. They had a three hundred pound fine, 148 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: which back in those days would have been a like, 149 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I think, like a life ruining literally, yeah, held over 150 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: their heads. It was apparently eventually relinquished. But um, the 151 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: texts were ordered to be rounded up and destroyed, and 152 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: there are apparently roughly only twenty or so in circulation. 153 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: One of them is on display in that Bible museum 154 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: that I mentioned. This is in Washington, D C. It's 155 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: called the Bible Museum, and it apparently costs about a 156 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: half a billion dollars. The facility is being touted as 157 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: a five a new five hundred million uh dollar museum 158 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: of the Bible. Excuse me which opened in Washington, d C. Uh, 159 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: And that was back in seventeen So that is apparently 160 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: the best Bible museum game in town. Um. But a 161 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: new another version of this has been discovered in New Zealand, 162 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: of all places, in christ Church. UM, so let's see. 163 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, who's an associate professor in medieval Studies at 164 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: the University UH and fellow of the Society of Antiquaries 165 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: in London, said on Monday, it's a mystery, it's fascinating 166 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: and it's made its way halfway around the world. Um. 167 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: And the University of Canterbury in christ Church received this 168 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: Bible when it was discovered all the way back in 169 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: but they decided to keep it UM quiet so that 170 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: they could verify at and research it and make sure 171 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: that the groundwork was laid for it to be preserved, 172 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: because I don't know, it sounds to me like this 173 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing that certain religious Zealots don't 174 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: want to exist, would be like upset by the very 175 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: existence of But a student of Jones, the medieval studies 176 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: guy from London, actually found a copy of the Bible 177 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: at an estate sale UM and it was owned by 178 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: a book binder who had passed away Don Hampshire who 179 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: came to New Zealand in the late nineteen fifties from 180 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom, and he died in christ church there 181 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: in New Zealand in two thousand nine. Uh. And that's that. 182 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: That is the state sale that the student found this. 183 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't say how much they paid for it, but 184 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe it was acknowledged that it was something 185 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: like absurdly rare or remarkable. Um. Let see Jones former 186 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: student told him she believed it was a wicked Bible, 187 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: but he was quote very disbelieving because these are super 188 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: super rare items. Um. And then they were able to 189 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: confirm that that that is what it is. There's also 190 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: one more very gaffy uh misprint in it. Let's see. Yeah. 191 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: So in Deuteronomy five, it was supposed to proclaim the 192 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: quote great ness and this is like some sort of 193 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: Old English adjacent language that would have been spelled uh 194 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: g R E A T N E S S E 195 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: of God. But instead the Wicked Bible, instead of saying greatness, 196 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: it says the word great ass like hyphenated A S, 197 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: S E F R the Uh. Yeah, I know, the 198 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: full sentence would have been and he said, behold the Lord, 199 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: our God hath showed us his glory and his greatness. Yeah. 200 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the It reminds me of some 201 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: great satirical websites or algorithms I've seen where and did 202 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: an automated search find throughout the Bible, so it replaces 203 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: certain terms with uh, you guys instead of instead of 204 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: like humans or whatever. It says. Uh, oh gosh, I'll 205 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: have to find it one day, but uh, conspiracy realists 206 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: send it in. You know what I'm talking about. Uh, 207 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: it's you can find any number of these that are 208 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: sort of they're sort of satirizing a long history, hidden 209 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: history of satire that exists in monastic um subcultures, right, 210 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: Like we all know friars and various orders of monks 211 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: kind of got down when they were illuminating all those scripts. 212 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: And that's why you can look at handwritten manuscripts of 213 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: biblical lore and see all sorts of kind of in 214 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: the margin illustrations that were clearly someone having fun and 215 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: then later became cannon two successive generations. This sounds like 216 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: an honest misprint, not a purposeful misprint. But we also 217 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: have to realize before the age of the internet, printed 218 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: word was taken pardon my word play here as gospel. 219 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: So if there was a misprint in like I know, Matt, 220 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: shake your head, but I'm right. But like, if there 221 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: if there, if there was, if there was a misprint, 222 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: intentional or accidental, then there was a very high likelihood, 223 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: especially in the early days of the printed word and 224 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: and the handwritten word, that it would be it would 225 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: be taken seriously. A lot of jokes over the Great 226 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Game of Historical Telephone become treated as true. That's a 227 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: good point, uh, that there is a mention in this 228 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Washington Post article that some folks have conjectured, Uh, this 229 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: could have been a bit of a gag. Uh. It 230 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: makes me think of some of the little secret things 231 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: that are hidden in some Disney movies. Um, that likely 232 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: would have been the result of rogue animators or editors 233 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: or voice you know fully artists or whatever. Like in 234 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: The Laddin they very clearly here in the early VHS 235 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: versions a scene where Prince Aladdin says, good teenagers take 236 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: off their clothes like it's it's just there. I'm not 237 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: making that this is a thing, this exists, like, I 238 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: don't know. They must have gotten rid of it for 239 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: the DVD reissues and blue rays and subsequent things. But 240 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid someone told me about it 241 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: a friend and I watched it over and over again. 242 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I was just thought it was the most remarkable thing 243 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: I'd ever heard. Um in those days printing would have 244 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: been taken incredibly seriously and overseen with a with a 245 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: very um heavy level of rigor. And if it had 246 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: just been the one right, um, the the the commandment, 247 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: which by the way, I mean, that's just such a biggie, 248 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, like as complex as like biblical text is. 249 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: That is a one shot, you know, bullet point, clear 250 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: as day, um, declaration of a thing. And it left 251 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: out the most important word and then the whole God's 252 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: got a good, great ass thing. I want to say 253 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: it in uh and um al Pacino's voice, but I'm 254 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: not going to go there. Um. That also seems like 255 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: if it's you know, one thing, maybe would have been 256 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: a goof two at that level of specificity, and like, 257 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, the way it changes the meaning, it feels 258 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: a little intentional to me. If we're going for puccino, 259 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: it would be like, m will you carry it all 260 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: those bricks for Kevin? I'm a humanist. I can't remember who. 261 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember who I know. I think it was 262 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: It's like God's got our greatest you know like that's 263 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: that's the well read your bibles. Carefully read your Bibles, 264 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: carefully study them chapter in verse, and make sure you're 265 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: not dealing with a weird bait and switch version, because 266 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: you might be practicing your golden rule completely incorrectly. It is. 267 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: It's the best example I've heard in a long time 268 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: that shows exactly the problems that we've illustrated in the 269 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: past in translation and printing. Uh. If you've got a 270 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: story that is so old and in the game of 271 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: telephone that you mentioned, there have been uh yeah, it 272 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: really just is. This is a really great example. One 273 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: thing goes wrong, and now everybody who follows moving forward 274 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: thinks that was the right thing, and now everybody's doing 275 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Wow, that's crazy to not anyone. Uh. 276 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: And I didn't know a thing about it, So I 277 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: learned something. I hope you all did too. Uh. Let's 278 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: take a quick break and be back with more stuff 279 00:17:52,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: to learn from the strange news. All right, we are back, 280 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: and we are jumping to a story coming to us 281 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: from the Bahamas via the Miami Herald. Here is basically 282 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: the story, and then we'll jump into more details in 283 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: the sandals Emerald Bay resort. That is our place. This 284 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: is in the island of Great Exuma g R e 285 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: A t E x U m A. It is Friday. 286 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: Isn't that where Firefest was? Oh? I don't know. I 287 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: don't think I think it was. It was on one 288 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: of the islands called I mean there might be a 289 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: great one in a minor one, but almost nearly positive 290 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: that's where fire Sorry they had to go. Well, yeah, 291 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: it must be different than the fire one because this 292 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: is this is a a large island that has a 293 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: major resort on it. So we're gonna We're in this 294 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: major resort called Emerald Bay, and it is Friday, May six. 295 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: It is in the morning. Hotel staff at this resort 296 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: discover one unresponsive person inside one of the resorts villas. 297 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: Then they find two more unresponsive people in a different villa. 298 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: Then the Royal Bahamas Police Force is notified. Almost immediately, 299 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: the police force begins investigating, and according to the Miami Herald, 300 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: quote in the first villa, officers found a dead man 301 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: on the ground in a bedroom with quote no signs 302 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: of trauma. In the second villa, they found a dead 303 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: man slumped against a wall in a bathroom and a 304 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: dead woman on the bed, any any indication of the 305 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: manner of death, not at first, at least when when 306 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: these when the first report started coming out, there was 307 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: a CNN article and a couple other articles that were 308 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: coming from that. We're giving the absolute smallest amount of knowledge, 309 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: just three people found dead. Uh. Then immediately it was 310 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: known that there was a fourth victim of something that 311 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: was rush to a hospital in Nassau and then ended 312 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: up being airlifted to Miami for further medical attention. So 313 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 1: it appears that this was some kind of medical emergency 314 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: that was going on, or three people at least were murdered. 315 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: Nobody knows, right, So then the police continued to investigate 316 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: and they found that the two individuals that were found 317 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: in the second villa, the man and the woman, they 318 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: had both showed signs of convulsion, and they continued examining 319 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: those bodies, but they found no signs of trauma. So 320 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: convulsion but trauma, which means it seems as though there 321 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: was something occurring internally inside those people that caused their deaths. Then, 322 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: you guys, the police learned that that couple that showed 323 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: convulsion no trauma, they had felt unwell, They felt sick, 324 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: and they went to a local area hospital there in 325 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: the Bahamas, or at least a medical facility, sought treatment 326 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: because they felt unwell, and then went on back to 327 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: their resort and next thing anyone else knows, they're discovered dead. Wait, 328 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: so they went to a medical professional and they checked 329 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: in and that those those docks or those r nds 330 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't didn't clock anything that would make them impatient. They said, 331 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: just go on your way. I end patient, by the way, 332 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: not yeah exactly. Yeah, you're you're feeling unwell. It's probably 333 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: this or that. Maybe here's some you know, medicine to 334 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: feel a little better. But at least as far as 335 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: we know right now, they were not kept overnight for observation. 336 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: They weren't kept for any other reason, so they were 337 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: just sent home. Um. The office of the Prime Minister 338 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: there in the Bahamas confirmed that all three people were 339 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: American tourists. One one of the victims or the people 340 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: that died, it's it's tough to say victims because you who, 341 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: we don't know what happened. One of the people that 342 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: passed uh was possibly identified by this person's son because 343 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: according to this person named Austin, who was speaking with 344 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: ABC News. His mother is the person the fourth person 345 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: who was flown to Miami for medical treatment, and his 346 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: father is the single man that was found dead in 347 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: the room. I'm not gonna give the full names or 348 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: anything like that. I want to put their whole world 349 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: out there. You can read. There's an ABC News story 350 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: that you can read if you want to learn all 351 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: of that. It's a sad story. They were they were 352 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: celebrating their anniversary there in the Bahamas when whatever occurred occurred. 353 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: I want to jump quickly to the statement from the 354 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: Sandals resort because this is the kind of thing I 355 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: don't know. It's still really reason to read it. You 356 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: can imagine what a resort would say when something to 357 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: horrible like this happens. Right, something bad happened. We're investigating it, 358 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell we'll share everything in a timely manner 359 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: that we learn and uh, we're taking care of our 360 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: guests and you know, this is a tragedy. That's basically 361 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: what they said. I won't read you the whole thing. 362 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: You can read it, though. Sandals put out a statement. 363 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: Michael Scott's stafford place in the world. This is this 364 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: is the firefest Island by the way. There there is 365 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: a resort there and then there's like swimming pigs and stuff. 366 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. This is absolutely for the Firefest Island. 367 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: Nothing that matters. I just had to put that to 368 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: bed for anyone screaming at their radio. Got it okay, 369 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: So Firefest occurred here. Um, I just want to give 370 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: you one more piece of information that I've got here 371 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: coming from Fox forty and Jackson. But I believe this 372 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: is it's one of those reposts that's tough for me 373 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: to track down where this story actually originated from, but 374 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: it's a statement from that same person, Austin and Uh. 375 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: The statement was that when his mother awoke in Miami 376 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: like kind of came out of it whatever she was 377 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: dealing with, she was unable to move, so she was 378 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: at least temporarily paralyzed. Now that's a statement that I 379 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: can't really confirm. I can't tell you like what that 380 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: meant or how long that state of paralysis existed or 381 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: whether she came out of it, because we just don't 382 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: have the information right now. But I'm just adding that 383 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: to the small amount of information that we do know 384 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: at this point. And I would give you just a 385 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: couple of things that the resort is looking into. Where 386 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: are the possible reasons that all these people fell ill 387 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: and then did pass? Immediately my mind goes to food poisoning. 388 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: What about you, guys, what do you think I mean 389 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: that'd be That would be one of the most unfortunately, 390 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: one of the most common uh ailments that people will 391 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: encounter in that part of the world. If they're not 392 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: from that part of the world. There could also be 393 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: the possibility of bacterial infection of a viral. It's it's tough. 394 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: It's tough to guess, especially given the limited information we 395 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: have now. Right like there, there's clearly some sort of 396 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: internal cause, but pending an autopsy, it's tough. There there 397 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: are a lot of possibilities here. I'm with you, though, Matt. 398 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Food poisoning seems like or at least like bacteria or 399 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: virus transmitted somehow through water food intake. Those seem like 400 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: very common candidates. So the authorities are working with the 401 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: resort to look at those exact kind of things. Been 402 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the water heater that's present on in both of the villas, 403 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: just to see if there's any substances in that water 404 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: heater or any kind of bacteria or other thing that 405 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: could cause an infection. The air conditioner to see if 406 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: something had become or could have become airborne that affected them. Uh, 407 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: the gas supply, so the propane supply there, because gas 408 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: leaks could cause something really bad like that, Um, you know. 409 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: And something another thing that jumped in my mind was 410 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide poisoning. And again you you wouldn't really know 411 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: until you get that autopsy. But they are in the 412 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: there are in these villas where there's not a ton 413 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: of cars and other things that generally, uh would have 414 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide as an exhaust. So it's probably very unlikely 415 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: that occurred. I just quickly was gonna go. I started 416 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: going over the symptoms of things like food poisoning, carbon monoxide. Uh, 417 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 1: what was the other one? General gas leak poisoning. So 418 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: natural gas leaks that occur in your house. And guys, 419 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that all of these things share so 420 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: many symptoms, and I was giving myself a little anxiety 421 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: thinking about it. I didn't know a gas leak in 422 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: your home, let's say, like a natural gas leak from 423 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: one of the pipes that's in my house was built 424 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: in the nineteen. If there's a gas leak, hopefully I 425 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: would smell that gas, because there is stuff added to 426 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: it to get me and anyone else to smell it, 427 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: so we'll be aware that there's a gas leak. But 428 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: if I didn't notice, or for I was asleep when 429 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: it occurred, and enough had gone into my body and 430 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: I taken in enough um, all the same things headache, dizziness, nausea, 431 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: I and throwed, irritation, fatigue, breathing problems. All of this stuff. 432 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: It's shared with carbon monoxide poisoning. It's shared with food poisoning, 433 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: except with food poisoning you get more of the ejections 434 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: of things like vomit and yeah, so diplomatic, more of 435 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: the ejections, yeah, I love it, I love it. No, 436 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: you're you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right, and that this 437 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: this remains a mystery unless an autopsy occurs, unless a 438 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: public autopsy occurs, and it should be happening today as 439 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: we record this on Monday, May night. At least, the 440 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: thought is that autopsy results will be back by today 441 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: at some point. If they're not back right now as 442 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: a recording, I haven't checked the news in a few 443 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: minutes But anyway, this is just something to keep in 444 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: mind when you're traveling anywhere, no matter where you're from 445 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: and where you're going, if you're in a different environment, 446 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: a different location, just be aware of your water and 447 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: your food. Make sure you cook that food all the way. Yes. Yes, 448 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and even as even as people who are clearly aware 449 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: of the problems posed by plastics, it may be in 450 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: your best interests to drink bottled water when you're in 451 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: an unfamiliar part of the world. Uh, no matter how 452 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: luxurious it is. Yes, just so I look, I I 453 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: know we're gonna finish here. I just want to give 454 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: you guys a quick personal story. It's kind of gross, 455 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: but I once traveled to a Caribbean place. Let's say, 456 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name where where it was, but 457 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: it was at one of these resorts that was all 458 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: inclusive in a great place. It was for an event, 459 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: a life event, and everything was wonderful. The food was amazing. 460 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: But then I got on the plane heading home and 461 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I started feeling really sick and I just couldn't I 462 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: couldn't handle anything. I was dizzy, I was sleepy, and 463 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: I had a fever. On the plane, I developed a fever, 464 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: got home and found out that I was, in fact 465 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: dealing with some severe, severe here food poisoning. Uh. And 466 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: thank goodness, I got to a doctor in time. That's 467 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm still here. But it was bad. It was very bad. 468 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: Did you get some involuntary lessons in two step dancing 469 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: or did you get what'd you call them earlier? Some injections? 470 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: There were ejections? Yes, um, so the total mass ejections 471 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: rather thank Corontal. Oh boy, Well, yeah, man, you're here, 472 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: you're here. I think I remember this story and h 473 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: for anybody, for anybody who was unaware, Uh, Matt's off 474 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: air retelling of this is amazing. No, actually it's bad. 475 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, just just a reminder, reminder, you know, be 476 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: safe and this really terrible tragic thing. Hopefully it is 477 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: something that is just fixable and won't happen again. But 478 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: it definitely makes me um nervous about doing that kind 479 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: of thing where you're you're just giving total control over 480 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: of your environment over to a company that you know 481 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: is supposed to be really good at taking care of people, 482 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: and that's true in all of the hospitality industry. So 483 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: it is just weird to think about, right when you 484 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: go to a hotel like it's well, I'm in their 485 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: hands now. I hope all the infrastructure works and there 486 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: are no gas leaks and my food is going to 487 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: be cooked. It's weird to think about. All Right, that's it. 488 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear a word from our sponsor and we'll 489 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: be right back with more strange news. And we have 490 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: returned with one last piece of strange news. This is 491 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: a hot button issue for some people. It is a 492 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: matter of sanctity for other people. It is a matter 493 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: of personal threat. For everyone listening today, regardless of your ideology, 494 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: this is a matter of great import. Recently, something unprecedented 495 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: occurred with the Supreme Court of the United States. One 496 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: of their decisions was leaked before it when public and official. 497 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: So uh, brief side note. If you are not from 498 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: the United States, or if you live in the US 499 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: and you've ever had to kind of explain the Supreme 500 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Court to your friends who are not from the US, sadly, 501 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: one of the best ways to do it is through analogy, 502 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: and I increasingly have resorted to describing the Supreme Court 503 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: of the US in the following way. There are nine 504 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: individuals wrapped in black, and there and their appearances they have. 505 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: There's no real mechanism to take them away from their jobs. Uh, 506 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: And they pursue what they see as their own aims. Theoretically, 507 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: it's the law of the land. Anyway, long story short. 508 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: If you want to explain the Supreme Court to your 509 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: friends who are not from the US, or if you 510 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: are not from the US and you want to understand 511 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court in this country, the best comparison is 512 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: sadly the Ring races from Tolkien. They don't run for elections. 513 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: There are nine of them. There's always around in the sound. Yes, 514 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: it's like static and no man, no man may, no 515 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: man may end them right, right, well, not quite not 516 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: questions right? And Tolkien was almost certainly not referencing the 517 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Nor was he, by the way, referencing nuclear 518 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: weaponry in Lord of the Rings. Just a nerd fact. 519 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: He was not aware of atomic power while he was 520 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: writing it. But recently this place, the Supreme Court had 521 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: a leak, had a whistleblower. This has not happened in 522 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: the modern history of this court. Someone burned down their 523 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: career to get the word out to the US public 524 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: about a landmark decision which will go officially public in 525 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: June to revoke one of the most hot button decisions 526 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: of recent US history, a recent US judicial history, which 527 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: was a case called Roe versus Wade, I should say 528 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: is a case called Roe versus Wade. Roe versus Wade 529 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: was a decision from the previous Supreme Court in n 530 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: seventy three that ruled people identifying as women had a 531 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: constitutional right to choose to have an abortion. It was 532 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: proach voice legislation. It said something that many libertarians in 533 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: the audience today can agree with, which is your body 534 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: is your own. And when this leaked, there was center 535 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: me here, Paul. There was a storm across the Internet, 536 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: across jurisprudence, across the performative propaganda of US politics. The 537 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: idea here launched towards two narratives of conspiracy, the first 538 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory being one that came from within the court itself. 539 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Current Chief Justice, as we record this, Roberts has focused 540 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: on finding the source of the leak. Is greatly offended 541 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: by the idea that this institution would have that sort 542 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: of transparent see, especially in a non consensual manner, especially 543 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: towards the public, which has no way to elect these 544 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: officials nor any direct mechanism for impeaching them. Uh. The 545 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: second conspiracy theory is one that its proponents will tell 546 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: you has been at work for several decades, which is 547 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: to remove the right for people to have that kind 548 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: of you know, um, liberty or dominion over their own bodies. 549 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: And then to further the argument goes remove other rights 550 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: that are in theory guaranteed to American citizens. We're talking 551 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: about stuff like same sex marriage. We're talking about stuff 552 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: like even even interracial marriage, which before the loving case, 553 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: let's recall, was also can sidered a criminal offense. At 554 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: this point, at this point, it's tough to tell how 555 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: things will go. And this is this is, I argue, 556 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: strange news because despite the fact that it has been 557 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: widely reported, it is still kind of hinging on history. 558 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: The US and the world which is watching are not sure. 559 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: No one is sure how the pendulum will swing or 560 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: which way the cards will fall. Before we continue, I'd 561 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: like to ask you guys just on the show here 562 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: before we go to our fellow conspiracy realists, how did 563 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: you encounter this news? What were your initial reactions it text? 564 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, I did no, It's true. Keep it after 565 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: a while I was watching my stories and let me 566 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: tell you, let me tell you, made it a made 567 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: it a little hard focus on solid goodman, you know. 568 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: I mean it was yeah, all encompassing. It's the kind 569 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: of news that makes your mind just go reeling and 570 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: and then it starts to you feel in your body 571 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: and you just want to punch something, you know, Fred durstyle. 572 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, man, I just can't stand 573 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: the politicization of the Supreme Court and the and they'll 574 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: argue day in and day out, that's not what this is. 575 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: But the ruling has stood for fifty years, and it 576 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: took somebody to, you know, implant some clearly politicized justices 577 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: into that body to make this happen. It was a goal, 578 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: a stated goal, and then here it is. I don't 579 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: know that. The strange thing to me is trying to 580 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: square those monotonous, terrible hearings that happen every time there's 581 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 1: a new Supreme Court nominee, and every time, every time 582 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: people just handling a barrage of questions from all these 583 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: centers and just saying, you know, almost almost all the 584 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: way across the board, yeah, it's important to look back 585 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: at previous decisions and those are you know, for the 586 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, sacred, we got to do that. 587 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: We should you know, uphold that stuff, use that as 588 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: our guide. Almost everybody that gets actually approved says that 589 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: seems a little weird. It does. It does seem a 590 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: little bit odd, but you know, uh, Unfortunately in this 591 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: country since its inception, there has been a discrepancy between 592 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: the honeymoon period of campaigning right and the de facto 593 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: practice period of action. Want to give a special shout 594 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: out to Politico, especially the journalist Josh Gerstein and Alexander 595 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: Ward who on the second of May release the article, 596 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: and thank you all if you were listening, for not 597 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: putting this behind a paywall. It reads simply, Supreme Court 598 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: has voted to overturn abortion rights. Draft opinion shows So 599 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: what these journalists and their sources in Politico found was 600 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: what's called a draft majority opinion. This will You don't 601 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: have to be on the Supreme Court, nor do you 602 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: have to be a lawyer nor nor a judge to 603 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: understand what draft majority opinion means. Picture it like, um, 604 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: the weekend before you have to turn in a group 605 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: project at school and you're the one who writes the 606 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: rough draft of what you and your cohort will present, 607 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: and there might be some medits, there might be some revisions, 608 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: there might be some people who want to style on 609 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: their you know, pet project within your group manifesto. But 610 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: overall you're on the same page. And that's the scary 611 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: thing for a lot of people who read this an 612 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: initially when it hit in early May. It shows a 613 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: strong ideological I would argue objection to standing law, which 614 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: was again confirmed by the Supreme Court. There just happened 615 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: to be different justices on the court. In three. Here 616 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: is a quote that I would like to read from 617 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: the political article by Justice Samuel Alito, the author of 618 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: this the one running point quote. Row was egregiously wrong 619 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the 620 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: decision had damaging consequences and far from bringing about a 621 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: national settlement of the abortion issue, Row and Casey have 622 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: inflamed debate and deepened division. Somewhat double thinking, orwell would say, 623 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: I am tempted to agree. Uh. I'd like to also 624 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: point out, just to emphasize what you said earlier, Matt, 625 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: the idea of UH, the idea of performative statements during 626 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: the evaluations of several recently nominated recently appointed justices uh 627 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: several of whom said that they considered Roe v. Wade 628 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: standing law, right standing precedent, said they would not interfere 629 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: with it, ended up doing exactly what they said they 630 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: would not do. Uh nol. This reminds me of our 631 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: our story at the top of this segment. Maybe there 632 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: was a small misprint. Maybe maybe it was like thou 633 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: shalt commit adultery. Maybe when they said we will not 634 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: overturn Roe versus Weight, what they meant to say was 635 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: we will misprint. That's what this is. This is actually 636 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: the minority of it. It's the minority opinion of the 637 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: United States public, that's for sure. About about sixties something, 638 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: a little less than seventy of people in the United 639 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: States support the idea of of people having that kind 640 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 1: of liberty over their own bodies. This now has been 641 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: red meat for a lot of media outlets. Again, when 642 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: you're hearing this, there will be any number of hot takes, 643 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: there will be any number of echo chambers in this regard. 644 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: And I think the important thing to remember is that 645 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: statistically speaking, someone you know has had this procedure done. 646 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: It is a statistical certitude. They may not have talked 647 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: to you about it. The reasons don't matter. It's not 648 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: your business, it's not our own, but our or business. 649 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: Our duty as residents of the United States is to 650 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: hold these institutions accountable. And for quite a while, the 651 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has been um an issue of controversy its existence, 652 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: its decisions, especially the question of whether or not it 653 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: is politicized. For people who felt that Row versus Wade 654 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: was on the chopping block, for people who felt there 655 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: was indeed a an intergenerational conspiracy to overthrow this decision 656 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: to take away your rights. If you're hearing this, now, 657 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: that's what it's about. If you, if you, if you 658 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: side with those people, then this seems like confirmation of 659 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. Now, there are many of us in 660 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: the audience today who would personally never make that sort 661 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: of decision for ourselves, for our own bodies, and that 662 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: is right, that is just that is you. However, there 663 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: are three hundred and twenty three something million other people, 664 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: almost seventy percent of whom say I should not be 665 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: in charge of us strangers. You know, internal mechanisms, and 666 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: this I don't know. It bothers me because I didn't 667 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: expect it to become conspiratorial so quickly. But we cannot 668 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: over emphasize this. Someone burned their career down they did this. 669 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: They are likely if I had to guess, and I'm guessing, 670 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm not pulling any any like binge with some underground 671 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: sources or whatever. I'm guessing entirely on my own speculation. 672 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: This was probably a clerk working for one of the 673 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: judges identifying as conservative, and for some internal calculus of 674 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: their own, they put the word out. They put their 675 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: sense of ethical responsibility over their career. So, regardless of 676 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: where you fall personally on the line of this specific issue, 677 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: I think it is a llustrative of the way decisions 678 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: get made in that institution without the input of the 679 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: American public. Does that sound too out there or is 680 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: that no? That's there is no input of the I mean, 681 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: the input, I guess comes in the form of like 682 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: voting for a president who can then appoint you know, um, 683 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: people to the court who share your values. But you know, 684 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: we even and we see that process get politicized and 685 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: bastardized all the time. I mean, wasn't it McConnell that 686 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: blocked an Obama appointment because of the decorum of it all, 687 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: or something like that, when and when there should have 688 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: easily been he should have had the opportunity to a 689 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: point who he wanted, but that there was this all 690 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: of a sudden, this argument about, oh no, it goes 691 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: against protocol, you're a lame duck, and you shouldn't be 692 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: able to do it. And then, of course, and the 693 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: Trump administration they rammed two appointments through um and then 694 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: argue that it's not politicized, but it so clearly is. 695 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: And you know, there was that whole news item about 696 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: the short list of justices that Trump was pursuing were 697 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: people that would definitely actively based on their actions overturn 698 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade. So it's clear choices leading to an outcome. 699 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: And you know, that's a good point you I would 700 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: also like to point to some historical context that has 701 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: been missed in these conversations. First, yes, there is a 702 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: deflection move on the part of the court and on 703 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: the part of Congress that appointed the current majority of 704 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: the court. And that deflection move is too clutch pearls 705 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: and say how egregious it is for there to be 706 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: a leak in Scotus. That's not the story, though the 707 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: story should be the institutions decisions, the fact that if 708 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: you listen to this show and you reside in the 709 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: United States, you're paying these people, you know what I mean? 710 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: Do you want to say? Uh? And then there's another 711 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: like a long historical context is being missed often just 712 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: to be very objective here a quick level set, as 713 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: they call it in corporate America. You know, the person 714 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: who wrote the opinion on Roe v. Way back in 715 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: three anybody remember for his name? I do. It was 716 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: Justice Harry Blackman, Republican, appointed by then President Nixon. Like this, 717 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: it's not as if it's not as if there is 718 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: some ancient continuing division between the you know, the political 719 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: left and the political right. What's happening is people are 720 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: being taken for a ride by powerful interests, and to 721 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: truly understand what is happening, regardless of which conspiracy theory 722 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 1: one might ascribe to, there's a lot of information that 723 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: has is not being given. It's uh. I don't always 724 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: say it's day in court, it's stay in the court 725 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: of public opinion. Maybe in the way things are being reported, 726 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: and you know, we have had to be quite honest 727 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: with you. We have had over the years many people, 728 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: many of your fell the listeners, who have written in 729 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:10,959 Speaker 1: with their own experiences regarding regarding very troubling things. And 730 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: with this case right now, we have to ask ourselves 731 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: as a group, not just Matt, Noel, Michig, Control, Doc 732 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: and and yours, truly we have to ask ourselves what 733 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: this means. Is this the beginning of a slippery sloop? Right? 734 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: Is this the beginning of as as some people put 735 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: it on Twitter, Handmade's tale becoming reality rather than science fiction. 736 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: It's very troubling. You know, if you're listening to this, 737 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: you have a mom, right and if you uh, you 738 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: may be a mother listening to this show right now. Now. 739 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: We are not any of us members of the Supreme Court, 740 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: thank goodness US. I don't know if if the three 741 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: of us would be qualified to issue jurisprudence, A lot 742 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: of mine would be. I don't think any of us 743 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: have law degrees. I believe that's the very least the prerequisite, 744 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: the minimum prerequisite. Yeah, my credits don't carry to the US, 745 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: I think, and all my rulings would weirdly referenced case ideas. 746 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 1: But the the issue are all written on the backs 747 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: of napkin, right right right on the backs of the 748 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: case adias. I keep eating them, you know. But but 749 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 1: the issue is, the issue is here that the US public, 750 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: regardless of demographic feels weirdly misled. And right now, what 751 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: will happen, the Primarican census is right now, what will 752 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: happen is an accelerating inequality. Like if you if if 753 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade is overturned, and if the right to 754 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: choose what happens to your body becomes a matter of 755 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: state rulings, then the people who have the means to 756 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: travel to another state, we'll simply continue to do so. 757 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: This is the reason why, this is a reason why 758 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: people are advocating that overturning this ruling targets the poor. 759 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: But why why have a referendum on the poor or 760 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: why have on a right that the poor have had? 761 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not don't mean to writ large the poor. 762 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: I just mean people less fortunate, people that don't have 763 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: the means the same as people that, like they say, 764 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: live in food deserts or you know, areas, they don't 765 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: have as many opportunities as far as education, like school 766 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: districts and stuff like that, Like, what does that accomplish? 767 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: Who's making money off of this? I don't get it. 768 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: It just seems like an ideological overreach that is just 769 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: going to hurt people that need it the most, who 770 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: are going to I mean, I saw a mean whatevers, Like, 771 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: you can't outlaw abortion, you can just outlaw safe abortion. 772 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 1: So people that are would that having a child or 773 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: not to mention health concerns, we're carrying a child, the 774 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: term could literally kill you. They're gonna find an abortion, 775 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: whether it's in a back room somewhere, they do it themselves. Um. 776 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: But the people that actually can afford it are gonna 777 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: just go to California or New York or coastal you 778 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: know places and get it done safely. This is going 779 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: to affect people that are already in danger. I just 780 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: don't understand how that's okay on any level, just to 781 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: make a point, just to make just just to make 782 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: some point about what control about God? What's it? I 783 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: don't know, man, that's it. I think I think it 784 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: is ideological, it's religious. It feels that way a tiny bit. Uh, 785 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe both of those smashed together. I was reading through 786 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: just brief things are written in that in the statement 787 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 1: been like nineties something page opinion of the court, And 788 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: it does appear like at least most of what I'm 789 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: reading is an attempt to correct the legal record in 790 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: the opinion of those who hold the majority opinion, Like 791 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,959 Speaker 1: when Roe v. Wade was considered by the court back 792 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: then in seventy three. These people are saying it was 793 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: considered incorrectly and the law was not, you know, taken 794 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: into account in the right ways. Um, it is a 795 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: it's a very weird record correcting kind of thing. It 796 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: feels like I do wonder how any rationally thinking person 797 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: would not understand the problems that it causes when you 798 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: when you abolish anything that humans will do and have 799 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: relied on for a long time. And again, not nobody, 800 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: nobody's nobody's like chopping at the bit to go out 801 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: and get an abortion. Let's just put that out there 802 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 1: right away. I mean, you know, we're obviously not women, 803 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: but I guarantee no one's pumped to go out and 804 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: get an abortion. No, it's something you do under duress, 805 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, or with a lot of consternation and a 806 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 1: lot of serious souls searching, you know. Or you're put 807 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: in a situation out of your control where you were 808 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted and impregnated and you do not want that. 809 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to carry that child for obvious reasons. 810 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: But I believe who has it been that came out 811 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: and said something about like it's about feeding the adoption pipeline. 812 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: Have you heard that it is in the ruling. It's weird, 813 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: what a weird thing to say? What about adopting kids 814 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 1: from other countries? There? You know that are like refugees 815 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 1: are people that really need help? Like do we need is? 816 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 1: I don't think who who's asking it as such? It's 817 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: very it's fatuous. Uh a lot of the draft opinion. Uh, 818 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 1: fatuous is just a fancy word means silly and pointless. 819 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: So the the reason we're bringing this up, and I 820 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,879 Speaker 1: know we're going along. The reason we're bringing this up 821 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: is because if you're hearing this, you're going to also 822 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: be hearing long running conspiracy theories, true of which we've 823 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: out line today. Uh, they are going to gain prominence 824 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: as June and not to be your conspiracy meteorologist here, 825 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: but as June looms ever closer, you are going to 826 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: hear the both both sides of these camps accelerating right, 827 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: both the extremity and the strident nature of their beliefs. 828 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: I would like to point out that at this juncture, 829 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: that law, or that draft rather, is not law yet. Uh. 830 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: And obviously, again statistically, regardless of what anybody may or 831 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: may not believe, statistically, it's just it's just a fact. 832 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: The majority of the United States does not want Roe v. 833 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: Wade to be overturned. There are a lot of bubbles 834 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: happening now in the world of social media and communication. Uh. 835 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, these sorts of rulings would maybe 836 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: be better received if they came hand in hand with 837 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: support for people once they are born. But let us 838 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: be clear, the same groups that want to remove those 839 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: rights from people are the same groups who find it 840 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: blasphemous to help children once they are born. So i'd 841 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: like to end, since we're already going on, I'd like 842 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: to end with a final word, not from your three 843 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: pals over here a stuff they don't want you to know, 844 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: but from a Methodist pastor, David Barnhart. I've quoted him before, 845 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 1: and I cannot think of a better time to quote 846 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: him now in full Pastor Barnhart says, quote, the unborn 847 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They 848 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: never make demands of you. They are morally uncommon complicated, 849 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,919 Speaker 1: unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor. They don't 850 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct. 851 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: Unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy. Unlike orphans, 852 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: they don't need money, education, or child care. Unlike aliens, 853 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage 854 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: that you dislike. They allow you to feel good about 855 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships. And 856 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: when they are born, you can forget about them because 857 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn 858 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, 859 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: or privilege, without reimagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations 860 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to 861 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: love if you want to claim you love Jesus but 862 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: actually dislike people who breathe, Prisoners, immigrants, the sick, the poor, widows, orphans, 863 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: all the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible. 864 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: They all get thrown under the bus for the unboard 865 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: Methodist pastor David Barnhart tick, No, man, it ticks the boxes, 866 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: and it's totally true. It's a lynch pin or what 867 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: do you call. It's like a smoke screen. It's like, 868 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: how can we build an argument on, you know, this 869 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: rock solid in unimpeachable ground that is only there when 870 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: it's convenient for us and has no bearing on what 871 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: happens next. And we're immediately absolved of what happens next 872 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: for that life because we don't have to do anything 873 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: once they're born. We just have to advocate for them 874 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: to be born. And in the situation that we're now 875 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: changing because of this potential change ruling, we're just shooting 876 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: them out into a world of discord and chaos with 877 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: no support, with with no education, with no potential to 878 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: better themselves. And it's just feeding a cycle that I guess, 879 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: if you really want to be conspiratorial about it, is 880 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: in some way good for the halves for there to 881 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: be continued recycling, you know, um lower class that continues 882 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: to be the backs off of which their wealth is built. 883 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm overstating the case here, but 884 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: I think you're stating exactly the case that this preacher 885 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 1: has just stated, and it's it's important to have that 886 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: be the last word there. So we can't wait to 887 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: hear what you think. Folks. This is again live fire right. 888 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: We want to know whether you think there is a 889 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: conspiracy of foot if so, which we want to know 890 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: what you believe maybe going down there in the Caribbean. 891 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: We also want to know which misprints, typos, purposeful or accidental, 892 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: you believe have played a role in history. If you 893 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: would like to read more about that methodist preacher, glad 894 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: to share some resources, glad to tell you, but most importantly, 895 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you and try to be 896 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: easy to find online. That's right. You can find us 897 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 1: on Facebook, you can find us on YouTube. You find 898 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: us on Twitter. To handle conspiracy stuff on Instagram or 899 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff show you know, so contact us other ways, Yes, 900 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 1: so you can dial our number one eight three three 901 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: st d W y t K. Just like, uh, I 902 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna call this person, I'll call 903 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: them just be for now, be called us and let 904 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: us know that they are headed to Davos. You guys, 905 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna go do some reporting. He also wrote us 906 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: an email m m m hmmm and wants to wants 907 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: to know what they should cover. So I'm very interested 908 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: in doing that. So like B give us a call 909 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: one A three, three S, T D W Y t K, 910 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: give yourself a cold nickname, tell us if we can 911 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: use your message on the air or not, and then 912 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: you've got three minutes say whatever you'd like. If you've 913 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: got more to say in confind that time. Instead send 914 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: us a good old fashioned email. 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