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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars. Jaguars Happy always said by Hey now

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Speaker 1: I don't know? I have no does yours? This season

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Speaker 1: ended yesterday? What are we doing a show for? What

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Speaker 1: is going on? Pete? And we got five to go? Baby,

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Speaker 1: this is Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm JP Shaddrick, Tony was

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Speaker 1: Sally to my left. You are right, Pete Prisco. This

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Speaker 1: to our south in Fort Lauderdale. And here's what's coming

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Speaker 1: up on the show today. We'll recap Jaguars losing again

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Speaker 1: for the final score in Nashville yesterday, the run defense

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Speaker 1: or lack thereof again, inconsistent offense. Five games to go,

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Speaker 1: now what we'll get some social media questions and yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: we got some doozies. Today. We'll go around the division

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Speaker 1: and around the National Football league. That's all coming up.

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Speaker 1: That's the show. Douc Marone after the game yesterday in Nashville,

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Speaker 1: trying to get things right the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I told the players

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm gonna tell you. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the same questions. You know about jobs, switching quarterbacks, changes

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Speaker 1: we're gonna work our ass off to get this team

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Speaker 1: right somehow, some way. That's the job. Um, put your

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Speaker 1: I am that, And and I'm not speaking for anyone else.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to tell them, but I promised them

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Speaker 1: All right. That's set the stage for the week ahead

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Speaker 1: and for the month ahead for this Jaguars team. Three

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Speaker 1: consecutive losses, but I combined a hundred one to thirty

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Speaker 1: row by a margin of there was a it was

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Speaker 1: I was on the expansion Nicky, I feel pretty good

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Speaker 1: there's no way to sugarcoat it. I mean it's a

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Speaker 1: it's not very good right now. The team isn't very good.

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Speaker 1: It's bad football. And you have to look at every

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Speaker 1: I'm not like one thing Pete number one. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I see the assets. I'm not cutting like we do

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Speaker 1: set up you know, the right scheme is you gotta

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Speaker 1: get your guys to play. And now if they just

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Speaker 1: can't do it, then I don't know what you do

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Speaker 1: to under yards a game on the ground, But I

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Speaker 1: don't see it being a schematic issue when I watch,

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Speaker 1: I'm not and I mean maybe at times, but if

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Speaker 1: you give up, it is hard. And as you said, JP,

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Speaker 1: I like it's unheard of. I'd like to know the

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Speaker 1: last time an NFL team gave up three straight games.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't happen. It's almost impossible to do. And so when

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Speaker 1: that happens, I mean it is. You have to look

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Speaker 1: at every level. You have to look at picking the players,

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Speaker 1: you have to look at coaching the players. You have

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Speaker 1: to look at the players ef you know, skill set,

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Speaker 1: all of them together. When you see something that unheard of, Pete,

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Speaker 1: do you remember a time as this happened in the league. No, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't. And I'm trying to think about this game here.

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Speaker 1: Who's that fault? Coaches or players here? And what this game?

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Speaker 1: I think we've lost Peter. You there, now we've lost Pete.

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Speaker 1: We'll get back with Pete in just a minute. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gotta be I'm sure it's happened at some point Tony. Um.

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Speaker 1: But this is a rarity obviously in the NFL. Ye

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Speaker 1: the wrong kind of that. It smells terrible. It's not

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Speaker 1: where you want to be. Um. Uh. Yeah. And so

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Speaker 1: what you got when you look at that long play

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Speaker 1: and Doug talked about it, you have the three technique

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Speaker 1: going inside. He gets overreached, he's in the wrong gap,

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Speaker 1: which messes up everybody else, right, Yeah, and on that

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Speaker 1: play with Taven, but he's not the only offender. Um.

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Speaker 1: You have guys getting pushed off the ball. You have

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Speaker 1: no one getting off blocks, um. And you have poor tackling.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, Doug talked about last week getting

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Speaker 1: back to the fundamentals of tackling and stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: for the first half, they did a good job, gave

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Speaker 1: up seven points, but they were I hate to say this,

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00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: but it looked physically overmatched. Yeah, they just got overmatched.

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Speaker 1: They just got blown off the ball. I got blocked.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get off the ball, you gotta stay in

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Speaker 1: your feet, you gotta run, you gotta tackle. I gotta

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Speaker 1: beat guys. At the end of the day, this is

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Speaker 1: a game about beating the guy in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Is it here's a question for you. Is it more

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Speaker 1: of the that those guys are just better or is

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Speaker 1: it a air bet or is it an effort? They're better?

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Speaker 1: They're better. Okay, it's not a lack of effort. At times,

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Speaker 1: it probably is, you know, you see times, but not

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Speaker 1: that's not the core problem. I don't think you have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys out there jaking it, laying down

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Speaker 1: their line was just better. They're better than the guys

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Speaker 1: up front for Jacksonville. They're better end of the day. Um,

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Speaker 1: And that's hard. It's hard to say for me because

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Speaker 1: you know it's hard. I know it's hard. Guys don't

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Speaker 1: like hearing that, especially when you're a player. But the

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Speaker 1: only way you change that you gotta do something about it.

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Speaker 1: They got beat, they got blocked. There's no coaching that

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Speaker 1: is gonna like magically fix that. Like there's not a

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Speaker 1: scheme that all of a sudden like everything's fixed. When

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Speaker 1: guys are getting pushed off the ball and running through

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Speaker 1: you and and running wide open, and we even got

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Speaker 1: to that, the guys running wide open in the second

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Speaker 1: I mean just wide open, yep. And so like you

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Speaker 1: gotta do a better job. They were so amped up

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Speaker 1: to try to stop to run early in the game.

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Speaker 1: The first play of the game, here comes a bootleg

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback for twenty yards. Yeah, there's some exotic

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Speaker 1: things on offense yesterday's Surprisingly, there wasn't that exotic. It's

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Speaker 1: a basic bootleg. But we were so concerned about running,

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Speaker 1: you know, tackling Derrick Henry, we forgot that. There's actually

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Speaker 1: you gotta do your job and stay in your gap

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Speaker 1: in and and follow your keys. And we didn't do

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Speaker 1: a good job of that that early. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we got some stops we got off the field. We

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Speaker 1: gotta turnover. You know, we made some things happen, but

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Speaker 1: we couldn't hold up. We just, uh, there's no other

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Speaker 1: way to say it. I mean, it's not like football,

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Speaker 1: like everyone wants these like simple answers, and they're the

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Speaker 1: simple answers is win. Like, here's how you win football games.

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Speaker 1: You have big, strong, physical guys that control the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage on both sides. You want to look at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you want you want to

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Speaker 1: look at the teams who win, They consistently win the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage because they have big, nasty, physical human beings. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you have a quarterback that can pull the

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Speaker 1: trigger and make things happen, and you have a pretty

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Speaker 1: good chance to win. Now, it does. I'm not discounting

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Speaker 1: any other position. Obviously, having a great corner changes how

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Speaker 1: you play defense and right. But it's a big man's game.

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Speaker 1: That's where football was designed. If he played as Tom

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Speaker 1: Coughlin told us in his introductory press conference, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and we are overmatched right now. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how to say it. When you give up three

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Speaker 1: you're not coming up being physical. It's a problem. Let's

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll discuss the offense. We'll delive a little

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Speaker 1: more into Nick Fole's day. This isn't the most positive

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Speaker 1: I don't know where else. And I don't like we're

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be better just not to. But that's

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna ask all these questions because that's your job.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not gonna sit here and be

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Speaker 1: you have to go through trials to build character, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we're doing right now. It's not fun. It's

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Speaker 1: not fun to go out there and get beat like that.

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, Jaguar's quarterback yesterday in Nashville after the fort

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Speaker 1: Who twenty lost to the Tennessee Titans. Welcome back, Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: Happy our g pie, Shadrick, Tony Vasselli. We're out to

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. He'll be back with us uh as soon

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Speaker 1: as we can get him and the Jags. We touched

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Speaker 1: on the offense earlier, right and Nick Foles his days

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Speaker 1: the last two times out, so before we get that.

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Speaker 1: I know the a lot of fans, or at least

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Speaker 1: through Twitter, you know, have not been overly excited about

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles comments after the game the last two weeks. Yes, man,

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Speaker 1: We'll just we just heard the ones there, and I

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Speaker 1: know Pete kind of said something. Pete said something earlier

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Speaker 1: that he thinks the comments are ridiculous they need to change.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, does it matter, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: like what did he say there? That is so wrong?

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Speaker 1: And like, I know what the fans want. They wanted

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Speaker 1: to pound the fist and say, you know, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: they suck and suck and like everyone. So I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like, it's what he said is innocuous to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the fans have a broader scope of building

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Speaker 1: character twelve years of building. I get that. But that's

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Speaker 1: not his problem. He hasn't been here, right, I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you what they get that. I'm the most part

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Speaker 1: with their feeling. I'm not mad about the fans being frustrated,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, every right to be frustrated. Pete.

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Speaker 1: Are you back with us now? Yeah? I'm here. You

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Speaker 1: know what, I tend to agree with the fans on

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Speaker 1: that one. Nobody wants to hear that crap, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: mean maybe, I mean they just don't. Nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: hear that at this moment, what are you building too?

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta go through the bad time to

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Speaker 1: get to the good time. They don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: What do they want to hear? What would you like

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles say? That's what they get come up with book.

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Speaker 1: We're not good enough right now. We're working to get better.

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Speaker 1: It's not about building a culture. And and then that's

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Speaker 1: that's just that's coach speak. That's garbage, you know that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not gonna argue. I mean I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just that's who Nick like, that's who Nick is.

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Speaker 1: That that's authentic Nick Foles. I mean, that's who you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get like, that's his mindset. The fans want to

632
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Speaker 1: see somebody with a little more fire in the building,

633
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Like you want to get up there and like say,

634
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: like just rip everybody and rip the offensive line and

635
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: the receivers and the defense. What do you want to

636
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: do then, Pete, just get to the don't start talking

637
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: about culture and building something. Time to get to the

638
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: good time. So nobody wants to hear that. He was

639
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: asked the question. So you just rather when they ask

640
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: the questions, say no, no comment. What was the exact question.

641
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: I don't remember Stamp. I'll get to that. You're gonna

642
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: tell him that you should. You should set up a service.

643
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: You can just tell people what to say based on

644
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: the questions are asked. You know what, that's not a

645
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: bad idea of you should be a consultant. You should

646
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: be an answer question consultant. Pete Prisco. If you want

647
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: to know what to say when you're asked a question,

648
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: Pete will tell you. Just don't give him the everything's

649
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: rosy scenario when we're building something in this I didn't

650
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: hear everything's rosy. He said, it's hard right now, we're

651
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: not good enough. We need to get better. Like what

652
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: does he want? Like that's what he said. Apparently the

653
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: question there's not a full question. The official transcript is

654
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: basically on missing a couple of big plays to his

655
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers early in the game, and it turned into

656
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: a long answer building character. What did that mean? Well,

657
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: I think he's saying they need to be better and

658
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: it's a process. And like you either when it's going

659
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: tough and it's going the wrong way, you can sit

660
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: there and be negative and complain and everything else. Nothing's

661
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna change By doing that, or you can go back

662
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: to work and be positive and keep on trying to

663
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: get better. That's why I think he's saying, like, I'm

664
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: not sure what's wrong with that. Now, if you just

665
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: want the short answer, you missed a couple of receivers. Yeah,

666
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: we missed, and we gotta make the place like that's it.

667
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Then you guys will complain or he doesn't say enough.

668
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: And that's what he said in the first sentence of

669
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: the answer. It's part of the game sometimes where guys

670
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: making great, great catcher made and sometimes they're not. That's

671
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: why you keep firing away and keep trusting your guys.

672
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: And then they went on from there about still fighting

673
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: and doing all that. You understand where a fan was,

674
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: oh goshut crap and they don't buy it. You know

675
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: what a good culture is that. I don't blame the

676
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: fans for being frustrated. I don't at all. I never

677
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: have if there's not been I mean, I've been a

678
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: pretty big advocate for the fans, Like I get it.

679
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't blame them for being frustrated.

680
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys this, I think I pretty frustrated. This.

681
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: I think everybody is right now. I'm Doug Marone today

682
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: on his conference call, reiterated that Nick Foles he fields,

683
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: gives the best Jaguars the best chance to win. Now,

684
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: do you guys agree with that? Pete? Um, that's to

685
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: be determined. But you paid him that money, you might,

686
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: like Tony said, you might as well find out the

687
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: next five games what you got. What's the matter now?

688
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean the ship is unless support and you're standing

689
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: on the dock looking to get on, and all you

690
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: could do is fall in the order. That's about it. Well,

691
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think it doesn't matter for the players.

692
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: It matters for the coaching staff because if and I'm

693
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: not saying this is gonna happen, I don't think it's

694
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Actually, Um that if they could go win

695
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: four or five games, get to eight and eight or

696
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: nine and seven, they have a chance to say, I'm

697
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: just Pete that's used to think of you're a coach though, right,

698
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: But okay, Tony, if they go seven and nine, I

699
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: did say seven and nine. I said eight and eight

700
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: or nine and seven, So you win four or five, four,

701
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: four or five. I don't think they are I don't

702
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: think they're going to Pete. I'm just telling you the

703
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: mindset of a coach or a player, that's how you

704
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: have to think. I mean you had like otherwise. If

705
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: that's not how you think, what are you doing at

706
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: that point? Okay? But does he give him the best

707
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: shot to win? Um? That's I thought for sure. I

708
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: was a for sure Yes. Two weeks ago, I was

709
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: a yes. Uh. Last week I'm like down, like yes,

710
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm like on the fence. I still would play him.

711
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: I still start him because I mean, I think you've invested,

712
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: and I want to find out what I have going

713
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: because I have a good idea what Minshew is and

714
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: what he can be. So I'm at least the next

715
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: couple of weeks stick with Foals. Can they score some

716
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: early points though? No, Well we haven't done that all year,

717
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: have we? Certainly not recently. It's been a long time.

718
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: That would help matters obviously. Well, I mean we scored

719
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: three this week, we scored seven last week, and we

720
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: scored three the week before. So in three first half

721
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: we've scored thirteen points. Pete, stop hitting your he's dialing out,

722
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: he's dialing up a pizza. Yeah, three points last week,

723
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: seven points in the first half at and the three

724
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: points in London against Houston. That's thirteen points in three games.

725
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Let's talk about the first talk about

726
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: them the defense, but both games it was they were

727
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: in the game and at halftime, but they were in

728
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: the game. No, it's this is not just a defensive problem.

729
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: The defense is not very good. They can't stop the run.

730
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: It is what it is. The offense is not very good.

731
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: They don't score points. Yeah, I don't know. I just

732
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: the question is legitimate When the fans say should they

733
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: go back to Minsho, that's a legitimate question. I think

734
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. I have no problem with it.

735
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: Doug made the and and fans getting upset about the

736
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: earing culture in the locker room and building to something

737
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: they have a right to get. They're upset with that too,

738
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: because look, unlike Nick Foles, we've just got here, they've

739
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: been here. The fans have every right to be upset.

740
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they shouldn't. All I'm saying is what

741
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: else do you want to say? This is who Nick

742
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: Foles is. And he didn't see anything wrong. He just said,

743
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: like the stinks right now, We're not very good. We

744
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: have to get better. I am choosing to be positive

745
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: and this is how you build the locker room. That's

746
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: all he said. But then he faced something similar last

747
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: week too. Yeah, he was talking about culture last week.

748
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: This this week he was character. Yes, well we got

749
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: we got the two seeds. There has to be the

750
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: third seed. Every good speech has three seeds. Were three points?

751
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Were culture? Character? What's the third one? I don't think that.

752
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that. How about confidence? You know, if

753
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: you have character and you build a culture, you're gonna

754
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: have a confident locker room. There's keep talking about character,

755
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: you keep talking about culture, and you don't get better,

756
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: and you're good and your talent isn't any good, You're

757
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: gon be clappy? How about that? That could be a

758
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: C I like confident better. I will say there was

759
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: more balance in the offense yesterday. I think I think

760
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: d Philippo got the message from the head coach to

761
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: run the ball seven Russians or three those from folds,

762
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: but twenty four by four nets for ninety seven yards,

763
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and that's being down almost the entire second half. I mean,

764
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: I think he had as many carries in the indie

765
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: game like by like the middle of the second quarter

766
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: um and I thought Letter four Nett really ran hard.

767
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought he was physical, made some great

768
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: catches out of the backfield. I got nothing but respect

769
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: to how Leonard Fournette played that football game. And you

770
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: know what, he's done a pretty good job this year.

771
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't can't falt them. He's been one

772
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: of the pleasant surprises of this year. I mean, but

773
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: but Pete, this is how dare I say in ft

774
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: the offense has been. We now have three rushing touchdowns

775
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: on the year, and two of them came pretty much

776
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: in garbage time. It was garbage time, not pretty much.

777
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: It was the Titans. I mean that is bad. No

778
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: matter what you said on the game broadcast, it was over.

779
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean. We had three possessions, three touchdowns,

780
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: three two point conversions, a couple on side kicks. We

781
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: were right back in it over. Yeah, you got excited.

782
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: You got a little excited on the broadcast for the fumble. Well, yeah,

783
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: well that was that was We were still in at

784
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: that point. I think it was that was It was

785
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: still like twenty, it was three. I thought the fumble

786
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: came when it made it thirty five and they went

787
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: down and made I don't remember why. Why was Richardson

788
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch Because they wanted to start Dontavius Russell

789
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: to get bigger people on the field to stop the run.

790
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: They didn't want to start him. They just want to

791
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: have him at start. They want him active so he

792
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: could be in the rotation. Confirmed that again. Here's another

793
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: question I had. Did Miles Jack get hurt for bench

794
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: hurt hurt his knee? Well, I don't know how bad.

795
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: There was no update from that. There was no update

796
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: he had. You could tell he was visibly limping, went

797
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: to the sideline, came out with a sleeve. Rick Blue

798
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: reported from the sideline had a sleeve put on his

799
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: knee or something, and you could tell that he was

800
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: favoring his right knee. Now what the injury is, we

801
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: were not told. There was no official announcement, but when

802
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: the game it was clearly over, he was taken out

803
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: and uh Donald Payne came in. But by the way,

804
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: a couple of things from yesterday. They found out that

805
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: Andrew Win guarded a special teams player only thanks. What's next?

806
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: What's the next thing? What else did you stay your captain? Captain?

807
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Obvious is that captain obvious. Well, you didn't have to

808
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: have a backup safety before the field play, can't you? Well,

809
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna make the judgment of the kid

810
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: because of one game it was dreadful. What was the

811
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: next hold on? You're saying he was the only bad

812
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: guy who No. No. If that's the case, then there's

813
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that you can say that about.

814
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Here's the question I wanted to ask to did say

815
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: that he thought he had somebody on help and nobody

816
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: was there after the game? Kind of called somebody out.

817
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Who'd be talking about? I don't know, but there the

818
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: quote he had alluded to, um miscommunication, miss a line,

819
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: guys missed the line before we go to break? And

820
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: if the team feels prepared entering games at this point

821
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: in the season. A J boy said this in the

822
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: locker room. I felt prepared. It just frustrates me when

823
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: you see something in practice, you know somebody is going

824
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: to be there, and then it doesn't happen in a game. Yeah,

825
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: then he moves on to other things. Yes, so let's

826
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: come back. Sounds like, so who do you think it was?

827
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to tell. Like a couple

828
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: of times. I thought, just a j just got beat

829
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: by Brown, Let's come back. We'll delve into that. We'll

830
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: look at the remaining schedule for the Jaguars as well. Okay,

831
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: we'll see if you want to lock some games. I said,

832
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: I've done lost day. I can't either, and I don't

833
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: like people have got on me and they deservedly sell

834
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: they should um I said it last week. I'll say

835
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: the same thing. If they continue to play defense and

836
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: play offense both the way they are right now, they

837
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,120
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913
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's terrible on Twitter. But I mean, look,

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916
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917
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918
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919
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920
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921
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Speaker 1: everyone's frustrated, like like, the fans don't have a like

922
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923
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924
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Speaker 1: fans every right to be frustrated. But they never got

925
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Speaker 1: to finish my assets. We had we listed you listed

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I think we got to the end right, No,

927
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Speaker 1: we didn't. The right The right tackles an asset, very

928
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Speaker 1: good player, Okay, Teller is an asset. I came Rocks.

929
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Speaker 1: I think Cam. I think Cam Robinson. I mean you

930
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Speaker 1: look at left tackle. I mean he's you know, a

931
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Speaker 1: good young player. Um, he's improved this year. Is your

932
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933
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Speaker 1: he's improved. I think WARP has done a very good

934
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935
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936
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Speaker 1: know in the you know, top half of centers in

937
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938
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Speaker 1: he's he's a solid player. He's probably not I mean again,

939
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Speaker 1: and I go back to the contract. He's not worth

940
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941
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942
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943
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944
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945
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Speaker 1: or better player or cheaper option is just as good.

946
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Speaker 1: Did I not just say that it does equal, not

947
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Speaker 1: just as good? Are you he coal and he's cheaper,

948
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Speaker 1: he's better? Are you that dense? So if he's equal

949
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Speaker 1: and he's cheaper, he's better. Hey, what did you do

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951
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Speaker 1: If we're equal player and he's cheaper, it's probably better

952
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Speaker 1: option for Let me repeat what I said. You don't

953
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954
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957
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Speaker 1: Logan Cook punters an asset? Josh, please please, When you

961
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962
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Speaker 1: Okay out there, special teams players being assets. That means

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Speaker 1: I bet you if you judge, I bet she's in

971
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1040
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Speaker 1: we had with all those assets in five years there's

1044
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1045
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Speaker 1: I mean you can do like, well, they got the

1047
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1050
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Speaker 1: very narrow, is my point. But you can't really count

1051
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: and Gogway has an asset because you don't want what

1052
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with you don't know what you're gonna

1053
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: do with him, or he's still an asset. He's on

1054
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: your roster. Pete, you have you can I am a

1055
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: mega contract to keep him and make him and keep

1056
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: continue to be an asset. By the way, you don't

1057
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: have to sign as a franchise jack and asset. Um.

1058
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: He has been the way he's playing as of late. No, No,

1059
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: he has not been by the way Pro Football Focus has.

1060
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell is the eighteenth graded gardener league, which isn't bad. Okay,

1061
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: there's there's only sixty four of them, and he played

1062
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: the best they had him. Rading is the best offensive line.

1063
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Andrew nor Well has played good football

1064
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: this year. I don't care what anyone says. He had

1065
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: an awful play and awful play like that. Everyone wants

1066
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: to hang their hat on in Carolina, and he makes

1067
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: a bowload of money, so they always pick him on it. Right,

1068
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: he's playing good football. Play good football again this I

1069
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: thought he played well on the tape. Andrew do Well

1070
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: is a good football player. I don't care what anyone says.

1071
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: Let's touch on the hot topics today. Of course. The

1072
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: run defense horrible again. Two hundred nineteen yards. That's six

1073
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: nine nine yards allowed on the ground over the last

1074
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: three games, Old division games, all twenty point losses. More,

1075
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken too, the only it was actually

1076
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: to twenty two before they took so they really have

1077
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: given up seven two yards. Yeah, that's right, of course,

1078
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: that's demoralizing. Giving up a hundred and fifty yards in

1079
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: a game is demoralizing. Where do we rush? Where do

1080
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: we rank in the NFL now on rush defense? Twenty

1081
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: nine and they're last in the league and yards per carry?

1082
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, like Ronald Jones has done very

1083
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: little for the bucks. He's got to be smiling all

1084
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: week long this week. Yeah, I mean, if you don't

1085
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: know his name, you you might at this rate, you

1086
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: might know it by Sunday evening. And yeah, and the

1087
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: Bucks don't give him enough cared where they do. Well,

1088
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: the good news is, you know, Bruce arians loves throwing

1089
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: it around the yard. Jamis will give you a couple.

1090
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: And Jamie is going to throw you a couple. Now,

1091
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: whether we catch or not, I'm not sure, but they're coming.

1092
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: They are a tony. The Bucks haven't made a decision

1093
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: on Jamis yet, but as he gets ready to come

1094
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: to town, I'm gonna ask you right now, who's a

1095
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: better quarterback, Jamis or Nick Foles? Ni falls stop it.

1096
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't turn it over, Pete. That's you cannot do

1097
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: that in that position. Doesn't score points either, Yeah, Jamis.

1098
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: Look at the points the Bucks have scored this year.

1099
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: Look at the turnovers, Pete. You don't win, okay. What's

1100
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: what's the Bucks record? Well, I mean the defense. You

1101
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: talking about a bad defense? Well, look at our defense work, Pete.

1102
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: What's their record? Okay? But at least they score. What's

1103
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: their record? They're not good? What is it? They score points?

1104
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: What is it? What are they? And there? Four and

1105
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: seven the exact same things. The Jaguars, Well, they store

1106
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: points though, they're competitive and games and he threw it

1107
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: to the wrong team and they lose. They're competitive because

1108
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: he could throw it around the yard. They lost to

1109
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: Seattle in overtime forty thirty four. Question, yeah, they lost

1110
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: to the Titans. Also the Panthers thirty six on the

1111
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: Saints and lost. Is there a tight on the tight

1112
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: end on this roster as good as O. J. Howard?

1113
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't do anything. I was asking the question, is

1114
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: there what does he do for them? He does nothing.

1115
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: Is there a receiver as good as Mike Evans, No,

1116
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: there's not a receiver as good as Chris Godwin either.

1117
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: Chark isn't as good as Godwin? No he is not. Okay,

1118
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: does that help? But their defense is pathetic and they

1119
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: score points. Yes, he turns it over, but they score points.

1120
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: They this team in two games with Nick Foles has

1121
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: not scored any points. Tony is our efens good? No? Okay,

1122
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: then why do you keep on bringing up the Bucks?

1123
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: The problem that my point is because the point is

1124
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: their defense thinks, just like Jacksonvill's defense thinks, And the

1125
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: point is that they're talking. They both have the point

1126
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: and they both have the same record. They score points,

1127
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: but they turn it over. At least they can score points. Great, congratulations,

1128
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: score all the points you want and have the same

1129
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: losing record because you turn it over. They have they've

1130
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: been more competitive in games. Rule number one. Rule number one,

1131
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: don't turn it over. Rule number one score touchdowns. Okay,

1132
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Pete on this, both four and seven.

1133
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: What does it matter you lose games? Folds? I said,

1134
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: folds right now? You know what, if we had that

1135
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: lie detector hooked up to your body right now, it

1136
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: will be zapping all over the place. Not true. Would

1137
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: you take twenty eight points with two interceptions right now? Points? Two? Yeah?

1138
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: Old day long you would how many touchdowns? Is he

1139
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna throw four like he did yesterday? Through three? Yeah?

1140
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: But he through three picks, didn't he too? Would you

1141
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: take twenty eight points? Four touchdowns through the air and

1142
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: two interceptions from a Jaguars quarterback? Where where are the

1143
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: touch that world doesn't matter? Where looking at the box

1144
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: score at the end of the day. Where the interceptions thrown?

1145
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: Because that matters? Because let me give up, don't forget

1146
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: about how many? Don't forget JP you can't. How many

1147
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: touchdown passes did Nick fole store yesterday? Zero? None? Done?

1148
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: That's kind of my point, Pete, you're jp we got

1149
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: him back into the corner and we're just I'm right

1150
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: crossing him and you're left right. We're just over the top.

1151
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: Bang Batty, he's against the ropes. He's going down like

1152
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: Deonte Wilder. It's gonna be a knockout here soon. Oh,

1153
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: I can tell you is you can't win games in

1154
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: this league turning it over? Look? Should you? Is it

1155
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: better to not turn it? Were? Absolutely? Is it better

1156
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: to score twenty eight points than score the craft that

1157
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars of the score. And you bet how many tens?

1158
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: How many ten to seven games you're gonna win? As

1159
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: many games you're gonna win throwing two or three picks

1160
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: every game like Jamis does? How many picks is he

1161
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: on the ear? And here's the thing, this is why

1162
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: it's a dumb conversation. The conversation is idiotic because you

1163
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: know as well as I do, you can't win with

1164
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: either if you don't score points and if you turn

1165
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: it over it doesn't matter. And so you're arguing for

1166
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: a guy who is a terrible win loss record and

1167
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: throws it to the wrong guy and more than the

1168
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: only reason there's not ten more picks because defensive guys

1169
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: can't catch Jamis Winston. Two touchdown passes, interception? How many?

1170
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: Come on, Pete, are you kidding me? Twenty yards, Pete,

1171
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't care. In a league where it is no

1172
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 1: one throws twenty picks anymore, nobody. He's also been sacked

1173
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: thirty six times. I mean, come on, Pete, you're wrong here,

1174
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: You're wrong. No. I look, he eight get picked off

1175
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: a ton, and that's a bad thing for him. He's

1176
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: still he still scores points. I don't care. I don't care.

1177
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: He throws picks. And the only reason you have thirty

1178
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: five picks because defensive guys can't catch. I've done his games.

1179
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: Like like, you're arguing for a guy to be your

1180
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: starting quarterback that throws twenty picks in today's NFL, which

1181
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 1: is unheard of, arguing for him to be the starting

1182
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: quarterback anywhere. I'm just proving a point that he isn't

1183
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: any worse than the quarterback that's Jacksonville is No, he's not.

1184
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: I know, you know wrong, you know no, you're wrong.

1185
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: You can't win turning the ball over. You can't. Who's

1186
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: who scored a ton of points in this league so

1187
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: far this year? The wars the Bucks And what's the

1188
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: record of the Bucks? The defense is pathetic? Yeah, in

1189
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Bears are you you're you're honestly talking in circles? Now?

1190
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, Pete, but both four and seven. By

1191
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: the way, the Winston leads the league and picks he leads.

1192
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: He leads every league like college XFL, UFL, a FL, CFL, EVERYFL.

1193
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: He leads to the wrong guy every time. Where do

1194
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 1: they get scoring? JP? Pete? Who cares or no? For

1195
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: the game? The objects of the game is to win.

1196
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: How many points? Know? The object is to win? How

1197
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: many points in the Patriots score yesterday? The defense? Hold on,

1198
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm asking you a question. How many points in the

1199
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: Patriots score? How many touchdowns the top Rady throw one? No,

1200
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: they scored. They blocked the punt to score. Oh he didn't.

1201
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: He threw a touchdown past and to kill Harry. Okay, so, oh,

1202
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: you're right, that's right after the punt buck punt. So

1203
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: he threw one. How many yards he throw for Pete?

1204
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: How many? Yeah? How many? Where? Where? Is he ranking

1205
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: total touchdowns this year? He's playing with a generation guess what,

1206
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: And he doesn't turn it over so he doesn't put

1207
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: his defensive bad positions and they win. By the way

1208
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: football games, Tampa Bay is third in the league and scoring,

1209
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: yeah great, and they stink defensive stas Baltimore and San

1210
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: Franz scores more than Tampa. Guys there four and seven

1211
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: because the quarterback turns the ball over. That's why they

1212
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: can't win four and seven. Because he turns the ball over, yes,

1213
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: kind of four and seven because the defense is awful.

1214
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: Then you can have him, Pete, build your team around that.

1215
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't want to build my team

1216
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: around him. I'm just saying I think he's just every bit,

1217
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: if not better than fools. So you said you'd rather,

1218
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: I'll take folds because I can win with a quarterback

1219
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: who throws one touchdown and no interceptions. I can't win

1220
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: with the guy who throws two, three, four or five

1221
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: interceptions of game. Put the poll out there, Twitter, what

1222
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: do you guys think? Come at the Celly Winston takes

1223
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: and let me know. The last time a fan pole

1224
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: about what quarterback to pick is is like how you're

1225
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: supposed to build a team. I mean, honestly, Pete, that's

1226
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: why you know what, That's why you work in the media,

1227
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: and that's all you should do, because you honestly should

1228
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: do nothing but right for a website, and that's what

1229
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: you do. Winston is a lot cheaper. No he's not.

1230
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: He's making nineteen twenty million this year, but he hasn't

1231
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: have that big hunk of guaranteed money that somebody else

1232
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: has got next year. He goes back to the money.

1233
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: Don't don't be throwing that media argument. You're part of

1234
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: the media too, No I am. But like I can

1235
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: do other things, Pete couldn't like what. You're a broken

1236
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 1: down old man like I am. Now what are you talking?

1237
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: I got other business interests. Yeah, but once upon a

1238
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: time you were actually a football player and a damn

1239
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: good one. But now you're a broken down old man

1240
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: in the media, just like me. Were different. We're on

1241
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: the same team. Tone, No, no, I listen, listen. You

1242
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: know what. I live by your motto when it comes

1243
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: to the media. There might be no eye and team,

1244
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: but there's an M and and E me. I'm the

1245
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: same way. I don't follow the masses in the media.

1246
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: Do I you sometimes do you're olverjam he's the great

1247
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: you think you think? Do you think I'm the guy

1248
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: that sits there? And let these Hall of Fame boaters

1249
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: tell me that you were blocking him for a quarterback.

1250
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: Now you love him again. That's when we're on the

1251
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: same team, Pete, Now we're on the same team that

1252
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: There's nothing, by the way, there's nothing more infuriating to

1253
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: me than when I hear some buffoon on that whole

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Speaker 1: it's just not gonna be the celebration Tony thought it

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Speaker 1: they get locked the next five, Tony. As I said before,

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Speaker 1: you would be them winning the next five. Based on

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Speaker 1: what I've seen, Yes, yeah, me too, Let's come back.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing. There's nothing that I have already seeing. You're

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Speaker 1: the guys, Uh, this is a step of stun for

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Speaker 1: all out of us. I mean, uh, you work a

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Speaker 1: about touchdowns like none of that. But I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: I can talk. I had last week my dad, you know,

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Speaker 1: We always could be, always could be worse. Let it

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Speaker 1: for that in the locker room after the Lawston Nashville yesterday,

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Speaker 1: be one of the best beards. No, that's positive. It's

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Speaker 1: a great beer. But he played well, he did, he did.

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Speaker 1: He might he might actually be on his way to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. He's gonna have a chance for sure. Yeah. Sure.

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Speaker 1: How many yards is he ever? Now? Uh? Just under

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Speaker 1: a thousand. I think he's like fifty yards under a thousand,

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Speaker 1: nine yards, So you know, if he scores more touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and I think he's an automatic, Well look at this though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has four point six yards to carry

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Speaker 1: the area, has fifty six receptions in the year, so

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna end up with over seventy receptions

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Speaker 1: um and probably about yards. That's a good year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Six in the league in rushing yardage, third in the

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Speaker 1: league in scrimmage yards. By the way, where's he ranking

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Speaker 1: the A f C and rushing yards, that's you have

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Speaker 1: to do it four fourth in the A f C

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Speaker 1: and rushing yard So yeah, he's doing He's having a

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Speaker 1: very Guys ahead of him in rushing yards are Nick Chubb,

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs. A good players and by the way,

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Speaker 1: good players playing on playoff contenders, So they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: more play down the run. And Jacobs might not because

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Speaker 1: he's a rookie, but Henry will for sure. So well,

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Speaker 1: Chubb's not really a playoff contender. Well, they're five and

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Speaker 1: they're five and six, and they've got a favorable schedule

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Speaker 1: right coming up. Yeah, very they have the easiest schedule

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And Chubb's got seven touchdowns, Henry has ten,

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Speaker 1: and Jacobs has seven. Nick Chubb is probably the best

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Speaker 1: back I've seen this year, pure um, Christian McCaffrey. Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb is the best pure running back. Christie McCaffrey is

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Speaker 1: the best offensive non quarterback player because of what you

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Speaker 1: can do out of the backfield catching the ball. Nick

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Speaker 1: jobs is unreal. Let's get to social questions. Your favorite

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Speaker 1: Tony certainly pizza, good stuff, good stuff. Let's start here

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Speaker 1: with at no toes down. Can we change the name

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Speaker 1: of this show to Jaguar's Crappy Hour? What about Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: Slappy Hour? Either way, this team is brutal well like

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Speaker 1: what is bad? I'm not sure why we are getting

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Speaker 1: lumped in with crappy Slappy Hour, But listen, if I

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Speaker 1: had to choose between crappy or slappy, I'd have to

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Speaker 1: go with crappy hour, because if you're a slappy, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to be overcome that. You just might be a

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Speaker 1: slappy your whole wife, Like, if you're a crappy, you

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Speaker 1: can get better. Like Joe is slappy and so like

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Speaker 1: he's just like he's been slappy since I've met him.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I've never heard anybody call me slappy.

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Speaker 1: But I've heard many people refer to you as slappy.

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Speaker 1: I haven't Maybe it must be behind my back. No,

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Speaker 1: right to your face, that's not true. Crappy, you can

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Speaker 1: get better. I have to choose crappy. I have to

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Speaker 1: go with one. Pete, Yeah, cradle like crappy. You don't

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Speaker 1: you want to go slappy? You are kind of a

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Speaker 1: slap so yeah, crappy means you stink. We slap means

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Speaker 1: that's just like you are a slap blank. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. They're Neither one of them is

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Speaker 1: very good, to be honest, But Crappy, we can get better, Pete,

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Speaker 1: we can get the stink off us. I don't think

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Speaker 1: helping us into this category of the team and that's

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Speaker 1: not fair to us. Well, you know what, Life's not fair.

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Speaker 1: You gotta hey, listen, we're in this together. I'll go

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Speaker 1: down with the ship. Let's go. I'm not going down

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Speaker 1: with anybody's ship because you're I'm getting a life wrap that.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the hell out of it. It's like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: women and children, my ass. I'm going first. That's what

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Speaker 1: Pete's going. When the Titanic was going down, Pete jumps,

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Speaker 1: threw ladies out of the way, babies, everything, that's my life.

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Speaker 1: I'm going on that paying quick playing the damn violent

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Speaker 1: I'm getting on the boat. How about when you're like

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Speaker 1: in an exit row of a plane and they go, okay,

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Speaker 1: have a problem, You're gonna be the first one open

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Speaker 1: the door. You open the door and go right on out,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. Yeah, No, I'm helping the women

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Speaker 1: and child are not first, Pete. That's why you're a slap.

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Speaker 1: That's help the women and children. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: would actually if I'm being really honest. Alright, Next question,

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Speaker 1: Next question, let's go next social question number two at

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Speaker 1: Duval calling. Should the Jaguars clean house in the front

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Speaker 1: office and coaching staff this offseason? With four first round

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Speaker 1: picks in the next two years, the timing feels right.

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Speaker 1: If so, who would be your pick for the next

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Speaker 1: head coach? Pete? Are you going for left witch? A

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Speaker 1: lot of questions here, so I know you can answer

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Speaker 1: the coach question. I'm gonna give you. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: my opinion on the first part. That is the decision

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Speaker 1: of Tom Coughlin. So Tom Coughlin has to start that process.

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Speaker 1: He's the head of the football ops. All that I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's I don't think he's going to be a part

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Speaker 1: of it. Well, but he is right now, Pete. So

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Speaker 1: the question is today, not tomorrow, not a week from now,

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Speaker 1: not five weeks now. The person asks us today, what

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01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: is going to happen? That is Tom Coflin will have

1444
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Speaker 1: to make that decision as he evaluates the entire football

1445
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: side of the organization is going to make that decision,

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Speaker 1: and Tom is gonna be a part of it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know, but that's not Wait wait a second, that

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Speaker 1: makes no sense to me, just based on what Shan

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Speaker 1: has told us three years ago, based on how the

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Speaker 1: rest of the organization works. Shan hires the head of

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Speaker 1: football ops, vice president football, senior vice president of football.

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01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: He runs football. Hired the president, Mark Lamping, He runs

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Speaker 1: the bag. But they made a decision. They're gonna make

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Speaker 1: a decision to keep Tom and get rid of everybody else. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's like Tom has to come with the plan and

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Speaker 1: this is where we made the decision, will make the decision. Well,

1457
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: right now, that's not how right now the decision. So

1458
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: you're saying he can't change his mind. Oh sure, he

1459
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: like he is, like he owns the team. But I'm saying,

1460
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: if you look at the football operations today, it is

1461
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Tom Conflin's responsibility for what happens on that side of

1462
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: the building. So before it keeps saying that, we get that,

1463
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: but he might be part of the problem. Okay, well

1464
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: then that but then that is the responsibility of the

1465
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: owner to make a decision. But right now where we

1466
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: sit today, if you're looking at football, we're talking about football,

1467
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: and the question is asked about the football side of

1468
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: the building, and that is gonna be Tom making that decision. Guys,

1469
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: what like where does that until he's told he can

1470
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: no longer make it? N When they ask clean house,

1471
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I think is top down everybody.

1472
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: So the question no, But then that's the question. The

1473
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: question should have read, is Tom conflan getting fired? No,

1474
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: The question should have read in the cleaning house and

1475
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. That means everybody goes. But Pete,

1476
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 1: you're you're missing it? Are No, you are because the

1477
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: way the organization is set up, Tom Conflin makes that decision.

1478
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: But if he's part of the problem, he's not making

1479
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: a decision. But here, Tom, you go ahead. You hired

1480
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: a coach that you want to hire, and then we'll

1481
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: get rid of you and hire a new new executive

1482
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: vice president Football Operations. No, no, Pete, that doesn't how

1483
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: it works. Tom will come up with the plan of

1484
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,520
Speaker 1: saying this is what, this is where we are. Here's

1485
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: the plan, fire me and everybody. What's the plan for him?

1486
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: Where's the plan for Tom? Eat? Let me know when

1487
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: you're done talking. Don't Actually he failed me out on

1488
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: this one because he's way off base here, I'll tell

1489
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 1: you I'm off base. This is how the organization set up.

1490
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: Tom will come up with a plan of what he's

1491
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: happening in football. Now Sean doesn't like the plan, Yeah,

1492
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna saying no, that's not a plan. I

1493
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: believe it. I think that's what was asked in the

1494
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: question clean house. And then when we said the day

1495
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: before you get to that point, I mean, doesn't don't

1496
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: you give the guy who's in charge of football a

1497
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: chance to make a get put a plan together. Not

1498
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: when he's not. When he's not when he's perceived to

1499
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: be and assumed to be and and is part of

1500
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: the problem. So you're saying Tom's the problem. I'm saying

1501
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing is a problem. Like I love the

1502
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: guy he's been He's a Hall of Fame coach. He

1503
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: will go into the Hall of Fame. He's a Hall

1504
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: of Fame man. But let's be real. This team is

1505
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: not built to be a sustainable contender as is, and

1506
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: ultimately that falls on Tom. Okay, fair, Okay, fine, if

1507
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 1: you want to position in that way, the question is

1508
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: what do you do? And I said it has to

1509
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: start with what Tom's gonna do, and obviously all follow

1510
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: on him. He's the problem. Okay, we're going round and

1511
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: around circles. Now, Pizza, tell me what about the left

1512
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: which they asked you about left Wich? I don't. I

1513
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: don't think bar I think Barbone is going to be

1514
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: a heck of a head coach in this league. I'm

1515
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: not sure he doesn't need another year calling plays and

1516
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: working with Bruce Matt Rule would be one of the

1517
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: guys I would look at the head beacher failor who

1518
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: the Jets tried to hire last year. I think he's

1519
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: a rising profession Hey, if you want to shoot for

1520
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: the moon, go pride Lincoln Riley away from Oklahoma. Next

1521
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: question at Rachel f l A, why did we go

1522
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: into this season with no depth in any position? Systemic

1523
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: failures for over ten years Pete, Um, you can only

1524
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: have so much depth when you don't draft well. And

1525
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: that's the answer. Yeah, I haven't drafted well. That's why.

1526
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: Now that that's a very broad statement. Obviously they've gotten

1527
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: some right, but just overall, I mean, that's a general statement,

1528
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: and we're not because to break there. Think. Okay, let's

1529
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: be honest. This year's draft looks pretty good too. I

1530
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: always say it's too early to make a judgment of

1531
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: a draft after one year, especially midway through the year.

1532
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: You can't make that judgment. Pete. You don't know that

1533
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: look pretty good until the time you just called. You

1534
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: just called Taylor an asset. So that's it. You saw

1535
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is an asset and there's two giants. Two

1536
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: of the major assets on the team came in that

1537
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: draft as of right now. I agree, Okay, I but

1538
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Sixteen was supposed to be like

1539
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: the greatest draft ever. Let's go through the sixteen draft,

1540
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, No, no longer here, Myles Jack, we got

1541
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: you got assets back for him, so it's kind of

1542
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: a wash. But go ahead, Jalen, ra I mean, Miles, Jack,

1543
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: that's that one hasn't worked out Okay, uh In Gockway

1544
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: was third, Yes, In Gockway worth the pick. Yeah, but

1545
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Okayen NFL draft, Sheldon Day, he's not even here. Go ahead,

1546
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, Tyrone Holmes, keep going. Brandon Allen quarterback, not

1547
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 1: even here, starting for the Broncos. We caught him, go

1548
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: ahead and not very good and not very good. Jonathan

1549
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Woodard defensive end, central arking, so don't even remember. That's it.

1550
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: So my point is, you have one player on the roster,

1551
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: what about the seventeen draft. But but here's my point,

1552
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: like everyone said, like when you make judgments of of

1553
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: the guys, we have two guys left in the roster

1554
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: from the sixteen draft, one who's not playing well, one

1555
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: who's a good, very good pass rusher. We'll go to

1556
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: the seventeen draft and look at that one. You have

1557
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: to have depth. That's why I'm going back to I

1558
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: don't want to go through every draft because if it's

1559
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: not in our depth, Okay, give me the Dante Feller,

1560
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: j T J. Yeldon gone a j Can he's the starter,

1561
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: James Sample safety, Rashad Green, wide receiver, Michael Bennett defensive tackle,

1562
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Sterling tight end, and Ben Koyyak tight ends. Yeah, he's so.

1563
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: So there's your draft. There's no depth from that draft

1564
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 1: at all. One you have one guy on the team.

1565
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: We can play this game in fourteen and thirteen and

1566
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 1: twelve if you want to. There there that does draft

1567
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,799
Speaker 1: for disasters, right, I mean alright, four team Blake Marks

1568
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: is hurt, Allen Robinson's on, Brandon Linder, Aaron Colvin, Telvin

1569
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Smith gone, Chris Smith, Luke Bawenko, Storm Johnson. Because I mean,

1570
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, like this is not like

1571
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: this is not surprising if you just look at like

1572
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: what's happened, Like that's why they go to seventeen. Go

1573
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: to seventeen just for the stake of the argument. One

1574
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: of the here this one a gay starter, Cam Robinson starter,

1575
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Smoot de dd Westbrook, depth, Blair Blair Brown gone, Jaylen

1576
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Myrick Marquez, William fullback. So like you have like after

1577
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: two years. But Pete, you're right, you have to go

1578
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: like the depth of your team is built from like

1579
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, six five, four years ago. Those are now

1580
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: you should be your veterans on your team that are

1581
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: making up your starters, some backup special I mean, those

1582
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: are your guys now seventeen. That's good. I'd hope most

1583
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: of them are here. It's only been two years, right, yes,

1584
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean you don't want to lose him after two years? Correct? Um? Well, okay,

1585
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: what's the draft with Chark, d J Chark, Ronnie Harris

1586
01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Jackson um quality start. That's a good pick. Go ahead,

1587
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: keep going on, Ronnie Harrison starting to be determined. He starting,

1588
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: but he's ahead, Will Richardson, Tanner Lee quarterback, Leon Jacob's linebacker,

1589
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: he's a specialty player. And Logan Cook who will be

1590
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: a pro bowler most likely. So so basically that draft.

1591
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 1: They got depth out of that draft and players. Okay,

1592
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: the problem with that draft is they drafted Brian with

1593
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: the first round pick. That's the problem. But that I

1594
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: mean the answer. Whoever, We'll take a break here and

1595
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: then let's do more social media next time, next day. Yeah, okay,

1596
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: let's do more good because you will shut up. No,

1597
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: Pete's doing the most talking here. But that's the death answer.

1598
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: That's why. All right, let's get to our final social

1599
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: media question. Just because Tony wants to at son of

1600
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 1: Duvall nine oh four, can we stop pretending like Folds

1601
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback on this roster. Now the offense

1602
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: looks flashy and exciting with Minshew. Now it looks prehistoric

1603
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: and downright boring with folds. Folds is boring an average Blah, Tony,

1604
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: how many points did we score against the Texans? Not enough?

1605
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: How many three? How many we score against the Saints? Six? Yeah, okay,

1606
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: here's the garbage pun They had three points when the

1607
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: game mattered, Tony, No, No, My point is it's no different.

1608
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: It's insane scoring point Bain scoredy points with when they

1609
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: played like good teams, Like like, what's the they scored?

1610
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: They scored fifteen total points against the Texans in two games. Okay,

1611
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: no read read out. They lost, Uh you know a

1612
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: week one that he's lost forty to twenty six. Okay,

1613
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: so that was I think that's the high point ahead

1614
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: and seven of those were full Houston Texans. They lost

1615
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: thirteen twelve, scored twelve points. But he drove him down

1616
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: the field. Was his first start. Taking a shot at Mintshew,

1617
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot that this misnomer, like we had

1618
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: this high flying offense that was flashy and amazing when

1619
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: he was the quarterback. That's not accurate. They beat the

1620
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: Titans twenty seven on Thursday, twenty points in this day's lead,

1621
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: big deal, mins you mania took off the win in Denver,

1622
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: come from behind, good game, showed some grit. Lost to

1623
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: the Panthers thirty twenty seven when McCaffrey ran for a

1624
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: thousand seven that good points. Thirteen six Saints wins, six

1625
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: seventeen win over the Bengals, Okay, alright, win over the Jets, okay,

1626
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 1: And and actually they've been playing good defense, better defense,

1627
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: twenty six three loss to the Texans in London. Already

1628
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: loss to the Colts, that's, of course. So I guess

1629
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 1: my point is, I don't see like there's a couple

1630
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 1: of games they scored points against teams that were really

1631
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: bad at that point. Um, I'm not saying like I

1632
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: like mitsche I think mitche has a chance to be

1633
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of this team. I think he'd be

1634
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: a franchise guys. Very possible. There's a possibility of that,

1635
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: real possibility. My whole point is saying that somehow, like

1636
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: there's this myth that we had this flashy offense that

1637
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: was going up and down the field with Mitschew, and

1638
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: it's just stalled out with falls. Is there to mean

1639
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: one quick thing? Is there a chance Minshew is the

1640
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in September of two thousand and twenty, Wow

1641
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Ben the night bench, the eighty million dollar man. I

1642
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: think there is now where I do agree with the

1643
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: text message or the social media question. It is it

1644
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 1: felt more exciting because Mitch you could extend plays and

1645
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: make off schedule plays. Folds has not shown us that,

1646
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 1: and that people wanted it to be more exciting because

1647
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: he was a six round pick, he didn't cost any money.

1648
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: He came out of nowhere. They wanted it to be

1649
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: more exciting. But even if it wasn't, I'm going to

1650
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: make it out to be. I agree. But where I

1651
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 1: agree with the question the social media question is the

1652
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: off schedule plays, the scrambling making guys miss. I mean,

1653
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 1: that was fun and it was and then it became

1654
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of alive. I'm not disagreeing because the

1655
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: other thing we don't talk about he was leading I

1656
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 1: think at one time leading the NFL and fumbles as well.

1657
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: Because of ball security, So there's a lot like we

1658
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: just make these blankets statements and because of perception and

1659
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not reality. Just asked any married man. But

1660
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: the fact that you think there's a chance he could

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01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,400
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is thumbing through Twitter. He hasn't had enough

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Speaker 1: of the social questions apparently tonight. I can't get it.

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Speaker 1: You can't get enough. I love the people. You're a

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Speaker 1: people person. People. Uh, yeah, that that you are. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man. I'm a man of the people. I'm man

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Speaker 1: of the people. One quick thing. You know what's sad

1756
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Speaker 1: with what's going on here is Tom's legacy in the

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Speaker 1: eyes of the fans is being tarnished because of this.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that, no, but it is um okay,

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Speaker 1: I think I agree. Yes, let me ask this. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. I wasn't around here when he was gone.

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Speaker 1: When he left here, he didn't leave on great terms.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I mean, Pete covered the team just left.

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Speaker 1: You just left. But I was gone to by the way,

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Speaker 1: mean it was the fans that were demanding Wayne make

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Speaker 1: a trade, I mean a change. Correct. I was still

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Speaker 1: on the radio in Jacksonville. Next. What wasn't that It

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Speaker 1: wasn't that the issue. I mean, the fans were the

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Speaker 1: out of whack, remember, Yeah, And they had a number

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Speaker 1: of losing seasons and I think, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: Tom Toma, he had lost his way a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm bringing this up because whatever happens

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Speaker 1: this year and next year, whenever or maybe ten years

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Speaker 1: from now, hopefully whenever Tom uh is no longer in

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Speaker 1: the role he's in, whether it's self induced and he's

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Speaker 1: just ready to retire and go on, or if there's

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Speaker 1: My hope is that time will heal all wounds, and

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Speaker 1: that's usually what happens that you know, a couple of

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Speaker 1: years away from it, there will be no tar, you know,

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Speaker 1: the positive and all that was done. Um, because I

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Speaker 1: don't want that's the last thing anyone watched. I don't

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Speaker 1: But it will and it has. But time heals those things,

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Speaker 1: I think, yes, yes it does. But right now the

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Speaker 1: be angry. People are best thing about Tom. Here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing about Tom. In my mind. Tom Coughlan is

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Speaker 1: one of the great coaches this league has ever seen.

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Speaker 1: A Hall of Fame coach, Hall of Fame personnel hasn't

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Speaker 1: always been a strong student, Tony. Let's be real, and

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Speaker 1: I can go back and point out many, many, many,

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Speaker 1: And the second part of that is, and I said

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Speaker 1: you can't say that about. Let's touch on the a

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Speaker 1: f C. Nothing else to add. That's why I tried

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Speaker 1: to move on. That's right, he's very well said. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to say. I mean, we were quiet. I

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Speaker 1: well said. We'll give it an amen, Amen, Amen, Let's

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Speaker 1: go a f C South results Thursday Night football, the

1813
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Speaker 1: Texans over the Colds seventeen, DeShawn Watson through a couple

1814
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Speaker 1: of touchdowns, and of course, the only other division game

1815
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1816
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Speaker 1: again for the Colts. But the Texans come away with

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Speaker 1: a win and the division lead. Pete. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 1: have the best quarterback and so how would somebody asked

1819
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Speaker 1: ranked the quarterbacks right now in the ANC South Watson

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1824
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1825
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1826
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Speaker 1: The Colt said every opportunity to win that game. They

1828
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1839
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1840
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Speaker 1: And uh, I was a little bit surprised as t

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Speaker 1: Y wasn't himself. He wasn't by any means, and so

1842
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1843
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1844
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Speaker 1: the rookie as they drafted. Um, so now they lost.

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Speaker 1: Now they lost Ebron two for the year. What was

1846
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1847
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Speaker 1: I don't remember, So that was a little bit surprising. Um.

1848
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Speaker 1: But listen the Texas one they split this year. I

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1851
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Speaker 1: plays Indie this week and then they have the Texans

1852
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Speaker 1: controls their destiny, even though they wouldn't shock you to

1854
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Speaker 1: see them win the division, would it? No, not at all?

1855
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Speaker 1: My Raybriel, there's a good job, I think, uh was it?

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Speaker 1: John Robinson? Their GM. Yes, that came over from Tampa.

1857
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Speaker 1: They worked well together. They build the team based on

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Speaker 1: Our j P shattered Tony was Sally Pete prescoll. We

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Speaker 1: really should do that in commercial podcasts Uncensored. No, we

1921
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: talked about it every week. I don't think we should,

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Speaker 1: especially this week. This will be a good episode this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be smart. Why is he? Is

1924
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Speaker 1: he uh lit tonight? He's crying about us teaming up

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01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: on him tonight? No, well that's not accurate. You were

1926
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Speaker 1: I was not crying, giant. First of all, if you

1927
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Speaker 1: believe that I got some swamp land, I can sell you. Um.

1928
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:09,560
Speaker 1: JP is a liar and we now have that confirmed

1929
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Speaker 1: that he is uh misleading the people. How do you

1930
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 1: have that confirmed? What are you talking about? I've confirmed?

1931
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Speaker 1: Oh you you are the sword he made himself the

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Speaker 1: source of his own story. Can't you do that, Pete? Journalism?

1933
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Speaker 1: Oh you need to get another source that I heard.

1934
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Speaker 1: Nowadays you're able to do. That's a new standard. No, nowadays,

1935
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 1: don't even do any sources. Just say it. That's my point.

1936
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 1: Let's go around the games. In Week twelve league, the

1937
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: Bucketeers over the Falcons thirty two Jamis and the Bucks

1938
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:49,560
Speaker 1: with a wind Pete, Yeah, died. The Falcons were the

1939
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: story though for me in this game they looked like

1940
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: they had righted things after the last two weeks, and

1941
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,759
Speaker 1: they went back to being miserable again, and no sacks

1942
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: after getting bunches of them the last two weeks. So

1943
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 1: Winston holds the ball forever? What's that? And I said,

1944
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: and Winston holds the ball forever. He does hold the

1945
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: ball forever, But he also threw for three thirty and

1946
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and two interceptions. Would you take three thirty

1947
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns right? Two interceptions and two interceptions? Would

1948
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: you take that? JP? Don't be he would take it.

1949
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 1: That's why he's not answering. That's not I don't believe

1950
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: you play football planning on turning the ball over. It

1951
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work. So you're planning on it. You never plan

1952
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 1: You have to give the two picks with them. They

1953
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Speaker 1: come along and trust me, show me the last time

1954
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: Jamis did not throw a pick in the game. Probably

1955
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 1: been a while. I can look that up. By the way,

1956
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: the Bills over. The last time somebody in Jacksonville threw

1957
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes in I can't remember. It's been a while.

1958
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: The Bills over the Broncos. Frank Gore becomes a third

1959
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 1: all time leading rusher, surpassing Barry Sanders, trialing only Emmett

1960
01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: and Walter Payton. He's in the past Walter Payton most likely.

1961
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what is the A few hundred yards left? Yeah,

1962
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 1: and it's it's a testament to his longevity. I mean,

1963
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: think about this for a second and got toward two

1964
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Speaker 1: a c ls in college. No, he's remarkable. He's a

1965
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 1: and he's not slowing I mean, I guess he's slowing down,

1966
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 1: but his yards for attampt is still good. Okay, this

1967
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Speaker 1: is gonna be sound like I'm a homewer. As good

1968
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 1: as he is and as Hall of Fame worthy as

1969
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: he is, he wanted better running back in fred Taylor.

1970
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 1: I take Freddy t By the way, the last special,

1971
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 1: last interception free game for Jamis was at Seattle on

1972
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: the third of November. Wow, I stand correct too. He

1973
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: was passing and they lost. Tony would take that though.

1974
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: Throws Bears over the Giants nineteen fourteen, struggle to get

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: points in that game. You're talking about that game Steelers

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 1: over the Angles sixteen. Tin Hodges new quarterback man, and

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01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: they might slide into this thing Mason Rudolph out Ruda, Uh,

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Speaker 1: in and uh and said that war this week with

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Speaker 1: the Browns, the rematch. I can't wait to see it.

1981
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 1: They're six and five and they have an easy record

1982
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: to schedule coming up. He's schedule coming up. I mean

1983
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 1: they testament to uh, Mike Tomlin, I mean what a job.

1984
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they have injuries, lost guys. They think about

1985
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: that they played yesterday. They're played a bad team, but

1986
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: they played yesterday without Smith, Schuster, Connor Roethlisberger. I mean,

1987
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: thank you, hold and on it goes. Yeah, they also

1988
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: played the Bengals yesterday. But still you're still winning games

1989
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: you're supposed to win. Are the Bengals gonna go winless,

1990
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: they're going back to Dalton. Now, did you see that

1991
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: the Browns over the Dolphins. The brains of Mayfield actually

1992
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 1: looked good. But he's playing a Dolphins, so it's like

1993
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 1: a seven on seven game practice. The Brown's gonna make

1994
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: a run here. Pete, Well, the loser of this week's

1995
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: game between the Steelers and Browns is out elimination game.

1996
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: According to Pete Prisco Saints over the Panthers. Late second

1997
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: or last second field goal for the Saints, got it

1998
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 1: done Panthers, mr field goal Panthers for the Saints. By

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01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 1: the way, it's a bunch of feld. The Panthers missed

2000
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: a chip shot amongst other field goals, but the chip

2001
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: shot was like a twenty nine yard to take the lead.

2002
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 1: And at that point, worst case scenario, they go to overtime,

2003
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 1: right and and Tony. But here's what. In the last

2004
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 1: two of the last three games, the Saints lost to

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01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: the Falcons by getting whipped physically on both lines. And

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01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 1: now they almost lost or should have lost the Panthers

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01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 1: by giving up thirty one or it should have been

2008
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 1: thirty four. Not a good look for a team that

2009
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: at one point we thought was in the conversation to

2010
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 1: be the best team in the league. Yeah, that's fair,

2011
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: But I think the Panthers are better than people give

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01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: them credit for. Not defensively, they're not fair. Jets over

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Speaker 1: the Raiders three shocker of the weekend World happen. I

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Speaker 1: think I was one of my best picks of the week.

2015
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 1: The rest of them stunt, But I thought the Jets

2016
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 1: would win that game. Not that, not by no. I

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01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: thought Derrick car would throw some passes and hit some

2018
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: passes as well. It's a perfect storm. Got a West

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01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: Coast team going east, playing an early start against a

2020
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: team that's playing much better. And then, oh, by the way,

2021
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 1: next week, the Raiders played the Chiefs in the rivalry

2022
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: game for the division. So how did how did? How

2023
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: did Sam Donald book? Much better? He's getting better and better.

2024
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: Let's get through the rest of these quickly. Seahawks over

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01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles seventeen nine, the Redskins beat the Lions nineteen sixteen,

2026
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots somehow beat the Cowboys thirteen to nine, and

2027
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 1: the forty Niners flex some muscles in a thirty seven

2028
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: and eight over the Packers. The Packers are nowhere near

2029
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC, right now, right now,

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01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 1: the best team by far, it's the It is the

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01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. They're the best team in the

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Speaker 1: NFC is just stop denying it. It's the truth, Baby football.

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01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 1: The MVP front runner Lamar Jackson brings the eight and

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01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 1: to Baltimore Ravens to Los Angeles to face the six

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Speaker 1: and four Rams, including three former Jaguar's first round draft picks.

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01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 1: Huge ball game at the l A Coliseum. Who you

2037
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: got tonight? I like the Ravens. I think the Ravens

2038
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: are the best team in the a f c UH

2039
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna and they play really

2040
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 1: good defense, opportunistic defense. The offensive line for the Rams

2041
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: is not very good, and I don't think I don't

2042
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: think the Rams are gonna slow down Lamar Jackson. I

2043
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 1: think he has a big night in l A. I

2044
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: disagree with you. I think the Rams are gonna win

2045
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 1: that game, and I think Wade Phillips is gonna come

2046
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 1: up with the perfect game plan to slow down Lamar

2047
01:58:56,360 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 1: jack What is that beat? Have a great week. We'll

2048
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: talk to you next time. And Happy Thanksgiving, Thanks Peter.

2049
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you guys too. Yeah, Pete Prisco CPS

2050
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: sports scene writer. Happy Thanksgiving to you and do you.

2051
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: I'll be in Atlanta doing the game on Thanksgiving, so

2052
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 1: have a Turkey leg for me. We'll do it, Tony,

2053
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: but sell your entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time. Thank you for watching on Jaguars dot com,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Facebook, and thank you for listening on Jaguars Radio

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