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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Johnny Bench a little bit later on,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Chris Mannox. He covers the NBA for

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Sean Salisbury. He is a talk show host

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Speaker 1: in Houston. Former NFL quarterback. On the possibility of the

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Speaker 1: Texans trading J. J. Watt, Yes, Paul, excuse me, Yes,

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Speaker 1: sorry to break the news to you, but the Houston

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Speaker 1: Chronicle is saying maybe that's what the Texans should be doing.

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Speaker 1: Will Fuller is a wide receiver that you might be

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Speaker 1: able to trade him, and the Green Bay Packers reportedly

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Speaker 1: are interested in him. If I'm the Texans, I would

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Speaker 1: trade JJ Watt, depending on what I can get. Can

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Speaker 1: I get a first round draft pick for JJ Watt?

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Speaker 1: And if I can, I'm gonna trade JJ Watt. Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien's not there any longer. And I think you got

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Speaker 1: to decide are you trying to reload or rebuild? And

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Speaker 1: I think coming into this season, we thought that they

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Speaker 1: were reloading. This is a mess though. This is a

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Speaker 1: mess going forward with the Texans salary cap issues. They

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Speaker 1: don't have draft picks. But I could see J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: You could send him to Seattle Green Bay, maybe have

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Speaker 1: him with his brother in Pittsburgh. Yes, that was my

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Speaker 1: wild card. Yeah, sure, why not. But we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury about that. And the Rockets got a new

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Speaker 1: head coach. He's a Steve Silas, Paul Silas's son, and

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Speaker 1: James Harden and Russell Westbrook, let's run it back, and

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Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen there. We'll talk to Mannix

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Speaker 1: about Darryl Moray, who left Houston and he was the

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Speaker 1: architect of that Rockets roster. Now he's in Philadelphia, and

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Speaker 1: what the plan is with Doc Rivers, but he'll have

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Speaker 1: Joe l embiid you at least give it one year.

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Speaker 1: They have some big salary cap issues there with Al

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Speaker 1: Horford Tobias Harris, but can you make it work? And

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Speaker 1: what will that roster look like? What will their playing

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on. And Johnny Bench, one of

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Speaker 1: my boyhood idols, is selling all of his memorabilia and

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Speaker 1: Got some news about Justin Turner and what kind of

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Speaker 1: punishment for him from a source last night. Got some

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Speaker 1: information about Nebraska football. I'll have that for you coming

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Speaker 1: play of the day, stat of the day, all of

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Speaker 1: gotten word at ten ten Eastern time yesterday morning that

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Nebraska game was in jeopardy and that Graham Mertz,

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Speaker 1: me last night, I'll give you the information that Nebraska

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Speaker 1: You have to have enough games here, and if you're

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Speaker 1: a cash grab. Let's just go out get some money,

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve championship. But that's the information I have. Nebraska

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Speaker 1: Lincoln to play. Yes, McLevin, so Wednesday. How do you

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Speaker 1: seems crazy. This whole season is crazy. Yeah see, but

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Speaker 1: stuff that's going on right now, and in many ways,

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Speaker 1: Big Ten footballs a microcosm of the uncertain situation surrounding COVID,

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Speaker 1: But hopefully what happened in Wisconsin is isolated. But you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty season. And we brought this up at the

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Speaker 1: You know, you can't bubble, and that's the big difference

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Speaker 1: more information with them. All right, mclove and you got

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Speaker 1: a pull question today? Okay? For our one? And how

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Speaker 1: about we put up that JJ Watt question that you asked.

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Speaker 1: What's a bigger question? Would you take a first round

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Speaker 1: like Green Bay somebody who needs help. You know, Seattle

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Speaker 1: should they consider trading him? Yeah? Well, first off, Dan,

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Speaker 1: to be odd. I think they should. Dan. Here's what

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Speaker 1: So I would. Texans are going to have to rebuild.

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Speaker 1: gonna want what fifteen, sixteen, seventeen million dollars. No, go

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Speaker 1: get an asset, trading for a second or a third

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Speaker 1: round pick and keep it moving. Son We got to

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Speaker 1: move on, and if you want to build a franchise,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to wait because this team I can't

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Speaker 1: even visualize where they're going in the next three or

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Speaker 1: four years with no assets. I know one thing, I

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Speaker 1: got a left tackle in a quarterback that ain't doing

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Speaker 1: me any good. I can I can win one game

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Speaker 1: with me at quarterback. But I also wonder if I'm

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Speaker 1: Eric B. Enemy, the offensive coordinator with the Chiefs, who's

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Speaker 1: got he's going to have an opportunity to take his pick?

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Speaker 1: Probably let's say the Jets are open. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Jacksonville is going to be open, Atlanta is open,

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Speaker 1: the Texans is you know that situation is open. If

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Speaker 1: I'm Eric B. Enemy, you start to look at the

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Speaker 1: inventory you have here with what's the future which my

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Speaker 1: salary campoy kind of draft picks? Who do I have?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If Eric B. Enemy goes boy Texans,

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Speaker 1: that's the place I want to go. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: you start to look at Atlanta too, right, Dan, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's a situation. You're exactly right. The one thing

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Speaker 1: that drives you to the Texans is the number four. Right,

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Speaker 1: you say number four? Then you say, well the front office,

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Speaker 1: how committed are they? What's the general manager? What's his

449
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Speaker 1: longevity here? But if much Jets or Jacksonville, I may

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Speaker 1: have Trevor Lawrence. And I'd rather have Trevor Lawrence than

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Speaker 1: de Shawn Watson. Dan, I had posed the question yesterday

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Speaker 1: on my show, would you trade Trevor Lawrence straight up

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson? The Jets wouldn't. The Texans should, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's not going to happen. That's a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, if I'm Eric the enemy, while it seems like, well,

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback of all the guys you named is

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, But if you go to the Jets, it's

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Speaker 1: a team, there's no expectations right off the bat. You

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Speaker 1: go get Trevor Lawrence, and maybe Trevor Lawrence makes that

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Speaker 1: a free agent destination as well, and you have far

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Speaker 1: more assets, and he's a generational type player. Watson maybe

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Speaker 1: as well, But I'm with you. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: the lead dog anymore. Considering the situation here. Although the

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Speaker 1: enemy is going to get a job, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that Houston will be the first one on the list.

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Speaker 1: Now he's Sean Salisbury. You can hear him on Sports

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Speaker 1: Talk seven ninety and Houston the Sean Salisbury Show. While

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Speaker 1: we're talking about trading iconic figures here, would the Rockets

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Speaker 1: consider trading James Harden? I don't think they could trade

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, but would they consider trading James Harden been

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Speaker 1: a huge topic now with Stephen Silas named the head coach.

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Speaker 1: Dan on my show this morning of why not if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go and get there right because they're not

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Speaker 1: winning an NBA title with with the roster how it's

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Speaker 1: constructed in the small ball and they don't have think

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Speaker 1: about the lack of draft picks, the Astros, with the

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Speaker 1: with the problems with the Steins sign stealing the Rockets

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Speaker 1: who've gotten rid of all, they don't have any assets

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Speaker 1: coming in and the Texans, Dan, we ain't got a

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Speaker 1: draft pick till twenty forty. Okay, grand kids are going

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Speaker 1: to be playing by then, so they won't Dan he's

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Speaker 1: got more powers. I think James loves being powerful, and

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Speaker 1: he is powerful in this organization. And once he walks

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Speaker 1: out the door, what assets you're gonna get for him

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Speaker 1: that are gonna help you win, get to a championship.

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Speaker 1: Because he goes out, his value is not going to

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Speaker 1: get which he what four first round picks were they

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Speaker 1: going to be picked? Is that the Knicks? Who's he

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Speaker 1: going to and they love him here and you say, well,

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Speaker 1: are you going to get an offensive player? Would nobody

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Speaker 1: trades like quarterbacks. Rarely do you trade a superstar that

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Speaker 1: can score for you. And whether it's team's coming here,

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Speaker 1: James going out, He's not going anywhere right now either,

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Speaker 1: even with their own Marie out of the building and

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Speaker 1: on his way to Philly and a new head coach

496
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Speaker 1: coming in and they're going to build it around James Harden.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win fifty games, they're going to get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they're going to be eliminated. I would

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Speaker 1: consider it if you're going to rebuild, let's go now.

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Speaker 1: But with that salary and with the love of this

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Speaker 1: city and his offensive performance, James Harden is not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Although that's another one that they should consider great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you is always Sean. You got a couple

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Speaker 1: of topics there to dive into on your show, certainly? Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Why are you smirking? I got a lot. I'm not smirking.

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Speaker 1: I am. I am going to dive into all of them.

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Speaker 1: But thank you. It's great to be on your show. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm always appreciate. Now there you go. I appreciate it. Dan, Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. That's Sean Salisbury, morning host of The

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Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Sucks seven. Ninety Houston, former

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app, at

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Speaker 1: us are or stream us live on the Peacock app.

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Speaker 1: Chris Mannix joining us and senior NBA rider for Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with the schedule, Mannix and the importance

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Speaker 1: of the NBA coming back and playing these games on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Day. What do you think I mean? The NBA

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Speaker 1: understands that, at least for the first quarter of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, it's highly unlikely that we see fans in

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Speaker 1: the stadium. So to maximize their revenue, it's as simple

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Speaker 1: as maximizing their games. And by starting the season during

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Speaker 1: Christmas Week, you can squeeze in a seventy two games

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Speaker 1: schedule that ends sometime in late June. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: equally important Dan to this process as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, Adam Silver has said this to me, he

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Speaker 1: said this to others, Like, they want to get out

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Speaker 1: next year before the start of the scheduled Olympics. They

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Speaker 1: don't want to be playing deep into the summer and

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Speaker 1: competing with swimming and track and field and things that

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Speaker 1: people watch during an Olympic cycle. They want to be

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Speaker 1: out out of normal times. They can reset their calendar

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Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty two seasons, so by starting in

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Speaker 1: late December, they can get as many games as possible.

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Speaker 1: They can fulfill their regional sports contracts, which is important,

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Speaker 1: maximize those national contracts and at least generate as much

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Speaker 1: revenue as they possibly can. Yeah, but the Players Union

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Speaker 1: is going to push back on this. Yeah, the Players

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Speaker 1: Union has pushed back on this, will push back on this.

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Speaker 1: Michelle Roberts her comments this week to the Athletic are

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Speaker 1: in line with everything she said to other reporters, including me.

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Speaker 1: I mean I spoke to her, you know, back in

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Speaker 1: August and asked her about this specific question, knowing the

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Speaker 1: NBA would probably want to get back at some point December,

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Speaker 1: and she said to me that twenty twenty just didn't

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Speaker 1: feel like a realistic possibility. And now here you are,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months before antled in start date,

549
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Speaker 1: and Michelle Roberts is saying the exact same things. Now understand, Dan,

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Speaker 1: there are probably half the teams in the league that

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Speaker 1: are going to be ready to go. You had eight

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Speaker 1: teams that didn't go to the bubble that have effectively

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Speaker 1: been off since March. You've got another half dozen teams

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Speaker 1: that were done in mid August. I mean, there are

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Speaker 1: teams out there that are ready for that start. But

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Speaker 1: you can underestimate the power of one team and the

557
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Speaker 1: power of one player, and that's the Lakers and Lebron

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Speaker 1: James in this process. I mean, I talked to a

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Speaker 1: player just last night and he told me he's like,

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Speaker 1: if Lebron doesn't want to play, we're not playing. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it probably isn't as simple as that. But

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Speaker 1: Lebron James will have a big influence in this process.

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Speaker 1: Explain to me what the seventy sixers are going to

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Speaker 1: look like when they take the floor this upcoming season,

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Speaker 1: now that you bring in Doc Rivers, you've got Daryl

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Speaker 1: Morey in there as well, what kind of style and

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Speaker 1: will we have the same lineup on the floor. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the question, right, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the big the biggest question you have now is what

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Speaker 1: does this mean for Joel Embid Ben Simmons. Now, before

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Speaker 1: Daryl Morey was hired, it was almost a mortal lock

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Speaker 1: that you would see Simmons and MBI back with this

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Speaker 1: team together. It's probably likely that you see Simmons Embid

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Speaker 1: back to start next season. But Daryl Morey is a

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Speaker 1: free wheeling general manager who has not been afraid in

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Speaker 1: the past to shake up his roster and make significant moves.

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Speaker 1: And he's a general manager that bases a lot of

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Speaker 1: his philosophies on analytics and texting with other gms. They

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Speaker 1: they kind of said the same thing to me. They

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Speaker 1: were like, well, I wonder what this means for mbing Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Will Darrel look to move one of those guys to

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Speaker 1: create a more modern NBA like Embid is great. Simmons,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that he can't shoot, is a great player,

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Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily fit the modern NBA and be

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Speaker 1: the low post presence. Simmons a non, non three point shooter.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna bear watching in the next month

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Speaker 1: two months. You know how Darryl Morey views this roster

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Speaker 1: and if he thinks that m Beaden Simmons can play together.

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Speaker 1: But also you have Steven Silos taking over in Houston,

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Speaker 1: So no Morey, no D'Antoni, and what's that mean for

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Speaker 1: the style of the Houston Rockets. Well, first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: Steven Silas is an excellent coach, like he has been

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Speaker 1: effectively a coach in waiting for the better part of

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Speaker 1: the last four or five years. I mean, he was

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Speaker 1: considered strongly for that Houston job back in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: before Mike D'Antoni was hired for it. He's been considered

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Speaker 1: strongly for another handful of jobs since then. He's got

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Speaker 1: a great background. If you go back all the way

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Speaker 1: through his early days, Steph Curry and Clay Thompson were

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Speaker 1: two players that worked really well with him back in

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Speaker 1: Golden State. So all that being said, Rockets are an

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Speaker 1: almost impossible coaching job at this point. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's style of play changes simply because it can't. Like

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Speaker 1: they're not going to go out there and suddenly have

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Speaker 1: salary cap space. They're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: significantly alter their front court to add another big man.

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Speaker 1: I think Steven Salad's going to have his own twist

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Speaker 1: on some things. But in Houston, barring a substantial deal

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Speaker 1: involving James Harden, I don't believe you can change the

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Speaker 1: way they play significantly enough to make a difference. He's

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Speaker 1: Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer. I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. There was a little chatter about maybe Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul coming back Rajon Rondo with the Clippers. What kind

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Speaker 1: of moves can the Clippers make to counter what's going

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Speaker 1: to be an extremely strong, you know West again next season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're extremely limited in what they can do.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the draft capital to make a trade.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have the assets in general, whether it's

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Speaker 1: young players or otherwise, to make a deal. What they

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Speaker 1: do have are some of these salary exceptions and you

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Speaker 1: can throw an exception at a Rajon Rondo, and Rondo, look,

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Speaker 1: his stock hasn't been this high since he left Boston.

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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. I mean, the way he

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Speaker 1: played in the playoffs proving once again and he's on

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Speaker 1: a championship level. The Clippers could certainly use something like that.

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Speaker 1: When Patrick Beverley went down the playoffs, they were really

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Speaker 1: missing something at that position, and Rondo can bring something

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Speaker 1: to that slot. So I think you're going to see

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Speaker 1: fringes a little bit. You'll see maybe a Rondo added

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Speaker 1: it's more likely than nod that the Clippers dig deep

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Speaker 1: into their pocketbook bring back, you know, some of the

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Speaker 1: players they have as free agents, whether it's Montres Harold

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Speaker 1: or Marcus Morris or Jamichael Green, and try to run

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Speaker 1: this thing back. That's kind of the message Dan they

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00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: were sending when they brought in ty Lou. I mean,

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00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: ty Lou is an excellent coach, but he's also a

639
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: coach that can establish continuity that can help that team

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00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: hit the ground running whenever next season starts. So I

641
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: think they bring this band largely back together. I couldn't

642
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: help but think when Lebron was celebrating the title the

643
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: confetti is coming down, that he was immediately thinking who

644
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: can I get on this roster? Like what do we add?

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Speaker 1: And you know there was talk about Chris Paul, that

646
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: can you bring in Chris Paul? Do you need Chris Paul?

647
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: If Lebron just had an incredible season as your point guard?

648
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: What are the Lakers add or subtract? Well, I don't

649
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: know that there's much room for them to add or

650
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: subtract anything either, for largely the same reasons that you

651
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: know the Clippers have. But the Lakers are in a

652
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: slightly different position in that in the summer of twenty

653
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: twenty one they could have some pretty significant salary cap flexibility.

654
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: They could make some moves where I believe they'll be

655
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: right around thirty million dollars in available cap space depending

656
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: on what they do with some of these contracts this offseason.

657
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: So their goal to make a significant change probably lies

658
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Speaker 1: in the summer of twenty twenty one. The Chris stuff

659
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: you got, Chris Paul makes like, you know, seventy five

660
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: billion dollars or whatever. It is like he has. He

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00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: has one of the biggest contracts in Yeah, that's an exaggeration, Chris. Okay,

662
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: perhaps it's over the time, but but if you're acquiring

663
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Speaker 1: Chris Paul, you've got to basically, you know, got your

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Speaker 1: team or deal a big, big name player and really

665
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Speaker 1: do willing to roll the dice. That's why a team

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00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: like Milwaukee still looms. I think is the strongest candidate

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00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: to extract Chris Paul from Oaklaw, which I believe is

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00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: going to app Yeah, they could use him more than anybody.

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Speaker 1: And if they had Chris Paul this past season, I

670
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: think it would have been different. I think he would

671
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: have meant that much to them. And Dan, you you

672
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: can you can make it work in Milwaukee. You can

673
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Speaker 1: put together a combination of Eric Bledsoe, George Hill. You

674
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: can sweeten the pot with a Dante di Vincenzo or

675
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: a draft pick. You can make an appealing offer to

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Speaker 1: to a team like Oklahoma City. And if you're the Bucks,

677
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. I mean, worst case scenario, you know,

678
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Jannis leaves after next season, You're stuck with one extra

679
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: year of a big contract with Chris Paul. After the

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00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two season, you would wipe the books

681
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: basically clean to start from scratch. So there is there

682
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: is no easier move or more of a no brainer

683
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: move to make than Chris Paul going to Milwaukee before

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Speaker 1: I let you go. I know you you're not married,

685
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: but you fall in love a lot when it comes

686
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: to the NBA Draft. Have you fallen in love with

687
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Speaker 1: somebody A little bit? A little bit. I'm a guy,

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Speaker 1: this is getting recorded. I'm a I'm a big James

689
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: Wiseman guy, big James Wiseman guy. I don't know what

690
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: to compare him to. I see a little bit of

691
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: like David Robinson's game in him from back in the day.

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00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: He's a hyper athletic seven foot one guy who I

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Speaker 1: think if he is drafted by Golden State with the

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Speaker 1: number two pay in the draft, he's gonna be a

695
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: player there for a long time, and he's gonna be

696
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: affected for that team almost immediately. I think, whether it's

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00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: a trade or Anthony Edwards, that's probably the number one

698
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: pick for Golden State sitting there at number two. If

699
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: they don't make a deal, I think James Wiseman's their guy,

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: and I think he's one of not the best player

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00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: in this draft. Yes, mclovin, Chris, I know you've been

702
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: in the bubble for a while. Have you been there

703
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty eight? Have you noticed that US centers

704
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: don't matter anymore? Athletics centers who can run the floor.

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Speaker 1: James Wiseman played for Penny Hardaway down in Memphis, and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Penny about this recently. Uh. You know,

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00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: Penny used to show Wiseman all these tapes of Shack,

708
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: and Wiseman such a young guy that he viewed Shack

709
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: as kind of this, you know, the lumbering big man

710
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: we saw with the Lakers. He forgot and you know

711
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: this Dan, in the nineteen nineties, Shack ran the floor.

712
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: Shack was one of the most athletic big men in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. And I think Wiseman's got a little bit

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: of that in him, a little bit of the ability

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Speaker 1: to dominate and run the open floor. What about my

716
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: guy from Israel? No, you're now, You're getting too deep

717
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: in the weeds for me there, Danny Danny of Vida

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Speaker 1: no Yadja. I'm not even touching that. You don't even

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Speaker 1: him going this this. I know who he is, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough to God, he looks he looks great.

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Speaker 1: Danny at deja hope, we're hope we're rolling on this

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Speaker 1: stuff too, not just my Oh no, I've already said

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Speaker 1: it before this, okay, all right, yeah, Because but he

724
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: could he could wind up being Nicholas Nicholas Skittish Valley.

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00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: Could it was just a tall guy, that was it

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00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: he then he can then he can be Dragon Bender

727
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: or Mario Zonia or Rafael Arroyo or any of the

728
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: other international imports or Dante exumtex him at injury issues.

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Speaker 1: That's why dot Exum didn't pan has I should say

730
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Speaker 1: hold on, I should say has pandemic. Way to go,

731
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: big opportunity in Cleveland this year. Oh yeah, yeah, they're

732
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: talking about him. Uh Hey, thank you, Chris. I appreciate

733
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Speaker 1: your time as always, you got Dan. Thanks for listening

734
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

735
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or

736
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your

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00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports

738
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on

739
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R or stream

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00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: us Live on the Peacock act I mentioned earlier in

741
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: the show, my college football source told me that when

742
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: Nebraska found out Wisconsin could not get their team ready

743
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: due to COVID to travel to Lincoln, Nebraska, Nebraska was

744
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: on the phone yesterday morning trying to find an opponent

745
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: for this weekend. Didn't hear anything yesterday, but I've heard

746
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: something today and it's being reported the University of Tennessee,

747
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Chattanooga and Nebraska close to finalizing an agreement to play

748
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Speaker 1: this Saturday in Lincoln, Nebraska. The Chattanooga Times Free Press

749
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: has learned through multiple sources the Cornhuskers game against what

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin canceled earlier this week. The game is awaiting approval

751
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: from the Big Ten Conference, which had previously set an

752
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: eight game conference only schedule this fall. And keep in mind,

753
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: when all of this was going on, when Nebraska was

754
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: going to go rogue and if the Big Ten wasn't playing,

755
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: then Nebraska was going to secede from the Big Ten

756
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Speaker 1: at least for a season, and they got spanked by

757
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. When they got back together and they decided, Okay, Nebraska,

758
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: you want to play football. You start your season going

759
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: to Ohio State. I was told that they did that

760
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: on purpose to punish Nebraska. Now Nebraska is trying to

761
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: play a game they need Big Ten approval, and I

762
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: can't imagine they're gonna get Big Ten approval for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Paulie Dan, we have an update, and you know how

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Speaker 1: much you and I love you. Tea chattanugamox football not

765
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: good news. According to Adam Rittenberg of ESPN, he's a

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Speaker 1: college football writer, the Big Ten is denied Nebraska's attempt

767
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: to replace its canceled game against Wisconsin with FCS team

768
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: UT Chattanooga. Sources tell them Chattanooga had already tested staff

769
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: and players Wednesday and came back negative, but the game

770
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: will not happen. According to ESPN's college football reporter, I

771
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: don't know why Nebraska doesn't go through the Big Ten

772
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: first to save embarrassment, because if I know that you're

773
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Speaker 1: trying to schedule a game through my source, I'm going

774
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: to guess the Big Ten's going, Wait a minute, are

775
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: they doing this behind our back? It's one of those Hey,

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00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, we would rather beg for forgiveness than ask

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: for permission. Why wouldn't you just say to the Big Ten,

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00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: is it okay? If we schedule a game. Yeah, Polly

779
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: and Uti. Chattanooga football had planned on playing a spring schedule,

780
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: but that allowed him to practice, and they were going

781
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: to run up to Lincoln handle some business and come

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00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: back to Chattanooga, and it looks like they're denied. They

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00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: are Also it appears that they were going to be

784
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: paid two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to go to Lincoln,

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00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: plus travel costs, so that would have been a big

786
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: boot for their athletic department. Yeah, why don't you just

787
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: call Why don't you just ask the Big ten? Can

788
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: we do this? My weekend's ruined. Well, I would like

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Speaker 1: to have watched it, but it just I don't know.

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00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why these schools don't go, you know,

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00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: And maybe we should ask for Nebraska. Look, if you

792
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be in the Big ten, then don't

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00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: be in the Big ten, and the Big ten will

794
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: not miss you. But it's not like Tom Osborne's walking

795
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: through that door. I am Hip or Microsier or Johnny

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00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Rogers ask for permission. Yes, Ton, you have to have

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00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: a chat Anooga with the appropriate parties or these are

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Speaker 1: the things that I'm gonna happen. See what you did.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be let down and bummed solid and improving.

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Speaker 1: Ton sold, Yes you will. Thanks for listening to The

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00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

802
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to

803
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station

804
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox sports Radio dot com,

805
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app

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00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on

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Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. He's a two time World Series champ

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00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: with the Reds and two time nationally MVP. He's a

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00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, the greatest catcher ever. Johnny Bench joining

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Speaker 1: us on the program, and Johnny is going to be

811
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Speaker 1: auctioning off his personal collection of Hall of Fame items,

812
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: and he's auctioning off everything but his Hall of Fame ring.

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00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: He'll be using the auction proceeds to help his three

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Speaker 1: young sons with their education. Hunt auctions dot com for

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Speaker 1: more information. Johnny joins us, Now what should I buy?

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Speaker 1: Johnny ooh ooh, okay, I mean I love everything is going.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the Legends ring. Let's see. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got this from where we got there we go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a legends ring, living legend. All right, when I die,

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00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: you can add the Bob Buker bobblehead, the Harry Doyle

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00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: bobble head Harriet, signed by Harry Doyle himself. Now that's

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Speaker 1: off limits, that totally. Are you serious looking? Would you

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Speaker 1: sell any of your stuff right there in front of you? No?

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Speaker 1: I would not, No, I would not. Why now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know? My my We've been trying to plan and

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Speaker 1: everything else. I've got fourteen year old and eleven year

827
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Speaker 1: old sons, sooner or later college is going to be

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Speaker 1: coming up. They're going to be one to be going

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Speaker 1: to certain colleges and certain opportunities that kind of come

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Speaker 1: to them. And you know, I got my oldest son

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Speaker 1: through Boston University at AT in a great expense, and

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Speaker 1: I made two point two million in my entire career,

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Speaker 1: so you know that's that's about two weeks worth of

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Speaker 1: work now in the Major League. And I you know,

835
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Speaker 1: you need the money to do it and you want

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Speaker 1: them to best for it. And so many people tell

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Speaker 1: stories about now. I know Bob Gibson was talking about

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00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: his At one time his family was arguing over we've

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00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: got what? Who got? I want that. No, I want this.

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Speaker 1: And then I've had just friends in mind calling said,

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00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: I can tell you the drama that goes on at

842
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: when somebody tries to divide something up, whether it be antiques,

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00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: whether it be art, whether it be a No, mom

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Speaker 1: wanted me to have that. And then I've had families

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Speaker 1: that are destroyed, they're you know, they're separated. There do it.

846
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: But I want them to have a great opportunity. And

847
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: let's face it, where where are all these you know,

848
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: some of it's been in the museum and binger and

849
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: but a lot of it's in boxes and safe deposit

850
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: boxes and and it's a good opportunity for me. We've

851
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: been exploring it for a while. It's been a thought,

852
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a great opportunity to

853
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: provide them with the future. What it will be the

854
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: toughest item to part with. Oh, well, some of those

855
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I've kept, I mean, you know, I mean like my

856
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Larry Bird basketball you know, signed to meet you know,

857
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: Larry Bird saying birthday same day. Now, I guess, uh,

858
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: probably the MVP trophies, the MVP trophies, and I got

859
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: a soderb oh bat. Do you have any of those

860
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: I have have the only bat I believe, I'm pretty

861
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: sure in existence signed by the All Century team that

862
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: is in my possession. So you know, it's it's the rings,

863
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: it's the Hall of Fame plaques and stuff kept my

864
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: Thurman months an award. I kept my Hutch award I

865
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: wanted because you know, they mean mean a lot and

866
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put them in there, and there's

867
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff in there. But uh, you know,

868
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: how do you how do you always pick? But the

869
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: boys decision was they they didn't argue over the rings.

870
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: They weren't really worried worried about it. And so this

871
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: is a better opportunity for me, and and it seems

872
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: like in a down year that it might not be

873
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: the best time. But you know, auctions have done well

874
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: and people are interested. I saw the Vin Scully auction.

875
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if you did. Yeah, Scully auction was

876
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: was huge and a lot of people out there would

877
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: like to have something. And I had French called said

878
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: they're bidding on stuff that I never even thought, you know,

879
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: I would even consider that. So how much is a

880
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: gold glove gonna cost me? Pips on the year strangely enough,

881
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: the year, I guess coincides with that. If I want

882
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: an MVP or I was Rookie of the Year or

883
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: something somebody. That's what they're saying. It's probably gonna cross

884
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: you anywhere from twenty five to fifty, which is you know,

885
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days work. That is that

886
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: is well, now that the peacock is come along, Yes,

887
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, there's also the painting by leroy Neeman. Yes,

888
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: famous leroy Neeman painting there. I think there's a reserve

889
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: on that. And you have quite a collection of leroy Nemans.

890
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: And what I hear I have a I have a

891
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: couple of them in here. Yeah, absolutely, but they're nudes

892
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: of me. Hey, how about an even great? I'll give

893
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: you a nude leroy Neeman for the leroy Neeman of you.

894
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: All right, it's fair. I don't need a nude. No, no,

895
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: it's me. It's it's me nude by leroy Neiman without

896
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: the Danet's right. No, no they're not. But if I

897
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: walk into your house, how long does it take before

898
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: I realize what you do for a living? Uh? This

899
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: is the office that my son put together. Okay, there's

900
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: a lot of suffer. So I mean, you know, I

901
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff with Hope for the warriors.

902
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: I do uh, some charity work obviously. Here's a here's

903
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: a cool thing. Bob Hope. Uh, when I went with

904
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: him and then the Airborne. This is pretty cool. This

905
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: is a roast, the Johnny Bench roast. Bob Hope was

906
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: the MC. That's all we could get that day. Uh,

907
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: the All Century team. How about this one? Now, this

908
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: is really cool. My assistant got this sign for me.

909
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: I hope it's not a reflection, but this is me

910
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: on the steps of Cooperstown. Right outside the back, they're

911
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: all of the Hall of Famers and a tendanus and

912
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: my assistant got them all to sign it. How many

913
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers you got there? I'm going to say

914
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: forty thirty five to forty Who was the best storyteller

915
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: when you guys got together at the Hall of Fame?

916
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: You know? Strangely enough, Uh, I love to listen to

917
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: George Brett. George he's one of my favorite people. Like

918
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite people. George is a stud

919
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: man and he always laughs when he tells the story.

920
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: But he remembers that he's so did you know him?

921
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's but it's so vivid, you know,

922
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: and everything's still and where they did it, and you know,

923
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: you know, different people see things in different ways. They

924
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: never you see this, and they see it differently and

925
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: they pull it out and they stretch it out and

926
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: everything else. I mean, there was nothing like doing that. Now.

927
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I love this, you know, strangely enough, I don't know

928
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: if it's strange. Gay Lord Perry sits in the lobby

929
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: of the Osaga Hotel and I sit there and listen

930
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: to the stories and just roar because he you know,

931
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: the things that he does and in the positions and

932
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: everything else. It's it's really cool, you know, and fun.

933
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Fun is the new guys, you know, Pedro Martinez and

934
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: the big hurt Man. There. There's some fun stuff and

935
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a lot of fun coming up after

936
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: the past. But as past, did you care if a

937
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: pitcher was loading up a pitch like Gaylor Perry threw

938
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: a spit ball? You know, Nolan Ryan is alleged to

939
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: have cut the ball or you know, somebody would doctor

940
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: the ball. What did you care if that if a

941
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: pitcher was doing that, well, I would just ser So

942
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: if I knew he had it loaded, I would look

943
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: for it, and then I could and then if I

944
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: waited for the drop to hit it. But I don't

945
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: know if you el ever told you a story about

946
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: Jim Maloney was decided he was going to load him up.

947
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: He said, John, we're gonna load him up. I think

948
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna load them up, because this is when Phil

949
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Reagan and and and uh well and the Gaylord was,

950
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, loading him up. He's eyes. He said, I

951
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: think we better have a sign. I said, to throw

952
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: it off, catching well, two strikes, two outs for in

953
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: the first end, and he throws one. I don't touch it,

954
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: hits me right on top of the toe. Second and

955
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: he two outs, two strikes. He throws it again, hits

956
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 1: me on top of the shin guard and bounces back

957
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: to him. And I walked out, and I said, we're

958
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a say. I never took my

959
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: eyes off of him again. Ever, how do you load

960
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: it today up? Well, it's just a little vassline behind

961
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: the ear, Okay. You know Gaylord used to do when

962
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: they told him he couldn't do it anymore, he would

963
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: take his thumb on his brow up here, and so

964
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: he never looked at all. He didn't touch his fingers.

965
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: He just loaded her. And then when he put it

966
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: back down, he just put his fingers on it right here.

967
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: So I never took my eyes off it. We're in

968
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: Forbesfield and somebody in the dugout, the manager hollered at me.

969
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: I looked in the dugout, and then I thought, oh,

970
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: did he load? Did he give me the same? He

971
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 1: threw this thing. It started here and it dropped so

972
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: hard I barely caught leather on it right there, hit

973
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: me in the cup, broken in seven places. That was

974
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: the last time, needless to say that he ever loaded

975
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: it up. So he's Johnny Bench. You can check out

976
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: all the auction items from his Hall of Fame career

977
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: it You can see everything on display at hunt Auctions

978
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: dot com for information. I did think about you the

979
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: other night when I'm watching the World Series and when

980
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Cash goes out to take out Blake Snell, and

981
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 1: I wondered what role the catcher can play there? Now

982
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: you were established, you were one of the better players,

983
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: best players in the game, can you do you think

984
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: the catcher could have played a role to say, look,

985
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: he's still got bite, he's got velocity. These guys aren't

986
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: catching up to anything because he went out with the

987
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: predetermined all right, he gave up a hit. Mookie's up,

988
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking you out like there was no wiggle room there. Yeah,

989
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: that was the matchup, and that was hardest thing to describe,

990
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: but it was. It was Mookie. I don't any other

991
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: player any other matter. I don't think he takes him out.

992
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: I think the analytics are so big a part of

993
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: this game right now that that's a commitment to do it.

994
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: But it has to be a thing. And some managers

995
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: like Sparky, never wanted the pitcher to lose a game.

996
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: They never wanted him to be the losing pitcher if

997
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: he pitched that well. I had such a report was

998
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Sparky that I would look over him the dugout and

999
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 1: he knew when I looked at him that he needed

1000
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: to get somebody warmed up. I would come in off

1001
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: the field and said, get somebody up, and we could

1002
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: do that. I think there's a the analytics are there,

1003
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: and it buried. It's buried in the game now, it's

1004
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: it's embedded, and I think it's going to do it.

1005
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: You know, mister Cash is gonna, you know, listen to

1006
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: it like every manager and everybody's going to second guess.

1007
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: And but it was Mookie. I mean, let's face it.

1008
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean, any other batter probably in baseball at this time,

1009
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't have taken him out. But it was

1010
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: a situation where everything dictated. My dictation would have been

1011
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: had if I were catching, is that I will pitch

1012
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: around Mookie because they've gotten him out, and they struck

1013
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: him out a couple of times, and they got him

1014
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: to the ground balls and a a couple of things. I

1015
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: would have pitched around him and hope that Mookie being

1016
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: anxious in that situation. Now he's got a great eye,

1017
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: but you try to get them to chase a pitch

1018
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: that they normally wouldn't go after. And I thought it

1019
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: was a tough decision. Snell didn't want to come out.

1020
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he had him. He was at where where

1021
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to be. And that was a decision that

1022
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: sometime the organization makes by making analytics the most important

1023
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: thing before I let you go. I know, it's been

1024
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: a tough couple of weeks. He lost Joe Morgan and uh,

1025
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, I I'm trying to capture Joe Morgan to

1026
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: let you know, a new generation know just how special

1027
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: he was because he did everything and you don't see

1028
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: a guy that size who is you know, power hitter.

1029
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: He was a Gold Glove winner, two time MVP, the

1030
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: spark for that team. And if you do, you have

1031
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: a favorite story of Joe. The thing about Joe was

1032
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: his favorite favorite player was Nelly Fox. So he's five

1033
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: foot seven, five foot seven and and Nelly became a

1034
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: mentor of his. Actually when he went to Houston and Joe,

1035
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: how about this that four years, four seasons, Joe Morgan

1036
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: had fifty or more extra base hits, fifty stolen bases,

1037
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: and a hundred base on balls four seasons in the

1038
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: history of baseball, the history of baseball no one has

1039
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: ever done at one season. You know, uh, wow. He

1040
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: he was the guy, the guy. And if an enfielder ever,

1041
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: no infielder is supposed to talk to the picture nothing,

1042
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: They weren't. They didn't know what to say, didn't know

1043
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: what to do. But if Joe Morgan came in from

1044
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: second base to talk to the picture, I stayed behind

1045
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: the play. Wow, Because I mean, he we seem to

1046
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: be on the same vibe. I mean, are we I

1047
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: think sometimes we were just you know, brothers at one

1048
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: time in our lives, in spiritual and mental. And he

1049
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: was he knew the game. He had said, I knew

1050
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: the game and it was the best player I ever saw.

1051
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, how can you be a

1052
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: gold glove steel bases, hit home runs? If there were

1053
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: games on the line. Take the Red Sox in nineteen

1054
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: seventy five, who do you want it to play? Joe Morgan?

1055
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Speaker 1: Who got the base hit? Joe Morgan and I, as

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Speaker 1: I told his wife, you know, I said, Tracey, I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we are so fortunate to have had him

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Speaker 1: in our lives. You know, some people never get experienced

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Speaker 1: the greatness and the friendship and the love that people

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Speaker 1: can have for each other. So yeah, it's been tough.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You know, Joe, Tom and all the others. Now,

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Speaker 1: Kayline was such a dear man. I mean, so I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. I mean, give me an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 1: about him. Man, he was. He was the heart and

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Speaker 1: Zoe and I try to tell people, you know, Bob Gibson,

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Speaker 1: I was nervous and I was just watching a game

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Speaker 1: when he would be on the mount. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: what it was like to face Gibson al Kaylene. Is

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Speaker 1: he one of the true gentlemen in life, not in

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Speaker 1: just baseball. I mean we'd lost, you know, some great

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Speaker 1: great people, not just great players. Yeah, Lou Brock I

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Speaker 1: came into I came into Saint Louis. He had told

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Speaker 1: her thirty two stolen bases in a road. And we

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Speaker 1: have Jack Fisher pitching him. We call him fat and

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Speaker 1: Jack Fisher because he had a belly and he rested

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Speaker 1: his glove on him. He'd rested his glove right here,

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Speaker 1: and he was pretty quick then play well, Lou stole

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Speaker 1: took off the steel and I threw it down and

1079
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Speaker 1: Lou hadn't got to the cutout. He hadn't even started sly,

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Speaker 1: it didn't got to the dirt. And you know, after

1081
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Speaker 1: the game, I'm sitting in my locker and one of

1082
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Speaker 1: those shopping carts pull up in front of my locker,

1083
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Speaker 1: and well that's where we put our dirty and sweats

1084
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Speaker 1: and everything else. And one rule was you never fratenized.

1085
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: It cost us fifty dollars if we talked to another player.

1086
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Speaker 1: Dave Bristol was just so adamant about you not frattonizing. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's cards still sitting there, and I look up. It's

1088
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Speaker 1: lou Brock. He's in uniform in our locker room and

1089
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Speaker 1: I'm next to the managers office. He looked down at

1090
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Speaker 1: me and he said, next, nime, kid, make it look close.

1091
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Speaker 1: It scrolled on out, scrolled on out like it was

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Speaker 1: just a normal routine thing. That's great. Oh so the

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Speaker 1: auction Hunt auctions dot com all the great stuff that

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Speaker 1: Johnny has available for everybody. And that'll be November fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: November fourteenth at Hunt auctions dot com. Great to see you,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's gonna be live in Loisville, Kentucky, at

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Speaker 1: the at the Louisville Slugger Museum of where I'm a

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Speaker 1: leg living legend, of course you are. Yeah, just don't die,

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Speaker 1: because then you're no longer a living legend. I hadn't

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Speaker 1: thought of that, although I am standing over here with

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Speaker 1: May's co Fax and Aaron is the living legends, so

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good. How often did you face co Fax? Never?

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Speaker 1: He retired in sixty six, And if your first year

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Speaker 1: was sixty eight, I came up the end of sixty seven,

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Speaker 1: sixty seven was ninth. I'm lucky for you didn't have

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Speaker 1: to face go Fax. Oh I owned him. You would have, right,

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Speaker 1: you would have. I'm sure. Thanks, Thank you, Budd. That's

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Speaker 1: Johnny Bench, Hall of Famer. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

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