1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're 3 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: going to talk about a lawsuit involving a Hawaii five 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: oh actor's untimely death, a morning show host that fell 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: flat on her face on live TV, a man who 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: was looking for his brother in the jaws of a crocodile, 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: kids forced to eat cat poop, and what is beauty 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: parlor syndrome? All that and more on today's episode, Let's 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: get started with this Hawaii five zero actor. 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: So last year, actor and former sumo wrestler Taylor Touley 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Wiley suddenly died at fifty six years old, and now 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: his family is filing a lawsuit claiming he suffered fatal 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: injuries after he he was dropped in a wheelchair by 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: a Las Vegas medical transport company. This is a really 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: interesting thing to talk about because this guy, even though 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: he was very young, he had a very different body, 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: which was that he was very morbidly obese, and he 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: weighed over four hundred pounds. 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: And to think about a person that weighs that much 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: that also has a wheelchair. So the wheelchair has to 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: be a bariatric wheelchair, which will be larger, and depending 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: on if it was an electric scooter type of wheelchair 23 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: versus a regular wheelchair, would depend on the weight, but 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: that could put a lot of extra weight on it too. 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: And I guess the question would be, and possibly why 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: this lawsuit is legitimate, is that what was the weight 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: capacity of this particular mechanism that was lifting him. 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happened was that back in October of 29 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, he was getting into this transport van 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: and they're saying that the wheelchair ramp failed which caused 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: him to fall and hit his head on the pavement. 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: So like you're saying, did that fail because it was 33 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: over the weight capacity? Was the person loading him in 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: not trained to know that? Or was there just a 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: pure malfunction? 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that's I want to keep 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: my eye on this case because I think that that's 38 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: going to be a big part of the discussion that 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: he just was an atypical person. It's not you know, 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: if you have a transport company that's doing this all 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: the time, most people don't fit into this range. And 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: this was an unusual circumstance. Clearly wasn't handled correctly. There's 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: no reason that a person should ever fall out of 44 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: a wheelchair and have to hit their head on the 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: ground and die as a result of blunt trauma. 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 3: Like that. 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested too, because he died nine months after the 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: incident happened, and initially I saw that he had died 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: from natural causes. So I'm like, how did they connect 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: this particular event with his death? 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: Well, because it's the same as act thing with homicide too, right. 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: It's like if you if you stab someone and they 53 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: survive and they end up having partial paralysis, let's say, 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: and they live another twenty years and they die as 55 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: a result of that paralysis, they could still charge the 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: person that stabbed them with homicide because they died as 57 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: a result of the injury. So they're able to pinpoint 58 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: this and say he was one hundred percent fine, and 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: maybe you could give or take the obesity factoring into this, 60 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: but he was mentally fine. 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: He was young. 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: It was fifty six years old, a young guy. He 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: had this accident. Ever since then everything went downhill. He 64 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: neurologically couldn't take care of himself. What I don't I 65 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: don't really know what happened to him after he hit 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: his head. I mean, he could have he could have 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: been a borderline comatose and could The range is so 68 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: great depending on what happened. But really if they were 69 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: able to pinpoint that event that led to because like 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: let's say he's in the hospital for a brain injury 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: and he's put on a ventilator, and then he gets 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: an infection, and then he has complications from the infection. 73 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Like all of that stuff happened because he hit his head. 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: That wouldn't happened otherwise. Okay, So that's why they're able 75 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: to say that he died as a result of that injury. 76 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I mean, it just feel bad for the 77 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: family they have to go through this. And then they 78 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: have the lawsuit. So they're seeking a jury trial and 79 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: damages and excess of fifty thousand dollars for the estates. 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: So you know how the court system works, it's going 81 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: to probably be going on for another couple of years before. 82 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: We get not that much money. It's really not fifty thousand. 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: I mean, like it probably covers his medical lithes, especially 84 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: standing from that eg. Yeah, especially, like I mean I 85 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: don't think that that's that's that bad, honestly. 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: No, I mean my problem Like, look at the Cardi 87 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: b trial for example, that person was claiming that she 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: assaulted them and then wanted twenty four million dollars. I know. 89 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: That's why I think. 90 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: And really, regardless of exactly what went down, like he 91 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: was in a wheelchair and he fell out and hit 92 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: his head, that shouldn't have happened no matter what, it 93 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: was definitely not his fault. No, absolutely, so I think 94 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: that I think that that's I think that's reasonable. 95 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: Fox five anchor Rosanna Scotta was doing an exercise segment 97 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: on air, and after this man helped her do several 98 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: pull ups on this workout machine, she face planted onto 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: the ground on live television. 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: Can I just could we just all agree that morning 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: shows are are just like the worst things ever. 102 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: This is what I was gonna say, Like cringey is 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: a good word to describe it. They're just cringey. 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: This is exactly what I was gonna say. Because they 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: made a joke with the guy, I hope you have 106 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: good insurance, and I'm like, no, if I was hear, 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I'd suing the network for making me do this dumb 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: shit every day. 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: It's let's just think about this as for a second. 110 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: She's sixty seven years old, Okay, so she's a senior citizen. 111 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: She's wearing a suit and high heels, and they thought 112 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: it was a good idea for her to get up 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: and go with this trainer and do pull ups on 114 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: this freaking machine. She couldn't reach it. She stands up 115 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: to the machine and she can't reach the little hook 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: she has to put her hands in and this guy 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: and certainly can't pull herself up because like who could 118 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: do a pull up? They're freaking hard, right, Yeah, They're 119 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: like the hardest things in the world to do. And 120 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: same with pushups and everything like that. You feel like 121 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: you're gonna drop that when you're doing it. So she's 122 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: already like over exerting her upper body strength just trying 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: to attempt to do this, which she can't do. This 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: guy goes below her feet and like grabs her by 125 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: the bottom of her legs and is helping her pull 126 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: herself up. But still that's it's hard when you've never 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: done it before, you can't do it. And then he's 128 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: like this big man is squeezing her legs and then 129 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: like puts her down and she steps forward and kind 130 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: of trips over the machinery, and I'm just like, what 131 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: is the point of this? 132 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: Well, it's stupid because it's what is the point? And 133 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: this is also not the only time she's fallen on television. 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: They said in October twenty fourteen, she was doing a 135 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: segment a Rockefeller Center in the ice skating rink and 136 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: she also fell and that ended up with her breaking 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: her wrists, fracturing an elbow, and needing to undergo surgery. 138 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: They just put them in these dumb ass positions. 139 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Why I just refuse to believe when they do user 140 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: testing that these stupid segments test so well that they 141 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: have to continue doing them. Like the point of that 142 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: was to say, like, you should exercise. I don't know, 143 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Like who are you exactly talking to, because I know 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: that some of you listening probably go to the gym 145 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: and do pull ups, but like the majority of you 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: do not and would never even tempt it because it's 147 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: it's impossible. So like she's she's an old lady, Like, 148 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: what what do you what's the exercise here? 149 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. 150 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand it either. At every time, it makes that. 151 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Guy look like a douchebag too, Like, well, he's trying 152 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: to go on there to promote his business, and I'm like, 153 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: that makes you look terrible. 154 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: It's not only that, it's just you know, and I 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: think this is where the morning show, that Apple TV 156 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: show really does a bad job, because they really could 157 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: focus on the bullshit like that, but instead, So there's. 158 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: A show that that mimic. 159 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Is it like a comedy, No, it's it started as like, 160 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: all right, so you know, newsroom drama is my favorite thing. Ever, 161 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: so when I see Apple has this show coming out, 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm so excited as Jennifer and Its and Witherspoon, Steve 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Carell in it. And the very first episode was mimicking 164 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: the day that Matt Lower got fired and the expose 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: on him being a sexual predator. Right, but it's serious, 166 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: it's a serious show, but they just taking it too far. 167 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: It's it's basically on the and just like that level 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: of you just took it too far. But I think 169 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: part of the show they should make fun of the 170 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: fact that they do that stuff, but they don't, and 171 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: it would be really successful because everybody thinks these dumb 172 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: skits they do that would. 173 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: That would be a good show actually, but like you know, 174 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: more style, like you know, like Best in Show. That's 175 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: such a good movie, like that, that kind of comedy, 176 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, the one with the dog, you know what 177 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, right, Yes, Christopher guests. Yet like if 178 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: it was done in that style, it would be genius 179 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: because there's so much material because they do the dumbest 180 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: shit with their Halloween costumes into this and that They're 181 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: always just doing the most outrageous stuff and I look 182 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: at that and I'm just kind of like, this is 183 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: I just don't even understand this. 184 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: I just I don't understand it. 185 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: And but think of think of some of these people 186 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: that are actually wonderful journalists and then you have to 187 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: go from reporting world news to doing pull ups on air. 188 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like watered down skits are real neat. 189 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: It's borderline degrading. 190 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm not for it. Okay. 191 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: This guy and his brother were hanging out by a 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: river in Malaysia when suddenly one of them was attacked 193 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: by a crocodile. So the other brother heard him screaming, 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: ran over for help, and in an attempt to save him, 195 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: he opened the crocodile's jaw looking for him because they 196 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: think he thought he was eaten by the animal, and 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: then the brothers just nowhere to be found. 198 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. Typically the crocodile will. 199 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: What it does with its with its prey anyway, is 200 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: exactly that, it'll grab it with its teeth, but it 201 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: pulls it under the water and drowns it. That's what 202 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: I shakes it about and does the death roll thing 203 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: while while not a person, but their prey is underwater 204 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: and that gets them to stop moving so they could 205 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: eat it. 206 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was I think at that point. 207 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: Obviously the brother was just in the water somewhere because 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: it would have been too quick for the crocodile to 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: eat him, right, Yeah. 210 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: I would, I would think so if it was just 211 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: all that quick, and they'll probably they haven't found his 212 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: body yet. They probably will find his body or at 213 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: least parts of his body at some point, maybe because 214 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: I guess, I mean the brother left and got out 215 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: of the water at some point and the body was 216 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: still floating there, and there's more than one crocodile in 217 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: the water, so it's a possibility that a bunch of them. 218 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Maybe he wasn't eating right away, but he sank to 219 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: the bottom of wherever they were, and then you know. 220 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: He's really lucky nothing happened to him. Can you imagine 221 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: going up to a crocodile and trying to pry open 222 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: their mouth. He's lucky he didn't get attacked. 223 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: I actually wrote a story about a similar thing that 224 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: happened in the grocer room this week, actually about a 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: guy who would They were in a fishing boat in 226 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: a similar situation, and this crocodile tried It was the 227 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: same thing, like he tried to grab this guy and 228 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: pull him into the water, and luckily the crocodile only 229 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: grabbed the guy by the scalp, which it took off 230 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: his scalp. It just evolvest the entire scalp, Jesus, which 231 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: looks terrible, and I'm sure it's a terrible thing to 232 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: go through to have to try to uh, either fix 233 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: that wound or to get skin grafts to cover that wound. 234 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: But there's not any major blood vessels there, and if 235 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: there's no damage to the skull, it looks like a 236 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: very gruesome injury. But it's it's really like not that 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: bad or that life threatening. But imagine the other person 238 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: that was with him seeing the guy's skull like completely 239 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: ripped off of his his or his scalp ripped off 240 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: of his skull, like it would be really disturbing, to 241 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: say the least, but that's that's what they do. They 242 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: kind to creep and then they jump out and attack 243 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: you and pull you in the water. And alligators too. 244 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: It's remember that kid that died at Disney World. Yeah, 245 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: I mean that was horrible. That was the first thing 246 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: I thought about. Yeah, that was a similar that was 247 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: a similar thing that happened. 248 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: But that's what happened. 249 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: The alligator pulled the kid into the water and then 250 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: the kid ended up. His cause of death was from drowning. Also, 251 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean it depends where they grab you, because if 252 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: an alligator or crocodile grabs you can grab you by 253 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: the neck and puncture you, then you know you could 254 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: you could have issues there too, especially from your neck. 255 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room Guys. 256 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Like we said, our high profile death disseection this week 257 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 2: is on Halloween, especially focusing on the Halloween in appropriate decorations, 258 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: inappropriate costumes and not like I'm not talking about just 259 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: like slutty costumes. What did they say in mean girls 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: dressed like a dressed like a slutte Right now, I'm 261 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: not talking about that. I'm talking about ones that you're 262 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: just kind of like, Okay, you're you're like pushing a 263 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: little bit too far here, So check that out, and 264 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: we're just gonna we just talk about like how have 265 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: we gotten here? 266 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: And where are we going? 267 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Because like what Halloween was for me as a kid 268 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: even forty years ago is significantly different. Now, what's it 269 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: going to be in another forty years from now? And 270 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: are we headed in the right direction because of all 271 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: the violence in society? And then we also have a 272 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: Forensic Friday that was last week that was really good. 273 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: That is titled psychology or psycho So that's really good. 274 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: So check that out. 275 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Head over into the gross room dot com now to 276 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: sign up. 277 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: Oh this, I'm like, what's dow? Oh this person? 278 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? A woman running for city council in Atlanta has 279 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: been arrested after she allegedly beat her three foster children 280 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: with a skillet and forced them to eat cat litter 281 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: riddled with poop. That's what is wrong with people? 282 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 283 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: Really, the worst part about this. This is this isn't 284 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: Cheryl's neck of the woods. 285 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: By the way. The worst part about this is that 286 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: look at did you look at the amount of bond 287 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: that she got. 288 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing like nothing. 289 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: What was it? 290 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: Fifteen fifteen thousand dollars, which I believe you have to 291 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: put up half of that, so that that's cool. 292 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and there's you know, it doesn't end there. 293 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: So she was fostering three children in age thirteen to 294 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: seventeen for over a decade, and she's accused of hitting 295 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: them with a wooden grill, scraper, a plastic bet a skillet, 296 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: mentally abusing them, making the children quote sleep on a 297 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: basement floor without a bed, and stay in a closet 298 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: without lighter windows with the outside secure to prevent escape. 299 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: But luckily they were able to get out. And all 300 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: this abuse they've been going through all this. 301 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: Time, it's really interesting to me that we have stories, 302 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: I feel like often of people who are fostering children 303 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: that don't treat them nice. 304 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: It is you know, I've been thinking about this a 305 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: lot because we had those other stories in the past too, 306 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: and I think there is you know, there's a pocket 307 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: of people that want to be really good people and 308 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: do the right thing and try to give these kids 309 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: a good home. And then there's a pocket of people 310 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: that see the financial advantages behind it and don't care 311 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: about the kids at all and end up in situations 312 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: like this because why would you possibly want to take 313 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: kids in if you have abusive tendencies like this? 314 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: Well I don't really know one hundred percent the psychology 315 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: of abuse, but you would think if you're going to 316 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: hit a child and mistreat them like that, that you 317 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: don't like children, well. 318 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Exactly, So that's why it's bizarre to me. But then 319 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's a huge financial component behind being a 320 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: foster parent. So if you're getting a nice payday, yeah, 321 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. 322 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: I just don't know. I don't know a way around that, 323 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: because the financial component is. 324 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: Can be used as an incentive, and I don't think 325 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: that that's necessarily negative, but it might incentivize someone that 326 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: does have a good home to be like, you know, 327 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: we really could use the extra money and we could 328 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: do this and it you know, it might the incentive 329 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: might not always be negative. It's just more to try 330 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: to recruit people that maybe wouldn't have done it before. 331 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: But are in need of money, and obviously children cost money, 332 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: so you're doing if you're doing something like that, really 333 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: you really should be able to get some compensation if 334 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: you're trying to help the state out in that situation, 335 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 2: because you know, kids eat, they eat a lot, they 336 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: have launched, they have this activity, they want to go 337 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: to the mall, this and that. I mean, if if 338 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: a person really wants to do it and just as 339 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: financially stable, that would be the nicest That would be 340 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: the nicest thing if they did it on a purely 341 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: volunteer basis, because then you would really get the genuine 342 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: people that want to do it out of the kindness 343 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: of their heart. But that's not practical with the amount 344 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: of children that are in the foster system and they're 345 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: just trying to like push them through and like unfortunately. 346 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: And then this lady's running for city council, Like you 347 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: don't think something like this is gonna come out. It's 348 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: like these idiots that go on housewives and they're doing 349 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: all this illegal stuff. 350 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: Like somebody's gonna catch on. 351 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: You're on television boasting about like use Teresa Guida as 352 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: for example, she's on television saying how she paid like 353 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars in cash for all her furniture. 354 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: You don't think someone's watching that saying that's not normal 355 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: and looking into it. 356 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: There's a guy that's running for some kind of higher 357 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: office in Virginia right now that just wrote text messages 358 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: about killing someone that is one of his opponent opponents 359 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: and like her child, not him doing it, but saying 360 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: that her that the guy that they deserve to die 361 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: and get shot or something like that. 362 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: I don't know, but like you're idiots. 363 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: But but I the whole time I was hearing about 364 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: that story, I'm just like, why would you put that 365 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: in writing if you thought that way if you're running 366 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: for office especially, I think that that was what we 367 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: were talking about the Kennedy's last episode, Like that dad, 368 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: Joe Kennedy, the dad he had like bred those children 369 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: to be, to to be in a certain way that 370 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: they wouldn't have any of these kinds. Not that it worked, 371 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I guess you would say, but when you're running for 372 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: office and things like that, you have to make sure 373 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: that you don't have skeletons in your closet like that. 374 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: Because the other clans, they were just really good at 375 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: covering them up. 376 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: The other team. 377 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the other teams just gonna they'll pay thousands 378 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: of dollars to get someone to give a text message 379 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: like that. Like they're always looking for something that's going 380 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: to come out, especially right around this time of year, 381 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: right before elections are gonna happen, right, So why like, 382 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: why would you do anything like that? It just makes 383 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 2: me question, not even as I mean, what you said 384 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: is messed up, but not even as much as that. 385 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: It's just like, what is your judgment that you're doing 386 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: this right now? 387 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a group of people that think 388 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: that FBI are monitoring every single text you send, and 389 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: they're very overly cautious, and then there's another group of 390 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: people that are just like, that doesn't happen. I'll never 391 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: get caught with anything I say. And it's just not true, 392 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: because if you do something that you know, warrants that 393 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: they could go through your phone to look for incriminating evidence, 394 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: they're going to find everything. It doesn't mean if you if. 395 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: You delete it, that's not even what happened going away, 396 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: But that's not even what happened in this case. I 397 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: don't know exactly because I don't really like follow it 398 00:20:59,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: that much. 399 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly. 400 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: How the text messages came to be because they're they're 401 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 2: screenshots of text messages, but I'm assuming that they the 402 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: one of the people involved was had something to do 403 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: with it, right, because otherwise, how do you you. 404 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: Know, Let's say you got a text like that and 405 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: you were like, well, what if these people end up dead? 406 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: And I knew it beforehand. Some people have are too guilty. 407 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: I absolutely I would be like that because I'm sorry, 408 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: but when you're in a normal functioning friendship, relationship, anything, 409 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: and someone sends you a text message like that, you 410 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: should be like, this is fucking weird. 411 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: This is not like that's that's not something. It wasn't 412 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: written like a joke. 413 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: We talked about this with the Corey Richand's case. She's 414 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: actually her trials coming up in a couple months. So 415 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: remember we were making the point that you know, everybody 416 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: in your life has been like, oh, I'm I kill 417 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: my husband for doing. 418 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: This, right, I said it to him this morning. 419 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because when I made when I went to 420 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: drive forty minutes for no reason, they're back to the 421 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: car dealership. 422 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: But I didn't actually I said to him, I swear 423 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: to God, I'm gonna kill you. And then he wrote 424 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: and said sorry, I didn't mean you make you waste 425 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: your time, and I wrote back, You're never a waste 426 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: of my time, my love. That's and that's it, Like 427 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: I because that's normal. If I texted you and was 428 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: just like. 429 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a bullet in this dude's head tonight, 430 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: because well, I've said enough. This is what I'm saying. 431 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: Like everybody at some point has been like I'm gonna 432 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: kill so and so, and it's it doesn't mean you're 433 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: actually gonna murder them. It's just like a figure of speech. 434 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: But in that particular case, he had said to his friend, 435 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I think my wife's trying to poison me. And that's 436 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: a little too specific that I feel like somebody needs 437 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: to say something. 438 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's how it is. 439 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: So because I think, like, if you're in the moment 440 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: and I really just don't like hate anybody to that 441 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: level that I sit there and think about that, it's 442 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: just weird to me. But like, if you're in the 443 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: moment and it's making you that angry, you have to 444 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: realize that the person on the other side of it 445 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: is like normal minded and it's just like wow, like 446 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: what's happening right now? And you're right because let's say, 447 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: for example, any of those people that that person was 448 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: talking about died, the first thing they're going to do 449 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: is be check their phones and stuff and say like, 450 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: were you plotting this? 451 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: Did you tell anybody? 452 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: And you don't want to be in trouble for that either, 453 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 2: even if it's your best friend, Like there's a certain 454 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: line that gets crossed and you're just like, yeah, no, you. 455 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Would think all we know about death investigation right now 456 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: that people would be the best criminals they could possibly be. 457 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: But if anything, they're getting so much dumber over time. 458 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: They're getting worse, right, Yeah, it's it's really it's really amazing. 459 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of what I was just telling, 460 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: just like Amage, Oh I was telling. I was telling 461 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: lucea this yesterday. So I PU, I'm pulling out of 462 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: my driveway. You know, I always am bitching about my 463 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: car because it has way too many bills and bells 464 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: and whistles. I'm pulling out of my driveway. 465 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: And the thing is going nuts and I'm like, so 466 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: I pull back and she goes, Wow, that's really cool 467 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 4: because there's a camera, and she's like, well, that's really cool, 468 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: like you could see exactly where you're going. 469 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: It seems like it's pretty easy to drive. And I 470 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: just said, no, Lucia, it actually was way easier to 471 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: drive because I just knew how to use my mirrors 472 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: and pull out of a driveway. And that is distracting 473 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: as hell, and it makes me feel like I'm going 474 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: to crash because all of the noise and shit when 475 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 2: I know how to drive is distracting. And then I 476 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: was telling her like, in fact, they do all of 477 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: these things now with the sensors and this and that 478 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: so you don't crash. And I bet you that crashes 479 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: are up more than they were before that stuff existed. 480 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: One hundred it's not improving anything at all. So that's 481 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: what they say. 482 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: Remember we had that story about Tesla drivers that were 483 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: getting more accidents, and it wasn't necessarily about the car 484 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: being defective. It was just that it's so distracting on 485 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: the inside. The drivers aren't paying attention. 486 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: Yes, it has to be. 487 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: They have a freaking laptop and screen and I look 488 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: over at a Tesla and I'm like, why do you 489 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: need a literal laptop screen? 490 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: It's so big, Like, what is that? What is it for? 491 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 492 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: And anytime I drive with Ddie, I'm just like, I 493 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: could never as a passenger. I'm so distracted that I 494 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: could never drive. 495 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: In the dark though it's very bright and distracting, It's 496 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: it's just weird. And you just are like, you keep 497 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: implementing all this technology that costs all this money and 498 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't do shit totally. I guarantee you that I'll 499 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: hit something because of that, because it makes me so rattled. 500 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 2: And I just told Gabe, I want to go around 501 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: my car with black pieces of duct tape and put 502 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: it over every sensor, I say, and maybe that will 503 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: make it stop. 504 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't turn them off? 505 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: No, no, trust me. 506 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Like I can't even turn your heated teat I can't. 507 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: I can't press six. But I can't figure out anything 508 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: on that stupid car. I just wish there was something 509 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: I could unhook all of it. I want to go 510 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: in and just that the next time I get a car, 511 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: I want to go in and be like I want 512 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: a radio and air conditioning and heat and that's it. 513 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: That's it. And they hated seat, that heatnt seat. But 514 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: the button needs to be easy to push. 515 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: You know what I hate in my car is it 516 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: has that like it turns off when you stop at 517 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: a like everyone hates that, and you can't just turn 518 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: it off. You have to hit the button every time 519 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: you get in the car. 520 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: Well, and my. 521 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: Dad is is a you know whatever, fifty year diesel mechanic, 522 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: and he's just like it. I guarantee you that it's 523 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: using more gas to restart it than you're saving on 524 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: the emissions, like, which I believe to be true. And 525 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: so Louis swears that his car doesn't have it. 526 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: No, he had a custom built, so he just got 527 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: it built without it. 528 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: But but I don't know because I feel like that 529 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: they I guess the walls are different and wherever in 530 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: the state, in Pennsylvania or whatever. 531 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I feel like he got by 532 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: some he didn't like. 533 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: I think you're thinking when you go and you want 534 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: certain custom things. He has a total custom build. It's 535 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: not he picked certain features. It's one hundred percent of 536 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: custom build. 537 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's that's interesting. Then maybe I'll try that next 538 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: time I get a car. 539 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but. 540 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 2: Then you gotta pay like way more for it, just 541 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: like I want. Like I always think about that because 542 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: I do. I like certain parts of my car. But 543 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder if I could get the dashboard 544 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: of like fifteen years ago. 545 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Car is the worst it is? Right, yes, all right, 546 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with a new potential danger at the 547 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: hair salon. 548 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: I guess it's not new. 549 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: It's been around, but this study's coming in. 550 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: It has been around, but it's something I never really 551 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: thought about and I've never heard of until today. This 552 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: beauty parlor syndrome. It's like BPSS American Journal of Emergency 553 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: Menificent has identified fifty four cases of this over forty 554 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: eight years, and forty two of them happened in hair salons, 555 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: eight of them happened in dental offices, and the other 556 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: ones happened somewhere else. They didn't say where. But it's 557 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: due to like a hyper extension of your neck and 558 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: possibly compressing the carotid arteries in your neck, where the 559 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: materiral arteries in your neck. I never thought of this, 560 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: but I will say that when I used to get 561 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: my hair washed as a kid, when if I was 562 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: a day that I was like skipping at bath or something. 563 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: A momm would just be like, let me wash your 564 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: hair in the bathtub. I remember my neck hurting so bad. 565 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: And when I get my hair washed at the salon, 566 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: I hate it too because it feels so gross. 567 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: I hate it. 568 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Don't put like when I go to the hair salon, 569 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: she puts a towel under your mind, but that that's 570 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: a recent that's more recent, or they put that pillow. 571 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: There's been some ones that I've been to that I've 572 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: been like, I feel so sick and I'm and now 573 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that's why, because it was compressing the 574 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: oxygen to my brain, Like really it's it's it's uncomfortable 575 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: if you're one of those old school shampoo boles that 576 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: doesn't have the pillow on it. 577 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: Now, I mean yeah, I do remember being younger and 578 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: it just being massively uncomfortable. But I think now the 579 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: seats have you know, the built in either like you're saying, 580 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: the pillows or your hair chick should like put in 581 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: a towel or something. But I don't know. 582 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: So this one, there was a woman that had this 583 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: happen at the hair salon that she got I guess 584 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: it compressed it to the point where she developed a 585 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: clot in the vertebral artery, and then over the next 586 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, the clot broke off and traveled to 587 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: her brain and she had a stroke. 588 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: And that was giving symptoms of it. 589 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: I think it's crazy that they could pinpoint that. 590 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was saying, Like, that's what I 591 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: was thinking, because if I went to the hair salon 592 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: and I think she was saying, what one to two 593 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: days later she wasn't feeling well, I definitely wouldn't think 594 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: it was from there. Yeah, there has to be a 595 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: little bit more like and the symptoms they provided in 596 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: this article were the same symptoms they give you for 597 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: every other like if you have the flu, if you 598 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: have it generalized, if you're having a stroke, I mean 599 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: just in general, when you're you could have positional asphyxia 600 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: kind of. I guess you would say a compression of 601 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: your vessels. I mean it happens to you all the time, Right, 602 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: You're sitting there with your legs crossed, and then all 603 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: of a sudden, your foot falls asleep. 604 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 2: Like that's what's happening. You're compressing the nerves, You're compressing 605 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: the blood supply, right, you know when you get pins 606 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: and needles versus that really really gross. 607 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: Feeling where your legs, like completely, yes. 608 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: Like that's what's that's what's happening there. So it could 609 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: happen when you're pregnant. Your heavy uterus can compress on 610 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: your inferior being a kiva and could cause you to 611 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: Like when I had to go to the dentist or 612 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: something when I was pregnant, or any kind of thing 613 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: where you have to lay back like that, Like I 614 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: couldn't do it even with the ultra sense. 615 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: It was weird. 616 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like I'm going to pass 617 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: out because it was compressing so bad. So, I mean, 618 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 2: in theory it's a thing. I just I can't believe. 619 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't understand how they're able to pinpoint it to 620 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: exactly that, because if she went in with a stroke, 621 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: how would they I don't know. It's just it just 622 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: kind of is like a stretch to me a little 623 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: bit to say this caused this. 624 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Well, they're saying only fifty four cases of it have 625 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: been identified over forty eight years, so I would consider 626 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: this to be pretty rare if roughly one's happening. 627 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: If it happened acutely, like right in the chair something 628 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: like that, Then I would say, okay, that that definitely 629 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: is causitive, unless unless she said, you know what, I 630 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: did get my hair done a day ago and I 631 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: got up and I felt dizzy and they had to 632 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: give me water, and you know, like if there was 633 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: like something happened at that time that she you know, 634 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: because sometimes they'll say like, have you been feeling well? 635 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: What's been going on? And then you would say, yeah, you. 636 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: Know what, I was seeing spots the other day. It 637 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: could have been that, you know whatever, it was. 638 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: So all right, Well, I guess new fear unlocked for 639 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: those of us who go to the air slots. I 640 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: think I think it's a pretty slim chance it's gonna 641 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: happen to anybody, But I guess just be aware of 642 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: your neck. Kerts Okay, guys, On Sunday, we're going to 643 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: be sponsoring the golf carts at the Keeping Hope Alive IVF, 644 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: a golf Classic, and then next Saturday we're going to 645 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: be doing a live show at Dark sid New Jersey 646 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: in Edison. 647 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys should definitely go to that if you 648 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: live in Jersey or New York or Pennsylvania, or if 649 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: you want to take a road trip, because I think, 650 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: just aside from us doing the live show, which will 651 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: be amazing enough and worth the ride, I think that 652 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: the stuff that that the little snippets I'm seeing of 653 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: their promos looks like there's gonna be some really cool 654 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: stuff for sal there. 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