Speaker 1: Did you ever get lost in that though? Did it
Speaker 1: ever define you?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a while I felt defined by it until
Speaker 3: I started to redefine what it was to take accountability,
Speaker 3: because accountability isn't just saying I fucked up I did this.
Speaker 3: Accountability is saying I fucked up, I did this. But
Speaker 3: let me just try to take full accountability for the
Speaker 3: mistakes that I made, regardless of the reasons why I
Speaker 3: did them, and then let me try to learn from
Speaker 3: those mistakes.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for watching guys. Today's episode is brought to
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Speaker 1: the building today. Who has been Rockinstace, the nineteen.
Speaker 4: Hundreds Woo eighteen hundred.
Speaker 1: Chart topping hit maker. Many would say, an R and
Speaker 1: B sex symbol.
Speaker 4: Let's say such a thing.
Speaker 1: Many people, including Essence in twenty ten, they said that
Speaker 1: also one of the most outspoken and funny artists that
Speaker 1: you can follow social media right now. I said this
Speaker 1: to him when he walked in. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: things is watching the many incarnations of Eric Bennet and
Speaker 1: how you have navigated and how you are here now
Speaker 1: and how you took a did you take a city
Speaker 1: bike over here?
Speaker 4: Did always I'll get New York and I'll just hop
Speaker 4: on the bike.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like you've been riding the wave
Speaker 1: of your career and your life in that type of
Speaker 1: way from the outside. I don't know from the inside,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's been so many times that
Speaker 1: you're this guy. Why is my phone? Did I not
Speaker 1: shut it off?
Speaker 4: Shut up people texting me? You said, ooh, ask Eric?
Speaker 1: Did ask Eric?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I feel like you came in the game and you were.
Speaker 4: Like a certain thing.
Speaker 1: What was the thing?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 3: It was a barefoot bohemian smelling like a pack of incense.
Speaker 4: Neo so I don't like that time.
Speaker 1: I know you hate neil so artists.
Speaker 4: That's what I was.
Speaker 1: And how did you feel in that box?
Speaker 4: I felt like some of it was kind of true,
Speaker 4: because I feel like incenses. You enjoy some incense. And
Speaker 4: I was I was a holistic person, but I think my.
Speaker 3: My personality was closer to that of like an Oakland,
Speaker 3: California person, because in Oakland they'll be into the chakras
Speaker 3: and the instance, but they'll be like, you look at
Speaker 3: me the wrong way, you get cut my fucker, don't
Speaker 3: get this.
Speaker 4: So I think I was more of a mixture of that, but.
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember very distinctly, and I was also
Speaker 3: I have always been this goofy personality that people see online.
Speaker 3: But I remember specifically in a publicity meeting at A
Speaker 3: and not A and R. But when I was first
Speaker 3: signed to Warner Brothers and me always doing voices and
Speaker 3: cracking jokes and being goofy. I remember having this conversation,
Speaker 3: we're marketing you as like this sexy, smooth like.
Speaker 4: In public in and interviews just toned down that goofy shit.
Speaker 4: And so did they say those words basically yes, And
Speaker 4: it kind of that kind of stuck, making me feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: if I want this to work, I'm gonna let this
Speaker 4: part of myself show, but maybe hold back to goofy Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Dude, Oh that doesn't sound fun.
Speaker 4: It wasn't un fun.
Speaker 3: It just didn't feel one hundred percent authentic, you know.
Speaker 3: But I think once you get to a certain age,
Speaker 3: you stop considering what you are supposed to look like
Speaker 3: and then you just start being what you are. And
Speaker 3: and then that was right around the time that I
Speaker 3: discovered like TikTok and instant and shit.
Speaker 4: Oh, so this is a recent kind of well, the
Speaker 4: discovery of being authentic isn't recent, but the introduction to
Speaker 4: that part of myself to the world public is recent.
Speaker 3: Yes, because that was like, like, I don't know what
Speaker 3: I've been on TikTok, like for not even four years,
Speaker 3: I don't even know something.
Speaker 1: It feels in modern times, it feels very recent.
Speaker 4: It feels very and relatively speaking, in my career, it
Speaker 4: has been recent.
Speaker 3: And in the first comments were like, wait, hold up,
Speaker 3: is this barefoot Eric Breney?
Speaker 4: Did he just say nigga?
Speaker 1: What you know?
Speaker 3: So it's it was a lot of that, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a relief to be able to of course
Speaker 3: it is, and it always is when you feel like
Speaker 3: what any situation you're in, if you feel like you're
Speaker 3: not being completely authentic, when you finally are, it feels
Speaker 3: so good. And then to have people affirm that.
Speaker 4: Like, where the fuck was this dude?
Speaker 1: We like him?
Speaker 4: We like him, like y'all like me this whole time?
Speaker 1: You mean you like me the whole time. So I've
Speaker 1: been right here, I go right, I've been right here.
Speaker 4: Trying to be mister smooth, suave, and shit, it's not really.
Speaker 1: Mean, does it, does it?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 1: Like if you look like old.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I look at old, old photo shoots and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh man, look at me. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: do what they call it today, the looks maxing right there.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do the blue steel in that picture.
Speaker 1: You know, it worked for some You got you on
Speaker 1: some of the sexiest man lists.
Speaker 4: We got the rent paid for a little while.
Speaker 1: It got it got, it got the ladies going. It
Speaker 1: got the ladies going. And you were you know, you
Speaker 1: were a singer. You probably served you in some type
Speaker 1: of way. Yeah, who were you before that? Though? Like
Speaker 1: who were you?
Speaker 4: The nerd? The nerd like in school and like I
Speaker 4: was the reading science fiction, sketching comic book stuff, doing.
Speaker 1: Art, singing, listen.
Speaker 4: Singing, Yeah, singing, But singing to me was such a
Speaker 4: what did I want to say?
Speaker 3: Singing to me was such a reflex like like like
Speaker 3: like like a visceral thing, like like something I didn't
Speaker 3: even have to think about, So I didn't even think
Speaker 3: about It's interesting, I don't know how to put it.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about singing something that.
Speaker 3: I did as an interest as much as it was
Speaker 3: like just who you are?
Speaker 4: Just what it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like just like you got two years
Speaker 3: it's like, oh shit, Yeah, singing is just.
Speaker 4: Part of me your whole life. Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: Because my I'm the youngest in this group of super
Speaker 3: musical siblings and uh, father and mom just loved music
Speaker 3: and had their own distinctive music collections.
Speaker 4: And all my siblings sang. We sang in harmony, we
Speaker 4: played instruments.
Speaker 3: We that's what That's what home life was for me,
Speaker 3: to the point where I thought everybody's family was like this,
Speaker 3: you know, just like on Sunday everybody ate dinner.
Speaker 4: I thought everybody like harmonized and shit, and it was
Speaker 4: like and then I remember.
Speaker 3: Being surprised in school when it's music time how many
Speaker 3: people had no sense of pitch?
Speaker 1: Well do you like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like seven, you know when the kids around you, Yeah,
Speaker 3: why why are you two whole steps above the key
Speaker 3: of the song, Like like are you deaf? And so
Speaker 3: I'm thinking this kid is maybe this kid is deaf.
Speaker 1: So it's wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something's wrong with you because it was so like anyway,
Speaker 3: but yeah, music has just been been me.
Speaker 1: It's just who you are.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It took a minute for me to realize, oh, maybe
Speaker 3: I could do a career this, But again, it was
Speaker 3: weird because to me, it was just like walking.
Speaker 1: It's like, what am I going to do? Make pay
Speaker 1: me for this?
Speaker 3: People would pay me to just like sing and shit.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't until puberty when I realized.
Speaker 1: Girls like this, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And then, like I said, I was just like little
Speaker 3: nerdy dude who was always doing something that the rest
Speaker 3: of the guys weren't doing. So and then when I
Speaker 3: was like, nobody really knew I could sing, and I
Speaker 3: never really volunteered for any solos or thing until it
Speaker 3: was like seventh grade and I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 3: let me enter this talent show and I sang like
Speaker 3: Lionel Richie's.
Speaker 4: Truly who I brought the house down?
Speaker 1: Is there a video of that anywhere?
Speaker 3: I hope so. But you know, we were lucky to
Speaker 3: have electricity back then.
Speaker 1: Yea video. You don't have a video of it. But
Speaker 1: I remember there.
Speaker 4: Was this girl, Vicky Stanton.
Speaker 1: Where is she?
Speaker 4: I have no fucking clue, but I remember back before
Speaker 4: I sang truly, Vicky did not. I was.
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh that's Eric. He's like a
Speaker 3: little weird, little nerd guy. And I'd be like I
Speaker 3: didn't even know how to talk to Vicky when I
Speaker 3: sang truly. The next day, Vicky was at my locker
Speaker 3: with her eyes a Google eyed, and I was like,
Speaker 3: got her. I think I got some shit right here, right.
Speaker 1: So I'm always surprised how many people, how many men
Speaker 1: have launched a.
Speaker 3: Career yeah based on Yeah, women that testosterone to run
Speaker 3: your brain.
Speaker 1: There's so many of you that I've interviewed, and I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: it must because you know their parent of this.
Speaker 4: There was a girl.
Speaker 1: It was a girl, And I got so many girls.
Speaker 5: I thought, this's going to be my life right right right,
Speaker 5: So funny, but especially at that time when you're at
Speaker 5: that twelve thirteen years old, when you're so nerdy and
Speaker 5: insecure and you don't know how to talk to people,
Speaker 5: and then you discover this almost like superpower you have
Speaker 5: and it's like, oh shit, I will.
Speaker 3: Wield this sword with responsibility. So it was that kind
Speaker 3: of vibe. It was like, Oh, this is some powerful
Speaker 3: shit I got.
Speaker 1: So what were you doing with that powerful shit? At
Speaker 1: the age of past forward ten years to eighteen twenty.
Speaker 3: At eighteen twenty and again, as much as the whole
Speaker 3: Vicky Stanton story and the wielding the power of the
Speaker 3: voice and all that shit.
Speaker 4: I never really.
Speaker 3: Put two feet down, two feet down and said my
Speaker 3: career is going to be music, because, you know, for
Speaker 3: a bunch of reasons. I think it was part of
Speaker 3: that ingrained black mom and dad who were like, you've
Speaker 3: got to go to college and okay, music, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but you got to have a solid degree.
Speaker 1: And even your parents, I'm surprised, yes, music lovers.
Speaker 4: Well, my father, mainly my dad.
Speaker 3: He was like this frustrated, cultured dude who became a
Speaker 3: policeman and a detective out of necessity in Milwaukee. But
Speaker 3: he was really cultured and he wanted more for us.
Speaker 3: And oddly enough, I told my dad, like, right before
Speaker 3: I graduated high school, I was like, Dad, I think
Speaker 3: I want to be a fashion design because I still
Speaker 3: wasn't thinking music equals career, and he was like, fashion designer,
Speaker 3: a black man was a fashion like my dad didn't
Speaker 3: have a whole lot of vision. He should have came
Speaker 3: to New York and learned about black men in fashion design.
Speaker 3: But so basically I spent a year or a year
Speaker 3: and a half in college and then around nineteen, my
Speaker 3: cousin George called me and told me that there was
Speaker 3: a band, a relatively successful band in Milwaukee, nobody who
Speaker 3: had any national fame or anything, but they were they
Speaker 3: were always doing performing at the hot clubs and they
Speaker 3: had radio spots.
Speaker 4: So it's like in the name of the band was Girard,
Speaker 4: and every every weekend you'd hear commercials about, you know,
Speaker 4: after the drag speed way in this park, and also
Speaker 4: there will be Gerard performing, and like, wow, Gerard.
Speaker 3: One day and my cousin told me Gerard was looking
Speaker 3: for a new lead singer, sister, and I joined your Yard.
Speaker 4: And then I was like, all right, I'll see what
Speaker 4: the singing shit does. And then it was like.
Speaker 1: No turning back after no turning.
Speaker 3: Back after that, because then I got a chance. That
Speaker 3: was my college because for the next.
Speaker 4: Couple of years I was in Gerard.
Speaker 3: But but the cool thing about being in a corny
Speaker 3: band is you get to learn how to work an audience,
Speaker 3: especially drunk audiences in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: You don't know who really, probably don't really know who
Speaker 1: you a.
Speaker 4: They don't want to hear me sing. They want to
Speaker 4: hear the other girl with the tits sing, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: the black dude what is he gonna sing? So I
Speaker 4: got to like win them over? I got a break
Speaker 4: up fights.
Speaker 1: Did you have a go to song that you would
Speaker 1: win them over?
Speaker 4: Well? Whatever was hot? What you know at any given
Speaker 4: time this we were doing Gerard.
Speaker 3: Every two to three months, we would learn four more
Speaker 3: top forty songs, whether it was my prerogative or or
Speaker 3: some Madonna song.
Speaker 4: Yo, I'm telling you it was. It was the I
Speaker 4: was I kill that shit? You do?
Speaker 1: I kill that Bobby.
Speaker 4: Brown ship back then. So so whatever was the hottest
Speaker 4: at the moment, I'd be like, it's my prerogative. I'd
Speaker 4: be trying to do the Bobby Brown dance, mose and
Speaker 4: ship and there was a rap after that. It was
Speaker 4: like yeah, So, I mean that was my college. That
Speaker 4: was learning how to hone my And the other thing
Speaker 4: about Gerard was when you have to learn those songs
Speaker 4: every couple of months, it's like a mechanic taking apart
Speaker 4: of an engine putting it back together. I learned hit
Speaker 4: how to construct a hit song?
Speaker 1: Oh smart.
Speaker 3: So it was like, you know, we got to go
Speaker 3: in the studio, we got to listen to all the harmonies.
Speaker 3: We got to be like, okay, figure out the bass
Speaker 3: and the chords and the boom and the breach around
Speaker 3: and it's a it's a formula a hit song. It's
Speaker 3: like it's like three or four formulas, but variations of
Speaker 3: those formulas work.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good bar for life because sometimes people,
Speaker 1: especially nowadays, people who try to rush to the end
Speaker 1: goal or they try to get it fast. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: sometimes fast you missed. You missed the work that it
Speaker 1: takes for you to be great. So you're gonna be
Speaker 1: fast food. You're gonna be quick fast. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: have the nourishment you saying some shit right now, No,
Speaker 1: the nourishment that you get from having that experience.
Speaker 3: And I really think a lot of today's artists, to
Speaker 3: the risk of sounding like an old man, it's like
Speaker 3: they skip all those steps. They go from in their
Speaker 3: bedroom to doing something on TikTok and face the camera
Speaker 3: which is awesome, to maybe a viral moment and boom,
Speaker 3: throw you on stage, and it's like, you know, but
Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta do a couple of years of
Speaker 3: learning what it means to actually be physical on stage
Speaker 3: and how that how you maintain your voice, because that's
Speaker 3: there's so many I should open the school up.
Speaker 1: You should like a master class. I should do a
Speaker 1: master class. You have a great social media following up,
Speaker 1: you can send them all that way.
Speaker 4: So damn good idea, You're welcome. I feel like this
Speaker 4: is a back to the future moment here, you.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 4: But no, because there's so many facets to this business
Speaker 4: that a lot of artists tend to skip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And uh, we didn't. We didn't. And the and another
Speaker 4: cool thing about Gerard was they owned a recording studio.
Speaker 4: I know, I got it. Every time I hear I
Speaker 4: see the name written, I hear it as they said
Speaker 4: it on the radio this weekend, Gerard. But well, oh
Speaker 4: so they.
Speaker 1: The Spanish radio station.
Speaker 4: Sounds like, but it got that Spanish told O, my god,
Speaker 4: those gee guys him Gerou. But they owned a studio.
Speaker 3: And in the late eighties and early nineties that was
Speaker 3: not a common thing. You know, everybody got a studio
Speaker 3: in their laptop now, but Girard had like a.
Speaker 4: Thirty two track studio. Imagine that. Wow.
Speaker 3: And so when we weren't gigging, my cousin and my
Speaker 3: sister we were like, yo, can we use the studio
Speaker 3: and just write some shit? And my cousin George and
Speaker 3: my sister Lisa. We would go into the studio and
Speaker 3: we would I would write songs, they would write songs.
Speaker 3: We'd write songs together, and then we eventually got the
Speaker 3: deal with E and I Capitol as benet.
Speaker 4: It was me and my sisters as a group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're how old?
Speaker 4: What was that like, twenty two, twenty something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: trying to figure shit out.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to have a birthday in October and big,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a damn it's even crazy to
Speaker 3: say sixty sixty?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy. You don't look anything close to sixty.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: So what is it? What does it feel like? What
Speaker 1: did you learn in the past decade? What did the fifties?
Speaker 4: Jesus, how much time we got? An hour?
Speaker 6: Time?
Speaker 1: Give me like the brief version the headlines.
Speaker 4: You're always.
Speaker 3: Learning how to improve yourself. You know, there's like maturity
Speaker 3: is not like a a destination.
Speaker 4: It's like a constant journey.
Speaker 3: You are always a work in process until it's done,
Speaker 3: and it ain't done until it's done. And one of
Speaker 3: the things that keep me feeling this uncharacteristically youthful sixty
Speaker 3: is I always I feel like I'm always trying to
Speaker 3: expand and try new things and do new things. And
Speaker 3: I think that keeps I mean, I think that keeps
Speaker 3: my brain more active, and it definitely keeps your body
Speaker 3: more in shape. And if you're conscious about what you
Speaker 3: put into that body, mainly like water. And I cut
Speaker 3: a lot of things out over the years, and I've
Speaker 3: tried to pick up more healthy practices.
Speaker 4: Then you can be sixty.
Speaker 3: As it looks for me today, where I feel active,
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm ready to take on two or
Speaker 3: three new more challenges, and I feel like by the
Speaker 3: time I hit sixty five, I'm probably going to have
Speaker 3: two or three more endeavors I ain't even thought of yet.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't feel like slowing down. At twenty years old,
Speaker 3: forty felt like, oh it's a wrap. Yeah, my life
Speaker 3: is over at forty Shit, fucking forget it.
Speaker 1: That is true the feeling. But the reality of our
Speaker 1: time on this earth is that we are past the
Speaker 1: halfway mark. That's likely we leave to one ten or
Speaker 1: one twenty. Does that not freak you out? Or did
Speaker 1: that ever freak you out? Aging in that way when
Speaker 1: you think about how our time is limited?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if I really?
Speaker 1: But is that a morbid depressing question to ask?
Speaker 3: It's not a morbid depressing question, but it's like it's
Speaker 3: like anything else. It's like if you think about the
Speaker 3: if you're in a challenging situation and life has its challenges,
Speaker 3: if you're in a challenging situation, and if you're always
Speaker 3: thinking about the worst possible outcome. Then you're going to
Speaker 3: affect everything that you're going to benefit from that challenging
Speaker 3: situation any all the ways you're going to grow, all
Speaker 3: the ways that you're going to be uplifted. And it's
Speaker 3: the same thing if you're always thinking about, damn, I'm
Speaker 3: sixty statistically speaking, I got eighteen years more left.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: If I think about that, that's just gonna fu limit
Speaker 3: and fuck up whatever time I have left. So I
Speaker 3: think that's the way to look at it.
Speaker 4: So you say, fuck that, Yeah, fuck the end, because shit,
Speaker 4: I might be one of them fools that be like
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten years old. My name every Ben.
Speaker 1: Back in the nineteen hundreds, in nineteen.
Speaker 4: Ninety one, we had cell phones, not these digital chips,
Speaker 4: and I had you know.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely happening, by the way, it is absolutely happening.
Speaker 1: How have you throughout the years and through other ups
Speaker 1: and downs and the public things and the whatever, how
Speaker 1: have you maintained not letting outside become who you are inside?
Speaker 1: I feel I ask you about the lessons, and it
Speaker 1: not the details.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll say so, the lessons.
Speaker 1: The headlines, Oh, that's.
Speaker 4: A chapter to it.
Speaker 3: When I write, when I write my book, I think
Speaker 3: that's going to headline. It's going to be the name
Speaker 3: of the chapter.
Speaker 1: WHA.
Speaker 4: And I ain't giving you no credit Why I.
Speaker 1: Gave you that? And I give you about your masterclass.
Speaker 1: I gave you to Jewels today headlines.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things about going through life's
Speaker 3: challenges is it really helps galvanize, like how you are
Speaker 3: not a responsive to negative energy, you know. I think
Speaker 3: when if there's negative energy coming at you, and if
Speaker 3: there is, uh, I shouldn't say negative energy, I should
Speaker 3: say h less than positive views of you for things
Speaker 3: that you you've taken accountability for and you've done, and
Speaker 3: you've tried, you've tried to improve yourself and your psyche
Speaker 3: and your mental from things that you've realized that you've done.
Speaker 3: First of all, you can't expect the world or anybody
Speaker 3: else to immediately forgive you, and then you have to
Speaker 3: forget or forget because.
Speaker 4: Then they'll try to define you by mistakes. And then
Speaker 4: you can't you can't allow what they are thinking of
Speaker 4: you affect how you feel about you, because there's the
Speaker 4: internal journey that you're on. Nobody body else knows but you.
Speaker 3: So I think going through that process, it actually makes
Speaker 3: you a better person and kind of facilitates growth faster,
Speaker 3: I think, or at least that's the way I feel
Speaker 3: about life.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get lost in that though? Did it
Speaker 1: ever define you? Like I think?
Speaker 4: In so many ways? If you look at my comments to.
Speaker 3: A lot of people, I feel like going through the
Speaker 3: biggest fuck up I felt. Yeah, for a while, I
Speaker 3: felt defined by it until I started to redefine what
Speaker 3: it was to to take accountability. Because accountability isn't just
Speaker 3: saying I fucked up I did this. Accountability is saying
Speaker 3: I fucked up.
Speaker 4: I did this. Let me try not to think of
Speaker 4: the reasons.
Speaker 3: Or the something that could be misinterpreted by other people
Speaker 3: or even myself as excuses. But let me just try
Speaker 3: to take full accountability for the mistakes that I made,
Speaker 3: regardless of the reasons why I did them, and then
Speaker 3: let me try to learn from those mistakes. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean, I do. But until I get to that,
Speaker 3: until that process is finished, yeah, it's there's a lot
Speaker 3: of beating yourself up and feeling like I'm less than I'm.
Speaker 1: Worried in the storm of that. How old are you, Jesus?
Speaker 1: Were you in like your twenties. No, you in thirties forties.
Speaker 4: Oh I wasn't it. I was like in thirties, thirties, Okay,
Speaker 4: it's like like early thirties. Like like I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: was it early thirties? Probably, But a young.
Speaker 1: Man, a young successful man who was an artist, was
Speaker 1: in his thirties, who was involved in any kind of cheating,
Speaker 1: scandal or whatever you call whatever the thing is. It's
Speaker 1: not the craziest or most uncommon thing. It's not like
Speaker 1: it's not like you robbed the bank or you did
Speaker 1: you did you violated you know, or it was violent
Speaker 1: or it was nothing like that. I mean, you had.
Speaker 4: Some things are often always.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's it's a it was a lot
Speaker 1: to put on you for just a time in your
Speaker 1: life where some maybe human error, maybe not error, maybe
Speaker 1: that had to happen for you to get to wherever
Speaker 1: you are now or to get into another marriage that
Speaker 1: you probably did better and got, you know, and healed yourself.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I'm just saying, do you feel
Speaker 1: like a lot was put on you for the crime? No?
Speaker 4: Dead, like seriously, Like there's a way I answer that question.
Speaker 4: And it's like if I answered okay, so I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to get you back in trouble or something that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no no no. At the time, like I said,
Speaker 4: I felt, I felt like all of the.
Speaker 3: What's the word, I'm looking for admonishment, I'm receiving my actions.
Speaker 4: I felt like I.
Speaker 3: Deserve them, really, and in retrospect, looking back, I'm feeling like, wow,
Speaker 3: that was a lot. But if that hadn't happened, I
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have been able to evolve to where I'm
Speaker 3: at today, and I don't know if I would be.
Speaker 4: The personality that.
Speaker 3: I feel inside and that is reflected when people see
Speaker 3: me online. So it's like, you know, just no poetic
Speaker 3: way of saying, there is no excellence without difficulty. There's
Speaker 3: no growth without struggle and fucking up and falling on
Speaker 3: your face sometimes people in front of the whole fucking world,
Speaker 3: which I don't I don't really think anybody will ever
Speaker 3: understand what that's like. I mean, you've lived a very
Speaker 3: public life and sometimes.
Speaker 1: Something but not that. That's why I'm curious about it,
Speaker 1: because even in the smaller scale that I have experienced
Speaker 1: things where maybe people didn't like something I said or
Speaker 1: something was misunderstood. Even in those moments, I have to
Speaker 1: get quiet and make sure that I'm okay with myself, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that I don't fall victim to other people's understanding
Speaker 1: of whatever the thing is right even in my small situations.
Speaker 1: And I've been pretty good in my career, you know God,
Speaker 1: because of God. But I'm just saying at that level,
Speaker 1: I just wonder, man, he got to be rocked through.
Speaker 3: That, because in that moment, you felt like if you
Speaker 3: misunderstood and you communicated in inappropriately like then it would
Speaker 3: bring another rush of I think you're saying.
Speaker 1: No. I think in that moment, if I wasn't strong
Speaker 1: in my own spirit, in my own thoughts, I could
Speaker 1: start believing or start acting differently, trying to either prove
Speaker 1: something to somebody or okay or self doubt sets it
Speaker 1: all that, all the shit, all the stuff that comes
Speaker 1: from outside opinions. And I say I share this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff because I think even on people's in people's
Speaker 1: real life at the job, everybody in the job thinks
Speaker 1: you're something. I think that thing we're talking about you
Speaker 1: had it on a very big scale.
Speaker 4: A cataclysmic scale, yes.
Speaker 1: But that might feel like that to somebody else who
Speaker 1: maybe everybody at the job knows true. How about the
Speaker 1: guy who was how about the guy who was at
Speaker 1: the Coldplay concert with the girl from the job. Did
Speaker 1: you see that?
Speaker 4: Did you imagine like you had? No, you went from
Speaker 4: zero to one hundred and twenty. Yeah, you had your
Speaker 4: own little private bubble of life and then woosh.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that guy or even that girl, everybody's
Speaker 1: attention on you sometimes, I don't know, just gets in
Speaker 1: your own way, And I think I think people have
Speaker 1: to navigate that on their own levels or whatever levels,
Speaker 1: And I just think somebody who had to deal with
Speaker 1: it in such a grand way, like understanding how you
Speaker 1: manage that is interesting to me, like more so than
Speaker 1: the details of all of the things, but that you
Speaker 1: navigated that and learned from us.
Speaker 4: So life is it's like.
Speaker 3: Whatever whatever is thrown your way, it's like you have
Speaker 3: two opportunity, No, you really have three opportunities.
Speaker 4: There's always drugs. How's that bad?
Speaker 1: Okay? Wait did you you didn't? You didn't go that route?
Speaker 4: No, what was the route?
Speaker 1: What was the route for healing for you?
Speaker 3: Accountability time, trying to trying to make amends as much
Speaker 3: as I possibly possibly could, but with yourself, with myself,
Speaker 3: with her, with my family, uh, with with everybody who
Speaker 3: and friends, everybody who was around me who I felt
Speaker 3: like I just let down, and with myself, and and.
Speaker 4: Then going through that process, then there's time.
Speaker 3: You know, then there's then there's just quite And remember
Speaker 3: at the time, it was like I was a single
Speaker 3: dad to my daughter, and then it was like, okay.
Speaker 3: It was that situation where I gotta, you know, hey,
Speaker 3: you fucked up. Let's get it together, because look who's
Speaker 3: waking up every morning and smiling and laughing and looking
Speaker 3: for breakfast.
Speaker 4: So whenever I'm in her face, I can't be like.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, I fuck my life up.
Speaker 4: Ship, I gotta be. I still gotta be happy daddy.
Speaker 3: And so that was an incredible not just catalysts, but
Speaker 3: the whole nucleus of get your ship together. Nigga, Yes
Speaker 3: you fell down, so what blah blah, get up, get up,
Speaker 3: get up?
Speaker 4: You fucked up. You know, look at look at that face.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's not a very easy thing for
Speaker 1: And I don't want to just put this on men,
Speaker 1: because I do know a lot of women who struggle
Speaker 1: with this also, but apologize. Accountability and apologizing it's not
Speaker 1: always easy for people. Was that easy for you before
Speaker 1: or in life or did you have to learn how
Speaker 1: to do that? But you were forced to so I think, well,
Speaker 1: you had a lot of siblings, so sometimes that helps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I got a lot of siblings. I'm
Speaker 3: the baby of those siblings, so that may have had
Speaker 3: something to do with me fucking up in the first place.
Speaker 1: Is that attention just like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think apologizing for me when I know
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think think. I don't think that was my struggle.
Speaker 4: I think like acting like everything was cool when it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I have historically been good with that until the carhouse
Speaker 3: comes falling down and then I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, holy fuck, I'm not okay.
Speaker 4: I'm not okay, and I fucked up. And then once
Speaker 4: that happens, apologies is very natural. Accountability is the next,
Speaker 4: like I said, other than drugs and alcohol, you have
Speaker 4: to face reality. And yeah, the reality is like you
Speaker 4: built this.
Speaker 1: What's on the other side of that, like, what's the
Speaker 1: next phase.
Speaker 3: What's on the other side is a bit more fearlessness
Speaker 3: for doing good stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, never a fear of like I don't know,
Speaker 1: slipping back into old habits or old.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, But you know.
Speaker 3: What it did was before all that happened, I think
Speaker 3: I had a fear of failure. It's almost like it
Speaker 3: was an inoculation to a fear of failure, you know,
Speaker 3: because I was just it was a readiness to try
Speaker 3: new things and a confidence to meet people.
Speaker 4: I met my wife.
Speaker 1: How old when you imit your wife? Thirties? Thirties? Right?
Speaker 4: Well, no, and by that time I was I think
Speaker 4: I was forty maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a new evolution of.
Speaker 4: A new had kids.
Speaker 3: We have Luna and Lucia who are fourteen and eleven now,
Speaker 3: and they are brilliant. And India is just a brilliant
Speaker 3: woman now. And yeah, so I think there's always strength
Speaker 3: after you do the work, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that must have been that must have been
Speaker 1: really joyful for you to find love after being going
Speaker 1: through all of that, going through publicly being down, having
Speaker 1: to get up, raising your daughter, and then actually finding
Speaker 1: love and being healed. It's beautiful, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because it's probably a different experience because if you go
Speaker 1: into a marriage or relationship unhealed from the beginning, it
Speaker 1: can't feel as good as going into a relationship healed.
Speaker 3: Very true, and one of the most incredible things about
Speaker 3: this time around is so with my oldest daughter India,
Speaker 3: I didn't have a partner. I have my family helping
Speaker 3: me out.
Speaker 4: Now I have a partner who is you know who?
Speaker 3: These two little incredible humans are the most important things
Speaker 3: in her life as well.
Speaker 1: So you have to share that lived experience. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wonderful and you know it's it's just it's
Speaker 4: a joyous experience.
Speaker 1: Are you a good husband?
Speaker 7: I try to be come on, you know, if you
Speaker 7: are in that Yeah, yeah, And I think.
Speaker 3: I think there's especially in this business. I think when
Speaker 3: when you are traveling as much as you are, when
Speaker 3: you are away from you want to be there for
Speaker 3: everything and you're not, and sometimes your kids don't understand.
Speaker 3: And she, my wife, Manuela, is incredible. She's one of
Speaker 3: those like attentive to every detailed person and I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like the opposite. So I think being a good
Speaker 3: husband is you know, a big part of that too.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think I can always do better
Speaker 3: when it comes.
Speaker 4: To that, But overall, overall, I think I think so, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think so. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: in an emphatic yes, what have you.
Speaker 1: Learned about that? Like? What is the lesson? Like? What
Speaker 1: have you learned? Like what did it take to be
Speaker 1: a good husband?
Speaker 3: Probably uh, going through the challenges of not being a
Speaker 3: good person, right, And I think.
Speaker 4: That's always the case. It's like, who is that talking to?
Speaker 4: I was talking to a buddy.
Speaker 1: Of mine about mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: I remember a buddy of mine and said he was
Speaker 3: introducing me to his friend and he said, hey, his
Speaker 3: friend was about to get married. And my buddy said, hey,
Speaker 3: let me introduce you to my buddy, Eric Beney, like,
Speaker 3: ask him all the questions you know about marriage and this.
Speaker 4: That and the other.
Speaker 3: And this was before, this was shortly after, shortly after my.
Speaker 4: First marriage ended in and he wanted you to give
Speaker 4: him advice exactly.
Speaker 3: And his friend, after his friend looked at him and said, hey,
Speaker 3: no offense, but I mean I just heard about what happened,
Speaker 3: and it's like, bro, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know if I want advice from you.
Speaker 3: And my friend looked at him and he said, do
Speaker 3: if you're on a motorcycle and you're riding a mall
Speaker 3: hall and drive. Who better to ask for advice on
Speaker 3: how to maneuver that shit then the motherfucker who just
Speaker 3: ran off the edge.
Speaker 4: So I I think there's a bit of it.
Speaker 1: In that spirit. And I've heard your respond to this before,
Speaker 1: but that spirit can you laugh at or someone appreciates
Speaker 1: the never go Eric bin aline or is that a
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're saying the same thing, Eric, it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing you're saying.
Speaker 3: What's funny about that is there was this perception and
Speaker 3: there was even some reporting that you were upset about it,
Speaker 3: not just upset but apoplectic like like like screaming about it.
Speaker 1: And oh I didn't see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we see shit like I see ship, and if
Speaker 3: I see it, I think everybody sees it.
Speaker 4: It was just a good So.
Speaker 1: Yeah you spasing you you you hate j Z?
Speaker 4: Like I was like, yo, jay Z mention me, So
Speaker 4: did you really are.
Speaker 1: You that far removed from that guy that you're Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, I mean me and my team
Speaker 4: we got together, it was like this shit crazy. So yeah,
Speaker 4: there was no like animosity about that that ship. That
Speaker 4: ship was quite funny.
Speaker 3: And then I thought I was being cute with a
Speaker 3: response on back then Twitter and it kind of backfired.
Speaker 1: Who was the response, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: It was something something that was funny, some funny that
Speaker 4: I thought, Oh, like I thought.
Speaker 1: I was living my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said something I thought was funny.
Speaker 3: And it was like I was looking at the comments.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I should have shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: But you weren't somewhere sitting somewhere angry.
Speaker 4: I was in It was funny. I was in Cuba.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I was in Cuba and there were these
Speaker 4: articles talking about how I was so angry and I
Speaker 4: was so Spanish. No, no, like you were looking at
Speaker 4: back home. Yeah, like how Eric Benee is definitely upset
Speaker 4: about what happened, and we were like chilling in Havana
Speaker 4: with cigars and ship, having a good time, laughing about
Speaker 4: the whole thing. And it's just funny how the media
Speaker 4: will take something and sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, none of those things, those ups and downs
Speaker 1: and those moments have stopped you from kind of just
Speaker 1: continuing to I don't know, just the channel and you
Speaker 1: have to, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 3: Man, you just gotta like because whatever is happening, there's
Speaker 3: like a perception of what actually happened, and ninety times
Speaker 3: out of one hundred, the reality is something completely different.
Speaker 3: So you can't react to people reacting to something that
Speaker 3: they think is.
Speaker 1: Yea, they get it.
Speaker 4: You feel me.
Speaker 1: But now you're in this space where you've created a
Speaker 1: whole social media personality that you have that we didn't
Speaker 1: know that you had internally, but you never showed us
Speaker 1: on the outside. So everybody thinks there's like a.
Speaker 3: New Yeah, they thinks a new Your dasked Alison. Alison
Speaker 3: is the one right over there who gave me my
Speaker 3: first record deal. She signed me to Warner brother The
Speaker 3: whole time when I got that deal that she gave it.
Speaker 1: To, all the ups and downs we're talking about, she
Speaker 1: was riding right there Passenger Sea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's known that.
Speaker 3: I'm basically I'll run into somebody like Fuzzy and you'll
Speaker 3: be like, yo, Eric, this is the same nigga.
Speaker 4: This is Eric finally.
Speaker 1: So that's funny. Was it surprise to you how people
Speaker 1: have responded to you on socials? Surprising?
Speaker 3: I would say it wasn't surprising as it was It
Speaker 3: just felt affirming, you know, I felt like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess this is this has been me the whole time.
Speaker 3: It feels really good for people to just like me,
Speaker 3: you know, without me trying to like put on some
Speaker 3: kind of blue steel face.
Speaker 4: Is that a weird reference blue steal?
Speaker 1: No, it's no, you know, in the age of.
Speaker 5: Years, okay, because now I read the shirt reference reference
Speaker 5: than that.
Speaker 3: I'm at the age now where I feel if I
Speaker 3: make a lot of my references, I'll be like, does
Speaker 3: anybody understand Remember remember when you were always the youngest
Speaker 3: person in the room, and now that ship don't happen
Speaker 3: no more, And you'll just make a reference in the
Speaker 3: whole room.
Speaker 4: It's like, what is he talking about? I've been blue
Speaker 4: steel Zoolander for those Yeah, go google it, Yeah, go.
Speaker 1: Go board chat it. So what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: with this? Like newfound kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4: Rock, a new single? Yeah, well there's that some music going.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Last year we had a music project that did really well,
Speaker 3: you know, on Allison and my label jb R.
Speaker 4: We had two number one singles. Yes, excuse me, I'm
Speaker 4: b from la uh.
Speaker 1: We have We're going to get a sponsorship now they
Speaker 1: with Eric.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had incredible female artists on this project, like
Speaker 3: artists who.
Speaker 4: Were like fourteen right, and that ship was crazy. I
Speaker 4: don't know how we pull that ship's a lot.
Speaker 1: Because can you name them all quickly?
Speaker 4: Uh? If I do, I'll miss somebody.
Speaker 3: But we're talking about let us see, were talking about
Speaker 3: Jordan Sparks, were talking about Chante Moore, Tamar Brax and
Speaker 3: Kareem Bailey Ray Uh were talking about India India?
Speaker 4: Are we we're talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Pipes?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Well who else? Ari Lennox? Come on, Eric, fuck see
Speaker 3: you know see I'm gonna forget right.
Speaker 1: Fine, don't go through the whole list, but a lot
Speaker 1: of women.
Speaker 3: But two number one singles a project that we're really
Speaker 3: proud of at JBR.
Speaker 1: And who's thinking, whose brain baby is this? Let's go
Speaker 1: get all the women woman over here? Oh got it?
Speaker 4: Who is like? Because I uh.
Speaker 1: You started your career as sexiest man, one of the
Speaker 1: essence sexiest man's alive, you might as well return to.
Speaker 4: Your roots, return to your roots. Well, I'm always returning
Speaker 4: to music.
Speaker 3: And we had a new record label, so it was
Speaker 3: time and I hadn't had something new out in eight years,
Speaker 3: and I decided to Allison, was like, Nigga, you need
Speaker 3: to get your ass back in the studio into an album,
Speaker 3: but we need to make it special. Let's look at
Speaker 3: some of your biggest successes have been duets, so let's
Speaker 3: make a whole you know, spend my Life and Georgia
Speaker 3: Porge and so we did a whole album that way,
Speaker 3: and I'm extremely proud of it. Now we have a
Speaker 3: new single for a solo project to that. I need
Speaker 3: to get back to La and put some finishing energy on,
Speaker 3: a lot of finishing energy on and.
Speaker 4: No features, just you, no features so far. And it's.
Speaker 3: The first single I feel really good about because it's
Speaker 3: really an extension of a lot of my political animus
Speaker 3: on social media, like telling people, yo, let's we're stronger together,
Speaker 3: please stop being silent, like please speak out against the division,
Speaker 3: the subjugation, the trying to rewrite history and erase our rights.
Speaker 3: You know, we gotta fight against that. So the single
Speaker 3: Who's going to Save Us is all about that.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Got in the studio with my man
Speaker 3: DJ Camper Felly, the voice, incredible songwriters and producers, and
Speaker 3: we came up with this joint.
Speaker 1: I love that. Who is going to save us?
Speaker 4: We are?
Speaker 1: We are only we can't, Kelly, how do we do it?
Speaker 1: What's the first thing?
Speaker 3: Well, we've done it multiple times in history. And the
Speaker 3: crazy part about it is how the powers that be
Speaker 3: they keep using the same fucking formula and it keeps working.
Speaker 3: The divide and conquer. Let's know, let's get them to
Speaker 3: fight against each other and then we can rob them
Speaker 3: and we can take away even more of their rights.
Speaker 4: So then they'll start fighting even more and we'll get.
Speaker 3: Even richer, and now we can be trillionaires and they'll
Speaker 3: think we're superpowers.
Speaker 4: And you know, so I.
Speaker 1: Even see it with like what they're doing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I see people going at each other and I
Speaker 1: wonder where the roots of this And a lot of
Speaker 1: times when you track some of that, I wonder if
Speaker 1: that's even real. Like I feel like there's just so
Speaker 1: many bots in AI systems that are literally set up
Speaker 1: to your point to divide and conquer.
Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so scary and it's so wild to watch
Speaker 1: how people play right into it so easy.
Speaker 3: What's especially frustrating to me is two things are going
Speaker 3: to be needed, which it seems lately we haven't been
Speaker 3: tapping into the realization that how powerful we are as
Speaker 3: individuals and to be at least marginally educated. That doesn't
Speaker 3: have to mean you had you gotta you know, have
Speaker 3: a PhD or even graduate from college. But you've got
Speaker 3: to read.
Speaker 4: You gotta read.
Speaker 3: History, the history that they're trying to erase. You have
Speaker 3: to fill your brain with knowledge, and it's it's it's
Speaker 3: disappointing sometimes.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm gonna again. I'm going to sound like
Speaker 4: the old crudgeon, old man right now.
Speaker 1: It's all right, you got good skin, you can get
Speaker 1: away with it. But I don't know if you're experiencing this,
Speaker 1: tell me.
Speaker 3: But sometimes if you talk to nineteen twenty twenty one
Speaker 3: year old, it's like there's certain sometimes and unfortunately for me,
Speaker 3: it's more than not. You know, I work with a
Speaker 3: lot of young people in the music industry, and like
Speaker 3: basic general knowledge stuff, it's like they're clueless.
Speaker 1: About They don't even teach kids how to write and script.
Speaker 1: That's bruh, Yeah, they don't even teach that. And it's
Speaker 1: it's sometimes like I have younger family members or somebody
Speaker 1: young and I'm like, should I write this in script
Speaker 1: or should I? Are they going to be able to
Speaker 1: read this?
Speaker 4: Because is this three syllables?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a simple little thing, let alone
Speaker 1: the important things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, scary and that that's we're going to need those
Speaker 4: two things.
Speaker 3: If we are going to save ourselves. You got to
Speaker 3: empower your brain and empower yourself. And there's so many
Speaker 3: other things attached to that, like taking care of your body.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what does the Eric Brene a self care
Speaker 1: regiment look like? Because you would have to take care
Speaker 1: of yourself to be as.
Speaker 6: Immersed especially in this is political climate and all that
Speaker 6: and everything that's happening in the world.
Speaker 1: Because you immerse yourself. Some of us do a dance
Speaker 1: as much as we can and just try to balance
Speaker 1: a normal life. Understand, you don't your blinders are never on,
Speaker 1: you know. Some of I put blinders on sometimes not
Speaker 1: for long period, just long enough to have my sanity.
Speaker 1: Then I'll go back and pay attention and do my
Speaker 1: work and research and you know, but I do sometimes
Speaker 1: have to find ways to put blinders on.
Speaker 6: But there are people like even the people who do
Speaker 6: ground like my friend to make a mallory or people
Speaker 6: who are.
Speaker 1: Never without blinders. I think, oh, that's that's hard, Like
Speaker 1: you have to.
Speaker 6: Find a way to who And I feel like you
Speaker 6: probably have your own ways exercise or whatever, ways to
Speaker 6: put blinders on, even for a little bit of time,
Speaker 6: but you seem like you're in it pretty much.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Some of my friends are like, dude, why are
Speaker 4: you watching news so much? It's just bringing you down?
Speaker 4: And it does, but it does bring me down, but
Speaker 4: it also it just kind of like it makes me vocal.
Speaker 4: It makes me vocal. You've got to be aware of
Speaker 4: this stuff. It's like it's like I'm forever. I think
Speaker 4: it'll be one hundred, two hundred years from now, and
Speaker 4: if there's if we are still alive as a civilization,
Speaker 4: they will be studying as to how was it possible
Speaker 4: that somebody who has so repeatedly failed in their life,
Speaker 4: and has had such a void of any moral compass
Speaker 4: or character, or ethics, or care or concern for history
Speaker 4: or anything other than his own self ingrandizement, how did
Speaker 4: he become president? And it's like.
Speaker 3: The formula, the formula, the I don't know, distract, the distract, divide,
Speaker 3: and we got and and I think that again.
Speaker 4: I'll say it again.
Speaker 3: The only effective anecdote for that is education and self empowerment.
Speaker 1: What about self care for you? Like, so, what do
Speaker 1: you do? How do you take cas? How do you
Speaker 1: keep your mind?
Speaker 4: Gotta drink your water and I cut out alcohol.
Speaker 1: Really none zero.
Speaker 3: I would say once every couple of months, I'll have
Speaker 3: a glass of wine. You gotta cut out as much
Speaker 3: sugar as you possibly can.
Speaker 4: Look if it's if I'm down South and it's some
Speaker 4: peach cobbler right there, and I know I haven't had
Speaker 4: dessert in like a month, I'm a fuck that peach
Speaker 4: cobbler up right. But I mean, for the most part,
Speaker 4: I think I have to.
Speaker 3: Really monitor and manage sugar intake processed foods. I try
Speaker 3: to maintain a relatively pescatarian diet. Sardines are good, blueberries, yeah,
Speaker 3: try to cut out dairy. I work out four times
Speaker 3: a week, and we.
Speaker 1: Kind of work out, not heavy weights, like weight training or.
Speaker 3: A lot of calisenic stuff, some weight stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll try. I'll try to do like one hundred push
Speaker 3: ups a night, and then I'll do my workout in
Speaker 3: the morning.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: So this doesn't just happen at sixty, right, this is
Speaker 1: time you look at six. This is just not this
Speaker 1: is not genetics, not for me, not for you.
Speaker 4: You work hard to yeah, yeah, because I mean it's
Speaker 4: just a matter of your your natural bodily functions that
Speaker 4: if you don't do it, then your muscles will year
Speaker 4: by year, you'll lose.
Speaker 3: More and more percentage of your muscles and your bone
Speaker 3: density if you're not counteracting it with diet and exercise
Speaker 3: and grounding, grounding, stay connected.
Speaker 4: To the earth.
Speaker 1: How do you do that?
Speaker 4: Take your shoes off and just you still barefoot? Eric Beney, See,
Speaker 4: I told you some truth to that shit. There is true.
Speaker 4: I might say a couple of squear words if I
Speaker 4: stub my toe, but I mean, yeah, no, but I
Speaker 4: mean there's undeniable scientific evidence that if you have skin
Speaker 4: to skin contact with the soil, the earth, the sand,
Speaker 4: it lowers the inflammation in your body and it promotes
Speaker 4: a general well being.
Speaker 1: And where do you do Where do you go out
Speaker 1: at home? I guess right in the backyard.
Speaker 3: Are you having your coffee in the morning, take your
Speaker 3: well I get in la. You can do it year round.
Speaker 3: I take my shoes off and I drink my coffee
Speaker 3: outside in the backyard barefoot foot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's so funny. I started golfing a
Speaker 1: few years ago and I went to golf maybe a
Speaker 1: year ago with someone and he was barefoot the whole time.
Speaker 1: And I was kind of like making fun of him.
Speaker 4: And did he tell you why?
Speaker 1: He just said, there's only some places that use, only
Speaker 1: a few places in the world that you can do it,
Speaker 1: so he chose to do it. We were I think
Speaker 1: we were in the Bahamas and he was golfing barefoot,
Speaker 1: and we were just joking. We were like teasing. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, funny, but I really thought I could try that.
Speaker 1: There might be something to that.
Speaker 4: You should.
Speaker 1: Now you're making me really want to ship there really is.
Speaker 4: There really is, like peer reviewed scientific evidence to back
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 1: All right, sold, we have some features that we have
Speaker 1: to do with you while you're here.
Speaker 4: Eric, Oh, what I gotta do?
Speaker 1: I gotta dance, Yes, you gotta dance. You're gonna sing? Mmmm. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 4: That's it.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a voice not our voicenote segment.
Speaker 4: Who do we have Eddie here?
Speaker 2: I'm a girl, dad, My thirteen year old girl just
Speaker 2: started dating. I'm already having nine minions about it. But
Speaker 2: I've been having this thought specifically about her bringing home
Speaker 2: a man, him cheating on her, and then having it
Speaker 2: with that situation like her wanting to take him back
Speaker 2: as something. What do you think I should say in
Speaker 2: that situation? What do you think I should do if
Speaker 2: my baby girl brings home a man who cheats on
Speaker 2: her and then wants to stay with him?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's a very specific question.
Speaker 4: That is very very specific, And there's a couple issues
Speaker 4: about the question. You're thirteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1: She shouldn't be dating at all.
Speaker 4: She should hell fuck no, what did.
Speaker 1: They start to date? I don't think he said she was.
Speaker 1: I think he said he has a fear of that
Speaker 1: this would happen. Okay, then good.
Speaker 4: Here's the question.
Speaker 3: You ain't got shit to worry about till she's sixteen
Speaker 3: and then what and then if she brings home a
Speaker 3: guy who cheats.
Speaker 1: On her, yeah, or is a bad guy.
Speaker 4: Then you have until.
Speaker 3: One to she's sixteen years old to be the representation
Speaker 3: of the kind of guy you want her to bring home.
Speaker 3: And one or two bad ones might slip through, because
Speaker 3: that is definitely not a fail safe plan there and
Speaker 3: when that happens, you have until one until sixteen years
Speaker 3: old to have the kind of relationship with your daughter
Speaker 3: where she's going to come to you and talk to
Speaker 3: you about what she's going through. You are not going
Speaker 3: to be able to control a sixteen year old daughter.
Speaker 4: She's going to have.
Speaker 3: First of all, she's female, so she's going to have
Speaker 3: all kinds of ways to make you think she's doing
Speaker 3: what you asked her to do, but she ain't really
Speaker 3: going to be doing it. So you, as much as
Speaker 3: you would like to be the absolute control of that situation.
Speaker 4: He's not going to be. So he's got time to
Speaker 4: arm her with love.
Speaker 1: Do you have that relationship with your kids?
Speaker 4: I'd imagine yeah, And I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: You know, we've got a couple more years to go
Speaker 3: with Lucia. I've got four or five more years with Luna,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to every day have a better relationship
Speaker 3: in that regard with my daughter's most important, most important
Speaker 3: people in my life.
Speaker 1: You're oldest, is how old?
Speaker 4: Are thirty four?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in a she's in a beautiful relationship. And yeah,
Speaker 3: thank god, Yeah I'm not I'm not worried about her.
Speaker 3: But you know, all right, Okay, this is fun.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a good dad. Are you a
Speaker 1: good dad?
Speaker 4: Again? Like? I think so? But I'm trying. I don't
Speaker 4: want to say because if I tell you, yes, I'm
Speaker 4: a good dad, it's like I could. I feel like
Speaker 4: I could do better. How I think, Well, when I
Speaker 4: look at my wife and how incredibly attentive and like
Speaker 4: she is with them in every aspect of their life feeling,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, how do you keep track of all
Speaker 4: of that stuff?
Speaker 3: And then I'm trying to keep the income coming into
Speaker 3: the situation, and it's like, so I I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm a good dad who's always trying to find ways
Speaker 3: to be a better dad.
Speaker 1: It's probably taught you a lot right about life and woo.
Speaker 4: Shondo.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's a poetic justice from God. It's
Speaker 4: like all daughters for you, bro. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But they also say they give you the kids. They say,
Speaker 1: God gives you the kids that you need, Yeah, to
Speaker 1: become the verb, to become who you're supposed to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. You know what I'm saying, It's true.
Speaker 4: Agree with that.
Speaker 1: I feel like that too my kids. Yeah, they get
Speaker 1: you there because because you're trying to be the best
Speaker 1: version of you, it's not trying to be so they're
Speaker 1: forcing you to be a better version of yourself simply
Speaker 1: by just existing.
Speaker 4: And simply by them being existing. By them existing, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you are having to underscore lessons that you've learned and
Speaker 4: things like as you're teaching them things you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think I needed to hear that too.
Speaker 1: Has anybody ever given you good parenting advice?
Speaker 3: The best parenting advice is try to share as share
Speaker 3: as much of your life with your children as age
Speaker 3: appropriately as you can during their journey of growing up,
Speaker 3: so that it's very natural for them. Once they get
Speaker 3: to that sixteen, it'll be like, I guess what happened?
Speaker 3: You know, I won't feel like such a weird thing
Speaker 3: for them.
Speaker 1: Do you do that with your kids? Do do?
Speaker 4: I tried?
Speaker 1: You tried to?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: I agree? I agree? Good good, good good advice. Childhood. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to those some I r L questions. We
Speaker 1: have an IRL bowl. Let me just go through this
Speaker 1: real quick. You okay, over there. I think you were
Speaker 1: wonderful today.
Speaker 4: You think so?
Speaker 1: Do not feel like that? Tell me? Tell me now,
Speaker 1: I'll give.
Speaker 4: You a different like what I feel like I was?
Speaker 4: I think so I wasn't an asshole enough?
Speaker 1: Why would you be an asshole? Are you an asshole? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: I don't think what would make you like, what would
Speaker 1: happen in your day that would make hm? It's funny
Speaker 1: because when I ask people questions, I go through this
Speaker 1: thing in my mind where I want to can I
Speaker 1: answer that? So I was going to ask you what
Speaker 1: were you really? Sometimes yes, especially if it's like a
Speaker 1: question like that that I just think on the spot.
Speaker 1: It's almost like I try to be like, is that
Speaker 1: a fair question to ask? Could you answer that in
Speaker 1: your own fair questions? So if I say to you,
Speaker 1: what would make you be an asshole in your day?
Speaker 1: Then I'm saying to myself what would make me? And
Speaker 1: I was I was a little bit of an asshole yesterday?
Speaker 4: I think what would make me? And I first, why
Speaker 4: were you an asshole yesterday?
Speaker 1: I was really overwhelmed with life yesterday, just personal shit, work, ship,
Speaker 1: it too much on my plate. Hadn't had five minutes
Speaker 1: to just do don't.
Speaker 4: Make anybody an asshole? And that was gonna be my answer.
Speaker 1: Well, that was what it was. It still shouldn't be
Speaker 1: an asshole because it's not anybody else's fault.
Speaker 4: Asshole maybe is an extreme word an individual of low patients.
Speaker 1: Extreme?
Speaker 4: Yeah, extremely, That's about.
Speaker 3: As close as I'll get to an asshole if it's
Speaker 3: like I've just there have been a couple letdowns in
Speaker 3: the day. Something didn't go the right way. I didn't eat,
Speaker 3: I forgot to do some ship, which I'm always forgetting
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 4: Shit.
Speaker 1: What level of assholary are we talking about? Though?
Speaker 4: Probably like can we can? Can we wrap it up?
Speaker 4: Because I gotta go.
Speaker 1: That's fad. Yeah, that's not I mean, that's not the worst.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like I definitely ucked this ship. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm out of here. It's not like what did Trump do?
Speaker 4: He just like all you gotta do to Trump is
Speaker 4: like ask him an actual question and he's that's a
Speaker 4: rude question. That's just a that's why you're a despicable person.
Speaker 4: That's an asshole.
Speaker 1: Well, he's an asshole from the gate out the gate.
Speaker 4: He's not like a long from a long line of assholes,
Speaker 4: a line.
Speaker 1: Of assholes In all this commentary you've been making, Have
Speaker 1: you heard from anyone? Have you Have you gotten any
Speaker 1: of those weird calls?
Speaker 4: I didn't get weird calls, but I did get a
Speaker 4: call from Stevie wonder, Oh can you share? I can
Speaker 4: only share because he said I could.
Speaker 1: Okay, have you shared this before. No, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: First of all, Stevie Wonder, see, one of our greatest nash.
Speaker 4: Natural Trust is the most I mean, I don't even
Speaker 4: got to say shit, he's the most beautiful, talented, iconic.
Speaker 4: You know, you don't got it, but.
Speaker 1: You him national treasure.
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing that I've discovered in my career.
Speaker 3: People like that, people who.
Speaker 4: Just seem as though their talent exceeds human and expectation.
Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder, Quincy Jones, Prince. When you meet these people,
Speaker 4: in my experience, they always seem to be the most
Speaker 4: attentive and they make you feel like when they're talking
Speaker 4: to you, you're the only person in the world, and it's.
Speaker 1: Just like, really, okay, well I want to know how
Speaker 1: you think of but you know, well, tell me about this.
Speaker 2: You know what is that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is that that they do? Why do you think
Speaker 1: they do that?
Speaker 4: I think it's just they are so successful because in
Speaker 4: any given moment, they are so present And it's not
Speaker 4: just that I think it's love. I think they have
Speaker 4: so much. You can't be a conduit for that much.
Speaker 3: Creativity and power if there's just not a whole lot
Speaker 3: of love in your being. Now you may have your
Speaker 3: own personal challenges challenges, but it's all packaged in love
Speaker 3: and trying to become a better person.
Speaker 1: God wouldn't give you a gift that strong, exactly if
Speaker 1: there was no love in there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Stevie, I've been blessed in my life to say
Speaker 3: that he is somebody who I can call and talk to.
Speaker 3: I still pinch myself with that realization. But he's just
Speaker 3: a being of love. He called me, well, actually, my
Speaker 3: wife told me Stevie's going to call you about four o'clock. Like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, what I do?
Speaker 1: Wait, has Stevie have you ever gotten that call from No?
Speaker 4: I've never gotten this call from Stevie.
Speaker 1: H No, just like if you've done something that's like
Speaker 1: call you with the cell.
Speaker 4: No, but there's something about tone.
Speaker 1: Okay, now you know your wife's stone. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So actually I was supposed to call him.
Speaker 3: So I called him, and basically where he was coming
Speaker 3: from was he seeing some of the posts.
Speaker 4: And his sentiment was like, Eric, look my young brother.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: We're all angry and disheartened, but I fear that he
Speaker 3: was basically saying, you coming on a little hard and
Speaker 3: I'm worried about how crazy some of these motherfuckers are
Speaker 3: out there, not his words mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're paraphrasing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was like, those who are on the side of
Speaker 3: that negativity, they are crazy motherfuckers, and why don't you
Speaker 3: put and put all of that anger into music. So
Speaker 3: he was coming to me as like the older uncle brother,
Speaker 3: like I don't want you to get out there and
Speaker 3: somebody do some stupid shit to you because it's something
Speaker 3: you said. And then and then, and then two days later,
Speaker 3: I went into the studio and wrote die Pedal.
Speaker 1: So where is that song?
Speaker 3: Where that is a song I never officially released, but
Speaker 3: I was just in the studio one day, angry and
Speaker 3: thinking about what Stevie said, put it in music. Huh,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna write die Pedal and maybe I'll
Speaker 3: throw it on the album.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know they might very very well for you already
Speaker 3: very well maybe them, But I mean I was I
Speaker 3: was so grateful for the call, and I think I really,
Speaker 3: I really took it to heart. And I won't say
Speaker 3: that it made me change what I say, but maybe
Speaker 3: I think about how I say it sometime.
Speaker 1: That makes sense because when you think of Stevie, you know,
Speaker 1: he's the loves in need of love today.
Speaker 4: He's but not only that, so many generations of this
Speaker 4: same movement he's seen and he's seen some of the
Speaker 4: soldiers get taken out.
Speaker 1: Not that.
Speaker 3: Please, I'm not saying I'm a soldier and I don't
Speaker 3: think he would. Well, I guess in some ways I am,
Speaker 3: and he wasn't. I don't know, maybe he was. But
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for the conversation.
Speaker 1: Did shift anything in you or no? Because you haven't
Speaker 1: really slowed up that much slowed up. But I.
Speaker 3: That thought is conscious in my head every time, like
Speaker 3: I be like, okay, curb your rage.
Speaker 4: Curb your rage.
Speaker 3: So I'll be thinking about oh so long, I'll be
Speaker 3: thinking about Stevie.
Speaker 4: Now that's really going to post.
Speaker 1: So Stevie he's a bucket list guest for me on
Speaker 1: the pod.
Speaker 3: He is a beautiful, godlike soul because he's all about
Speaker 3: I care for you, I care for this world.
Speaker 4: I want we. He is the message of who's going
Speaker 4: to save us.
Speaker 3: It's like we all need to collectively join our positive
Speaker 3: energy if we're ever going to overcome the negative forces
Speaker 3: of this world. And his message is do it without
Speaker 3: the rage, but do it from a place of love.
Speaker 1: That's Steedie beautiful.
Speaker 4: But shit, I got too much James Baldwin ever you.
Speaker 1: Though you're more Malcolm than I think so than Martin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be like, fuck them motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Man, have you ever made a call like that to
Speaker 1: put somebody onto something or to like do you ever
Speaker 1: make those calls? Because I'm sure there's people that look
Speaker 1: to you. You'd owe g to some of these singers SRV.
Speaker 4: I try to encourage I tried to encourage people to.
Speaker 3: Just speak, because what I'm hearing often is people will
Speaker 3: come up to me and they will just say, man,
Speaker 3: I so appreciate what you're doing when and my response
Speaker 3: is like, thank you, thank you, Please, I invite.
Speaker 4: You to voice join me, join me. Yeah and yeah.
Speaker 4: I laughed when you asked me the question because I
Speaker 4: thought about the time I met Dick Gregory, Oh, which
Speaker 4: did not go well.
Speaker 1: Why what happened?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: Where was give it to me? Tell me that Dick
Speaker 1: Gregory story was I was in.
Speaker 3: DC and it was Obama's inauguration and I just wanted
Speaker 3: to be there for this historic event. And then after
Speaker 3: the inauguration, there's all kinds of little pockets of things happening.
Speaker 4: And I was at some place I don't remember where
Speaker 4: I was, but somebody said, hey, Dick Gregory's back there,
Speaker 4: and there's about thirty people back there, and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, excuse me, I want to I want to
Speaker 4: go meet Dick Gregory. And when I walked back, I
Speaker 4: quietly like stood at the back of the room and
Speaker 4: he was commanding the people, as Dick Gregory does, and
Speaker 4: he was just saying how he was talking about his
Speaker 4: his his his regimen of health. And he was basically saying,
Speaker 4: I don't I don't eat ship this. I drink water
Speaker 4: because because food is toxic, I don't eat. I don't
Speaker 4: eat nothing. I don't never eat and and people are
Speaker 4: like wow, and and and when there was a break
Speaker 4: have you ever met Dick Gregor? No?
Speaker 6: Never.
Speaker 4: And when there was a break in the conversation, I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, miss mister Gregor, I just want to
Speaker 4: say it's so nice to meet you. But I mean
Speaker 4: there must be something that you eat. Big mistake, big mistake.
Speaker 4: It was like a pause.
Speaker 8: He looked at me, this nigga trying to tell me
Speaker 8: what I said. I was like, oh my god, nigga,
Speaker 8: I said, I don't eat these young niggas. Don't listen
Speaker 8: to niggas.
Speaker 4: Oh he caught you young though, he called you I
Speaker 4: look pretty young. I guess when was Obama? No, that
Speaker 4: was Jesus, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'll just do a number out of it. So wow,
Speaker 1: I was like, And that's how it ended. He didn't
Speaker 1: laugh and say it's there was no laugh.
Speaker 4: That's that's Dick Gregor.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, no laughing. Yeah, I said, I don't eat ship, nigga.
Speaker 1: So how does that end? You can't good meeting?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 6: That ended?
Speaker 4: Do you ever see the the meme of Homer and
Speaker 4: the and the bush, the back to the bushes?
Speaker 6: That was it?
Speaker 1: Back to the bushes?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I actually said, I just like faded
Speaker 4: into it.
Speaker 1: It's really funny.
Speaker 4: It wasn't at the time.
Speaker 1: No, I bet, I really, I bet it wasn't. All right.
Speaker 4: I r L bowl, Oh ship, I r L bowl.
Speaker 1: There was a bowl.
Speaker 4: What does it habit that you were proud of? What
Speaker 4: is it habit that you are trying to breathe.
Speaker 1: In real life?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, give it to me.
Speaker 3: So the habit that I am most proud of is
Speaker 3: when I when I make the decision, when I made
Speaker 3: the decision to take care of my health, I can
Speaker 3: be pretty. I can stick to that pretty with you know,
Speaker 3: consistency in varying degrees about five years ago. You know
Speaker 3: some things It's taken me the last couple of years
Speaker 3: to like just lock into like a workout, a cutout, alcohol,
Speaker 3: I eat.
Speaker 1: Right, what's a habit inspiring to me? Because that means
Speaker 1: I could go do that today?
Speaker 4: You absolutely can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's inspiring. I do take care of myself in
Speaker 1: certain ways, but I could do a lot of things
Speaker 1: a lot better. So you made me feel like from
Speaker 1: now to five years from now, I could really make
Speaker 1: a significant.
Speaker 4: That makes such Okay, you don't got to you don't
Speaker 4: gotta put this on camera. But do you drink? I do? Yeah,
Speaker 4: So I know it's difficult because.
Speaker 3: Like a couple of years, like maybe three years ago,
Speaker 3: I would have to have like two shots of Scotch.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not a drinker like that. I drink.
Speaker 1: I enjoy a cocktail. That means I have one or
Speaker 1: two atten maybe twice a week. Yeah, see once or
Speaker 1: twice a week, sometimes one sometimes twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna have three or four anything like that, or
Speaker 1: shots I would want to do, but there's always sugar,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's alcohol and the sugar together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not good.
Speaker 1: I enjoy.
Speaker 4: But I'm not telling nobody what to do. I'm just
Speaker 4: telling you what works.
Speaker 1: From You just were telling me, give me the thing.
Speaker 1: You were just dropping the jewels on me. I gotta
Speaker 1: st me that tell me what I need to do.
Speaker 7: Some five years when I turned sixty, I so you
Speaker 7: look incredible, well, thank you. With with alcohol, even two
Speaker 7: drinks a week, you it will make your skin start
Speaker 7: to age sooner than you should be.
Speaker 3: But if you stop, you could reverse it. Alcohol attacks
Speaker 3: every system within your body, you know, from how your
Speaker 3: your brain synapses, to your digestion, to how your to
Speaker 3: your rim sleep, to your heart, to your how youthful
Speaker 3: you look, to your energy level everything. Like if you
Speaker 3: cut out like if it is a neurotoxin, if you
Speaker 3: cut out alcohol, you will find.
Speaker 4: Like once you stop that habit, you will notice like
Speaker 4: in a month it's like, wow, I slept solid through
Speaker 4: the night. You know, in a month I did, and
Speaker 4: it's like wow, I you know I have more energy
Speaker 4: so anyway, that's my speka.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it all right. So doesn't mean no
Speaker 1: fun no, no, no, well you need fun to have alcohol,
Speaker 1: no substances. No, I just just no, I can have fun.
Speaker 1: I meant no other fun substances. No, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no micro dosing or there's no weed or there's no nothing.
Speaker 4: No, I don't smoke.
Speaker 1: So clean, completely clean and clean eating.
Speaker 4: Yeah m hmm yeah, and you you will your body
Speaker 4: will thank you.
Speaker 1: For Itkay, we're going to say we're gonna try it.
Speaker 4: Okay, what's a try.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a month and.
Speaker 4: See you wait, shake my hand on that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a month. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: It's been again with you, okay, fine, it's been on
Speaker 1: my spirit anyway. So the fact that you're telling me
Speaker 1: that right now, I'm gonna try.
Speaker 2: It not to.
Speaker 1: Here this pokesman millboard. So okay, I'm gonna try it done.
Speaker 4: What's a habit here?
Speaker 3: Trying to break as consistent I am, and and regiment
Speaker 3: that I can be with the hell stuff. I can
Speaker 3: be kind of an airhead with scheduling, you know, making
Speaker 3: sure that they probably back there laughing at me doing
Speaker 3: side eyes my people, because it's like Eric is the worst.
Speaker 4: Eric is supposed to be on this fucking zoom. Where
Speaker 4: are you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: That's right? You know so I'm a bit of a mess.
Speaker 1: You're trying to be better there, I'm trying to be better.
Speaker 4: I'm a bit of a mess.
Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna run through a couple before we
Speaker 1: let you go.
Speaker 4: So if he wasn't drinking, you wouldn't be coughing.
Speaker 1: You think that's what it was. It was the mamosa
Speaker 1: that I have right right, I had a mamosa this morning.
Speaker 1: See terrible, that's terrible. I think I'm okay, we're about
Speaker 1: to wrap anyway. Let me just do this quick. In
Speaker 1: real life, in real life, when of you are your happiest?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: In real life? I am at my happiest when I'm
Speaker 4: with my kids playing a game, or watching them laugh
Speaker 4: or making them crack up laughing or something like that.
Speaker 1: Well, in real life, when was the last time you cried?
Speaker 1: Could be sadness, could be gratitude, could be joy?
Speaker 4: The last time I cried? A week and a week ago,
Speaker 4: my daughter Luna graduated from sixth grade and she gave
Speaker 4: a speech, and it wrecked me. What do you mean,
Speaker 4: it just it just wrecked me. I'll see if I
Speaker 4: if I even talk about it, I might start.
Speaker 1: Talked about how.
Speaker 4: How much, how afraid she was. She remembers being how
Speaker 4: afraid she was the first time she came to that school,
Speaker 4: and the confidence that it instilled in her. And then
Speaker 4: she got to Mama and daddy. Oh my god, you're
Speaker 4: gonna make me emotional. She said that, you know, as
Speaker 4: I said, uh, Manuela is just an incredibly attentive and
Speaker 4: supportive in every detail she has. And she thanked her
Speaker 4: mother for just holding her life together.
Speaker 3: And then she thanked me for every because I dropped
Speaker 3: them off to school in the morning. She said, Daddy,
Speaker 3: every day you tell me that you love me, and
Speaker 3: you tell me that my light never never uh dim
Speaker 3: the light that's shining so bright.
Speaker 4: I was. I was done. I was done. I was
Speaker 4: trying to I was trying to hold it together.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: It was Yeah, it was. It was like, that was
Speaker 4: the last time I cried.
Speaker 1: That's a good cry. That's a good cry. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: already did self care. Real what's your real life guilty pleasure?
Speaker 4: M M, my real life guilty pleasure is probably watching
Speaker 4: uh Karen's getting caught by the police on social media.
Speaker 4: I would watch I watched that ship forever.
Speaker 3: I love when the police just catch people like doing
Speaker 3: wrong ship and then they got an attitude. I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I'll look up and it'll be like, damn, am I
Speaker 3: gonna watching this ship for an hour and a half?
Speaker 1: When do you find such content? Where is this anywhere?
Speaker 1: It knows you?
Speaker 4: It'll be like, oh, this nigga watched like twelve at
Speaker 4: these yesterday. I'm gonna send them thirty. And I just
Speaker 4: love watching Karen's get handcuffs put on them.
Speaker 1: It's the best. It's really funny. What is your superpower
Speaker 1: your real life superpower?
Speaker 4: My superpower is that creatively, I think I can fucking
Speaker 4: do anything.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I I've never taken a music lesson.
Speaker 3: I wrote a short story that turned into a TV show.
Speaker 3: I'm writing a book right now. I just finished the manuscript.
Speaker 4: It's a mid grade fantasy adventure. Oh yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 4: then you'll.
Speaker 1: Do then you'll do a memoir at some point. What
Speaker 1: do we title it? Lessons and the headlines or the
Speaker 1: lessons behind the headlines?
Speaker 4: We took I was good yeah, way it rolled off
Speaker 4: so easy. Yeah, that lessons and the headlines, I.
Speaker 1: Think something like that. I'm gonna rewind the tape back
Speaker 1: and said it to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe maybe at some point a memoir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't do it. I want to.
Speaker 4: I want to accomplish a little bit more ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's left on the bucket list for you?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I want to write a series of novels. I'm working
Speaker 3: on launching another like film company with a friend. I
Speaker 3: want to get that off the ground. Good uh ship
Speaker 3: by next week, It'll probably be two more things.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna keep going, right. How often do you
Speaker 1: think about your legacy?
Speaker 4: Never? No, I don't think about it because because I
Speaker 4: mean to think about the legacy means to start thinking about,
Speaker 4: all right, it's all done. How will they remember me?
Speaker 4: It's like I don't think about that ship? You know,
Speaker 4: I got too much shit?
Speaker 1: Du Yeah, but do you think about I don't know
Speaker 1: what you want people to learn from you?
Speaker 4: Orf? Like even I think about that? Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: about that. I hope I hope that the good, bad,
Speaker 4: and indifferent is.
Speaker 3: Not only like teaching me lessons, but I hope I'm
Speaker 3: I'm I'm inadvertently teaching other people lessons too.
Speaker 1: And what are you most proud of? We talked about
Speaker 1: all the ups and downs. I don't mean, I don't
Speaker 1: mean just like are well I guess you said your kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like such a cliche answer, but everything
Speaker 3: else pales in comparison when I see what they can do,
Speaker 3: and I see like like like India, Lucia and Luna,
Speaker 3: they are just so talented, like they can they kind
Speaker 3: of have that me thing where it's like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: think I think I'm going to start doing aerial dancing,
Speaker 3: or I think I'm gonna I think I'm going to
Speaker 3: try out for this play and then they get the
Speaker 3: lead or excuse.
Speaker 1: You created a world for them where they could think
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's beautiful, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But about you, that's really what the question was. What
Speaker 1: are you most proud of about yourself?
Speaker 3: That I'm always willing to learn and grow and I'm
Speaker 3: always willing to admit when I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: I guess, And I smell good.
Speaker 1: Good, I smell good naturally, and I look good.
Speaker 4: Remember that, James Brown.
Speaker 1: My last questions in the Bolts, my favorite question in
Speaker 1: the I R L Bowl, You got a text right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was from God.
Speaker 4: God. God would have text you right God a black God?
Speaker 1: You're God?
Speaker 4: Okay? Hey Shondo? All right? Is that?
Speaker 6: What is that?
Speaker 1: What you call him?
Speaker 4: Okay, let's call him Shondo.
Speaker 1: If God would have text you right now, what would
Speaker 1: it say?
Speaker 2: WHOA?
Speaker 4: Never got that question before? Angie? Where'd you get that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We came up with it, and I
Speaker 1: don't know early in the pod. It just came up.
Speaker 1: I think it. It just says a lot about what
Speaker 1: you truly care about, you know, like what's truly really
Speaker 1: important to you today? If the text came today, like
Speaker 1: what would it say?
Speaker 4: I would think that God would tell me.
Speaker 1: To shit muslump, dude, think about it. You don't have
Speaker 1: to rush it. I was just thinking, in true fashion
Speaker 1: of me making sure I can answer a question. I
Speaker 1: think my text today would probably it would be to
Speaker 1: the effect that something about my text today would be
Speaker 1: like you did great because you trusted me. Mmm, so
Speaker 1: just keep doing that.
Speaker 3: I think my idea of God is like somebody who
Speaker 3: a being who is is loving and encouraging, as opposed
Speaker 3: to like First Testament type shit.
Speaker 1: H you're not a religious guy.
Speaker 4: No spiritual No, absolutely, I do believe in God. I
Speaker 4: believe in the power of love and positivity, and I
Speaker 4: think negativity is a very powerful evil force. I think
Speaker 4: that God would say something to me like I love you,
Speaker 4: but he would probably say something that I would understand,
Speaker 4: like I love you, but even more, and I would
Speaker 4: know exactly what he meant.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: That means like all the positive all the positivity I'm
Speaker 3: trying to uh grow from and speak on, Like, do
Speaker 3: it even more? Like all of the projects that you're
Speaker 3: working on that you think can help or uplift put
Speaker 3: more into it. You know, all of the energy that
Speaker 3: you spend with your children where you're nurturing them and
Speaker 3: and and teaching them to respect and love themselves and
Speaker 3: realize that they can do anything.
Speaker 4: Do that even more. I think it'd be something like that,
Speaker 4: do more, do more? That's so you think?
Speaker 1: So yeah you do?
Speaker 4: How so.
Speaker 1: Look at your whole life, look at your whole career.
Speaker 1: How can I be better? How can I do more?
Speaker 1: How can I do a new label? How can I
Speaker 1: do new souls?
Speaker 4: How can I do If you didn't say that I
Speaker 4: love you first, I would have been like and and
Speaker 4: just got the just do more. I've been like, damn,
Speaker 4: I'm fucking up. Yeah, but if he was like, I
Speaker 4: love you, just do a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're not doing enough?
Speaker 4: Never? Life?
Speaker 1: Right it?
Speaker 4: What's up? This is Steric Benett in real life.
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