1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Did you ever get lost in that though? Did it 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: ever define you? 3 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 2: Like? 4 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, for a while I felt defined by it until 5 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: I started to redefine what it was to take accountability, 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 3: because accountability isn't just saying I fucked up I did this. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: Accountability is saying I fucked up, I did this. But 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: let me just try to take full accountability for the 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: mistakes that I made, regardless of the reasons why I 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: did them, and then let me try to learn from 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: those mistakes. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for watching guys. Today's episode is brought to 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: you by Boosmos. Okay, we got a music icon in 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: the building today. Who has been Rockinstace, the nineteen. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: Hundreds Woo eighteen hundred. 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Chart topping hit maker. Many would say, an R and 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: B sex symbol. 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: Let's say such a thing. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Many people, including Essence in twenty ten, they said that 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: also one of the most outspoken and funny artists that 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: you can follow social media right now. I said this 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: to him when he walked in. One of my favorite 23 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: things is watching the many incarnations of Eric Bennet and 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: how you have navigated and how you are here now 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: and how you took a did you take a city 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: bike over here? 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: Did always I'll get New York and I'll just hop 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: on the bike. 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like you've been riding the wave 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: of your career and your life in that type of 31 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: way from the outside. I don't know from the inside, 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: but I feel like there's been so many times that 33 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: you're this guy. Why is my phone? Did I not 34 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: shut it off? 35 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: Shut up people texting me? You said, ooh, ask Eric? 36 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Did ask Eric? 37 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: No? 38 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: I feel like you came in the game and you were. 39 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Like a certain thing. 40 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: What was the thing? 41 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: It was? 42 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: It was a barefoot bohemian smelling like a pack of incense. 43 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: Neo so I don't like that time. 44 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: I know you hate neil so artists. 45 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: That's what I was. 46 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: And how did you feel in that box? 47 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 4: I felt like some of it was kind of true, 48 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: because I feel like incenses. You enjoy some incense. And 49 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: I was I was a holistic person, but I think my. 50 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: My personality was closer to that of like an Oakland, 51 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: California person, because in Oakland they'll be into the chakras 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: and the instance, but they'll be like, you look at 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: me the wrong way, you get cut my fucker, don't 54 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: get this. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 4: So I think I was more of a mixture of that, but. 56 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: I remember, I remember very distinctly, and I was also 57 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: I have always been this goofy personality that people see online. 58 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: But I remember specifically in a publicity meeting at A 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: and not A and R. But when I was first 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: signed to Warner Brothers and me always doing voices and 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: cracking jokes and being goofy. I remember having this conversation, 62 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: we're marketing you as like this sexy, smooth like. 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 4: In public in and interviews just toned down that goofy shit. 64 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: And so did they say those words basically yes, And 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 4: it kind of that kind of stuck, making me feel like, Okay, 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 4: if I want this to work, I'm gonna let this 67 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: part of myself show, but maybe hold back to goofy Milwaukee. 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Dude, Oh that doesn't sound fun. 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: It wasn't un fun. 70 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: It just didn't feel one hundred percent authentic, you know. 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: But I think once you get to a certain age, 72 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: you stop considering what you are supposed to look like 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: and then you just start being what you are. And 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: and then that was right around the time that I 75 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: discovered like TikTok and instant and shit. 76 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: Oh, so this is a recent kind of well, the 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: discovery of being authentic isn't recent, but the introduction to 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: that part of myself to the world public is recent. 79 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: Yes, because that was like, like, I don't know what 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: I've been on TikTok, like for not even four years, 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: I don't even know something. 82 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: It feels in modern times, it feels very recent. 83 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: It feels very and relatively speaking, in my career, it 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: has been recent. 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: And in the first comments were like, wait, hold up, 86 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: is this barefoot Eric Breney? 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: Did he just say nigga? 88 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: What you know? 89 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: So it's it was a lot of that, but yeah, 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: it was a relief to be able to of course 91 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: it is, and it always is when you feel like 92 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: what any situation you're in, if you feel like you're 93 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: not being completely authentic, when you finally are, it feels 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: so good. And then to have people affirm that. 95 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: Like, where the fuck was this dude? 96 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: We like him? 97 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: We like him, like y'all like me this whole time? 98 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: You mean you like me the whole time. So I've 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: been right here, I go right, I've been right here. 100 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: Trying to be mister smooth, suave, and shit, it's not really. 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: Mean, does it, does it? 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: Ever? 103 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: Like if you look like old. 104 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes I look at old, old photo shoots and I 105 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: was like, oh man, look at me. I'm trying to 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: do what they call it today, the looks maxing right there. 107 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm trying to do the blue steel in that picture. 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: You know, it worked for some You got you on 109 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: some of the sexiest man lists. 110 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: We got the rent paid for a little while. 111 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: It got it got, it got the ladies going. It 112 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: got the ladies going. And you were you know, you 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: were a singer. You probably served you in some type 114 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: of way. Yeah, who were you before that? Though? Like 115 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: who were you? 116 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: The nerd? The nerd like in school and like I 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: was the reading science fiction, sketching comic book stuff, doing. 118 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: Art, singing, listen. 119 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: Singing, Yeah, singing, But singing to me was such a 120 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 4: what did I want to say? 121 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: Singing to me was such a reflex like like like 122 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: like like a visceral thing, like like something I didn't 123 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: even have to think about, So I didn't even think 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: about It's interesting, I don't know how to put it. 125 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: I didn't even think about singing something that. 126 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: I did as an interest as much as it was 127 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: like just who you are? 128 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: Just what it? 129 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like just like you got two years 130 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: it's like, oh shit, Yeah, singing is just. 131 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: Part of me your whole life. Yeah, pretty much. 132 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: Because my I'm the youngest in this group of super 133 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: musical siblings and uh, father and mom just loved music 134 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: and had their own distinctive music collections. 135 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: And all my siblings sang. We sang in harmony, we 136 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: played instruments. 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: We that's what That's what home life was for me, 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: to the point where I thought everybody's family was like this, 139 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: you know, just like on Sunday everybody ate dinner. 140 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: I thought everybody like harmonized and shit, and it was 141 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: like and then I remember. 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: Being surprised in school when it's music time how many 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: people had no sense of pitch? 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Well do you like? 145 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like seven, you know when the kids around you, Yeah, 146 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: why why are you two whole steps above the key 147 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: of the song, Like like are you deaf? And so 148 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm thinking this kid is maybe this kid is deaf. 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: So it's wrong. 150 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, something's wrong with you because it was so like anyway, 151 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: but yeah, music has just been been me. 152 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: It's just who you are. 153 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: It took a minute for me to realize, oh, maybe 155 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: I could do a career this, But again, it was 156 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: weird because to me, it was just like walking. 157 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: It's like, what am I going to do? Make pay 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: me for this? 159 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: People would pay me to just like sing and shit. 160 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: And it wasn't until puberty when I realized. 161 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: Girls like this, Oh my god. 162 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: And then, like I said, I was just like little 163 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: nerdy dude who was always doing something that the rest 164 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: of the guys weren't doing. So and then when I 165 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: was like, nobody really knew I could sing, and I 166 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: never really volunteered for any solos or thing until it 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: was like seventh grade and I was like, fuck it, 168 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: let me enter this talent show and I sang like 169 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: Lionel Richie's. 170 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: Truly who I brought the house down? 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Is there a video of that anywhere? 172 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: I hope so. But you know, we were lucky to 173 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: have electricity back then. 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Yea video. You don't have a video of it. But 175 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: I remember there. 176 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: Was this girl, Vicky Stanton. 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Where is she? 178 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: I have no fucking clue, but I remember back before 179 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: I sang truly, Vicky did not. I was. 180 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: I was just like, oh that's Eric. He's like a 181 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: little weird, little nerd guy. And I'd be like I 182 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: didn't even know how to talk to Vicky when I 183 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: sang truly. The next day, Vicky was at my locker 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: with her eyes a Google eyed, and I was like, 185 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: got her. I think I got some shit right here, right. 186 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: So I'm always surprised how many people, how many men 187 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: have launched a. 188 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: Career yeah based on Yeah, women that testosterone to run 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: your brain. 190 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: There's so many of you that I've interviewed, and I'm thinking, oh, 191 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: it must because you know their parent of this. 192 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 4: There was a girl. 193 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: It was a girl, And I got so many girls. 194 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 5: I thought, this's going to be my life right right right, 195 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 5: So funny, but especially at that time when you're at 196 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 5: that twelve thirteen years old, when you're so nerdy and 197 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 5: insecure and you don't know how to talk to people, 198 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 5: and then you discover this almost like superpower you have 199 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: and it's like, oh shit, I will. 200 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: Wield this sword with responsibility. So it was that kind 201 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: of vibe. It was like, Oh, this is some powerful 202 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: shit I got. 203 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: So what were you doing with that powerful shit? At 204 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: the age of past forward ten years to eighteen twenty. 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: At eighteen twenty and again, as much as the whole 206 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: Vicky Stanton story and the wielding the power of the 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: voice and all that shit. 208 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: I never really. 209 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: Put two feet down, two feet down and said my 210 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: career is going to be music, because, you know, for 211 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: a bunch of reasons. I think it was part of 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: that ingrained black mom and dad who were like, you've 213 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: got to go to college and okay, music, yeah, yeah, yeah, 214 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: but you got to have a solid degree. 215 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: And even your parents, I'm surprised, yes, music lovers. 216 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: Well, my father, mainly my dad. 217 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: He was like this frustrated, cultured dude who became a 218 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: policeman and a detective out of necessity in Milwaukee. But 219 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: he was really cultured and he wanted more for us. 220 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: And oddly enough, I told my dad, like, right before 221 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: I graduated high school, I was like, Dad, I think 222 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: I want to be a fashion design because I still 223 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: wasn't thinking music equals career, and he was like, fashion designer, 224 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: a black man was a fashion like my dad didn't 225 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: have a whole lot of vision. He should have came 226 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: to New York and learned about black men in fashion design. 227 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: But so basically I spent a year or a year 228 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: and a half in college and then around nineteen, my 229 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: cousin George called me and told me that there was 230 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: a band, a relatively successful band in Milwaukee, nobody who 231 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: had any national fame or anything, but they were they 232 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: were always doing performing at the hot clubs and they 233 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: had radio spots. 234 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: So it's like in the name of the band was Girard, 235 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: and every every weekend you'd hear commercials about, you know, 236 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: after the drag speed way in this park, and also 237 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: there will be Gerard performing, and like, wow, Gerard. 238 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: One day and my cousin told me Gerard was looking 239 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: for a new lead singer, sister, and I joined your Yard. 240 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: And then I was like, all right, I'll see what 241 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 4: the singing shit does. And then it was like. 242 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: No turning back after no turning. 243 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Back after that, because then I got a chance. That 244 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 3: was my college because for the next. 245 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: Couple of years I was in Gerard. 246 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: But but the cool thing about being in a corny 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: band is you get to learn how to work an audience, 248 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: especially drunk audiences in the Midwest. 249 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: You don't know who really, probably don't really know who 250 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: you a. 251 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: They don't want to hear me sing. They want to 252 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: hear the other girl with the tits sing, and it's like, oh, 253 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: the black dude what is he gonna sing? So I 254 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: got to like win them over? I got a break 255 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: up fights. 256 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Did you have a go to song that you would 257 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: win them over? 258 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: Well? Whatever was hot? What you know at any given 259 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: time this we were doing Gerard. 260 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: Every two to three months, we would learn four more 261 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: top forty songs, whether it was my prerogative or or 262 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: some Madonna song. 263 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: Yo, I'm telling you it was. It was the I 264 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 4: was I kill that shit? You do? 265 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: I kill that Bobby. 266 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: Brown ship back then. So so whatever was the hottest 267 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: at the moment, I'd be like, it's my prerogative. I'd 268 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 4: be trying to do the Bobby Brown dance, mose and 269 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: ship and there was a rap after that. It was 270 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: like yeah, So, I mean that was my college. That 271 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: was learning how to hone my And the other thing 272 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: about Gerard was when you have to learn those songs 273 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: every couple of months, it's like a mechanic taking apart 274 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: of an engine putting it back together. I learned hit 275 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: how to construct a hit song? 276 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh smart. 277 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: So it was like, you know, we got to go 278 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: in the studio, we got to listen to all the harmonies. 279 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: We got to be like, okay, figure out the bass 280 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: and the chords and the boom and the breach around 281 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: and it's a it's a formula a hit song. It's 282 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: like it's like three or four formulas, but variations of 283 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: those formulas work. 284 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good bar for life because sometimes people, 285 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: especially nowadays, people who try to rush to the end 286 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: goal or they try to get it fast. Yeah, and 287 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: sometimes fast you missed. You missed the work that it 288 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: takes for you to be great. So you're gonna be 289 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: fast food. You're gonna be quick fast. You're not gonna 290 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: have the nourishment you saying some shit right now, No, 291 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: the nourishment that you get from having that experience. 292 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,119 Speaker 3: And I really think a lot of today's artists, to 293 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: the risk of sounding like an old man, it's like 294 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: they skip all those steps. They go from in their 295 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: bedroom to doing something on TikTok and face the camera 296 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: which is awesome, to maybe a viral moment and boom, 297 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: throw you on stage, and it's like, you know, but 298 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta do a couple of years of 299 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: learning what it means to actually be physical on stage 300 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: and how that how you maintain your voice, because that's 301 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: there's so many I should open the school up. 302 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: You should like a master class. I should do a 303 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: master class. You have a great social media following up, 304 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: you can send them all that way. 305 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 4: So damn good idea, You're welcome. I feel like this 306 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: is a back to the future moment here, you. 307 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Do it. 308 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: But no, because there's so many facets to this business 309 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: that a lot of artists tend to skip. 310 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 311 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: And uh, we didn't. We didn't. And the and another 312 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: cool thing about Gerard was they owned a recording studio. 313 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: I know, I got it. Every time I hear I 314 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: see the name written, I hear it as they said 315 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: it on the radio this weekend, Gerard. But well, oh 316 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: so they. 317 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: The Spanish radio station. 318 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: Sounds like, but it got that Spanish told O, my god, 319 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: those gee guys him Gerou. But they owned a studio. 320 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: And in the late eighties and early nineties that was 321 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: not a common thing. You know, everybody got a studio 322 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: in their laptop now, but Girard had like a. 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: Thirty two track studio. Imagine that. Wow. 324 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: And so when we weren't gigging, my cousin and my 325 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: sister we were like, yo, can we use the studio 326 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: and just write some shit? And my cousin George and 327 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: my sister Lisa. We would go into the studio and 328 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: we would I would write songs, they would write songs. 329 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: We'd write songs together, and then we eventually got the 330 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: deal with E and I Capitol as benet. 331 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: It was me and my sisters as a group. 332 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're how old? 333 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: What was that like, twenty two, twenty something like that. 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You're about 367 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: to have a birthday. 368 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to have a birthday in October and big, 369 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to be a damn it's even crazy to 370 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: say sixty sixty? 371 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: What the fuck? 372 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: That sounds crazy. You don't look anything close to sixty. 373 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: Thank you for that. 374 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: So what is it? What does it feel like? What 375 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: did you learn in the past decade? What did the fifties? 376 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 4: Jesus, how much time we got? An hour? 377 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 6: Time? 378 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Give me like the brief version the headlines. 379 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: You're always. 380 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: Learning how to improve yourself. You know, there's like maturity 381 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: is not like a a destination. 382 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: It's like a constant journey. 383 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: You are always a work in process until it's done, 384 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: and it ain't done until it's done. And one of 385 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: the things that keep me feeling this uncharacteristically youthful sixty 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: is I always I feel like I'm always trying to 387 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: expand and try new things and do new things. And 388 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 3: I think that keeps I mean, I think that keeps 389 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: my brain more active, and it definitely keeps your body 390 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: more in shape. And if you're conscious about what you 391 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: put into that body, mainly like water. And I cut 392 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: a lot of things out over the years, and I've 393 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: tried to pick up more healthy practices. 394 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: Then you can be sixty. 395 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: As it looks for me today, where I feel active, 396 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm ready to take on two or 397 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 3: three new more challenges, and I feel like by the 398 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: time I hit sixty five, I'm probably going to have 399 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: two or three more endeavors I ain't even thought of yet. 400 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: And it doesn't feel like slowing down. At twenty years old, 401 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: forty felt like, oh it's a wrap. Yeah, my life 402 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: is over at forty Shit, fucking forget it. 403 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: That is true the feeling. But the reality of our 404 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: time on this earth is that we are past the 405 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: halfway mark. That's likely we leave to one ten or 406 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: one twenty. Does that not freak you out? Or did 407 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: that ever freak you out? Aging in that way when 408 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: you think about how our time is limited? 409 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if I really? 410 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: But is that a morbid depressing question to ask? 411 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 3: It's not a morbid depressing question, but it's like it's 412 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 3: like anything else. It's like if you think about the 413 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: if you're in a challenging situation and life has its challenges, 414 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: if you're in a challenging situation, and if you're always 415 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: thinking about the worst possible outcome. Then you're going to 416 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: affect everything that you're going to benefit from that challenging 417 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: situation any all the ways you're going to grow, all 418 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: the ways that you're going to be uplifted. And it's 419 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: the same thing if you're always thinking about, damn, I'm 420 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: sixty statistically speaking, I got eighteen years more left. 421 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: You know. 422 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: If I think about that, that's just gonna fu limit 423 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: and fuck up whatever time I have left. So I 424 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: think that's the way to look at it. 425 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: So you say, fuck that, Yeah, fuck the end, because shit, 426 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: I might be one of them fools that be like 427 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten years old. My name every Ben. 428 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Back in the nineteen hundreds, in nineteen. 429 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: Ninety one, we had cell phones, not these digital chips, 430 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: and I had you know. 431 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: That's absolutely happening, by the way, it is absolutely happening. 432 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: How have you throughout the years and through other ups 433 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: and downs and the public things and the whatever, how 434 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: have you maintained not letting outside become who you are inside? 435 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: I feel I ask you about the lessons, and it 436 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: not the details. 437 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'll say so, the lessons. 438 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: The headlines, Oh, that's. 439 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: A chapter to it. 440 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: When I write, when I write my book, I think 441 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: that's going to headline. It's going to be the name 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 3: of the chapter. 443 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: WHA. 444 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: And I ain't giving you no credit Why I. 445 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Gave you that? And I give you about your masterclass. 446 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: I gave you to Jewels today headlines. 447 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: I think one of the things about going through life's 448 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: challenges is it really helps galvanize, like how you are 449 00:22:54,600 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: not a responsive to negative energy, you know. I think 450 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: when if there's negative energy coming at you, and if 451 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: there is, uh, I shouldn't say negative energy, I should 452 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: say h less than positive views of you for things 453 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: that you you've taken accountability for and you've done, and 454 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: you've tried, you've tried to improve yourself and your psyche 455 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: and your mental from things that you've realized that you've done. 456 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: First of all, you can't expect the world or anybody 457 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: else to immediately forgive you, and then you have to 458 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: forget or forget because. 459 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: Then they'll try to define you by mistakes. And then 460 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: you can't you can't allow what they are thinking of 461 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 4: you affect how you feel about you, because there's the 462 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: internal journey that you're on. Nobody body else knows but you. 463 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: So I think going through that process, it actually makes 464 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: you a better person and kind of facilitates growth faster, 465 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: I think, or at least that's the way I feel 466 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: about life. 467 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: Did you ever get lost in that though? Did it 468 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: ever define you? Like I think? 469 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: In so many ways? If you look at my comments to. 470 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: A lot of people, I feel like going through the 471 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: biggest fuck up I felt. Yeah, for a while, I 472 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: felt defined by it until I started to redefine what 473 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: it was to to take accountability. Because accountability isn't just 474 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: saying I fucked up I did this. Accountability is saying 475 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 3: I fucked up. 476 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: I did this. Let me try not to think of 477 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: the reasons. 478 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: Or the something that could be misinterpreted by other people 479 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: or even myself as excuses. But let me just try 480 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: to take full accountability for the mistakes that I made, 481 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: regardless of the reasons why I did them, and then 482 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: let me try to learn from those mistakes. You know 483 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: what I mean, I do. But until I get to that, 484 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: until that process is finished, yeah, it's there's a lot 485 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: of beating yourself up and feeling like I'm less than I'm. 486 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: Worried in the storm of that. How old are you, Jesus? 487 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Were you in like your twenties. No, you in thirties forties. 488 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: Oh I wasn't it. I was like in thirties, thirties, Okay, 489 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 4: it's like like early thirties. Like like I'm just saying, 490 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: was it early thirties? Probably, But a young. 491 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Man, a young successful man who was an artist, was 492 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: in his thirties, who was involved in any kind of cheating, 493 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: scandal or whatever you call whatever the thing is. It's 494 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: not the craziest or most uncommon thing. It's not like 495 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: it's not like you robbed the bank or you did 496 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: you did you violated you know, or it was violent 497 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: or it was nothing like that. I mean, you had. 498 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: Some things are often always. 499 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's it's a it was a lot 500 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: to put on you for just a time in your 501 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: life where some maybe human error, maybe not error, maybe 502 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: that had to happen for you to get to wherever 503 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: you are now or to get into another marriage that 504 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: you probably did better and got, you know, and healed yourself. 505 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I'm just saying, do you feel 506 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: like a lot was put on you for the crime? No? 507 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 4: Dead, like seriously, Like there's a way I answer that question. 508 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: And it's like if I answered okay, so I. 509 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Don't want to get you back in trouble or something that's. 510 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no no no. At the time, like I said, 511 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 4: I felt, I felt like all of the. 512 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: What's the word, I'm looking for admonishment, I'm receiving my actions. 513 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: I felt like I. 514 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: Deserve them, really, and in retrospect, looking back, I'm feeling like, wow, 515 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: that was a lot. But if that hadn't happened, I 516 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have been able to evolve to where I'm 517 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: at today, and I don't know if I would be. 518 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 4: The personality that. 519 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: I feel inside and that is reflected when people see 520 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: me online. So it's like, you know, just no poetic 521 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: way of saying, there is no excellence without difficulty. There's 522 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: no growth without struggle and fucking up and falling on 523 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: your face sometimes people in front of the whole fucking world, 524 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: which I don't I don't really think anybody will ever 525 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: understand what that's like. I mean, you've lived a very 526 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: public life and sometimes. 527 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: Something but not that. That's why I'm curious about it, 528 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: because even in the smaller scale that I have experienced 529 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: things where maybe people didn't like something I said or 530 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: something was misunderstood. Even in those moments, I have to 531 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: get quiet and make sure that I'm okay with myself, yeah, 532 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: so that I don't fall victim to other people's understanding 533 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: of whatever the thing is right even in my small situations. 534 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: And I've been pretty good in my career, you know God, 535 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: because of God. But I'm just saying at that level, 536 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: I just wonder, man, he got to be rocked through. 537 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: That, because in that moment, you felt like if you 538 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: misunderstood and you communicated in inappropriately like then it would 539 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: bring another rush of I think you're saying. 540 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: No. I think in that moment, if I wasn't strong 541 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: in my own spirit, in my own thoughts, I could 542 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: start believing or start acting differently, trying to either prove 543 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: something to somebody or okay or self doubt sets it 544 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: all that, all the shit, all the stuff that comes 545 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: from outside opinions. And I say I share this kind 546 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: of stuff because I think even on people's in people's 547 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: real life at the job, everybody in the job thinks 548 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: you're something. I think that thing we're talking about you 549 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: had it on a very big scale. 550 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: A cataclysmic scale, yes. 551 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: But that might feel like that to somebody else who 552 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: maybe everybody at the job knows true. How about the 553 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: guy who was how about the guy who was at 554 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 1: the Coldplay concert with the girl from the job. Did 555 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: you see that? 556 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: Did you imagine like you had? No, you went from 557 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: zero to one hundred and twenty. Yeah, you had your 558 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: own little private bubble of life and then woosh. 559 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that guy or even that girl, everybody's 560 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: attention on you sometimes, I don't know, just gets in 561 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: your own way, And I think I think people have 562 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: to navigate that on their own levels or whatever levels, 563 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: And I just think somebody who had to deal with 564 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: it in such a grand way, like understanding how you 565 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: manage that is interesting to me, like more so than 566 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: the details of all of the things, but that you 567 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: navigated that and learned from us. 568 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: So life is it's like. 569 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: Whatever whatever is thrown your way, it's like you have 570 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: two opportunity, No, you really have three opportunities. 571 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: There's always drugs. How's that bad? 572 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Okay? Wait did you you didn't? You didn't go that route? 573 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: No, what was the route? 574 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: What was the route for healing for you? 575 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: Accountability time, trying to trying to make amends as much 576 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: as I possibly possibly could, but with yourself, with myself, 577 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: with her, with my family, uh, with with everybody who 578 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: and friends, everybody who was around me who I felt 579 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: like I just let down, and with myself, and and. 580 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: Then going through that process, then there's time. 581 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: You know, then there's then there's just quite And remember 582 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: at the time, it was like I was a single 583 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: dad to my daughter, and then it was like, okay. 584 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: It was that situation where I gotta, you know, hey, 585 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: you fucked up. Let's get it together, because look who's 586 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: waking up every morning and smiling and laughing and looking 587 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: for breakfast. 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 4: So whenever I'm in her face, I can't be like. 589 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: Oh damn, I fuck my life up. 590 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: Ship, I gotta be. I still gotta be happy daddy. 591 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: And so that was an incredible not just catalysts, but 592 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: the whole nucleus of get your ship together. Nigga, Yes 593 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: you fell down, so what blah blah, get up, get up, 594 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: get up? 595 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 4: You fucked up. You know, look at look at that face. 596 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: So you know, that's not a very easy thing for 597 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: And I don't want to just put this on men, 598 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: because I do know a lot of women who struggle 599 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: with this also, but apologize. Accountability and apologizing it's not 600 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: always easy for people. Was that easy for you before 601 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: or in life or did you have to learn how 602 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: to do that? But you were forced to so I think, well, 603 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: you had a lot of siblings, so sometimes that helps. 604 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I got a lot of siblings. I'm 605 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: the baby of those siblings, so that may have had 606 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: something to do with me fucking up in the first place. 607 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: Is that attention just like that? 608 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 609 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think apologizing for me when I know 610 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, I don't. 611 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: I don't think think. I don't think that was my struggle. 612 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: I think like acting like everything was cool when it wasn't. 613 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: I have historically been good with that until the carhouse 614 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: comes falling down and then I'm. 615 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: Like, holy fuck, I'm not okay. 616 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: I'm not okay, and I fucked up. And then once 617 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: that happens, apologies is very natural. Accountability is the next, 618 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 4: like I said, other than drugs and alcohol, you have 619 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: to face reality. And yeah, the reality is like you 620 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 4: built this. 621 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: What's on the other side of that, like, what's the 622 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: next phase. 623 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: What's on the other side is a bit more fearlessness 624 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: for doing good stuff. 625 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: You know, never a fear of like I don't know, 626 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: slipping back into old habits or old. 627 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: No, no, no, But you know. 628 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: What it did was before all that happened, I think 629 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: I had a fear of failure. It's almost like it 630 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: was an inoculation to a fear of failure, you know, 631 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: because I was just it was a readiness to try 632 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: new things and a confidence to meet people. 633 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: I met my wife. 634 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: How old when you imit your wife? Thirties? Thirties? Right? 635 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 4: Well, no, and by that time I was I think 636 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 4: I was forty maybe maybe. 637 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a new evolution of. 638 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 4: A new had kids. 639 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: We have Luna and Lucia who are fourteen and eleven now, 640 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: and they are brilliant. And India is just a brilliant 641 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: woman now. And yeah, so I think there's always strength 642 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: after you do the work, you know. 643 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that must have been that must have been 644 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: really joyful for you to find love after being going 645 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: through all of that, going through publicly being down, having 646 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: to get up, raising your daughter, and then actually finding 647 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: love and being healed. It's beautiful, you know what I'm saying. 648 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: Because it's probably a different experience because if you go 649 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: into a marriage or relationship unhealed from the beginning, it 650 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: can't feel as good as going into a relationship healed. 651 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: Very true, and one of the most incredible things about 652 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 3: this time around is so with my oldest daughter India, 653 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: I didn't have a partner. I have my family helping 654 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 3: me out. 655 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 4: Now I have a partner who is you know who? 656 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 3: These two little incredible humans are the most important things 657 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: in her life as well. 658 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: So you have to share that lived experience. Yeah. 659 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wonderful and you know it's it's just it's 660 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 4: a joyous experience. 661 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: Are you a good husband? 662 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 7: I try to be come on, you know, if you 663 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 7: are in that Yeah, yeah, And I think. 664 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 3: I think there's especially in this business. I think when 665 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: when you are traveling as much as you are, when 666 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: you are away from you want to be there for 667 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: everything and you're not, and sometimes your kids don't understand. 668 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: And she, my wife, Manuela, is incredible. She's one of 669 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 3: those like attentive to every detailed person and I'm kind 670 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: of like the opposite. So I think being a good 671 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 3: husband is you know, a big part of that too. 672 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I think I can always do better 673 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 3: when it comes. 674 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 4: To that, But overall, overall, I think I think so, Yeah, 675 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 4: I think so. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say 676 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 4: in an emphatic yes, what have you. 677 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: Learned about that? Like? What is the lesson? Like? What 678 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: have you learned? Like what did it take to be 679 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: a good husband? 680 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 3: Probably uh, going through the challenges of not being a 681 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: good person, right, And I think. 682 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 4: That's always the case. It's like, who is that talking to? 683 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: I was talking to a buddy. 684 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: Of mine about mm hmmm. 685 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: I remember a buddy of mine and said he was 686 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: introducing me to his friend and he said, hey, his 687 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 3: friend was about to get married. And my buddy said, hey, 688 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 3: let me introduce you to my buddy, Eric Beney, like, 689 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 3: ask him all the questions you know about marriage and this. 690 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 4: That and the other. 691 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: And this was before, this was shortly after, shortly after my. 692 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 4: First marriage ended in and he wanted you to give 693 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 4: him advice exactly. 694 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 3: And his friend, after his friend looked at him and said, hey, 695 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: no offense, but I mean I just heard about what happened, 696 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 3: and it's like, bro, I. 697 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: Don't know if I want advice from you. 698 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 3: And my friend looked at him and he said, do 699 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: if you're on a motorcycle and you're riding a mall 700 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: hall and drive. Who better to ask for advice on 701 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 3: how to maneuver that shit then the motherfucker who just 702 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 3: ran off the edge. 703 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: So I I think there's a bit of it. 704 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: In that spirit. And I've heard your respond to this before, 705 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 1: but that spirit can you laugh at or someone appreciates 706 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: the never go Eric bin aline or is that a 707 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're saying the same thing, Eric, it's 708 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of the same thing you're saying. 709 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 3: What's funny about that is there was this perception and 710 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: there was even some reporting that you were upset about it, 711 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: not just upset but apoplectic like like like screaming about it. 712 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: And oh I didn't see that. 713 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other thing. 714 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes we see shit like I see ship, and if 715 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: I see it, I think everybody sees it. 716 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: It was just a good So. 717 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you spasing you you you hate j Z? 718 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 4: Like I was like, yo, jay Z mention me, So 719 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 4: did you really are. 720 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: You that far removed from that guy that you're Yes, yeah. 721 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, I mean me and my team 722 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: we got together, it was like this shit crazy. So yeah, 723 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: there was no like animosity about that that ship. That 724 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 4: ship was quite funny. 725 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: And then I thought I was being cute with a 726 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: response on back then Twitter and it kind of backfired. 727 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: Who was the response, I don't remember. 728 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 4: It was something something that was funny, some funny that 729 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: I thought, Oh, like I thought. 730 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: I was living my life. 731 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said something I thought was funny. 732 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: And it was like I was looking at the comments. 733 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I should have shut the fuck up. 734 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: But you weren't somewhere sitting somewhere angry. 735 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 4: I was in It was funny. I was in Cuba. 736 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 4: Oh wow, I was in Cuba and there were these 737 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: articles talking about how I was so angry and I 738 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 4: was so Spanish. No, no, like you were looking at 739 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: back home. Yeah, like how Eric Benee is definitely upset 740 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 4: about what happened, and we were like chilling in Havana 741 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 4: with cigars and ship, having a good time, laughing about 742 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 4: the whole thing. And it's just funny how the media 743 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 4: will take something and sure, yeah. 744 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: You know, none of those things, those ups and downs 745 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: and those moments have stopped you from kind of just 746 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: continuing to I don't know, just the channel and you 747 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: have to, yeah, you have to. 748 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, that's part of it. 749 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 3: Man, you just gotta like because whatever is happening, there's 750 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: like a perception of what actually happened, and ninety times 751 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 3: out of one hundred, the reality is something completely different. 752 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 3: So you can't react to people reacting to something that 753 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: they think is. 754 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: Yea, they get it. 755 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 4: You feel me. 756 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: But now you're in this space where you've created a 757 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 1: whole social media personality that you have that we didn't 758 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: know that you had internally, but you never showed us 759 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: on the outside. So everybody thinks there's like a. 760 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 3: New Yeah, they thinks a new Your dasked Alison. Alison 761 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 3: is the one right over there who gave me my 762 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 3: first record deal. She signed me to Warner brother The 763 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 3: whole time when I got that deal that she gave it. 764 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: To, all the ups and downs we're talking about, she 765 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: was riding right there Passenger Sea. 766 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's known that. 767 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 3: I'm basically I'll run into somebody like Fuzzy and you'll 768 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 3: be like, yo, Eric, this is the same nigga. 769 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 4: This is Eric finally. 770 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: So that's funny. Was it surprise to you how people 771 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: have responded to you on socials? Surprising? 772 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 3: I would say it wasn't surprising as it was It 773 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 3: just felt affirming, you know, I felt like, wow, yeah, 774 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: I guess this is this has been me the whole time. 775 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: It feels really good for people to just like me, 776 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, without me trying to like put on some 777 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 3: kind of blue steel face. 778 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 4: Is that a weird reference blue steal? 779 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: No, it's no, you know, in the age of. 780 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 5: Years, okay, because now I read the shirt reference reference 781 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 5: than that. 782 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: I'm at the age now where I feel if I 783 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: make a lot of my references, I'll be like, does 784 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 3: anybody understand Remember remember when you were always the youngest 785 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: person in the room, and now that ship don't happen 786 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 3: no more, And you'll just make a reference in the 787 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 3: whole room. 788 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 4: It's like, what is he talking about? I've been blue 789 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 4: steel Zoolander for those Yeah, go google it, Yeah, go. 790 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: Go board chat it. So what are you gonna do 791 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 1: with this? Like newfound kind of I don't know. 792 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 4: Rock, a new single? Yeah, well there's that some music going. 793 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 8: Yeah. 794 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 3: Last year we had a music project that did really well, 795 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 3: you know, on Allison and my label jb R. 796 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: We had two number one singles. Yes, excuse me, I'm 797 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 4: b from la uh. 798 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: We have We're going to get a sponsorship now they 799 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: with Eric. 800 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had incredible female artists on this project, like 801 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: artists who. 802 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 4: Were like fourteen right, and that ship was crazy. I 803 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 4: don't know how we pull that ship's a lot. 804 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: Because can you name them all quickly? 805 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 4: Uh? If I do, I'll miss somebody. 806 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 3: But we're talking about let us see, were talking about 807 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: Jordan Sparks, were talking about Chante Moore, Tamar Brax and 808 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 3: Kareem Bailey Ray Uh were talking about India India? 809 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 4: Are we we're talking about? 810 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Pipes? 811 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 4: Uh? 812 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 3: Well who else? Ari Lennox? Come on, Eric, fuck see 813 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 3: you know see I'm gonna forget right. 814 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: Fine, don't go through the whole list, but a lot 815 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: of women. 816 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: But two number one singles a project that we're really 817 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 3: proud of at JBR. 818 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: And who's thinking, whose brain baby is this? Let's go 819 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: get all the women woman over here? Oh got it? 820 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 4: Who is like? Because I uh. 821 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: You started your career as sexiest man, one of the 822 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: essence sexiest man's alive, you might as well return to. 823 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 4: Your roots, return to your roots. Well, I'm always returning 824 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 4: to music. 825 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 3: And we had a new record label, so it was 826 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 3: time and I hadn't had something new out in eight years, 827 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 3: and I decided to Allison, was like, Nigga, you need 828 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 3: to get your ass back in the studio into an album, 829 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 3: but we need to make it special. Let's look at 830 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 3: some of your biggest successes have been duets, so let's 831 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 3: make a whole you know, spend my Life and Georgia 832 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 3: Porge and so we did a whole album that way, 833 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 3: and I'm extremely proud of it. Now we have a 834 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 3: new single for a solo project to that. I need 835 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 3: to get back to La and put some finishing energy on, 836 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 3: a lot of finishing energy on and. 837 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 4: No features, just you, no features so far. And it's. 838 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 3: The first single I feel really good about because it's 839 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 3: really an extension of a lot of my political animus 840 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 3: on social media, like telling people, yo, let's we're stronger together, 841 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: please stop being silent, like please speak out against the division, 842 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: the subjugation, the trying to rewrite history and erase our rights. 843 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 3: You know, we gotta fight against that. So the single 844 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: Who's going to Save Us is all about that. 845 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: It's good. 846 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Got in the studio with my man 847 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 3: DJ Camper Felly, the voice, incredible songwriters and producers, and 848 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 3: we came up with this joint. 849 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: I love that. Who is going to save us? 850 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 4: We are? 851 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: We are only we can't, Kelly, how do we do it? 852 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: What's the first thing? 853 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: Well, we've done it multiple times in history. And the 854 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 3: crazy part about it is how the powers that be 855 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 3: they keep using the same fucking formula and it keeps working. 856 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 3: The divide and conquer. Let's know, let's get them to 857 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: fight against each other and then we can rob them 858 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: and we can take away even more of their rights. 859 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 4: So then they'll start fighting even more and we'll get. 860 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: Even richer, and now we can be trillionaires and they'll 861 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 3: think we're superpowers. 862 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 4: And you know, so I. 863 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: Even see it with like what they're doing. I don't know. 864 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes I see people going at each other and I 865 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: wonder where the roots of this And a lot of 866 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: times when you track some of that, I wonder if 867 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: that's even real. Like I feel like there's just so 868 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: many bots in AI systems that are literally set up 869 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: to your point to divide and conquer. 870 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right. 871 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so scary and it's so wild to watch 872 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: how people play right into it so easy. 873 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 3: What's especially frustrating to me is two things are going 874 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 3: to be needed, which it seems lately we haven't been 875 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 3: tapping into the realization that how powerful we are as 876 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 3: individuals and to be at least marginally educated. That doesn't 877 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 3: have to mean you had you gotta you know, have 878 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 3: a PhD or even graduate from college. But you've got 879 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 3: to read. 880 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 4: You gotta read. 881 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: History, the history that they're trying to erase. You have 882 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: to fill your brain with knowledge, and it's it's it's 883 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 3: disappointing sometimes. 884 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm gonna again. I'm going to sound like 885 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 4: the old crudgeon, old man right now. 886 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: It's all right, you got good skin, you can get 887 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: away with it. But I don't know if you're experiencing this, 888 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: tell me. 889 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 3: But sometimes if you talk to nineteen twenty twenty one 890 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 3: year old, it's like there's certain sometimes and unfortunately for me, 891 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 3: it's more than not. You know, I work with a 892 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 3: lot of young people in the music industry, and like 893 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 3: basic general knowledge stuff, it's like they're clueless. 894 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: About They don't even teach kids how to write and script. 895 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: That's bruh, Yeah, they don't even teach that. And it's 896 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: it's sometimes like I have younger family members or somebody 897 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: young and I'm like, should I write this in script 898 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: or should I? Are they going to be able to 899 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: read this? 900 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 4: Because is this three syllables? 901 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a simple little thing, let alone 902 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: the important things. 903 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, scary and that that's we're going to need those 904 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 4: two things. 905 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 3: If we are going to save ourselves. You got to 906 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 3: empower your brain and empower yourself. And there's so many 907 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 3: other things attached to that, like taking care of your body. 908 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, what does the Eric Brene a self care 909 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: regiment look like? Because you would have to take care 910 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: of yourself to be as. 911 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 6: Immersed especially in this is political climate and all that 912 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 6: and everything that's happening in the world. 913 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: Because you immerse yourself. Some of us do a dance 914 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: as much as we can and just try to balance 915 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: a normal life. Understand, you don't your blinders are never on, 916 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: you know. Some of I put blinders on sometimes not 917 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 1: for long period, just long enough to have my sanity. 918 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Then I'll go back and pay attention and do my 919 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: work and research and you know, but I do sometimes 920 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: have to find ways to put blinders on. 921 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 6: But there are people like even the people who do 922 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 6: ground like my friend to make a mallory or people 923 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 6: who are. 924 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: Never without blinders. I think, oh, that's that's hard, Like 925 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: you have to. 926 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 6: Find a way to who And I feel like you 927 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 6: probably have your own ways exercise or whatever, ways to 928 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 6: put blinders on, even for a little bit of time, 929 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 6: but you seem like you're in it pretty much. 930 00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: All the time. 931 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Some of my friends are like, dude, why are 932 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 4: you watching news so much? It's just bringing you down? 933 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 4: And it does, but it does bring me down, but 934 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: it also it just kind of like it makes me vocal. 935 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 4: It makes me vocal. You've got to be aware of 936 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 4: this stuff. It's like it's like I'm forever. I think 937 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 4: it'll be one hundred, two hundred years from now, and 938 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 4: if there's if we are still alive as a civilization, 939 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 4: they will be studying as to how was it possible 940 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 4: that somebody who has so repeatedly failed in their life, 941 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: and has had such a void of any moral compass 942 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 4: or character, or ethics, or care or concern for history 943 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 4: or anything other than his own self ingrandizement, how did 944 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 4: he become president? And it's like. 945 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 3: The formula, the formula, the I don't know, distract, the distract, divide, 946 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 3: and we got and and I think that again. 947 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 4: I'll say it again. 948 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 3: The only effective anecdote for that is education and self empowerment. 949 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: What about self care for you? Like, so, what do 950 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: you do? How do you take cas? How do you 951 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: keep your mind? 952 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 4: Gotta drink your water and I cut out alcohol. 953 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: Really none zero. 954 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 3: I would say once every couple of months, I'll have 955 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 3: a glass of wine. You gotta cut out as much 956 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 3: sugar as you possibly can. 957 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 4: Look if it's if I'm down South and it's some 958 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 4: peach cobbler right there, and I know I haven't had 959 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 4: dessert in like a month, I'm a fuck that peach 960 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 4: cobbler up right. But I mean, for the most part, 961 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 4: I think I have to. 962 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: Really monitor and manage sugar intake processed foods. I try 963 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 3: to maintain a relatively pescatarian diet. Sardines are good, blueberries, yeah, 964 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 3: try to cut out dairy. I work out four times 965 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 3: a week, and we. 966 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: Kind of work out, not heavy weights, like weight training or. 967 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 3: A lot of calisenic stuff, some weight stuff, you know, 968 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 3: I'll try. I'll try to do like one hundred push 969 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 3: ups a night, and then I'll do my workout in 970 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 3: the morning. 971 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 5: You know. 972 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: So this doesn't just happen at sixty, right, this is 973 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: time you look at six. This is just not this 974 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: is not genetics, not for me, not for you. 975 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 4: You work hard to yeah, yeah, because I mean it's 976 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 4: just a matter of your your natural bodily functions that 977 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 4: if you don't do it, then your muscles will year 978 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 4: by year, you'll lose. 979 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 3: More and more percentage of your muscles and your bone 980 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 3: density if you're not counteracting it with diet and exercise 981 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 3: and grounding, grounding, stay connected. 982 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 4: To the earth. 983 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: How do you do that? 984 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 4: Take your shoes off and just you still barefoot? Eric Beney, See, 985 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 4: I told you some truth to that shit. There is true. 986 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 4: I might say a couple of squear words if I 987 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 4: stub my toe, but I mean, yeah, no, but I 988 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 4: mean there's undeniable scientific evidence that if you have skin 989 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 4: to skin contact with the soil, the earth, the sand, 990 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 4: it lowers the inflammation in your body and it promotes 991 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 4: a general well being. 992 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: And where do you do Where do you go out 993 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: at home? I guess right in the backyard. 994 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 3: Are you having your coffee in the morning, take your 995 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 3: well I get in la. You can do it year round. 996 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 3: I take my shoes off and I drink my coffee 997 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 3: outside in the backyard barefoot foot. 998 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's so funny. I started golfing a 999 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: few years ago and I went to golf maybe a 1000 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: year ago with someone and he was barefoot the whole time. 1001 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: And I was kind of like making fun of him. 1002 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 4: And did he tell you why? 1003 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: He just said, there's only some places that use, only 1004 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: a few places in the world that you can do it, 1005 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: so he chose to do it. We were I think 1006 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: we were in the Bahamas and he was golfing barefoot, 1007 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: and we were just joking. We were like teasing. It was, 1008 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: you know, funny, but I really thought I could try that. 1009 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 1: There might be something to that. 1010 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 4: You should. 1011 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: Now you're making me really want to ship there really is. 1012 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,919 Speaker 4: There really is, like peer reviewed scientific evidence to back 1013 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 4: it up. 1014 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: All right, sold, we have some features that we have 1015 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: to do with you while you're here. 1016 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 4: Eric, Oh, what I gotta do? 1017 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: I gotta dance, Yes, you gotta dance. You're gonna sing? Mmmm. Okay, 1018 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: that's good. 1019 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 4: That's it. 1020 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. That was fun. Hey guys, 1021 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: you ever sign up for a phone plan thinking wow, 1022 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: what a great price? And then a few months later, 1023 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: it's like, surprise is hire. We hate that. With boost Mobile, 1024 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: you pay twenty five dollars a month forever. That's unlimited talk, text, 1025 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: and data starting at just twenty five dollars a month. 1026 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: There's no price hikes, there's no contract, and this is forever. 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After thirty gigabytes, customers may experience lower speeds. 1034 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: Customers will pay twenty five dollars a month as long 1035 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: as they remain active on the boost Unlimited plan. 1036 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 1037 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: This is a voice not our voicenote segment. 1038 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 4: Who do we have Eddie here? 1039 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm a girl, dad, My thirteen year old girl just 1040 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: started dating. I'm already having nine minions about it. But 1041 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 2: I've been having this thought specifically about her bringing home 1042 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 2: a man, him cheating on her, and then having it 1043 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 2: with that situation like her wanting to take him back 1044 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 2: as something. What do you think I should say in 1045 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 2: that situation? What do you think I should do if 1046 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 2: my baby girl brings home a man who cheats on 1047 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 2: her and then wants to stay with him? 1048 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1049 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: That's a very specific question. 1050 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 4: That is very very specific, And there's a couple issues 1051 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 4: about the question. You're thirteen year old daughter. 1052 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: She shouldn't be dating at all. 1053 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: She should hell fuck no, what did. 1054 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: They start to date? I don't think he said she was. 1055 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: I think he said he has a fear of that 1056 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: this would happen. Okay, then good. 1057 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 4: Here's the question. 1058 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 3: You ain't got shit to worry about till she's sixteen 1059 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 3: and then what and then if she brings home a 1060 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 3: guy who cheats. 1061 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: On her, yeah, or is a bad guy. 1062 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 4: Then you have until. 1063 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 3: One to she's sixteen years old to be the representation 1064 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 3: of the kind of guy you want her to bring home. 1065 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:02,479 Speaker 3: And one or two bad ones might slip through, because 1066 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: that is definitely not a fail safe plan there and 1067 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 3: when that happens, you have until one until sixteen years 1068 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 3: old to have the kind of relationship with your daughter 1069 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 3: where she's going to come to you and talk to 1070 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 3: you about what she's going through. You are not going 1071 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 3: to be able to control a sixteen year old daughter. 1072 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 4: She's going to have. 1073 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 3: First of all, she's female, so she's going to have 1074 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 3: all kinds of ways to make you think she's doing 1075 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 3: what you asked her to do, but she ain't really 1076 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 3: going to be doing it. So you, as much as 1077 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 3: you would like to be the absolute control of that situation. 1078 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 4: He's not going to be. So he's got time to 1079 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 4: arm her with love. 1080 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: Do you have that relationship with your kids? 1081 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 4: I'd imagine yeah, And I'm trying to. 1082 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 3: You know, we've got a couple more years to go 1083 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 3: with Lucia. I've got four or five more years with Luna, 1084 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to every day have a better relationship 1085 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 3: in that regard with my daughter's most important, most important 1086 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 3: people in my life. 1087 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 1: You're oldest, is how old? 1088 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 4: Are thirty four? 1089 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in a she's in a beautiful relationship. And yeah, 1090 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 3: thank god, Yeah I'm not I'm not worried about her. 1091 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 3: But you know, all right, Okay, this is fun. 1092 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: I feel like you're a good dad. Are you a 1093 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: good dad? 1094 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 4: Again? Like? I think so? But I'm trying. I don't 1095 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 4: want to say because if I tell you, yes, I'm 1096 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 4: a good dad, it's like I could. I feel like 1097 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 4: I could do better. How I think, Well, when I 1098 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 4: look at my wife and how incredibly attentive and like 1099 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 4: she is with them in every aspect of their life feeling, 1100 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 4: and I'm like, how do you keep track of all 1101 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 4: of that stuff? 1102 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 3: And then I'm trying to keep the income coming into 1103 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 3: the situation, and it's like, so I I feel like 1104 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 3: I'm a good dad who's always trying to find ways 1105 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 3: to be a better dad. 1106 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: It's probably taught you a lot right about life and woo. 1107 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 4: Shondo. 1108 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1109 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's a poetic justice from God. It's 1110 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 4: like all daughters for you, bro. Yeah. 1111 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: But they also say they give you the kids. They say, 1112 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 1: God gives you the kids that you need, Yeah, to 1113 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: become the verb, to become who you're supposed to be. 1114 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. You know what I'm saying, It's true. 1115 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 4: Agree with that. 1116 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that too my kids. Yeah, they get 1117 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: you there because because you're trying to be the best 1118 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: version of you, it's not trying to be so they're 1119 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: forcing you to be a better version of yourself simply 1120 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: by just existing. 1121 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 4: And simply by them being existing. By them existing, Yeah, 1122 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 4: you are having to underscore lessons that you've learned and 1123 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 4: things like as you're teaching them things you're like, yeah, 1124 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 4: I think I needed to hear that too. 1125 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Has anybody ever given you good parenting advice? 1126 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 3: The best parenting advice is try to share as share 1127 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 3: as much of your life with your children as age 1128 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 3: appropriately as you can during their journey of growing up, 1129 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 3: so that it's very natural for them. Once they get 1130 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 3: to that sixteen, it'll be like, I guess what happened? 1131 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 3: You know, I won't feel like such a weird thing 1132 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 3: for them. 1133 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Do you do that with your kids? Do do? 1134 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 4: I tried? 1135 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: You tried to? 1136 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 4: Ye? 1137 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: I agree? I agree? Good good, good good advice. Childhood. Okay, 1138 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 1: we're going to those some I r L questions. We 1139 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: have an IRL bowl. Let me just go through this 1140 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: real quick. You okay, over there. I think you were 1141 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: wonderful today. 1142 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 4: You think so? 1143 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Do not feel like that? Tell me? Tell me now, 1144 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: I'll give. 1145 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 4: You a different like what I feel like I was? 1146 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 4: I think so I wasn't an asshole enough? 1147 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Why would you be an asshole? Are you an asshole? Sometimes? 1148 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't think what would make you like, what would 1149 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: happen in your day that would make hm? It's funny 1150 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 1: because when I ask people questions, I go through this 1151 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: thing in my mind where I want to can I 1152 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: answer that? So I was going to ask you what 1153 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: were you really? Sometimes yes, especially if it's like a 1154 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: question like that that I just think on the spot. 1155 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: It's almost like I try to be like, is that 1156 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: a fair question to ask? Could you answer that in 1157 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 1: your own fair questions? So if I say to you, 1158 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: what would make you be an asshole in your day? 1159 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: Then I'm saying to myself what would make me? And 1160 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: I was I was a little bit of an asshole yesterday? 1161 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 4: I think what would make me? And I first, why 1162 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 4: were you an asshole yesterday? 1163 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:59,959 Speaker 1: I was really overwhelmed with life yesterday, just personal shit, work, ship, 1164 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: it too much on my plate. Hadn't had five minutes 1165 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: to just do don't. 1166 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 4: Make anybody an asshole? And that was gonna be my answer. 1167 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: Well, that was what it was. It still shouldn't be 1168 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: an asshole because it's not anybody else's fault. 1169 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 4: Asshole maybe is an extreme word an individual of low patients. 1170 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Extreme? 1171 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, extremely, That's about. 1172 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 3: As close as I'll get to an asshole if it's 1173 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 3: like I've just there have been a couple letdowns in 1174 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 3: the day. Something didn't go the right way. I didn't eat, 1175 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 3: I forgot to do some ship, which I'm always forgetting 1176 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 3: to do. 1177 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:33,919 Speaker 4: Shit. 1178 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: What level of assholary are we talking about? Though? 1179 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 4: Probably like can we can? Can we wrap it up? 1180 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 4: Because I gotta go. 1181 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: That's fad. Yeah, that's not I mean, that's not the worst. 1182 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like I definitely ucked this ship. Man, 1183 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 4: I'm out of here. It's not like what did Trump do? 1184 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 4: He just like all you gotta do to Trump is 1185 01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 4: like ask him an actual question and he's that's a 1186 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 4: rude question. That's just a that's why you're a despicable person. 1187 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 4: That's an asshole. 1188 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Well, he's an asshole from the gate out the gate. 1189 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 4: He's not like a long from a long line of assholes, 1190 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 4: a line. 1191 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: Of assholes In all this commentary you've been making, Have 1192 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: you heard from anyone? Have you Have you gotten any 1193 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: of those weird calls? 1194 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 4: I didn't get weird calls, but I did get a 1195 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 4: call from Stevie wonder, Oh can you share? I can 1196 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 4: only share because he said I could. 1197 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Okay, have you shared this before. No, I'm so excited. 1198 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: First of all, Stevie Wonder, see, one of our greatest nash. 1199 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 4: Natural Trust is the most I mean, I don't even 1200 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 4: got to say shit, he's the most beautiful, talented, iconic. 1201 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 4: You know, you don't got it, but. 1202 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: You him national treasure. 1203 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 3: And here's the other thing that I've discovered in my career. 1204 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 3: People like that, people who. 1205 01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 4: Just seem as though their talent exceeds human and expectation. 1206 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder, Quincy Jones, Prince. When you meet these people, 1207 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 4: in my experience, they always seem to be the most 1208 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 4: attentive and they make you feel like when they're talking 1209 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 4: to you, you're the only person in the world, and it's. 1210 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Just like, really, okay, well I want to know how 1211 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: you think of but you know, well, tell me about this. 1212 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: You know what is that? 1213 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1214 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: What is that that they do? Why do you think 1215 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: they do that? 1216 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 4: I think it's just they are so successful because in 1217 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 4: any given moment, they are so present And it's not 1218 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 4: just that I think it's love. I think they have 1219 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 4: so much. You can't be a conduit for that much. 1220 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 3: Creativity and power if there's just not a whole lot 1221 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 3: of love in your being. Now you may have your 1222 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 3: own personal challenges challenges, but it's all packaged in love 1223 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 3: and trying to become a better person. 1224 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: God wouldn't give you a gift that strong, exactly if 1225 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: there was no love in there. Yeah. 1226 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 3: So Stevie, I've been blessed in my life to say 1227 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 3: that he is somebody who I can call and talk to. 1228 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 3: I still pinch myself with that realization. But he's just 1229 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 3: a being of love. He called me, well, actually, my 1230 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 3: wife told me Stevie's going to call you about four o'clock. Like, 1231 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 3: oh shit, what I do? 1232 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: Wait, has Stevie have you ever gotten that call from No? 1233 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 4: I've never gotten this call from Stevie. 1234 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: H No, just like if you've done something that's like 1235 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: call you with the cell. 1236 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 4: No, but there's something about tone. 1237 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: Okay, now you know your wife's stone. Yeah. 1238 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 4: So actually I was supposed to call him. 1239 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 3: So I called him, and basically where he was coming 1240 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 3: from was he seeing some of the posts. 1241 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 4: And his sentiment was like, Eric, look my young brother. 1242 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 2: I know that. 1243 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 3: We're all angry and disheartened, but I fear that he 1244 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 3: was basically saying, you coming on a little hard and 1245 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm worried about how crazy some of these motherfuckers are 1246 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 3: out there, not his words mine. 1247 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're paraphrasing. 1248 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1249 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 3: He was like, those who are on the side of 1250 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 3: that negativity, they are crazy motherfuckers, and why don't you 1251 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 3: put and put all of that anger into music. So 1252 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 3: he was coming to me as like the older uncle brother, 1253 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 3: like I don't want you to get out there and 1254 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 3: somebody do some stupid shit to you because it's something 1255 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 3: you said. And then and then, and then two days later, 1256 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 3: I went into the studio and wrote die Pedal. 1257 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: So where is that song? 1258 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 3: Where that is a song I never officially released, but 1259 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 3: I was just in the studio one day, angry and 1260 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 3: thinking about what Stevie said, put it in music. Huh, 1261 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna write die Pedal and maybe I'll 1262 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 3: throw it on the album. 1263 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1264 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,839 Speaker 3: I know they might very very well for you already 1265 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 3: very well maybe them, But I mean I was I 1266 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 3: was so grateful for the call, and I think I really, 1267 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 3: I really took it to heart. And I won't say 1268 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 3: that it made me change what I say, but maybe 1269 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 3: I think about how I say it sometime. 1270 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: That makes sense because when you think of Stevie, you know, 1271 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: he's the loves in need of love today. 1272 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 4: He's but not only that, so many generations of this 1273 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 4: same movement he's seen and he's seen some of the 1274 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 4: soldiers get taken out. 1275 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: Not that. 1276 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 3: Please, I'm not saying I'm a soldier and I don't 1277 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 3: think he would. Well, I guess in some ways I am, 1278 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 3: and he wasn't. I don't know, maybe he was. But 1279 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:15,759 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for the conversation. 1280 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Did shift anything in you or no? Because you haven't 1281 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: really slowed up that much slowed up. But I. 1282 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 3: That thought is conscious in my head every time, like 1283 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,759 Speaker 3: I be like, okay, curb your rage. 1284 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 4: Curb your rage. 1285 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 3: So I'll be thinking about oh so long, I'll be 1286 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 3: thinking about Stevie. 1287 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 4: Now that's really going to post. 1288 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 1: So Stevie he's a bucket list guest for me on 1289 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: the pod. 1290 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 3: He is a beautiful, godlike soul because he's all about 1291 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 3: I care for you, I care for this world. 1292 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 4: I want we. He is the message of who's going 1293 01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 4: to save us. 1294 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 3: It's like we all need to collectively join our positive 1295 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 3: energy if we're ever going to overcome the negative forces 1296 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 3: of this world. And his message is do it without 1297 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 3: the rage, but do it from a place of love. 1298 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,800 Speaker 1: That's Steedie beautiful. 1299 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 4: But shit, I got too much James Baldwin ever you. 1300 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 1: Though you're more Malcolm than I think so than Martin. 1301 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be like, fuck them motherfuckers. 1302 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: Man, have you ever made a call like that to 1303 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: put somebody onto something or to like do you ever 1304 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 1: make those calls? Because I'm sure there's people that look 1305 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: to you. You'd owe g to some of these singers SRV. 1306 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 4: I try to encourage I tried to encourage people to. 1307 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 3: Just speak, because what I'm hearing often is people will 1308 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 3: come up to me and they will just say, man, 1309 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 3: I so appreciate what you're doing when and my response 1310 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 3: is like, thank you, thank you, Please, I invite. 1311 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 4: You to voice join me, join me. Yeah and yeah. 1312 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 4: I laughed when you asked me the question because I 1313 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 4: thought about the time I met Dick Gregory, Oh, which 1314 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 4: did not go well. 1315 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: Why what happened? 1316 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:22,600 Speaker 4: So? 1317 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Where was give it to me? Tell me that Dick 1318 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,960 Speaker 1: Gregory story was I was in. 1319 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 3: DC and it was Obama's inauguration and I just wanted 1320 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 3: to be there for this historic event. And then after 1321 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 3: the inauguration, there's all kinds of little pockets of things happening. 1322 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 4: And I was at some place I don't remember where 1323 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 4: I was, but somebody said, hey, Dick Gregory's back there, 1324 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 4: and there's about thirty people back there, and I was like, 1325 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 4: oh shit, excuse me, I want to I want to 1326 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 4: go meet Dick Gregory. And when I walked back, I 1327 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 4: quietly like stood at the back of the room and 1328 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 4: he was commanding the people, as Dick Gregory does, and 1329 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 4: he was just saying how he was talking about his 1330 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 4: his his his regimen of health. And he was basically saying, 1331 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 4: I don't I don't eat ship this. I drink water 1332 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 4: because because food is toxic, I don't eat. I don't 1333 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 4: eat nothing. I don't never eat and and people are 1334 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 4: like wow, and and and when there was a break 1335 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 4: have you ever met Dick Gregor? No? 1336 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 6: Never. 1337 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 4: And when there was a break in the conversation, I 1338 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 4: was like, oh, miss mister Gregor, I just want to 1339 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 4: say it's so nice to meet you. But I mean 1340 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 4: there must be something that you eat. Big mistake, big mistake. 1341 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 4: It was like a pause. 1342 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 8: He looked at me, this nigga trying to tell me 1343 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 8: what I said. I was like, oh my god, nigga, 1344 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 8: I said, I don't eat these young niggas. Don't listen 1345 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 8: to niggas. 1346 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 4: Oh he caught you young though, he called you I 1347 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 4: look pretty young. I guess when was Obama? No, that 1348 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 4: was Jesus, Yeah, exactly. 1349 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: So I'll just do a number out of it. So wow, 1350 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: I was like, And that's how it ended. He didn't 1351 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: laugh and say it's there was no laugh. 1352 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 4: That's that's Dick Gregor. 1353 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, no laughing. Yeah, I said, I don't eat ship, nigga. 1354 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 1: So how does that end? You can't good meeting? 1355 01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 2: Good? 1356 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 6: That ended? 1357 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 4: Do you ever see the the meme of Homer and 1358 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,719 Speaker 4: the and the bush, the back to the bushes? 1359 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 6: That was it? 1360 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 1: Back to the bushes? 1361 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I actually said, I just like faded 1362 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 4: into it. 1363 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: It's really funny. 1364 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 4: It wasn't at the time. 1365 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 1: No, I bet, I really, I bet it wasn't. All right. 1366 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 4: I r L bowl, Oh ship, I r L bowl. 1367 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: There was a bowl. 1368 01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,560 Speaker 4: What does it habit that you were proud of? What 1369 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 4: is it habit that you are trying to breathe. 1370 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: In real life? 1371 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,560 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, give it to me. 1372 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 3: So the habit that I am most proud of is 1373 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 3: when I when I make the decision, when I made 1374 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 3: the decision to take care of my health, I can 1375 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 3: be pretty. I can stick to that pretty with you know, 1376 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 3: consistency in varying degrees about five years ago. You know 1377 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 3: some things It's taken me the last couple of years 1378 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 3: to like just lock into like a workout, a cutout, alcohol, 1379 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:38,720 Speaker 3: I eat. 1380 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Right, what's a habit inspiring to me? Because that means 1381 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 1: I could go do that today? 1382 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 4: You absolutely can't. 1383 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's inspiring. I do take care of myself in 1384 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 1: certain ways, but I could do a lot of things 1385 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot better. So you made me feel like from 1386 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: now to five years from now, I could really make 1387 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,320 Speaker 1: a significant. 1388 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 4: That makes such Okay, you don't got to you don't 1389 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 4: gotta put this on camera. But do you drink? I do? Yeah, 1390 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 4: So I know it's difficult because. 1391 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 3: Like a couple of years, like maybe three years ago, 1392 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 3: I would have to have like two shots of Scotch. 1393 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not a drinker like that. I drink. 1394 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 1: I enjoy a cocktail. That means I have one or 1395 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: two atten maybe twice a week. Yeah, see once or 1396 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 1: twice a week, sometimes one sometimes twice a week. I'm 1397 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 1: never gonna have three or four anything like that, or 1398 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 1: shots I would want to do, but there's always sugar, 1399 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's alcohol and the sugar together. 1400 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not good. 1401 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 1: I enjoy. 1402 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 4: But I'm not telling nobody what to do. I'm just 1403 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 4: telling you what works. 1404 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: From You just were telling me, give me the thing. 1405 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 1: You were just dropping the jewels on me. I gotta 1406 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: st me that tell me what I need to do. 1407 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 7: Some five years when I turned sixty, I so you 1408 01:15:52,960 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 7: look incredible, well, thank you. With with alcohol, even two 1409 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 7: drinks a week, you it will make your skin start 1410 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 7: to age sooner than you should be. 1411 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 3: But if you stop, you could reverse it. Alcohol attacks 1412 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 3: every system within your body, you know, from how your 1413 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 3: your brain synapses, to your digestion, to how your to 1414 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 3: your rim sleep, to your heart, to your how youthful 1415 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 3: you look, to your energy level everything. Like if you 1416 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 3: cut out like if it is a neurotoxin, if you 1417 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 3: cut out alcohol, you will find. 1418 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 4: Like once you stop that habit, you will notice like 1419 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 4: in a month it's like, wow, I slept solid through 1420 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 4: the night. You know, in a month I did, and 1421 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 4: it's like wow, I you know I have more energy 1422 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 4: so anyway, that's my speka. 1423 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it all right. So doesn't mean no 1424 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 1: fun no, no, no, well you need fun to have alcohol, 1425 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,720 Speaker 1: no substances. No, I just just no, I can have fun. 1426 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 1: I meant no other fun substances. No, there's no there's 1427 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: no micro dosing or there's no weed or there's no nothing. 1428 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 4: No, I don't smoke. 1429 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,679 Speaker 1: So clean, completely clean and clean eating. 1430 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 4: Yeah m hmm yeah, and you you will your body 1431 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 4: will thank you. 1432 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: For Itkay, we're going to say we're gonna try it. 1433 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 4: Okay, what's a try. 1434 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a month and. 1435 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,640 Speaker 4: See you wait, shake my hand on that. 1436 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a month. I'm gonna do it. 1437 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 1: It's been again with you, okay, fine, it's been on 1438 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: my spirit anyway. So the fact that you're telling me 1439 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 1: that right now, I'm gonna try. 1440 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,960 Speaker 2: It not to. 1441 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 1: Here this pokesman millboard. So okay, I'm gonna try it done. 1442 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 4: What's a habit here? 1443 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 3: Trying to break as consistent I am, and and regiment 1444 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 3: that I can be with the hell stuff. I can 1445 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,639 Speaker 3: be kind of an airhead with scheduling, you know, making 1446 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,639 Speaker 3: sure that they probably back there laughing at me doing 1447 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 3: side eyes my people, because it's like Eric is the worst. 1448 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 4: Eric is supposed to be on this fucking zoom. Where 1449 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 4: are you? 1450 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:06,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 1451 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 4: That's right? You know so I'm a bit of a mess. 1452 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 1: You're trying to be better there, I'm trying to be better. 1453 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 4: I'm a bit of a mess. 1454 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna run through a couple before we 1455 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 1: let you go. 1456 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 4: So if he wasn't drinking, you wouldn't be coughing. 1457 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 1: You think that's what it was. It was the mamosa 1458 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: that I have right right, I had a mamosa this morning. 1459 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 1: See terrible, that's terrible. I think I'm okay, we're about 1460 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 1: to wrap anyway. Let me just do this quick. In 1461 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 1: real life, in real life, when of you are your happiest? 1462 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 6: Uh? 1463 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 4: In real life? I am at my happiest when I'm 1464 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 4: with my kids playing a game, or watching them laugh 1465 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 4: or making them crack up laughing or something like that. 1466 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, in real life, when was the last time you cried? 1467 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 1: Could be sadness, could be gratitude, could be joy? 1468 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 4: The last time I cried? A week and a week ago, 1469 01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 4: my daughter Luna graduated from sixth grade and she gave 1470 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 4: a speech, and it wrecked me. What do you mean, 1471 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 4: it just it just wrecked me. I'll see if I 1472 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,839 Speaker 4: if I even talk about it, I might start. 1473 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 1: Talked about how. 1474 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 4: How much, how afraid she was. She remembers being how 1475 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 4: afraid she was the first time she came to that school, 1476 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 4: and the confidence that it instilled in her. And then 1477 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 4: she got to Mama and daddy. Oh my god, you're 1478 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 4: gonna make me emotional. She said that, you know, as 1479 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 4: I said, uh, Manuela is just an incredibly attentive and 1480 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:45,599 Speaker 4: supportive in every detail she has. And she thanked her 1481 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:51,879 Speaker 4: mother for just holding her life together. 1482 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 3: And then she thanked me for every because I dropped 1483 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 3: them off to school in the morning. She said, Daddy, 1484 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,560 Speaker 3: every day you tell me that you love me, and 1485 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 3: you tell me that my light never never uh dim 1486 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 3: the light that's shining so bright. 1487 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 4: I was. I was done. I was done. I was 1488 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,719 Speaker 4: trying to I was trying to hold it together. 1489 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 7: You know. 1490 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 4: It was Yeah, it was. It was like, that was 1491 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 4: the last time I cried. 1492 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 1: That's a good cry. That's a good cry. Yeah, we 1493 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 1: already did self care. Real what's your real life guilty pleasure? 1494 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 4: M M, my real life guilty pleasure is probably watching 1495 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 4: uh Karen's getting caught by the police on social media. 1496 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,719 Speaker 4: I would watch I watched that ship forever. 1497 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 3: I love when the police just catch people like doing 1498 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 3: wrong ship and then they got an attitude. I'd be like, 1499 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,479 Speaker 3: I'll look up and it'll be like, damn, am I 1500 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 3: gonna watching this ship for an hour and a half? 1501 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 1: When do you find such content? Where is this anywhere? 1502 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 1: It knows you? 1503 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,600 Speaker 4: It'll be like, oh, this nigga watched like twelve at 1504 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 4: these yesterday. I'm gonna send them thirty. And I just 1505 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 4: love watching Karen's get handcuffs put on them. 1506 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 1: It's the best. It's really funny. What is your superpower 1507 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 1: your real life superpower? 1508 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 4: My superpower is that creatively, I think I can fucking 1509 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 4: do anything. 1510 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 1: Really. 1511 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I I've never taken a music lesson. 1512 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 3: I wrote a short story that turned into a TV show. 1513 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 3: I'm writing a book right now. I just finished the manuscript. 1514 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 4: It's a mid grade fantasy adventure. Oh yeah, and yeah, 1515 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,719 Speaker 4: then you'll. 1516 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 1: Do then you'll do a memoir at some point. What 1517 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 1: do we title it? Lessons and the headlines or the 1518 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,559 Speaker 1: lessons behind the headlines? 1519 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 4: We took I was good yeah, way it rolled off 1520 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 4: so easy. Yeah, that lessons and the headlines, I. 1521 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Think something like that. I'm gonna rewind the tape back 1522 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: and said it to you. 1523 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe maybe at some point a memoir. 1524 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't do it. I want to. 1525 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,880 Speaker 4: I want to accomplish a little bit more ship. 1526 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,280 Speaker 1: Okay, what's left on the bucket list for you? 1527 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 4: You know? 1528 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:23,719 Speaker 3: I want to write a series of novels. I'm working 1529 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 3: on launching another like film company with a friend. I 1530 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 3: want to get that off the ground. Good uh ship 1531 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 3: by next week, It'll probably be two more things. 1532 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,640 Speaker 1: You're just gonna keep going, right. How often do you 1533 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:41,559 Speaker 1: think about your legacy? 1534 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 4: Never? No, I don't think about it because because I 1535 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,759 Speaker 4: mean to think about the legacy means to start thinking about, 1536 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 4: all right, it's all done. How will they remember me? 1537 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 4: It's like I don't think about that ship? You know, 1538 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 4: I got too much shit? 1539 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 1: Du Yeah, but do you think about I don't know 1540 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:00,560 Speaker 1: what you want people to learn from you? 1541 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,960 Speaker 4: Orf? Like even I think about that? Yeah, I think 1542 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 4: about that. I hope I hope that the good, bad, 1543 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,400 Speaker 4: and indifferent is. 1544 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 3: Not only like teaching me lessons, but I hope I'm 1545 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm I'm inadvertently teaching other people lessons too. 1546 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,559 Speaker 1: And what are you most proud of? We talked about 1547 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 1: all the ups and downs. I don't mean, I don't 1548 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 1: mean just like are well I guess you said your kids. 1549 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like such a cliche answer, but everything 1550 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 3: else pales in comparison when I see what they can do, 1551 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 3: and I see like like like India, Lucia and Luna, 1552 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 3: they are just so talented, like they can they kind 1553 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 3: of have that me thing where it's like, Okay, I 1554 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 3: think I think I'm going to start doing aerial dancing, 1555 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 3: or I think I'm gonna I think I'm going to 1556 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,600 Speaker 3: try out for this play and then they get the 1557 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,480 Speaker 3: lead or excuse. 1558 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 1: You created a world for them where they could think 1559 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: that way. 1560 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah it's beautiful, absolutely. 1561 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 1: But about you, that's really what the question was. What 1562 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 1: are you most proud of about yourself? 1563 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 3: That I'm always willing to learn and grow and I'm 1564 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 3: always willing to admit when I'm wrong. 1565 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 4: I guess, And I smell good. 1566 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Good, I smell good naturally, and I look good. 1567 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 4: Remember that, James Brown. 1568 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 1: My last questions in the Bolts, my favorite question in 1569 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 1: the I R L Bowl, You got a text right now, Yeah, 1570 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 1: and it was from God. 1571 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 4: God. God would have text you right God a black God? 1572 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:43,679 Speaker 1: You're God? 1573 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,640 Speaker 4: Okay? Hey Shondo? All right? Is that? 1574 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 6: What is that? 1575 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 1: What you call him? 1576 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 4: Okay, let's call him Shondo. 1577 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: If God would have text you right now, what would 1578 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 1: it say? 1579 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:55,719 Speaker 2: WHOA? 1580 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 4: Never got that question before? Angie? Where'd you get that? 1581 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. We came up with it, and I 1582 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: don't know early in the pod. It just came up. 1583 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: I think it. It just says a lot about what 1584 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 1: you truly care about, you know, like what's truly really 1585 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: important to you today? If the text came today, like 1586 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: what would it say? 1587 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 4: I would think that God would tell me. 1588 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 1: To shit muslump, dude, think about it. You don't have 1589 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,799 Speaker 1: to rush it. I was just thinking, in true fashion 1590 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 1: of me making sure I can answer a question. I 1591 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 1: think my text today would probably it would be to 1592 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: the effect that something about my text today would be 1593 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 1: like you did great because you trusted me. Mmm, so 1594 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 1: just keep doing that. 1595 01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 3: I think my idea of God is like somebody who 1596 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 3: a being who is is loving and encouraging, as opposed 1597 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 3: to like First Testament type shit. 1598 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 1: H you're not a religious guy. 1599 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 4: No spiritual No, absolutely, I do believe in God. I 1600 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 4: believe in the power of love and positivity, and I 1601 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 4: think negativity is a very powerful evil force. I think 1602 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,600 Speaker 4: that God would say something to me like I love you, 1603 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 4: but he would probably say something that I would understand, 1604 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,599 Speaker 4: like I love you, but even more, and I would 1605 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,840 Speaker 4: know exactly what he meant. 1606 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 1607 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 3: That means like all the positive all the positivity I'm 1608 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:53,640 Speaker 3: trying to uh grow from and speak on, Like, do 1609 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,800 Speaker 3: it even more? Like all of the projects that you're 1610 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 3: working on that you think can help or uplift put 1611 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 3: more into it. You know, all of the energy that 1612 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,760 Speaker 3: you spend with your children where you're nurturing them and 1613 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:14,560 Speaker 3: and and teaching them to respect and love themselves and 1614 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 3: realize that they can do anything. 1615 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 4: Do that even more. I think it'd be something like that, 1616 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 4: do more, do more? That's so you think? 1617 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 1: So yeah you do? 1618 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 4: How so. 1619 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 1: Look at your whole life, look at your whole career. 1620 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,680 Speaker 1: How can I be better? How can I do more? 1621 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 1: How can I do a new label? How can I 1622 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 1: do new souls? 1623 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 4: How can I do If you didn't say that I 1624 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 4: love you first, I would have been like and and 1625 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,920 Speaker 4: just got the just do more. I've been like, damn, 1626 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,760 Speaker 4: I'm fucking up. Yeah, but if he was like, I 1627 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 4: love you, just do a little bit more. 1628 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're not doing enough? 1629 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:57,639 Speaker 4: Never? Life? 1630 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:03,640 Speaker 1: Right it? 1631 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 4: What's up? This is Steric Benett in real life. 1632 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for watching. 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