1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: Winn a trick your down, You got real telling, don't 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: concentrate on golf. 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to the Action Network podcast. Of course, 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm your host. Peter Jennings is always here on the 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Golf Podcast. Were joined by Jason Sobel and Drew Stoltz 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: aka the Sleeves and Fellas. I enjoyed the podcast so 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: much last week, except for the fact that you guys 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: quoted the two hundred thousand dollars that we won. We 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: would have won collectively. The agreement was, and it was 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: on the podcast. We were entering the one hundred dollars 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: million Maker, which we would have gone fifteen hundred dollars for. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: So you guys will be credited with your net on 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: that contest. But two hundred thousand dollars. Let's not get greedy, felt, 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: So what do you have to say for yourself? 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: I like greed. 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 5: I've got lawyers on this, multiple lawyers. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: They haven't passed the bar yet, but they are working 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: on it as we speak, and I believe that sometime 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven we will come to an out 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: of court settlement. 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 5: Where after I pay the lawyers, I'm still going to 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 5: be negative on this whole deal. 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: Or we could just go somewhere and play golf with 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: a little bit of money that we did win on 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: the US Open and last week the Chess Whisper. 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: I shouldn't even call you the Sleeze anymore, formerly known 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: as the Sleeves currently known as the Chess Whisper or 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: C Dub if you want to call me that for sure, 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: see Dub. Yes, greetings, thank you for addressing me appropriately. 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: What would you like to know this week? 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: How much money did you make to the penny on 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: Chess review? 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: Last week? I made some more money on chess only 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: I did not have him to win, although a couple 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: of our listeners did have him to win, So props 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: to those out there that had the balls to throw 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: down on Chester to win the event. But I took 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: him out another top. I was just once I get 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: a good thing going, I don't stray away from it. 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: I did not necessarily think he was gonna win, but 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised at all that he did, and it's 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: a huge testament to him he has made. He's had 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: a nice couple weeks here about one point eight million 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: in the last two weeks, so you know, not bad. 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: We should have had two hundred k, which is, you know, 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: not one point eight but not bad. But you fucked 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: up and didn't enter it. But anyway, good week for 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: the Chez whisper, and I honestly think he's gonna keep it, 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: keep it up going forward one. Once he gets trucking, 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: he typically doesn't look back. So maybe we'll get into 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: that a little later in the pot, you. 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 5: Know, sleeves. 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Good week for Chez, good week for you, good week 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: for all of us, and good week for some of 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: the listeners. Now I've told you guys privately in our 58 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: group text that we've got going on all the time 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: that I get a little perturbed on Sunday nights when 60 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I see other people in the industry who are just retweeting, 61 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: like everybody's tweets thanks for your help. I won money 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: this week. Hey look at me, And then they're like 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: retweeting it. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we did a great job for you, We're 65 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 5: the best. 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: It's like, come on, guys, settle down, that's what you're 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: supposed to do. 68 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 5: Act like you've been there before. 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: That said, when we start getting all these tweets over 70 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks about you guys are killing it. 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 5: You guys, here's some screenshots and we are cleaning up 72 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 5: because of you. I'm not going to retweet the stuff, 73 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 5: but feels pretty good, it doesn't. 74 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is nice, especially nice term events. After the 75 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: debacle at the PJA Championship that I had, you guys 76 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: were probably pretty good, but I laid my life down 77 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: on the line for Craig Hocknell, so it took a 78 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: lot of heat for that. I like to retweet all 79 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: the shitty comments that come to me. I might actually 80 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: start doing that, but it is nice to see some 81 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: dudes win some money out there. And soba we were 82 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: minus the guru Peter last week, we still put together 83 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: a pretty decent little DraftKings lineup. Some people want some 84 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: money on that, so props to us. We don't need 85 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: the we don't need, you know, fantasy guru here coaching 86 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: us up, and we had we had some success on 87 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: the individual bets too. I'll just kind of recap what 88 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: I did in our accountability segment here. So last week 89 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: two and one, for the Lease aka c Douve aka 90 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: the Chez Whisper, I had Patrick Reid thirty six, They're better. 91 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: He ended up finish thirtieth, so solid to p read. 92 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: I'm not normally pulling for that guy, but I was 93 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: last week for one of the first times ever. My 94 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: new guy Victor Hoblin over Daniel Berger as predicted home 95 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: run Chicken Dinner. I'm gonna get more into Hoblins as 96 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: we get forward into the Rocket Rocket mortgage. This week 97 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: did lose my boy Wolf over Tway. Not so much 98 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: that Wolf played bad. He made the cut but didn't 99 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: make the Sunday cut. But Tway, Wow didn't see that coming. 100 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: Had a big week, big week. Props to him. I 101 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: love Kevin Tway. I was just more pro Wolf than 102 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: his pro debut last week than anything. So he took 103 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: the l but two and one not gonna bitch about it, 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: all things considered, pretty happy. 105 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was starting to count my money on. 106 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: My favorite bet from last week was Martin Kaimer over 107 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: in Germany at the BMW International Open. 108 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 5: He lied by two. Going into the weekend, I was 109 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 5: texting everybody I could find, going, hey, you guys got 110 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: in on this right, And I was like, not exactly. 111 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, well, I'm gonna be the only 112 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 5: one winning money. 113 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: And then he shot like one hundred and forty two 114 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday and I was like, oh, now he's in 115 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: eleventh place and he's not gonna win. 116 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: You had me really excited on Friday night when I 117 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 4: when I saw he was leading going into the weekend, 118 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit. I think Silva might call that, 119 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: like actually predict the winner of the European Tour. That 120 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: was gonna be big props to you. You pick a winner, 121 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: by the way, like that's a pretty big long shot. 122 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: So you are at least in the mix there for 123 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: a bit. 124 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: If you're going euro Tour, you can't be like, well, 125 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: I like this guy at the top twenty on the 126 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: euro Tour. It's like if you're going to a different tour, 127 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I feel like you got to. 128 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 4: Go big, go big at all times. 129 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you just get like, hey, I really 130 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: like adrian O'tegi in a matchup over Fabricio Zanadi this week. 131 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: Who cares? 132 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: Come on, like, you gotta go big. 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: If you're doing that, your European Tour knowledge is bath. 134 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: Before we transition into the Rocket Mortgage Classic did make 135 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: a wager already this week and it was on the 136 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: Open Championship. I sent you guys the ticket. I'm on 137 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: JT to win it at plus forty five fifty sleeze. 138 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: You just had him on your radio show. Yeah, a 139 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: lot of reasons to be bullish in my opinion, especially 140 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: at that price. He's doing everything pretty well as one 141 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: of the best players in the world. He's just putting terribly. 142 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: Do you like the bet? 143 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: And did you get anything from JT on the radio show? 144 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: I like that bet for a lot of reasons. On 145 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: the radio show he did say we only cover a 146 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: little bit of serious golf. We're not big serious golf 147 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: guys on the radio show. But he did say everything 148 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: feels good. I'm literally just putting it awful right now. 149 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: So you get JT, one of the best ball strikers 150 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: on the planet, forty five to one. Yeah, I think 151 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 4: that's a good bet. We also did get him to 152 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: we read him some rap lyrics from various rap songs. 153 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: He's a big rap guy, this JT, and got them 154 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: to explain what they meant to us in Layman's term. 155 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: So that was good. And on top of that, our 156 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: show is starting, Peter, this is something you should probably 157 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: start putting in your model is becoming kind of a 158 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: leading indicator here. We had Gary Woodland on as one 159 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: of our first guests. First major after he came on 160 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: the show won the US Open. So not saying that 161 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: we create major champions on the show, but we don't 162 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: not create major champions. So back to that in as well, 163 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: when you're when you're setting your prices, I'll. 164 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: Factor it in. Soabo ought a nice rebubble over that. 165 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: Shouldn't Colt have have some some wins? 166 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Now? 167 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: No, Colt is a host of the show. He is 168 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 4: not a I do not consider him a player right now. 169 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: So he has and I am in no way responsible 170 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: for Colts play. 171 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, in theory, cult should have ten majors if 172 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: people on the show keep winning. And I don't know 173 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: what that says about usleis like you should like at 174 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: least win, like the Tuesday afternoon Skins game that you 175 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: play in or something like that. 176 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can only give the power to other people. 177 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: I have it within me, but I don't I don't 178 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: actually create it myself on the golf course. I like 179 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: to give it to other I like to see other people. 180 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: It's like Christmas, It's you get more from giving than 181 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: you do from receiving. So I'm basically like the Santa 182 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: Claus of golf. That's another nickname. People whisper c dub 183 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: the Chesz Whisper and the Santa Claus of golf. People 184 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: call me these things all the time on the day 185 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: to day. So that's more what I'm about, is giving 186 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: than receiving. You know, I'd rather, I'd rather co host 187 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: podcasts and and radio shows and actually slip on green 188 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: jackets and hoist big jugs over my head and fly private. 189 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm talking about sleazy Santa Claus. 190 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: That's my new nickname for you, buddy, Sleazy Clause for sure. 191 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: Or coming back to JT. We're getting serious now, we're 192 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: talking serious golf. 193 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: So let's get let's get real. 194 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 5: You can put it on mute for a minute. 195 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't have all the numbers exactly in front of me, 196 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: but when you text me that, I did tell you 197 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: that one year he had he got stuck in the 198 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: bad wave, like the back nine of an afternoon He 199 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: shot eighty or something like. 200 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: That and otherwise played really well. 201 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Another year, he I believe, if I'm remembering correctly, got 202 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: stuck in some sort of gorse Bush and made a 203 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: nine at some point, actually played pretty well other than 204 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: making a nine, So it's like, I get it there. 205 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're outliers, but they're still you know, ifs 206 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: would have could have butts. 207 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: But he did play. 208 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Pretty well and doesn't really have the results of the 209 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Open Championship to show for it because a couple of 210 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: things have happened seemingly every time. 211 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: So I do like that that, I really do. 212 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime I can get forty five to one or 213 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: more on JT, I'm gonna fire it. And I do 214 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: think outrights are really tricky Mark, and in general there's 215 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: a lot of. 216 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: Vague and it's tough to beat. 217 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: But it just seemed like an efficient line banking on 218 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: some putting regression. All right, let's transition to the Rock 219 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: and Mortgage Classic, New Name, New course. 220 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: We have some big names. 221 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: DJ is the big favorite, Yeah, Ricky Foller behind him, Matsiama, 222 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: Gary Woodland playing after winning the US Open. Chez reve 223 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: right there, that's favorite. Incredible shout out to Chez. I'm 224 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: just a good feel you got Snydecker, Horsel, Patrick Reid, 225 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: Ryan Moore, Bubba Watson. There's some pretty good names in 226 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: this field. 227 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: So well, what are your thoughts on this tournament? How 228 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: are you handicapping it? 229 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 5: So a few things. 230 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: First of all, I think we have to sort of 231 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: try to figure out because of the level playing field, 232 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: because there's no experience, there's no course history. Do you 233 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: go with just talent alone and say, hey, the better 234 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: players are going to play better? Or is this a 235 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: total crapshoot? We just say, look, no one has course history, 236 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: no one's been here before, no one knows anything about it, 237 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: and it's just hey, it could be a free for 238 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: all this week, and I think part of this week's 239 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: task for us. 240 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: Is trying to figure that out. 241 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Now, obviously, guys like DJ and Ricky they're gonna pretty 242 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: much play well every single week, but think there are 243 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: a few other things you. 244 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: Can look at. Here's why. 245 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: I think that if you do a little research this week, 246 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: maybe you can come out, if not on top, then 247 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: more on top than normal, just because I think so 248 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: many people tend to rely on course history. 249 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 5: So people say so and so. 250 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: Always plays well at the Travelers, I'm gonna pick them 251 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: again there and boom, I'm done, and I put. 252 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: In my DFS lineup. I put in my bets for 253 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: the week. 254 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: I did pick Paul Casey and Bubba Watson and Kevin Streelman, 255 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,239 Speaker 1: guys who always. 256 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: Play well in Connecticut. 257 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: And there's my team, and that's fine, and sometimes it 258 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: works out. 259 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: Really really well. 260 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: And that team probably would have been okay last week, 261 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been terrible. You can't rely on that this week, 262 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: so I think you can rely on other things. I 263 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: think that this is first and foremost going to be 264 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: a ball striker's course, the Donald Ross Course, and usually 265 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: ball striking and accuracy come in to play on these 266 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: golf courses. And secondly, as I just mentioned, it's a 267 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: Donald Ross, and I think we can look at past 268 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: performance on Donald Ross courses. I found a quote from 269 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Bran Snedecker, who's won on three different Donald Ross courses 270 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: and there aren't that many of them in regular PGA 271 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Tour schedules, and Stenecker said, I love Donald Ross courses. 272 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: They're my favorite, you know, I love playing these. One 273 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: of his first ever event at Forest Oaks in two 274 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: thousand and eight for the Windom, and then one again 275 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: last year at the Windham when he played obviously Sedgefield, 276 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: which is another raws course, so he's got some history 277 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: on those, and I think you look at some other 278 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: players Jason Duffner, Ryan Moore have some history on ross courses. 279 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: So it all comes together. 280 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: I think part of this week is just figuring out 281 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: is it gonna be the big name guys just because 282 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: they have more talent and they're gonna kind of figure 283 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: it out quicker, or is it just gonna be a 284 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: total free for all and do we go kind of 285 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: bargain hunting this week? 286 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of big names and some of the 287 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: young guns Sleeves. 288 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: I'll think it to you. 289 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: Obviously you're the chess Wesper, will get your opinion on him, 290 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: but you're young gun guys. I mean they're all here. 291 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: That's something that I was paying attention to right away. 292 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: You got Victor Hovlin, you got some JM who have 293 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: been on this whole this you know, since this podcast 294 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: has been going this year, we've been really high on 295 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: Sung Jay ever since he came out on tour. You 296 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: have a bunch of young guns that I think are 297 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: getting respect in the markets and our interesting DFS plays 298 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: as well. 299 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: Do any of those guys stand out to U? Sleys 300 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: you actually hit on actually every guy that I really 301 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: like this week, and I guess I'll just go ahead 302 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: and jump into some of the guys that I like 303 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: right now. I was doing a little talking with a 304 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: few of the guys that are up there as Sobel said, 305 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: no one's played this golf course. Everyone's starting off on 306 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: equal level playing field here. No one's got any course history. 307 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: No one plays well here or plays bad here. But 308 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: the guys that I talked to said the fairways aren't tiny, 309 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: that they're somewhat generous. They're not big, but they're not small, 310 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: but driving, but you get to hit a lot of drivers. 311 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: But the iron play is the key here is what 312 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: everyone has said that I've talked to said, the greens 313 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: are really tricky, really hard to put, so I think 314 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: putting somewhat will get nullified. And they said the greens 315 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: are fairly small. So for me, when I was putting 316 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: together the guys the best that I like and the 317 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: DFS guys that I like, I was going more towards 318 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: like iron play, strokes gained tee to green and that 319 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: type of st So, anyways, to jump it off on 320 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: the young guns that last week, I said, you rider 321 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: till she bucks you or you don't ride at all. 322 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: And I was referring to Victor Hoblin getting us some 323 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 4: big chicken at the US Open. Got me some nice 324 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: chicken last week, so I'm running again with him this week. 325 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 4: I got Victor Hoblin minus won ten over a guy 326 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: that I don't have huge expectations for this week. So 327 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 4: it's kind of a double whammy over Bubba Watson. So 328 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: if you look at Bubba, the reason I like this 329 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: is a I think Victor Hoblin is an absolute beast. 330 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: He's driving the ball better than anyone on planet Earth 331 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 4: over the last couple events that he's played, and it's 332 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: not even close. It's by a long shot. And if 333 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 4: you look at Bubba his last five events MC I'm sorry, 334 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: last four events MC sixty third, MC fifty fourth and 335 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: fifty fourth was last week at the Travelers of Course 336 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: that you know, typically you say this is one of 337 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: Bubba's spots, this is one of the places that he 338 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 4: plays well. He really just hasn't played very well lately. 339 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: And I think going to a new golf course you 340 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: can kind of tell before the week starts whether Bubba's 341 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: gonna play well or not. I just I don't see it. 342 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: I haven't really seen much from him lately. And meanwhile, 343 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 4: Victor Hoblin seven starts to try to get his tour card, 344 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: or at least get to Web finals to try to 345 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: play his way into a tour card. I'm big on 346 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: Victor Hoblin and I'm not big on Bubba. So that's 347 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 4: my favorite bet of the week, Victor Hoblin minus one 348 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: ten over Bubba. Yeah. 349 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: I like that short Bubba and very bullish on Hoblin. 350 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: So what are your thoughts. 351 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: I am on record over the last couple of weeks of. 352 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: Being on Team Fade Bubba, and I'm not jumping off 353 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: that right now by any means, because I just think 354 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: something's wrong there. And I've said for a long time 355 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: about Bubba, and I don't know if it's something physical, 356 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: something mental, something psychological, something technical, but if it is 357 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: the latter, if it is technical. 358 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: The thing with bubb everything we love about Bubby. 359 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: He's got a homemade swing, he's never had a coach, 360 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: and he can work the ball both ways. The problem 361 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: with that is that when it's not going right, you 362 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: don't have another set of eyes to fall back on. 363 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: You don't have that coach saying hey, well here's what 364 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: you're doing wrong, because you've gone forty years without ever 365 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: working with a coach. 366 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: And so I think when. 367 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: It goes badly for Buba, it's harder for him to 368 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: turn it around, just because he doesn't have anyone to 369 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: help him with this stuff. 370 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: All he knows is I hit the ball and it. 371 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Goes way right to left, or it goes way left 372 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: to right and it goes way down the fairway. And 373 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: yet when it's not working for him, he's not a 374 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: guy that's looking at his numbers on a track man 375 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: trying to figure out like, well, this is why it's 376 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: not going right and so right now it is, as 377 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Slez said, not going right whatsoever. 378 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 5: So I am fading Bubba everywhere possible. 379 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: That's it. 380 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: Don't love Hoblind as much as you do Sleez this week. 381 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: I think he's just sort of the bright, new shiny 382 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: toy for the PGA tour fans out there. Markets are 383 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: absolutely overreacting. In fact, one of the matchups I really 384 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,479 Speaker 1: like is ben On at even money against Victor. 385 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: Hoblin this week. 386 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about an experienced veteran player, guy with two 387 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: top twenties and his last three starts. I really like 388 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: ben On exactly this week on of course where he 389 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: should be able to play well. 390 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: He's a really good ball striker. So that's one I'm 391 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: looking at a couple other matchups. 392 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: Some Jam still not getting quite the credit that he deserves, 393 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: while he's matched up with Kevin Kisner, which I think 394 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: is a really tough one. 395 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 5: But I like him this week. And the guy that 396 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: I found against Bubba. 397 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: Was Aaron Wise. 398 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: And Aaron Wise has sort of. 399 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Had an underwhelming year, zero top tens in fifteen starts. 400 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't quite get that. I don't know what's going 401 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: on with him right now. Brooks kept it was like 402 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: effusive in his praise of Aaron Wise before the US Open. 403 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: He thinks Wise has a tremendous amount of talent. I 404 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: tend to agree with him, and I think it's only 405 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: a matter of time before he turns things around. 406 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 5: So in a match up against Bubba, I love Wise. 407 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: In that one. Just on the Bubba stuff. I'm on 408 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: board of fade Bubba on any matchup you can get. 409 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: Victor was just the one that kind of jumped off 410 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: the page and me, I think was one of the 411 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: one of, if not the streakiest guys on the PGA Tour. 412 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: When he's playing good, look at when he starts feeling himself. 413 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: Look Out, you saw him going that run last year 414 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: where he won the match play. I think he woned 415 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: like one or two other times. Was a world beater, 416 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: looked unbelievable, was just mowing people down. And when he 417 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: gets bad, and when he gets down and he starts 418 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: missing cuss and starts hanging his head, he is absolutely 419 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: a shell of himself when he's playing well. So I 420 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: think right now things aren't really clicking for him. Things 421 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: aren't going good. I think he's one of those guys 422 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: when he's down, you ride that out as long as 423 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: you can until he shows you that he's back and 424 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: on a golf course that he's never seen before, one 425 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: that we don't know whether it suits him or doesn't 426 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: suit him. But I'm willing to bet that this isn't 427 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: his rebound week. So I would take Bubba any I 428 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: would take the other side of Bubba in any matchup 429 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: you can get. Victor was just the one that jumped 430 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: off the page for me. I'm sure Bubba. 431 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: I think you guys made a lot of good points 432 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: on him, and he's a streaking golfer, and we know 433 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: he's kind of a horses for courses guy new Venue. 434 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to bank on his kind of current form 435 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: and that this is not one of those spots that 436 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: he really over exceeds. There's a lot of guys standing 437 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: out to me just looking initially at the markets. One 438 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: guy I want to point out that I think is 439 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: interesting across the board is Von Taylor really starting to 440 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: play some great golfs, having a great year fourth of 441 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: the Travelers finished extremely strong with the sixty five including 442 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: five straight parties, and the Travelers before that. I mean, 443 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: he's had some good finish including the seventeenth at Byron Nelson, 444 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: thirteenth at the Wells Fargo. Just been very steady and 445 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: he's really cheap on drafting. So he's one guy that 446 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm looking at. He's gotten good line movement. The two 447 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: other guys that I want to get your guys' opinion 448 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: on that I've seen tremendous line movement already on Luke 449 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: List and Keith Mitchell, which I was a little surprised. 450 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: I guess it's because they're anticipating distance being very important 451 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: and then the driver being in the hands a lot 452 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: of these guys, those two have moved strong in the 453 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: outright markets. 454 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: Either of those names stand out to you, guys, I. 455 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 5: Don't love them, I tend to think. 456 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: And again, it's so difficult because we don't know exactly 457 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: how this course is going to play. But everything I've 458 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: seen it tends to favor ball strikers. It plays just 459 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: about seventy three hundred and forty yards, so it's not short, 460 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: but not really long. Those guys are guys that I 461 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: tend to like on longer golf courses. We're going to vombit, 462 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: a Sleeve said. There are some fairly generous fair ways, 463 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: so that should help those guys, But not totally on 464 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: my radar. Mitchell not been good lately, really since Quail Hollow, 465 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: where he had a T eight. Mitchell has not played 466 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: his best golf in the last month and a half 467 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: or so, so I'm not totally on that. Again, I 468 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: like ball strikers. I'm gonna give you a few names here, 469 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: and I mentioned a few of. 470 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: These guys already. 471 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Snedeker is the one guy if I can make one outright, bet, 472 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I think Snedeker at like thirty five to one right now. 473 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 5: It is a really nice play. 474 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Ricky obviously should play pretty well, plays well just about 475 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: every week, but obviously short odds there. 476 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 5: Duffner I like he. 477 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Won on a Donald Ross course at the twenty thirteen 478 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: PGA at Oakill. Benny On I just mentioned before a Decky. 479 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Anytime you say that pudding could be neutralized a little bit. 480 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: The Decky's a guy we could like. And Joaquin Nieman 481 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: had a T five finish at the Travelers sort of 482 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, but not really. I mean he was 483 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction, played really well last week. 484 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: And if you go back and look last year when 485 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: he was sort of he was Victor Hovlin. Last year 486 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: he was the number one ranked amateur, he turned pro. 487 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: He was the bright, shiny object that everyone wanted to 488 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: get a glimpse of. And I think we tend to 489 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: forget that a year later because he has played his 490 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: best golf and yet you go back and look at 491 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: some of those results from last year. Joking Neman, when 492 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: he tends to get hot, he stays hot for a 493 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: few weeks in a row. 494 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: So I really like him. 495 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: This week with Stade's arm on Nieman. That's his dog. 496 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: I love Joaking Neman, and I was looking at it 497 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: on DraftKings. They priced him up up to eighty nine hundred. Yeah, 498 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: so he's starting to come up in price. 499 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 4: But I do love that call quite a bit. 500 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: Obviously a really talented golfer, and I'm just trying to 501 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: figure out where to go. One other guy that I 502 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: like a lot and then we can get into making 503 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: a DraftKings lineup is Bud Collie, who I think is 504 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: having an underrated year, especially when it comes to ball striking. 505 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: The putter hasn't exactly cooperated every event, but he's been 506 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: a very solid player. And he's another guy who had 507 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: just a big pedigree coming in obviously friends with all 508 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: the young guns that are getting the notoriety. Had that accident, 509 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: But things really seem to be trending for Bud Collie, 510 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: who's only seventy five hundred. He did have the most 511 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: recent two miss cuts, but before that he had a 512 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: ninth place. He's shown some upsides, so to me, this year, 513 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: while there's been more miscussing, you'd like to see the upside, 514 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: especially in the ball striking stats, seems to be there. 515 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: So as I know you talk to guys you know Bud, 516 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: and he's certainly a polarizing player in terms of his 517 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: expectation given that he's had a lot of miscuts. 518 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: But what are your thoughts on him? He's only seventy 519 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: five hundred underdraft. I think he's a really good play 520 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: at seventy five hundred. Budd Cally, he's really similar to 521 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: a guy I'm about to name off for my last 522 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: bet that I really like. But Bud call it incredible 523 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: ball striker, one of the better iron players that I've 524 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: ever been around, and there's just not a lot of 525 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: variants in his ball striking, doesn't seem like so. Being 526 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: that this is a Donald Ross course, iron play is 527 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: key is the biggest indicator in my opinion, or the 528 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: biggest factor to consider. The greens are smaller than your 529 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: average tour greens that these guys are used to seeing 530 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 4: fairways are going to be probably pretty comparable. But that's 531 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: the key to lock in on. I think Bud is 532 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: really good, especially price at seventy five hundred, and the 533 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: last bet that I'll give you that I like a 534 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: lot a very similar guy in my opinion. Jason Duffner 535 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: Top twenty. You can get him at plus two hundred. 536 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: He was seventh at the Memorial, which is another, you know, 537 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: kind of second shot golf course, and he's top twenty, 538 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: just worked itself into the top twenty, and greens in 539 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: regulation on PJ Tour absolute nails t to green. And 540 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: if these greens are as diabolical as some of the 541 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: guys that I'm talking to are telling me, I think 542 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: that kind of nullifies the putting, and you know, maybe 543 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 4: you won't see as many twenty twenty five footers rolled in, 544 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 4: which Duffner doesn't do very often at all. So if 545 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: you can kind of put him on a more of 546 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: a level playing field on the greens, I will take 547 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: my chances with him t to green almost any day 548 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: of the week. So I think top twenty at plus 549 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: two hundred is a fairly good bet there for Duffner. 550 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: Hey, guys on a course where we don't know anything 551 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: about anything and we think that some sort of long 552 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: shot star horses could be off this week. Just throwing 553 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: out a whole bunch of handful of names and see 554 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: if you guys pick out any of these that you like. 555 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: Necessarily Sepstraka, Taylor Gooch, Cameron Trengali, Wyndham Clark, Bronson, Bragoon, Mackenzie, Hughes, 556 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: JJ Spawn and the one I like the most out 557 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: of this whole kind of lower price group, Ryder, who's 558 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: really trending in a nice direction right now. 559 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out Wyndham Clark. I'm gonna sound biased, but 560 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: that's that would be the guy that I like. He's 561 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 4: absolutely got enormous speed off the team, one of the 562 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 4: leading driving distance guys on the PGA Tour. The problem 563 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 4: that he runs into is that he doesn't drive it 564 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: straight all that often. If he can. This golf course, 565 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: from what I'm told, is gonna play around seventy three 566 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: hundred yards, so pretty average, you know, link type of 567 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: a deal. He has not played well of late, but 568 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: just speaking with him recently, I know that he's he's 569 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time with his teachers as he 570 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: feels really good about it. I think the upside, if 571 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: you're going upside out of all those guys, if he hit, 572 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: if he can hit the ball in the fairway off 573 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 4: the sea, I think the upside is the highest for him. 574 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: I also agree, I think Sam Ryder is your is 575 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: your safe play out of those guys that you mentioned. 576 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: Maybe Taylor Gooch too, he's a really good player as well, 577 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: But those would be the guys out of the list 578 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: that you name that I like the most. 579 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: Well, before we get out of here, we got to 580 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: make a DraftKings lineup. We got to make sure we 581 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: get it in the tournament so we don't have a 582 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: debacle like the US Open. 583 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: I'll start it off, let me go. I'm gonna pick 584 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 4: go up North with the big dogs. First. We didn't 585 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: talk about him a ton, But if you want to 586 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: talk about just tea green nails ball striking, I'll take 587 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 4: Kadeki Matsiama. Yeah, guy that hasn't one that we've been 588 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: calling for forever, so that when he does inevitably win 589 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: soon or at some point, we're gonna be like, yeah, 590 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: we've been talking about him forever, but we have been 591 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: talking about him for forever. We're past do on the 592 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: time that it should take for him to get a win. 593 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: But you're hard pressed to find a guy that that's 594 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: better t Degreen than Hideki. So if this course plays 595 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: like you know the guys are saying it's going to play, 596 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: I like Kadeki up top probably won't be as high 597 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: owned as some of these other guys, but I like him. 598 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: It almost two thousand dollars less than DJ. I think 599 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: that's a really nice play up time. 600 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, saves the two grand and you're getting a pretty 601 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 4: damn good player. Yeah, I like that. 602 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: I want to go sun Jay or Nieman and I'll 603 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: let you pick. I think one of those two, shit, 604 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: we should snack. So what do you which way should 605 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 3: we go? 606 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 4: You know what? 607 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 5: I think you know what you're talking about. 608 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: And I think I really like both of those guys, 609 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna take them both here. 610 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: Perfect Oh executive decision from the soaboda. 611 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 3: We all start saving some cash now. 612 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: But I really call well, there he goes Chez. Yeah, 613 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: that's the problem with Chez. We've been on Chez. We've 614 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: been loving Chess. We've actually really kind of pounced at 615 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: the right time with ch has. Now the whole world knows. 616 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: Now his price is going to be high. Now he's 617 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 4: going to be matched up with the next tier up 618 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: in golfers and the cats out of the bag, and 619 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 4: it's going to be our days of stealing Chez are 620 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 4: over boys. Unfortunately, he's also ninety seven hundred draft kings. 621 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: He's the six sixth highest this week, so those days 622 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 4: of stealing him are toast, which which pains me. It 623 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: is awful. But please, you're on the clock. But what 624 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: kind of money am I working with? What what price range? 625 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: Sixty six is our average? We need to be in 626 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: the seven k range here? All right, a little seven burger, 627 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 4: you know what, Let's go Adam Long. He's been playing 628 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: fairly well. He's at sixty nine hundred. I don't know 629 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: where he finished last week, but was playing really well 630 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: for a long time. And another one of those guys 631 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: just from you know, being around him, kind of a 632 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: streaky dude. So I don't know if if we're having 633 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 4: around the seven k range, I think he's as good 634 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: to pick as any. 635 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, as a tournament play, that makes a lot of sense. 636 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: I do you think here's a lot of risk. He's 637 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: only made eight of twenty cuts. 638 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, he's a feaster fam and it seems. 639 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, so tournament lineup, I like that. I'm gonna 640 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 3: go with von Taylor, who I mentioned earlier. Good seventy hundred. 641 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: He's playing great golf just from a statistical standpoint. He 642 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: looks very strong as well. And I'll buy the trend 643 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: some people believe in, you know, great Sunday round the 644 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: tournament before. I think it's somewhat noisy, but I do 645 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: like the overall recent form of Von Taylor, which I 646 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: think is important, especially since we don't have any context 647 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: for course history or that much on course fit. We 648 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: have seventy six hundred left syllable. 649 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: Where are you going, bud Well? 650 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 5: I like Mackenzie Hughes at seventy six hundred. 651 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: But if there's one thing I've learned from Peter Jennings 652 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: over the years, it's leave some money on the table. 653 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: If we're putting this in as a tournament team, I 654 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: don't want to use up all the money, and so 655 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm going a little bit lower. And a guy I 656 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: mentioned just sort of briefly in passing, but JJ Spawn's 657 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: put up some decent numbers. He makes a lot of cuts, 658 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: which I think when you're getting a guy who's at 659 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: the low end of the price scale, you want to 660 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: make sure he makes cuts. He's made fourteen of twenty 661 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: so far this year. He finished in thirtieth last week, 662 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: forty fourth in the start before that. 663 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 5: So trending in the right direction. So I'm going JJ 664 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 5: Spahn right there. 665 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: All right, I love it. We will make sure to 666 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: get this in. We have to make sure this happens 667 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: this week. Matsiama, Nieman Sung, jm Adam Long, Von Taylor, 668 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: and Jjspahn. 669 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: So fun times. 670 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: As always, guys, make sure to subscribe to the Action 671 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: Network podcast feed. Good luck this week at the Rocket 672 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: Mortgage Classic, and we'll catch you guys next week