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Speaker 1: because it's a it's a fun giggly story. Today it's

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Speaker 1: true and it's a nice, beautiful day. You just took

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm so glad to have you for another episode.

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving doth approach traditional way of saying it, I think.

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Speaker 1: But today we have a really fun story that you

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Speaker 1: few years ago in northern Virginia, a love story hatched

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Speaker 1: being the unlikely life partner of a very difficult female

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Speaker 1: named Walnut. She is a white naped crane from China.

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Speaker 1: And most of the story comes from this Washington Post

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Speaker 1: article by Sadie Dingfelder. And then there's a few conservation

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Speaker 1: There's memes people share have you heard this story? It was?

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Speaker 1: It's from the early two thousands, and then the Washington

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Speaker 1: going around, of course we thought, well, we have to

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Speaker 1: obsessed with this story. Have you heard about this crane?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I know exactly what we're

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Speaker 1: I say we flap our wings and get right into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Walnuts. Hey, their friends come listen. Well, Elien

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Speaker 1: and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking,

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Speaker 1: a romantic tips, it's just about ridiculous relationships, a lover.

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Speaker 1: It might be any type of person at all, and

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, so our hero in this story Chris Crow.

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Speaker 1: This man was born in nineteen seventy six in the

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Speaker 1: stepping out. So in the seventeen hundreds, they were between

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Speaker 1: that strongly imprinted, because she was like obsessed with humans

425
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: and she had no time for cranes at all, Like

426
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: she was like a crane. She was like, I'm gonna

427
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: move to New York City with eight dollars in my

428
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: pocket and become famous, just like Madonna. It's like I

429
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: got dreams, dreams, these legs, yes, going places. But this

430
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: level of attention is really bad for walnuts because cranes

431
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: mate for life, and they are not solitary animals. They

432
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: thrive in pairs. So if you imprint one too hard

433
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: and they really don't see themselves as a crane, they're

434
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: going to be lonely. You're dooming them to a lonely life.

435
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: And Walnut ended up being transferred from Zooda Zoo on

436
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: this nationwide hunt for love everybody was trying to pair

437
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: Walnut up with someone, but no matter how hard she looked,

438
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: she just could not find a mate. In fact, somewhere

439
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: along the line, it was rumored that Walnut had even

440
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: murdered other male cranes. Two of them. They said she

441
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: sliced their bellies open after they made advances on her day. Yeah,

442
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: this girl is not crane called me. It's like, I

443
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: don't got time for you. How did you just bob

444
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: your head at me? I don't think so, slash slash.

445
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: So no zoo has ever actually admitted to that happening.

446
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: But I mean, these are very rare birds and it

447
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: would be pretty embarrassing if one of them died on

448
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: their watches, so they probably wouldn't admit it. But like,

449
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: somehow this bird's stomach got sliced open. Who who knows

450
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: how that happened. Keepers of Walnut later on said, yeah,

451
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: it probably happened. Probably yeah, But in either case, Walnut

452
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: just was not finding love tonight on the hatch Laurette,

453
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: finding a mate hasn't been easy, but Walnut isn't ready

454
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: to fly away just yet. Bobo is a handsome crane

455
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: who made a fortune in the stork market, but his

456
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: resurface tweets make him a hawkward choice. Last night, Walnut

457
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: and Lucky shared a special moment all the cocktails until

458
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: he stuck his beak where it didn't belong, but he

459
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: says he has no regrets. Well, that's it's time for

460
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: you to choose who will go home and who will

461
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: get the gift of a dead mouse carcass. Oh and

462
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: it looks like Walnut has eaten the mouse herself and

463
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: she's oh god, oh god, she's decapitated both of her suitors. Well, this,

464
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: this is flocking unprecedented. But we promised you Walnut is

465
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: going to find what But these birds don't work for peanuts.

466
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: So we're going to go to a commercial break and

467
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: be right back. All right, and we're back. I'm ready

468
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: to watch that. Yes, I would totally want somebody called

469
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: the guys who put on the puppy bowl. Whoever puts

470
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: on the poppy bowl, they need to also have the hatchlor. Okay,

471
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: So Walnut is having a tough time finding love. None

472
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: of the zoos were able to find her a mate,

473
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: and she wasn't fulfilling her birdly duties in terms of

474
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: helping repopulate her species. I got some birdly duties on

475
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: the car the other day. Some birds are more dedicated

476
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: to their duty than others. Yes. So ultimately she was

477
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: sent off to the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute with the

478
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: hopes that she could pair with another bird there, or

479
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: at the very least, she would live out her life

480
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: in a protected space that could provide for her. So

481
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: sort of like, we hope, because she's so genetically useful,

482
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: I hope you can made her. But at least she'll

483
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: be somewhere safe. It's very similar to what your parents

484
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: said when you met me. They pulled me aside and

485
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: they were like, we're hoping this works out, but at

486
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the very least, you know she'll she won't go hungry.

487
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: It's true. It's trying to think it worked out. I

488
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: would eat nothing but butter noodles. So she arrived in

489
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and as the off spring of

490
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: two wild caught birds, Walnut was considered the most genetically

491
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: valuable white naped crane in captivity. And that kind of

492
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: genetic diversity doesn't just fall into your lap. So they

493
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: knew they needed to get some babies out of this bird, right,

494
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: They were like, what have we got to do. So

495
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: this murder bird shows up and the people at SCB

496
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I need to assign her a keeper. So they're all

497
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: having a meeting about it. They're hanging out in this room,

498
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: and they all slowly turned their heads to the back

499
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: of the room and stared at the new guy, Chris Crow,

500
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: like last one and first one out all right. In

501
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: his first week, Chris was charged with caring for seventeen

502
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: cranes and thirty six ducks. I'm assuming that's a normal

503
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: number to start with. A lot sounds like a lot

504
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: to me. Birds on his plate like one one. Robin

505
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: would be like, that's okay, give me a couple of

506
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: weeks with this bird. But Walnuts stood out amongst all

507
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: these other birds. When Chris approached the chain link fence

508
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: where the birds were kept, most of them scurried away,

509
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: but Walnuts she strutted right up. She ruffled her feathers,

510
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: and she started growling. He said quote I didn't quite

511
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: understand at this point, but these were territorial displays, like

512
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: this bird was not afraid to draw a line and

513
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: set boundaries right. And cranes they don't mess around. They

514
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: have razor sharp claws, and they can tear through skin

515
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: and clothes like with precisions. I mean literally that Jurassic

516
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Park scene about the velociraptors right slash slash, and then

517
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: you look down and you see your guts spilling out,

518
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, what happened? Like why am I a duck?

519
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: Why did I folk with this creed? I know, but

520
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean maybe not the razor sharp claws part, but boundaries.

521
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: We should all have some white naped crane energy about

522
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: our boundaries. And if you need the razor sharp claws,

523
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: you know you need the razor. But when spring came around,

524
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: they were very excited because they finally found a good

525
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: genetic match for walnuts. Now here's something I bet you

526
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: didn't know existed, the Association of Zoos and Aquariums. White

527
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: naped Crane stud book, stud Books book. I wonder if

528
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm in any stud books out there, they're like, well, nut,

529
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: why don't you flip through these pages and pick your favorite,

530
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: just like, well, this guy's a Harvard grub, that's pretty hot.

531
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: This guy can plute the piano. This guy's a duck.

532
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Does he know? I don't think this is my species?

533
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: And the az a says, quote, the purpose of a

534
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: stud book compiled and maintained by an as a regional

535
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: stud book keeper. What a job is to document the

536
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: pedigree and entire demographic history of each animal within a

537
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: managed population. Okay, yeah, I feel like I feel like

538
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: I've heard of these for like horses actually like breaders,

539
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: you know they track the lineage there. Yeah, yeah, because

540
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean that it's a huge business too if you

541
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: if you have a good breeding horse man, make a

542
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: lot of money off of that. My entire understanding of

543
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: breeding racing horses comes from the movie Headalgo with Vigo Mortenson.

544
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: What a great movie. That's a great fun adventure movie.

545
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: And I think it revolves around somebody having a secret

546
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: stud book, you know, about the perfect, these perfect Arabian

547
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: horses that the prince was breeding. I just think about

548
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Ozark when they found that really expensive race horse that

549
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: they were trying to breathe that operation. They were like,

550
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: what the fun I forgot about you Ark, our good

551
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: friend Jason Bateman's show. Yeah yeah, you know, we got

552
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: to support our friends. So anyway, the stud bookkeeper consulted

553
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: the ancient text and determined that the best mate for

554
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Walnut is a crane named Ray Ray, and that brings

555
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: us to this episode side chick. So Ray already had

556
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: a mate named Abigail, and Abigails to take no ship, bitch,

557
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: She wasn't about to have some murderous crane been bouncing

558
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: around from zoo to zoo picking up who knows what

559
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: along the way come in and take my stead. So

560
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: ultimately Ray was not a good option for Walnut after all,

561
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: and you can be sure he's spent all night in

562
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: the hen and house. After even having the audacity to

563
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: suggest such a thing to Abigail, she said, you sleep

564
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: on the couch tonight and think about what you did,

565
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: and then we'll have nine more eggs tomorrow. Right, So

566
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: the only option left to breed Walnut was artificial insemination,

567
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: and obviously this is not fun for anyone. At least

568
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: two people have to first go get bird semen from

569
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: an unwilling bird, which I guess we'll just leave to

570
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: your imagination. Again, a weird job animal conservation. You are

571
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: you just like I grew up as a kid being

572
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: like I'll be a firefighter and then the next thing

573
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, like it turns out of a stud bookkeeper

574
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: for white naped cranes or my job today is to

575
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: jack off an unwilling crane. Like, what a weird world.

576
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: It's not it's not glamorous the conservation life, but it's

577
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: it's meaningful. So once they get this bird semen, they

578
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: of course then have to go injected into a female bird.

579
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: Now there's a whole process here that's been studied and

580
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: modified over the year to be the least stressful to

581
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: birds as possible, because obviously these are people who care

582
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: about wildlife and they don't want to put them through trauma.

583
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: It's also can be very dangerous obviously, razor sharp claws, boundaries,

584
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: you know. So here's how Washington Post describes walnuts first

585
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: encounter with this. Chris and another zookeeper grab Walnut from

586
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: underneath her wings, and the zookeeper holds her between his

587
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: legs while Chris crouched behind her and quote massaged walnuts

588
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: cloaca an all purpose orifice that birds use for defecation

589
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: as well as reproduction. They apply gentle pressure to her

590
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: back to mimic the weight of a male crane, and Walnut,

591
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, seems to respond to that. She purrs, her

592
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: cloaca opens and Chris quickly and chected her with the

593
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: semen they'd collected from Ray. Again, what do I do today? Guys? Oh,

594
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm massaging a butthole. Apparently that's my that's my job.

595
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: And a few weeks later, Walnut laid her first two

596
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: fertilized eggs, but they had to take these away from

597
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 1: her and secretly slipped them into Ray and Abigail's nest

598
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: because wild cranes take turns sitting on their eggs, and

599
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: it would have just been too much for Walnut to

600
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: care for them all by herself because of course she

601
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have an actual crane partner. And plus they weren't

602
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: even sure if Walnut, you know, saw herself as a bird,

603
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: so they were like, she might not even recognize the

604
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: baby cranes as her own. Once they hatched, she could

605
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: possibly kill. Yeah, she thinks she's Madonna, and then some

606
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: birds hatching her hat and nests just gonna be like, yeah,

607
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: get these monsters out of here? Is this? Yeah? Can

608
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: you also? Can you imagine Abigail and Ray like, and

609
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: Abigail's like, I don't remember laying these two extra eggs. Ray,

610
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: where did these come from? Huh? He's like, I really

611
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Some people came in and gave me a

612
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: job and left. Next thing I knew, we got two

613
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: extra babies. I swear, baby, I never left the nest.

614
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: That was like three cranes, baby cranes in his arms

615
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: and his wings. He's like, I don't know, two more.

616
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can handle this, honey. It's like, Mari,

617
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: but who's the mothers? They're like, who the fuck is

618
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: the mother? Because it's not my wife, Abigail, you are

619
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: not the mother of these birds. She gets so ball mad.

620
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: But no, Fortunately Abigail did not dip these eggs out

621
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: of her desk or reject them or anything like that.

622
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: The babies hatched, they had two new birds from a

623
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: completely new genetic line. They were finally here to diversify

624
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: the species, so that went well. But this was not

625
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: going to be the only time that they did this process, obviously,

626
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: because again, while Nut's still the most valuable crane in captivity,

627
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: and she would need to produce chicks every year, and

628
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: this artificial insemination processes we've talked about sounds and was

629
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: difficult and dangerous and the risk of injury to either

630
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: the bird or the humans doing it was very, very high.

631
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: The stress of the situation could lead to problems with fertilization,

632
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: which makes sense to me. I mean, if you're sitting,

633
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: you're struggling, freaking out, who's to say your body reacts properly,

634
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: you know. And Chris had really grown to care about Walnut.

635
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's there to care about the birds, like

636
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: he's completely indifferent or whatever, right, and he was just

637
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: kind of like, I wish there was something, there's another way.

638
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: I wish this was a bit easier and not so

639
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: traumatizing for her. So later that summer, well, that's behavior

640
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: started to change around Chris. When he approached her yard,

641
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: she started bobbing her head and raising her wings up

642
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: and down, which actually are the first moves of the

643
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: white naped cranes mating dance. At first, Chris thought that

644
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: she was just excited to see him, but then he

645
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: saw other pairs of cranes doing the same dance. So

646
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: he's feeling kind of silly, and he starts looking around

647
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: making sure, you know, nobody else is watching, and Chris

648
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: starts imitating her. He bobbed his head when she did.

649
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: He would raise his arms, you know, when she starts

650
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: flapping her wings and move his legs like she did.

651
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: They would circle each other, and sometimes Walnut would even

652
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: tilt her head back and make this loud, trumpeting crow.

653
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: But so far this was about all that ever happened,

654
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: and as summer turned to fall, Walnut seemed to get

655
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: less and less interested in dancing with Chris. Alright, hot crane,

656
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: summer was over, cigner, cold turkey fall. It's just like

657
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm tucking it in, you know, put some weight on,

658
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, I don't worry about it, you know, get

659
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: under a blanket, shutting down my tinder profile, my tinder bird.

660
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: What is it? Tint um tinder bird is the best time?

661
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: That's the best? Not very good. Later in the episode,

662
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, I got it, You'll get there.

663
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: But then the next spring she started up again, and

664
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: Chris started to think, you know, if I can win

665
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: this bird over, maybe the artificial insemination process would be

666
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: easier and safer and maybe even consensual. That'd be exciting.

667
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: But cranes are picky mates, So how is he going

668
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: to get under those feathers. Well we'll find out right

669
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: after this commercial beak and welcome back to the show

670
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Bertie's so yeah. So Chris Crow is trying to slow

671
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: into walnuts d M. I mean, he's really just trying

672
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: to stop forced breeding this bird and make it a

673
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: little more pleasant for everyone. And she's shown some interest,

674
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: so he does what any good boyfriend would do. He

675
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: starts paying attention. Chris. He's listening, He's learning what she

676
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: likes and what turns her on. He's responding to her

677
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: cues and giving her what she needs. I mean, no

678
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: wonder she fell in love. This is like people say

679
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: about Pete Davidson. They're like, how does he keep getting

680
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: these girls? And they're like, well, he's nice. I know,

681
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: well he's actually just nice guy. Or Carlo Ponti, Yeah,

682
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, similar things. She's just like he was just

683
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: nice to me, just like Governor or Morris, like I

684
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: would just listen to him. And they're like, too much.

685
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: He's setting the bar pretty either. So first Chris started

686
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: to observe other cranes in the sanctuary, and there was

687
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: a parent named Brenda and Eddie who performed a very

688
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: similar dance, and Brenda seemed to love it when Eddie

689
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: brought her material for her nest. You know, ladies love

690
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: a home good all right. So Chris thought maybe gifts

691
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: were the way to Walnut's heart, and he started approaching

692
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: her with sticks and straws, you know, given it a whirl.

693
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: But she was very picky. Uh, okay, you gotta get

694
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: it right. Don't just bring a basket, bring the right basket. Uh.

695
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: Some of the sticks and twigs and stuff he would

696
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: give her, she would like toss away, like no garbage.

697
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: What did you go to the dollar tree? Do you

698
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: name it? Do I have to start doing the shopping

699
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: to while others seemed just right, that's that crighton barrels

700
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: a good ship. And he studied the difference and realized

701
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: that she was very particular about the length and circumference

702
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: of individual sticks. Ladies size matters, And later he said,

703
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: the year to year, those preferences changed in so he

704
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: was probably like, I got it down. She likes a

705
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: six inch stick that's about two inches in girth, and

706
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: then like the next year she's like four inch six

707
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: Only I really have it just a different pattern in mind.

708
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Centimeters are in this year. But yeah, but when he

709
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: got it right, she loved it. She was always very happy.

710
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: So he was really trying to play to her preferences,

711
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: figure out what she liked, and then provide that thing. Yeah, yeah,

712
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a lesson. Pretty smart. But despite all this, you know,

713
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: stick giving and nest building while it's still had a

714
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: strict no touching rule, and Chris wanted to respect that.

715
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: She said, Chris, there's a PG relationship. Okay, we can talk,

716
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: stay up all night on the phone, laughing. You can

717
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: bring me gifts. I could be very delighted by you,

718
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: but you keep those fleshy mits to yourself. That's right.

719
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: This is like a first grade boyfriends. Yeah, like, we're

720
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: not doing any of that stuff. Yeah, we gotta some

721
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: room for Jesus when we're dancing, you know. And so,

722
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: like training any intelligent animal, Chris starts to use positive reinforcement.

723
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: He would stretch his arm out and kind of gently

724
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: brush her tail feathers, and then immediately toss her her

725
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: favorite treat, a dead mouse. And slowly, but surely, Chris

726
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: went from ruffling her feathers to push in her buttons,

727
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: and soon Walnut even started purring like a cat when

728
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: he pet her. That would be very flattering. Oh yeah,

729
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: if a bird started purring at me, I'd be like God,

730
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: I must be doing something right. And then one day

731
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: the magic happened. Chris was stroking Walnut's back. She was hurring,

732
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: her eyes were half closed. She had a coy little

733
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: smile on her beak. And then she decided, Yeah, this

734
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: guy is the one. I can give it up to

735
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: him herself. So she turned away from She's it's okay,

736
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: ladies had my standard and gentlemen, you know what, don't

737
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: just let the first bird who flutters over fall into

738
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: your nests. Ever, the first guy whose massages your back. Yeah,

739
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: don't you wake up for the first guy who structure back.

740
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was working out for her. She turned

741
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: away from him. She extended her wings and lifted her tail,

742
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: and the Washington Post articles says she was asking Chris

743
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: to perform something called the cloacle kiss. Look, I'm not

744
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: here to yuck anybody's yum birds. I don't want to

745
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: kiss any cloacas of any species. So for most birds,

746
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: males and females, they both have a cloaca. Mating occurs

747
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: briefly when they kind of bump uglies and just like

748
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: bump them together, and it's all good. And Chris said, quote,

749
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: it's what I had been working towards and hoping for,

750
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: but it was still surprising when it happened. I think

751
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: so if a bird was like offering up her blood

752
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: to me, I'd be like, oh, I'm all right, okay,

753
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: But you know, Chris, he's basically a bird virgin. And

754
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: he wasn't very good at first. You know, he wasn't

755
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: keeping it, wasn't keeping her satisfied. He had a hard

756
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: time figuring out what to do with his hands. He said.

757
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: He would start massaging her back where a male crane

758
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: would be, and she liked that, but when he moved

759
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: his hands to other areas, she would get huffy and

760
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: stop and walk away. He said, quote, it took a

761
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: little time for me to figure out how to have

762
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: one hand on one spot and another hand on the

763
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: other spot. Shut you know, we all have to learn that.

764
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: At some point it seems like a basic well but

765
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: eventually move to have your two hands in two different places.

766
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're nervous, you might freeze up

767
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: and be like these go here right, like okay, but

768
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: they can do or or you take him away and

769
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: she's like, no, I was enjoying that. You'd really kind

770
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: of you know, you gotta Consistency is important too. Sometimes

771
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: you really gotta keep going with the same motion, keep

772
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: your hands on the stands, you know, and and you

773
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: know you've got two hands. They could be doing two

774
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: different things. I'm just saying. I mean, I guess if

775
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: it's a bird, you might be like, well, I know what,

776
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: I know what human women like, but I have no

777
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: idea how different? How different is it? So eventually, though,

778
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: they got their routine down, and in March of two

779
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: thousand seven it was time to try. The real thing

780
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: was that this first, this first presentation that Walnut made

781
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: was in the winter. But you know, you couldn't fertilize

782
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: the bird then because it'd be too early to lay

783
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: the eggs. So they waited for spring. They got their

784
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: ray semen, and Chris and Walnut did their little dance,

785
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: their little ritual, and he was able to inject Walnut

786
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: without any help and her willing participation. High is the

787
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: way to go, Chris Crow, as of Walnut, and Chris

788
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: produced seven chicks this way, all of them raised by

789
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: other crane couples, and at least two of those chicks

790
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: have gone on to pair with other cranes so far.

791
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: And Bread other chicks of their own. So in fact,

792
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, walnuts title as most genetically

793
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: valuable crane in captivity was stolen by some bird named

794
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Amanda Well, and I was like, ah, sure, she's lame

795
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: as hale, but it was because it was for a

796
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: great reason, because walnuts jeans, you know, we're out there now,

797
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: they're mixing into the population. It was the kind of

798
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: title you want to lose, like, and Amanda had very

799
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: few relatives, so she was like a fresh genetic specimen.

800
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: And Amanda became another side chick for Chris. She was

801
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: sent to STBI to see if Chris could work his

802
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: mating magic with her too. So I guess the word

803
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: was getting around the conservation like this guy is really

804
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: good with his hands on these white naped cranes. And

805
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: now Chris Crow was very experienced. He were no bird

806
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: virgin anymore, so he had no trouble wooining coo in

807
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: this chick. And after that they sent him another difficult

808
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: to breed female named Woo Chang, and it was the

809
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: same thing, like she also was willing to quote unquote

810
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: mate with Chris, but he says that the birds can't

811
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: see each other with him, or they'll get crazy jealous. Okay,

812
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: no polyamory in the white naped crane community. He said, quote,

813
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: I have called them by the wrong name before, but

814
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 1: they don't seem to notice. While it's like, who's wood

815
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: che Like she turns her head, Amanda what? And Amanda

816
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: and Woo Chang were both actually able to pair off

817
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: with other male cranes. But for Walna and Chris, this

818
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: is the real thing, and they're paired for life. The

819
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: Smithsonian says the oldest known crane lived to be forty

820
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: five years old in captivity, and right now Walna is

821
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: forty one, but Washington Post reported that they could live

822
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: as old as sixty, so in theory, Walna and Chris

823
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: could still be together for maybe even another two decades.

824
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Chris is forty five right now, I believe Eve, So

825
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: you know this could be a substantial part of his life. Um,

826
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it already has in a lot

827
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: of ways. Chris loves birds, but he did say that

828
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: his dream job would be to go back with the

829
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: wolf free introduction programs. That was something he really was

830
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: passionate about. He loves wolves. He's like, people shouldn't be

831
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: so scared of wolves because they're really amazing. They're really

832
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: important ecologically. But the article does point out that wolf

833
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: free introduction programs are more controversial and therefore they're harder

834
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: to come by, but crane programs are an easy cell.

835
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: People love these beautiful birds. You know, they're not a threat.

836
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: People are more than willing to support their repopulation efforts,

837
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: So those programs get a lot more funding. They can

838
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: hire more people, there's more of them, and their image

839
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: makes them a really good umbrella species, which is a

840
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: single animal that draws a lot of attention to conservation

841
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: for an entire ecosystem, like panda's yeah, or dolphins exactly. Yeah,

842
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: there's just one. I'm just thinking of all the movies

843
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: as a kid. It was like a chimpanzee and a

844
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: ring attan, you know what I mean. It was just

845
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: the one that made you care enough about wildlife that

846
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: you'd be like, you know, I guess also you should

847
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: save a bug and a reptile. Yeah, you might be like,

848
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: we have to save this centipede, and everyone's like, I

849
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: don't care about the squish it it's gross, all right,

850
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: how about I have to save this adorable monkey and

851
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: They're like, yes, protect that habitat cool. Yeah I will. Yeah.

852
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: But despite Chris's interest in wolves, he says he could

853
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: never leave Walnut. He said, quote, if she's still here

854
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: when I'm eligible for retirement, I won't be able to leave.

855
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: I just feel like a jerk. Oh that's dedication, because yeah,

856
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: these birds mate for life, and Chris had seen firsthand

857
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: what happens when a crane loses their mate. It's very traumatic.

858
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: They may stop eating, They sometimes cry loudly for weeks

859
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: at a time. Must be so hard to hear that

860
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: I can't even say anything or like my human instinct

861
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: to like go sit with comfort an upset animal and

862
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: stroke them or try to make them feel better, Like

863
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: you can't do that at all. You just kind of

864
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: have to let it be. I must be just very difficult.

865
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: So Chris knows that, and you know, he doesn't want

866
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: to be the source of that kind of trauma grief

867
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: for Walnuts. So he's very committed to this partnership. He

868
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: continues to spend every day with her. He dances and

869
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: performs their mating ritual when she asks. Although it's unlikely

870
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: that the stead book will call on Walnut to actually

871
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: breed again, so fortunately he doesn't have to do so much.

872
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: Chloek is stroking and stuff, and Chris says, you know,

873
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: he's heard every joke a hundred thousand times. I mean,

874
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure his favorite is what's the difference between erotic

875
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: and kinky? I don't know what difference. Erotic you use

876
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: a feather, Kinky you use the whole bird. And of himself.

877
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: He said, quote, I'll never find a woman that's so

878
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: happy to see me that she just starts dancing. Now, Chris,

879
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 1: don't sell yourself so short. There might be a lady

880
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: out there's willing to lift her wings for you. You know. Now,

881
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: after they go through their little mating ritual, walnut may

882
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: lay unfertilized eggs, and Crisp will replace those with fake

883
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: ones because the real ones would just rot and attract

884
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: pests and and crows like real crows, not cris crow.

885
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Um and uh. And that would actually make Walnut lay more.

886
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: That's I guess, just an instinct. Better crank out another one,

887
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, if you saw one like oh that

888
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: didn't hatch, there's something wrong with it. I need to overproduce.

889
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: So he puts dummy eggs in her nest, which she'll

890
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: sit on for hours. But like we said, it's too

891
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: much work for a single bird to sit on her

892
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: nest all day. So like a good partner, Chris will

893
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: come in and he'll he'll stand by the nest. He'll say,

894
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: all right, go take a break, and she'll get up

895
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: and wander off, knowing that he's going to keep an

896
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: eye on these eggs, that they're safe. She'll go down

897
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: to the water, she'll bathe, she'll strut around for a while,

898
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe fifty twenty minutes, and then she'll come back to

899
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: set on the nest again. He's doing his part to

900
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: raise the children, or the fake children. And yeah, because

901
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, because these cranes mate for life, they almost

902
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: never step out of each other's sight. But of course

903
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Chris can't be there twenty four hours a day. He

904
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: doesn't work weekends, so he's not it's not quite the same.

905
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: But she's so excited to see him every morning. When

906
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: he returns, she greets him with dances and purring sounds,

907
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: and she does know that whenever he leaves, he'll be back.

908
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: And Chris says, her endless love is inspiring. He said,

909
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: quote the ideal partner doesn't exist. You have to accept

910
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: certain things that people can't change. I mean, she puts

911
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: up with me even though I can't dance or sing,

912
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: and sure enough, all summer long, five days a week,

913
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Chris goes through the motions with his crane wife. He says,

914
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: it's quote not exactly fun for me, but it keeps

915
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: well nut happy, and ultimately, he says, hopefully it's just

916
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: a goofy story that will get people's attention, because white

917
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: naped cranes are continuing to decline in the wild, largely

918
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: because people just don't seem to care that much when

919
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: measured up against expansion and profit and all of our

920
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: other human impulses. Yeah, I know, right, and sometimes we

921
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: just don't know. Like one of the white naped crane's

922
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: habitats in winters that they migrate to is actually the

923
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: demilitarized zone between North and South Korea, right, Like we

924
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: all want that conflict to subside, but these birds have

925
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: been settling there for a long time. And if and

926
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: when that does happen and they take those walls down,

927
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: there's already developers and farmers that have their sites set

928
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: on that land. I read they're even considering building this

929
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: unification city in between the two Koreas. So whatever they do,

930
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: that habitat is going to get wiped out. So hopefully

931
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: Chris is right and this goofy story will just help

932
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: people to understand that these are living things with thoughts

933
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: and feelings and love and attachment, you know, when they're

934
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: they deserve to be saved. Now we'll go ahead and

935
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: say that you can donate to the s cb I

936
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: through National Zoo dot s I, dot e d U

937
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: slash Conservation UM or just you know, find a local

938
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: wildlife conservation effort in your area see what you can do.

939
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: Or now I'm gonna say something crazy. Right now, we

940
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: could we could make some big changes. Look at our

941
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: own consumption habits, maybe try to trace them back to

942
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: the damage that they might do, and just just see

943
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: what we can do to minimize and reduce and reuse

944
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 1: and recycling all those good things that might help uh,

945
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, might help out Walnut and her friends. Sounds hard. Look, yes,

946
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: we can blame the corporations for how they're destroying the world,

947
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: and we should, and we should. But also, honestly, I

948
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: think corporations are the ones saying that I've heard a

949
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: lot of people saying in the last few years, like,

950
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, the real real people to go after are

951
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: these businesses because they're responsible. And I'm like, yes, true,

952
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: But also, don't you think the corporations are dropping that

953
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: message because it tells all people like, don't change your

954
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: purchasing habits, blame us, you know, don't change what you're doing. Yeah,

955
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: oh we're the bad guys. That's fine, just keep buying stuff,

956
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just saying it's both, Yeah, it's us

957
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: and them. It might just be one of those horrible

958
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: catch twenty two because it is like an individual going

959
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: to zero waste is simply not going to do enough

960
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: unless companies stop packaging everything in plastic. I mean especially

961
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: you know now you're seeing in the grocery store a

962
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: single banana wrapped in plastic or fucking orange or something,

963
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: and you're like, why, what is the point of that.

964
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: I always thought it was so weird at Trader Joe's

965
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: that you can't get produce just pick out produced, like

966
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: you have to get three shrink wrapped tomatoes together. Um,

967
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I know, you know, you and

968
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I were not like great at zero waste or anything.

969
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: But they're definitely trying to cut as much plastic Adam

970
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: lives as we can. You know, there's a few changes.

971
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that we're super inconveniencing ourselves

972
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: or something, but there's little things you can do that

973
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: you barely even notice. The difference between trying and you

974
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: know what the eighties, you know, when nobody even fucking tried. Uh,

975
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a big difference difference. I think

976
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: it helps. Um, so think about Walnut next time. Yeah,

977
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: I love this story. I also love his name is

978
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: Chris crow Like, I don't we haven't really gotten into that,

979
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I've heard it, I know, But

980
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: I just think that's incredible that he's like, I want

981
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: to look like bison or like wolves. And they're like, actually,

982
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: you're like J. K. Rowling game where you're sorry, you're

983
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: going to work. You're gonna work with animals, Okay, Chris Crowe,

984
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're gonna work with the birds. Okay. Oh man?

985
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: And I really love um there's something better sweet about

986
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 1: it too, because I mean this is a guy who's

987
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: really put his life on hold. Yeah. Um, I mean

988
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: it's it's a real commitment to this bird that even

989
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: though it's just his working hours, um, that's his Like

990
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: he said, he couldn't not couldn't necessarily retire if he

991
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: wanted to, because he's got this commitment to a living

992
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: thing that depends on him emotionally, physically. You know, if

993
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: he went away, it could destroy them. And you've got

994
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: to imagine he has those moments where he's like picturing

995
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: his life after Walnut and how much freedom he might

996
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: earn from that. But then that comes with guilt too. Yeah,

997
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: but don't even like if she did passed away in

998
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years. You know, she was such a

999
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: big part of his days and his life that even

1000
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: if he was kind of like one day, it'll be

1001
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: nice to not worry about this, Like it would still

1002
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: be a giant void, you know. Again, much like having

1003
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: to take care of like an older family member or

1004
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: an older pet or something where they're just becoming more

1005
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: of a full time job than you expected. And of

1006
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: course you don't want to like dip out and leave him,

1007
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, without you defenseless and whatever. But you find yourself,

1008
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: as you say, guiltily, kind of shamefully thinking about that.

1009
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: How nice it would be to not have to worry

1010
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: about that and then immediately probably or even at the

1011
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: same time feeling incredibly sad to think about that presence

1012
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: not being in your life anymore. Even if it was

1013
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: a lot of work or difficult or whatever, it's still

1014
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: someone or something that you love very much. And you're

1015
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: like I, I get frustrated all the time, but I

1016
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: would rather do this than not have you at all,

1017
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, and you just must be very, like you said,

1018
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: a kind of a tug of war within your an

1019
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: internal sort of tug of war. And when you commit

1020
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: to a living thing, a person, or an animal, um

1021
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: or a plant, even I suppose to some degree, like

1022
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: you need to consider those challenges and you need to

1023
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: understand that you are committing to the responsibility of those

1024
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: challenges as well. And I think this is so such

1025
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: a fascinating story, how Chris just gets He didn't grow

1026
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: up thinking I'm gonna I'm gonna impregnate a single bird

1027
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 1: over and over again when I grow up, but holes

1028
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: all day long. But that's where he ended up, and

1029
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: he and he loves and he's committed to it. It's

1030
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: amazing and it's important work, and clearly he's he's made

1031
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: a huge difference with this, this partnership in the population

1032
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: of the white naped crane. Probably a lot of other

1033
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: less directly affecting, but a lot of other conservation efforts

1034
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 1: in terms of habitats and so on that are coming

1035
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: from that work and being able to say, well, now

1036
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: we got way more cranes that need somewhere to live,

1037
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: so you know, we gotta work on that. You know,

1038
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: on and on. It's like ripples in a pond or whatever.

1039
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: And so it's just really cool to see somebody dedicate

1040
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: their life to something so selfless. Man, it's so weird.

1041
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: Because there's some animal news lately that I've been very

1042
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: fascinated by, like evolutionarily, Like they were talking about how

1043
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: um elephants are now evolving to have smaller tests or

1044
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: no tests at all because then they won't be poached,

1045
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: which is so crazy to think about your body figuring

1046
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: that out and genetically modifying itself. Like that's or I

1047
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: guess it's just because they just don't have them and

1048
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: then they make that natural selection. Yeah, with the little

1049
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: tusks live and the ones with big tusks get murdered. Murders,

1050
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: they have to, and then they were talking of that

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Speaker 1: bird that went extinct and then re evolved itself to

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Speaker 1: being alive now, and I'm like, well, that's great new

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Speaker 1: I guess. I guess it's cool that he managed to

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01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: figure it out. But that's so crazy too to think about.

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Speaker 1: You know. I just I wonder if one day you

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01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: woke up and found out the Dodo's back, or you

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01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: know that, you know, I've found of a loss of

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01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: raptor in the Amazon or something like what how I

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I just worked out evolutionarily for it to

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: come back. No, But anyway, I'm so glad that we

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01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: got a chance to do this story because I really

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01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: I think I squealed with delight when I came across

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: My time was definitely and we were like, maybe it's

1064
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: too weird. I don't know if it's a real romance.

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01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: And then y'all were like, do this story. So I'm

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Speaker 1: very glad that we got a chance to shoehorn it in.

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Speaker 1: Definitely shoe billet in. I was going to come with

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Speaker 1: a bird tend tinder. Oh yeah, you're working at a

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: bird tender. Well, fender would be the fish one obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's easy. You um but for birds, it's probably like

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: um should be like called birds of a feather or

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Speaker 1: like flock together, oh yeah, or like flocker flocker. Flocker

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: is good, but I feel like that's for like bird

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01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: or right, that's the tint, the tint. It's like Grinder's

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01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: bird grinders flocker, You're like, you're just there for the

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Speaker 1: grinder and different well grinders mostly I think for a

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Speaker 1: gay but same same thing, right. Otherwise, then Tender came

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: out and it was more of a hook up app

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01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: okay for also straight people. And then like coffee meats,

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01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: bagel or match or Cupid or what. I don't know

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01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: all the there's so many hinge is there something there?

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01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: Sake meets bagel, well, whatel squawky meets bagel, birds love bagels.

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01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: Who doesn't love a bagel? I mean, come on, that's

1084
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: I could use a bagel right now. I think flockers,

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01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: I think I think you got it with flocks krylocker, no,

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01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: see no flucker flucker and their their taglines get flocked.

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: You're ready to flock? Yeah, there's hot singles waiting to

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: flock with you, Hot single birds ready to migrade to

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01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: your area. Wow. Well anyway, we hope that you enjoyed

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: this story as much as we did. As always, we

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: love hearing from you. Please do reach out with your

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: thoughts and feelings and concerns or questions or whatever. I

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: don't care. Tell us a story. We're here. We're here

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Speaker 1: for it. Our email address is romance that I Hurt

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Speaker 1: Media dot com, or you can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram and flocker. I'm at Okrade, It's Eli. You

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Speaker 1: better not be on flocker. I'm at Dianamite Boom and

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Speaker 1: you can find the show at ridic Romance or just

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Speaker 1: send us carry your pigeon here you go. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't forget to rate and review on Apple podcast wherever.

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Speaker 1: We also love those. And whenever we get a review,

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Speaker 1: it's just like a little she she she always turns

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Speaker 1: around and uh flutters her feathers. I per my cloaco open.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, make my cloako open today with a great message.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we will see you all next time.

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Speaker 1: You have a great weekend everyone, So long, friends, it's

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Speaker 1: time to go. Thanks so listening to our show, tell

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Speaker 1: your friends names uncle's in dance to listen to what

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