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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a special Friday edition of Fair Territory,

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Speaker 1: a special Halloween edition of Fair Territory, and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: the Game six World Series Edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with my friend Alana Rizzo. We are

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Speaker 1: going to talk all things World Series and get into

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Speaker 1: some other things as well. Alana, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: How are you good afternoon? Always good to be with

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Speaker 2: you on this Friday. Ken, is your schedule is bananas

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Speaker 2: because of the World Series. But let's talk about Game six.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a guy on the hill, Ken

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Speaker 2: for the Dodgers, you want it to be Yoshinobu Yamamoto.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and back to back complete games in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: something that has not been done since Kurt Shilling for

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Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks in two thousand and one. He threw three straight. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers need him to be really good. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is an elimination game. This is it. But the other

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Speaker 1: part of this is, even if you can count on

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Speaker 1: Yamamoto to be really good, I don't know that you

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Speaker 1: can count on him to pitch a complete game. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot to ask. And then you have the bull

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Speaker 1: coming into play, and that's been the concern here. And

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, Alana. You know this because you follow the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers so closely. Their offense has been in and out

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Speaker 1: all season and right now it's out again. They need

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Speaker 1: to find it somehow. And granted they're facing great pitching.

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Speaker 1: You Savage was brilliant in Game five, but here they

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Speaker 1: are against Kevin Gossman. Tonight, Dave Roberts hinted at additional

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Speaker 1: lineup changes. We'll see what happens. They drop Mooky to

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Speaker 1: Bench pahes for ours call. There's not much more they

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Speaker 2: Honestly, you know what can we keep saying? What is

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Speaker 2: wrong with the Dodgers? Obviously they come into this World

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Speaker 2: Series as the favorites, of course, or the reigning World

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Speaker 2: Series champions, But perhaps we should be asking are the

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Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays the better team?

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Speaker 1: That's a fair question based on the way these teams

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Speaker 1: have played now over one hundred and sixty two, they

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Speaker 1: actually were better. They had ninety four wins, the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: had ninety three. And when you watch these teams play

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Speaker 1: against each other, you notice differences. The Blue Jays offense

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Speaker 1: certainly has not had a problem. They are a team

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Speaker 1: team that puts the ball in play, doesn't strike out much.

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Speaker 1: We've been through all of this already and it's been

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Speaker 1: very effective for them, even against better pitching in the postseason. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: there also is a difference, and as I wrote yesterday,

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Speaker 1: that play in right field, that the one the triple

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Speaker 1: between these teams. Defensively, the Dodgers are not as good defensively.

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Speaker 1: They had three wild pitches in that inning as well,

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Speaker 1: that four to run seven. So there's some things going

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Speaker 1: with a they need to play better. They need to

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Speaker 1: get their bullpen if they have to use it into

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Speaker 1: an effective mode, and it's been a problem for them,

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Speaker 2: Yeah can so maybe it's not what is wrong with

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, Perhaps it's what is right with the Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays as Alar eleven twenty nine brings up so well

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Speaker 2: in our chat by the way, you guys get your

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Speaker 2: questions in for Grill and Ken. You know, one thing

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Speaker 2: can besides the Dodgers being the heavy favorites coming into

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Speaker 2: the series is everything we talked about it on our

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Speaker 2: production call, right, So if we said apples to apples,

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Speaker 2: the teams are the same. The one thing that was

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Speaker 2: different was the experienced level of the Dodgers over the

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays, and not just with the roster, Ken, but

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Speaker 2: with the managers. Dave Roberts has been there, done that.

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Speaker 2: John Schneider kind of learning on the fly but doing

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Speaker 2: a very effective job. It doesn't seem like John Schneider

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Speaker 2: is it's the moment's not too big for him.

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Speaker 1: No, it hasn't been end up. By the way, our

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Speaker 1: producer Mark Wiener said that that's the Dodgers' offense calling.

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Speaker 1: They're probably going to call again. But regardless, the managerial

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Speaker 1: I think John Schneider learned from, and he has talked

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Speaker 1: If you remember the Barrios moment that was scripted right

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Speaker 1: He was pitching well. It was a silly thing to do,

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Speaker 1: and the front office was involved with that. Schneider took

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Speaker 1: the hit. We all know what happened. Since then, Schneider

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Speaker 1: that throughout the postseason. Now each manager, every manager in

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Speaker 1: is going to be the key question here. Can the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers show the resilience they showed last year when they

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Speaker 1: the Padres in San Diego, throwing a bullpen game with

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Speaker 1: way that one did? And this team you could certainly

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Speaker 1: say is more talented than that one was. I don't

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Speaker 2: Ken, Before we move on to the managerial moves in

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, have two more questions for your regarding this.

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Speaker 2: You talked about the team being perhaps more talented this year,

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Speaker 2: but Ken, they're also aging. Are we not talking about

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Speaker 2: that enough?

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Speaker 1: Well? I mentioned it in my column yesterday, and win

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I'm sorry. Freddie Freeman thirty six, Tao Mookie

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Speaker 1: certainly Freddy, while not as productive maybe as he was

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Speaker 1: the small sample size we're seeing in this World Series,

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Speaker 1: offensive numbers since the Wildcard round as a team are terrible,

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Speaker 1: and what we've seen Alana as we discussed, how they've

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Speaker 1: don't know how you address it. Maybe you sign Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 1: next year, but it's something that going forward could be

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Speaker 2: Before we move on Ken, how much is the Alex

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Speaker 2: VESSI a factor impacting this team.

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Speaker 1: It's a factor, no question, and they miss him. And

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Speaker 1: of course, if you don't know, he is out with

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Speaker 1: a family emergency, and he was off the roster for

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Speaker 1: roster making combined eighty five million in total guarantees. That's

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Speaker 1: a problem. They've had Blake trying to not be the

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Speaker 1: which he was brilliant but worked really hard. They lost

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Speaker 1: So their bullpen remains an issue. They've had Saki emerge

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sasaki has kind of been non existent in the

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Speaker 2: World Series as well. All right, let's move on our

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Speaker 2: focus here on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. There have

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Speaker 2: been some managerial postings Ken, and there are still three

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Speaker 2: teams that need a skipper. Let's start with the Washington Nationals.

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Speaker 2: They hired Blake Uta, a thirty three year old, as

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about him. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: He's obviously a guy who is extremely well thought of

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Speaker 1: then we've had also the hiring of Tony Vitello in

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Speaker 1: And the one point I want to make here, Derek

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Speaker 1: right Derek Shelton had managed Pittsburgh, he figured he would

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Speaker 1: get another chance. I'm not sure the teams here are

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Speaker 1: Maybe Tony Vitello is great, maybe Blake but Terra is great.

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Speaker 1: But I just wonder with Danny Lehman, the Dodgers bench coach,

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Speaker 1: seemingly could be a front runner for that job. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing here. Brandon Hyde, who was a very

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Speaker 1: not getting a shot. David Ross pretty successful with her,

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Speaker 1: certainly like Hyde deserving of another chance, and hey, he's

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Speaker 1: for all of these guys.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Derek Shelton going now to the Twins, and

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Speaker 2: no disrespect to either guy, but ken is Derek Shelton

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Speaker 2: Rocobaldelli two point zero? How do they differ?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, And certainly Shelton did not have success

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Speaker 1: He used to be in the organ and maybe that's

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Speaker 2: All right, it is time now for Grill and Ken.

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Speaker 2: is it? Ken? It's the Rockies, the Padres and the Braves.

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Speaker 2: All right, next question comes from ev Underscore Warrior Ken.

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Speaker 2: If we go to Game seven, should show Hey, oh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, we all know this better than anybody can.

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Speaker 2: Is that it's Johnny Holstaff. The second the first guy

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Speaker 2: Okay, five seven one four. Will Roberts pull Yamamoto early

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Speaker 1: He'll have Sasaki for two innings at some point if

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love this is from a Cowboys in Choir

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Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, dude.

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Speaker 2: All right, time for Dude of the Week, and Ken

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Speaker 2: and I have both selected a Toronto Blue Jay. Ken,

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Speaker 1: Series Game twelve, I don't know what more we can

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Speaker 1: say about him. This guy started this season in the

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Speaker 1: Florida State League in the need and jumped every level

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Speaker 1: to get to the big leagues at twenty two he

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Speaker 1: is unquestionably for me, the dude of the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pitching in front of about three hundred and sixty seven

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Speaker 2: people and then he's absolutely shoving in the world's congratulations

436
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Speaker 2: to Trey Savage and his entire family because it's been

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Speaker 2: fun to see the emotions and everything going on with

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Speaker 2: the entire clan. Mine is Will Klein. I mean, to me,

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Speaker 2: Will Klein Ken was kind of like the Brent Honeywell

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Speaker 2: of last year for the Dodgers or the Nathan Valdi

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. And again, you know, lower has been

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Speaker 2: pretty good in this in this series as well. But

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Speaker 2: to me, Will kleinb coming out of the bullpen and

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Speaker 2: pitching I want to say four shutout innings I believe

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Speaker 2: if I'm remembering that correctly in relief has been such

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Speaker 2: a fun thing to see for him. Perhaps nobody knew

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Speaker 2: much about the guys, unless you, of course, are following

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays all the time. But huge, huge, gutsy performance,

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Speaker 2: and he certainly deserves a lot of credit because relievers

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Speaker 2: need love. To Ken Rosenthal, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's one thing, I know you're misspoke. Just he

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Speaker 1: had a brain cramp he's with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I mean's sorry, Well yeah, my bad will flyin. That's

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Speaker 2: what I meant with Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I apologize and don't jump on a lot anyone. We

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Speaker 1: all make mistakes. I do it all.

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, Trey is savage with the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 2: will climb with the Daughter's iypologiss all right. Time Now

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Speaker 2: for the dork of the week. That is not me.

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Speaker 2: All right, my faux pa, of course, but that is

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Speaker 2: not I'm not going to pick myself this dork of

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Speaker 2: the week, although I should ken Who is yours?

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Speaker 1: My dork of the week? Is anyone anyone thinking it

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Speaker 1: would be a good idea to shut down the sport

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Speaker 1: of baseball after the Collective Argaining Agreement expires December one,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. This sport is doing really well. The

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Speaker 1: World Series is getting better ratings than I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people expected, considering that Canada does not count

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Speaker 1: in the ratings. It's been a very electric World Series,

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Speaker 1: really intriguing, so many big stars, so many good things happening.

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Speaker 1: This sport is thriving. Can it be improved? Absolutely, it

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Speaker 1: can be improved, and it can be improved as I've

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Speaker 1: said many times before, without a salary cap, there are

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Speaker 1: other things you can do to get a better collective

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Speaker 1: bargaining agreement to make it somewhat more of a financially

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Speaker 1: level playing field. So, anyone thinking of shutting down the sport,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are a few owners out there

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Speaker 1: who are thinking of shutting down the sport. Dork of

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Speaker 1: the week, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One way to improve the sport without a salary cap

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Speaker 2: is to read the room. My dork of the week

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Speaker 2: is Major League Baseball for deciding it was a good

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Speaker 2: idea to have the Jonas Brothers perform a concert in

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Speaker 2: the middle of a World Series game. If I'm the

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Speaker 2: starting pitchers in either one of those games, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 2: what the heck is happening. I am all for the

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Speaker 2: Stand Up for Cancer movement. That's a very incredible movement,

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Speaker 2: and it's been a part of Major League Baseball in

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Speaker 2: the World Series for a number of years, and that

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Speaker 2: part I love. But then to switch over to a

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Speaker 2: concert in a time and a game ken that is

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Speaker 2: not a natural break. It was almost as if Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball was trying to have a halftime show in

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Speaker 2: a World Series game. That's not the appropriate time, that's

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Speaker 2: not the appropriate field. Had nothing to do with Toronto,

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Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with Fox. This was Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball's decision of doing this, and it was just

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Speaker 2: not the right move in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, I don't know where that

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Speaker 1: idea came from, but there are times I feel where

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Speaker 1: MLB is like the dorky kid at school trying to

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Speaker 1: be cool and not saying that the sports shouldn't try

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Speaker 1: to be cooler. We've talked about this and promoting players

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Speaker 1: and all that, but this was a reach and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people didn't like it. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't like a lot of things. That's the way of

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Speaker 1: the world right now, but this to me was a stretch.

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Speaker 1: As you said, Alana, yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: Read the room, have a little bit of feel all right.

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Speaker 2: If you are watching on television, Thank you guys so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us. We will see you next time

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Speaker 2: we have a couple more minutes with our YouTube family.

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Speaker 2: Right after this, Ken, you and I were talking about

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Speaker 2: how awesome a city like Toronto is and it has

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Speaker 2: been one of my favorite places to go for a

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Speaker 2: number of years. What's the scene been like there, Because

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Speaker 2: this is a country I mean, I know Toronto's a city,

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Speaker 2: but the country of cam a city of Toronto. This

519
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Speaker 2: is a fan base that is hungry. They so desperately

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Speaker 2: would love to have a World championship in their corner.

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Speaker 2: What's it been like for you.

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Speaker 1: It's been really cool to see people so excited and

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Speaker 1: there are a ton of people wearing Blue Jays gear

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Speaker 1: out and about. Of course, you saw the watch parties

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Speaker 1: at Rogers Center for the games in Los Angeles. They

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Speaker 1: had thirty thousand people for Game five and apparently it

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Speaker 1: was an electric environment in there. Is talking with some

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Speaker 1: of the security guards in the ballpark yesterday and they

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Speaker 1: were saying it was incredible the scene. So yes, it

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Speaker 1: has been on it just as you said, a really

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Speaker 1: cool atmosphere, a really great thing to see a city

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Speaker 1: that has not had a World Series in thirty two

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Speaker 1: years come alive like this. They love their Blue Jays, hear,

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Speaker 1: just like fans in all cities love their teams. And

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Speaker 1: it has been a lot of fun to be here

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Speaker 1: during the Blue Jays run. We've been my team at

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Speaker 1: Fox on them for all three of the see all

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Speaker 1: three of them series, so it's been very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's been it's been great to see all

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Speaker 2: of the fans obviously enjoying it, but the broadcasters and

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Speaker 2: you know, Dan Shulman and Buck Martinez and Hazel May

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Speaker 2: and so many others. Of course, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: single anybody out, but just the enthusiasm, and it's been

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Speaker 2: it's been a ton of fun to see. What are

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Speaker 2: you looking forward to tonight? Ken, in terms of what

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Speaker 2: do you need to see? Game six obviously on the

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Speaker 2: brink for the Blue Jays and the Dodgers trying to

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Speaker 2: force the issue.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a very simple storyline. Can Yamamoto do

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Speaker 1: it again? And if he does it again, then we

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Speaker 1: have a really interesting scenario because then the question becomes

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Speaker 1: can the Dodgers get to Gossman? And they did somewhat

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Speaker 1: in the previous game. Of course, he pitched great and

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Speaker 1: then he gave up a little bit in the seventh inning,

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Speaker 1: So that to me is what this is about.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we look forward to it. We want

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Speaker 2: to thank you guys certainly for being with us here

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Speaker 2: on Fair Territory all new episodes. Of course, before I

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Speaker 2: let you go, though, do you expect Springer to start?

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Speaker 3: Ken?

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Speaker 2: You've had these conversations with John Schneider. Obviously he's always

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Speaker 2: been available off the bench, but is he going to

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Speaker 2: be in a starting lineup?

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Speaker 1: I will say this Initially, when Schneider said that to me,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember which game was, Game four, I believe

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Speaker 1: when I asked him in game when he was very

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Speaker 1: positive about Springer's outlook, I was skeptical, and I remained

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Speaker 1: somewhat skeptical. But they have continued to say that he

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Speaker 1: is available and that he could have started the last game,

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Speaker 1: So I sort of do expect him to start to

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Speaker 1: I based on their comments, I don't know that they're bluffing.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I asked someone with the Blue Jays at

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Speaker 1: one point, Hey, is this decoy stuff or what tell

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Speaker 1: me the truth? And they said, no, he is available,

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Speaker 1: so we shall see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting too because the last couple of games

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Speaker 2: they haven't needed them in that big situation, because there's

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Speaker 2: been enough of a cushion, certainly in Game five, that

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Speaker 2: he was not needed in that situation. All right, So anyway,

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Speaker 2: fair Territory is done. We will be back next week.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Today's Foul Territory Todd Frazer, Eric krat Scott

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Speaker 2: Broun has Kevin Pillar, Tim Kerchin and Patie Wou and

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Speaker 2: don't forget guys. Both Foul Territory and Dodgers Territory will

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Speaker 2: have live posting shows right after the game. Will be

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Speaker 2: next time