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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're sick of coming up

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Speaker 1: with funny starts to the show. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here,

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Speaker 1: I'm in London, and we're gonna go through the NFC

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Speaker 1: games like the AFC in like many weeks, it's in Valles.

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Speaker 2: Fewer games this.

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Speaker 1: Week on the NFC, but maybe the game of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of teams that won last week, The

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Speaker 3: Denver Broncos at the Philadelphia Eagles were unbeaten, but you

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Speaker 3: wouldn't know about listening to the teams covered. They are

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Speaker 3: favored about three and a half. The over under Steve

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Speaker 3: was forty three and a half points. Jim Nantz, Tony Rolo,

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Speaker 3: Tracy Wolfson. It is the CBS one and they get

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Speaker 3: to see a team that can beat anybody, a team

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Speaker 3: that's really good.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about both of them there, but one of them.

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Speaker 3: It's like the sky is falling and they win every game.

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Speaker 5: O sky's falling a Philly Oh that's never happened. Wonderful fans,

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Speaker 5: wonderful media media base. But this guy's not always fun.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 5: I like the way Philadelphia is playing playing light champions

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Speaker 4: You start seeing them starting to ascend.

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Speaker 5: And watching bon Nicks, and you know, I'm a big

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Speaker 5: BONICKX guy. The confidence he is starting to play with

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Speaker 5: he's got just ain't going with Courtland Sutton. I like

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Speaker 5: the way they run the ball, and I think bon

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Speaker 5: Nicks is a part of it. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 5: find some cracks in this Eagles defense. This is this

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Speaker 5: is a really good game. There's three and a half number.

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Speaker 5: I like the number of Phillies getting three and a half,

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Speaker 5: but I think Denver's I think Denver's got some hot sauce.

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Speaker 4: For him here.

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Speaker 6: I like the way that they have only just recently

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Speaker 4: But I mean this is this is Sean Payton.

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Speaker 7: Yes, this is exactly it.

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Speaker 6: It's basically like you might as well just giving him

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Speaker 7: And started out kind of rough that first quarter.

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Speaker 6: Steve and I also think that his connection with Courtland

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Speaker 7: We saw it last year obviously, but he hit.

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Speaker 6: problem for bo Nix and Courtland Sutton is that they

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Speaker 6: are going to be facing quin Yon Mitchell, who was

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Speaker 6: Tampa Bay. Hit a couple of different assignments, but shadowed

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Speaker 6: Emica Abuka for twenty two of Aguka's routes. According to

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Speaker 6: Playing lights out incredible defense. Cooper dejen is a great

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Speaker 6: understand each other's spacing, They understand where each other is

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Speaker 6: And I think that becomes kind of a nightmare for

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Speaker 7: But Courtland sentence, his guy, guess what Sean Payton's gonna do.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw the ball out of the backfield and

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Speaker 5: he's gonna motion the hell out of the Eagles his

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Speaker 5: personal packages. Hopefully he uses the Koli package. This is

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Speaker 5: something he hasn't broken up, and the Coolie package. Dedication

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Speaker 5: Archie Cooley, Missipi Valley State. They rans for Jerry Rice.

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Speaker 5: It's not just a three by one. Three receivers by

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Speaker 5: His tribute is homage to Archie Cooley, the he Misissippi

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Speaker 4: He's going to break that out.

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Speaker 5: There's a quick route, there's a deep route, there's another

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Speaker 3: The way the circumstance worked out last week for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But the Broncos come in and while

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Speaker 3: Sudden gets the vast majority of the targets and the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: They can spread the ball around a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: And they haven't had a game where they all put

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Speaker 3: And then you get to points where Evan Ingram is,

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Speaker 3: there's still like some inconsistency. They haven't quite figured out

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Speaker 3: these go balls that we discussed all off season, and

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Speaker 3: that's the scary thing for me for this Eagles matchup.

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Speaker 3: He got it literally just picked the Eagles seconds ago

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Speaker 3: when I sent my email where it's just the Broncos

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Speaker 4: And how good can this team be?

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Speaker 3: I guess an Eagles team, Like we talked about Greg,

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Speaker 3: you know, the sky is falling, but here in this situation,

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Speaker 3: the Broncos may be able to put a little pressure

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Speaker 1: One right well, they like, can the Eagles create pressure

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Speaker 1: last week At this point, I think you can downgrade

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Speaker 1: essentially any performance against this Bengals defense. And he was

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Speaker 1: Jayly Sun has struggled for them, likesh U has given

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Speaker 1: a great matchup of coaches between Vic Fanjo and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: It's a Vic Fangio revenge game.

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Speaker 1: These two have come up against each others plenty of

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Speaker 2: So like Vic's.

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Speaker 1: Fingerprints are on this Broncos team, even though it seems

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Speaker 1: so long ago in football years. I love that matchup

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Speaker 6: No and you can tell how out of his comfort

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Speaker 6: In dire straits for Vic for to get him to

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Speaker 6: Like I it's interesting to me watching kind of like

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Speaker 6: So this is gonna be a little bit different version

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Speaker 7: That's a cool point.

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Speaker 6: About uh, Pat certain too, and just sort of a

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Speaker 6: And this is gonna be fun because it's I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is a better game for the Eagles to run

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Speaker 6: But I selfishly would really like to see DeVante Smith

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their offensive line has struggled this year. They are

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Speaker 2: Will test them and maybe make Aj Yeah even more angry.

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Speaker 3: They've got thirty two quick quarterback pressures this year, do

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Speaker 3: So at the very least the Eagles have seen pressure.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much otherwise Nick Benito

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you, Nick, thanks for consuming all Greg Rosenthal content,

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Speaker 3: which which is why we know Nick Benito knows ball

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Speaker 2: I needed more of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Nick Benito, he went from like the second

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Speaker 5: Again, Jack Brewning, it's over, Jake, It's over with the

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Speaker 1: Yes, this will be my pick. The Seahawks to win

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember the greatest dynasty

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Speaker 1: of the twenty ten's was not the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: It was the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Remember winning the year end DVOA Championship. I believe four

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Speaker 1: number one, and now here they are back at number one.

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Speaker 1: Like if you if you look at these two teams

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Speaker 1: Bucks have been average and done a really good job

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Speaker 1: being resourceful despite injuries and have been more of a

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's disrespectful for the Bucks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, let's disrespect for the Bucks, because the Bucks

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Speaker 5: do have something that Seattle's looking for and that's going

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Speaker 4: Right the Bucks, Now have you have that?

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Speaker 5: I hate the worst swagger, but they've got that attitude

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Speaker 5: like you have to beat us, and I think that

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Speaker 4: But I do like Seattles game.

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Speaker 5: I like the way Seattle is running the football, like

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Speaker 5: their offensive line is coming together. This Clint Kubiak stuff

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Speaker 4: Be a really good game.

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Speaker 5: I like the Seahawks, but again, I think Tampa's got there.

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Speaker 5: One of these teams who on three or four teams

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Speaker 6: The Seahawks run game, to me, is an interesting case

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Speaker 6: study in patients this year, for the entire coaching staff

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Speaker 6: I'm not talking even about the head coaches, but all

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Speaker 7: However, we could go and watch it, and I know

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Speaker 6: When you go and watch it, you see the theory

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Speaker 6: And obviously it's a different scheme. They run a lot

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Speaker 6: I can see it. I can see that the theory

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Speaker 5: But they hit when sometimes they have to hit, they

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Speaker 5: hit right, and that's when you say you could see it,

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a tough defense.

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Speaker 5: But I like, I like some of the things that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's familiarity there because Clint Kubiak. I think

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Speaker 3: Clint Kobiak in twenty twenty five. This is a fundamentally

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Speaker 3: on the other side, where there's a lot to believe in.

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Speaker 4: The Bucks are just so hurt. Yeah at this.

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Speaker 3: Point, ye to see Bucky Irving in a boot like

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Speaker 4: Being this hurt.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of overcoming something, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold trauma bonding.

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Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield. One of my favorite bits of sound. Their buddies.

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Speaker 6: They've remained buddies. They both overcame their time in Carolina.

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Speaker 6: Apparently if you Baker Mayfield talk about it. And Baker

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Speaker 6: Mayfield had maybe my favorite dry quote of the entire week.

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Speaker 3: You guys, reminisce about the good old days in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Reminisce about what days?

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Speaker 8: Carolyn?

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Speaker 4: Oh, nope, Now we don't.

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Speaker 6: Trauma bond the best kind of friendship, it's the deepest bond.

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Speaker 4: That's brevity. That's brevity making an impact right there. Baker.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, uh that Baker is the one like making

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Speaker 1: Seattle's offense right now. But the Seahawks I think have

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Speaker 3: But we can celebrate another opportunity to discuss a throw

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Speaker 3: of the Year candidate Baker Mayfield to a Mecca Buka

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Speaker 3: uh the seeing eyeball, if we want to take a

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Speaker 3: look back at that to just to submit for something

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Speaker 4: Field shotguns with the twenty four yard line play.

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Speaker 8: Actually, Bake rolling two is right by design, still rolling

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Speaker 6: But.

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Speaker 4: Five yard line chuck stop Tampa Bay. No cuarts on

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Speaker 6: I was waiting for that close up of it because

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Speaker 6: I I the concentration to catch that. The placement of

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Speaker 6: But yeah, Greg, he's taking some risks. He is the

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Speaker 5: In a couple of weeks, I got some for Patrick

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Speaker 4: Well, it was a genius.

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Speaker 3: He was a genius and Grizzard is lucky that Chip

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Speaker 4: There you go, thank him. I'm so glad he invented

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Speaker 4: football in the mid two thousands. Great opportunity.

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Speaker 7: Make sure you catch the other show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do love to be some Sam Donald the

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Speaker 2: That's a drop. Eric. I think I think he's playing now.

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Speaker 1: They're protecteing him a little bit in terms of like

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Speaker 1: Gino got to be fair, but like it's just average.

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Speaker 1: Darnold's kind of making plays on his own.

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Speaker 4: The Gino comforting bike Ray is so special.

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Speaker 2: I now, Well, it's true.

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Speaker 1: All you ever wanted was an average offensive line. They're average.

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Speaker 1: They're just like fine, that's like, okay, that's good.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to the next game.

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Speaker 3: The New York Giants, led by Jackson Dart, will have

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Speaker 4: But they've been in every single game and they're a

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Speaker 7: I think they could. I really think they could. And

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Speaker 6: This is the game featuring quarterbacks with maybe an irrational

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Speaker 6: I really would like I don't know, Spencer Rattler if

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Speaker 6: and I think people who have not watched the Saints

438
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Speaker 6: this year will be surprised by how hard this Saints

439
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Speaker 6: team is playing, despite the fact that their their win

440
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Speaker 6: loss record does not show it.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, all I know is Charlie Browns, So I like,

442
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: how to kick that football?

443
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Speaker 6: Too? Real?

444
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 4: Hard to kick that football.

445
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Speaker 1: Look, that's why they gotta get They gotta get Spence

446
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: to win this week. It is sad for me that

447
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: in the eleven games, I think it is that he

448
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: started that they have not won yet and he's running

449
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Speaker 1: out of time. This is a game for both of

450
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Speaker 1: these franchises that like the fan bases are like, oh,

451
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 1: finally we get to win, Like Saints fans are like, oh,

452
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Speaker 1: this is finally the week we get to win because

453
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Speaker 1: we're not playing some great team that's a heavy favorite.

454
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Speaker 1: And of course the Giants coming off that week against

455
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Speaker 1: the Chargers are thinking the same way. And I do

456
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Speaker 1: fear for the rat Maan that, like, if they don't

457
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Speaker 1: win this, it might be the end of the road,

458
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Speaker 1: even though he's played really well, and it would just

459
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Speaker 1: I would just be my heart would break a little

460
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Speaker 1: bit for him that he would have to sit back

461
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Speaker 1: down without getting to feel what.

462
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Speaker 2: It's like to win a freaking football game. Shouldn't be

463
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Speaker 2: there all.

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Speaker 5: This nation's coming across that state line to support Jackson

465
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Speaker 5: dard Is. They put another l on another Louisiana team

466
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Speaker 5: back to back weeks, not just.

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Speaker 1: Oh not back to back, back to back to back,

468
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: the true barrass my two lanes, Green, Wayne shot the

469
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Speaker 1: bottom the also receiving votes.

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Speaker 4: I just think the Giants defensive front, oh it's sex.

471
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Speaker 5: I just think this is one. Spencer Rattler, Alan Kamara

472
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Speaker 5: do your thing. But I think the Giants defense is

473
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 5: going to be too good in this one. You know,

474
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 5: we could talk about these quarterbacks and this and that.

475
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Speaker 5: This is one to me is playing as simple. The

476
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Speaker 5: Giants defense is going to make play.

477
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Speaker 1: Well and the Saints defense won't be good because like

478
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Speaker 1: the Brandon Staley sons I was trying to throw out

479
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: there when we went to camp down there, it's not

480
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Speaker 1: happening like that.

481
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they've underperformed there.

482
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Speaker 1: You know, their defense provides very little resistance on average.

483
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Speaker 1: They've had a tough schedule, but they just don't have

484
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Speaker 1: a pass rush and he doesn't seem to have answers well.

485
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Speaker 5: And look, you've got dudes wh've been there for a

486
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 5: long time, and Brandy comes in and he overloads and

487
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 5: those dudes are like, yo, man, we had great defenses

488
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 5: here for years before you came in here with a

489
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Speaker 5: whole lot of the stuff.

490
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Speaker 4: You're trying to let us do what we do. And

491
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Speaker 4: that's why it hasn't translated. But the Giants d they

492
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: are the front gets after the front absolutely does.

493
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Speaker 3: The front gets after it, and we can celebrate the

494
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: best performance the front of the Giants twenty twenty five season,

495
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: Martin Hampton average ten point seven yards of carry.

496
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Speaker 4: That's true. Like whenever he got the ball in space,

497
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Speaker 4: he was able to make plays.

498
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Speaker 3: Like when Herbert was able to get the ball in

499
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Speaker 3: the air to Quentin Johnston, he caught a ball between

500
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Speaker 3: two defenders and scored a touchdown. This Giants team continues

501
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: to allow players to hit home runs against them, and

502
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 3: that's that's the Saints bread and butter. Like you get

503
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: Rashid shah head on a couple where it's like, how

504
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: confident are we really considering what we've seen the Saints

505
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Speaker 3: team be up against this far in the season, Like

506
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Speaker 3: that Jackson Dart is going to go in there to

507
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Speaker 3: New Orleans and be dancing in the end zone, like

508
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: running these RPOs.

509
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Speaker 4: And having all the success they had against the Chargers.

510
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: I think they just got the Chargers in a bad spot.

511
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Speaker 6: And I have to tell you this guy. You know

512
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 6: there are the Saints if you go and you watch

513
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 6: them from snap to snap too, there are players everywhere

514
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 6: on that team that are emerging and they're they're making

515
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 6: plays like Kendrey Miller twelve forced miss tackles over the

516
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 6: first few games. I'm willing to bet most of them

517
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 6: came last week against the Bill's defense. Nobody could bring

518
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 6: him down, nobody could touch him, and getting him used

519
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 6: in a lot of different ways, putting him in space,

520
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 6: getting him on these yards after catch, like quick outlet throws,

521
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 6: having him run the ball like this, he might have something.

522
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 6: And so I think that that becomes a layer here,

523
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 6: especially if you're trying to protect Spencer Ratler from Abdul Carter,

524
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 6: who's playing everywhere outside linebacker. He's playing a little inside linebacker.

525
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 6: He's blitzing as a as a like creeping defender. Eight pressures,

526
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 6: five hits, and that was just last week. I mean,

527
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Speaker 6: it's it's insane to be doing that much, to have

528
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 6: that many roles as a rookie. Now I know everyone's

529
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 6: getting not us because we know ball, but everyone it's

530
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Speaker 6: gonna sit there and be.

531
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Speaker 7: Like, oh, he doesn't have a lot of sacks.

532
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Speaker 6: So look at the other look at you, but look

533
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 6: at the pressures, Like look at the he in nineteen

534
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 6: pressures already.

535
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: Tibodeau and these guys are actually showing up on the

536
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Speaker 5: box score. And that's because they have somebody else distracting,

537
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 5: you know, the attention.

538
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dexter Lawrence, I thought played his best game,

539
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: even taking away the interception, Like he's starting to create pressure.

540
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: It's a good defense. It's I don't think there's gonna

541
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: be a lot of points. I think if you're a

542
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart fan, you just got to be worried, like

543
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: this pace is a little unsustainable. He took five sacks.

544
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Speaker 1: I think all five were on him, just like holding

545
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: the ball too long. It carried the ball twelve He

546
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: carried the ball twelve times if you you know, include

547
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: the penalty plays and you know he's got the play

548
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: where he's like, you know, pushing down the defender like

549
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Speaker 1: in the face.

550
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Speaker 2: But it gets you fired up. But he took some

551
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: big hits in that game.

552
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Speaker 1: Like if he gets hit seventeen times a game, he

553
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Speaker 1: will not be long for the starting lineup. We are

554
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Speaker 1: not long for our week. Five preview. We've only got

555
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Speaker 1: a few more games and we're going to hit them

556
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Speaker 1: after this final break.

557
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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

558
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Speaker 1: And Yes, I arrived in London Monday evening and had

559
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: an experience going through the Dublin Airport I never had before.

560
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of the entire Minnesota Vikings

561
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: organization going through security, just Jalen Naylor right in front

562
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Speaker 1: of me having to get his bags checked like a

563
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Speaker 1: normal person.

564
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: I guess you can't like.

565
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: Escape security overseas like and just fly private and just

566
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Speaker 1: skip all that because they're their entire group where we're

567
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: doing the same thing as me, buying overpriced uh you

568
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: know stuff leprechauns in the gift store, Like right as

569
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Speaker 1: we got through.

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Speaker 4: Wow, man, you're you're you're like nailing some stereotypes. Stare Gray.

571
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just telling you exactly what was happening.

572
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: I literally was in the gift store buying the stuffed

573
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: leprechaun and the Minnesota Vikings players were doing the same thing.

574
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: My son wanted one. Sorry, they're gonna sell it, I'm

575
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Speaker 2: gonna buy it.

576
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Speaker 4: And that's what we we consume, and we go through

577
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: customs and we go with the Vike.

578
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of us are accustomed to picking teams

579
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: that lose every single week, as I did for the

580
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers last week.

581
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: But this week might be different.

582
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: They are at home taking on the Miami Dolphins, who

583
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: are one and a half point favorite. I love the single,

584
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: I love the one there at all times. Eric Collins,

585
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: Mark Schlaire, Jen Hale on the call. The Dolphins, of course,

586
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 3: lose Tyreek Hill for the remainder of the season. There's

587
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: questions about twenty twenty six Greg, which Panthers team makes

588
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: an appearance here in this game on Sunday.

589
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Speaker 1: I think the twenty twenty five Carolina Panthers, which are

590
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: they're bad? There was that like one team that showed

591
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: up for the Falcons game, and even in that game,

592
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: they didn't crack three hundred yards. They had the same

593
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: yard it was. It was a little bit of a

594
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: fluky game and they won it and they deserve it.

595
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: One of these teams, though, Steve, will be two and three.

596
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: And even if I wanted to go ahead and power

597
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: rank the teams and put them each in the bottom five,

598
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: the reality is one of these teams after this week

599
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: will be two and three.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's an it's an exciting opportunity.

601
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Speaker 1: If you're the fans of one of these teams or

602
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of the coach, like, you're gonna feel pretty decent.

603
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: There's some decent teams out there that'll be two and three.

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00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: Wait to sell it, Gray, well done. I mean, I

605
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: just mean it.

606
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean I got opportunity this whole AFC East, NFC

607
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: South though, yeah, combination this year, some stinky teams are

608
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: going to be winning some games.

609
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Speaker 5: I'm real interested because Miami's defense was still poorest they

610
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 5: would get We saw the Jets just go up and

611
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 5: down the field. I mean, Carolina has got offensively the

612
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: potential to move the ball. I don't know if they

613
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 5: can get into the end zone. But getting Darren Waller

614
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 5: back really intrigues me for the Dolphins. No Tyreek Hill.

615
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: Jalen Waddles got the speed close to Tyreek Kill, but

616
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: he's not a deep threat the way that they're used.

617
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: So the Dolphins don't have the guy who can necessarily

618
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: take the top off the defense, but they can paper

619
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 5: cut you all over the place. And I think Darren

620
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: Waller from what he showed in a few plays he

621
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: played the other day could end up being an option

622
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 5: for what Tua does.

623
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Speaker 6: Well.

624
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Speaker 5: I like Miami to outscore Carolina. There's no defense is

625
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: in this game, I mean still Carolina.

626
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Carolina is running the ball okay, and they look,

627
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 6: you know, relatively physical while they're doing it. And while

628
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 6: Miami's defense can rush the passer, I still see no

629
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 6: signs to be able to stop the run. And so

630
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 6: that's where I think Carolina has to try to capitalize

631
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 6: and attack this week. On the other side of it,

632
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm really excited to see if Miami keeps

633
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: looking like Miami offensively, whatever that sad thing was that

634
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 6: was out there earlier this season, Like Tua looked more

635
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 6: confident than I've seen him maybe in years throw And

636
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 6: I loved the game plan. Darren Waller's like renaissance, I

637
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 6: guess if it sustains two touchdowns, And then was on

638
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 6: the hands team for the on side kick recovery when

639
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 6: the Jets were trying to mount a comeback.

640
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Speaker 7: But I I really liked the scheme.

641
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 6: I liked that they ran the ball and they kept

642
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 6: when they kept running the ball, and he had over

643
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: one hundred scrimmage yards, got to ninety nine rushing yards

644
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 6: and wasn't even close to that number in rushing yards

645
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 6: any other point in this season.

646
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 7: And Tua was looking like all of the little.

647
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 6: Things he does that makes him a really good quarterback,

648
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 6: where he can execute, he move the launch point, he

649
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: can do some of those ball fakes, including one sick

650
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 6: one behind the back, and that was so cool, where

651
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 6: he can change wherever the defense's eyes are going to be,

652
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: just with these little movements and these little cadences. And

653
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Speaker 6: then what Mike McDaniel got back to doing, which is

654
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 6: what he was doing when he first started coaching this

655
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 6: team and scheming guys up on this team, was getting

656
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 6: guys free releases off the line of scrimmage, making defenders

657
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Speaker 6: play with dirty eyes, as coaches like to say, where

658
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 6: you're flowing one way and then everything else is going

659
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 6: the other way, or the receiver is already blown by

660
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 6: you because you're playing a little too tight, and he

661
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 6: is coming off the line of scrimmage and changing space

662
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 6: and gaps on you via these motions. And I think

663
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 6: I would actually trust a little bit more the Panthers

664
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 6: run game, which I know has been bad, the Panthers

665
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 6: run defense, which I know has been bad against a

666
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 6: Miami run attack that has been start stopped this entire

667
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 6: year and only just barely is starting again. I would

668
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 6: trust their secondary less, even without Tyreek Hill. I would

669
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 6: trust their secondary way less to be able to handle

670
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 6: and adjust to all of the things that Mike McDaniel's

671
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: going to try to do and two is going to

672
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 6: try to do to.

673
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 7: Full their eyes.

674
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, after rushing for seventy eight and sixty one yards

675
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: in the first two games of the season, and granted

676
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: it's up against the Bills and the Jets, whose run

677
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: defenses have allowed other teams to go they went for

678
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: one thirty one twenty three. I think that was the

679
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: difference in the Dolphins offense, especially on Monday Night, where

680
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: the misdirections, the fakes being able to have to have

681
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: Tom to throw it behind the back pass and celebrate

682
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: cool like the vobs are up because they're moving the

683
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: ball there being some sss.

684
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 6: Well.

685
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: I feel like that's where the confidence comes from.

686
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: And what better opportunity to get confidence in the run

687
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: game than playing against the Carolina Panthers if they can

688
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: actually commit to it. If you don't exactly get distracted

689
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: by the opportunity to take shots down the field and

690
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: just have sustained commitment to the run game, where everybody

691
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: that's played against the Panthers that's done that has been

692
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: able to win going away.

693
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: When it doesn't happen, oh man, they're eating when they

694
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: throw the ball to that they might have the worst

695
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: like middle of the field.

696
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 7: Ye ever, And that's and that's what I'm saying.

697
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: It's bad all around.

698
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.

699
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 6: Greg is like, I trust no phase of this defense,

700
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 6: but I trust I actually against this particular type of

701
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 6: passing attack. I actually trust the Panthers passing defense less

702
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: than I trust their running defense. And I already don't

703
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: trust their running defense.

704
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: How the hell did they shut the Falcons out? It's

705
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: just their.

706
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Linebacker in Carolina are so bad. The Dolphins offense, I

707
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: think everyone just remembers that Week one. They've been fine

708
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: this year, and they haven't been good, but they've been fine.

709
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Like they they went up and down on the Patriots,

710
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: they did okay against the Bill, like they've been okay.

711
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: They've had a very easy schedule.

712
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: They're kind of getting away with it on the offensive

713
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: line because of the matchups, Like they're starting Cole strange. Still,

714
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the former Patriots pick Larry Boram is their right tackle.

715
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Their their rookie second round pick who they took high

716
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: has really been struggling. So I'm not really feeling either

717
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: of these teams long term, but I'm feeling the Dolphins

718
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: on Sunday.

719
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 7: I hardly know him.

720
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Speaker 4: M Okay, that's a good one.

721
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Speaker 6: I know.

722
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: I do not apologize for that. That was spectacular. We'll

723
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Speaker 4: get to.

724
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Speaker 3: Coach Callahan's Tennessee Titans also a one and a half

725
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: point favorite. No, excuse me, that's it. That's just a

726
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: holdover because I was shocked seven and a half point favorites.

727
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: I see, yeah, it's the other one point five carried

728
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: from fins. But either way, seven and a half point

729
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: favorites of the Arizona Cardinals at home against the Tennessee

730
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: titanspirator is that of Marcholetta and.

731
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: The dB Kinkwalla on the call and Coach Callahan.

732
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: Before we get to the discussion of it, had an

733
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: opportunity to answer some questions because the seat may be

734
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: getting hot.

735
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 4: I want everybody to get a chance to listen.

736
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: Do you think this is a resilient and relentless football team?

737
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 8: I know what you're doing. Air Paul, I know what

738
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 8: you're doing, and I'm not going to answer that to

739
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 8: you right now. Well, I mean, those are the things

740
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 8: that you've tried to twenty.

741
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Some games in it.

742
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 5: I stop.

743
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 8: I'm just compose myself here before I say something I regret.

744
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 8: But yes, I think this team is resilient. I think

745
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 8: it is relentless. We haven't played good enough football, and

746
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 8: I think there's two Those are two very distinct different

747
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 8: things we have to execute at a better level with

748
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 8: the coach better.

749
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: And that's really all I can say. Greg. It is October. First,

750
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: your thoughts, oh, I.

751
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Speaker 2: Have Okay, I have a couple of thoughts.

752
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: First of all, I should have mentioned, like Dave Canalis

753
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: was also asked this week whether they would be changing

754
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: their staff, whether they would be looking at organizational changes.

755
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: It is not a good sign when that's happening.

756
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: But I especially wanted to point that clip out because

757
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: it's something that happens in the tenure of every Titans coach,

758
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: and that's the moment where you let everyone know how

759
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: much you hate Paul Kuhart.

760
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: There it is, there, it is Mike Raymond.

761
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: Many of those moments Mike malarkey Man, he had those moments.

762
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: Ken Wizenheut, you might not even remember, was the Titans

763
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: coach and had a record I think might have been

764
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: worse than Brian Callahan, who's three and eighteen and he

765
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: did not last long. I feel bad because I was

766
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: like Ken Wizner. Mike Munchak definitely had a couple of

767
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: those moments. Jeff Fisher had those moments. So it is

768
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: a rite of passage, and you know, I hope that

769
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan can can get past it because it's it's

770
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: always Paul Kaharski on the other line, and they always

771
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: say Paul, they always call him by his first name.

772
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: That's my tick.

773
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: Look, it's I'm not mean. I'm not mean. I'll put

774
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: it to you this way.

775
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm not It's all good, all around.

776
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 7: Thousands of time I wrote.

777
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 5: I wrote Paul Kaharski down here and showed it to

778
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 5: Jeorde because it is.

779
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: It is a rite of passage, you know, because Paul

780
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 4: is a tough reporter.

781
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 5: He's seen a lot of bad football, so he's got

782
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: every right, uh to to go and ask these types

783
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 5: of questions. Report the way he reports. Look, I don't

784
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 5: know what the Titans. Necessarily, the goal clearly is to win.

785
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 5: They've got a quarterback and cam Ward who they think

786
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: can do it. But what else have they put together?

787
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: Like I just kind of want to know what they're

788
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 5: trying to roster wise, everything, what they're trying to do,

789
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: because it's it's just not great. Now, is this a

790
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: game that they can possibly go when you don't, Yeah,

791
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 5: they could. I mean, I think Arizona's a better football team,

792
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 5: but they still haven't figured out, like we talked about

793
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay, that when they show up on the field

794
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 5: that they should They're a hot.

795
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 4: And cold team.

796
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 5: So maybe Tennessee pulls something off and they get Paul

797
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: caw Harsky off the coach's back for a bit.

798
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: I just didn't know.

799
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 5: I just don't know roster wise, I just don't know

800
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: what it is. What's like you talk about looking for

801
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: an identity. I think they're like a year away from

802
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 5: being a year away from looking for an identity.

803
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: I think it'll actually be kind of hard for Arizona

804
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 6: to move the ball on this Titans defense, which isn't

805
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 6: like you know, I wouldn't put them. I put them

806
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 6: kind of in the middle, lower third of the NFL,

807
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 6: but they have put together some quality snaps and then

808
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 6: Arizona can't really run the ball anymore because they're already

809
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 6: missing James Connor, and then Trey Benson is out too,

810
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 6: and he might come back later on in the season,

811
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: but that's that's their heart and soul, both guys. I

812
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 6: mean James Connor certainly, and then Trey Benson is is

813
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 6: a pretty quality backup to him as well. And there

814
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 6: are still errors and issues between Kyler Murray and Marvin

815
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 6: Harrison Junior. I know you had the redemption touchdown in

816
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 6: a really couple of really nice plays, but there's also

817
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 6: been a lot of really bad plays between the two.

818
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 6: And this Cardinals offense feels like a team that thinks

819
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: it's supposed to be this one thing because everybody on

820
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 6: the outside is telling them they have to be the

821
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 6: wide receiver one and then everybody else's team.

822
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 7: But really what it is is get the ball to Tray.

823
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 6: McBride and then burn people down the field with whoever

824
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 6: else from time to time so that the defense respects

825
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: the middle of the field. That's what they are and

826
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 6: they should just go to do that. So I think

827
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 6: that that's where Arizona is having issues. My major takeaway

828
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Speaker 6: though from all of this and listening to some of

829
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 6: the quotes out of the press conferences from Tennessee over

830
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 6: the last several days, is what I really wish someone

831
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 6: would have done is ask Brian Callahan do you agree

832
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 6: that we ask?

833
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: I think he would agree with me.

834
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: I mean that would be a more ass that would

835
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: be a more constructive question, because like to make to

836
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: do the callback thing, like, yeah, I do understand what

837
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Brian Callan is saying.

838
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 4: There, I see what you're trying to do.

839
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: But it's like, what we learning from this other than

840
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: we're having this itchy interaction right now between you and me?

841
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: What's what's the value when you know a lot of

842
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: people work very hard to get in that room and

843
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: you've been there for a while. But that doesn't justify

844
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: wasting everybody's time. Although we did spend we did spend

845
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: time on it today on our show, so perhaps that's

846
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: that's a lesson for me. But cam war has been

847
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: pressured on his dropbacks, that's nuts. But now he's going

848
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: up against the team with the tenth lowest sack rate

849
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: in the league in the Arizona Cardinals, and the way

850
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: that the second half started on Thursday with Sweat coming

851
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: off the edge and getting pressure on Sam Darnold, and

852
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, that's it. But they haven't been able

853
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: to consistently do that while Cam has been consistently under

854
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: siege in his first season. Was first few games in

855
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 3: his first season, and like we get the you know,

856
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: the honesty from him at the podium and hopefully things

857
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: get better.

858
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: There's a reason why teams have the first overall pick.

859
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: Choose you because they're terrible.

860
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: I just want them to, Like Steve, I feel like

861
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: they could they could get sparks for for like one game.

862
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: Could they just win one game?

863
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: Like this is one of those games, because if the

864
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals win this game, they might not play that well

865
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: and they would be like a very underwhelming three and two.

866
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I think this could be one game that they could

867
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: do it because you mentioned like missing the running backs,

868
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are thirty first and success rate with

869
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: those running backs. I think for all the Harrison stuff,

870
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: like everything that's wrong with this team starts there, Like

871
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: they just don't make sense if they're that bad of

872
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: a running titan.

873
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: Really throwing it short. Yeah, they missed Clayton Adams.

874
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: I just would like to see these guys the Titans

875
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: get get one win, get everyone off the Schneid, get

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Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler a win, Get you guys home from the

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Speaker 1: studio in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: That was it for our week five preview. We've already

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Speaker 2: made it two Week five.

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Speaker 1: We will be back in this feed and not too

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Speaker 1: long with the Thursday night recaps. Guys night on Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, it's Patrick claybo Oh, that's never happened.

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Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, it's a good quint. Just someone I

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Speaker 2: just I just melt like dude, dudes with muscles. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't usually happens. The Cardinals, that doesn't happen either. It's

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Speaker 2: Rams and Niners. We'll see you then