1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are jumping into 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: a book today called d Trans and the reason that 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: we are jumping into this book is we've talked a 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: lot about what goes on with our young people and 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: how to protect them. But I think there's nothing more 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: disturbing happening today than the idea of these kids undergoing 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: unnecessary surgeries. You all know that I've talked extensively about 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: my cancer journey on the podcast and what my surgeries 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: were like, and the thought of these young women being 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: manipulated into having their breasts cut off has always horrified me. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: But as I got into this book, I was like, Wow, 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: it's so much worse than we even know, and I 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: think there's so few people talking about this, and so 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: we have the author with us here today. I am 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: excited to have Mary Margaret Olhan here with us. She 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: is a senior reporter covering culture and politics for The 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Daily Signal and just released her new book, It is 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: d Trans True Stories of Escaping the gen under identity cult. 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: The book and the testimonies are already being described as 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: indispensable evidence of the life shattering power of gender ideology. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Mary Margaret, thank you. So much for joining us today. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I want to say first and foremost, as I 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: was reading through this book, the thing that struck me 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: the hardest, And I think there are so many things 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: to strike you hard, but the thing that struck me 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: the hardest was the amount of people getting what they 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: call gender affirming care. Which I take issue with that 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: statement at all because I think care is very misleading. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: But going to Planned Parenthood are a nemesis in another area, 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: and Planned Parenthood is what like the second largest gender 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: clinic now essentially giving out these hormones. That was shocking 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: to me. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Planned Parenthood is very cryptic about how many hormones 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: that they're giving out and what percentage of their so 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: called services that makes up, and I think that they 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: don't really want people to know how many hormones they're 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: giving out or how many young people they're sending towards 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: CBS is with the prescription to get testosterone, because it 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: doesn't have very good optics. They prefer to say that 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: they provide gender affirming care. And I also take issue 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: with this phrase just like you, because I think we 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 3: both know that it's a euphemism designed by leftist activists 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: to hide the real meaning of what they're talking about. 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: Gender firming care is just a nice way of talking 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: about transgender surgeries, hormones, and puberty blockers, even for kids. 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: And they use this word care because it sounds good. 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: It sounds loving and kind and affirming. And I always 49 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: like to point out that this is very similar phrasing 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: to reproductive healthcare. So these activists are using a lot 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: of the same language because they see that. 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: It pulls well, tests well. 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: It's easier, for example, the Biden administration to talk about 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: reproductive healthcare or gender affirming care than to even say 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: the word abortion, or to say the words transgender surgeries 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: or hormones. They never say those things because they just 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: don't fit the narrative. And they know that if you 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: are plainly speaking about these things, most Americans don't support 59 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: this type of procedure for kids. They don't support men 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: and women's spaces, they don't support late term abortions, and 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: so they weaponize language and they use euphemisms to talk 62 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: about it. 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: We've seen we've seen this stuff happening across the country. 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Before we go any further, I want to remind my 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: friends out there about my partnership with the International Fellowship 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: of Christians and Jews because we've seen the same type 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: of language with what's going on in college campuses right now. 68 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: This attack on Jews, the anti Semitism and anti Semitism 69 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: is on the rise. The sad thing is it's not 70 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: happening just in Israel. It's happening here in the US, 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: just like what we're talking about here with this attack 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: on kids. And that's why I've partnered with the International 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And today I'm coming to 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: my audience to ask you to stand with us, with 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the IFCJ and to raise your voice just as Oscar 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Schindler and Corey ten Boom did. This pledge is asking 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Christians to stand with their Jewish brothers and sisters and 78 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: to never be silent to show Jewish people that they 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: are not alone. They have God and Christians on their side. 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: And in this month of June, we're asking Christians to 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: sign this pledge, which will be delivered to the President 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: of Israel, to show that Christians in America are not 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: only standing in solidarity, but they're speaking up to So 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: let's take a stand today with the International Fellowship of 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: Christians and Jews to let Jewish people know they're not alone. 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: If you want to sign the pledge, go to support 87 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: IFCJ dot org support CJ dot org to take a 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: stand today and Mary Margaret, I bring that up because 89 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: I feel like these are two worlds that are colliding 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: at the same time, and there's not really a place 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: for us right now to do the same for D transitioners. 92 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: But you are standing for D transitioners in a way 93 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: I think nobody really has. You talk about the social 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: pressures and the ability for these these different languages, these 95 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: different words to draw people in. You highlight multiple stories 96 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: of different women who were convinced over time that they 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: should be men. I think one of the things that 98 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: overwhelmed me in your book was the amount of parents 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: who kept going to the doctors and going I don't know, 100 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: why are you sure? And yet they kept threatening, I 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: mean not threatening, praying on their worst fears as a parent, 102 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: that you have to do this or else the consequences 103 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: will be the end of life. 104 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I consider parents to be victims of the gender 105 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: ideology cult as. 106 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: Well, because I think, you know, I should caveat. 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: This by saying there are certainly parents out there who, 108 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: for selfish or narcissistic reasons, they want to push a 109 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: child to transition, and this is usually because they themselves 110 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: want to be able to drag and say that they 111 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: have a trans child. This is the kind of parent 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: that you might see at a drag Queen's Story Hour 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: making their baby sit on the lap of a man 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: dressed in drag reading books about sex and gendered kids. 115 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: There's something very wrong there. But I think for most parents, 116 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: what's happening is their child is coming to them and saying, 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: I'm a boy, I'm not a girl, and I want 118 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: to get hormones and surgery, and I need you to 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: help me do it, because obviously, as a child, they 120 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: need parental permission. And so most parents, when they're confronted 121 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 3: with this situation, their gut instinct is, I don't want 122 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: my beautiful little girl to go through this. I don't 123 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 3: want my little daughter to get a double misactomy for 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: no reason except that she thinks she wants to. And 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: so they think, I don't know how to handle this. 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the medical professionals and ask 127 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: them what I should do, and unfortunately, very tragically the 128 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: medical professionals have all decided to adhere to ideology over 129 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: facts and science, and so when the parents go to them, 130 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: let's say a therapist. So a therapist will say you 131 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: have to affirm your child or you're going to put 132 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: your child in danger. And the exact line that they 133 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: give parents is would you rather have a dead daughter 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: or a living son? And that's a threat. That's a 135 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: threat saying if you do not comply with this ideology, 136 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: your child will die and it will be your fault. 137 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: And it's not true. It's a lie. It's based on 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: a lie. And we're finding out more and more lately 139 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: that this is in fact a lie. But most parents 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: these days are not equipped to understand how to come 141 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: back to this language. They're scared. They love their kids, 142 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: and so they agree to these types of things, thinking 143 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: that it must be the best thing for their kids 144 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: because they're being told that it is. So it's truly 145 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: tragic the level of betrayal here of a parent who 146 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: love their kids and they want to help them, they 147 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: seek the advice of medical professionals and their trust is betrayed. 148 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: And these detransitioners believe that they were betrayed and I 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: want to say that it's kind of it's a whole 150 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: scary situation because even the one D transitioner that you 151 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: write about in the book, she has gone to a 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: therapist all kinds of underlying issues. I mean, we're looking 153 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: when you describe these different folks, We're looking at everything 154 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: from schizophrenia to eating disorders, and there are all kinds 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: of underlying issues that would be the true cause for concern, 156 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: and yet it's being masked by these people who are like, hey, 157 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: let's PLoP them into the gender affirming care situation. And 158 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: so you have one person in the book I want 159 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: to bring up that has gone to a therapist, goes 160 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: to mom says I'm a boy. Mom argues that's not 161 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: the case. Like any I think average parent would say, no, 162 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: you're not, we're not doing this. And then the child 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: actually starts going to the school therapist and convinces Mom, 164 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: we're going to get I don't want to go to 165 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: this therapist anymore. I want to go to the school 166 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: therapist without telling Mom. The school therapist is egging this on, 167 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: saying yes, yes, you need this, you need this, and 168 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: then suddenly Mom gets bombarded when she goes into this meeting, 169 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: and the school therapist is like, hey, you're not taking 170 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: care of your kid. And we're seeing all these situations 171 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: where kids are being taken away from the parents, and 172 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I can't imagine that feeling as 173 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: mom walking into that room and finding out, Holy cow, 174 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: I was betrayed by the school therapist and they're telling 175 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: my child to go get on these drugs. That's a 176 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: whole other issue, right, No, this. 177 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: Is a massive betrayal. 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: And I was speaking recently in Colorado, which is Colorado 179 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: has an insane gender issues problem out there, where all 180 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: of these parents are constantly finding out that their kids 181 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: are being taught this or that without their knowledge, They're 182 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: being socially transitioned without their consent. It's very, very bad 183 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: in the state. And I was speaking to these parents 184 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: and we were having conversations about how the schools are 185 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: are trying to subvert their traditional and religious views to 186 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: their kids. And I told them, you are the enemy 187 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: to these school officials. 188 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: They view you as. 189 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: The enemy that needs to be defeated. And it sounds dramatic, 190 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: but unfortunately it's true that nowadays, if you hold any 191 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: kind of traditional or religious view on sexuality, gender, any 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: of these topics. You are considered a threat to your 193 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: kids by the school officials and by the state, and 194 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: they want to teach your children otherwise, and they will 195 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: do whatever they. 196 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Need to to do that. 197 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: So if that means quietly having meetings with your child 198 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: and telling your child that they can go by he 199 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: him and call your child who's a girl Andrew, they'll 200 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: do that. 201 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: If it means telling your child. 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: Not to tell you that they've been talking to you 203 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: about certain things, they'll do that. And it gets worse 204 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: and worse. We recently reported a Daily Signal about a 205 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: young girl who was on a overnight trip with her 206 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: middle school and got a signed to share bed with 207 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: a boy who identified it. 208 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gosh, this is a nightmare. It's been happening 209 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: at schools across the country. 210 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: It's so duplicitous. 211 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: And thankfully, in this little girl's case, her mom was 212 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: on the trip, not even as a chaperone. The mom 213 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: just had a gut instinct that she should be there 214 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: with her daughter, so she was able to get a 215 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: hold of her mother and get herself out of that situation. 216 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: But this is happening over and over. 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: Parents are being subverted, and the schools are trying to 218 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: say that they know best. One of the stories that 219 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: I shared in my book is that of Gaily Martinez, 220 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: a girl who tragically ended her own life after the 221 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: State of California took her from her mother, put her 222 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: on tiestosterone and was beginning to help her transition or 223 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: attempt to transition, since we know you can't actually do that. 224 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: And Yale, who was going by Andrew while in the 225 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: care of the State of California, ultimately put herself in 226 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: front of a train, knelt on the train tracks and 227 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: held her hands above her head rather than choose to 228 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: continue living because she was struggling so deeply with all 229 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: of her unresolved mental health issues and more brought on 230 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: by the testostero. 231 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 232 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast, I would say, okay, wait a minute. 233 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: A lot of these things that kids are going through 234 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: there are underlying mental health issues. A lot of this 235 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: is also growing up and going through puberty and all 236 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: the things that come with puberty and all the questions 237 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: and all of that, and these kids aren't getting to 238 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: explore that or have that real conversation about what's happening 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: with their bodies because they're being pushed into these hormones. 240 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: And so I bring up planned parenthood again because when 241 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: I was running for office, I talked about how I 242 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: didn't think planned parents should should have planned parenthood should 243 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: have any impact on our schools and what they talk 244 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: about in health class, and all the media was, oh, 245 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: she's so crazy there, Well that's bloney. They completely are. 246 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: They are helping to write the curriculum that's going into 247 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: our schools, and our schools are gladly accepting it. So 248 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: then you know that to me was just all about 249 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: keeping their business of abortion going. And I do believe that, 250 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: and they gave me crap about that. To all, she 251 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: just thinks they're trying to get people to come to 252 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: their clinics. Yeah, one hundred percent, I do, because that's 253 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: their business. They have a business, and they have no 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: business being in our kids' schools. But then I find 255 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: out from your book that they're providing testosterone, and I 256 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: want to go even further because this little girl decided 257 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: that she was going to take her own life. But 258 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: the descriptions that you have in this book about what 259 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: these people emotionally went through when they were on testosterone. 260 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: The anger, the rage, and we know that, you know, 261 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: we've heard about roid rage and all that, we know 262 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: that altering your hormones like this can cause major mood swings. 263 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: But they talk about a rage that is unlike any 264 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: anger they've ever felt before. And I encourage people to 265 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: read the book d Trands to understand that when we 266 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: are putting our kids in school to someone who has 267 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: been drugged up with these hormones, and we have no 268 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: idea how they're I shouldn't say that we fully understand 269 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: that the effect is going to be rage, disorientation, misunderstanding 270 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: of emotion, and they're going into our schools. We've seen 271 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: all of these transactivists who have been shooting up schools. 272 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't understand why people aren't going, wait a minute, 273 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: we got to get these kids off these drugs. 274 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: Right. There's a media blackout on the ramifications of these 275 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: hormones on young people. And if you remember when when 276 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: that shooting happened, it was considered absolutely outrageous to even 277 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: consider whether that girl was taking testosterone. In fact, I 278 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: reached out to the coroner's office the day the shooting 279 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: happened because I wanted to know, as someone who covers 280 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: these issues, if that girl the shooter had been taking dystosterone, 281 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: and the coroner was not willing to share the with me, 282 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: and they didn't really have the information at the time, 283 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: but he tried to act like I was asking something 284 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: insulting that I would question whether she had testosterone in 285 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: her system when she did this horrific act. So there's 286 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: a lot of unanswered questions here, and like you were saying, 287 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: the media backlash that you got for suggesting that planned 288 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: parenthood shouldn't be involved in our schools, the establishment media. 289 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: Has a very specific. 290 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: Set of rules that they go by, and under their 291 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: rule book, clam parenthood is not only good. Plant parenthood 292 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: is doing good and you don't question them. And so 293 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: the idea that anyone would say that plant parenthood doesn't 294 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: belong in schools is laughable to the establishment media because 295 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: they're not willing to question that. They're not willing to 296 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: think of it. Plant parenthood is anything other than a benefactor. 297 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: And so when people come out like Monica Klein, who 298 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: is a former sex educator that worked with plant Parenthood 299 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: and the public schools in Texas, and she tells them, yes, 300 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: This is a pipeline for little girls to be sexually 301 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: promiscuous and then head over to plant parenthood to abort 302 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: their babies. That's considered crazy, radical, why would you say 303 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: such a thing, But it's true. So that's why we need. 304 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: We need to be telling stories like this and helping 305 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: Americans to understand that no planned parenthood is not the 306 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: empathetic person to cry on their shoulder. They want to 307 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: abort your babies. They're willing to do it late term. 308 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: They're willing to do it how they make money exactly. 309 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: They're willing to do it as late term as possible. 310 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: And they've shown that over and over again, and they're 311 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: now facilitating this gender crisis where a young girl in 312 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: her teens can walk in there by herself and get 313 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: a prescription for testosterone within about twenty minutes. 314 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: That's crazy, it's shocking. 315 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: And the permanency of these changes, I mean you talk 316 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: about I think it was Prisha who had the beautiful 317 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: opera voice. She could, she was able to sing and 318 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: hit very high notes. And then she changes, she takes 319 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the testosterone, she can singing, she can never scream again. 320 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: That to me is the terror. I mean, you even say. 321 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: The thought that's like a bad nightmare is that you 322 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: can't scream. But she literally can no longer scream. This 323 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: has had these effects. And you may say, oh, that's 324 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: just her voice. Well, let's get into something that's going 325 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: to be incredibly uncomfortable, and that is bottom growth. And 326 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: to me, I was reading this and I'm like, oh 327 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: my gosh, the devastation of this, because one thing I 328 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: don't think we talk about when it comes to transition 329 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: is that these children have had their sex life permanently 330 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: altered and their ability to have an intimate relationship permanently altered. 331 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: And so these girls that are taking this testosterone, they 332 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: have this increase in growth in the cltorus and that 333 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: is suddenly growing outside of that protective shield in the vagina, 334 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and suddenly they have not only pain, but it's constant 335 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: pain because this is something that is no longer protected. 336 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: It's outside of it's rubbing on your clothing. It's a 337 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: constant pain. No more do they have any type of 338 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: pleasure in sex. Sex becomes something now they're on testosterone, 339 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: so they have a massive sex drive. That's the thing 340 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: you also don't understand. Suddenly you've just pounded these little 341 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: girls with testosterone and they just want to have sex, 342 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: and they have sex, and it is incredibly painful. It's 343 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: like a torture device. 344 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: It is. 345 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: It's a horrible conundrum to put these girls into. And 346 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: then I mean, God forbid, they undergo genital surgeries to 347 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: try and actually become a boy. That involves some really 348 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: invasive surgical procedures where they occasionally will use like your 349 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: intestinal lining to try and create a faux penis, which 350 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: will never work. I was listening to Abigail Schreier talking 351 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: about this earlier today. Actually, she wrote one of the 352 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: initial books, probably the biggest book on transgender issues ever, 353 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: Irreversible Damage, and she was saying that some of these girls, 354 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: when they undergo these surge you have to redirect where 355 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: the urine will come out of, which is you know, 356 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 3: it's disgusting as horrible, but if you think about the 357 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: logistics of how to pretend that these body parts work, 358 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: it just is horrific. And then for the guys, creating 359 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: a full vagina involves constructing a fake cavern that needs 360 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: to be it's like an open wound and it needs 361 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: to be continually kept open. So that involves kind of 362 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: a life of continually dilating this fake wound to try 363 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: and keep it open. 364 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: It's just horrific. 365 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: It's I've been told that, it's incredibly painful, incredibly, it 366 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: smells incredibly bad. 367 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Just just the whole. 368 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: Thing is awful in every respect. 369 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: And yet and the playing on the girl's emotions and 370 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: the voice depending on who it is. But if you 371 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: look at i mean dissecting your book a little bit, 372 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: just and what the people were saying is like, I 373 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: wanted so badly to say I'm going to be a 374 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: boy that they told me, you'll take this to stosterone, 375 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: you'll have this bottom growth and it's like your penis 376 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: is coming out. That's not what's happening at all. And 377 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: then once they find out, well that actually wasn't what 378 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: was happening, and these are medical professionals telling people this, 379 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: and then then they have this deformity that is painful 380 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: the rest of their lives. And so then you move 381 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: to the next thing is like, well we'll cut that 382 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: and we'll put a fake piece there that's actually never 383 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: going to do anything but the medical complications. And we've 384 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: talked about this before. It's another hard discussion to have 385 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: when they decide they're going to turn a little boy 386 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: into a little girl. And you talk about that open 387 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: wound and the stretching, and I think people are like, Okay, well, 388 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: you know that's hard to talk about. But there are 389 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: ways that the human body works to make sure that 390 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: things are clean, to make sure that you aren't getting 391 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: transferred from the back end to the front end, and 392 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen anymore. You talk about the smell. There 393 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: are some of these people that have gone through this 394 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: malpractice and it is medical malpractice, who have said people 395 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: can't stand to be around them because they smell so 396 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: bad and there's no turning back. 397 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's a butchering of individuals who are trusting 398 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: doctors who say, if you do this procedure, you will 399 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: be happier. 400 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: And I think that's incredibly evil. 401 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: This kind of it's like a spiritual promise of happiness 402 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 3: that physicians just making anyways. And that's part of the 403 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: reason I use the word cults in the subhead of 404 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: this book, because you know, there's a very cult like 405 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: aspect to these promises of happiness and affirmations and love 406 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: bombing and then gas lighting. 407 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Later on, explain the love bombing, because I think that's something. Also, 408 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: it's like, how did most people go, Well, this isn't 409 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: going to happen to my kid. However, those moments of 410 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: middle school and high school that are really dark and difficult, 411 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: suddenly there's online. Time you get on your device, you 412 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: get it sucked into some of these apps. Some of 413 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: these apps I didn't even know they existed, and then 414 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: this love bombing occurs. Explain all of this. 415 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the love bombing, and that's a word that 416 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: the D transitioners use themselves to describe this to me, 417 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: is when they they're being exposed to these gender activists online, 418 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: they're interacting with them in all these online spaces, and 419 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: they're being told you're amazing because you are trans you know, 420 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: you think you're a boy, Yes you are, You're a 421 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: beautiful boy. All kinds of affirmations encouraging them to transition. 422 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: And it feels really good for these D transitioners, these 423 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: young people, because part of the reason they're interested in 424 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: transitioning in the first place is because they're lonely, they're 425 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: kind of awkward, they don't have a lot of friends, 426 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 3: they don't fit in at school, and so suddenly they're 427 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: being told that they're beautiful and they're amazing, and that 428 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 3: they're persecuted, they're a victim and they deserve sympathy, and 429 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden, they're part of this 430 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: protected minority class and being told you are so special 431 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: because you are trans and they love it, you know, understandably. 432 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: So they really appreciate all of this. 433 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: Attention, and so. 434 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: It's also stripped away from them once they decide that 435 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: they are once they realize that they're not actually transgender, 436 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: and that you can't become a boy and a girl 437 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: can a girl can't become a boy, and a boy 438 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: can't become a girl, and they try and speak up 439 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: about it, this transgender community will tell them, you were 440 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: never part of us, We hate you, you want us dead, 441 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: We want you dead because you hate us, all kinds 442 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: of horrific things, and they're villain Oh yeah, they're valified. 443 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 3: They're cast out of the colts, and they endure a 444 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 3: lot of verbal abuse from the same people who are 445 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: formally love bombing them. 446 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, the same people who drew them in, the same 447 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: people who manipulated them to believe this. And if you 448 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: don't continue to believe the story then and you start 449 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: to speak out against it, then you must be punished. 450 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: And these are people that ended up there because they 451 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: didn't feel like they were in a good place as 452 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: it was. I think it's critical for us as parents 453 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: to understand this because it doesn't matter if this is 454 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: your child is how healthy and happy, they can get 455 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: pulled into this and the child mind is moldable, and 456 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: I believe that many of these children had their minds molded. 457 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: But if you also look back at just why these 458 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: doctors did this, you have some of these girls who 459 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: experience sexual assault, sexual assault, then you start to think, oh, 460 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to be attractive. I don't want people 461 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: to be attracted to me. Also, one of the things 462 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: that surprised me was the amount of these children that 463 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: had been exposed to porn early. And one of the 464 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: things that you talk about and that they talk about 465 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: is that in these pornographic scenes, women were kind of 466 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: depicted as slaves or being treated poorly, and they just thought, man, 467 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to be that person. I don't want 468 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: to be the person who in a sexual relationship it's 469 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: not loving, it's not kind, I'm being beaten or I'm 470 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: being forced to do this, and so they wanted to 471 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: take that identity away, and so take away your breast, 472 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: take away any defining features that make you female because 473 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: you'd been so scarred by what you'd seen or the 474 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: abuse that you had actually already endured. And none of 475 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: these doctors. You don't find that out in a fifteen 476 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: minute visit at Planned Parenthood. 477 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: Oh no. And I think this part really interested me because, 478 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: you know, with so many young girls on social media nowadays, 479 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: I think it's this horrible cocktail combo of seeing all 480 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: these representations of women online. 481 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: Younger girls when they're on. 482 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: Social media, they're not just looking to see what's out there, 483 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: they're looking for what they're supposed to be. So younger 484 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: girls are looking for, Okay, am I supposed to be her? 485 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: Am I supposed to be her? Like how am I 486 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: supposed to present to the world? And what they're seeing 487 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: or all these very promiscuously dressed women, you know, that's 488 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 3: very Instagram cultures. All these women who get a lot 489 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: of affirmation from men for their you know, they're very 490 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: dramatic beach pictures and things like that, and so these 491 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: little girls are thinking, I don't look anything like that. 492 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm kind of afraid. I don't know how to I 493 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: don't know how to replicate that. And then in pornography, 494 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: which they're being exposed to at. 495 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: Very young ages, boys even younger than girls, these girls 496 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: are seeing these really degrading depictions of womanhood and femininity, 497 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: and if you add in that many of them are 498 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: experiencing sexual assaults. 499 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: All of this is just. 500 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: Making them feel like, hey, they can't match up to 501 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: the really sexy images of women that they're seeing online. 502 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: B they're not sure if they. 503 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: Want to because it looks too scary and too much, 504 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: and so they're thinking, why would I want to be 505 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: a woman, And the gender activists are saying, because you're not, 506 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: You're a man. So it's a horrible little cocktail that 507 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: social media and pornography has created. 508 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 509 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. So I believe these groups that 510 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: come into our schools and teach our kids this like 511 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: a planned parenthood are hitting women from both angles. Either 512 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: you are going to be the powerful woman who is 513 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: just like a man, can go from relationship to relationship, 514 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: emanate that baby if it comes, and just keep powering 515 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: through and they take away the idea of life, they 516 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: take the idea of love, of relationship, or you are 517 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: so damaged that you must be the opposite sex. And 518 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: so they're getting girls from both ends of the emotional spectrum. 519 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: And so you have some women who get into their 520 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: forties and they say, man, I was so focused on 521 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: being this power woman that I never ended up having 522 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: that family, having that relationship, having that love. And I 523 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: believe that that was partially pushed on them in school 524 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: or the opposite. You have someone like Pussia, who you 525 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: talk about in your book, who has gone through all 526 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: of this transition, is now detransitioning and realizing, my gosh, 527 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I was a child. They had no idea what I 528 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: was doing. And now my long to for motherhood, my 529 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: longing for motherhood. And we hear this from women who say, 530 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, I thought I'd never want to have kids, 531 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: and then I got married at thirty five and realize that, wow, 532 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: what a great thing. I'm going to have my first baby. 533 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: That will never happen. For Pressia, these children were taken 534 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: into a system that I think is selfish, and I 535 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: think it is about money, and it is about experimentation 536 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: and is about the next medical journal that you can 537 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: have your name published in. It is like the ultimate Frankenstein. 538 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: And these girls are the victims. And yet there doesn't 539 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: seem to be any way to go back at these 540 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: people and say, stop convincing girls to give up their lives, 541 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: love and life, and stop convincing girls to give up 542 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: their sexuality and their gender. 543 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: I think one really effective measure against all of this 544 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: is the lawsuits that are starting to come out. Harmei 545 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: Dylan is representing Chloe Cole and Luka Hein pre Shows 546 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: represented by Campbell Miller Payin, which is another law firm 547 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: that's starting to represent these transitioners. But these lawsuits are 548 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: so amazing because they name and shame the doctors, the therapists, 549 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: the medical organizations, the schools, and that is huge. And 550 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: they're also helping these major establishment met the organizations to 551 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: cover the stories at all. You know, they're forcing them 552 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: waiting right, They've been avoiding it. They would rather report 553 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: on anything else. But the lawsuits are saying, no, this 554 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: is legitimate, this is a real issue. You must pay 555 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: attention to it. And then also people like Chloe Cole 556 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: have become such massive voices in the movement against gender ideology, 557 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: that they are really helping people to understand that this 558 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: is an issue that needs to be paid attention to. 559 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: So that's part of the reason I wrote this book 560 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: is because I thought, you know what, these are stories 561 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: that deserve to be told in depth. I want people 562 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: to understand these really intimate, vulnerable details and see the 563 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: full picture that maybe you couldn't get in a really 564 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: quick news hit, you know, like a three minute hit 565 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: where they can say what happened to them, but they 566 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: can't really share their. 567 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: Story with you. 568 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: So that was my hope to kind of equip people 569 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: to understand what's actually going on here. 570 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: And that's what I would encourage people. It is a 571 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: quick read, but if you are raising kids right now, 572 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people who are struggling 573 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: even with their kids talking about their friends that are 574 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: going through this, read through this book fully understand, understand 575 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: how to talk about it, Understand what these young men 576 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: and women went through when they were dragged into something 577 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: that they were actually The funny thing to me is, 578 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: as I read through this, it seems as though they 579 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: were all actually dragged kicking and screaming. It was like 580 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: and then once you get to a point you can't 581 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: come back from it, and you can never come back 582 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: from it. Their lives are permanently altered. But we see 583 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: over in Europe, the Europeans have been like, you know what, 584 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: this is some pretty mess step stuff. We're going to stop. 585 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: We're not doing this anymore. They're not giving out these hormones, 586 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: they're not doing surgeries on children. And yet these organizations, 587 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: these hospital systems in the United States are making massive 588 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: amounts of money on this, the planned parenthood. I think 589 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: it was between two hundred and two hundred and fifty 590 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: dollars a month that this girl was paying to get 591 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: her testosterone. I mean, think about that adds up over time. 592 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: If you can convince people, money talks and money as 593 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: a motivator to get people to keep doing this. And 594 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: they don't care how dark it is. They obviously don't care. 595 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: They've sent these women home to give birth to dead 596 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: babies and their homes. Why do they care if they're 597 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: going to take away their ability to reproduce and all 598 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: to permanently alter their bodies. This is a twisted organization 599 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: and it is time for us to fight back. It's 600 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: time for us to look at what other countries are 601 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: doing and saying why is the United States any different? 602 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: And to be enlightened by this, I think you have 603 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: to read this book. So I'm going to hold it 604 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: up one more time. It is called d Trans and 605 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: just so you're clear, it's the true stories of escaping 606 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the gender identity cult. And as you said, you use 607 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: cult for a reason. Can you tell our audience where 608 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: they can get the book. 609 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: You can get it on Amazon, Target for now, Walmart, 610 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: and I believe Simon. 611 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: And Schuster wonderful. I mean, it really is. Like I said, 612 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: it's a quick read. It's kind of one of those 613 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: ones that drags you in and you're like, holy cow, 614 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: it's so eye opening to see what is really happening. 615 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: It's an ugly conversation. I think a lot of people 616 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: have shied away from it. This is going to give 617 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: you that time and space alone to read about this, 618 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: understand it, and then be able to really kind of 619 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: fight back against it. I know I have some friends 620 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and their school system they have a multitude of trans 621 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: kids because we know it's a social contagion, and so 622 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: one school has about ten children that are going through this, 623 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: and it's a small school. And the other parents. They're 624 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: looking for answers, They're like, how do we even discuss this? 625 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: I think that this is a huge resource for parents 626 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: who are in that situation. So I just want you 627 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: to know we appreciate your taking time today to talk 628 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: about this and writing the book and helping all of 629 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: us parents understand what's going on. 630 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, and I'm so grateful to you for reading 631 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: a book and for giving me a chance to talk 632 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: about it. 633 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: It's so important. 634 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: Don't forget her name, Mary, Margaret Olihan. I think we're 635 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: going to be seeing a lot more of you. Thank 636 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: you for coming on today, Thank you for having me absolutely, 637 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: and thank you all for joining the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 638 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: For this episode and others, go to Tutordison podcast dot com. 639 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: You can subscribe right there, or head over to the 640 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts 641 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: and join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 642 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: Have a blessed day.