1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. Russell It takes the snap, 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: steps off in the pocket, looks has time. Now he's 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna drow Tyler Locker looks for the ball. He's got 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Straight Hawks getting you ready for Seahawks football 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: every Sunday. The handoff Insider cars and starts up. The 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: mental now bounces it then Stehawks powered by Seahawks dot Com. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into a brand new edition. Jen Kneeler and John 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Boyle with you and John, I think it is safe 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: to say the Seahawks did not follow the plan that 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: you and I drew up last week. So we're just 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with a better game plan. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: I think I don't think they really listened to us. Jen, 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't think to tell you, well, but we can try. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't mean that we just give up 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: on this, and it means that we keep we keep trying, 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: we keep trying, which I think is exactly what the 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks are going to do this week. We're not going 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: to spend a whole lot of time rehash last week 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: because well it was disappointing and it's just the tenth 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: time in Russell Wilson's career that he has lost back 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: to back games. But here's the good news, John, he 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: has never lost three consecutive games as a professional. Of course, 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have to execute on the field. And 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: I do think that the blessing and disguise from last week, 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: because you know that I'm an optimist and I'm a 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: silver lighting person, is the theme of focus and execution 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: has been top of mind around the facility this week, 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: and that reminder is not going away. Yeah. I mean 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: we heard that from Pete Carroll talking about just kind 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: of the serious vibe around the building of just guys 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: are they're really dialed in. They're you know, they're not 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: going to all of a sudden rip up everything they 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: do and change how they do it. You know, that's 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: a big thing for Pete Carroll is treat every week 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: the same every weeks the championship week, But guys do 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: seem to be really focused in on getting this right. 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Is it too early in the season to say that 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: this is a must win game. I don't like using 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: that phrase with any game this early in the year, 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: but I don't think we can avoid putting that importance 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: on this one. Yeah, you're right. I hate saying that 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: in September, and it's you know, it's a long season. 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: There's still you know what, they got fourteen left with 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: the seventeen game season, so there is always a chance 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: to recover. But if you're serious about trying to win 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: the NFC West, you just can't keep digging the hole. 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's two three and no teams already. They 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: are playing each other this weekend, so teams will start 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: beating up on each other. But yeah, it's you can't 50 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: fall this far behind this go to division so they 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: don't start winning games soon. And they've got two really 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: tough ones coming up in the division back to back, 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: and they've got the San Francisco forty nine ers this week. 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Then they turn around and play the La Rams on 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: a short week, which does add a little bit more 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: importance to the game against San Francisco. San Francisco was 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: that Sunday night game against the Green Bay Packer. San 58 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: France took a lead with thirty seven seconds to go, 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: but then that secondary gave up forty two yards and 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: I should not put it just on the secondary. John 61 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: gave up forty two yards. Aaron Rodgers finding holes in 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the field that led to the game 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: winning field goal with no time on the clock fifty 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: one yards out. It pained me to cheer for the pas. 65 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: It is really tough, isn't it. You're watching that game like, well, 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: this is good for the Seahawks if they win it. 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, then it's a weird feeling, kind 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: of like rooting for the Yankees. If you're a Mariners fan, 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Yeah, there are just some things that 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come to grips with. You don't 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: like them, but the outcome is good for your team. 72 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: But I do think that last week's game against Green 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Bay is something that the Seahawks need to look at, certainly, 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: not just from scheme and execution, but this is a 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: trend with Sam Francisco, and it's it's the opposite, it's converse, 76 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: it's inverse. I'm just gonna go opposite John, of what 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are doing. Sam Francisco has been great scoring 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: in the second half of games. The Seahawks are the 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: best in the NFL at scoring in the first half 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: of games, but they have not been able to sustain 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: that in the second half. What do you see in 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: just that part of the overall matchup. I mean that 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: it's a weird trend for both teams. That it's you know, 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: we were used to over the years, some of these 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Seahawks teams start slow and then finish strong, and they've 86 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: had the opposite problem this year. You know, I do 87 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: from a Seahawk standpoint, I think that's very fixable. They 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: just need to sustain a couple drives in the third 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: quarter and all of a sudden will look a lot better. 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: But that does tell you with these forty nine Ers 91 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: coming in, you cannot get complacent if you build a lead. 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the Seahawks would anyway, just 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: because they've been up big in the last two games 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and lost so but you got to expect if you 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: get ahead, if you're the Seahawks, the forty nine Ers 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: will have some big fight in them in the second half. Yeah, 97 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: And you know it's easy to say that those problems 98 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, well, I guess if you're in 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: either right, they're too big to fix, or if you're 100 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, of course the issues are fixable. But here's 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: what he sees those issues be it's it's worked on 102 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. We haven't been you know, 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: been getting off the field on defense and those you 104 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: know in the third quarter either, and so that's why 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the limited opportunities, and that's why it compounds the issue. 106 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: You know, when you when you go off and you 107 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: don't get back, you know, it's uh, you know, it 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: just amplifies the issue. So but I'm not concerned about 109 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: in any regard that we just got to get back out. 110 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: We got to get the job done because we obviously can, 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, and so we just got to make it happen. 112 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Pete saying it compounds the issue is kind of the 113 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: perfect excuse me explanation to me, because look, if we're 114 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: talking about I think it was the first two drives 115 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the last game, the Seahawks got two first downs. If 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about the defense playing a little better and 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: they get some stops, then you can have those two 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: drives and you maybe get two or three more possessions 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: in the second half, maybe you score ten points and 120 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: you're feeling a lot better about things. Conversely, if the 121 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: offense can stay on the field, keep one of those 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: drives going a little bit in the third quarter. You 123 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: take a lot of that time of possession away that 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: the Vikings used to really help put the game away. 125 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: So neither side needs to just make some drastic improvements. 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: But if both sides could just get a little better 127 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: in the second half, I can see it looking a 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: lot better overall, because it's that whole complimentary football thing. 129 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, let's talk about both sides of the wall 130 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: can help each other. Yeah, And it's led to some 131 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: out of wax stats for the Seahawks. They are last 132 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: in the league in time of possession, just twenty three minutes. 133 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: And when you run just fifteen offensive plays in the 134 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: second half of a game, that is where you lead 135 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: to such a disparity. Seattle has yet to score a 136 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: score at all. I was gonna say Touching has yet 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: to score at all in the third quarter of a game. 138 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: And John, to me, that's interesting because of how well 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: they have done in years past in making adjustments. They 140 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: are usually the ones to come out of the locker 141 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: room at halftime and get on the board. Although I 142 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: will say this, they didn't have the chance to do 143 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: that because Minnesota won the toss. They deferred, they got 144 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: the ball first in the third quarter, which leads me 145 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: to think that coin toss and winning the coin toss 146 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: has more effect on the game than perhaps I'd like 147 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: to give it credit for. Well, I mean it does. 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: If you're not getting off the fuel on defense, it shouldn't. 149 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: If you're out playing good defense and you get a 150 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: quick stop, then that possession doesn't really matter as much. 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: So again, look, both sides of all need to get better. 152 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm not too worried about the offense. I think it's 153 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: more just kind of a flukey thing than anything else. 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: That they've been so much better in the first half 155 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: of the second I think it's going to start balancing 156 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: out here and again, just one of those third quarter drives, 157 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: get some first downs, change fuel possession if you don't score, 158 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: and that's gonna make life easier on the defense this 159 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: week though that offense, for as much as we know 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: that establishing the run helps to balance everything out, that 161 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: is a tough ask this week against a forty nine 162 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Ers defense that is not allowed one hundred yard rusher 163 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: in twenty three games. That is the longest streak in 164 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. What do you make of the carries that 165 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: have been given, not just to Chris Carr. But you know, 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I thought Alex Collins had a good run last week 167 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: and then the ball didn't go to him. Again, what 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: do you make of the way that run game plays 169 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: into it and what they should be doing this week 170 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: in San France. Yeah, I mean I've seen a lot 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: of concern about you know, Chris Carson not getting the 172 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: ball enough and things like that. And to me, again, 173 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: this goes back to the conversation of the second hazard. 174 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Time possession are so out of whack, and you know 175 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: you only get a few possessions and there's just not 176 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: enough time chances to get him the ball, especially when 177 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: you get behind in some of these games. So, um, 178 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think they're going to to be balanced 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: and use those guys. But in terms of this week's matchup, yeah, 180 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: that's that's a tough ask. You know, that front of 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: the front seven to forty nine ers is just loaded, 182 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: and you know you need to as Pete Carroll says, 183 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: they're you know, they always want to be committed to 184 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: it and be able to call in the running game 185 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: when they need it. But this might be a week 186 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: where it's going to be tough sled And although I 187 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: do remember it wasn't there a really long streak of No. 188 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: One hundred yard rushers they had many years ago and 189 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch broke it. So maybe Chris Carson industry too. Oh. 190 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that coming into play. And 191 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: you mentioned that front seven of the forty nine ers, 192 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are going to have to deal with Nick Moosa. 193 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: That was not an issue last year. He was hurt 194 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: and he is back and and that becomes a problem. 195 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: And Fred Warner is a solid linebacker who takes after 196 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, and that's not going to be any easy 197 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: an easy task either, getting around those guys. And I'm 198 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna throw Eric Armenstet in there just because when you 199 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: look at his stats, he doesn't scare you. But when 200 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: you look at the pressures, you know, the advanced metrics 201 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: PF has him great at higher than Nick Mosa. Right now, 202 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: he's he's playing phenomenal. He's just more of the guy 203 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: who's beaten guys and occupying blocks and getting pressure, but 204 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: hasn't the sacks haven't come yet. But yeah, that's that 205 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: whole defense is pretty loaded, especially that front seven. Yeah, 206 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: and here's a fun thing. Those guys are being coached 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: by a former Seahawk, Darryl Tap. Did you see that 208 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: he's the assistant D line coach. I love Darryl Tap. 209 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Darryl Taplan's trying to bite me. I'm sorry what? Yeah, 210 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: I thought i'd throw that in there. It was joking. 211 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: So do you remember Aaron Rodgers accused him of biting 212 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: him in a pile. I don't know if you remember. Yes, So, 213 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: so Daryl Tap was trying to make his point in 214 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: the locker room the falling week, like, how could I 215 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: have even bitten him? He put his helmet on and 216 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: he said, asked for a volunteer. So I held my 217 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: arm out and he demonstrated that I can't bite you 218 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: through a face mask. Get your arm in my mouth. 219 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, fun story, very random. I can only imagine 220 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: what kind of reaction that gets when you tell that 221 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: story at a bar. I don't think I have. I'd 222 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: forgotten all about it. I'm so glad that we could 223 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: bring that back, relieving this in the podcast that solutely 224 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: it'd staying And are you kidding me? We're not cutting 225 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: that all right? Sure? Okay, So let's take a look 226 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: at the other side of this matchup. And the forty 227 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: nine ers offense against the Seahawks defense. Look, John, there's 228 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of consternation around the Seahawks defense this week. 229 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: We saw the guys jawing at each other on the field. 230 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: Coaches have been asked about it, Players have been asked 231 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: about it. How would you characterize what we saw on 232 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: Sunday and what's actually happening right now. I mean, it's 233 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 1: what we saw Sunday was I think a mixture of 234 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: a lot of things. Some of it was scheme, not 235 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: guys being confused scheme, but they were really concerned about 236 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, we saw two weeks ago Julio Jones getting deep. 237 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: We saw a j Brown getting deep, although he dropped 238 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: the one that really could have burned the Seahawks. But 239 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a kind of an overcorrection, if you will, 240 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: if we got to keep guys in front of us. 241 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we always know with Pete Carroll it's don't 242 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: get beat deep, don't don't let each over the top. 243 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: And for the most part of the sex didn't do that. 244 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: But with that came some guys just wide open underneath 245 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: for some big games. So they're gonna have to correct 246 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: that so they're not you know, you don't want to 247 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: get beat deeper. You also can't give up all these 248 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: easy third downs and look, guys are fresh trade. That's 249 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: going to happen when you're getting beat. I think we're 250 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: going to see a good response. There's good leadership in 251 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: that room, and I you know, I really think there's 252 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: too much challenge for the defense to keep playing like that. Well, 253 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: and it's tricky though against the way the forty nine 254 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: ers run this offense, and you wouldn't think it, but 255 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: it's the full back Kyle Uscheck that's in the middle 256 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: that really throws a wrench in this one. Pete Carroll 257 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: knows that he is a unique player and presents some 258 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: unique challenges. Yeah, well he's he's absolutely rare. There's there's 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: no other nobody else like him. You know. They they 260 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: line up and with two backs in the game and 261 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: the tight end and two receivers, and they can play 262 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: every personnel that you can. You can put up the 263 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: looks and the concepts and the principles of three wides 264 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: and the tight end and two tight ends and two 265 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: backs and all that two tight ends and one back, 266 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: two receivers. They do all of it, and it's just 267 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: for them, it's just rolls off their their style of play, 268 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, and it's a big issue. It's different when 269 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: when you see the guys run on the field and 270 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: they've got a different personnel group on the field, and 271 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: then you know that that personnel group represents their style 272 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: of the play and formations and things like that, and 273 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: you you defended accordingly. When you don't know, you have 274 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: to wait and see. And so it's a it's really 275 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: a very very important part of their offense. And he's 276 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I mean, it's he's really kind of 277 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: one of one in the NFL. Most teams either don't 278 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: have a fullback, or they use him on you know, 279 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: the occasional short yardage thing, or they move him to 280 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: linebacker if you're the Seahawks. But you know, it's you 281 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: have this guy who they move him around that you know, 282 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: in the late in the game, they're you know, having 283 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: him run slant routes and hitting him over the middle 284 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: of the field. He just he's such a unique player. 285 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: And as Pete Carroll's just outlining there, you just when 286 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: you have that kind of chess piece, it's hard to 287 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: defend because there's no obvious tell of he's on the field. 288 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: They're doing this, they're doing that. So you know, between him, 289 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: George Kittle, some of these weapons they have obviously Deebo Samuel, 290 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: It's it's a really tough offense and like any good 291 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: chan in offense, they can beach in a lot of 292 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: ways well. And it goes back though to the recognition 293 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: and the focus needed to be able to identify what's 294 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: going on in the field. That's not going to be easy. 295 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: Just like last week it wasn't easy to sniff out 296 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: those screen passes early. It's not going to be easy 297 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: early in this one. And you can't let the forty 298 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: nine ers get any momentum. You mentioned Deebo Samuel. He 299 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: is second in the NFL in total yards for a 300 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and there is no question that he is 301 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: a star player. He's really become a special part of 302 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: their team, and I really see him as the star 303 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: player for them. You know, he they utilize him in 304 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a fashion where they're they're always looking to get him 305 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: the football, they're positioning him to make the plays, they're 306 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: counting on him to do the things he does well. 307 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: They've really used him well, you know in the sense 308 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: that you can see what he has. It's unique. He's 309 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: really physical, he's fast enough to run away from guys. 310 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: He's got a great competitive streak about him. Um, you know, 311 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: so between he and Kittle, you know, those two guys 312 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: and just getting the ball and then that's that's a 313 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: lot of firepower for them and maybe a little less 314 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: traditional way than we would think, but that those guys 315 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: are all they're all explosive and they make big things happen. Yeah, 316 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, Deepa Samuel missed a lot of last year 317 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: with some injuries and I think there's some illness in 318 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: there too, but he you could see something missing from 319 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: their offense, and he was so excited as a rookie. 320 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't quite a fully formed player yet, 321 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: but did a lot of big things with the ball 322 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: in his hand. Like Pete Carroll said, he's a great 323 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: run after catch guy. They can use him on the 324 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: jet sweep stuff all that, and then they missed him 325 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot last year. Now that he's back and healthy, 326 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: we're kind of starting to see the full version of 327 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: what he can be in that offense. And he's a 328 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: scary player again. You know, he's just a he looks 329 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: kind of like a running back with the ball in 330 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: his hands, and he's a big, strong, you know, breaks 331 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: tackles kind of guy. So, you know, the secondary that 332 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: has you know, started a little bit with some top receivers. 333 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: The last two weeks we saw you know, arguably two 334 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: of the better receiving duos in the NFL and back 335 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: to back weeks and now you know, Kittle's not a receiver, 336 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: but a great past catching duel that Pete Carroll has 337 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: mentioned in those two This is going to be a 338 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: chance for the defense to really show if it has 339 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: made some progress from last week to this week, because 340 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: they're going to be tested how much do the Seahawks 341 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: need to consider personnel changes versus just executing what they're 342 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be executed. And I'm not trying to stir 343 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: it up. It's just part of the conversation that's been 344 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: happening over the course of the week. And look, if 345 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: that weren't an option of consideration, Pete Carroll could have 346 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: put that to bed by now. I mean, he's i 347 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: think intentionally left the door pretty wide open when every 348 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: time he's asked about cornerback in particular and about Sidney 349 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Jones about bless Austin. I mean he talks about those 350 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: guys being closer to ready and the competition being on 351 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: and all that. You know, I don't necessarily think we're 352 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: going to see changes to the starting lineup. We'll see, 353 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: but what's more interesting to me is are you willing 354 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: to rotate guys as a position where you don't usually 355 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: rotate them. I mean, Pete Carroll has said that that 356 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: that's a tough position to do that, and they don't 357 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: usually do it. But ultimately, if you're going to have 358 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: a competition play out, you need some gamerps for those guys. 359 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: And we've seen him do it. It's some offensive line spots. 360 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: They were doing it with Post sick and Fuller before 361 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: Posted got hurt in week one. We've seen him do 362 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: it at the Nickel spot before Mark's player was hurt. 363 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: So maybe that's the solution. You give those guys a 364 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: couple series and see how it plays out. But yeah, 365 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: it's Pique clearly not shut the door on any changes. Well, 366 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: and Marquis Blair did return to practice this week, and 367 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: I do think that changes things. I also think, not 368 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: to make excuses, I think that there were a lot 369 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: of guys that had bad days on the same day, right, 370 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: And part of that is a trickle down or a waterfaller, 371 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. But there were a 372 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: lot of guys that were just a little bit off 373 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: and that compounded some problems. For sure, Deebo Samuel with 374 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty four yards that a second. As 375 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned in the NFL worth noting that Tyler Lockett 376 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: is tied for fourth in the NFL with three o 377 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: nine and John for all that you talked about the 378 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: firepower that he is, there is this stat coming out 379 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: of San Francisco. Eleven different players have scored the first 380 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns of the season. That is the first time 381 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: that has happened since the merger. I can't imagine it 382 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: happened before the merger either. We just don't necessarily have 383 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: stats for that. What do you make of how that 384 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: ball is being spread around? Yeah, I mean, first of all, 385 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: that's just kind of a weird flukey thing. I saw 386 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: that on the you know, we get we get these 387 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: weekly stat packs for people who are at home listening, 388 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: and they'll tell you, they'll tell you all the other 389 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: teams leaders of you know, rushing receiving whatever and one 390 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: of them scoring, and normally you maybe have one guy 391 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: with three or four touchdowns this time of year, and 392 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: it says eleven guys have each scored six points, so 393 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: the one touchdown. So that really kind of made me 394 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: confused when I saw that, but sure enough, it's you know, 395 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: I think also it speaks to just both the versatility 396 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: the style of offense that they have understand and and 397 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: just the depth of different weapons they have. I mean, again, 398 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: that's probably a little flukey and it won't continue that 399 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: way that evenly, but when you have we've talked about 400 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: all these different guys at receiver, tight end, fullback, different 401 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: running backs they've used, there's there's just a lot of 402 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: different weapons they can go to. Well, and the guy 403 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: that's running the offense at least for now is Amy Garoppolo. 404 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: He is completing about sixty seven percent of his passes. 405 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: He looks different this year. Will dive into what is 406 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: different about him, but first he is facing some pressure, 407 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: feeling some pressure perhaps from Trey Lance, the quarterback that 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: they drafted out of North Dakota State, but Pete Carroll 409 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: says he has handled it like a champ. Well, I 410 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: think he's like a real competitor. You know, he hasn't 411 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: backed off at all. And I thought he dealt with 412 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: it really well and handled it, you know, anytimes you 413 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: guys would ask him, you know, his comments, his feelings 414 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: about it, he handled it really well and h and welcomed, 415 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, welcome. They ask that to the team and 416 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: they're using him. You know. I don't know if you 417 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: guys remember, but way back when when Joe Montana's first 418 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Startuplace happens to be the Niners, you know, that's Coach 419 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Walsh used Joe, you know, like on third downs and 420 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: red zone type of situations when he first was breaking 421 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: them in. And so there's a little a little something there. 422 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: But I think Jimmy handle it really well. He's playing 423 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: good football and put him in position to win three 424 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: games for rut out of the shoes. I unfortunately do 425 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: not remember Joe Montana's rookie year, but that's a little 426 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: before my time. But yeah, I mean to Pete Carroll's point, 427 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: that's I think different quarterbacks and different athletes can go 428 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: different ways in that situation. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo is 429 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: a smart guy. He knows when they use a number 430 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: three pick on a quarterback that's the future for them. 431 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: You just you don't go trade for that pick and 432 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: pick a quarterback. That guy's not your future. So you 433 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of know you're playing on barrow time. You're being 434 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: asked to help mentor your replacement. That's tough and some 435 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: guys can go the wrong way on that. And he's 436 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: from all accounts, both on what you read here out 437 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: of the Bay Area and also how he's playing, he's 438 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: handling that very well. It's gonna be interested to me 439 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: to see also how they continue to use lands. They've 440 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: they've kind of worked in some more packages for him, 441 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: and he's playing a series here there, coming in in 442 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: the red zone, things like that. So I'm sure they 443 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: got some wrinkles to throw out the Seahawks. Maybe at 444 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: some point he starts playing more. We'll see how this 445 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: plays out, but it is going to be kind of 446 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: fun to see how they use that young, very talented 447 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: quarterback in addition to Garoppolo well, and for this week, 448 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like the ratio between those two will stay 449 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: about the same. There is some debate going on in 450 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: the Bay Area, but Shanahan has already come out and 451 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: say said that they are not necessarily looking for more 452 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: snaps for Trey Lance at this point in the season. Now, 453 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: we know that Jimmy Garoppolo has been around the league 454 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: for a few years. But when we talked to Bobby 455 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: Wagner earlier this week, he said, what's different is he 456 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: is getting the ball out quicker and John, I looked 457 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: up these next Gen stats. Have you had a chance 458 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: to look at him, because Bobby thought he was among 459 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: the best in the league. So here's what I found. 460 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: According to NFL's Next Gen stats, Garoppolo was getting the 461 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: ball out in two point five four seconds. That is 462 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the sixth fastest time to throw in the league. The 463 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: Seahawks should be pretty it should be pretty easy for 464 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: them to adapt and to deal with that because Kirk 465 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: Cousins was right behind him at two point five eight. 466 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: By comparison, Russes at two point seven, So that two 467 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: point seven doesn't sound like a lot, but it does 468 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: speak things up for certainly the pass rush who's trying 469 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: to get there and with all of the things that 470 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about on offense and the versatility part of 471 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: that works. Because he was getting the ball out so quickly. 472 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing your homework and looking it up. 473 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: But I'm just going to trust a Hall of Fame 474 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: linebacker that he knows what he's talking about. If if 475 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: he tells me that Jimmy Garoppolo is getting the ball 476 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: out fast, I'm gonna believe Bobby Wagner. It's not that 477 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: I didn't believe him. I wanted the numbers to go 478 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: with it. All right, fair enough, No, And it's you're 479 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: mentioning Cousins is a great point because that was a 480 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: big issue that Pete Carroll and some of the players 481 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: talked about last week because they weren't getting to the quarterback, 482 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 1: they weren't affecting him. And that's Kirk Cousins as yet 483 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: to turn the ball over this year, and that's big 484 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: part of their offensive success. And that's one thing the 485 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: Seahawks have kind of been missing this year. They don't 486 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: have any interceptions, they only have the two forced fumblecover returnovers. 487 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: So it's going to be tough. As you said, he's 488 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: getting the ball out quickly, but you gotta find ways, 489 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: even if you're not sacking him a bunch, just to 490 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: get there, get the ball out quick and hope you 491 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: can force him into mistakes. I've got two more quick 492 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: topics for you before we wrap this up. We have 493 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: not talked about DK Metcalf yet. Well, he didn't get 494 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot of touches in the second half. Nobody 495 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: in the offense did. He was very involved in the 496 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: opening drive in Minnesota. Fifty four of the seventy four 497 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: yards of that opening drive were DK's yards. He said 498 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: that it was really a point of emphasis to focus 499 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: and to be where his feet are. What do you 500 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: think that opening drive did for him? I mean, it's 501 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: got not that he ever lacked confidence, but it's got 502 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: to be great for him to just go out and say, look, 503 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm a dominant player. They get me 504 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: the ball and good things happen. It's you know, it's 505 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: natural for any competitor if things aren't going your way 506 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: for the first couple of games, to not necessarily get 507 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: all down in the dumps, but just get a little frustrated. 508 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, we hear from both him 509 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: and Pete. Carrolly kind of worked on turning his mentality 510 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: a little bit in the middle of that Tennessee game, 511 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, to get off to that starts it's great 512 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: to see and it's it's just a good reminder of 513 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: what this passing game can be. Where you get two 514 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: weeks of Tyler Lockett going off but not big numbers, 515 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: and okay, he has a more quiet game and here 516 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: comes to DK Metcalf and that's to me, ultimately, what 517 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: can make this offense so good is the picture poison 518 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: element of It might be one thing to take one 519 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: receiver out of a game, but when he got two 520 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: that good. It's really tough. And now hopefully we see 521 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: Eskers coming back for he had another fun, exciting element 522 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: to this offense because you know, we only saw a 523 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: couple touches out of him in the opener, but he 524 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: looked pretty explosive when we did see him. He looked 525 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: pretty fast. And to go back to the start of 526 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: this conversation, the corners in San fran have been struggling 527 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: just a little bit. You would think that there's some 528 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: opportunities down field to get some speed out there and 529 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: some options for the Seahawks. Last quick question before we 530 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: get to the two things that you need to see 531 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: from the Seahawks to get a win this week. After 532 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: covering Pete Carroll in this team for so long, what 533 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: do you know to be true when faced with the 534 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: adversity that they've seen in the last two weeks. I 535 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: think I know they'll respond. Well, I'm not gonna go 536 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: out and guarantee you victory or anything like that, but 537 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: I just I've seen too much of both Pete Carroll 538 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson in particular. We always hear from John 539 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: Schneider say that's the two most important people in the 540 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: building on an NFL team, the quarterback and the head coach. 541 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: So while everybody on the team needs respond, those are 542 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: two of the guys that can make it happen the most, 543 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: and they are both just built well to handle this. 544 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: So I do think we're going to see this team 545 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: go on the road, and you know they won't. You 546 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: don't fix every single mistake in one week. And I 547 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: don't think we're going to see the defense pitch of 548 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: shutout and all that. But I think we'll see some 549 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: improvements and hopefully it's enough to turn the tides and 550 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: get a win. Okay, well, let's piggyback on that and 551 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: keep going. What are the two things you need to 552 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: see from the Seahawks if they are going to come 553 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: away with a win this week. You read I'd be 554 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: happy to. We just talked about the difficulty of getting 555 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: to Garoppolo and him getting the ball out, but I 556 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: still want to see that again. They don't need to 557 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: sack him a bunch, but maybe let's get to two 558 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: or three sacks and let's hit him eight or nine times, 559 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: even if you're not sacking him a ton, so make 560 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: it look more like that Colts game and less like 561 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: last few games where the pressure has been alone consistently. 562 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Love what we saw at Darryl Taylor getting that strip sack. 563 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: You know, if they get him some more of that, 564 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: that'd be great. So for me, that's on defense, and 565 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: then you know, we've talked about the secondary issues that 566 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: would help there a lot as well. If you're if 567 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: you're getting the pressure, that can mask a lot of 568 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: issues in the back end. Offensively, score some third quarter points. 569 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't need to be you know, a 570 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: bunch of touchdowns, but just balance out the first and 571 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: second halves to where you're keeping that offense on the field, 572 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: both for the points that that gets you obviously that 573 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: you need, but also to take some burden off the defense. 574 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: I am going to add to that, I would like 575 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: to see the ground game really take over this week. 576 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: I want to see over one hundred yards. Rushing doesn't 577 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: have to come from one player. I would like to 578 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: see over one hundred yards because if you can get 579 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: time of possession in your favor, that takes some pressure 580 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: off the defense as well. I would also like to 581 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: see at least one takeaway, ideally an interception, but I 582 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 1: don't I'm not going to be picky about how they 583 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: get that ball. I know that turnovers come in bunches, 584 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: and I'd like to see at least one happened this 585 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: week against Sam fran I like it. Now, get the 586 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: ball away. Now that it has your seal of approval, 587 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: I think that we can wrap up I do. I 588 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: always need your approval, John. It is what makes this 589 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: work between us. I think it is another I beg 590 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: to different that is, it is the seal of approval 591 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: that I need to end this show. We hope that 592 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed this week's edition of the Seahawks Insiders podcast. 593 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: We will be back with you next week to see 594 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: how we did talk about the next Seahawks matchup.