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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday er Torris,

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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. College football, Jaymartin, I'll say

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Speaker 2: this first year the twelve team playoff era, this feels

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Speaker 2: like the conference championship Saturday in college basketball. Texas is

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Speaker 2: still playing. They're up seventeen to seven. They just stuffed

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M on the goal line. Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M was trying to cut it to a three

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Speaker 2: point game. Texas has the ball. Iowa State clinches a

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Speaker 2: spot in the Big twelve championship game with a win

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Speaker 2: here against Kansas State. Just a minute or two left

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Speaker 2: in that game BYU, of course, could be in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Oregon just took care of business against Washington Florida. Florida

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Speaker 2: State had no playoff implications, but there was another flag

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Speaker 2: plant slash fight. Jymart Have you had fun watching college

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Speaker 2: football for the last twelve hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been wild. I mean I've just had

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Speaker 3: multiple screens on all day. I was exercising earlier. I

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Speaker 3: had the iPad on one game, I had the big

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Speaker 3: screen on another game. And it's been that way all day.

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Speaker 3: There's been at least two that I've been interested in

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Speaker 3: at all times. Just craziness all across the country. Massive stakes,

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Speaker 3: maybe not as big as stakes in some of the losses,

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Speaker 3: but in some huge stakes as well. And on top

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Speaker 3: of that, Survivor Series was tonight, So all of this

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Speaker 3: is happening, and I managed to somehow see most all

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Speaker 3: of it, and it does look like we're getting towards

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Speaker 3: the end of one that looked a little bit dangerous.

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Speaker 3: But luckily for Steve Sarkisi and Texas A and M

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Speaker 3: literally has no offense, Like they can't move the football.

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Speaker 3: If they could, they might have won this game.

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Speaker 2: That was Jamart's big bull take from this week was

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Speaker 2: when all the scenarios were playing out and we saw

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Speaker 2: that even after a loss to Auburn, that Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M would be playing to go to the SEC title.

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Speaker 2: All I remember from last week, you were like, just

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Speaker 2: don't put SEC. Don't put Texas A and M in

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Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game. I don't want to watch that.

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Speaker 2: They don't deserve to be there. Well, it doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like it's gonna matter. Texas up seventeen to seven, they

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Speaker 2: have the ball three minutes left, Texas A and M

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Speaker 2: down to one timeout, so it is a two possession game.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine this one not resulting in a

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Speaker 2: Texas A and or a Texas win. And we will

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Speaker 2: get to it once this game goes final. But I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, Jamart, while we wait for this game

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Speaker 2: to go final, while we wait to kind of reset

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Speaker 2: the playoff picture, we got to go to a game

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Speaker 2: that listen, you just laid it out. I know that

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Speaker 2: it doesn't impact the bigger picture of one team season,

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Speaker 2: of the losing team season in terms of what they

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Speaker 2: can accomplish this year. But I'll tell you this, I

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Speaker 2: would not want to be Ryan Day right now. I

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Speaker 2: would not want to be Ryan Day's family right now.

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Speaker 2: I would not even want to be an Ohio State

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Speaker 2: fan right now, because for the fourth straight year, Ohio

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Speaker 2: State has lost to Michigan. By now, you've heard Martin

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Speaker 2: and VJ talk about it, Monsei and Steve the earlier shows,

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Speaker 2: but this was Jay Martin. You and I are not

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Speaker 2: Ryan Day fans in the least. I've never been a believer.

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Speaker 2: Born on third base thinks he hit a triple. That

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Speaker 2: was the famous Jim Harbaugh quote. Never said it was

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Speaker 2: about Ryan Day, but we knew it was. But even

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Speaker 2: the most ardent person that does not believe in Ryan

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Speaker 2: Day did not see a scenario or at least I

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Speaker 2: did it where they lose this game a twenty plus

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Speaker 2: point favorite at home. This is the worst Michigan team

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Speaker 3: Definitely be the worst one he ever faces going forward.

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Speaker 2: And he couldn't get that shit jam like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: say what you just said? What No I said? And

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Speaker 2: he couldn't get the wins. So take the floor, Take

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Speaker 2: the floor, my friend, take the floor.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: All I was gonna say is this is the way

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Speaker 3: right This is the worst Michigan team Ryan Day will

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Speaker 3: get easier for you after this, And for some reason,

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Speaker 3: take the floor there, but I your point about this

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Speaker 3: being the worst Michigan team they've seen. It's the worst

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Speaker 3: one he's going to see. It's gonna get much harder

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately for Ryan Day, the problem is what we've

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Speaker 3: always said it is when it comes to Ryan Day,

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Speaker 3: which is his team plays like his attitude. His attitude

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Speaker 3: that mentality that this deserves and requires, and Michigan does.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter how much more talent was on

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Speaker 2: All right, So I'm just gonna I got this text

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Speaker 2: right as we went on air. I got a buddy

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Speaker 2: named Garrett Carr. He works for probible dot Com. He's

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Speaker 2: a college football writer. He's actually a Penn State fan,

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Speaker 2: so he's feeling himself a little bit right now. This

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Speaker 2: is I'm just gonna read the quote verbatim a text.

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Speaker 2: Imagine being a high school senior class of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: regular student deciding to attend Ohio State. Your senior year

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Speaker 2: of high school is ravaged by COVID, but you're going

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Speaker 2: to attend the Ohio State University, which hasn't lost to

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Speaker 2: Michigan in a decade, and you're light years ahead of

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Speaker 2: the rest of the Big Ten. And then you get

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Speaker 2: loses a national title on a miss field goal, and

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Speaker 2: Will Howard throw ducks as you lose to the war

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Speaker 2: first non COVID Michigan team in fifteen years. Michigan plants

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Speaker 2: the flag on your field twice in three years. It

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Speaker 2: may be your last home game as a student. My

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Speaker 2: buddy Garrett did not know. I don't think he even

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Speaker 2: knows that I host in this time slot. But you

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Speaker 2: talk about about a two hundred and fifty word text

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Speaker 2: that basically encapsulates the Ohio State student experience. Jmart I

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Speaker 2: don't think it gets much better than that, because because again, one,

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Speaker 2: coming the COVID season. We think Jim Harbaugh is getting fired,

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Speaker 2: and you think, okay, well that was a little bit fluky.

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Speaker 2: Then the second year happens and you say, wow, this

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Speaker 2: is getting weird. Then the third year happens and you're mad.

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Speaker 2: But Michigan wins a national championship. They're coming off the

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Speaker 2: cheating scandal, which I think was overblown, but that's another

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Speaker 2: story for another day. He say, oh, we got to

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Speaker 2: get ourselves a play caller, so you hire Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 2: He's a sitting head coach. Oh, this guy's to be

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Speaker 2: the answer. And so I think that's what stands out

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Speaker 2: about this one J. Mart is that in previous years

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Speaker 2: we've heard that, you know, remember back to that first

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Speaker 2: year that they lost with Stroud and all them, Oh

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Speaker 2: they're they're the flu is ravaging the locker room. And

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Speaker 2: then uh, you know it's it's the defense's fault. Then

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Speaker 2: you fix the defense, and then oh, my goodness, the offense.

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Speaker 2: Ryan da should to be a play caller.

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Speaker 3: In this era.

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Speaker 2: Uh, make him a CEO head coach. So you go

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Speaker 2: get Schip Kelly and as you said, worst Michigan team

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Speaker 2: that he will face ever as Ohio State head coach.

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Speaker 2: You can't get it done. Let me let me say

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Speaker 2: this and let me ask you this. Okay, Yes, the

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Speaker 2: in theory, I don't want to say everything that you're

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Speaker 2: playing for is still in front of you because you're

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Speaker 2: not playing for a Big Ten title for the fourth

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Speaker 2: straight year, which is I don't care what, I don't

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Speaker 2: care how much expansion, how tough the schedule is. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna play for a Big Ten championship. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you are still gonna go to the playoff, and probably

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Speaker 2: around eight thirty or so we will reset the playoff

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Speaker 2: picture as all these games go final in the you know,

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Speaker 2: it up, j Mart, because you're not gonna make a playoff.

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Speaker 2: You didn't beat Michigan. Let me ask you this. So

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Speaker 2: so Day has just an absurd buyout. It's thirty seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars something in that neighborhood. But one First of all,

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Speaker 2: the name of Ross b York. Where did he come from? Texas?

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Speaker 2: A and M who fired jimbo Fisher and paid him

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Speaker 2: twice the amount of money and you know whatever and buyout?

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Speaker 2: But two, like two questions, do you think Ryan Day

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Speaker 2: is back next year? And if you don't think he's

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Speaker 2: back next year? Or do you think he's back next year?

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Speaker 2: And if so, what has to happen between? Like I guess,

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Speaker 2: let me and I'm tripping over our words here. But

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Speaker 2: two part question is is there any scenario where he

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Speaker 2: you to be confident to say that he's the Ohio

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Speaker 3: So immediately after the game, I listened to like the

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Speaker 3: instant reaction that Andy Staples and Arii Wasserman did because

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Speaker 3: that I wanted to hear what he said about Ryan Day. Afterwards,

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Speaker 3: they are certain that Ryan Day will not get fired,

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Speaker 3: that that's not even into cards, it's not even a possibility,

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Speaker 3: but that Ryan Day might leave because he's tired of

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Speaker 3: this because he doesn't want this one thing that he

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Speaker 3: can't seem to overcome to destroy him over this next

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Speaker 3: that they were that just gung ho that he's coming back,

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Speaker 3: because losing this one is critical now and now we'll

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Speaker 3: see what happens in the playoff. But they may be

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Speaker 3: on the road now, first of all, and that's a

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Speaker 3: big deal. The other thing is, like, you've run out

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Speaker 3: of things to blame here, bro, Like, was it Colin

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Speaker 3: because it doesn't look like it was Jim Harball things.

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Speaker 2: And he's lost to Sharon Moore twice. Yep, you know

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Speaker 2: Sharon Moore wins in this series than Ryan Day does.

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Speaker 2: Right day has what has two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's one and four against Michigan. I saw,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, this got to me. I have no

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Speaker 3: idea where it started, but it got to me. Uh

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. Ryan Day is the Michael Jordan of James Franklin's.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, somebody somebody said.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know where it started, but

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Speaker 3: I started like looking at it inception wise, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's pretty much right, because I mean, he does beat

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Speaker 3: everybody else in the conference, but he doesn't beat the

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Speaker 3: the same thing that happened with John Cooper. But I

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Speaker 3: understand it's not even that. I'm like, he's a good guy.

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Speaker 3: If we want to talk more about the flag planning

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Tirem Studios. It is a lovely seasonal

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the flag planning. It's unfortunately because of

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Speaker 3: do that to us?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

433
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Speaker 3: They just completely annihilated you over the course of a

434
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Speaker 3: sixty minute game. I understand it's a three point game,

435
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Speaker 3: but it may as well have been fifty. As far

436
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Speaker 3: as I was concerned, that was just a bad look.

437
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Speaker 3: In my opinion for Ohio State. I've kind of shrugged

438
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Speaker 3: my shoulders at the Michigan of it all and say, yeah,

439
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Speaker 3: you know what, you were a twenty point dog to

440
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Speaker 3: your rival. You despise them, You've heard it all week long,

441
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Speaker 3: and then you came in there and beat them. I

442
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Speaker 3: kind of understand why you planted the flag. Might be arrogant,

443
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Speaker 3: might be, might not be the most dignified thing, but

444
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Speaker 3: you earned the right to stand there with your chest

445
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Speaker 3: poked out and be obnoxious on their field.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think that that's another part of it

447
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Speaker 2: that we haven't even hit on yet. As you mentioned,

448
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: I literally don't know any of the names of their

449
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Speaker 2: skill position guys. Colston Loveland, who was by far their

450
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Speaker 2: leading receiver. Joel Kladd had the stat throughout the game

451
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Speaker 2: something like fifty one percent of their passing targets or

452
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Speaker 2: something of that nature were to Colston Loveland. During the season,

453
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Speaker 2: that guy didn't play.

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Speaker 3: No, we didn't play.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, remember we were talking about how

456
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Speaker 2: Ohio State has all those NFL wide receivers. Yeah, Will Johnson,

457
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: your all American Corner at Michigan did not play. This

458
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: was an all systems failure, all things Ohio State, and

459
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Speaker 2: it falls on Ryan Day. Tell you what I do.

460
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Speaker 2: Want to get it over the news desk because a

461
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Speaker 2: lot has happened since we've come on air. When we

462
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Speaker 2: come back, I want to talk about what we discussed

463
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Speaker 2: before the first break, which was Ryan Day his future

464
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Speaker 2: and should he be looking for an escape route if

465
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Speaker 2: Ohio State isn't going to get rid of him. We'll

466
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Speaker 2: discuss that next before we do, though, news desk, a

467
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Speaker 2: lot going on. Does this not feel like the first

468
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Speaker 2: Setdaturday in March with all the conference tournaments you're trying

469
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Speaker 2: to keep track of who gets the auto bids and

470
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Speaker 2: the at larges and all that stuff. I am loving it.

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Speaker 6: And do you recall how boring conference Championship Night had

472
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Speaker 6: gotten in college football? And I'm looking forward to maybe

473
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Speaker 6: a good weekend next weekend. But this with the twelve team, we.

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Speaker 3: Have to watch Penn State's offense.

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Speaker 2: It's so I'll just say, part of it's the imbalance

476
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Speaker 2: schedules where or imbalance conferences where it's like, oh, we

477
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Speaker 2: get to watch Michigan beat another bad Big West team,

478
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Speaker 2: a big Big ten West teams.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's what eighteen teams in one league and

480
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Speaker 6: sixteen in another and fourteen in another and they're all

481
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Speaker 6: just keeping their original names. By the way, Iowa State

482
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Speaker 6: has won tonight, they have yet to officially clinch a

483
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Speaker 6: spot in the Big twelve title game. I will get

484
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Speaker 6: to that in just a moment because BYU is still playing.

485
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Speaker 6: This is one of the few late games tonight. At

486
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Speaker 6: nineteenth ranked BYU, the Cougars are favored to win. They're

487
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Speaker 6: up fourteen to ten on Houston right now, under four

488
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Speaker 6: minutes to go in the second quarter. Iowa State one

489
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Speaker 6: it's top twenty five matchup at home against Kansas State

490
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Speaker 6: twenty nine twenty one. Sixteenth ranked Arizona State is in

491
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Speaker 6: the Big twelve title game officially now tonight, ASU one

492
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Speaker 6: in dominant fashion at rival Arizona forty nine to seven.

493
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Speaker 6: Arizona State has won five in a row, and they

494
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Speaker 6: led thirty five nothing at the half. Here these are

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Speaker 6: the Big Twelve details. Keep in mind once we get

496
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Speaker 6: to conference championship weekend that's next weekend. There are actually

497
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Speaker 6: ten conference championship games, three on Friday night, including Boise

498
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Speaker 6: State hosting UNLV in the Mountain West title game on

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Speaker 6: Fox TV the first Friday night in December the sixth,

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Speaker 6: So we're less than a week away. Yes, UNLV one

501
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Speaker 6: tonight beat Nevada thirty eight to fourteen. The rest are

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Speaker 6: next Saturday, December seventh. That includes Texas, Georgia, get to

503
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Speaker 6: that in a moment. It includes Clemson, yes, they're in

504
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Speaker 6: against SMU, and it includes as you reference, Penn State

505
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Speaker 6: against Oregon for the Big Ten title. But Arizona State,

506
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Speaker 6: we know, will start the day next Saturday in the

507
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Speaker 6: Big twelve championship game against in Arlington, Texas, against a

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Speaker 6: team to be named maybe Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately that would have been fun.

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Speaker 6: Well, it might still be Colorado. Here are the details. Oh,

511
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Speaker 6: Arizona State one today they're seven and two in conference.

512
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Speaker 6: Iowa State one Tonight, they're seven and two in conference.

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Speaker 6: Colorado won yesterday, they're seven and two in conference. If

514
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Speaker 6: BYU wins tonight, they're seven and two in conference. Those

515
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Speaker 6: four teams would tie for first, each finishing just one

516
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Speaker 6: game ahead of three others. What Iowa State needs is

517
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Speaker 6: a four way tie and they'll take the tie breakers

518
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Speaker 6: and Iowa State will go So they're rooting for BYU tonight.

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Speaker 2: So if BYU loses Colorado.

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Speaker 6: Yes, oh wow, because there won't be a four way

521
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Speaker 6: tie in that scenario. It's amazing because Colorado on their schedule,

522
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Speaker 6: they didn't play any of the other three first place teams.

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Speaker 2: What was crazy about Colorado was the way the schedule

524
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Speaker 2: set up. They played like three of the preseason toughest

525
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Speaker 2: teams to end the season, Oklahoma State, Utah and Kansas.

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Speaker 2: And I always thought the Big Twelve was kind of like,

527
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Speaker 2: Colorado will bring an audience to show off our good teams.

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Speaker 6: And they played Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, and none of the teams ended up being

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Speaker 2: Kansas State was fine by the end of the year

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Speaker 2: and Kansas ended up playing well. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: think I think they thought that was gonna be a showcase. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State's awesome. Maybe they're in contention for an animal.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe Oklahoma State is this bad though, three.

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Speaker 6: Wins a nine in conference for Oklahoma State. I'm not

536
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Speaker 6: saying they're as bad as Purdue, but you know, on paper.

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Speaker 6: As for the other news from Colorado, that loss at

538
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Speaker 6: Kansas last week is the crusher for the Buffaloes. Because

539
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Speaker 6: they'd be alone in first without that happening last week. Colorado,

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Speaker 6: remember lost at Nebraska very early in the season. But

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Speaker 6: so why are we getting to all of these minute tiebreakers.

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Speaker 6: It's because Colorado didn't play head to head against any

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Speaker 6: of the other three, so they rely on the tiebreakers

544
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Speaker 6: further down, like record against common opponents, strength of schedule.

545
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Speaker 6: In fact, the Athletics said earlier tonight tweeting out TCU

546
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Speaker 6: beat Cincinnati, so Arizona State is officially clinched to birth

547
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Speaker 6: in the Big twelve title game, and then said, no,

548
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Speaker 6: I cannot explain how those two are connected. Egg quote

549
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Speaker 6: that is correct. A TCU win against Cincinnati, which has

550
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Speaker 6: nothing to do with our current conversation, we would think,

551
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Speaker 6: is actually what clinched ASU spot in next weekend's title game.

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Speaker 2: That's TCU. Yeah, I forgot doing.

553
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Speaker 6: Something, Yes exactly. Clemson lost at home seventeen fourteen against

554
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Speaker 6: South Carolina, But guess what Clemson's in the ACC title

555
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 6: game against SMU next Saturday night. Because sixth rank Miami

556
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Speaker 6: was up twenty one to nothing at Syracuse second quarter

557
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Speaker 6: and still lost the game. Hurricanes lost forty two to

558
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Speaker 6: thirty eight. Wow, Michigan waned Ohio State thirteen to ten

559
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Speaker 6: on a short field goal in the final minute. Number

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Speaker 6: three Texas won at Texas A and M tonight seventeen

561
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Speaker 6: to seven, so the Longhorns go to the SEC championship

562
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Speaker 6: game against Georgia in Atlanta. Number one Oregon over Washington

563
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Speaker 6: forty nine twenty one, and at fourth rank Penn State

564
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Speaker 6: and Nitney Lyons forty four to seven over Maryland. Today

565
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Speaker 6: Penn State not Ohio State, going to the Big Ten

566
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Speaker 6: title game against Oregon next Saturday night. The Arizona Cardinals

567
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Speaker 6: gave running back James Connor a two year extension college hoops.

568
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Speaker 6: Number six Houston was beaten in overtime by San Diego

569
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Speaker 6: State in Vegas tonight in a tournament third place game,

570
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Speaker 6: and former Saint John's hoops coach lou Carna Seca has

571
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Speaker 6: died at the age of ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Desager. Lot

573
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Speaker 2: of ground covered there. Fox Sports Radio aeron towards JSON

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Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios, should mention.

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Speaker 3: That correct victory lap real quick. Ah yeah, before you

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Speaker 3: even go no, I just I want to take a

577
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Speaker 3: victory lap and then when I get to the end

578
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Speaker 3: of this, I want you to close line me out

579
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Speaker 3: of my shoes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, like a wrestling finish.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So when I was I was on with you

582
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Speaker 3: in dan Bayer, YEP on Thursday, and then I was

583
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Speaker 3: in with Brian No on Friday. You both asked me

584
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Speaker 3: the same question. You said in game you have your

585
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Speaker 3: eye on this weekend, and I said, keep your eye

586
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Speaker 3: on Georgia, Georgia tech O. What again for me saying

587
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Speaker 3: that to you on Thursday? I was like, there's something

588
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Speaker 3: about Georgia tech and it depending on which Georgia shows

589
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: up that could get really interesting. I couldn't have been

590
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Speaker 3: more right, of course, and I've been wrong on several

591
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Speaker 3: things this year, so it was I felt really good

592
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Speaker 3: about this right, But here's where you need to close

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Speaker 3: on me on my shoes and then you can get

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Speaker 3: to that read that I interrupted you. I didn't realize

595
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Speaker 3: that game was Friday. Oh no, I was so caught

596
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Speaker 3: up and I was so caught up in family stuff.

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Speaker 2: Please tell me that you eventually figured out.

598
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Speaker 3: I didn't watch I haven't didn't watch a second of it.

599
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Speaker 3: I didn't learn it until today when I went to

600
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Speaker 3: some websites set up for the morning on my arm

601
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Speaker 3: when of these games being played, and I first thing

602
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Speaker 3: I say is a splash screen of an eight overtime

603
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Speaker 3: game that Georgia won. And in my head at first,

604
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, so that already played, and I was right,

605
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: look at that Georgia won it, but they almost lost it. Huh.

606
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Speaker 3: But then I'm just like, but I don't even it

607
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: got played, and this was this incredible event that took place.

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Speaker 3: I missed the whole thing. Haven't even seen a highlight

609
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Speaker 3: of it, haven't seen anything about it. As far as

610
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: my world is concerned. It did not take place. So

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Speaker 3: it might've been my best prediction of the fall this year,

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Speaker 3: and I can't I don't think I can take full

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Speaker 3: credit for it because I didn't actually watch the event

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Speaker 3: or even know that it took place.

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Speaker 2: You're so good you didn't need You didn't even need

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Speaker 2: to watch the event or no right was being played.

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Speaker 2: All I'll say really quick on that game. First of all,

618
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Speaker 2: no shame in you not knowing it. And it was funny.

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Speaker 2: This was one of the conversations Dan Byer and I

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Speaker 2: had on Thanksgiving Day, love filling in with Dan. He

621
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Speaker 2: did you know, he's awesome. But you know, we were

622
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, the old you know trope about

623
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Speaker 2: the Lions shouldn't be playing on Thanksgiving Day and is

624
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Speaker 2: it time to move them off? And then we kind

625
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Speaker 2: of did it like a little gag of is it

626
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Speaker 2: time to move the Cowboys off Thanksgiving Day? All that?

627
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Speaker 2: But why I bring it up is because I said,

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Speaker 2: even when the Lions are bad, like, are there any

629
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Speaker 2: sports traditions that we can just keep and not push

630
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Speaker 2: aside for money or greed or whatever. And one of

631
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Speaker 2: the examples that I used was why isn't the Egg

632
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Speaker 2: Bowl on Thanksgiving? And so we had the Egg Bowl

633
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Speaker 2: on Black Friday. We had this Georgia Georgia Tech game

634
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Speaker 2: that's always on Saturday being played on Friday. And it's like,

635
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Speaker 2: there's no reason for you to have thought that game

636
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Speaker 2: was yesterday because of the fact that it is literally

637
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Speaker 2: never been played to my knowledge, on Black Friday. And

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Speaker 2: so it's just one of those things. By the way,

639
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: it was a wild game. I'll say this final drive

640
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: little bit of a favorable whistle potentially for Georgia. There

641
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: was a pass interference call that was sketchy at best.

642
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: There was a clear hold that did not get called

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Speaker 2: on Georgia. They end up scoring to tie it. I

644
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Speaker 2: actually felt bad Georgia Tech was I don't want to

645
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Speaker 2: say they were in control the whole game, but they

646
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Speaker 2: led for virtually the whole game. Georgia ties it up. Obviously,

647
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Speaker 2: once you get to overtime you could kind of figure

648
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Speaker 2: out what happened and Georgia Tech they did have some

649
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: opportunities in one of the many overtimes to win it.

650
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: So it was a crazy game by the end. The

651
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: right team probably won, but it was one that probably

652
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: could have and maybe should have been won by Georgia

653
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: Tech in regulation. My only other take on that was

654
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: my poor wife and her family were at my mom's house.

655
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: They could not care less about college football. My stepdad

656
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: and my mom are pretty into college football whatever, and

657
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: we're all watching it in the corner and you could

658
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: just see the interest level in them in the game.

659
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a great game. And I said

660
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: to him, I said, going in overtime, I was like, well,

661
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna go as soon as the game's over.

662
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: And then it goes to overtime, then it goes to

663
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Speaker 2: a second and a third and a fourth and they

664
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Speaker 2: could not care. I'm like, you understand, this is a

665
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: historic thing, like this doesn't happen. Could not have cared less.

666
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: So that was my experience, was like sort of wanting

667
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: it to end, but sort of not wanting it to end,

668
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: sort of wanting Georgia Tech to win just to make

669
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Speaker 2: fun of the SEC but then sort of by the

670
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Speaker 2: end being like, wow, Georgia Tech, you had thirty seven

671
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: chances in overtime and didn take advantage of them. But yeah,

672
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: it was a crazy game. And credit to you for

673
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Speaker 2: earmarking it early in the week because.

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Speaker 3: I'm marking it, and then forgetting to notice that it happened,

675
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Speaker 3: but you made me. Thank you for the defense. That's right.

676
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: I was expecting Saturday because it's always happened on Saturdays.

677
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Someday we'll get into the argument or the discussion about

678
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: whether or not we need to stop playing football the

679
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 3: way we do in overtime in college.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, so bad. I mean, yeah, we don't

681
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: need to get into that conversation because everyone agrees it's

682
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: the stupidest overtime rule ever. And we talked about it

683
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Speaker 2: a little bit last week. Auburn A and M goes

684
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: to four overtimes and Florida or Georgia does beat Georgia

685
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: Tech in eight. Tell you what, j mart we will

686
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: come back, and I do want to just finish up

687
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Speaker 2: the Ryan Day conversation. As you said, people who cover

688
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: the team don't believe there is any chance he will

689
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Speaker 2: be fired. I think one, that's a mistake, but who.

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Speaker 2: The bigger question is should he consider looking for another job?

691
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Speaker 2: And I might have one circle for him. That's next

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Rady.

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Speaker 2: hard work back there, Mary and of course producer Ian

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Speaker 2: Steve Disager. We got the full house in here today

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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what, Jamart I think at the

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Speaker 2: top of the next hour before we switch over to

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Speaker 2: the NFL. It's probably a good idea to kind of

710
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: set the playoff picture now with basically essentially every meaningful

711
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: game done. As de Segre just told us, by you,

712
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: if BYU were to win, Colorado would actually advance to

713
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: the to the Big twelve title game. So basically there's

714
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Speaker 2: one spot up for grabs in one of these conference

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Speaker 2: title games. But I bring it up because I want

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Speaker 2: to quickly talk about Ryan Day, because one, I actually

717
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: heard the same rapid reaction YouTube video that you did

718
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: from the Athletic where they basically insinuated that there's no

719
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: way Ryan Day is leaving and that he probably won't

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Speaker 2: get fired. One what stands out to me about it

721
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Speaker 2: is I understand why it seems silly, why Ryan Day

722
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Speaker 2: has a thirty seven thirty eight million dollars buy out whatever.

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Speaker 2: What I also know, Jmart is we've seen this a

724
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: million times in college sport, where there's a guy that

725
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: it's clearly not working, where he's clearly not the answer,

726
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: where the fan base has clearly turned on him, and

727
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Speaker 2: there is no getting that fan base back. And I

728
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: just think that to me, there's always it always ends

729
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: up working out the same way. The guy doesn't come back.

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Speaker 2: And the example I was gonna use earlier today kind

731
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: of felt like John Caliperry losing to Oakland in the

732
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Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament, where just like this guy can't come back,

733
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: like it was so toxic. And I think Ryan data

734
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 2: his credit has been better in the regular season, attack

735
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Speaker 2: been better in the postseason. We know a missfield goal

736
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: away from playing for a championship against TCU, but that

737
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: missed field goal is kind of a metaphor for like

738
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Speaker 2: his entire tenure, like you're this close, but in the

739
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: games that matter, you don't come through. Uh ohen four.

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Speaker 2: In your last four against Michigan, you lose to Georgia,

741
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Speaker 2: and the College Football Playoff a few years ago, you

742
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: lose to whatever and soaps Clemson. When you lose to Clems,

743
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Speaker 2: it's just you go on and on down the leg. Yeah, well,

744
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Speaker 2: I think I think they had like a seventeen to

745
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: nothing lead against Clemson in that game. So I bring

746
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Speaker 2: it up because one, I don't believe that there's a

747
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Speaker 2: zero possibility that he gets fired.

748
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Speaker 3: I don't either, But two, so we're in.

749
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Speaker 2: Agreement on that. I think he might try to look

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Speaker 2: out the side door. And I don't, you know, I

751
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: don't know if he's a legitimate candidate for like NFL

752
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: head coaching jobs, but is it Is he a candidate

753
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Speaker 2: for any of them? There's gonna be a lot open,

754
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: But I was thinking this this might sound crazy. Earlier

755
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: today Gus Melson, which was kind of leaves UCF as

756
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: the head coach to go take the Florida State offensive

757
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: coordinator job. Obviously just want it out of that job.

758
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Like if I'm Ryan Day, I probably at least make

759
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: a phone call to UCF like Big twelve job power conference,

760
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: rich recruiting base. By the way, I beat all the

761
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: teams I'm supposed to. I don't know. I just you

762
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: UF is kind of irrelevant in this conversation. I just

763
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: don't believe that there's zero percent chance that he could

764
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: get fired. And I think even if he doesn't get fired,

765
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: it would probably be smart for him at this point

766
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Speaker 2: to start seeing if there was anything else out there

767
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: that kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State is just a different animal, right it is

769
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Speaker 3: when you get to this point, it really depends on

770
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Speaker 3: what the people with money at that university and what

771
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: the general consensus is because it's so important to everything

772
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Speaker 3: that happens in the state of Ohio. The most powerful

773
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Speaker 3: person in the state of Ohio now that jd Vance

774
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: is going to be the vice president, is the head

775
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: coach of Ohio State football is more important to the Browns,

776
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: more important to the Bengals. That's a guy that is

777
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: kind of the figurehead for the whole state. And if

778
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: the sea comes after him, I don't know if zero

779
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: percent to me is just do you know him? Or

780
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: are you too close to him? You might be a

781
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: really nice guy, but I just don't buy that.

782
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Just don't buy it. Ryan Day, We're gonna continue this coverage.

783
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State lose again to Michigan, We're gonna come back,

784
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: look at the playoff picture. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: be in our one. Oh buddy, did we talk a

792
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Speaker 2: lot about the situation at Ohio State. What could possibly

793
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: happen with Ryan Day's future? Is he out? And just

794
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: the general malaise around that program, just with everything going

795
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Speaker 2: on after a fourth straight loss to Michigan Jmart. Before

796
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: we just turn what I want to do. I want

797
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: to spend a few minutes kind of talking about the

798
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Speaker 2: playoff picture as it stands. Any last thoughts on Ryan Day,

799
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: obviously understanding that we have our three to get back

800
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 3: Just it's a tough night for him. There's really not

802
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: anything else to add that we didn't cover in the

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00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: first hour. Just this is the one you can't lose,

804
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: and it's the one you definitely can't get in the

805
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: habit of losing. And we're now at a point where

806
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Speaker 3: are we going to keep on doing the exact same

807
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: thing or are we going to do something else. I

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00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: understand Ryan Day is not out there, but his team

809
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: is a reflection of him, and that reflection right now

810
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: is one that's a little bit too soft against Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and that's just not something that they're going to be

812
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: able to sustain long term. And by them, I mean

813
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: they're fans, the deep pockets, all the people in the state,

814
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: like they're not going to tolerate this. Like losing, you

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00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: lost the others in hardball leaves all right, now it's

816
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: ours again. Michigan's barely five hundred, they're six and five,

817
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: they have no offense to speak of, and then they

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00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 3: beat you anyway on your home field. For by the way,

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00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: this is the Is this the third time or the

820
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: fourth time in a row that they've lost to Michigan

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Speaker 3: when they were the number two team in the country.

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Speaker 3: M So think about that as well. Think about where

823
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: they are coming in and what they've done. But if

824
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: you don't win this game, that's the only thing nobody's

825
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: gonna remember anything else that Ohio State did this year.

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00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 3: The two games that you remember most well, I guess

827
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Speaker 3: you might remember Indiana a little bit, but this loss

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Speaker 3: is number one, and then you went to Oregon and lost.

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Speaker 3: Those are the two games that you think about. Because

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00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: of Ohio State, you don't worry about the wins. You

831
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Speaker 3: remember the.

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Speaker 2: Losses well, and listen, I don't want to make this

833
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Speaker 2: another Ohio State segment, because we spent an hour talking

834
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: about that, so I think that's yeah, the last thing

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: Those two losses whalle completely different, aren't they a metaphor

838
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Speaker 2: for Ryan Day? The Oregon loss? You are this close,

839
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Speaker 2: there's the questionable pass interference call, which I still think

840
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: was probably the right call, but it obviously goes against you.

841
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: And then Will Howard can't get down in time to

842
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: run a final play. And then of course today where

843
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: there's just so many chances and you can't take of it.

844
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: That's the Ryan Day era. Close in the big games,

845
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: but they just don't get over the hump. And so

846
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: with it. It is worth noting that Ohio State, I

847
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: still think is very much in the playoff picture. And

848
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: so what I want to do now, I want to

849
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Speaker 2: reset it. We know a couple things. You know what, Mary,

850
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: I didn't even tell you this. Give us a little

851
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: football music, get us in the football mood. I want

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00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: to set what I believe is the playoff picture so far.

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00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: So first of all of the four power conferences, three

854
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: of the title games are set. We will have a

855
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: rematch Georgia versus Texas in the SEC Championship game. We

856
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: will have Oregon versus Penn State in the Big Ten

857
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: Championship game. We will also have we also have in

858
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Speaker 2: the ACC Championship game. About this SMU versus Clemson. Clemson

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00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: takes a third loss today against South Carolina. It was

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Speaker 2: an out of conference game, so it does not end

861
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: up hurting their ACC record, and with Miami losing for

862
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: a second time this month, Miami is out of the

863
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: ACC Championship game. So we will get Miami in SMU

864
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: or Clemson in SMU for the ACC title. By the way,

865
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: and I know you got some Clemson thoughts, so I

866
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: want to know. Well, I'm gonna tell you about this Miam, Miamiami,

867
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: That's what I meant.

868
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: Yes, Lincoln Riley thinks Miami needs a defense like what

869
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: in the world, like cam Wood finally just he just

870
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: ran out of magic. It's not that he's not great

871
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: and he hasn't done great things for them all year.

872
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: They couldn't. I mean, you can beat them even if

873
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: they score fifty because they can't stop you. Like, I'm

874
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: not surprised at all to see this go this way

875
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: for them down a stretch because they were living so

876
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: dangerously earlier in the year. But they're frauds, man, Like

877
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: I do, I don't, I mean, I don't think there's

878
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 3: any other way to look at it. They probably should

879
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: have lost a Virginia Tech. They probably should have lost

880
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: at least there was one cast the game that ended

881
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: after cal Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they should have lost both

882
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: of their frauds. They are complete and total frauds because

883
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 3: they only play one half of the game. They they

884
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: have no defense. I don't even I don't even know

885
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 3: why they're putting guys out there to play defense because

886
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: it is an abject disaster.

887
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't been as vocal about money spent in

888
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: nil as Ohio State. But I mean cam Ward had

889
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: literally declared for the NFL draft and then announced he

890
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: was coming back to college to play at Miami. Like

891
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: that kid didn't come back to get a you know,

892
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: a sociology degree. He came back because he was getting money.

893
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: And it's listen, to his credit, it's obviously helped his

894
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: draft stock whatever. I'm not saying it hasn't. But yeah,

895
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: a complete meltdown for Miami. So j Mart I was

896
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: thinking about this. I actually think the playoff is mostly

897
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: set going into next week. Let's talk this out here, Okay,

898
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: So we have the five conference champions, so that would

899
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 2: be the SEC champ, the ACC champ, the Big ten champ,

900
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: the Big twelve champ, and then I think the Mountain

901
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: West is probably going to get their team in. So

902
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: that's five teams right there. Let me ask you this.

903
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 2: I believe that the loser of the SEC championship game

904
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: is in Texas is coming in at eleven and one

905
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: Georgia at ten and two. Do you believe that if

906
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: Georgia were to lose this game there would be any

907
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: argument to keep them out of the college football I mean,

908
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: they're being an argument. Do you believe they would actually

909
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: get left out?

910
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: No? I don't. I think it's a three big league.

911
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: I think at this point, based on some of the

912
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: other things that we have seen and may still see

913
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: before long, I do think it will be taken into

914
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: consideration that they're playing the extra game. They also already

915
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: beat this team earlier in the year. I don't know

916
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: what that necessarily means, but at this point, I think

917
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: Georgia is in now. If they had lost uh, on

918
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: Friday night. Maybe you have a different argument, or you

919
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: definitely have a different argument, but that's not the case here.

920
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: They did win that game, even if it was kind

921
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 3: of wild and weird and not football for five six

922
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: overtimes worth or whatever like that. I just I don't

923
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: see a universe where Georgia or Texas is not part

924
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 3: of this twelve considering how everything else has shaken out.

925
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: Here is my prediction for a discourse that you and

926
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: I will be forced to talk about next week in

927
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: this timeslot. It will be I think Texas beats Georgia

928
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: in the SEC Championship game because Georgia hasn't played two

929
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: great games in a row all year, and the conversation

930
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: will be should either Alabama or ole Miss, who also

931
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: has three losses, get in over Georgia. And I think

932
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: it will be a conversation. But I think the committee

933
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: has basically said we are not going to punish teams

934
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: for having to play an extra game, So I think

935
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: it will be a discourse that we have to address. Obviously,

936
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: we can't say anything for certain, but I can't see

937
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: the scenario where the committee punishes Georgia for playing the

938
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: extra game against by the way, what will be the

939
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: number two team in the country at that point if

940
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: they were to lose it. But I could see that

941
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: being a discourse Alabama fans and Ole miss fans getting

942
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: vocal on social media saying, we beat this team, why

943
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: would they get in ahead of us? And why they

944
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: would get in was because they played the extra game.

945
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: Can you see that?

946
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: Man? I think that's right. Yeah, I can understand that. Yeah,

947
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: we probably are going to have that discourse. Ole Missus

948
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: losses just aren't impressive. The teams they lost to. Those

949
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: are the ones you can't lose to. And I think, honestly,

950
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: you look at Alabama, they lost to Vanderbilt, I think

951
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: that's probably enough as well. But between the three of them,

952
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: one of them is having to play an extra game

953
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: because they qualified for the SEC Championship and beat Tennessee,

954
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: who is a playoff team. So you look at that,

955
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: I think there's enough that I don't think that. I

956
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 3: think Georgia is the third one. I don't think Alabama

957
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: will miss don't. I don't think that's gonna end up

958
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: being that big a story, but yeah, it'll probably create

959
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: a fun segment for US next week.

960
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So SEC runner up is in Big six, Yeah,

961
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 2: Big ten, Oregon, Penn State. Even if Penn State loses,

962
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: they would be eleven and two. Their only losses against

963
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Oregon. Penn State is obviously in, right

964
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: if they lose that game, you think, so okay? Yes,

965
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: So that's now seven teams, the five automatic bids, plus

966
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: the Big ten runner up, the SEC runner up. You

967
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: have said Tennessee you believe is in at ten and two.

968
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: I believe they are in as well. Do you have

969
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: anything else to add there?

970
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: No, If they had lost to Vanderbilt, they would have

971
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: been out. But I think that's what it was. I

972
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: think that was a de facto win and you're in.

973
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: And it started out rough for them and then they

974
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: just turned on. And I actually think they may host

975
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: a playoff game. I think at least it's we'll see

976
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: how the how the other things shack out, but I

977
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: think they have an op ortunity to host one in Knoxville,

978
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: and I don't know what they will be, but I

979
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: definitely think when you look at it, the Arkansas loss

980
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: was bad, but I mean, who else are you going

981
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: to put in over them that has a better case?

982
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: I think things that have helped them. Miami losing and

983
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: things like that. The ACC probably being a one bid

984
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: league now or very likely being a one bid league.

985
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 3: I think that helps them as well. I said a three. Yeah,

986
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: I just I think Tennessee is in. I don't think

987
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: they I think they've proven enough. I think they'll be

988
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: about an eight.

989
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, So that is now eight teams in. We

990
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: have the five automatic bids, the SEC runner up either

991
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: Georgia or Texas, the Big ten runner up either Penn

992
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: State or Oregon. We add Tennessee to the mix. Notre

993
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Dame has to be in at eleven and.

994
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: One right for sure.

995
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so that that is now nine teams. Let me

996
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: ask you this the one that caused a thousand Helena Troy.

997
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: You know she had the face that launches out a

998
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: thousand ships. Kurt Signetti in Indiana launched a thousand takes

999
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. But they finish eleven and one.

1000
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know that this really matters.

1001
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: That Michigan win looks a tiny bit more impressive than

1002
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: it did as your best win three weeks ago. But

1003
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: an eleven and one Indiana I think is in.

1004
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: Do you agree? Yes? I think that both Clemson losing,

1005
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: Miami losing, just some of the other things that we've seen.

1006
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: I think that Indiana is the only thing you can

1007
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: knock Indiana for is not beating Ohio State. That's a

1008
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: pretty tall order when you consider everything else. Like I

1009
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: just like we talked about Clemson being in their schedule

1010
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: was pathetic, and they lost on their home field to

1011
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: South Carolina and Leonora's Cellars, then they're gonna go play

1012
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: in this championship game. But I just look at them like, no,

1013
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: you haven't done enough like that. I think that Indiana

1014
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: benefits for some other things. But truthfully, I'm glad they're

1015
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: in because a one loss team from the Big Ten

1016
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: really should be, you would think. And so I think

1017
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: they're safe now. Yeah.

1018
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: And the only thing I'll say quickly on Indiana, if

1019
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: the argument is they have no great wins, the counter

1020
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: argument is, not only do they have no bad losses,

1021
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: they basically destroyed everybody. And so if you're comparing Ole

1022
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: miss has a great win against Georgia, they also have

1023
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: a terrible loss to They have a terrible loss to Kentucky,

1024
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: and so to me, Indiana is in as well. So

1025
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: that gives us now ten teams. We have the SEC champ,

1026
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: the five Conference champs, the SEC and Big Ten runners

1027
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: up is seven, Tennessee is eight, Notre Dame is nine,

1028
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: Indiana's ten, A ten to two Ohio State that is

1029
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: going to have two top ten wins, Penn State in Indiana. Well,

1030
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: we could talk about whatever today, but I assume that

1031
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: you assume that Indiana or that Ohio State is in

1032
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: as well, right, correct? Yeah? I think they are too.

1033
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I don't

1034
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: think there's the universe where they're not in.

1035
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: Yes, and I agree with that. I think you mentioned

1036
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: it earlier. Probably at this point on the outside looking

1037
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: in of hosting a playoff game, you'd think that a

1038
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 2: lot of schools would have priority over that. But Ohio

1039
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: State is at number eleven. This is where it gets interesting,

1040
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: j Martin. That to me, unless I'm missing something super egregious,

1041
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: is the end of where you can definitively draw the

1042
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: line and say these teams are in. I think at

1043
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: that point, if you're just looking at last week's rankings,

1044
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: you know that's where if SMU loses the ACC Championship game,

1045
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: could they be in and then after that, j Mart,

1046
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: I'll say it. I mocked the idea of a three

1047
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: loss SEC team getting in. I don't think with the

1048
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: way my with Miami losing today. I mean, listen, is

1049
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: Miami a factor at ten and two with two losses

1050
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: to you know, what's Miami's best win? Probably a seven

1051
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: and five Florida team. So I that's the spot, the

1052
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: twelfth spot, which obviously might not necessarily be the twelve

1053
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: seed depending on how things breakout. That's where it gets interesting.

1054
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: I unless I'm missing somebody, I think there's a scenario

1055
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: where I think there's a scenario where that three loss

1056
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: SEC team gets in, maybe SMU if they lose the

1057
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: ACC Championship game. Am I miss First of all, am

1058
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: I missing anybody? And then if not, do.

1059
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: We talk about Arizona State?

1060
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, Arizona State is in the Big twelve Championship game,

1061
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: So if they were to lose the Big twelve Championship

1062
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: game to not get the auto bid, they'd be ten

1063
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 2: and three. They'd have a win over BYU, which looks

1064
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: like a top twenty five win. I don't know that

1065
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: they'd have any other great wins outside of that, though.

1066
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think they'd have to win that game,

1067
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: but I think that they'll they'll be a factor. You

1068
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: beat Clemson, South Carolina's back in the argument, yep. So

1069
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean that that last minute and a half when

1070
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 3: they came back and won that game at Death Valley.

1071
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: That's a team that is within a couple of just

1072
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: rough finishes from having a reddible season and us not

1073
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: even having a discussion about them because they're obviously in.

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00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: But I kind of look at them and think that

1075
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 3: they're I think there's a good chance they're going to

1076
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: be in the top twelve on Tuesday when they put

1077
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: out the rankings. We'll see what all changes when you

1078
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 3: get to the conference championship games and who gets bumped out,

1079
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: and you know all of those things. But I think

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00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: that I think that South Carolina is likely to be

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 3: you know, that number eleven, that number twelve team come Tuesday.

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00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: It'd be so fascinating. They are coming into next week

1083
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: where they will be off there not in a conference

1084
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: championship game. They're on a six game win streak. Their

1085
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: losses to Ole Miss, Alabama and LSU so three losses

1086
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: to ranked teams, two of them by a field goal

1087
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: or less. One of them where they're starting quarterback Lenora

1088
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: Sellers got hurt against LSU. Yeah, like I said, I

1089
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: mocked the idea of a three loss SEC team getting in.

1090
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: I would have no issue if if if South Carolina

1091
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: was that eleven seed based on again beating Clemson head

1092
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: to head. To your point, that's a top twenty win.

1093
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: Miami losing things like that where it would get interesting.

1094
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: Of course, Lane Kiffin, who very publicly this week was

1095
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: not afraid to tell us how awesome the SEC is

1096
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: and how terrible everybody else is. Ole Miss has a

1097
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: head to head win over South Carolina. Alabama has a

1098
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: head to head win over South Carolina. So I'm not

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00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: saying you're wrong. I'm just saying these are going to

1100
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: be the arguments because I think there's not an obvious

1101
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: team for that final at large bid. I think South

1102
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: Carolina has as good of an argument as anybody, but

1103
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 2: there are also holes on their resume as well, namely

1104
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: head to head wins with two tier headhead losses with

1105
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: two teams that are probably going to probably going to

1106
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: be in the mix there.

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00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 3: I agree, I mean, I just I think it's interesting

1108
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: that they're in this discussion because the three loss teams

1109
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 3: that we were potentially talking about in the SEC All

1110
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: of a sudden, out of nowhere, he comes South Carolina,

1111
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: and they might have the most compelling case. At the

1112
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: very least. I wanted to mention in them because I

1113
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 3: think they're gonna be the talk, even though you're gonna

1114
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: hear campaigning for some of those more blue bloody types.

1115
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: I think the South Carolina deserves to be talked about

1116
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: now because they are going to be discussed in that room.

1117
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that, and I do again, I

1118
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: do think they will likely be in the top twelve

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00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: come Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough. By the way, let's see here, what is

1121
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: the name here? I want to give this guy credit.

1122
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: Preller Forever says Torres and Martin. You're forgetting about Boise State.

1123
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: Why don't think well, I thought we mentioned boys.

1124
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's five auto bids, and right now Boise State

1125
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: is in position to get one of them. I'm looking

1126
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: at the schedule right now, I don't really see a

1127
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: pathway where if they don't win the Mountain West Tournament

1128
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: they'll face UNLV for a second time. UNLV is currently

1129
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: ranked in the top twenty five. They do have a

1130
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: win over them earlier in the season. I listen to

1131
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: be a cool story, but I don't really see the

1132
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: pathway for Boise to get an a large bid if

1133
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: if they if.

1134
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: They win, they'll probably be the four right right now?

1135
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I think they're ahead of They're

1136
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: ahead of everybody in the Big Twelve. Now, whoever plays

1137
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve championship game will get another head

1138
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: to head win over a top twenty five team because

1139
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: all four of those teams are in. But yeah, I

1140
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: would think Boise probably would maybe get that that last

1141
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: at large spot. Now, i'd or that that last first

1142
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: round by now not positive, you know, committee obviously, bran bias,

1143
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: all that stuff, But yeah, I think that's the playoff picture.

1144
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: We mentioned it a minute ago. But the five conference champs,

1145
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: which will almost certainly be the SEC, the Big Ten,

1146
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: the ACC, the Big Twelve in the Mountain West, the

1147
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: SEC and Big Ten championship game losers should get in

1148
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: is at large. That would either be Oregon Penn State

1149
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: or uh that would be Oregon Penn State or Texas Georgia.

1150
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame gets in a large bid. I

1151
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: think Tennessee gets in that large bit. I think Indiana

1152
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: gets in that large bit. I think Ohio State gets

1153
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: in that large bid. That twelfth spot is what is

1154
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: up for grabs. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting

1155
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,760
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1156
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,360
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1157
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1158
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1159
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1160
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1162
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1163
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1164
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: we will finally switch gears to the NFL. Matty eberfluses out.

1165
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: But is there any reason I think the Bears will

1166
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: actually get his replacement?

1167
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: Right?

1168
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

1169
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1170
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot com studios. That is Mary Mack on

1171
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: the ones and twos a lot of Christmas music.

1172
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Speaker 3: Awesweird?

1173
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: What's that?

1174
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: I asked my daughter. We went and saw Sanna the

1175
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: day before Thanksgiving, took the pictures, did the whole thing.

1176
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: Hers looks like a hostage photo. It's pretty funny, sure,

1177
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: but anyway, she told Santa she wanted a hippopotamus, a

1178
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 3: purple hippopota whoa for Christmas song before in her life,

1179
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: She's never heard this song.

1180
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: You have to play for her. Sure, she's not listening

1181
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio when you're not paying attention.

1182
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: Let's just say I spoke to Santa. Oh okay, I

1183
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: think we can get this taken care of.

1184
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: That's good.

1185
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: But at first I was just like a purple hippopotamus.

1186
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: She doesn't want a real one, right, like when a

1187
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: kid asked for a pony or a puppy.

1188
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: You're dangerous, very very dangerous.

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Speaker 7: I have a purple hippopotamus, do you I'm being so serious.

1190
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 7: I do a real one, well, not real stuffed animals.

1191
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 7: Be like, how big is the tank you got in

1192
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 7: your house? I know you were living like that?

1193
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 3: Nah? Seriously, Like I talked to Santa, I think we

1194
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: can get it taken care of. But when she said purple.

1195
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: I was just like, okay, and then so I googled

1196
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: for Santa just to see, you know, could I help

1197
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: him out because it seemed kind of like an odd request.

1198
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: Turns out not odd at all. It turns out there

1199
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Speaker 3: are a plethora of hippopotamus.

1200
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: Hippopotay, hippopota. I think it's hippopotami.

1201
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: Hippopotami is probably more right. Yeah, even though I kind

1202
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: of think hippopotamus is is better. Uh, there are a

1203
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: lot of them. I think it's just I was able

1204
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 3: to send Santa a couple of selections. I think if

1205
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: you can get the l's to handle, one of these

1206
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: will probably be in good shape. I was a little

1207
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 3: afraid that Santa might not be able to pull this

1208
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: one off, but I think maybe he's gonna be. Okay.

1209
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's fantastic. It's also nice to know that your

1210
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: your daughter's listening to our show in our intro music.

1211
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: So all right, Fox Sports, Rady, I'll tell you what.

1212
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, Ryan Day should be fired.

1213
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: By the way, whoa coming in hot? Little Martin girl?

1214
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll tell you what knowho else is

1215
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: about to come in hot? Our Christmas gift to America,

1216
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: Steve Disager, what's trending? My friend.

1217
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 6: Blindsided by the hippopotamus request to Santa, doubly blindsided by

1218
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 6: the Ryan Day reference that she had to Santa.

1219
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: Yes, she's wise beyond her years.

1220
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: I know you're in albent. What if she's just a

1221
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: closet Ohio State fan and this is all she wants.

1222
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: She's like, guys, gotta go guys. Kataka.

1223
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 6: By the way, the dictionaries plural do say that either

1224
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 6: for the plural for hippopotamus is correct.

1225
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Which is what hippopot may or hippopotamuses.

1226
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 6: Oh yes, exactly good, because I think what the song says.

1227
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 6: But either is okay. You can also just say hippos Hey,

1228
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 6: how about that true hungry hungry. She's gonna ask for

1229
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 6: that at one of these Christmases too. Yeah, let's get

1230
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 6: to the Big twelve championship game for next week in

1231
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 6: shall we? Because Iowa State is almost there, but BYU

1232
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 6: is still on the field mid third quarter leading at

1233
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 6: home twenty one ten over Houston. As long as there's

1234
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 6: no upset in this, Iowa State gets in. They are

1235
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 6: BYU fans for the moment. The only way Colorado gets

1236
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 6: into the Big Twelve title game is if BU gets

1237
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 6: upset tonight, why would Iowa State get in? Because if

1238
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 6: BYU continues for a victory, it would finish a four

1239
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 6: way tie. Two of those four would get in, those

1240
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 6: two being Iowa State and Arizona State, which is officially

1241
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 6: already in the Big Twelve Championship next weekend. ASU won

1242
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 6: at Arizona forty nine to seven. Also among the late games,

1243
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 6: Air Force leads in the third quarter at San Diego

1244
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 6: State twenty four to fourteen and late second quarter at Hawaii.

1245
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 6: The home team's up on New Mexico fourteen to nine.

1246
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 6: Florida one at Florida State tonight thirty one eleven, and yes,

1247
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 6: there was some flag planting there as well. Florida State

1248
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 6: finishes two and ten. North Carolina State won at North

1249
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 6: Carolina thirty five thirty. Yes, there was some flag planting

1250
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 6: at the end there as well, thirty two points combined

1251
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter of this one. NC State wins

1252
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 6: on the road. Also in the ACC, Boston College beat Pittsburgh.

1253
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 6: Remember when pitt was having such a great Yeah, they

1254
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 6: finished three and five in the acies.

1255
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: They were what seven and zero at one point?

1256
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 6: I believe they were, and so add up the five

1257
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 6: conference losses to finish the season. They finish at you

1258
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 6: guessed seven and five overall. Duke won at wake Forest,

1259
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 6: Louisville dominated at Kentucky. I'm glad you mentioned that Georgia

1260
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 6: Georgia Tech game last night, not an ACC conference game,

1261
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 6: but I'll just throw it in here while we're talking

1262
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 6: the conference.

1263
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: How did Georgia.

1264
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 6: Tech not win the game? It was unbelievable, my goodness.

1265
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 6: In I lost count eight overtimes forty four to forty two.

1266
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 6: Georgia was the final. We had a double overtime game

1267
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 6: late tonight. Marshall wins thirty five thirty three at James Madison.

1268
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 6: Marshall is in the Sun Belt Championship game next Saturday

1269
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 6: night against Louisiana, which is seven and one in Sun

1270
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 6: Belt play as well, after winning at ul Monroe. Southern

1271
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 6: Miss meanwhile finished one and eleven this year, winless in

1272
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 6: the Sun Belt, lost fifty two to twenty at Troy.

1273
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 6: Miami's not in the ACC title game. Six ranked her

1274
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 6: Riccaanes blew an early twenty one nothing lead, lost at

1275
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 6: Syracuse forty two to thirty eight. Clemson against SMU next

1276
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 6: Saturday night instead. Even though Clemson lost at home seventeen

1277
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 6: fourteen to South Carolina, Texas will be in the SEC

1278
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 6: title game in Atlanta against Georgia next Saturday. Longhorns one

1279
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 6: at A and M seventeen to seven. Michigan won at

1280
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 6: number two Ohio State thirteen to ten. Penn State won

1281
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 6: easily against Maryland, so it's Penn State in the Big

1282
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 6: Ten championship game next Saturday night against number one Oregon,

1283
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 6: which beat Washington forty nine to twenty one. This evening,

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Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals gave running back James Connor a two

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 6: year extension. Washington running back Austin Eckler was placed on

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01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 6: injured reserve with a concussion. Chargers running back JK. Dobbins

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Speaker 6: is on IR with a knee injury. Jets tackle Tyron

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01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 6: Smith went on IR. Jacksonville quarterback Trevor Lawrence plans to

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Speaker 6: play Sunday against Houston. He's missed two games with a

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Speaker 6: sprain shoulder. Buffalo activated linebacker Matt Mulanoe. He's been out

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 6: over a year. Bill's tight end Dalton Kincaid will be

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 6: out again Sunday night with a bad knee. Temperature about

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01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 6: thirty degrees for that one chance of snow. I don't

1294
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 6: know if you've seen the video of how the stadium

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 6: looks today. They've been asking for fans to help them

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Speaker 6: clean out the snow before the Bills play tomorrow night.

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Speaker 6: San Francisco quarterback Brock Perty is expected to play at

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Speaker 6: Buffalo after missing a game with a sore shoulder, but

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Speaker 6: still out for the Niners tackle Trent Williams and defensive

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01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 6: end Nick Bosa. That will make a difference. Colts wide

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Speaker 6: receiver Josh Downs with a bad shoulder out for Sunday

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 6: at New England, and Monday night it's Cleveland at Denver

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01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 6: for the Browns. Wide receiver Cedric Tillman out still in

1304
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 6: concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday or towards Jayson

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01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from ntireck dot com studios to Saga.

1308
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: Will be back in just one moment with his extended update,

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: which he does every week around twelve forty five Eastern time.

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: Do you want to switch gears though, Jamart after about

1311
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: an hour and a half of college football, and we

1312
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: will get back to college football at the time. For

1313
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: the next hour, Uh, I just want to talk a

1314
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: little bit about the big news of the week in

1315
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: the NFL. You mentioned that I filled in with Dan

1316
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: Byron Thanksgiving Day you joined us. It was moments after

1317
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: the debacle in Chicago. But it's also worth noting you

1318
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: filled in, uh for what two pros on on Thanksgiving

1319
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: Day morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Friday morning?

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01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: Friday morning, Okay, And so that didn't.

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: Eberflus watch well every break coming back, I said, Eberflus

1323
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: is still hired. I told I told Brian No. I

1324
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Bee, he might lose this job before

1325
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: we get off the air. He didn't. He survived an

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: extra two hours. He did.

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Speaker 2: He do his press conference before you got off air,

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01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: where he said.

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Speaker 3: The press conference happened right after we got off air,

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: where he said he was safe.

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, that that is first of all, the most

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01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears thing ever, letting him go to the podium

1333
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: and then firing him after he went to the podium

1334
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: and said that he believed that he was safe.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting. Dan Byer and I were actually in

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: the day after uh Shane Waldron got fired and we

1338
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: had a guest named John Middlecoff, who brought up a

1339
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: great point and said, I've worked in NFL front offices,

1340
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: and he said, if you're gonna make that movie, you

1341
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: do it's Sunday into Monday, because obviously then you start

1342
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: game planning for the week. They didn't fire Shane Waldron

1343
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: till Tuesday, so that was obviously a little bit weird. Then,

1344
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 2: of course Matt Eberflus does the press conference and then

1345
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: gets fired shortly thereafter. Uh J, Mart, I'll say this,

1346
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: You know, I'm only a little bit surprised from the

1347
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: perspective that, you know, one, the Bears have never fired

1348
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: a coach in season, but two after you already fired

1349
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. It's like just kind of running out

1350
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 2: of bodies in that building. So I'm a little surprised

1351
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 2: that the move was made. I don't think it was

1352
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: the wrong decision. I think it was a move that

1353
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: probably should have been made last offseason. It wasn't. But

1354
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus is gone. One want your just thoughts on

1355
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 2: just you know, the news itself. But then two, there's

1356
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: something Dan and I talked about on Thursday before the

1357
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: news even became official, which is given their history. Do

1358
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: you actually have any confidence at all that the Bears

1359
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: will figure out a way to actually get the right

1360
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: coach in, Because I think it's good that they got

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: rid of Eberflus a year after they should have, But

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Speaker 2: I just have no confidence that they're actually going to

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: get in the right guy to replace him.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't either. I mean, the ownership's been terrible

1365
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: for a long time. Ryan Poles will be out the

1366
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,839
Speaker 3: door next They don't need to let him make this decision.

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 3: Eber Flus being backed this year was not something that

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: any of us thought was a good choice when they

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: made it, and they did it, And so I told

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Speaker 3: Brian know this Friday, the biggest issue is not only

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: did you squander you know, a year of Caleb Williams's career,

1372
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 3: you also squandered a year of his rookie contract, and

1373
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 3: that is critically important in this day and age to

1374
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 3: where you can really build around him. You may have

1375
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 3: i'm his growth, maybe even set him back a little bit.

1376
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 3: All of it was just it was terrible. I think

1377
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: that to the point about like it being a little

1378
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 3: bit surprising after the way he reacted and his comments. Yes,

1379
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 3: I said this to no on Friday morning. I said,

1380
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: it's almost as if Kevin Warren and the mccaskeys like

1381
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: sat him down, because they talked to him before he

1382
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 3: went into this press conference, and they let him go

1383
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 3: talk to the media and they fired him two hours later.

1384
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: It's almost like they sat him down right after the

1385
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 3: game on Thursday and said, hey, listen, we're gonna fire you. Okay,

1386
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: you're done. We don't want you to get sympathy. So

1387
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: whatever it is that you can say to just make

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01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 3: it so that no one in their right mind would

1389
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: think you deserve to keep this job. Make it easy

1390
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 3: on us, Make it easy on you. Just go out

1391
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: and sound so arrogant and naive and sad that there's

1392
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,839
Speaker 3: no other choice. Just make it, make this thing easy.

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 3: He could not have scripted a worse way to react

1394
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: to this, Like if he had come out there and said,

1395
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: you know what I am costing this football team right now.

1396
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 3: I should have known better. I should have called the

1397
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: timeouts help Caleb in this situation, and I did not

1398
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 3: do it. My team played good enough to win this

1399
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 3: football game today and I cost him this. Maybe you

1400
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: get sympathy, maybe you even get another week or two.

1401
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe he was already a dead man walking.

1402
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: I think he was. But at the same time, I

1403
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 3: don't know that it goes this way. But you come

1404
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: out there and you essentially throw your team under the bus,

1405
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: and then you double down and say that you know

1406
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 3: you had everything set up right. Was one of the

1407
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: most tone deaf, ignorant things that you possibly could have

1408
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: said in that moment, because it's like, we had you know,

1409
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: here's what we wanted to do, and I really like it.

1410
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 3: We just need to execute it better. It's like, okay,

1411
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: so he's not calling the timeout. He's not calling the timeout.

1412
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,839
Speaker 3: Caleb's not snapping the ball, he's not snapping and instead

1413
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: of just calling the time out to help your quarterback,

1414
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: you just stood there as if it was illegal for

1415
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 3: you to do it, like you had to call it

1416
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: in ahead of time and say here's our play call,

1417
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 3: and then it didn't work. Well, I guess we're just

1418
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: gonna have to lose. I'm not gonna be able to

1419
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 3: call it like that. I was baffled by it. In

1420
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: a moment. You were baffled by it. Dam Buyer was

1421
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: baffled by it. Tim Patrick, that's a Lyon's wide receiver

1422
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 3: was baffled by it. In your interview with him right

1423
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: before you came to me, we were all baffled by it.

1424
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: And then Eberflus afterwards it was just like oh, man,

1425
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 3: Like listening to him, it's like, all right, yeah, you

1426
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 3: got to go, man, And it's almost like, you know,

1427
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 3: you got to go, like you're just trying to make

1428
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: it easier, you're trying to get fired or something like.

1429
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: This was insane. And I don't know if I made

1430
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: this point to you or I made it to know

1431
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 3: on Friday, but I said, notice, this kind of stuff

1432
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 3: doesn't happen to the Chiefs. What goes the other way

1433
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,839
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs or the Steelers for years, or certainly

1434
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: the Patriots during their dynasty. And everybody wants to say, oh,

1435
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 3: they get so lucky. Listen, teams that are put in

1436
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: positions to succeed tend to have breaks together their way.

1437
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: They just do. Like teams that have good organization, good coaching,

1438
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 3: make good decisions, stay within themselves, and handle the details properly.

1439
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: Those are the people that succeed me. I was terrible

1440
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: in math. My wife was excellent in it. So why

1441
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: she's a doctor and I'm talking to you, and you

1442
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 3: think about it all. My parents used to just beat

1443
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: me over the head with this. I would come home

1444
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: with like a sixty or sixty five in math while

1445
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: I was getting hundreds and everything else. And it was

1446
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: because I missed one Line's now because I didn't understand math.

1447
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 3: It's because I was careless. I missed the little details,

1448
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: details like block kicks, not calling timeouts properly, all of

1449
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: these things. And you know what happened. I got sixties.

1450
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 3: I ended up having to repeat algebra two and take

1451
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 3: a summer course, even though everything else on my transcript

1452
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: was perfect. And it was because I was careless. It's

1453
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: because I blew the details. That's what Matt Abralfols did.

1454
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 3: He was careless. He blew the details. He had no

1455
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: accountability after the fact, and he had to go and

1456
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: the Bears had better get this right. And as you said,

1457
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1458
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 2: Whether or not they're capable of that, no idea whether

1459
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: or not they're capable. By the way, I had kind

1460
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: of a pretty similar reaction. It was funny when we

1461
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: were talking when we heard the audio from the post

1462
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: game where he basically said we basically handled it the

1463
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: right way. Dan Bayer said, you know that's you know,

1464
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: interviewing for a future job where you're you know, you

1465
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: didn't throw your team under the bus whatever, blah blah blah.

1466
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: And I said the exact same thing to Dan. I said,

1467
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: after hearing it a second time, I said, I would rather.

1468
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: I actually think it makes him less hirable because he

1469
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: basically did not acknowledge everything that he did wrong. Where

1470
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: if he just said, yeah, that's on me, it falls

1471
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: on me. We practice this all the time. We were

1472
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: not prepared, we were not ready to go. I think

1473
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: that sounds a lot better. Ultimately, it doesn't matter he

1474
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: is no longer the head coach. This to me will

1475
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: be I think, the most fascinating job opening of the

1476
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: offseason unless something truly shocking happens, Maybe even more so

1477
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: than the Cowboys, because obviously Caleb Williams is such a bright,

1478
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: young talent, but hopefully the Bears put him in position

1479
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: to succeed. Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin, broadcasting

1480
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: live from the Tirec dot Com studios, will come back

1481
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: to Sager's extended update. You'll hear it next.

1482
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1483
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin

1484
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tirerack dot Com studios. As we

1485
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: head to the top of the hour every time every

1486
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: week around this time, I should say we get over

1487
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: the news desk, Steve Desager, take it away, my friend.

1488
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 6: Good news for Iowa State. Looks like there will be

1489
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 6: no upset in the late game at BYU tonight. Those

1490
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 6: Cougars leading the Houston Cougars now twenty four to ten

1491
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 6: late in the third quarter, as BYU has just kicked

1492
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 6: a field goal again. Unless there's an upset, i Dates

1493
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Speaker 6: getting into the Big Twelve title game next weekend to

1494
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 6: play Arizona State. Those two schools, Iowa State and ASU

1495
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 6: were each winners on this Saturday. There are two other

1496
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 6: late games going to the fourth quarter. Air Force leads

1497
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 6: at San Diego State thirty one fourteen. The Aztecs apparently

1498
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 6: will finish three to nine this year, but at least

1499
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 6: their field isn't coming up in chunks like other home games.

1500
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: On to the third quarter.

1501
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 6: At Hawaii that is the late game home team leads

1502
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 6: twenty one to nine at the break. At New Mexico

1503
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 6: that is, at the half. As for the Big Twelve,

1504
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 6: among we mentioned the rank teams earlier. TCU got to

1505
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 6: win at Cincinnati. Apparently that's what actually formally clinched the

1506
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 6: ASU spot in the Big Ten championship game. There are

1507
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 6: so many tie breakers down the standings, that's what did it.

1508
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 6: Texas Tech fifty two fifteen over West Virginia today. Kansas

1509
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 6: had its moments and then lost at Baylor today forty

1510
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 6: five seventeen. I don't know if you saw last night

1511
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 6: Iowa was down ten to nothing at the half at

1512
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 6: home against Nebraska, wound up winning thirteen to ten on

1513
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 6: a fifty three yard field goal on the final play.

1514
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,839
Speaker 6: In the Big Ten today, Rutgers won easily at Michigan

1515
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 6: State forty one fourteen, so the Spartans finished five and seven.

1516
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 6: UCLA finished five and seven with a home non conference

1517
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 6: win against Fresno State. Yukon wins forty seven, forty two,

1518
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 6: eight and four.

1519
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: Reckerd.

1520
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 6: Of course they beat you, mass but it still counts

1521
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 6: Massachusetts two to ten this season, but forty seven forty

1522
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 6: two and Western Kentucky at home got a win against

1523
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 6: first place Jacksonville State in Conference USA nineteen seventeen, which

1524
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,520
Speaker 6: means Friday night's conference title game is now Western Kentucky

1525
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 6: at Jacksonville State. This is like one of those NFL

1526
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 6: scenarios where they just played each other in the final

1527
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 6: week of the regular season. Hey guess what the wildcard

1528
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 6: matchup is. Army's got a home game for the American

1529
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 6: Championship game Friday night. Army will be hosting Tulane. Boise

1530
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 6: State is at home on Fox TV Friday night, eight

1531
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 6: pm in the Mountain West title game against UNLV, which

1532
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 6: beat Nevada tonight. The rest of the conference championship games

1533
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 6: are next Saturday, December the seventh, and then the next day,

1534
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 6: December eighth, the final playoff bracket will be announced. Keep

1535
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 6: in mind it's a twelve team playoff now, which means

1536
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,839
Speaker 6: first round playoff games will be at campus sites before Christmas,

1537
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 6: and then for quarterfinals we'll get the Fiesta Bowl New

1538
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 6: Year's Eve, and the other three quarterfinals will be New

1539
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 6: Year's Day, including the Rose Bowl, which of course always

1540
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 6: wants to be on New Year's Day. But next Saturday

1541
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 6: we'll start in Arlington, Texas with a big twelve title game. Again,

1542
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 6: it appears to be Iowa States against Arizona State. We've

1543
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 6: also got a Texas versus Georgia SEC Championship in Atlanta,

1544
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 6: Texas one at A and M tonight. Georgia somehow won

1545
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 6: the non conference finisher last night, and it's Clemson SMU

1546
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 6: for the ACC crown in Charlotte next Saturday night. At

1547
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 6: the same time in Indianapolis, the Big Ten Championship game

1548
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 6: Oregon against Penn State iiO State is not in it.

1549
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 6: Michigan won at number two Ohio State thirteen to ten

1550
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 6: on a short field goal in the final minute. Remember

1551
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 6: Michigan made a fifty four yarder late in the first half.

1552
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 6: There were four total interceptions in this game. Michigan with

1553
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 6: just sixty two yards passing and beat its rival as

1554
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 6: Ohio State on the ground as a teaching crazy twenty

1555
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 6: six carries just seventy seven yards rushing for the buck

1556
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 6: guys who missed field goal attempts of thirty eight and

1557
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 6: thirty four yards and lose to a Michigan team that

1558
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 6: finishes seven and five.

1559
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve de Sager, Fox Sports Radio,

1560
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday and the Sunday or towards Jason Martin

1561
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from thesiak dot com studios. As de Sager

1562
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: just said, we had the stunner at the shoe. Michigan

1563
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: beats Ohio State. What does it mean for Ohio State?

1564
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: What does it mean for Ryan Day? We discussed that

1565
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are taking up till two a m. Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Frado Show follows us. Bernie,

1574
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: of course covered the Michigan Wolverines for a number of years.

1575
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: I know he will have a ton on the game

1576
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 2: in Columbus on Saturday. Michigan beats Ohio State for a

1577
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 2: fourth straight year, thirteen to ten. J mart It's funny

1578
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: you mentioned that you came on with Dan Byer and

1579
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: I on Thanksgiving. We kind of called it a front. Well,

1580
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 2: it was Dan's idea. I don't want to say we

1581
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: because I had nothing to do with it, but it

1582
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: was a great idea by Dan. We called it friends

1583
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: Giving brought on Bernie, of course, after the Lions game.

1584
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: Bernie covered a million Lions Thanksgiving Day games and kind

1585
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 2: of in passing, I said, Bernie, give me the sell

1586
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 2: on how Michigan can beat Ohio State. You know that

1587
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,959
Speaker 2: program as well as anybody. He said, Aaron, I appreciate

1588
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: you asking. I just don't see it. And that is

1589
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: not a criticism of Bernie because I did not see

1590
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: it come in.

1591
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: Jay Bart as a twenty point spread.

1592
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I want to get into this,

1593
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: but it was like you and I, I think, have

1594
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 2: been as critical of Ryan Day as really anybody in

1595
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 2: the national media. I just never bought this. Always fifty

1596
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: nine and seven. It's like, yeah, but you never beat Michigan,

1597
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 2: and you know, you know whatever. As as big of

1598
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: a critic of Ryan Day as I was, this was

1599
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: just so inconceivable coming into today's game. I mean, let's

1600
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: just lay out the stats. The defense was obviously pretty

1601
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: good all year, although it's worth noting the past defense

1602
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: wasn't that good. But Michigan was ranked one hundred twenty

1603
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 2: eighth out of one hundred and thirty four teams in

1604
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: total offense. They were ranked one hundred and twenty eighth

1605
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: out of one hundred and thirty four teams in pass offense.

1606
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, the teams behind them, Navy, Air Force,

1607
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: Army all r the triple option, Iowa. We know about Iowa.

1608
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: So I mean basically of like teams that even attempt

1609
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: to throw the ball. They were basically in last place

1610
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: in college football, and so it was such a I'm

1611
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: still in some ways stunned by this. And I'm stunned

1612
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 2: because Ohio State lost. I'm stunned because of the manner

1613
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: in which it happened, but also I'm stunned because there

1614
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 2: was such a tangible, obvious way for Ohio State to

1615
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 2: take advantage of Michigan. They're down an All American corner,

1616
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: they have the best wide receiver corps maybe in all

1617
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: of college football. And they kept running it. They kept

1618
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 2: running it, they kept running it, and it was just

1619
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: a comedy of errors. Late Will Howard had two interceptions,

1620
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: there were two missfield goals. There was the by the way,

1621
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: coming out of the two minute timeout, they had to

1622
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: burn a timeout because they had twelve men on the field.

1623
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: That obviously cost them, you know, forty seconds that they

1624
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: could have had at the end of the game. It

1625
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: was a comedy of errors in Ohio State, for a

1626
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 2: fourth straight year has lost to Michigan.

1627
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 3: So I was looking this up while you were talking

1628
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 3: just then because it struck me there were only two

1629
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: teams this year that a face Michigan and scored less

1630
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 3: points than Ohio State did on Saturday, Illinois and or no,

1631
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: not Illinois. I'm sorry, I think I looked at it wrong.

1632
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Northwestern scored six against this

1633
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 3: team and that's the only one. As a matter of fact,

1634
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 3: wow es Feo State scored the same amount. They scored ten. Also, like,

1635
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 3: what do you want to say here? Like USC put

1636
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 3: up twenty four on this team, Minnesota put up twenty

1637
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 3: four at the Big House, Washington put up twenty seven

1638
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 3: against this team, Illinois put up twenty one against this team,

1639
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 3: Michigan State put up seventeen against this team. Ohio State

1640
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 3: put up ten. With Jeremiah Smith and all of the

1641
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: talented guys that they have, the skill talented guys, and

1642
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 3: you had, as you mentioned earlier in the show, Loveland

1643
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 3: not playing. You have one of their key defensive players

1644
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: not playing for Michigan and it's on your home field.

1645
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 3: You're the number two team in the country. You're coming

1646
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 3: off that crazy win over Indiana, and you show up

1647
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: like that, and there is no way that's not a

1648
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: reflection to your coach. We understand what the talent is,

1649
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 3: but a lot of it comes from the vibe coming

1650
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 3: from the sode.

1651
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: Honey, hey, does real quick? Let me ask you this.

1652
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: You talk about the vibe. I forget if I mentioned

1653
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: this to you last week. And maybe it's nothing, and

1654
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of all the conversations about Ohio State,

1655
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: it probably isn't the most important. This is gonna sound

1656
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: like such revisionist history. I forget if I mentioned this

1657
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 2: to you last week when Will Howard did the putting

1658
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: out the cigarette celebration. Yeah, I'll be honest. So I

1659
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if we talked about it.

1660
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: I didn't tweet anything because you know, they beat a

1661
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: top five team by whatever. But the Ohio State that

1662
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 2: I grew up on, Urban Meyers, Ohio State, Jim Tressel's

1663
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 2: Ohio State. I don't care if Indiana's in the top

1664
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 2: five in college football or the bottom five in college football.

1665
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 2: The expectation is that you go in and you destroy Indiana.

1666
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 2: And it's not even something that you have to acknowledge

1667
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,919
Speaker 2: because it is insinuated that you're going to beat Indiana

1668
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: because they're Indiana and your Ohio State. And I really

1669
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: was like, like, would urban Meyer be fired up? What

1670
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: urban Meyer want his players doing that celebration a week

1671
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: before Michigan. Maybe it means nothing, Maybe I'm overreacting, maybe

1672
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: because they lost this game. But something about that rubbed

1673
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: me the wrong way of like why are you even

1674
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: acknowledging Indiana as a team. I don't know. Take that

1675
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: where you want.

1676
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 3: That was my point about what was it? Who was

1677
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 3: it that stormed the field after beating somebody that went

1678
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 3: even ranked a couple of weeks ago? A Yeah, like

1679
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 3: how far has Auburn fallen that we're seeing this happen

1680
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 3: at this point? Like, that's not a thing that should happen.

1681
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 3: You're right, you should expect to beat Ohio State. Now.

1682
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 3: The cigarette thing that is indicative of a level of

1683
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: immaturity that doesn't breed. You've been there before, Like I'm

1684
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: gonna give you a weird analogy here, but I used

1685
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 3: to tell people this and pro wrestling all the time.

1686
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 3: Whether it was me cutting a promo or whether it

1687
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 3: was me writing one, or telling somebody to go out

1688
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 3: there and say something on a various show or whatever

1689
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 3: like that, I would always tell them because their natural

1690
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 3: instinct would be to go out and yell and scream

1691
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: at the people and grab the microphone. First off, you

1692
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 3: have a microphone, so you don't have to scream. But secondly,

1693
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 3: screaming can be effective, but not if you do it

1694
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: all the time. The most effective and sometimes most disturbing things.

1695
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 3: In this case, if you want to be a villain

1696
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: and you want to get something across, you don't have

1697
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 3: to yell at me. Just say it directly to my

1698
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: face in a measured tone that gives off confidence. Right,

1699
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 3: so you're gonna tell me you know you're gonna destroy me,

1700
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. You can yell on my face, But

1701
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 3: what to me is more effective is when you sit

1702
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 3: there a foot for my face and you say I'm

1703
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 3: gonna beat you in front of your wife and in

1704
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 3: front of your children. Yep, I'm gonna take your title

1705
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna walk out of this building and you're

1706
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 3: never gonna be the same. And if you win a

1707
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 3: game like you win against Indiana, and you just walk

1708
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 3: off the field. You've made a statement.

1709
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Bingo, And that's not.

1710
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: What you do when you do the celebrations and the

1711
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 3: craziness and all that, like you don't ever see this.

1712
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: It would almost be like a gimmick at this point.

1713
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 3: But I would love to see a coach that started

1714
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 3: a tradition that after a game there was no emotion shown.

1715
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 3: The emotion could be behind closed doors. You can get

1716
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 3: all excited and everything like that, but after you beat

1717
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: a team, you go and you shake their hands and

1718
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 3: then you turn around and you just walk off their field.

1719
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: As Alabama and her Nick Saban, right, you exactly what,

1720
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: we don't need all this.

1721
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 3: You don't need this, and so doing that reflects a

1722
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: scent of I call it immaturity, but it's more it's

1723
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 3: just kind of like there's something there when you see it,

1724
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 3: and you're just like, that's beneath. I agree, you should

1725
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: be at this program because this is Indiana, Like as

1726
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 3: good as that, this is a great season for Indiana,

1727
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: but you should walk in and beat them by forty

1728
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 3: because you're Ohio State and beating them and then turning

1729
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 3: around and just walking off the field.

1730
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1731
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 3: They had a great season with their butt though. Then

1732
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 3: you know, but let everybody else talk about how dominant

1733
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 3: you were you doing that just reflects something that I

1734
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 3: think gives off the wrong vibe. And it also indicates

1735
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 3: the kind of stuff that you saw here. There's just

1736
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: there's a lack of something. There's a lack of moxie,

1737
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 3: there's a lack of poise, there's a lack of that

1738
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 3: like killer mentality that actually puts fear into another team

1739
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 3: when they see you standing against them. And I think

1740
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 3: that is a direct reflection of Ryan Day, because there

1741
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 3: is nothing about Ryan Day's temperament that makes me afraid

1742
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 3: if I'm on the other side.

1743
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: Bingo really quickly. By the way, keeping everybody updated on

1744
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 2: the late game, by you up twenty four to eighteen.

1745
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 2: BYU does have the ball eight minutes left in that game.

1746
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 2: If BYU wins this game, Iowa State goes to the

1747
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 2: Big twelve title game. If b WHYU loses, Colorado will

1748
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: play Arizona State. Arizona State has already clinched a spot

1749
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 2: really quickly. Bigger picture Ryan Day's future, you mentioned it earlier.

1750
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: You talked about a guy in our profession named Ari Wasserman,

1751
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 2: who covered Ohio State for a number of years now

1752
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: works for the Athletic basically said that his understanding of

1753
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: the athletic department ryan Day worth noting thirty seven ish

1754
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: million dollar buyout. Basically, what Ari Wasserman said was he

1755
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 2: doesn't see Ohio State firing Ryan Day, and he doesn't

1756
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: see Ryan Day walking out the you know, not just

1757
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: walking out and quitting, but looking for another job, be

1758
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,719
Speaker 2: it in the NFL, another college, heuch, coaching job, whatever.

1759
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 2: So I guess two part question is do you believe

1760
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 2: it's possible he could be fired? And then to take

1761
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: it a step further, if Ohio State isn't going to

1762
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 2: fire him, do you believe there's a possibility that he

1763
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: could try to look for another job because the heat

1764
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: is obviously on for him with that program.

1765
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 3: So Or even admitted also he's like, you know, I've

1766
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: known this man for ten years, I know him very well,

1767
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: and I do think that influence is something. But I

1768
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 3: think it's more likely he leaves than he is fired.

1769
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 3: I do think that I just think that like this

1770
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 3: blanket idea, that there's no way they'd move on from him,

1771
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 3: that strikes me as a bridge too far. Now, if

1772
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 3: they if they go and win the championship, yes, if

1773
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 3: they make it to the final, yes, they get beaten

1774
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: the first round, even on the road, you know, and

1775
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 3: they shouldn't, but they certainly can. If you could lose

1776
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 3: to you shouldn't lose to Michigan. But you lost to

1777
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: Michigan in this case. But I do think that and

1778
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 3: this whole like, you know, Ryan Days a super competitive

1779
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 3: guy and all this kind of stuff, even though it

1780
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 3: doesn't tend to reflect against Michigan for whatever reason, I

1781
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 3: just kind of I could see him having enough of this.

1782
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: He feels like, I'm sure I've had a ton of success,

1783
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 3: and yet it's never enough. And if you're gonna spend

1784
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 3: twenty million dollars and you're gonna bring in chip Kelly

1785
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 3: and this is what you get out of that, where

1786
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 3: do you go from here? I don't know that that.

1787
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 3: That's the thing is like, is the juice worth the

1788
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: squeeze anymore? When it comes to do I want to

1789
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 3: go through this for another year? Listening to them having

1790
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 3: all the signs at the Big House, with the number

1791
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 3: of days it's been since Ohio State beat Michigan when

1792
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 3: you know that was not a thing for years and

1793
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 3: years and years pretty much until this last stretch, which

1794
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 3: happens to have been my entire tenure, and that I

1795
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 3: could see that. I think it's more likely he leaves

1796
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 3: then he's let go. But I also think that it's

1797
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 3: certainly possible that they look elsewhere, especially if the right

1798
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 3: candidate comes calling or answers their phone call. And you know,

1799
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel is certainly a name you're gonna hear.

1800
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Vrabel, a former Ohiuse state player and also

1801
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 2: a former Ohiuse State assistant under Urban Meyer. With the

1802
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Day future stuff, so I'm sort of in agreement

1803
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 2: with you. Is is, first of all, there's the Ryan

1804
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Day quality of life element to this. And listen, it's

1805
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 2: not just Ryan Day. He's got kids, he's got a wife.

1806
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 2: You know, listen, you don't know what's true and what's not.

1807
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 2: I saw something online. I don't know if it's true

1808
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: that his address got posted.

1809
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like, that's horrible. If that's true,

1810
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 3: that's utterly ridiculous and comply unacceptable.

1811
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: Of course, and we all agree on that, but it

1812
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: doesn't change the fact that this is the job that

1813
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 2: you did sign up for, but it also comes with

1814
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 2: a lot of benefits but a lot of drawbacks as well.

1815
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: There are very few jobs where it's like you're expected

1816
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: to win every game. You have to win every game.

1817
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: And to your point, J Mart, here's the other crazy

1818
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: part to think about. Like, let's say let's say, first

1819
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 2: of all, let's say he comes back. But let's say

1820
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: you get to the college football Playoff, you win a game,

1821
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 2: and then you lose on a neutral site. You're the

1822
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 2: seventh seed, you lose to Texas in the second round. Okay,

1823
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 2: So now, first of all, next year, so you lose

1824
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day to Texas, and now your entire

1825
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: season becomes defined by can you beat Michigan in you know,

1826
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 2: eleven months from now, and maybe you're eleven and zero,

1827
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 2: maybe you're ten and one like you are this year.

1828
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: It really doesn't matter though, By the way, here's my question.

1829
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Even if you beat Michigan, is there like like our

1830
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: fans all of a sudden, like, wow, you know, the

1831
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: last four years mean nothing. We were wrong about this guy.

1832
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: He actually you know. So it's like I think, even

1833
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: if you do the thing that you have been able

1834
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: to do. I don't know that it really appeases anything

1835
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: for anybody. Now listen, if you do the thing that

1836
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 2: you haven't done, which is win a national championship this year,

1837
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: and we went through the playoff scenarios an hour two.

1838
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 2: If you missed it, Ohio State is still going to

1839
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 2: be in even though they will not play in the

1840
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game, and even though they did not

1841
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: be missed, they're still going to be in a twelve

1842
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 2: team playoff. But I just bring it up because I

1843
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 2: just think short of a national championship or as you said,

1844
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: maybe even a title game appearance where you upset either

1845
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 2: Oregon or Texas or somebody along the way, I just

1846
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 2: I think you're coming back and nobody has confidence that

1847
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 2: you can do the thing that's necessary, and so like,

1848
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 2: does he actually get fired? I don't know, But we

1849
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 2: see this all the time. I mentioned earlier, we saw

1850
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 2: it with John Caliperry in basketball, where it was just like,

1851
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: your fans don't believe in you. There's nothing you can

1852
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: do for another year in John Caliperry's case, until next

1853
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 2: year's NCAA tournament. And by the way, even if Perry

1854
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: had come back this year and made like a sweet sixteen.

1855
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 2: Nobody would be like, oh, Cal's got it back, He's

1856
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 2: got it all fit. It'd be like, no, we this

1857
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: used to be the baseline, lowest expect and it's kind

1858
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 2: of the same with Michigan again. So I'm kind of rambling,

1859
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is I agree

1860
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 2: with you. Listen, what he does in his own personal

1861
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 2: life is completely up to him. If I was him,

1862
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 2: I would be looking for something else. And I don't

1863
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: know what his endgame is, what his ambitions are. Obviously,

1864
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 2: I think in a perfect world he would have hoped

1865
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: to beat Michigan a bunch and be the head coach

1866
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: at Ohio State for the next twenty years. That doesn't

1867
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 2: look like it's on the table, And to me, I

1868
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 2: just think from a quality of life perspective, I think

1869
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 2: it's something he's at least got to consider, because I

1870
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: just don't know what the upside to coming back is.

1871
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 2: When you could be eleven to zero through the end

1872
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 2: of November through Thanksgiving of twenty twenty five and it's

1873
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 2: gonna mean absolutely nothing until you play your rival again

1874
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: a year from now, that's right.

1875
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 3: And then and then you will have beaten them once.

1876
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing is you can't just beat

1877
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 3: them once. You have to get on a streak of

1878
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 3: beating them again because that's the expectation of Ohio State.

1879
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 3: It can't beat tit for tat, especially when they've beaten

1880
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 3: you four times in a row. You talk about, you know,

1881
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 3: the benefits that come with the job. There's are a

1882
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 3: lot of benefits, and you mentioned the costs. Yes, like

1883
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure and there's a lot of

1884
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 3: stuff that comes with that job that also comes with

1885
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 3: a giant salary. The reason you have the job is

1886
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 3: because of that salary. But there's the reason you're paid

1887
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 3: that much is because of the expectatients. And not only that,

1888
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 3: not only do you have that salary, you also have

1889
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 3: a ton of resources. You spent twenty million dollars on

1890
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 3: the roster, you spent you know, millions of dollars on

1891
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 3: the coaching staff, and you still lost to that football

1892
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 3: team that you for a year basically set yourself up

1893
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 3: to make sure you did not lose to and you

1894
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 3: lost to them again. Ohio State had beaten forty seven

1895
01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 3: straight unranked opponents, and the one that beat them was Michigan,

1896
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 3: and it was the same Michigan team that they watched

1897
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 3: win a national championship last year, which had to make

1898
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 3: them sick at Ohio State and certainly the fan base

1899
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 3: and all of that. The problem for Ryan Day is

1900
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 3: you are measured at Ohio State by whether or not

1901
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: you beat Michigan and win championships, and he has done neither.

1902
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: He has done neither. By the way, a fourth straight

1903
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 2: year that they will not be playing for a Big

1904
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 2: Ten title either. There are no divisions obviously the last

1905
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: three years Michigan has been in there instead of Ohio State.

1906
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 2: This year it will be Oregon and Penn State mentioned

1907
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 2: it a half a second ago. We did do all

1908
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: of the playoff scenario breakdowns an hour two so if

1909
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 2: you missed any of that, please make sure to check

1910
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: out the podcast. We'll give you some more details on

1911
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 2: the pod before the end of the show. Tell you what, though,

1912
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 2: as great as Saturday was in college football, we got

1913
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Speaker 2: some fun NFL games coming up On Sunday, we will

1914
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: preview Week thirteen of the NFL. Of course, we've already

1915
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Speaker 2: got four games in the books between Thursdays, Thanksgiving games

1916
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 2: Black Friday as well, but There's still plenty more on

1917
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Speaker 2: the docket for Sunday and Monday. We'll discuss it all

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Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Ready, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio.

1919
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Speaker 2: Eric tors J Smartin broadcasting live from the tyreq dot

1920
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Speaker 2: com studios. Keeping the update on the late game by

1921
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 2: you up twenty four to eighteen over Houston. A BYU

1922
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 2: win sends Iowa State to the Big twelve title game

1923
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 2: to face Arizona State. If BYU loses, it will actually

1924
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 2: be Colorado who goes to face Arizona State. To saga,

1925
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Speaker 2: We'll have an update on this game here in just

1926
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Speaker 2: a few minutes, but we gotta talk a little NFL.

1927
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Speaker 2: We had to talk a little week thirteen. Four games

1928
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Speaker 2: are officially in the books, the three Thanksgiving games with Lions, Cowboys,

1929
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 2: and Packers all winning, and then of course the Black

1930
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: Friday game that featured a Kansas City Chiefs win over

1931
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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders. Tell you what, Mary, give us

1932
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 2: a little music, put us in the mood, and Ian,

1933
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: why don't you set us up and give us a

1934
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Speaker 2: couple games. By the way, we have an update. BYU

1935
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Speaker 2: has just punched it in. They'll be up thirty to eighteen.

1936
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 2: That all but eliminates Colorado from the Big Twelve championship game.

1937
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 2: Barring a miracle, it will be Iowa State Arizona State

1938
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 2: of the Big Twelve. Timpership and get back.

1939
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 4: To you, Ian go ahead, all right, Well, four to

1940
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 4: twenty five Eastern time on CBS, the Philadelphia Eagles are

1941
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 4: going to Baltimore to take on the Ravens. The spread

1942
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,520
Speaker 4: is only three points in favor of Baltimore.

1943
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 2: What do we think, j mart First of all, let

1944
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: us be the five thousandth sports talk radio show to

1945
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 2: talk about. How about these running backs? Huh? Yeah, the

1946
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 2: whole position was left for dead. Say first of all,

1947
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 2: say quand your MVP right now at this point of

1948
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 2: the year.

1949
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,520
Speaker 3: He's got a strong argument.

1950
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 2: He would be for me because they're like a complete

1951
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean they were a train wreck, like when you

1952
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 2: talk about most valuable, like he saved that. Like think

1953
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: about where the organization was to end last year. Sirianni's

1954
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: not the guy changes both coordinators. Jalen Hurts regressed from

1955
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and it's like, yeah, there are other factors,

1956
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 2: but the real factor is just they run the crap

1957
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 2: out of the ball because of Sakuon Barkley and everyone's

1958
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 2: gonna keep their jobs, Everyone's gonna get raises. Kellen Moore

1959
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 2: might get a head coaching job out of this. He's

1960
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 2: my MVP. It has nothing to do with this game necessarily,

1961
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 2: but he's my VPS.

1962
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree, I mean the only thing

1963
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 3: that I think he certainly got a shot. I also

1964
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 3: sat here right here in Nashville where I do the

1965
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 3: show from, and watch Derek Henry rush for over two

1966
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 3: thousand yards and not be the MVP, true when he

1967
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 3: was clearly valuable to an insane degree for a team

1968
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 3: that didn't have nearly the skill talent or another you know,

1969
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 3: a quarterback that could do as much for him as

1970
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 3: you know you can get from Jalen Hurts on the ground,

1971
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 3: although Tannehill's a better passer, But I mean, I definitely

1972
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 3: could see it. I think that. I mean, you probably

1973
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 3: have the two candidates in this game, right you would

1974
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 3: think you probably have Lamar and you have Saquon Josh.

1975
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, is coming off that two hundred that is

1976
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 3: that just crazy performance in this last game. It being

1977
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 3: a regular season award, one of those two guys will

1978
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 3: get my vote. Right now, who do you like it,

1979
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: I'll go that far. Gosh, that's tough because I don't

1980
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 3: like the Ravens defense right now at all. I don't

1981
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 3: like them on the back end, and I also think

1982
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 3: that they allow teams to guess what run the football.

1983
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 3: They're a three point favorite at home, which basically means

1984
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Vegas as saying kind of pick them in this The

1985
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Eagles are playing better and they're riding high. And here's

1986
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 3: the other thing. There's somebody else that I don't trust

1987
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 3: right now that I would never have ever been able

1988
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 3: to say this about until this season. Justin Tucker's been

1989
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 3: bad this year as a field goal kicker. If it

1990
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 3: comes down to that, I don't know that I trust

1991
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 3: him in this scenario. I actually think because of the

1992
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 3: inability of the defense to tackle and stop people from

1993
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 3: moving the chains, especially on third down, I think Saquon

1994
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,520
Speaker 3: might be the difference here. And I actually like Philadelphia

1995
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 3: to go on the road and win.

1996
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I do two seven straight wins for

1997
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Listen. I know it's a quick turnaround from

1998
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 2: a Sunday night game in Los Angeles, but Ravens played

1999
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles on Mounday nights, so you know, it's

2000
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: not as big of a deal as it would normally be.

2001
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 2: And the Ravens defense, that's exactly what it is. Is

2002
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 2: they've they've struggled enough. Saquan has been unbelievable. Give me

2003
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 2: the Eagles to win this one as well in Baltimore.

2004
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 3: I so hope it's good.

2005
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 4: Wait, well, with Saquan Lamar, you can also add in

2006
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry and Jalen Hurts. He's got four MVP candidates

2007
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 4: in that game. Anyway, next time I think.

2008
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 3: You got three. I don't think Hurts is I don't

2009
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 3: think Hurts is an empharecanas be sure?

2010
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 2: Anyway?

2011
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 4: Next up San Francisco forty nine Ers. They're traveling to

2012
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 4: Orchard Park to face the Bills. The Bills are favored

2013
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 4: by six points at home. Here, what do we think? Oh,

2014
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 4: that's the same Josh Allen's riding high right now? Sure

2015
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 4: is Josh Allen getting engaged to Hayley Steinfeld? Good for now?

2016
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely? And now here come the forty nine ers.

2017
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 3: Banged up Rock Perdy, who hasn't played particularly well in

2018
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 3: the Elements, is going to go play in what is

2019
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 3: being described as feet of snow. It's gonna be super cold.

2020
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 3: Nothing looks right for the San Francisco forty nine ers,

2021
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 3: and they're coming west to east to play. I just

2022
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 3: this stacks up to me like a statement win for

2023
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 3: the Bills.

2024
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to disagree. Bill's also coming off

2025
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: of a bye San Francisco. You know you brought up

2026
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 2: this point in our pre show kind of chat Jmart

2027
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 2: with with producer Ian. You know, season's kind of on

2028
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 2: the line. Lost, lost two straight, sitting at five and

2029
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 2: six overall. Still have at Miami the Detroit Lions against

2030
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, who are of course tied for first

2031
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 2: place in this division. Yeah. I don't really know what

2032
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 2: else there really is to say. I think it's it's

2033
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:26,600
Speaker 2: an interesting matchup in terms of teams and brands. I

2034
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 2: don't really see the easy pathway, especially brock Party coming

2035
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: off injury, all that of San Francisco winning this game.

2036
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 2: All right, tell you what, why don't we get it

2037
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: over the news desk? There's plenty to get America caught

2038
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 2: up on. Steve de Sager, my man, just do whatever

2039
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 2: you want. Just take us up until two am Eastern

2040
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:50,680
Speaker 2: if you'd like.

2041
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 6: We've got three late games in college football Air Force

2042
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 6: did win at San Diego State thirty one to twenty.

2043
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 6: Hawaii at home is winning against New Mexico in the

2044
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 6: third twenty eight to and under three minutes to go.

2045
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 6: At nineteenth rank BYU, those Cougars leading the Houston Cougars

2046
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 6: thirty to eighteen at the moment, which means things are

2047
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 6: looking great for eighteenth ranked Iowa State, which already won

2048
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 6: at home against Kansas State twenty nine twenty one. Case

2049
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 6: State had fourteen drives, thirteen first downs this evening, and

2050
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 6: two fumbles, including one on the first play. Kansas State

2051
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 6: has lost three of four. They were ranked twenty fourth

2052
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 6: in the country coming into this one. It's looking like

2053
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 6: with the BYU win, the Big Twelve standings will finish

2054
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 6: in a four way tie, which is why with tiebreakers

2055
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 6: that will send the Cyclones to the Big Twelve championship

2056
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 6: game next weekend to face sixteenth ranked Arizona State ten

2057
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 6: and two asu Wan at Arizona forty nine to seven.

2058
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 6: Sun Devils had won five straight, led thirty five nothing

2059
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 6: at the half today Arizona. By the way, the Wildcats

2060
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 6: went two and seven in conference. You know Aaron Howie went.

2061
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 6: Arnie's always on the show, and we did this this

2062
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 6: past week with the holidays. Usually this is the Arizona

2063
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 6: Wildcats basketball program. It's no, yeah, that's pretty much what

2064
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 6: they're looking like right now too. Yes, the Arizona basketball team.

2065
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 6: It's what three or four losses already now, and this

2066
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 6: is always the Arizona football program. It says, yeah, those well,

2067
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 6: just like you gone right, Oh my goodness.

2068
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was tough week.

2069
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 6: We were gonna make it through the whole show without.

2070
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 2: That care of Maryland Eastern Shore today.

2071
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 3: So that's all right, back on the trail.

2072
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 2: They got Baylor coming in on Tuesday. Listen, they're either

2073
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: gonna get right and everyone will forget about it. By

2074
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 2: the way, since we got an extra minute or two,

2075
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:37,759
Speaker 2: are you guys as fake outrage by Dan Hurley yelling

2076
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 2: at refs as everybody else? Am I the only one

2077
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 2: that's like this is who this guy's always been?

2078
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 6: I mean generally or just this week?

2079
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,480
Speaker 2: No, I mean this week it was like insily.

2080
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this ain't new.

2081
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: This is just Dan Hurley, That's what I'm saying.

2082
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: I saw.

2083
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 2: I try not to criticize other media members. Everyone's a

2084
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 2: title to their opinions, but like CBS was like, this

2085
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 2: is not becoming of the face of college basket whatever,

2086
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 2: and it's like, I'm like, listen, I know what's my guy.

2087
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 3: Bob Knight was the face of college basketball for a while.

2088
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 2: And not only that, it's exactly what you said. This

2089
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 2: is exactly who he was a year ago when you

2090
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 2: were lauding him as a genius and miles ahead of

2091
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 2: everybody else in college basketball. And really quickly. Since we

2092
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 2: won't get to it, he did comment on it after

2093
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 2: the game, and I absolutely love this quote. He said,

2094
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 2: quote the bigness of the reaction to me coaching as

2095
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: hard as I've always coached, that was so stunning to

2096
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 2: people that maybe aren't used to seeing such a fierce competitor.

2097
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 3: So if you think.

2098
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley's gonna get canceled and he's going to uh uh,

2099
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna tone it down and he's gonna

2100
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 2: take deep breaths on the sideline, I know it ain't happening.

2101
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 2: Not my coach, people, now, it's just.

2102
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 3: The Ohio State football could use Dan.

2103
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

2104
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 6: Can I just say about speaking generally, as we talk

2105
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 6: college sports all the time on this show, year after year,

2106
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 6: I have brought this up in past years. Yelling gets

2107
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 6: to the point where it gets to be a really

2108
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 6: bad thing in a couple of ways. One where you

2109
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 6: hold the others, including referees, to a standard that you

2110
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 6: don't hold yourself to. Too many coaches are yell first

2111
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 6: and don't held themselves as accountable immediately as they do

2112
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 6: the people they are yelling at, players included. Second is

2113
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 6: too much yelling on the sidelines. And I've seen this

2114
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 6: speaking of Arizona when they used to have Stoop's brother

2115
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 6: as their coach. It was the most negative sideline I've

2116
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 6: ever ever seen. I would never have suggested anybody to

2117
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 6: go play for him on an Arizona sideline because it

2118
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 6: was all yelling and all in your face, not the

2119
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 6: encouragement which other guys have succeeded with. By the way,

2120
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 6: and another way to coach, when you start getting into

2121
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 6: complaining and cross the line and stop coaching, that's completely wrong.

2122
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 6: You're the coach.

2123
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I would say is you could ask

2124
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 2: anybody who's been around Hurly. He loves his kids, those

2125
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 2: players love him, by the way. I saw a comment

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Speaker 2: on the CBS article from the father of a recruit

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01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 2: that's coming in next year. That said, they're just you

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01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 2: know something about they try to tear down winners whenever

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01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: they have success. And so the point I'm trying to

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01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 2: make is the people who like whose opinions on Dan

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01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 2: Hurley matter, are all in his corner, not just fans,

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01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 2: but like the people that are around him every day.

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01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: I thought it was a total nonsense story. Everybody was

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01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: looking for some easy one.

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Speaker 6: The night he throws a chair across the room, you

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01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 6: do need to call him out for that.

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Speaker 3: Though. Listen, didn't I say this last year? He's the

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01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,759
Speaker 3: best thing for college basketball, Like college basketball needs both

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01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 3: Tony Bennett's or style. I mean, I know Tony Bennett

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01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 3: just walked away, but like a Tony Bennett style and

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01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 3: a Dan Hurley style. But Dan Hurley, John CALIPERI like

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Speaker 3: these more polarizing figures, especially ones that win at this level.

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01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 3: That's what you need. You needed some kind of a

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01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 3: villain that if you're not a Connecticut fan, you can

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01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 3: hate that guy and want to beat that guy.

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01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize how much people apparently hate him,

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01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 2: Like I didn't think, like I'm just being sounds weird say,

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01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was important enough for people to

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Speaker 2: hate as much as they appear to online this week.

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Speaker 2: So anyway to say, I know you're gonna say Sana Cutch.

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Speaker 6: As we're talking about programs with the old Big East,

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01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 6: we must mention that tonight former Saint John's coach lou

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01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 6: Carnaseca passed away at the age of ninety nine. By

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01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 6: the way, he had retired in nineteen ninety two made

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01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame that year. There was a college

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01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 6: basketball tournament that wrapped up in Vegas. The title goes

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01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 6: to Oregon eight to zero on a late jumper at

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01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 6: beat number nine Alabama eighty three eighty one. The third

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01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 6: place game, San Diego State up set Number six Houston

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01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 6: in overtime. Wins for Texas A and m over Rutgers

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01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 6: Creighton beat Notre Dame. There I must mention there was

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01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 6: a women's college basketball game where number eighteen Old miss

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01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 6: won today eighty nine to twenty four over Alabama States,

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01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:49,839
Speaker 6: a team that shot eight for forty two with thirty

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Speaker 6: three turnovers in a forty minute game. I looked it up.

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01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:57,799
Speaker 6: This team had lost to Mississippi State as well, nearly

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01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 6: the same score eighty three twenty nine and Alabama had

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01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 6: beaten this same team eighty three thirty three. We are

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Speaker 6: still early in the season.

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Speaker 3: School.

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Speaker 6: This is Alabama State women's basketball.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, they weren't. I thought they'd be a little

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Speaker 2: bit better this year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sure me too. Luka Doncich of the MAVs

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01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 6: was out again with a wrist injury tonight, missing a

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01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 6: fifth straight NBA game. So Kyrie Irving had thirty points.

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01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,759
Speaker 6: Dallas won at Utah. Phoenix beat Golden State. Steph Curry

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01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 6: returned after a sornee had twenty three points in the

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01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:31,799
Speaker 6: loss at Milwaukee. The Bucks handed Washington a fourteenth straight loss,

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Speaker 6: one twenty four to one fourteen. Jannison Tenacumpo with a

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01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 6: triple double, including forty two points. This isn't exactly news

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01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 6: at this point, but Joel Embiid is still out with

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01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 6: a knee injury. Philadelphia did get Paul George back after

2184
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 6: the hyper extended knee eleven points in a win at Detroit.

2185
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 6: Philly had entered three and fourteen. They played a Detroit

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01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 6: team that did not have Ky Cunningham late scratch due

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01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 6: to a hip injury. Atlanta won at Charlotte and for

2188
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 6: the Hornet's LaMelo ball out at least two weeks with

2189
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 6: a string CAF NHL Florida six nothing over Carolina. Utah

2190
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 6: won six nothing at Vegas. Major League Soccer semi final

2191
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 6: wins for LA Galaxy and New York Red Bulls and

2192
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 6: were under two minutes to go at BYU, and the

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01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 6: late college football game thirty to eighteen BYU leads Houston again.

2194
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 6: That's great news for Iowa State. Miami's not going to

2195
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 6: be in the ACC title game. It's Clemson SMU next

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01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 6: Saturday night. The Hurricanes have lost two of three. They

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01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 6: blew a first alf leat IF twenty one nothing at Syracuse,

2198
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 6: lost forty two thirty eight. So on a day Ohio

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Speaker 6: State looses at home. Kyle McCord had three touchdown passes

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01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 6: and three hundred eighty yards beating Miami and cam Ward.

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Speaker 6: Ohio State lost at home to Michigan thirteen to ten,

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Speaker 6: and again Michigan this was key late first half made

2203
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 6: a fifty four yard field goal. Texas won tonight seventeen

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01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 6: to seven at Texas. A and M Longhorns led seventeen

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01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 6: nothing third quarter. A and M's only score tonight was

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01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 6: on a ninety three yard pick six. But if you

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01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 6: wanted your pick sixes at college football today, look no

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01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 6: further than in the coliseum late in the game, as

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Speaker 6: Notre Dame one by eventually a final of forty nine

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01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 6: to thirty five at usc the Irish with two pick

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01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 6: sixes in the last four minutes of the game. One

2212
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 6: went back ninety nine yards, one returned one hundred yards.

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01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 6: In this century, the only other FBS team to have

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01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 6: multiple pick sixes in a whole season was Utap about

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01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 6: fifteen years ago. Notre Dame did it in about a

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Speaker 6: two minute stretch.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger. Seger,

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Speaker 2: have a great evening to Saga. Will be back on

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Speaker 2: Sunday with Mark Willard and the Gang as well as

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Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier and Chris Playing. Fox Sports Radio eritars Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: One segment left, what will we discuss? Gotta stay tuned

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Speaker 2: to find out. Fox Sports Ready, Welcome back everybody, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios. First of all,

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Speaker 2: do you want to thank the crew. Mary Mack has

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01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: been jamming out with the Christmas tunes. We appreciate her

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Speaker 2: producer Ian has done a great job. Steve de Sager

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Speaker 2: shout out to everybody in the back that has gotten

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01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 2: And boy, oh boy, did we have a lot to

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01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 2: talk about if you missed the show. A lot of

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01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 2: conversation about Ohio State's four straight loss to Michigan, Ryan

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Speaker 2: Day's future, the field planting of the flags. How soft

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Speaker 2: is Ohio State? By the way, Speaking of which, Bernie

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01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 2: Frida was following us here, and we know Bernie's gonna

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01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 2: have some incredible stuff. Bernie, of course lived in Michigan

2244
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 2: for years, covered the Wolverines, has covered a bunch of

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01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 2: these games Michigan, Ohio State, so we know Bernie is

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01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 2: going to have some really good stuff really quickly. J

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01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 2: mart I did see this. Speaking of college football, it's

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01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 2: been a college football heavy show. We do have points

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01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 2: spreads out for the conference championship games. Texas a slight

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01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 2: one and a half point favorite over Georgia. Any strong

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01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 2: opinions on Texas Georgia Part two, this time in Atlanta.

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01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 3: Georgia really likes playing in that building would be one

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01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 3: thing I would say. The other thing is the more

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01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 3: I watched Texas, the less dominant I feel like they are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they crushed A and M. A and M

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01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 3: had no offense at all, and they only won the

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01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 3: game by ten, but it was a dominant ten point win.

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01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 3: Their defense is incredible right now. I'm just kind of

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01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 3: very wishy washy on quinn Ewers and the offense. Like

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Speaker 3: the more I've watched them over the last couple of weeks,

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01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 3: the more I think they're going to be better next

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 3: year with Arch and going forward with Arch, I think

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01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 3: his ceiling is going to be higher. I think yours

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01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 3: is fine. I'm not saying he's not, but I mean

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 3: he's There's just something absent there that needs to be there.

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01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 3: I think that game may well be determined by which

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01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 3: quarterback is able to make fewer mistakes, and yours is

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01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 3: such a warrior, and he's hurt all the time, and

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01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 3: he's out there with the ankle and he's still running

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01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 3: and scrambling on all this. Georgia may make that very

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01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 3: difficult on him. If Georgia is tackling and they are

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01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:36,600
Speaker 3: physical with him, that could be trouble for Texas. I

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01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 3: actually think Georgia is likely to win that game again.

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Speaker 2: The one thing we have learned time and time again

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01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 2: with Georgia is basically, really especially this year, they've been

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01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: at their best when Kirby has been able to tell him, hey,

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01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 2: nobody really believes in you. Obviously that was the case

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01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 2: against Texas. Of course, the Tennessee win right after Old Miss,

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01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 2: so we will see about that. By the way, the

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01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 2: other point spreads in this upcoming weekend, we do have

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01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 2: let's see Oregon. This one's a little surprising me. Four

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01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite against Penn State. That feels

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01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: weirdly low to me. I feel like it's just.

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Speaker 3: Because that feels like real respect for Penn State's defense

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01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 3: sure more than anything else, because I don't think that

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01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 3: Penn State's offense is going to be able to do

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01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 3: all that much. Oregon's offense has kind of been up

2288
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 3: and down. But I mean, if they're humming, they're humming.

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01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 3: But I do think that's more respect for Penn State's

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01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 3: defense and their ability to make things ugly seemingly all

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01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 3: season long when they have to. I think Oregon will

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01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 3: cover that. I do. I'd be much. I kind of

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01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 3: expect them to win it by double figures, but I

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01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 3: can understand sort of the thought process on it really quickly.

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01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 2: We do have SMU as a slight favorite over Clems

2296
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: in any strong opinions on that one.

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01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 3: No, I honestly SMU wins it because I need the

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01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 3: Clemson of this to be out. Also, like after the

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01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 3: South Carolina performance and everything else, I'm good on that.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't need to see them in the

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Speaker 3: college football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had their chances, And I also think it

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01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: opens the door about, uh, do we have to reconsider

2304
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 2: they lost to two SEC teams blah blah, So maybe

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01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 2: maybe it's good SMU just makes I'll tell you what

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01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 2: that we got a guy to here. I already thank

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01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 2: the crew, but want to thank him again. Mary Mack

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01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 2: on the board Ian producer ian Steve de Seger from

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Speaker 2: a partner Jason Martin I'm Aaron Torres. Make sure to

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Speaker 2: download the podcast, especially if you're in Michigan fan, because boy,

2311
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Speaker 2: oh boy, did we crushed Ohio State for three hours.

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Speaker 2: Bertie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show is up next.

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