1 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: dot com with Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith, and we're 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: so thrilled to be joined by our preseason TV announcers, 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: the best preseason team in the entire NFL. Charles Davis 7 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Paul Burmeister. Welcome to the bet MGM studio, Welcome to 8 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: Ascension St. Thomas Sports Park, and welcome back for twenty 9 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty four. 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Now nervous, Yeah you too, But I'm glad we get 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: in iconic, Glad we get in our contract. He has 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: to say that. 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: I know, right, he just snuck that in there. 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: I like it. 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: That is his idea. But you think about that. I mean, 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Charles Davis, he's got like seventeen jobs. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: They both have like seven seventeen jobs. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Paul burmeishirt getting ready to do the Olympics for NBC 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: for how many times is this? 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: So this will be my third summer and I've had 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: a couple winners. So there we go. 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Ye, the five time hosts of snlvinch. 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: He's in the class, He's in the class. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: I should get something a little extra for my fifth one. Yes, 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: so I'm actually I have a new assignments for the 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: summer games. Instead of water polo, I'll be calling rowing 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: and canoeing, which I'm in the process of learning as 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: we speak. 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 2: Row eight eight eight with cocks, could be single, could 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: be single, skull. 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: Could be fours, could be double, doubles, sweep or skull. 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Okay, so sure, let's stop. Let's 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: stop for a second. The Olympics are in Paris this summer. 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: They are when is the rowing. 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: The rowing will be the first of the two weeks, 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: and then it might bleed a little bit into the 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: second week, and that's when the canoeing comes in a 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: little more, I do believe. But they're each about a 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: week and I will call I think it's on a Friday, 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: maybe August ninth. I will call in events for the Olympics, 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: and then I'll get in a plane, fly down here, 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: hopefully be there with production meetings. I'll just follow Charles's 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: lead and we will call the first Titans preseason game 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: against the Niners the next night. 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: So cool, dude. The Olympics on NBC the day before 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: you will call the Titans preseason opener with the Niners. 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: Yes, man, does it all. When I worked for the 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: Olympic Committee nineteen ninety to ninety four, we had the 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: Barcelona Olympic Games. That was the first dream team in Barcelona. 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: But my assignment was to head up from the Olympic 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: Committee side the US delegation rowing village. Oh wow, real. 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: And we were in ben Yolis, which was about an 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: hour outside of Barcelona. Now is there approximately a month? Yeah, 54 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: during that timeframe and just had a blast. And that's 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: what I learned my rowing. That's why I learned all 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: my rowing, which led me into The Boys in the Boat. Yes, 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: phenomenal book, terrific movie. But Paul is going to be 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: doing all the stuff that I learned, which is really 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: kind of cool. 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: The anecdotal connections on Charles Davis, like there's no end 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: to it. 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: No end to it. That's why I learned about all 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: this stuff. But here's the thing. When Charles Davis is 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: in a room with Dave McGinnis, there is nobody in 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: the world. I was just it's amazing. Between the two 66 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: of them, they have a connection to some person in 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: every corner. 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: I can't keep bubble. 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: Coach Mac, I don't know, for maybe forty five minutes yesterday, 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: and I think we covered the entirety of the universe, 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: and every single person was like, oh yeah, I know 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: from Oh yeah, we talked about that movie about him. 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: I knew him back. 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just lived that in your office. I know 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: goes to what would you guess my contribution to those 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: thirty minutes where I was like, oh yeah, not many words, 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: just a lot of reaction. 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Coach Mack has done it all and seen it all. 79 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: He has done it, seen it, anticipated it, predicted it. 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: Yes, turned it down absolutely right, taken it and turned 81 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: it down, or had it given to him and turned 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: it down, shaped it in a different way. Oh gosh, 83 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: she's the best, all right. So I know you love 84 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics. I do love the What do you want 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: to ask Paul Burmeister about covering the Olympics for NBC 86 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: this summer. 87 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: The only question that I can really ask is how 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: do you wrap your mind around a sport that you're 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: not super familiar with. I'm gathering you don't know much 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: about rowing, but you've got to learn about it and 91 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: use the rowing words that we just learned together in 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: a broadcast. 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had. 94 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: I've had fortunately at this point that this is starting 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: year eleven for me at NBC, so I think because 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: of the Olympics, all of us who are on air 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: kind of are you I used to learning these sports 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: that we didn't really grow up with, so I've had 99 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: some experience with it. I'm also very lucky that my 100 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: wife is the only Hall of Fame rower the University 101 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: of Iowa has ever produced, so she's the only one 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: in the hall and they're thirty years I have in 103 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: the program, so I've got some automatic help at home. 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: But I do have a system. When I get assigned 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: by the higher ups a sport that I'm not that 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: familiar with that I just kind of start from here. 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: And thankfully there's a wonderful analyst. There are wonderful people 108 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: in research. We have taped recordings of the broadcast from 109 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: Tokyo and also Rio, and I just go to school 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: on all of it. I developed my own little lane 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: of the terms, how the broadcast sounds best, what's my 112 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: job within the broadcast. I'm not the expert. I'm just 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: the one who tries to make sense of all of it. 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: So by trial and error. I have a system when 115 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 3: I have these kind of challenges, and I will follow 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: that formula and I will stay in my lane. 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Two things on that. His wife and would have 118 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: been an Olympian rower, say for an injury, so would 119 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: have had that connection. Went into the University of Iowa 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame last fall, so Paul was able to 121 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: attend it before he went to an assignment. I mean 122 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: this for this family, they go, They absolutely go, and 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: real quick. Paul, how many different sports now have you 124 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: had to pick up that you are familiar with? Yet 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: you broadcast in with extuly because you do Tour de 126 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: France every year. Now you're picking up the rowing. 127 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: Yep, host the Premier League a fair bet, which has 128 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: been a wonderful assignment. 129 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: So I did a really good job with that just 130 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 1: getting that. Yeah, very late in my life. I'm coming 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: to that. But I find all the talk very interesting 132 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: and the ins and outs of who's involved. 133 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: And he can tell you all the leagues how relegation 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: his injuries got it. 135 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really fascinating, wonderful league to follow. 136 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: And I would say two things on that. To answer 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: your questions about ten or eleven sports now that wow, 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: every single one to get a little more and more 139 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: comfortab But as long as you bring up the Premier League, 140 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: I've got two things going for me there. Number One, 141 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 3: before I even worked in that sport, I realized around 142 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: our building, all these people, whether it's the coordinating producer 143 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: or the main researcher, the main host, the main analyst, 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: these people are really damn good, like they're setting a 145 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: very good example. 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 147 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: Then they called me into it. So I had this 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: old feeling like I used to have in football when 149 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: I was a freshman. I get to call play in 150 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: the huddle with the guys who started, this overwhelming feeling 151 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: of I don't want to be the one to screw 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: this up because these guys are really, really, really good, 153 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: And even as a fifty three year old man now 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: that feeling still drives me. Everybody around me on that 155 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: team is so damn good that I am motivated to 156 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: just not drag it down. That helps me a lot. 157 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: Number one is that kind of motivation and a little 158 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: bit of pressure that the high standard they've set. And 159 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: the number two, the research team for the Premier League 160 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: team at NBC is an a plus. I mean, as 161 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: long as we're talking Olympics, they are gold medal level. 162 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: So I've got some things working for me in terms 163 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: of motivation by their standard and the help around me. 164 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: That's like if you've watched and thought Paul's not screwing 165 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: this up. I've got some help both externally and internally 166 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: on that. 167 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I think, and this is an ultimate compliment, but I 168 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: think you are Jim Nance level at using your analyst. 169 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 170 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I think at everything you do, whether it's Tour de 171 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: France or or the Premier League show or whatever. And 172 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: just working with Charles in our. 173 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Process, thank you. 174 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: Thank you. 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean I think he is the gold standard in 176 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: setting up an analyto. I think you have that quality. 177 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 178 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: It's really nice. I mean that that is a trained 179 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: iron here that says that, and that's my best friend 180 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: in the business. Then that too, So thank you, thank 181 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: you both. 182 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, when it comes to the Olympics, there has to 183 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: be a little bit of extra pressure though, I mean, 184 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: this is the top when it comes to sporting events. 185 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 4: It's not it's not even like the super Bowl. I 186 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: mean it's bigger than that because it's so it's international. 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 4: It's why it's the pinnacle of sport. I mean, is 188 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: there an extra sense of that pressure or that feeling 189 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,359 Speaker 4: that you feel in your stomach. 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: For sure, especially with a sport like rowing, where like 191 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: the masses are going to tune in to watch swimming 192 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: and track and field and the things that take up 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: a lot of the primetime, as they should. The people 194 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: who are paying attention to rowing, they know it inside, 195 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: and I don't want to offend those people. I have 196 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: so much respect for the fact that I mean a 197 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: lot of them did it themselves. It's a difficult sport, 198 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: and they care about what's happening, especially at this time 199 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: of the calendar in their sport. So I feel that 200 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: pressure that I talked about as well from from the 201 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: Premier League team being good. I want the people who 202 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: care about rowing to tune in and have the play 203 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: by play person live up to their standard and know 204 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: the terms and know the stories. So that's where I say, 205 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: like I stay in my lane on these new sports, 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: I will learn. I actually just asked our analyst, Lindsay Shoop. 207 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: I said, Hey, this is a little bit nerdy and 208 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: it's some work on your part. 209 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Can you give me. 210 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: The twenty terms that you know I have to know 211 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: they have to come off my tongue easily. Got to 212 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: use them in the right way that the people who 213 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: are watching, who know rowing, they're like, this dude knows 214 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: what he's talking about. And she just sent him to 215 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: me and I said, I'm just getting on a flight 216 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: for Nashville. 217 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: One. 218 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: I haven't read it yet. 219 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I told her. 220 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: I said, they're doing Titans right now, exactly exactly. I said, 221 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 3: I'm going to have my football brain turned around the 222 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: next two days. But when I get home on Thursday night, 223 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to be all about this. So as I say, 224 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: like a lot of nerdy ways to try and deal 225 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: with that pressure that I do feel. Because it is 226 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: a massive, massive deal to broadcast the Olympic. 227 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: How many different sports has Charles Davis call more than 228 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: you would think? This is a good question, actually. 229 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: Football, basketball, baseball, softball, volleyball, golf, golf, track? Nope, no track, 230 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: I think that's it. 231 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Racing. 232 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: Uh nope, what no? Like like, I covered stuff like 233 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: that as like a reporter, but I didn't, you know, 234 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't even calling it. One of my proudest moments 235 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: was covering a tournament and I was like the field guy, 236 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: the PGA Tour pros and they qualify for the PGA 237 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Top twenty people. Mike Small, the head coach at University 238 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: of Illinois, really good player, right, so he qualifies that 239 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: he was qualifying every year. Bottom line was at one 240 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: point here in the madia from the producer, Hey, Charles, 241 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: can you call that putt from such and such? Such 242 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: and such? Then I just went back to him and said, 243 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: you know something, if I start reading putts now, we're 244 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: committing fraud. And that's not cool. I said, that's not cool. 245 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: For the people get run the tournament. 246 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: It didn't ran a tournament, but not a player like 247 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: you know, I could, I can. I can do the 248 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: mentality of a person who played a sport doing golf, 249 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: But the idea of reading putts, what club selection of 250 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: the people who played at the highest level, that's not right. 251 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: Like you need to have someone who really knows what 252 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: they're talking about. And I just told him, I said 253 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: I can't do that. I said, that's fraud because if 254 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm reading a putt, heck, do I know what I'm reading? 255 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: Like you know, if I'm going to break ninety, it's 256 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: a big day for me. We're not doing that. And 257 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: he understood and respected that. And the person who was 258 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: doing play by play that day was Brian Anderson. We 259 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: talked about that so phenomenal. Yes, he is so great 260 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: and you know handles things. Listen, Brian can do everything. 261 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: But you know that, isn't that a great example what 262 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: he just explained about knowing that he shouldn't go there 263 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: and read a putt. The fine line it is for 264 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: guys like you and me, we need to say yes 265 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: to almost everythingle. 266 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: And we did. 267 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: You not as much now with with with with the 268 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: seat that you're holding at CBS, but you came up 269 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: the exact same way I did. We say yes, so 270 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: you try and do it well, but you also have 271 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: to know where you're gonna get yourself into a bad spot. Ye, 272 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: And it's it's not very often you can raise your 273 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: hand and say that, but but every now and then 274 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: you get. 275 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: To calling a volleyball match. At least I've done that. Okay, 276 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: at least I've played volleyball somewhere at the highest level. No, 277 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: but at least I know the basics, understand what they're 278 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: doing the whole deal. 279 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: You were the manager class, oh gym class, right, Rush. 280 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: There's a couple bloody noses now, but reading the putt 281 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: for someone who's trying to compete for a spot to 282 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: write in the Pgaight, it's a good sense. I just 283 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: didn't think it was right. 284 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: Well, but here's the thing, and I don't know if 285 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: you guys would agree with us or not. They say 286 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: that people who can coach, who are good coaches, can 287 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: coach anything because it's a skill set. Is it kind 288 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: of the same in broadcasting, where if you can speak 289 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 4: about a sport and you can talk about what you're seeing, 290 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 4: you can apply those skills to multiple different sports. It's 291 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: not just knowing the ins and outs of a specific sport, right. 292 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: I think so? I think so in so many ways, 293 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: Amy and I think all of us can do a 294 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: lot of those things, but we better know our lane 295 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: in terms of doing it. And it's gonna be three 296 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: different things. Are we doing it as a reporter field 297 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: reporter while the action's going on. Are we doing it 298 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: as an analyst? Are we doing as a play by 299 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: play person? All three of those come with different deals. 300 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: So for me, the you know as an analyst, the 301 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: higher you advance up, the less credibility you have if 302 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: you haven't been involved in that sport. M right, Like, 303 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: if I'm calling a little league baseball game, no one's 304 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: gonna spend a whole lot of time on it. But 305 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: if all of a sudden, I'm telling you know, I'm 306 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: calling the Atlanta Braves Cleveland Guardians game, that might be 307 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: a problem. Yeah. Right, That's where you got to kind 308 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: of kind of fit your spot. But I think all 309 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: of us can do that, can adapt, can make that 310 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: all work because we're all going to work at it. 311 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: But again, knowing where your spot is, what do you think? 312 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I think? 313 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: I think I'm glad that you brought up the three 314 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: positions that you could be doing that and reporter, analyst 315 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: or host. I didn't do it all exactly. You can 316 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: report it anything. I think you can host anything. Charles 317 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: brings up a great point. If you're the analyst, if 318 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: you don't have a real background in that sport, a 319 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: lot of the audience is going to be like, why 320 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: am I listening to this guy? Even if you're doing 321 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: a good job matter you could pick any sport. Charles 322 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: could be the analyst. Some people at home might be like, 323 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: hold it a minute, I don't I don't think Charles 324 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: was a great golfer, whatever the sport is, Why is 325 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: he the analyst? Why in my role as the host? 326 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: If I learned the storylines, if I know what matters 327 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: on that day, if I know what my analysts like 328 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: to talk about, and I know how to interpret the 329 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: games with the name and the rules and kind of 330 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: the very basics, I can host it. I can't be 331 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: an analyst, but I can tee the guys up and 332 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: decide when it's time to move on and do. 333 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: It all over again. But how hard is it to 334 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: keep everything separating? YEA, Because you go from Premier League 335 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: to rowing, to come in here to do our rice 336 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: season games, and you're doing college football, and I mean, 337 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: I've learned. 338 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: It's a great question. It's one that comes from the 339 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: mind of a guy who's been calling events for a 340 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: long time. I had, I think a four day stretch 341 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: this winter where I hosted the Premier League on a Friday. Okay, 342 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: I had to call because for the Winter Olympics, I 343 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: do ski jumping and there was a big national event 344 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: that weekend. So I called a ski jumping international event 345 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: on either Saturday or Sunday, and then I had a 346 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: big ten basketball game early in the week. 347 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: Sure. 348 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: So it's like I've learned how to compartmentalize and to 349 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: be honest not panic at the beginning, at a point 350 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: in my career where that week and it doesn't happen 351 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: that often, where that week would have folded me in 352 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: terms of I would have panicked and I would have 353 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: known how to prepare. I'm like, I don't want to 354 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: screw up any of this. I'm going to screw up 355 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: part of it now. I know, okay, I'm going to 356 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: spend the right amount of time in my lane on 357 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: those three things. When I wake up Friday, I am 358 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: nothing but Premier League. I'm thinking those terms, I'm thinking 359 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: those analysts, I'm thinking that weekend on the pitch, and 360 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: that's it. I'll get in the car and drive home 361 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: and be nothing but ski jumping. Ski Jumping's done. I'm 362 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: nothing but basketball. So even though those days are close together, 363 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: I don't mix when I have that many jam together. 364 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is, you're taking your biology exam 365 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: on Friday again, you're taking your algebra exam on Saturday, 366 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: and you're taking your English exam on Sunday. That's the 367 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: mentality of. 368 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: It exactly, because I wouldn't do this in football, but 369 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: there are other sports because it's not native to me. 370 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: If I'm not really careful, if I'm not really prepared, 371 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: if I'm not super aware, that a mistake like that 372 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: could happen. I could say the football equivalent of he 373 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: kicked a touchdown. Yeah, kind of funny, but kind of 374 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: like not that so great keller could happen if you're 375 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: not really really on top of it, when you're going 376 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: from ski jumping coming off the heels of soccer, when 377 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: neither one of those two sports were your main thing 378 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: growing up. So I just again, I come back to 379 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: this feeling of being a little bit scared. When you're 380 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: a little bit scared of what's coming, I think it 381 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: forces you into some extra prep. 382 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: I love that. And didn't we all learn those kind 383 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: of lessons along the way. We learned from different people. 384 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: I know you did, I know you did. Heck, you 385 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: guys have taught me different things along the way. But 386 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: Andrew Monico is now the play by play voice at 387 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: Texas A and m Okay I came up through the 388 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: ranks with him at Sunshine Network which is now Fox Floord. 389 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: I think, and you know all that and I remember 390 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: him telling me as I got going in it that 391 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: he does want you know, like, let's say we're getting 392 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: ready for a football game. He's spending and this amount 393 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: this today is the home team, tomorrow's the visitors. He 394 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: didn't mix and taught me a little bit of a 395 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: lesson there, because if you go on everything at one time, 396 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 2: sometimes oh yeah, you conflate a player. Yeah, and he 397 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: doesn't exist, or he's on the wrong team, he's on 398 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: the wrong side of the ball. He said, I try 399 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: and keep it. This day. I'm doing this team. This day, 400 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing this team. And I thought it was a 401 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: great lesson and I continue to apply it today and 402 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: I always remember what he taught me about. 403 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: But what's interesting about you, Charles, is you had to 404 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: do so many sports before you really got to go 405 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: forward at the sport that you played. Yeh at a 406 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: high level. 407 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Paul made the point earlier, and 408 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: I know all of us have done it. When someone 409 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: came to you to do a broadcast, he said, yes, 410 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: there's reps. There's reps for all of us. Yes, yes, yes, 411 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure it out and trying to go 412 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: and trying to learn it, and I started out with football, 413 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: but I did so many other things along the way 414 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: and then was able to come back where football became 415 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: the one. So I was pretty fortunate that way. 416 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: And with Charles, it's not just the saying yes, it's 417 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: the saying yes and doing it like it's there's no 418 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: place else he'd want to be right. I remember one 419 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: of my first professional memories of Charles. I think it 420 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: was two thousand and seven. It was the first, yeah, exactly, Yeah, 421 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: it was the first Senior Bowl that we worked together, 422 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: and we used to go down there for the whole week. 423 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: It was Charles, Mike Mayock, myself, and a couple of others. 424 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: We had a great time. I didn't know him that 425 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: well in two thousand and seven, but at the end 426 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: of the week and Charles and Mike and I would 427 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: be on the set for during practice and all that 428 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: got to the game, and Charles was on the sideline. 429 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: He was the reporter, and I remember thinking, I think 430 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: Charles probably should be in the booth call him the game, 431 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: and he felt the same way, And I remember talking 432 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: to him about it before. It was a cold, rainy afternoon, 433 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: and I don't remember the specifics of the conversation, but 434 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: I know Charles was disappointed that he wasn't in the booth, 435 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, yeah, I'd kind of feel the 436 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: same way. That game started, that red light went on, 437 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: and with the rain coming down, you would have thought 438 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: being on the sideline was what Charles had worked for 439 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: for the last month and the only place in the 440 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: sporting world he wanted to be because he was prepared, 441 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: He stood tall, he spoke with conviction, and like, I 442 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: think about that to this day, not just because Charles 443 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: is sitting there, but we all kind of have a 444 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 3: rolodex of good lessons in our professional minds, and I 445 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: remember how well he did in horrible conditions that day 446 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 3: with the job that he knew he probably should be 447 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: doing one up. Nobody would have known it. And I 448 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: remind myself of that quite a bit. 449 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: Oh, that's very nice. And you're not going to get 450 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: to where you want if you don't do what would 451 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: they ask you to do? Yeah, exactly, and do it well, 452 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: You're not going to get there, right. It's the old lesson, 453 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: how do you get your next job? Be great in 454 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: the job. 455 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: You're are exactly, you know, And that's what our friends 456 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: at seat Geek. Seat Geek is to how the official 457 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. 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Why are you people here? 466 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: What did you guys just wander in here? 467 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: Paul's getting ready for the Olympics and Charles just you're 468 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: doing nine hundred different things. Why be at Ascension Saint 469 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Thomas Sports Park to see the Titans in June? In 470 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: mini camp? 471 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: You want to first? 472 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: I think for me, a couple of things come to mind. 473 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: Number one, they're only thirty two of these jobs. To 474 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: be the play by play voice of a preseason these 475 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: it's one of the small cap secrets of something you 476 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: really really want to do in this business. Thirty two 477 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: of us get to do it. There are three hundred 478 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: of us who would like to do it. Why because 479 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: it's helpful for what's coming in the fall, Like we're 480 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: all lucky enough to be in the booth in the 481 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: fall all September through November for you guys through January. 482 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 3: And it's a wonderful way to get started. And you mean, 483 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: at the core a lot of this, we're fans and 484 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: to get to know a team this well, to come 485 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: into a building, talk to the general manager, talk to 486 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: you about how the team was put together that fifth 487 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: round pick. 488 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Here's his story. 489 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: It's fun, Like I really enjoy it, so I think 490 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: it's helpful. I think as a fan, it reminds me 491 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: of how much I just like learning about the team. 492 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: And there aren't that many positions. I'm lucky because I 493 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: think I've got a handful of them where you get 494 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: to work with people like you truly like a lot 495 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: as just as friends and getting to know you. It's 496 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: been a lot of fun getting to know you as 497 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: examples of the Titans community that care about the product. 498 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: Doesn't happen everywhere. So we're a part of that. 499 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. 500 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: And Charles, like I said, it's nobs. He's one of 501 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: my first friends at the national level in this business. 502 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: He's one of my dearest friends, not just in the 503 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 3: business but in my life. So it's just it's fun 504 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: and it's special. 505 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great way to put it. And we 506 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: get to get ahead a little bit. Yeah, Like, you know, 507 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting ready for the season. So when the season begins, 508 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: even though when you call preseason football you're not diving 509 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: fully into the opposition, you still have them down on 510 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: your board and you know a little bit. At least 511 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: I get a base. And it's one of those crazy, 512 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: really good years in terms of this for me. Your 513 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: preseason schedule is San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans. Working for CBS, 514 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: that's not a normal pattern of teams I get to see. 515 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: So guess what if they come up during the year, Huh. 516 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: At least I got a base. I got a base 517 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: to start, sure, and you know, I've seen them a 518 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: little bit. I know the coaching staff is it helps 519 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: me throughout the season and being able to do tennessee. 520 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: The only thing that is really tough, and I always 521 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: you know, I don't agonize over it, but it's the 522 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: same thing and I actually talked with it with every 523 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: coach I've worked with here. Remember during this timeframe. I'm 524 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: your guy, right, I am your guy. But when we 525 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: come here in September and I'm now with CBS, i'm 526 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: your guy. But guess what, the spin isn't always a 527 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: positive going this way from what you're doing. It might 528 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: be the other way. So I just don't want you 529 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: to get fooled, you know, I don't want you to 530 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: think that, hey, because sometimes you have people go hold 531 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: on a second, didn't I see you? Yeah you did. 532 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: So it's one of those weird fine lines. In fact, 533 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: when Paul and I were together at NFL Network, do 534 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: you remember that there was at one point from our 535 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: then management, there's a discussion that none of us were 536 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: gonna be able to do preseason football. 537 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: Yes, because really because it was confusing. 538 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: No, because they were worried that we now were in 539 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: the pocket of I. 540 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 3: Remember, don't like seeing you wear our team's polo on. Yes, 541 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be. 542 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: You're supposed to be NFL networking neutral, not just one team. 543 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: And that was a big discussion, and at one point 544 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: we all almost all got pulled because. 545 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: There were a lot of us. 546 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: There's a bunch of us doing it, and they were 547 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: saying it, and I remember at one point when that 548 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: was said, I said, well, hold on a second, I said, 549 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: if I turn on NFL network and I watched certain 550 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: panel discussions and those people given analysis and sit there 551 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: and go, yeah, how about your Cowboys, how about your Eagles? 552 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: How about your because they played for those teams. Yeah, 553 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: what's the difference? What's the difference? 554 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I said, what are we're doing? 555 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: I said, because you promote that? Yeah, I mean you 556 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: actually you actually, Hey, Michael, what about your Cowboys? Yeah? 557 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: Hold on second, you're telling us we can't do preseason football. Now. 558 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying my words did it. I'm not saying 559 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: that it was a great action, but that was my reaction, 560 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: and that's what I said. I don't know what other 561 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: people said, but it eventually went away, but it was 562 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: Remember that discussion. I was big. The said, hold a second, 563 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: we're about to lose pa, I said. 564 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: I said, I wonder if I could go to the 565 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: bosses at that team and see if we can wear 566 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: coat and times. 567 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, just just to get. 568 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: I will say, in journalism school, they told us that 569 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: you couldn't use I or we in relation to a 570 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: sports team unless you got a paycheck from that team. 571 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: So you bet your bottom dollar I found a job 572 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: where I was getting a paycheck from that. 573 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Team because that was for me to follow. 574 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 4: Charles, you made a good point though, about not not 575 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: even the exposure that you have to the Titans and 576 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 4: calling the games and getting to know this team on 577 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: that level, but the other teams that you're able to see, 578 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: because there's a lot of information in the National Football 579 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: League to keep in your brain. And we've talked about 580 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 4: keeping sports separate, but keeping teams separate has got to 581 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 4: be a challenge too. When you're seeing completely different teams 582 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: week after week after week, that's got to be a 583 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 4: hard season to navigate and keep everything straight and everything 584 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 4: in a line. 585 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: How do you think that. 586 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: I think I do it the same way everyone else does. 587 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: We all have different processes and how we go about it. 588 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: But I just think you find a way to identify 589 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: each team with whatever your identifiers are going to be, 590 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: whether it's through the coaching staff, through ownership, through how 591 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: they run offense, through how they there's certain things that 592 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: make up each team that you identify with quickly. And 593 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, because you've got you've had, 594 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: you've had college, pro high school, little league, We've all 595 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: done all the different things. I think the NFL easy 596 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: is the wrong word, but the familiarity comes better. 597 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: But for Paul, this is an interesting year to do 598 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Titans preseason because he comes in last year, it's his 599 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: first year and he's learning all of this and then 600 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: we change it change, so it's like your first year 601 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: all over again. 602 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: But I think that adds to it. And I would 603 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: have been fired up if it was all the exact same, sure, 604 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: for the reasons we talked about, but I think there's 605 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: an extra layer or three or four of interest in 606 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: what we're doing this August because how much brand new 607 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: there is brand new all the coaching spots. Well, people 608 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: want to tune in and kind of get to know 609 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: not just the head coach, but the coordinators and the 610 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: position coaches. And we get to do that in the preseason. 611 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 3: We can't do that in October November. So that's fun. 612 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: And then if you think about the way a lot 613 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: of the fans watch a football game, quarterback, receiver, running backs. 614 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: A lot of new there too, And I know Will 615 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: Levis isn't new, but it's new that he's the man, 616 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: So that's fun. The wide receiver game is all kinds 617 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: of fun. The running back combination is going to look 618 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: a lot different than the running backs have around here recently. 619 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: So for a lot of reasons, I think that new 620 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: you're talking about just makes what we get to do 621 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: in August a lot more fun. 622 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: It is. 623 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a blast. 624 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: When the word dropped that the Titans we're hiring Brian 625 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: Callahan as the head coach, the first text I got 626 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: was from. 627 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: Charles coaches because Charles knows him intimately and personally somehow. 628 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: If you would have seen I am sure great Charles 629 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: at practice yesterday, Yeah, then you would understand. I mean, 630 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: they obviously had formed a bond at his time in Cincinnati. 631 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: I've gotten lucky because when I joined CBS with Iron 632 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: Eagle and Evan Washburn, they told me this is what 633 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: works for us in preparation. Would you consider doing it 634 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: this way because I'm brand new to the team. Yeah. Sure. Now, 635 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: normally you know what it's like production meeting, right, Paul. 636 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: Means a production meeting. 637 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: When you get into a production meaning you're meeting with 638 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: the team. You know how this goes aim because you 639 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: do it all the time too, and typically at a 640 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: production meeting, it's the play by play person, analyst, sideline person, producer, director, 641 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: hopefully not too many more people than that. We try 642 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: and keep it really reduced because the people that were 643 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: talked to don't really know us. And the more people 644 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: in the room, the less information you're getting. They're not talking, 645 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: they're not talking, so you're try and keep it limited 646 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: so they get to know you a little bit, and 647 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: so on and so forth. And typically a production meeting, 648 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: you're going to meet with who head CoA coach, offense coordinator, 649 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, starting quarterback, one or two other players. So 650 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: what Evan and Iron had said was they had gone 651 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: to a system where the analyst would talk with the 652 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: coordinators offline, bring information back to the group, and then 653 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: when we meet it's just the head coach, starting quarterback 654 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: and one or two other players. Much more efficient, much quicker, 655 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: so on and so forth. I said, cool, So that 656 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: works out great. So I talk with all these coordinators 657 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: now off lunch, just me and them, And over the 658 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: years I'm talking with Brian Callahan, and I made it 659 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: a rule that even if they didn't call plays, I 660 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: still talk to them because they've done all the work 661 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: all with sure, they've done everything but call the play 662 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: on Sunday. So that's how I got to know Brian. 663 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: I knew his dad at Nebraska, and Randy Jordan was 664 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: his dad's running backs coach at Nebraska. And I still 665 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: remember being in an elevator and Randy wants to talk 666 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: golf because I still don't golf channel at the time. 667 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: I want to talk ball. And then I got to 668 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: see Randy out at practice the other day. So you 669 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: see how it all keeps swirling around. And if you 670 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: forge a bond, a relationship, and some of those you 671 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: have more of than other, you know how it is. 672 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, some coaches are a little more giving, some. 673 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: Are not not or. 674 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: Or they may think you didn't come off right and 675 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: they don't want to. You never know what it's going 676 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: to be. But fortunately enough I got to know Brian 677 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: that way, and it was really really cool when you 678 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: guys hired him. 679 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Good stuff. 680 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we could do this all day. 681 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Well I think we have, and the people listening and 682 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: watching do too. Charles Davis and Paul Burmeister will be 683 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: back in August to call Titans preseason games with Corey Curtis. 684 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: Yes looking forward to seeing Corey. 685 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: KRN and excited to have those games, all three games 686 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: on Channel two in Nashville and throughout the state of Tennessee. 687 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: It is an honor to have you both here. Paul Burmeister, 688 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: Charles Davis, thanks. 689 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: For joining us, Thanks for having us all right, having us. 690 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Framie Wells, I, Mike Keith, thank you for being with 691 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: us on the team. 692 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: Welcome the Big Show where the legends go. 693 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: I