Speaker 1: Billie Eilish is calling in right now. If you want
Speaker 1: to say hello, she really is. Yeah, yeah, well hello everybody.
Speaker 1: Welcome to a special and extra special episode of The
Speaker 1: Office Deep Dive. I am your host, Brian Baumgartner. Now
Speaker 1: today I'm gonna need you to hold onto your pants, folks.
Speaker 1: Is that a phrase? Because I have got a very
Speaker 1: special surprise for you. Actually, not one. I have two surprises,
Speaker 1: So let's start with the one that involves my good
Speaker 1: friend Steve Correll, whom I don't know. Some of you
Speaker 1: may know as Michael Scott on The Office. Just kidding,
Speaker 1: I know you know who Steve is. Um, Well, yesterday
Speaker 1: is his birthday. Happy birthday to you, Steve, and we
Speaker 1: all know he is the man who deserves all of
Speaker 1: the presence in the world. Well, I gave him my
Speaker 1: gift last year, which was to surprise him with one
Speaker 1: of the biggest musicians on the planet, who also happens
Speaker 1: to be one of the biggest Office fans on the planet.
Speaker 1: He got to meet Billy freaking Eilish for the first
Speaker 1: time over FaceTime, and let me tell you it was magical. Okay,
Speaker 1: that week she had just taken home five Grammy awards,
Speaker 1: one of which I still believe rightly belongs to us,
Speaker 1: and I'll take that any time, Billy, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: But in honor of Steve's birthday, I'm going to share
Speaker 1: with you all of you listeners my gift to him
Speaker 1: this uh a phone call with Billie Eilish. After that,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be answering some of the questions that
Speaker 1: you have been asking me on social media, filling in
Speaker 1: the gaps and getting to know all of you just
Speaker 1: a little bit better along the way. But before we
Speaker 1: get to that, before we get to you, please give
Speaker 1: a very warm welcome to well the King of the Office,
Speaker 1: Steve Correll and the voice of a generation, Billie Eilish,
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak on
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeaker cook at every month left over from
Speaker 1: the nut before. Oh my good Nay. First of all, congratulations,
Speaker 1: I go insane, this is crazy. How are you guys?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great? I am amazing. Congratulations Steve
Speaker 1: and I were just talking actually, and you won five Grammys. Um,
Speaker 1: we feel like our contribution on the album was the
Speaker 1: most significant, So you can, if you can send one
Speaker 1: over we'll split it. It'll be fine. I don't need
Speaker 1: all of them. You can have one. I just got
Speaker 1: us a Grammy. It's so nice to like actually say hi.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've sort of sort of cross pats,
Speaker 1: but not really. I know. It's so nice. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy to hear your actual voice and look
Speaker 1: at your face. I don't know, this is crazy, it's crazy. Wow.
Speaker 1: This is my mom. By the way, come here, mom, Hi? Hi?
Speaker 1: How are you? You're friends with Amy Ryan? Yeah? We
Speaker 1: love Amy. She's the best. She might be my favorite
Speaker 1: character on the Office. That's pretty awesome that Billy watches
Speaker 1: your show, you know all the time. The phone has
Speaker 1: the Office on next to everything she's doing day and night.
Speaker 1: Why did you decide, Like, is it your strange addiction?
Speaker 1: Is that is the Office your strange addiction? Definitely addiction.
Speaker 1: That's why I had to use that song. That's why
Speaker 1: I had to use it. Come on, I had to
Speaker 1: use your voices because you know, I was telling the truth,
Speaker 1: was a fact. She knows it shows so well that
Speaker 1: she can just listen to it, you know, because she
Speaker 1: knows everything that's coming up. That's true. Sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: need to embarrass you really are you embarrassing? Um? Yep,
Speaker 1: a little bit, Billy. Who who is your favorite character
Speaker 1: on the Office? That's a trap, Um, listen, just say
Speaker 1: Dwight and get it over. Why is everyone's favorite? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's Michael. That's fair. Well, that's fair. The
Speaker 1: only terrible tastes. He only did seven seasons. But that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine. This is crazy. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys understand how dope this is to me. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys for talking to me. This is like, well, that's
Speaker 1: pretty big. It's a very very very big deal that
Speaker 1: you get to do this. I just I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: a pleasure. Yeah, I have to tell you, Billy, I
Speaker 1: have a four year old? Might have I have a
Speaker 1: four year old? Yes? I started late. It's a long story.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later. But she dances around and
Speaker 1: demands to hear Billie Eilish. I don't know how she
Speaker 1: ever even heard your songs, um, but she uh is
Speaker 1: such a fan, which makes me a humongous fan of yours.
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you. That's so cool. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: did you what is it? I have to ask you
Speaker 1: A couple of questions when did you start watching The Office?
Speaker 1: So I started watching at twelve, and I've seen it
Speaker 1: fourteen times now all the way through, which is really crazy,
Speaker 1: and honestly, every single like because I've been getting older
Speaker 1: obviously watching it. Every time I watch it, I understand
Speaker 1: something new because I started at twelve, and I honestly,
Speaker 1: if you ask my parents, most of the things that
Speaker 1: it makes me sound so stupid, But the most of
Speaker 1: the things that I know are because of The Office. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's funked up, it's wuked up. What can I say?
Speaker 1: What can I say? Creative? Damn it. But like, like
Speaker 1: my parents will reference things that I only understand because
Speaker 1: of the Office. They'll sing songs that I'll sing along
Speaker 1: to because of The Office that I don't even know.
Speaker 1: It's really um. There are some words that there are
Speaker 1: literally words Steve that you said in the show that
Speaker 1: I thought were real words, but they were faith that
Speaker 1: they were you not saying them correctly because of the
Speaker 1: character that and it was funny that they did that,
Speaker 1: but I didn't actually know the real word. So I know,
Speaker 1: I know when you're thinking dank and flicker, Yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: that one. Know. I thought she meant like, what what
Speaker 1: is indubitably? Yes, Yes, that's exactly right. Oh that's amazing.
Speaker 1: So you so you start you watch it fourteen times through? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you started the fifteen time yet? I have not.
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to take a break so
Speaker 1: that it's like it's all fresh, you know what I mean? No,
Speaker 1: because if I don't watch it for a period of
Speaker 1: time that I do watch it, then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a yeah, I gotta like miss
Speaker 1: it and then go back to you might want to
Speaker 1: take like ten or twelve years, so it's really fresh.
Speaker 1: I will tell you. I saw you um the video
Speaker 1: that was going around that you did with rain Um
Speaker 1: and he was he was he was quizzing her on
Speaker 1: on quotes and rain I'm not joking. He says like
Speaker 1: two words and you go Kevin, And I was like what,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what? How did she even know
Speaker 1: what that was? It was unbelievable. I have not actually
Speaker 1: seen all the episodes of the Office, so you you
Speaker 1: have to be beat like my fourteen he's the thing
Speaker 1: he did. He once he left, he was like, screw
Speaker 1: those guys, I'm out of here. And did I understand
Speaker 1: yeah he didn't. Hey, wait a second, you know, I
Speaker 1: know I was making fun of you and then somehow
Speaker 1: I ended up the butt of the jokes. Just typical. Actually, Um,
Speaker 1: do your friends watch you? Yeah? My best friends always
Speaker 1: like the same level of obsessed with it as I am.
Speaker 1: What What is it that you love about it? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it's, um, it's like not stressful.
Speaker 1: I feel like so many shows you really have to
Speaker 1: pay attention very closely to understand. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's because I've seen it so many times that
Speaker 1: I already like what my mom was saying about it
Speaker 1: just playing. Oh, I'll set my phone. I'll like literally
Speaker 1: set my phone down. And I was crazy. I watched
Speaker 1: it only on my phone, like my tiny little phone.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want it on a TV or anything.
Speaker 1: My little phone. And I put it on like a
Speaker 1: table and then I like clean my room, or I
Speaker 1: like leave the room, or I'm like in the shower
Speaker 1: or something. You're listening to it. I think the best
Speaker 1: way to do it is put it on and then
Speaker 1: leave the room. But no, it's not. I'm listening though,
Speaker 1: But it's because I've seen it so many times that
Speaker 1: I can come like fully envision exactly what the scene
Speaker 1: is because I know because I've seen it so many times,
Speaker 1: and my brain is like, oh yeah, I know what's
Speaker 1: going on. Like even if I'm on a plane and
Speaker 1: I see like three rows ahead of me somebody watching
Speaker 1: the office, I can tell what scene it is and
Speaker 1: what episode is from from like what they're wearing, and
Speaker 1: like the body language is it, Like does it give
Speaker 1: you comfort? Like is it comfortable to you? It totally is.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like, I don't know, it's like
Speaker 1: a safe space. I think it takes me away from
Speaker 1: the reality of my life, which is must be pretty
Speaker 1: crazy right now, pretty crazy, I'm sure you guys know. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for talking to us. Thank you
Speaker 1: for talking to me. We really appreciate it. Steve, do
Speaker 1: you want to say anything, No, it's just so nice
Speaker 1: to actually talk to you. And uh, congratulations, Thank you guys. Hi,
Speaker 1: thanks Hi, Billy, bye bye bye wow, just wow, thank
Speaker 1: you both for coming on and Steve, happy birthday, my friend.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still a little concerned that Billy learned most
Speaker 1: of what she knows from the office, but what can
Speaker 1: you do? Uh, thank you and happy birthday. All right,
Speaker 1: the time has come to answer some questions from you
Speaker 1: mail bag. That's right now. I'm gonna get to as
Speaker 1: many questions as I possibly can't. But if I don't
Speaker 1: get to yours, never fear, We're gonna be doing more
Speaker 1: episodes like this. So subscribe and comment on Apple Podcasts
Speaker 1: or write me on Instagram and Twitter, because well we
Speaker 1: will be watching. All right. Let's dive in. And if
Speaker 1: I say somebody's name wrong today, I'm sorry. I love
Speaker 1: you just the same. Plus you know who you are,
Speaker 1: am I right? All right? So on that note, are
Speaker 1: very first question, well, maybe less of a question than
Speaker 1: an ego boost. A listener wrote in to say, super
Speaker 1: excited about the podcast. Kevin was my favorite character on
Speaker 1: the Office. By the way, here's the ultimate compliment a
Speaker 1: comedian can receive. You made me laugh so hard that
Speaker 1: I actually developed a nosebleed. The ice machine scene in
Speaker 1: the wedding episode was hilarious. Thank you, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I have been told by many people over
Speaker 1: the years that they cannot use public ice at a
Speaker 1: hotel slash motel because well, they're afraid my feet was
Speaker 1: in it. Loop A pause rights can you one of
Speaker 1: these days on the podcast, talk about the opening scene
Speaker 1: of Stress Relase. This is the episode where Dwight starts
Speaker 1: the fire drill. It is one of the funniest episodes
Speaker 1: slash openings, and I think we'd all love to hear
Speaker 1: how you guys felt filming that. So uh. Stress Relief
Speaker 1: was the episode that aired after the Super Bowl. If
Speaker 1: you have found the show on Netflix, you wouldn't know that. Um,
Speaker 1: I would say it is not only one of my
Speaker 1: favorite openings of a show, it's one of my personal
Speaker 1: favorite episodes. I think part of that has to do
Speaker 1: with the fact that it did air right after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and well, I'm a big football fan. Um.
Speaker 1: There were two openings of the show that we had
Speaker 1: the most rehearsal. It was the most almost like doing theater.
Speaker 1: There was the lip dub open, which was all one take,
Speaker 1: so it had to be done one take, the camera
Speaker 1: moving around the office. And also the opening of Stress Relief.
Speaker 1: I mean there were so many elements that happened in
Speaker 1: shooting that we had cat wranglers, We had two different
Speaker 1: sets of broken glass even at the vending machine and
Speaker 1: Michael with the exterior window. We had copiers smashing into
Speaker 1: doors and things breaking or having the potential to break.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun filming that scene culminating with
Speaker 1: Stanley of course Um having a heart attack. So thank
Speaker 1: you for your question. But yes, for me personally, I
Speaker 1: would say my favorite cold open on the show Roth
Speaker 1: san Islam rights, Sir. I'm a really big fan from Bangladesh.
Speaker 1: Really love your podcast. Well, I am so happy that
Speaker 1: we have listeners in bengalad Dash thank you, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm hearing we have lots of UM listeners in India
Speaker 1: and across Europe. Thank you all wherever you're listening. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening. Walter Byrne writes, Kevin Malone
Speaker 1: had a little black and gold helmet on his desk
Speaker 1: with an M on the side of it. What football
Speaker 1: team does that belong to? I have no idea, I
Speaker 1: really don't. I never found out it was there the
Speaker 1: whole time, and in fact it might have been borrowed
Speaker 1: from NBC by yours truly when the office ended. And
Speaker 1: I guess that makes me really a terrible actor, like
Speaker 1: not doing character study. I don't. I don't know what
Speaker 1: team it was from, I really don't, but I'm guessing
Speaker 1: a small college. It was not. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Walter Burne. So in our last mail Bag episode,
Speaker 1: Dr J Skill asked who would be the best at
Speaker 1: playing hide and Seek on the office. I said Angela,
Speaker 1: of course, because well, because she's so tiny. Four Fry
Speaker 1: responded by saying false, Creed would win at hide and seek. Well,
Speaker 1: he has the most experience as a character hiding from
Speaker 1: people without being found. I think he hid in the
Speaker 1: office for I don't know, close to twenty years. So
Speaker 1: four Fry, maybe you're right. Maybe it is Creed Bratton
Speaker 1: move fass a nine four rights. Thanks for the thoughtful
Speaker 1: interviews and never ending nostalgia. Hearing you talk about the
Speaker 1: web series reminded me of a DVD extra Kevin's Cooking
Speaker 1: Show comedic gold. I did a Kevin's Cooking Show Part
Speaker 1: two inspired by yours for my freshman speech class and
Speaker 1: accidentally spit on stage. Who spit slash sprayed the most
Speaker 1: during takes any memorable saliva stories? That is a great,
Speaker 1: yet disturbing question, I believe. By the way, the DVD
Speaker 1: extra was called Kevin Cook's Stuff in the Office, which
Speaker 1: is just slightly weirder than Kevin's Cooking Show. We've discussed before,
Speaker 1: Mindy Kaling was the one who broke the most on set.
Speaker 1: I think there's no disputing that. In terms of spit
Speaker 1: slash sp raying, jeez, I don't know. I will say
Speaker 1: as an actor and as particularly in film and television,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're on stage in theater, I think
Speaker 1: it's it's more expected. You're you're working your mouth for
Speaker 1: your heart and and stuff comes out of it. It
Speaker 1: is always incredibly awkward because in film and television you're
Speaker 1: usually speaking face to face and sometimes very very close
Speaker 1: depending on where the cameras, and if something happens and
Speaker 1: something leaves your mouth that should not leave your mouth
Speaker 1: onto another person, and the other person can't respond to
Speaker 1: you because they're in the middle of a scene and
Speaker 1: they don't want to ruin it. So everyone just acts
Speaker 1: as though that doesn't happen. Well, it's it's never fun
Speaker 1: for either for either party. But maybe it's because of
Speaker 1: his experience in theater and his excellent elocution and a
Speaker 1: nuncey the ation. I would say, Rain Wilson, and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna leave it at that, and if I'm wrong, sorry,
Speaker 1: Rain JP's dad rights on Apple Podcasts question for future episode.
Speaker 1: You guys all worked really long hours, cast and crew alike.
Speaker 1: When someone kept breaking forcing a bunch of reshoots, did
Speaker 1: anyone ever get angry or upset about all of the
Speaker 1: extra time or money that was being wasted? You know,
Speaker 1: it's part of it, I think in a comedy, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep it right on the edge, and
Speaker 1: I think that there's an energy that happens during scenes
Speaker 1: um where you're attempting in a way I always said
Speaker 1: I thought Steve was trying to make everyone laugh. I
Speaker 1: think that's part of the energy that he brought, where
Speaker 1: he would improvise something or say something in a different way,
Speaker 1: or give someone a different kind of look because he
Speaker 1: was trying to keep them right on the edge of laughing.
Speaker 1: So I think that a lot of it is expect
Speaker 1: did there were times where, like the first a d
Speaker 1: would be like, you guys, get it together, Like it
Speaker 1: becomes a teacher slash student interaction at some times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a certain point where it's it's just
Speaker 1: it's not fun for anybody, and it's certainly not fun
Speaker 1: for the person laughing either, and you feel really, really bad.
Speaker 1: I don't remember anyone specifically getting angry except the first
Speaker 1: a d yeah or maybe a line producer who knew
Speaker 1: we were about to go into overtime and they were
Speaker 1: not happy about that. Unfortunately, there are times where there's
Speaker 1: just nothing that you can do. So sorry, Canci Bornac
Speaker 1: and Randy Cordray. Sorry for the money that well some
Speaker 1: of us cost you. Diane Blue asks, Hi, Brian, that's
Speaker 1: not a question. Love your podcast. Thank you. I am
Speaker 1: such a huge fan. I thought your character was so lovable.
Speaker 1: You were one of my favorites, you and Phyllis. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Phyllis, why did she, oscar, Angela and Creed keep
Speaker 1: their real names on the show? I always wanted to know.
Speaker 1: Thanks well, Diane. That's been talked about a little bit.
Speaker 1: In this Greg Daniels describes it as something to the
Speaker 1: effect of, you know that he ran out of creative
Speaker 1: energy on the character during casting. What happened was there
Speaker 1: were a number of characters who came. They were based
Speaker 1: on characters from the English version of the Office. So
Speaker 1: Jim and Pam and Dwight and Michael and Kevin and Stanley,
Speaker 1: those are the ones that jumped to mind and so
Speaker 1: our names were adapted. Keith in the British became Kevin.
Speaker 1: But they always knew, they meaning Greg Daniels and the
Speaker 1: producers and director on the office, that they wanted our
Speaker 1: ensemble to be larger, and so they brought in their
Speaker 1: actors to fill out the ensemble that offered different personalities
Speaker 1: and voices. And at that point Greg thought, well, let's
Speaker 1: just call them who they are. However, Creed Bratton is
Speaker 1: the only person whose first and last name is the same,
Speaker 1: and um, well, let's just say there there might be
Speaker 1: a reason for that. Ricky Chew asks via Twitter, that
Speaker 1: was wonderful, Brian, meaning the Phillis episode. To me, Phillis
Speaker 1: exemplifies one of the big themes of the show, beauty
Speaker 1: in ordinary things. You were all underdogs for getting on
Speaker 1: the show and keeping it on the air, but she
Speaker 1: was unlikeliest of unlikely underdogs. Her story just warms my heart. Ricky,
Speaker 1: I could not agree with you more. I don't. I've
Speaker 1: never heard another story like it that a casting associate
Speaker 1: gets cast onto a show and ends up being a
Speaker 1: series regular for ten years, nine seasons. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's ever happened before. There are a lot of instances
Speaker 1: of writers who get a role here and there, but
Speaker 1: Ken kappas Greg Daniels deciding that Phillis Smith the casting
Speaker 1: associate needed to be on this show is that it's
Speaker 1: a truly unique story and and part of the story.
Speaker 1: She tells us about going home when we started shooting
Speaker 1: and reading books on improv because she didn't want to
Speaker 1: feel behind as a testament to one her work and
Speaker 1: dedication and well, the show certainly would not be the
Speaker 1: same without her. Another question about the Phillis episode, Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Johnson asks, when are you going to blow everyone's minds
Speaker 1: and tell them who sings the podcasts intro song. I
Speaker 1: mean I feel like I have maybe, Jeffrey, you don't
Speaker 1: listen to the credits at the end of the part,
Speaker 1: I think you just revealed to me you don't. Creed
Speaker 1: bra the one and only Creed Breton wrote the song
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeak, and he graciously allowed us to use
Speaker 1: it as our podcast theme song. So once again, thank
Speaker 1: you Creed, and to you j J. Listen to the
Speaker 1: credits because there are a lot of people who put
Speaker 1: in so much work on this show, and I want
Speaker 1: them all to be recognized, not not the least of
Speaker 1: which Creed Bratton. Michelle Cochrane writes, who if you told
Speaker 1: me the Creed episode would be the one to make
Speaker 1: me cry? Also, Neil Graham writes, I was sledge hammering
Speaker 1: my crappy old driveway, tears pouring down my face about
Speaker 1: Creed Bratton. Let me tell you, Michelle and Neil, You're
Speaker 1: not the only ones I can't. There is just I
Speaker 1: know I said it. There's just something of out that guy.
Speaker 1: And his story is incredible as well, that he sought
Speaker 1: out Ken Koppas who he had worked with before, and
Speaker 1: put together tapes of himself to try to get on
Speaker 1: our show. And you know, is one of the most
Speaker 1: beloved characters on our show now. And I had seen
Speaker 1: him the night before that that's the crazy when he
Speaker 1: came into the studio for for me to talk to him.
Speaker 1: I had seen him at his benefit concert the night before,
Speaker 1: and I had seen him play uh the song from
Speaker 1: the finale. When he came into the studio and started
Speaker 1: on his guitar, just me and him in that room, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there were tears. There were tears for sure. Karen Pollen asks,
Speaker 1: I adore your show. You're so relaxed and thorough. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad it feels that way. Did you ever do
Speaker 1: radio in college or your earlier days. No, not really,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I've talked about radio before. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: one of my first though audio jobs. And this is
Speaker 1: only going to resonate for people who are um, well,
Speaker 1: I guess older. Before the internets were a big thing.
Speaker 1: When you were trying to find out a movie and
Speaker 1: you didn't have a paper and you wanted to find
Speaker 1: out what movies were playing, you would call a line
Speaker 1: that that was the movie line was called the movie line,
Speaker 1: I think, and it would be like, hello, here are
Speaker 1: the movies listed for a mc galeria theater and then
Speaker 1: it would literally be like the quiet place to four pm,
Speaker 1: seven pm, twenty pm, and nine. Someone had to read
Speaker 1: those like once a week for all of the stories.
Speaker 1: I did do that for a little while. I was
Speaker 1: I was the movie line guy for my local area.
Speaker 1: But that was it. Um But I will tell you
Speaker 1: I love it. I love talking to people. I love
Speaker 1: just having conversations with people. And the fact that that
Speaker 1: on this show I'm able to do it with some
Speaker 1: old friends, well it makes it even more special. Odd
Speaker 1: Carrick asks, as a practicing therapist, I am forever grateful
Speaker 1: to the office for being there for me as a
Speaker 1: way to decompress and to deal with my own issues.
Speaker 1: It has been a beacon in times of my darkness.
Speaker 1: Thank you, but one, God bless you and uh and
Speaker 1: I hope you're okay. But to you know, I've heard
Speaker 1: this so much that people use the show well. As
Speaker 1: Billy Eilish talked about as a comfort in a what
Speaker 1: can be a crazy world for for all people, it
Speaker 1: has served as a comfort for her. So thank you
Speaker 1: for saying so. Thank you for watching the show, and
Speaker 1: know that I and others on the show apreciate comments
Speaker 1: like that more than you know. All right, Jonathan Jaynes asks,
Speaker 1: we need you to do a full version of you
Speaker 1: Were Meant for Me by Jewel like you did at
Speaker 1: Phyllis's wedding. No, no, you were not going to hear
Speaker 1: a fully released version of You Were Meant for Me
Speaker 1: by Jewel, Sorry, Jonathan J. J uh from the Paul
Speaker 1: Lieberstein episode. Jaffathan writes on Apple Podcasts, Toby, I love
Speaker 1: this podcast so much. I'm really enjoying the in depth
Speaker 1: and thoughtful interviews. I do need to ask is it
Speaker 1: the case that everybody hates the character Toby. I've always
Speaker 1: felt great sympathy for him. I mean, I guess you'd
Speaker 1: have to ask other fans. I mean, I I think
Speaker 1: most of the characters on the Office hated Toby, or
Speaker 1: at least hr I think it's an h our thing.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to all you hr reps out there, but
Speaker 1: I would say, in terms of fans, or at least
Speaker 1: for me, I just love that Michael hates him so much.
Speaker 1: So there's a love for him because Michael hates him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes sense, but I I love.
Speaker 1: I love that I love and that Steve just came
Speaker 1: up with it. I love it. Jessica Worcestershire asks who
Speaker 1: is least like their character in real life besides Angela Kenzie.
Speaker 1: My guest is maybe Oscar Oscar No. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's me. To be clear, I guess I don't.
Speaker 1: I guess that's for other people to say. But if
Speaker 1: I were saying, I would say me, I am less
Speaker 1: like my my real life character, except well, maybe I
Speaker 1: like to gamble a little one and I I can't
Speaker 1: shoot the rock. Yeah, and patent all back rights. I
Speaker 1: would love to hear people from the office talk about
Speaker 1: their memories of Mark York who played Billy Merchant, the
Speaker 1: disabled building manager who died this past weekend. He portrayed
Speaker 1: a memorable character. Thank you and Patton all back. Mark
Speaker 1: was great. Mark was great, and Steve slash Michael's interaction
Speaker 1: with Billy Merchant were very memorable. It was a tragedy
Speaker 1: that he died, and and I don't know if if you,
Speaker 1: I can't specifically reference where, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: came out and did express their condolences for him for
Speaker 1: his family. Thank you for bringing it up, because Mark
Speaker 1: York should be recognized for the tremendous work that he
Speaker 1: did and it is a great loss, all right. In
Speaker 1: the episode with Jenna Fisher, it's possible that she and
Speaker 1: I may have briefly mentioned an idea that Steve had
Speaker 1: for an office reunion. So Daniel Kelly says, how do
Speaker 1: you let her drop that info about Steve's idea and
Speaker 1: bury it like, oh, yeah, I've heard Steve's idea, like
Speaker 1: the world knows what you speak and brushed aside like
Speaker 1: the crumbs of a cookie. Um. Look, look, first of all,
Speaker 1: it's Steve's idea. If Steve wants to talk about his
Speaker 1: idea that isn't a reality at this moment, then Steve
Speaker 1: can let's just say that the idea does happen. What
Speaker 1: would you want to know? Wouldn't you want to be surprised?
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to be surprised, I can
Speaker 1: tell you this. NBC wants you to be surprised. So
Speaker 1: neither Jenna nor myself is going to reveal Steve's idea.
Speaker 1: I'm very sorry, but the point was there is an
Speaker 1: idea and it's really good. Sean h M talks about
Speaker 1: wanting well very specific new episode. Dude, we're loving the podcast,
Speaker 1: but you know what, we also want an episode where
Speaker 1: we talked to Brian and get to know everything about Kevin.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to hear you tell us everything about
Speaker 1: your character. You know, that is an idea, Sean. It
Speaker 1: has been talked about a little, but not for a while,
Speaker 1: so who knows. But who would talk to me? Or
Speaker 1: would I have to talk to myself and would that
Speaker 1: be a disaster? I don't know. Thank you for the input.
Speaker 1: It is just it has been discussed, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: You can take total credit if we end up doing that,
Speaker 1: Drew Papuches, I'm sure that's wrong. Rights. This podcast brings
Speaker 1: so much joy to my work. Commute. You're the man
Speaker 1: at B B. Bomb Gardner. You're damn right, I am,
Speaker 1: Drew pap And because you said that, I'm really sorry
Speaker 1: that I butchered your name, which I definitely did. Um. So,
Speaker 1: Steve and I talked about the director sandwich, which is
Speaker 1: when a director compliments an actor, then tells them what
Speaker 1: they're doing terribly wrong, and then gives them another compliment
Speaker 1: to soften the blow. So Michael George writes, I had
Speaker 1: to laugh when you were talking about the director sandwich
Speaker 1: because I'm a teacher and we do it too. Usually
Speaker 1: in emails to kids parents, we call it a shit sandwich. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to know they do it other places. Nothing
Speaker 1: made me laugh harder maybe throughout this entire podcast recording experience,
Speaker 1: than Steve talking about the director sandwich, because it's so true.
Speaker 1: And now I'm gonna need to go and look back
Speaker 1: at emails from teachers about my kids and see if
Speaker 1: I can find a ship sandwich there. And if there is,
Speaker 1: well it probably means my kid did something wrong. Reverend
Speaker 1: b B, which is not me to be very clear,
Speaker 1: here's my question, because I'm curious. Was it always the
Speaker 1: intent to do both podcasts or was it just, Hey,
Speaker 1: we have all of this useful stuff left, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Great question, Reverend b b. Uh, it was always my intention. Yes,
Speaker 1: from the very beginning. The first person we interviewed was
Speaker 1: Rain Wilson, and I had even brought it up before then,
Speaker 1: like I think we're gonna want I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: get more material than we want because an oral history
Speaker 1: of the office was, um, my man is bad, but
Speaker 1: let's say eight to ten hours, uh, something like that.
Speaker 1: And I sat down our very first interview with Rain
Speaker 1: Wilson and we sat down for over two hours, and
Speaker 1: immediately was like, well, we can't use all of that,
Speaker 1: and he said so many amazing things. So yes, it
Speaker 1: was always our intention to to release more of the
Speaker 1: full conversations because we knew we had way more or
Speaker 1: we were going to get way more than what we
Speaker 1: needed for an oral history of the office. But thank
Speaker 1: you for the question, Joe Bangles writes to me on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Random question, but do you have a favorite cheese chatter
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin? Going to eleven writes to me regarding the
Speaker 1: Steve Correll episode. I love this episode. My wife has
Speaker 1: a theory on why young people love the office. It
Speaker 1: helps feel less intimidated about being working adults. Just because
Speaker 1: you are a professional doesn't mean you have it all
Speaker 1: figured out. They recognize personalities from school in the show.
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think you're onto something, going
Speaker 1: to eleven. I think you're going to eleven, or you're
Speaker 1: going to a hundred or whatever the biggest number would be.
Speaker 1: That's very interesting. Yeah, I had not specifically thought about
Speaker 1: being less intimidated seeing people you know who work in
Speaker 1: an office later on, not not kind of having it
Speaker 1: all together and figured out. But that's I think that's
Speaker 1: a very very interesting theory. And yes, I do think
Speaker 1: recognizing personalities from their other classmates and the structure of
Speaker 1: a class versus the office was so similar. Like an
Speaker 1: unreasonable teacher who makes you do unreasonable things, very similar
Speaker 1: from Michael Scott making his office workers do unreasonable things.
Speaker 1: Laura be harsh Field Serbic rights. I will say my
Speaker 1: eleven year old son knows every episode and what season, finds,
Speaker 1: all the mistakes and little extras I have missed. I
Speaker 1: asked him why he likes it, and it's because the
Speaker 1: characters talk about real life and he thinks it's real.
Speaker 1: He knows it's not really a documentary, but it's what
Speaker 1: he thinks being adult and working is like, which shows
Speaker 1: how great the show was done. Well, Laura, all I
Speaker 1: can tell you is it is indeed what we were
Speaker 1: going for, the reality, uh, this sort of ultra reality
Speaker 1: of not just making a documentary or how a documentary
Speaker 1: was shot, but in terms of the behaviors and interactions
Speaker 1: of the characters. So thank him for watching and for
Speaker 1: being so interested, and thank you for clearly raising a
Speaker 1: great son and fan of the show. Kristen Sheehy writes,
Speaker 1: I'm loving the podcast currently going through chemo and the office,
Speaker 1: and your podcast has provided me with so much joy
Speaker 1: during this difficult process. God bless you, Kristen. I hope
Speaker 1: you all get better soon, and thank you for listening
Speaker 1: and for watching. And again, I'm I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: us crazy band of nutheads have given some relief to
Speaker 1: what you are going through. Pam Jill from the Randall
Speaker 1: Iron Horn episode writes, what does a key grip slash
Speaker 1: grip do? Well? They grip it and a key grip,
Speaker 1: I mean clearly grips the key, I think BC Jim
Speaker 1: Dad writes, Brian, did you just hear Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 1: the match? Tell Charles Barkley if you just beat Brian
Speaker 1: Baumgartner in Tahoe, he'll be happy. Yes, I did hear that,
Speaker 1: and I attempted after being sent the clip of it
Speaker 1: from Tahoe, where I was getting ready to play, where
Speaker 1: he wasn't. I did attempt to communicate because I felt
Speaker 1: like I was brought up on air I should have
Speaker 1: a chance to respond. So I attempted to contact Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley and Aaron Rodgers and well not really T and
Speaker 1: T because I didn't know how to get ahold of
Speaker 1: anybody there. But I tried to be able to respond.
Speaker 1: They ignored my phone calls. So nothing unusual about any
Speaker 1: of that. Robert McCarthy forty two writes, I'd love to
Speaker 1: know some storylines that just missed making it into the office.
Speaker 1: There must have been a bunch of great ones. PS
Speaker 1: love the podcast. Thank you, Robert um the one that
Speaker 1: springs to mind. I know we have talked about or
Speaker 1: we're about to talk about on an episode pet a
Speaker 1: Pet Day was actually, to my knowledge, the only written
Speaker 1: script that we never did. It was a fully written script,
Speaker 1: and I think it just kind of kept kept getting
Speaker 1: pushed and wasn't done. There may have been some animal
Speaker 1: activists that would not have been happy about that episode.
Speaker 1: I don't specifically remember the content, but pet Day was
Speaker 1: the title, and there is a written episode of the
Speaker 1: office that I read at some point very early on
Speaker 1: that has never ever been produced. Veggie the memur writes,
Speaker 1: just a question, what is your favorite scene you've ever
Speaker 1: played as Kevin Malone. By the way, you're my favorite
Speaker 1: actor person in the series. Well, Veggie, you're amazingly smart.
Speaker 1: Number one. Uh to my favorite scene ever? I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm supposed to say the chili scene. I
Speaker 1: guess that's supposed to be my answer. So I can
Speaker 1: say that, or I can answers differently. The scene with
Speaker 1: Amy Ryan at the vending machine where she is counting
Speaker 1: money into my hands. Um, that's the one that I
Speaker 1: remember being for me the most difficult to not laugh
Speaker 1: because of her sincerity and sweetness and how it was written,
Speaker 1: her performance, all of it. Um. I remember that scene
Speaker 1: and then now that I'm thinking even more, maybe the
Speaker 1: basketball one. I mean, I made thirteen in a row
Speaker 1: on Prime Time and who's done that. Not not many
Speaker 1: people ever have done Network prime Time made thirteen in
Speaker 1: a row from free throw line extended, So that's a
Speaker 1: possibility as well. Nick Hamby on Apple Podcasts Rights great podcast,
Speaker 1: Love the Podcast. I've watched The Office forty four times
Speaker 1: through during my wife's pregnancy. We watched it so much
Speaker 1: that the first song that my son reacted to was
Speaker 1: the intro to The Office. Love the show and pod
Speaker 1: great work. Well, Nick, you might win. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Forty four times is a lot of times. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I could count that high. I will tell
Speaker 1: you a funny story. Billie Eilish, who we talked to,
Speaker 1: who told us at the time that we talked she
Speaker 1: had watched at fourteen times through. There is some discussion
Speaker 1: she has watched it at least one more time since,
Speaker 1: but fourteen times through. And I remember writing about that
Speaker 1: on social media and I can't tell you the number
Speaker 1: of comments that I got that was like fourteen am her,
Speaker 1: She's not a real fan. And I'm like, fourteen times
Speaker 1: is a lot of times, Like you got, you can't
Speaker 1: dismiss fourteen times as a as a number of times.
Speaker 1: So but forty four, Nick, congratulations, you are officially, as
Speaker 1: of this moment in time, you're the pious watcher that
Speaker 1: I have heard of. So congratulations, and I say go
Speaker 1: for forty five. It's a way, way better number. And
Speaker 1: there you have it, folks, another mail bag in the
Speaker 1: well in the bag. Huge thanks to all of you
Speaker 1: for real guys, for coming back week after week and
Speaker 1: and for giving us, well giving us the fuel to
Speaker 1: make this episode. I could not ask for a better
Speaker 1: group of listeners. Keep the comments coming, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: see if we can fit in another episode very soon.
Speaker 1: But until then, we're gonna be back to day with well,
Speaker 1: perhaps the most well dressed man in the business, the
Speaker 1: incredible director Paul Feig. And you never know, we might
Speaker 1: have a little surprise coming to you before then. What
Speaker 1: does that mean, Well, it means we may have an
Speaker 1: episode on Thursday. Have an amazing week everyone, Happy birthday, Steve,
Speaker 1: and I will see you so the Office. Deep Dive
Speaker 1: is hosted and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside
Speaker 1: our executive producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer.
Speaker 1: Our producers for this episode are Liz Hayes, Emily Carr
Speaker 1: and Diego Tapia and our intern is Hannah Harris. My
Speaker 1: main man in the booth is Colin Tadeshi. Our theme
Speaker 1: song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great friend Creed Bratton,
Speaker 1: and the episode was mixed by seth Olandscape