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Speaker 5: On Valentine's today and today and today is Bob fucking
Speaker 5: Molly's birthday. And we got in case you don't know
Speaker 5: who we're talking about, were talking about the one the
Speaker 5: only first off, I gotta to have a drink till
Speaker 5: till Bob Molly.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know what's the crazy thing is a lot of
Speaker 2: us felt like Bob mar It was our father. So
Speaker 2: it's like you shared him with the world because like
Speaker 2: there's no place on earth I can't go and Bob
Speaker 2: Marley record won't play no place. And let me tell
Speaker 2: you something me, I've tested it. I lived by my
Speaker 2: white people. I tested it myself. You can play that
Speaker 2: music at a disrespectful level. You can play it all
Speaker 2: the way up. There's not one person that's gonna say
Speaker 2: turn it down, not one. I've tried it numerous times
Speaker 2: with the cool white people, with the people who look racist,
Speaker 2: for the people who might not be, but they are.
Speaker 2: They used to be in the maund and I put
Speaker 2: on any you have been with me, you've been with
Speaker 2: me and with his dreads and his dreads, and they
Speaker 2: don't get offended.
Speaker 1: Dress.
Speaker 2: That's like, yes, did you ever realize how much of
Speaker 2: global music he was making?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: To your point still growing up right, I had to
Speaker 6: come to terms with what you just said, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, being that you know our father, it
Speaker 6: is not just.
Speaker 1: My father, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So one a time I had to really like be
Speaker 6: like wow, you know, and it was a point in
Speaker 6: life where there was an instance that kind of kind
Speaker 6: of put us in our place.
Speaker 1: And it was one day.
Speaker 6: Most of the times at Hope Prode in Jamaica, at
Speaker 6: my dad's place, everyone come check him, you know, like
Speaker 6: if you need any type of help, you know, utes
Speaker 6: from the streets. This particular day though, these guys Hope
Speaker 6: Bob my museum what it's called today, But these youths
Speaker 6: right growing up there were three boys, but there are
Speaker 6: also acrobats. So during the week they'll come to Hope
Speaker 6: pro and they do all kind of flips and singing.
Speaker 1: You know everybody no.
Speaker 6: On the hustle you watch the wind Street, Yeah, you
Speaker 6: know the good boys.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: So one Sunday, now my brother and I Stephen, we're
Speaker 6: in Hope Rod and you know, this is a Sunday man.
Speaker 1: And they showed up at the gate. So we kind
Speaker 1: of walked down.
Speaker 6: To the gate and kind of told them, I said,
Speaker 6: we said, listen today, it's it's our day.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't take take his own guy.
Speaker 6: We didn't say that, but so but our dad he
Speaker 6: was kind of watching us from upstairs, so he called us,
Speaker 6: Stephen Rohan, come upstairs, go upstairs. Now, he said, you
Speaker 6: see those boys outside, let them inside.
Speaker 1: And this is the street guys. Okay.
Speaker 2: And at the time there was.
Speaker 6: A guy like on Sundays the ice cream man come
Speaker 6: around and he write a little fudgy fudgy write a
Speaker 6: little bike, you know, with the fudge on the back,
Speaker 6: the ice cream on the back. He says, see the
Speaker 6: boys go downstairs by them all ice cream and watch
Speaker 6: them eat ice cream.
Speaker 1: So, you know, as.
Speaker 6: Youth, and you know, my father is kind of is
Speaker 6: you know, when he talks, he talks strong, so you're
Speaker 6: kind of shaking. So but what we realize is that
Speaker 6: our father really was trying to teach us a lesson
Speaker 6: that it wasn't just about you know, his children on
Speaker 6: the inside. It's about the children that don't have anymore,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So right then and there
Speaker 6: we learned the principles about you know, when you have,
Speaker 6: you have to share. That was a and yeah, and
Speaker 6: that's and that's kind of us. His rule to those youths.
Speaker 6: It wasn't even about us. It's about, like you said,
Speaker 6: how those youths. So my father in regards to what
Speaker 6: you do for them as youth just growing up, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was we're kind of in the way.
Speaker 6: He didn't come to see us.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna be bounce around a little bit because
Speaker 2: when you look at all these bioptery movies, these these pictures. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and one of the people that say one of the
Speaker 2: most most accurvated, most on point one is the Straight
Speaker 2: out of Compton one. And everyone is saying that's because
Speaker 2: you know, ice Cube and people were there to somewhat
Speaker 2: guide them to what to talk about. Is this something
Speaker 2: that you had to do with this movie that because
Speaker 2: you know, the family as a whole, this.
Speaker 6: This movie right our brother Ziggy, big brother Ziggy. It's
Speaker 6: been in the works for five years.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: You know he's also the.
Speaker 6: One that was mainly behind Marley's documentary. I'll just watched
Speaker 6: that yeah on the Sheriff. No, not that one that
Speaker 6: went Marley's call. That one is we don't know who
Speaker 6: did that one, but it's out there. But as far
Speaker 6: as family, you know, and then this one now Finally
Speaker 6: when Ziggy, you know, did all the research, find the
Speaker 6: right people that the cast and all the things that
Speaker 6: he needed for the film, got the money he needed
Speaker 6: to make the film happen, you know, he did that
Speaker 6: and most importantly the relationship that we have when normally
Speaker 6: the cast members, but the main actor, the actress, the
Speaker 6: producers and some of the directors. It was just very
Speaker 6: very much an intimate film, you know, and very personable
Speaker 6: because we're able to kind of talk to Kingsley about,
Speaker 6: you know, some of our dad's ways and like attitudes, mannerism,
Speaker 6: and Kingsley himself he's.
Speaker 2: So pointing on as an actor, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He means well, just as.
Speaker 6: A yeah, because of craft, you know, that's a scraft,
Speaker 6: but to be able to tap in and reach that
Speaker 6: level where it's truly impressive, bro, and we love that.
Speaker 6: And this film, as he said, it's really a family
Speaker 6: certified family made, you know, Ziggie, Sidela, Mama, Rita, the
Speaker 6: entire family, myself, Stephen, you know, we're we're always there
Speaker 6: and support all the brothers, sisters, So it's really a
Speaker 6: family unting as well as my dad's friends, right the
Speaker 6: sons of the musicians are playing their dads. A lot
Speaker 6: of Yeah, it's a lot of costs is Jamaica. And
Speaker 6: then again, the amount of people that were able to
Speaker 6: like get a job in Jamaica because of the movie
Speaker 6: your cousin the.
Speaker 1: Movie is another good thing. We're probably that.
Speaker 2: So he's still working from heaven. He's still working from heaven.
Speaker 2: So that's one of the things that me knowing that
Speaker 2: I was going to interview you, I was just doing
Speaker 2: search like a lot of your father's concerts. And one
Speaker 2: thing that you can tell, everybody claimed Bob Molly, white people,
Speaker 2: black people, like everyone felt that a piece of him,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like that, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the main thing is is about the truth, you know,
Speaker 6: and a man like our father, this man lived for
Speaker 6: that purpose, you know. And when you're you're a musician,
Speaker 6: you know, you you know the thing music in general,
Speaker 6: and you know what music is. It's a vehicle and
Speaker 6: we choose to deliver the message or we choose to
Speaker 6: deliver it and we choose to say what we.
Speaker 1: Want to say.
Speaker 6: We see you Rastafar, I know, and what that means
Speaker 6: to our father and us as Rastafari people, us as
Speaker 6: a people in general, human beings, you know, and the
Speaker 6: ones that really want to represent that human being. Movement
Speaker 6: is like that, like so to sol a movement that's
Speaker 6: kind of all father, and that's what he really stand
Speaker 6: up for is a man of his word, like what
Speaker 6: he says, what he does, you know, and still does it,
Speaker 6: you know. And and that's the important thing. So I
Speaker 6: feel like said that truth within that message is that
Speaker 6: connection to a people that seek a certain way of life,
Speaker 6: wants this type of liberty, you know, because it's a
Speaker 6: passion within the liberty, you know. And the most important
Speaker 6: thing is the truth that we utter, you know. So
Speaker 6: when you find people that stick to them things that
Speaker 6: it kind of resonates to everyone. And that's why we
Speaker 6: say one love, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that became more than music. It transcended the music.
Speaker 3: It became a global movement, absolutely, yeah. And it's a
Speaker 3: god movement.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny that you said that I was watching the documentary,
Speaker 2: and I kid you not, I'm not being funny. I
Speaker 2: thought I was looking at Jesus man. I literally was
Speaker 2: looking at Bob like this is what I.
Speaker 6: Think Jesus looked like seeing and with Rastafar eye you know,
Speaker 6: that's really.
Speaker 2: The way of life.
Speaker 1: And it's and.
Speaker 6: Why we why we resonate like that, and why we
Speaker 6: have this consonance and and this presence is because of
Speaker 6: the Old Testament and.
Speaker 1: As Rasta for people who try to follow.
Speaker 6: The naza right vowel that we have the Nazarene and yes,
Speaker 6: subscribes himself as a naz right. So we we try
Speaker 6: or or or daily life as much as we can.
Speaker 6: We're not perfect, you know, but our daily life is
Speaker 6: to follow that order. And it's a Nazara, it's a
Speaker 6: nazer right vowel. You know we were relax.
Speaker 2: You know, there raise on.
Speaker 1: Your face certain things, what you eat and this so
Speaker 1: Roster's we catch with shrimp every now and those everything
Speaker 1: you go through as you growing up, you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to eat that, you know, that's the kind of so
Speaker 1: you you as raster fire people, as Jamaicans in Jenner,
Speaker 1: we make fun of what you eat, your rasta, don't
Speaker 1: do this, don't do that, and then you have to
Speaker 1: and then again with the Marlin name, with that Rastafari,
Speaker 1: it's double.
Speaker 2: You must have never had a glissy before in your life, right,
Speaker 2: what's that?
Speaker 1: Frank? What's that.
Speaker 2: I can't say that.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: Based on what you're saying about, like it's double for you.
Speaker 3: Did it ever feel like a burden the legacy that
Speaker 3: that was like put upon you and your and your siblings.
Speaker 6: I would never see a burden because it's really the
Speaker 6: way of the truth, you know, and it's really discipline
Speaker 6: and just wanted to keep your father's ways. So it's
Speaker 6: really an alignment and proud of it because you know,
Speaker 6: we all, you know, read the Bible, we all do
Speaker 6: these things. So if you can find a way of
Speaker 6: life that's alignment towards that and as a culture is
Speaker 6: a lifestyle which is such we're proud of that, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's never a burden.
Speaker 6: It's a lesson and it's a way of life and
Speaker 6: it's the way we choose to live and the way
Speaker 6: we want to live because we feel good about it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: So it's a goodness and it's like the way of
Speaker 6: the lion, like a king order.
Speaker 1: Real self.
Speaker 2: Now, I was watching going back to the documentary, at
Speaker 2: one point Bob moved to London and to this day,
Speaker 2: to this day, it's a lot of Rastafaris in Jamaican
Speaker 2: people in London. Is that when they when they first
Speaker 2: started going there, when Bob went there the.
Speaker 1: Column No remember.
Speaker 6: Remember like World War two, Jamaicans fought in World War
Speaker 6: two with the British because you know said it's it's
Speaker 6: you know, it's once underneath the British Commonwealth. Right, So
Speaker 6: Jamaicans travel there because at one point before late sixties seven,
Speaker 6: early seventies, Jamaicans and need a visa to go to London.
Speaker 6: They did, right, wow, so a lot of work and
Speaker 6: such and such.
Speaker 1: So a lot of four parents are in London, you know.
Speaker 6: You know, it was a regular thing for Jamaican families
Speaker 6: to receive things from England, like before America.
Speaker 2: Drain our friend Dre he's from London. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 6: That's Jamaican culture in London is like really close that
Speaker 6: you know, even as slang. So it was and then
Speaker 6: again music in general, you know, but my father went there.
Speaker 1: With like intention to make music like.
Speaker 6: Really an exile because of the assassination attempt.
Speaker 1: To exit this album right yeah, yes, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you know remember you you're very well studied, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let me. I got you. I got you pardon, pardon,
Speaker 2: I know normally drink what we praising you. Today our
Speaker 2: show was about giving people they flowers we want to
Speaker 2: give you. We want to give your flowers. Right there
Speaker 2: snoop like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So on to drink Champs, to
Speaker 6: drink yes on this on this blessed day that's our
Speaker 6: Father's days, the fire Right Day, our day, People's Day,
Speaker 6: that's right, drink Camps day. We're giving thanks to the
Speaker 6: most izing period Magty Empire highlighted slas.
Speaker 1: Sometimes m h.
Speaker 2: I remember p Pardoner drinking yes. So I remember you
Speaker 2: know rappers right seeing having we're having a love hate
Speaker 2: relationship with our city and we remember me thinking that
Speaker 2: that that's something that's new. But I remember seeing just
Speaker 2: now on an interview where Bob was just done with Jamaica.
Speaker 2: At one point he was like, man, I ain't messing
Speaker 2: with Jamaica and I was like, damn, Bob, we do
Speaker 2: the ship that I'm going through then, and I'm like
Speaker 2: I'm like wow. And that's where he went to London
Speaker 2: and that's when he started went to South Africa.
Speaker 6: Imagine this right, It's like I watched like for instance,
Speaker 6: the movie and I'm not going to refer to this
Speaker 6: movie because something just happened to me in London was Paris,
Speaker 6: you know, for the premiere, and I'm watching that exact
Speaker 6: reference that you just made in being told in the movie,
Speaker 6: you know, and it made me very emotional because of
Speaker 6: what my father said and what he represents. You know,
Speaker 6: it made me truly emotional because here is the man
Speaker 6: where his gates are open to every and everyone. He
Speaker 6: came from nothing, you know, and everything that he ever
Speaker 6: created or stood for represent the people. Pardon me, And
Speaker 6: here's this man that's helping so much people and the
Speaker 6: same people that you're helping, the same people that you're
Speaker 6: fighting to uplift and bring together, allow themselves to be
Speaker 6: manipulated by a systematic way by politics to feel that
Speaker 6: it's right to try and take a man's life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So that's really the emotion of that. So when my
Speaker 1: father saying done with Jamaica, it was.
Speaker 6: In the moment he's never done with Jamaica, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, In the moment says like it kind
Speaker 6: of it kind of screwed.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's a rule for that, and you know, so you
Speaker 6: take out a journey and I sing some love songs.
Speaker 6: He's like, you know, this revolution might be a one
Speaker 6: month team.
Speaker 2: You know what's ill about that is when you look
Speaker 2: at the political history in Jamaica, it's like almost it's
Speaker 2: almost like bloods and crips the politics and a lot
Speaker 2: of the lot of the rest of the world. Like
Speaker 2: I've seen you you see Randy Aka from Depth jam Jamaica.
Speaker 2: Since I did a video with Lexus and Wayne Wonder
Speaker 2: and Tivoli Gardens, the most scaredest I have ever been
Speaker 2: in my life, the most scaredest I have ever been.
Speaker 2: Like literally, this was what do you call it? Body
Speaker 2: mon Town Jarrison, Like everybody had a gun on them
Speaker 2: and I was like, and they told me, they said, man,
Speaker 2: you're safe, but I was like, I just didn't feel safe.
Speaker 6: But still because nothing nothing with you, right, I mean
Speaker 6: remember Jimmy and people are people have principal when they're
Speaker 6: being rued, they're ruted principal.
Speaker 1: I go out, they told me against black Boy, you
Speaker 1: know me that off top.
Speaker 2: So was I landed in Jamaica. This lady she came
Speaker 2: right over me. She she jumped over my whole foot
Speaker 2: with the shopping cart and then she looked at me
Speaker 2: like what I want, Yankee? Boy, you got it?
Speaker 1: Got laugh.
Speaker 2: Anyone else I seen that, know more all over the place.
Speaker 2: I've seen the Chinese Jamaican Oh yeah, you know. And
Speaker 2: boy was he he was offended. I was like, you
Speaker 2: we don't talk like that.
Speaker 6: Years in Jamaica, years as the Indian Indian people. So
Speaker 6: we have for fifth generation Chinese. And you know, so
Speaker 6: a lot of my friends, you know, they look like
Speaker 6: you and I they look like you.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And last thing one shout out Waggy Tea here my
Speaker 1: first turn off another Chinese Jamaican Jamaica. Jamaican restaurants are Jamaican.
Speaker 2: M VP records.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah big in the culture,
Speaker 1: super huge, super huge. Tager bone is real. Not the way,
Speaker 1: not the way we tread it out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you got you got this hotel, Like I believe
Speaker 2: you're the only person I know that owns the hotel.
Speaker 2: You you flost on me one night He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: you know I got this hotel in Mexico.
Speaker 1: You know me?
Speaker 2: I was like that was that was an entrepreneur.
Speaker 6: He's an entrepreneur world and everything you do in life.
Speaker 6: I believe in opportunities, you know, and everyone always say, oh, come,
Speaker 6: we don't have one in Jamaica. I said, well, no
Speaker 6: one in Jamaica offered me, you know, so I took
Speaker 6: the opportunity. And it started long ago with the same
Speaker 6: malikof relationship. And it's the same partner as a five
Speaker 6: hotel group. They were building a hotel and they wanted
Speaker 6: me to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: And you know, I take. I took a look at
Speaker 2: the place that's the.
Speaker 6: Right outside of cankun a place called Portamrellus Okay, between
Speaker 6: Cankuon and Pli Carmen, Okay. So like man, I'll say,
Speaker 6: forty five minutes from touloum Okay cool, twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: From the airport.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 6: As he land in Kankuon, was right there, nice beach
Speaker 6: protected area, the reef is protected, the mangols are protected nicely,
Speaker 6: the fishing village and ninety two rooms and you know,
Speaker 6: so it's a tiki very so very so let's do.
Speaker 6: There's a great opportunity. Opened in twenty twenty. It was
Speaker 6: a skier with all the thinks that were happening, absolutely,
Speaker 6: but it survived and with the help of a lot
Speaker 6: of my friends and I and I that's supporting one
Speaker 6: in each other, you know, spread the message and it
Speaker 6: got out there more and you know, people seem to
Speaker 6: like going down there in Mexico.
Speaker 2: And I like it too.
Speaker 6: I absolutely love It's. Yeah, tig up to Romary Beach House. Well,
Speaker 6: it's really the fives and Romary Beach House, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. It's a collaboration type of efforts.
Speaker 2: Collaborative And had you been going to Mexico like before that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: not really not.
Speaker 1: It wasn't my thing.
Speaker 6: But I met these I met these brothers in New
Speaker 6: York City in like early twenty sixteen, and at the time,
Speaker 6: I was really focused on Marty Coffee and I was
Speaker 6: trying to build some coffee shops. So the Brethren, you know, hey,
Speaker 6: we're building a hotel. You like to put one of
Speaker 6: your coffee shops in our hotel. So I took the
Speaker 6: opportunity again and I said, yeah, I'd love that. And
Speaker 6: then you go see this just to put the coffee
Speaker 6: in the hotel. Yeah at first, Okay.
Speaker 1: So they did that and then they said, you know,
Speaker 1: we're building.
Speaker 6: This hotel where we're going to open up a new project.
Speaker 6: We're building a new hotel on the beach in PORTUMARRELLUS.
Speaker 6: It's really a little you know, it's a smaller hotel.
Speaker 6: Would you like to you know, we don't know what
Speaker 6: to call it.
Speaker 2: What do you want to?
Speaker 6: What do you thought when you think about calling Roman
Speaker 6: the beach House. We came with that name because you know,
Speaker 6: it was on the beach, near the beach.
Speaker 2: It's on the beach.
Speaker 1: It's academy on the Caribbean. Yeah, man, So we love
Speaker 1: it down there, and it's really nice because when you
Speaker 1: think about Mexico and then place, you have to think
Speaker 1: about Africa and Afro Mexico because.
Speaker 6: From the early times after all mixed. And then I
Speaker 6: learned a lot too, because I learned that when I
Speaker 6: found myself in Mexico. I started to realize that, wow,
Speaker 6: we're all part of the I'maridian culture from the early times,
Speaker 6: because that's the Americas. So it's a part of the Caribbean.
Speaker 6: So then I go again and look at Barbados. It's
Speaker 6: right there, and that's everything. It's part of the whole
Speaker 6: i'm Aridian you know, this part of the.
Speaker 1: World, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So it's just really extending the culture and realizing that
Speaker 6: earth is a lot and its fullness thereof so wherever
Speaker 6: we are, wherever we go, it is home. And we
Speaker 6: felt very good there and we feel at home in
Speaker 6: Mexico as well like anywhere else.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, man, I love it. I love Mexico. Big up,
Speaker 1: big up to Mexico.
Speaker 2: So when I when I researched, like you know, the
Speaker 2: stuff that I know about Rastafarian culture, it brings you
Speaker 2: to Helly Selassie, which brings you to Ethiopia. Right, what
Speaker 2: brings you to Africa?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What is the correlation? And we know all men come
Speaker 2: from Africa? Right, but wise is like Jamaica and Africa's
Speaker 2: relationship like, so is it be close to the highly Selassie?
Speaker 6: Well, it started with Marcus Garvey Marcus, that's right. And
Speaker 6: then you know those early times in general as cultural
Speaker 6: people and the history of Jamaica with like all of
Speaker 6: the Maroons, the early Maroons who fought against the British
Speaker 6: for their independence and never got conquered by the Brits.
Speaker 1: So we were always like rebellious people, you know.
Speaker 6: So during the time when Marcus Goviy early I said
Speaker 6: before the nineteen.
Speaker 1: Thirties, when Marcus Govey was.
Speaker 6: Healing and building his movement in Harlem and throughout the
Speaker 6: world and studying in England and traveling the earth. Marcus
Speaker 6: Govey learned about the crowning of the Emperor highly s
Speaker 6: last in the First which would take place in nineteen thirty.
Speaker 6: So Marcus Garvey being Jamaica and returned to the Jamaica
Speaker 6: and told the black people of Jamaica that we black
Speaker 6: people in the Western Hemisphere should look towards the east
Speaker 6: for the crowning of a black king, our King, our Christ.
Speaker 1: And our God Almighty.
Speaker 6: So it says in Revelation that you will be crowned
Speaker 6: king of kings, lords of lords, concurrent line of a
Speaker 6: tribe of Judah, elect.
Speaker 2: Of God himself.
Speaker 6: So when Marcus Govi said that, iron, I know, as
Speaker 6: black people in the Western Hemisphere, there's another brethren whose
Speaker 6: name is Howell, who's really started the Rastafari movement.
Speaker 1: Leonard Howell. Don't quote me on the exact name.
Speaker 2: Google.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find this name on the Google.
Speaker 6: But then the movement started and then we as black
Speaker 6: people in the Western Hemisphere started to look towards Ethiopia.
Speaker 6: The crowning of the King as our God, and we
Speaker 6: started to follow that the ways of Ethiopia because we
Speaker 6: knew that now that me and Ethiopia is the first
Speaker 6: place to really follow, yes, as Christ. In four AD
Speaker 6: when the Eunich met Philip and told Queen Candace about
Speaker 6: this great man, this great man that he met and
Speaker 6: blah blah blah and such and such was Philip who
Speaker 6: was a follower of Christ. And then he started Christianity
Speaker 6: that time. Then, you know, so we as rasta Pharai people,
Speaker 6: we look to Ethiopia and that's the Orthodox Church, which
Speaker 6: is the faith of Rastapharai, if you ever asked about that.
Speaker 6: So that's when it really started in nineteen thirty the
Speaker 6: crowning of the King of Kings, and everyone knows this
Speaker 6: in the world because every nation was there that day
Speaker 6: and everyone ad to kneel and bow to that emperor.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: Yes, it was a two hundred and twenty fifth lineage
Speaker 6: of King David Seed of Jesse, and those two hundred
Speaker 6: and twenty five kings are the kings that rule the earth.
Speaker 6: So when we talk about earth, we have to talk
Speaker 6: about the olden days and the Biblical ways. So we
Speaker 6: follow the King David strown. We didn't follow Babylon thrown,
Speaker 6: which was always trying to fight against King David Shroan,
Speaker 6: if you know what I mean, Like you know all
Speaker 6: the constantinoples, all their Roman Empire, all these guys that
Speaker 6: never stopped, you know. So we have Rastafari people. We
Speaker 6: represent King David thron and that is highly Selastic thrown.
Speaker 1: And that's how we come to say highest Selassie is
Speaker 1: who we calls in people. Majesty is what.
Speaker 6: We call the Almighty God himself and a living flesh.
Speaker 6: So that's how we were able to like manifest our
Speaker 6: flesh this way by that teaching of this great man
Speaker 6: who manifests the God within himself at the highest order.
Speaker 6: So we believe upon that and we live upon that.
Speaker 6: And those are where we get our teachings. And those
Speaker 6: are the teachings we follow. So other people have other
Speaker 6: teachings that they follow. And sometimes you stumble, like your
Speaker 6: teaching make it make you stumble.
Speaker 3: This one keeps us more upright, I didn't have while
Speaker 3: he was still alive? Right, who classie? I wasn't he
Speaker 3: still alive?
Speaker 2: When I when?
Speaker 1: When when people start to follow him in Jamaica.
Speaker 6: His majesty is forever living, and absolutely so. But his
Speaker 6: myjest is forever living.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I.
Speaker 2: Think they they I think they did a study and
Speaker 2: they said that his blood is actually related to Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6: Say, that's why I mentioned to you the lineage of
Speaker 6: King David. And then within that lineage there's two hundred
Speaker 6: and twenty five king. And you have Abraham, Moses, and
Speaker 6: you have Yes Sirs Christ himself, you have like h
Speaker 6: like you have Salomon, you have David and his majesties
Speaker 6: are part of that lineage.
Speaker 1: And that's why I talked about King David's thrown. And
Speaker 1: that's same as Christ in his kingly character, right, and
Speaker 1: Christ in the flesh. So all the Christ, all the
Speaker 1: Christ consciousness, the great kings of this earth, who took
Speaker 1: on the Christ consciousness. Who are the heads of this government?
Speaker 6: Who have who have the shoulders of the almighty God
Speaker 6: and the rule of this government with the God law?
Speaker 1: You know, the ancient Abramic law. You know that's the law.
Speaker 2: You know what I believe? Yes, look like you don't
Speaker 2: look at me like that, girl. I believe like in
Speaker 2: years to come, they will talk about Tupac the same
Speaker 2: way they will talk about like because when you look
Speaker 2: at when you look at let me stick with ball,
Speaker 2: when you look at the history of how he did this,
Speaker 2: this was all righteous. This was like you know, when
Speaker 2: you go look at all these interviews and you go
Speaker 2: look at these everything that he said something one time
Speaker 2: he said, they love you so much they'll kill you.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck because love and
Speaker 2: hate is kind of almost the same thing. But he
Speaker 2: said he said, sometimes they can love you so much
Speaker 2: that they'll kill you. And I couldn't distinguish if he
Speaker 2: said they'll kill you like meaning himself or all just
Speaker 2: that love itself.
Speaker 1: Like this is all biblical factual, And you.
Speaker 6: Know, he said something so important because man himself, right,
Speaker 6: like we talk about man. We're flesh, but man have
Speaker 6: like an ideology, right, and some men have good ideology
Speaker 6: and good dreams that we tappen into a certain frequency.
Speaker 6: And you talk about like Tupac, you know, but we're
Speaker 6: not talking about Tupac that you see walking on the street.
Speaker 6: We're talking about the two Pac that you see speaking
Speaker 6: a thing, a saying as something. And that's what each
Speaker 6: of us have as beings in general. Right, because we
Speaker 6: have that goodness that we're made from because we are
Speaker 6: made from love and you have you have to make
Speaker 6: love to produce that.
Speaker 2: Damn. You got a lot of them out there. DMN
Speaker 2: for real. You know, we know you are here club,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we love that, And it's it's all what the
Speaker 6: ones have to say that we try to like gravitate
Speaker 6: towards you know, the man else and we finding good
Speaker 6: in each other. So yeah, man, they're going to talk
Speaker 6: about great ones that have had great things to say
Speaker 6: and who always wanted to uplift people. So that's the
Speaker 6: real purpose, you know, with the upliftment of people, you know,
Speaker 6: and when you're speaking that yet now all the time,
Speaker 6: you know, some of the times it kind of but
Speaker 6: the we're going to focus on the good side of you,
Speaker 6: you know, and that's what we all need to start
Speaker 6: doing now and start focused on people goodness.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? People like too much, don't
Speaker 1: fall I leave it up forness. Now.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think the CIA was really
Speaker 2: like like tapping into Jamaica like that, because like when
Speaker 2: you see years later, right, you see Malcolm X and
Speaker 2: then years later there's actually studies that come out the show. Well,
Speaker 2: Ceia set Malcolm X up and this rumor has never
Speaker 2: been con form Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 6: Yes, o me, I'm a you know, I'm a tell
Speaker 6: of person where I watched UFO.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you are about to say. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: You can't even call it conspiracy.
Speaker 2: They talk about it.
Speaker 1: I went watching UFO since the early nineteen nineties, you
Speaker 1: did so.
Speaker 2: Anyway, when we.
Speaker 6: Talk about Jamaica in general, right, and we talked about
Speaker 6: trade and waterways and entrance to a certain system, right,
Speaker 6: the stream, the stream of like from how you have
Speaker 6: to travel into like the money pool, right, you know,
Speaker 6: coming from Africa down the street and blah blah blah,
Speaker 6: and certain places that you have to hang out.
Speaker 1: Right, So Jamaica is like the little little small island is.
Speaker 6: Right in that little you gotta pass that place to
Speaker 6: get into the wealth, right, the trades, the gates, it's
Speaker 6: the gateway.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: So what happened in Jamaica now in the early times
Speaker 6: when the British Empire had a larger influence, before this
Speaker 6: independence thing, you know, it was you know, Jamaica was like.
Speaker 1: A place where you really it is not too much violence.
Speaker 6: It wasn't now very in the sixties, Jamaica was so
Speaker 6: peaceful and lovely.
Speaker 1: So when now the whole communist movement began, you know
Speaker 1: that thing.
Speaker 6: And then the start now with the politicians, when the
Speaker 6: independence came now and these two parties started to mingle.
Speaker 6: One was like they call him a socialist, which was manly,
Speaker 6: and the other one was like, uh, the prime minister, right, yeah,
Speaker 6: the two of them, the same one that my dad,
Speaker 6: Michael Wiley and Edward Siaga. So he was more like
Speaker 6: c I that's right, you know, you know, you know that.
Speaker 6: So one though, I would say it was like leaning
Speaker 6: towards like cubash right.
Speaker 2: The Cuba wanted to make it to be New Cuba,
Speaker 2: like even Jamaica met with.
Speaker 6: There were a lot of support there and then the
Speaker 6: other personal So what happened was when now the gun
Speaker 6: trade begun for the destabilization.
Speaker 1: They even had a gun court.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because now you started flood the place with guns
Speaker 6: and cocaine. But this stabilization because they got to destabilize
Speaker 6: the country because of what's happening, because these people are
Speaker 6: worried about these people having this control because now you're
Speaker 6: messing with the horn, right, you're messing with the money
Speaker 6: run right. So if the if the Jamaicans become more
Speaker 6: this way, then you're tapping into the Russia people again
Speaker 6: where they're tapping into this thing, and then these people
Speaker 6: are starting to take too much control of this little
Speaker 6: home pry here.
Speaker 2: So that couldn't happen.
Speaker 3: So the KGB was and so yeah, that's the Russian,
Speaker 3: that's the you know, the mafia, the CIA.
Speaker 1: Yeah and all that that.
Speaker 6: This stabilization is when the violence begun in the early seventies,
Speaker 6: late late late late sixties. Now what was the two
Speaker 6: parties j LP, DPNP and JLP Jamaica Labor Right Party
Speaker 6: and the People's National Party. One color is orange and
Speaker 6: the other one is green. I grew up in a
Speaker 6: time where I live in a place called Spanish Town.
Speaker 6: I'll never forget this this when I know like a
Speaker 6: Spanish person is like in Spanish Town. So let me
Speaker 6: tell you something.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 6: I kind of knew, like my heart, like I kind
Speaker 6: of knew I was like a good person. I just know,
Speaker 6: I knew I was a good human being. I think
Speaker 6: I was like ten years old and I remember it's
Speaker 6: like it was like political times like very strong politics.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: So these people tourists, they were driving along this main
Speaker 6: road to get to like Montiga Bay, and if you
Speaker 6: did not put up the sign of which hard to
Speaker 6: you represented the people, they throwing stones at your car.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I remember watching.
Speaker 6: It, right, because that area was a labor right area
Speaker 6: and I live in the midst of everything, and I
Speaker 6: remember watching this, and I remember seeing the bridge and
Speaker 6: them throwing the stones, and I remember to my heart,
Speaker 6: I'm like, but those people don't know nothing, Like it's
Speaker 6: my little self.
Speaker 1: I'm like wow. So that's when I realized if people
Speaker 1: don't have no brain, they don't have they they don't
Speaker 1: know this is what is this? It don't make no sense,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what happened.
Speaker 6: And that's what the stabilized the country's guns and foolishness
Speaker 6: of politics. Because even when Marcus Garvey in the early times,
Speaker 6: when Marcus Garvey was running for prime minister of Jamaica,
Speaker 6: what they said caused him not to be the prime minister.
Speaker 6: They went and offered to Jamaican people free rice and peace.
Speaker 6: People love them, belly, it's never heard this one really
Speaker 6: rice and peas. So it was offering It's a big
Speaker 6: thing in Jamaican. This is Sunday Sunday. Every Jamaican and
Speaker 6: every Jamaican eat rice.
Speaker 1: Some peas on Sunday, right, rice and bes on chicken
Speaker 1: rice and be on this rice and bes on that.
Speaker 2: So it's a big thing. I've never been stuck for.
Speaker 2: By the way, who has the best rice and peas?
Speaker 2: Puerto Ricans Jamaicans? Hey, man, no, no.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you have rice and beans?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh ship damn good point. Good point. Did not realize
Speaker 1: that who still got the best?
Speaker 6: You know, when I go to Puerto Rico, I eat
Speaker 6: rice and beans, man, you know, you know when I'm
Speaker 6: in Jamaica, I eat rice and peas, man.
Speaker 1: So I never had them side by side. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: called up. Holy I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2: But listen, Haiti is not in the category Nodus bro
Speaker 2: bro I've been seeing because I'm ain't even trying to
Speaker 2: throw they they had in the ring with the rice
Speaker 2: and peace that got great rice and can't take somebody. Hey,
Speaker 2: let me tell somebody, ship Haiti.
Speaker 6: Now, Haiti, you see what there is a see cuisine
Speaker 6: wise because well not because off, but the mixture with
Speaker 6: the French.
Speaker 2: Ye see what I'm saying. But there's no there's no
Speaker 2: Haitian vegan food. Uh.
Speaker 6: First boys, Nico and my first daughter eat and Haitian.
Speaker 6: He come bar and pressure on viill Yeah.
Speaker 1: Eighties.
Speaker 2: Oh man, what's your favorite place to visit on your
Speaker 2: spirit time? Like? For what? For anything? Like I have
Speaker 2: different things I think about, Okay, for vacations, for vacation, vacation.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well you know I love the most. I love
Speaker 6: the ocean, you know, m So I like going places
Speaker 6: where from vacation. You said, not not that Sabbaticos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not right. Just to relax, relax and hang out.
Speaker 1: That's a big world. You want to ask you're going
Speaker 1: to meditating stuff? Good stuff? Well, like let me see, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, I love going to Roman beats.
Speaker 6: Of course I love that. This year I had a
Speaker 6: chance to visit Barbados. Barbatos, what's Brianna out there?
Speaker 1: Man? Rihattas is like she wasn't there, but you felt you.
Speaker 3: Know that, believe it.
Speaker 2: Even though I'm not to leave, believe whatever.
Speaker 1: He tells. I believe you call it bro no, but
Speaker 1: for sure we had us right like I was there.
Speaker 6: I was into the red us vibe because she put
Speaker 6: the place like from tourism perspective, it's, you know, people
Speaker 6: want to visit and because they want to see where
Speaker 6: she lived because it's very nice and the people love
Speaker 6: her so much.
Speaker 1: So I love, I love, I just first time going.
Speaker 6: There for like like some business thing like a finn
Speaker 6: They called it fintech like financial technology, some something good
Speaker 6: good stuff. So that that was out there a bunch
Speaker 6: of Caribbing people from Latin Americas, but they just got
Speaker 6: out of the British Yeah, yeah, yeah, the prime minister
Speaker 6: wanted is a prime minister know president right they broke away.
Speaker 2: From Yeah, everybody can't go independing now no, but it's
Speaker 2: it's some of these guys got what they major labels, man, Man, listen,
Speaker 2: Haiti's still fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: They were the first one.
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still like we don't know, we.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't suppers because we don't know if we should have.
Speaker 6: You know that, and there he has it. It's holding
Speaker 6: a lot of money. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: Port We go scratch our heads sometimes, like we don't
Speaker 2: know why we still on this major label. We definitely
Speaker 2: made your label, man, Cuba become free. We were coming.
Speaker 2: We're coming, broeh niggas you got some cube. Your mother's Cuban, right,
Speaker 2: she was born in Cuba.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I got a lot of Cuba family and you know
Speaker 6: my girlfriend and Cuban.
Speaker 2: I noticed you, he said, Cuban rice and peace.
Speaker 1: Though we don't say rice, and people say you don't
Speaker 1: you about food is good when I go to the house,
Speaker 1: when I go to the house of family, look me
Speaker 1: up nice.
Speaker 3: Honestly, the Caribbean food is pretty much the same thing, bro,
Speaker 3: We just call it different names.
Speaker 1: Well, this we all plans it.
Speaker 2: We like we all. Ma Marita is also Cuban. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you this.
Speaker 1: This is a big difference.
Speaker 2: Though. My son went to Cuba.
Speaker 1: Really he went to Cuban. Yeah, you didn't know that, oh,
Speaker 1: with your wife right right right? And he called me,
Speaker 1: he said, where's the w dad. There was no a
Speaker 1: c he did not it's not its on scrib right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I couldn't explain to my son the ag this is
Speaker 1: a few hotels everywhere, buddy, and he especially not a
Speaker 1: was country man.
Speaker 2: He didn't know.
Speaker 8: He had to learn that day to Cuba, right, and
Speaker 8: we booked the airbnb but I don't know where this
Speaker 8: is going.
Speaker 2: No, it's good, okay, but the family, the family was
Speaker 2: there too. I stayed with the family.
Speaker 1: So one of them.
Speaker 9: Let's go.
Speaker 1: I'm churning on the veranda. So I see the brethren
Speaker 1: pull up in a little bicycle and he got the bread.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, something like what Bridgin?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 6: I said, you know you got I said, what brigand doing?
Speaker 6: He said, Now you know they still do that where
Speaker 6: the partitioner of the food. Yeah, they still do that
Speaker 6: when they drive around and they give you a certain
Speaker 6: bag of food.
Speaker 1: Man. I was like, wow. Man. So but it was
Speaker 1: cool with being in Cuba and being able to see
Speaker 1: that the people they're amazing.
Speaker 6: You weren't living in It wasn't like that anymore. It
Speaker 6: was a balance. So you can still have that, but
Speaker 6: they still do, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 6: very nice. But if you want to see, like if
Speaker 6: you ever want to see some good culture man and
Speaker 6: some good some good architect gus go.
Speaker 1: To Cuba and the bubble and.
Speaker 2: Also proves the point that Latinos are of African descent.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's the culture that we have is all African descents.
Speaker 2: A place in Porto Rico like that, Louisa. You have
Speaker 2: ever been to Louisa. Louisa, everyone like I'm light skinned,
Speaker 2: insidered like, yeah, everyone is there, so it's Cuba.
Speaker 1: It's definitely. Yeah. You know something though, I'm one of
Speaker 1: those people were how about Columbia?
Speaker 2: My bad? I mean, I've been there, Like Columbia. I
Speaker 2: don't like to talk about it too much. Ship, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Look at the face the Columbia came up immediately he's
Speaker 2: telling him, No, Columbia too much.
Speaker 1: I actually went there for themselves. Is that what they
Speaker 1: call it?
Speaker 6: No, I'm barn from going to Columbia. Nothing nothing, nothing bad.
Speaker 6: That's things that could possibly happen. It happened, things that
Speaker 6: keep yourself out the way of trouble. Okay, So I
Speaker 6: tried to stay away from Columbia.
Speaker 2: Okay, you went to me, Yeah, is beautiful.
Speaker 1: But but when when I did visit. While I was there,
Speaker 1: I did go to like the Corona Communia thirteen, I
Speaker 1: went there, the Calera, Yes, the sites stay I visited.
Speaker 2: You know only two people I ever ragged about stairs No,
Speaker 2: because tell me we're really happy.
Speaker 10: No, no, right, no bragging. What we talked about it.
Speaker 1: There's the slums of.
Speaker 3: The higher you go into the mountain in the hills
Speaker 3: is the more poor it gets. What they did in
Speaker 3: this neighborhood, this neighborhood was violent as hell just long ago.
Speaker 1: But they put escalators so that they can have access
Speaker 1: to people in the slums down to the main area
Speaker 1: to just do regular things. I've never seen change their lives.
Speaker 1: Is in the graffitis everywhere. Beautiful graffiti, our colors, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean colors, like the buildings are beautiful. Everything is
Speaker 1: just beautiful there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of it.
Speaker 1: You walk up and down the steps, it's it's literally,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's escalators in the hood.
Speaker 2: Bro, it's a lot of walks beautiful, all right.
Speaker 1: He's going going to a tinky hut on the beach
Speaker 1: getting out.
Speaker 2: Listen. The other day, Diego was like, he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: my girl said I should go to Columbia.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't think we should.
Speaker 2: Were you suggested?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: If you've been to some bad things. Man, y'all going
Speaker 2: for different reasons. You don't say, y'all, I have not
Speaker 2: been to Columbia. O you my condo. I have fun.
Speaker 2: I didn't have the egle type of fun.
Speaker 1: But I had some fun.
Speaker 2: Man, then then life calm down, and then life calm down. Okay,
Speaker 2: beautiful people there, man getting back to sure sure please
Speaker 2: do please do? I always, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: I said it earlier, I always felt something attached to
Speaker 2: your father. And there's people to this day, right, there's
Speaker 2: people who see me who they see me on the internet,
Speaker 2: they have never met me before, and they and they'll
Speaker 2: come straight up to me and be like you'll know
Speaker 2: me and just start talking to me.
Speaker 1: And I realized this.
Speaker 2: Person is infatuated who who are over the fuck they
Speaker 2: see on the internet And they starts talking like if
Speaker 2: they know you, they have that for a minute they know,
Speaker 2: And then you gotta realize that this guy is psychotic.
Speaker 2: He does he knows he does he does because he's
Speaker 2: pointing out shit.
Speaker 1: He's like Episode sixteen. You remember this time. It's kind
Speaker 1: of what we signed up for though we can't.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what we signed up How many times
Speaker 2: are people coming up to you wanting to know stories
Speaker 2: about your father?
Speaker 1: I see?
Speaker 11: Really?
Speaker 6: Really you see something you see? Because I am I
Speaker 6: don't know because I I kind of walk wide, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's like I saw, like I'm all day like doing
Speaker 6: the same things all the time, so I don't pay attention.
Speaker 2: You know, we've seeing that commercial the most interesting guy
Speaker 2: on Earth, like your father was that guy.
Speaker 1: Man, it's interesting guy without trying were just heah yeah
Speaker 1: in facts shooh. You know, it's been all my life.
Speaker 1: That's why it'sn't about the burden. I didn't mean it
Speaker 1: in a battle. I'm just saying it's it's a big thing.
Speaker 6: No, but no, like what what Bro's saying in regards
Speaker 6: to like how many. I mean, you know it is
Speaker 6: it's like now, like you know, I did this yesterday,
Speaker 6: not like that, but it was another bop thing yesterday.
Speaker 1: And then when I was born, it was a Bop team.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's always been a Bop tam.
Speaker 6: It's like all your whole life, so you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, because especially all the money is yeah, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. Then as when being that he
Speaker 6: left earth when we were nine years old myself someone brothers, Wow, yeah,
Speaker 6: nine years old.
Speaker 2: He was thirty Yeah I said.
Speaker 1: I was ten.
Speaker 6: I was nine yet thirty six, wow, yeah, nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 6: I'm born in seventy two. So yeah, but when he
Speaker 6: left earth when we were nine years old, we had
Speaker 6: to learn from other people too, you know, and learn
Speaker 6: from his friends some of his things in Blasi Blasi.
Speaker 6: So it became like, I think that we love to
Speaker 6: talk about also because it's a remembrance and so we
Speaker 6: like to tell the stories about our dad too because
Speaker 6: not yeah, we love it. So it's like I can't
Speaker 6: even calculate it because it's like a fun thing, you know, like, yeah, man, Maama,
Speaker 6: you know something about her dad, you know, so if
Speaker 6: you know something, tell me what you know what?
Speaker 1: Tell me? We're intrigued like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's truly, truly was a prophet.
Speaker 1: He truly was like of this hearth, but not of
Speaker 1: this earth.
Speaker 6: Like but you see, go back to the christ consciousness
Speaker 6: thing again, where you know, like we say, like, you know,
Speaker 6: it's the same thing you say, Yeah, we're fleshical people,
Speaker 6: but we have a higher consciousness where we try to
Speaker 6: seek a higher way of life, and that way of
Speaker 6: life is coming out of this whole ether system, you know.
Speaker 6: So our father was able to tap that and unbeknownst
Speaker 6: to us, not knowing the meditation that he's dealing with
Speaker 6: and the vibration of these links we don't know, you know.
Speaker 6: So you know, the man they believe in greater existence,
Speaker 6: you know, believe that we all can unite, you know, truly,
Speaker 6: like that's like a truth, that's like a real it's
Speaker 6: a real thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: It's not like, oh, man, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, man,
Speaker 6: it can happen, you know, So you truly believe that
Speaker 6: and live that.
Speaker 2: And he was just.
Speaker 6: Connected to the source, and that's the same thing as
Speaker 6: we as human beings. Our goal is try to find
Speaker 6: the source and connect to it, you know. So we
Speaker 6: just and then that's how we get his majesty again
Speaker 6: because we as his children, I say, wait a minute,
Speaker 6: we got to find a root of that.
Speaker 1: And the root is Rastafar, right, so you know, so
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 6: A channeling and how because this great man is like
Speaker 6: you just talk about, yes, as Christ and the great
Speaker 6: humans that just walk this earth, it's like we channel that,
Speaker 6: We channel that energy. And then because we know it's
Speaker 6: real because our father, we see tap into that even
Speaker 6: just by how we walk. And that's the scent just
Speaker 6: like growing up and it's the scent of him. You know,
Speaker 6: like you know, a certain way and what he's connected
Speaker 6: to in just the way and what he is, you know,
Speaker 6: in regards to like growing up living next to the
Speaker 6: priests from the Inthuopian Orthodox Church because His Majesty sent
Speaker 6: them to Jamaica and they lived in the same yard
Speaker 6: that my father lived in. My father gave him residency,
Speaker 6: you know, so he took care of the church, you know.
Speaker 6: So it really it was a man like that connected
Speaker 6: the father said, and the Holy One, you know, is
Speaker 6: that really mine that desire that you know? So yeah,
Speaker 6: so like you say, you know, it's really talk, but
Speaker 6: you know, I want to sound like you know, trum
Speaker 6: my son, I believe the same thing you're saying. Bro,
Speaker 6: it's real, trust me. I remember I capp into that
Speaker 6: truth just like that. Yeah, because I remember having a
Speaker 6: conversation with Pun's son, right.
Speaker 2: And we're shooting the terminology videos, Terminology record me Pun's son,
Speaker 2: and term is on, and I remember me talking to
Speaker 2: pun Son and me talking to him if he was
Speaker 2: his father's friend, and me not realizing that this is
Speaker 2: Pun's son, and pun didn't really get to spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time what a sure. I remember me immediately saying.
Speaker 2: I was talking and I was just like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: because I'm talking to this shit about his father and
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, me and him do this, and I'm
Speaker 2: looking at him like holy shit. He doesn't really know,
Speaker 2: so you know what I mean, Like, is that something
Speaker 2: that you ever went through?
Speaker 5: Hmm?
Speaker 6: So as a young boy at nine years old in Jamaica, right,
Speaker 6: it's like you're fifteen and a man eighty, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying it, So we have spot memory like
Speaker 6: the times that we have with our father was you know,
Speaker 6: the times you know, and then you know and then
Speaker 6: it's like he lost some time. Actually, because even recently
Speaker 6: I had a dream of my dad recently and I
Speaker 6: don't really dream him that much vision him in my dream,
Speaker 6: you know. I think it's one of the first times
Speaker 6: I think, I'm not even sure, maybe two times in my.
Speaker 1: Life because you know how it is.
Speaker 6: It's not easy, you know, so we live it and
Speaker 6: meet within us, so you're like seeing yourself all the time.
Speaker 6: But like you say, it's it's really it's like just
Speaker 6: a way of life, man, and really trying to make
Speaker 6: sense of it, you know what I mean, Because it's magic, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's real magic. And to see it and being being
Speaker 6: around it, like wow, all right, because the mind is
Speaker 6: like an excellent type of being. You know, it's my
Speaker 6: father type of person that you walk in this room
Speaker 6: and you just jump over the table.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, like you drive like a superhero.
Speaker 2: So we see him like that.
Speaker 6: So when when the friends tell you the stories, he's like,
Speaker 6: he's the type of person like he walk in he
Speaker 6: walk in the house and you see you and the
Speaker 6: next minute you bring the boxing gloves.
Speaker 1: You know, wow, like circlub.
Speaker 2: So that's yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like I ever ever present. So we
Speaker 1: hear the stories.
Speaker 6: Because you know, as as sons, you look up to
Speaker 6: your father and you want to emulate your father. So
Speaker 6: he tried to find all the little things about him
Speaker 6: and learn as much as you can and then you know,
Speaker 6: try to extend that because at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: I'm fifty two years old this year. My father passed
Speaker 6: you when I'm thirty six, But I still see him
Speaker 6: as like WHOA, what a big man? And when you
Speaker 6: please my little brother today, you know, but I still
Speaker 6: look at him like wow, you know I still see him.
Speaker 6: Wow you think that is I think I see him
Speaker 6: still as that little nine year old. I think I
Speaker 6: don't know because I still when I look when I
Speaker 6: see a picture of my own my father, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I.
Speaker 6: We live in the present, right of course, so we
Speaker 6: will we you know, in your own mind, you kind
Speaker 6: of talk to yourself for how you would perceive a
Speaker 6: life with daddy today.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: But when I do see him, I don't see like
Speaker 6: I couldn't, like, I just see him as he's in
Speaker 6: these all the same pictures, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean. I don't vision him the other way?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because I heard jay Z
Speaker 2: say that his kids didn't think he was cool. Right,
Speaker 2: you couldn't have never had that problem. You always had
Speaker 2: the new was the coolest person on the player.
Speaker 1: Let let remember I'm young, so.
Speaker 6: It's like a lion, and I seem like a because
Speaker 6: he's the type of person when they talk to you
Speaker 6: cry like I'm the type of person.
Speaker 1: My day is over there. I'm over there, you know.
Speaker 3: So you.
Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know, I see him like a
Speaker 6: superhero bigger than life, like yeah, I when I'm seeing him,
Speaker 6: the scent of him, like you can't even he's the
Speaker 6: type of man like I remember one day he's in
Speaker 6: the studio session and I'm there late at the hopeful
Speaker 6: because i'm you know, I'm supposed to be home, but
Speaker 6: I end up staying over here.
Speaker 1: I'm late, and he's like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here, dad, you know here. So it's about
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe one o'clock or probably earlier, like
Speaker 6: twelve o'clock or something. So I go into the studio
Speaker 6: and you know, the studio of the glass here, and
Speaker 6: he's on the board up there.
Speaker 10: But you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't fall asleep. You can't fall asleep in the studio.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: That's my room too. You mean I got that from
Speaker 2: I know, I was great.
Speaker 1: You can't like on some weak stuff like you can't
Speaker 1: be there like bobbing and ship.
Speaker 2: That's so fucking flaw Holy shit, send.
Speaker 6: Me as a little boy. Now I'm sitting the tire
Speaker 6: and so I'm trying to kind of hide, but he
Speaker 6: see me through the glass. It says, hey, boy, go upstairs.
Speaker 6: So I go upstairs now, and I'm laying in my
Speaker 6: dad's bed because you know it's just his he got
Speaker 6: his bed is in the office, his studio, pressing plan.
Speaker 1: Everything is right there, you know, his whole system.
Speaker 6: So I'm sleeping, you know, my father probably come upstairs
Speaker 6: like five thirty am.
Speaker 1: Hey boy, get up to wash your feet. That's yeah.
Speaker 6: So you see him like like when you it's like,
Speaker 6: oh no, you know what I mean, it's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 6: you know, you seem like it's whatever you're gonna do
Speaker 6: is like magic. And the stories you hear about him,
Speaker 6: it's like the you know, you do magical things. My
Speaker 6: uncle will tell you here in Miami because I'm in
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy six. It's when my family move here in Miami.
Speaker 6: But my dad had a renegade, a jeep. My uncle
Speaker 6: will tell you. You know, sometime he drives the cheap
Speaker 6: and he come into the yard. She is like on
Speaker 6: one wheel. The way he fucking turned that he's He's like,
Speaker 6: you can't believe the things. You can't leave the things
Speaker 6: that they tell you. Man, the stories, it's like it's crazy,
Speaker 6: like a real superhero. So we see our father as
Speaker 6: a superhero, like and we tried to you is a superhero. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So we're like that's the way, like the smell, that's
Speaker 6: the way he smelled. You know, things he eats. How
Speaker 6: he You know, you don't want to when you're young,
Speaker 6: you don't want none.
Speaker 10: That ship.
Speaker 1: Be ruit Irish Moss. You know a lot of I
Speaker 1: tell food. Notice we we dumpling. Well, he was super
Speaker 1: disciplined in that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, But.
Speaker 1: Sometime you know he's he'll take you to Kentucky Chicken
Speaker 1: winter time Sundays.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna change it up a little bit. Once made
Speaker 2: the mistake right me personally, a bike riding with a
Speaker 2: famous NFL football player named Warren sat Now, we'll go
Speaker 2: on these bike rides with Warren stack two three times
Speaker 2: a week. I realized he was crazy. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: how crazy he was. One day he goes, fuck these
Speaker 2: bitch ass wires. We take it, Norrie, Let's go to
Speaker 2: the South Beach. I don't take him serious, but I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: We go into Sunny House. I realized, Oh, he's really
Speaker 2: going to South beat. I can't bitch out or you
Speaker 2: cross the bridge. Oh he's a maniac.
Speaker 1: By the way, Warren Savage my friend, so I can
Speaker 1: say this. He has never left the game. He's still
Speaker 1: on the field. He was blocking for me.
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm feeling like I got a fucking football. You're
Speaker 9: running back. He's coping in front of the trucks.
Speaker 2: I sweter, go, swearter, I'm not as you read. An
Speaker 2: Amazon truck pulled up on the side of us, and
Speaker 2: he went like this. He hit the Amazon truck. This
Speaker 2: ship shaped.
Speaker 1: The two Amazon drivers come out, They're like yo, and
Speaker 1: then they see this water on Saturday. Fuck that.
Speaker 2: They turned the funking around. I'm looking. Warren is the
Speaker 2: man in the streets. I'm on the bike. I'm out
Speaker 2: of my league here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I do not belong here, but I can't turn back.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: Different kind of bike ride, and I.
Speaker 2: Don't got no charge you because it's an electric bike
Speaker 2: and the electric is not working. I got no electric bike. Yeah,
Speaker 2: snow listen, and just we're gonna do nine hundred miles.
Speaker 2: The electric don't count. So we're going. We're going, and
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, let's stop for a pier.
Speaker 1: What a beer?
Speaker 2: I like this bike ride. We wind up in your house.
Speaker 2: She look, we want to live in your house.
Speaker 1: I walked in his credit.
Speaker 2: I don't understand. I didn't. I didn't remember that y'all
Speaker 2: went to school together. I didn't remember y'all my.
Speaker 1: Best friend I remember that, so I'm like, you am.
Speaker 2: But by the way, if you didn't lived it, I
Speaker 2: would have died.
Speaker 10: It was out of everything.
Speaker 2: Like this guy's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, he's working out.
Speaker 1: To go through traffic and it's not my ship.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to just waiting over your head, trying to
Speaker 2: fucking go fucking after the Super Bowl, trying to.
Speaker 1: Bike man somewhere.
Speaker 2: He's training for my head with him. So he's like, yo,
Speaker 2: let's go sweating. He's like, let's go to I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find your number to be like you
Speaker 2: just finally.
Speaker 1: Excuse supposed to stay.
Speaker 2: You'll thank you. I kid, you not warm. You listen,
Speaker 2: if you're not ready to work out with a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, I want to get you incredible. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: He's incredible because he's not gonna let you stop.
Speaker 2: He's incredible.
Speaker 1: That we went to your house. From your house, we
Speaker 1: drank beers. I was like, I was like, yoh, yeah,
Speaker 1: my battery was about to die.
Speaker 2: I was using any excuse I call my wife like like,
Speaker 2: I was like, come and get me. You're kid pro
Speaker 2: It was not funny. I was like, I say he
Speaker 2: was abusing man. I was like, why.
Speaker 10: I come?
Speaker 2: I come? The next I was, I came, like like
Speaker 2: why the electric left the Then first off, we went
Speaker 2: to Prome one twelve drank and we went impact and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not really big like this.
Speaker 1: When you drink more prime.
Speaker 2: I couldn't say no, do you understand? It's like I
Speaker 2: just like exercise. I felt like he was going to
Speaker 2: be like, shut the fuck okay. I was like, yes,
Speaker 2: I was out of war is a crazy one. I
Speaker 2: seen him last night. Oh my god, yeah you know,
Speaker 2: I promise you.
Speaker 6: Warren Sapp is probably one of the smartest human meat
Speaker 6: that I have ever met in my life. This guy
Speaker 6: is so intelligent, like bio biologically, geographically, philosophically.
Speaker 2: No one was football like this guy.
Speaker 1: No one.
Speaker 6: He taught me about like American politics, like he taught
Speaker 6: me American history. He taught me so much about American
Speaker 6: culture and here in America like when.
Speaker 2: You first moved all the time, like all the time,
Speaker 2: Like his history is play football, yeah, but his his knowledge,
Speaker 2: man is this man.
Speaker 6: Teaches me so much about American history. Like just like
Speaker 6: he's so intelligent. Bro, it's well read well.
Speaker 1: Like this guy. You you can't increase this. You can't.
Speaker 1: I'm in college. I want we were roommates.
Speaker 6: Walked in the door, I walked into well, we didn't
Speaker 6: have a dot and apartment.
Speaker 1: It's you, am, but it's on campus.
Speaker 2: That's right. Apartments from Miami Ship real chilling, score gables.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 2: Pole in here.
Speaker 1: Something I don't know in my mind. The seven ninth
Speaker 1: Street we went.
Speaker 2: Let me say this anyway.
Speaker 1: I walk in the dorm, I mean the apartment I
Speaker 1: open and Sap is there watching Jeopardy. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: watch this ship. This motherfucker's answering all the question. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do you know that ship?
Speaker 6: Intelligent motherfucker part of my friends, but super intelligent and
Speaker 6: as well as a dominant like athlete.
Speaker 1: This man.
Speaker 6: You won't find him just sitting around. He's fishing all
Speaker 6: the time, riding the bicycle, diving.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, by the way, he's diving, grabbing the fish
Speaker 2: under water, the fish with the fucking thing. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. He's down there and keep with you, quit,
Speaker 2: quit and quit, want.
Speaker 3: No more.
Speaker 1: Right now? Big up to him too.
Speaker 2: He does. He's not working with coach on sand Let
Speaker 2: me tell you something let me tell you something. If
Speaker 2: you never rode in a bike lane and he was
Speaker 2: slow in the bike lane, or you walked in the
Speaker 2: bike lane, Warren Sap is he come up on you
Speaker 2: like this, cout the fuck out the bike like, yo,
Speaker 2: let me tell you something. The whole ballwalk moves out
Speaker 2: his way. It's like they got a time that he knows.
Speaker 2: They know he come through.
Speaker 1: You know the bike lan. You know you know why
Speaker 1: he knows the law. You know he's actually correct. If
Speaker 1: you're going to wait, he'll yell at you like you're
Speaker 1: going the wrong way.
Speaker 6: He's like one of them type of guys where he's
Speaker 6: like strictly law of biting, Like he's proper, Like you
Speaker 6: can't be walking in the bike lan.
Speaker 1: You know you got the right to be. You see
Speaker 1: the sign.
Speaker 2: But the first time I met him, we was at
Speaker 2: a restaurant and he had a sign I swear to
Speaker 2: guard in front of him that said.
Speaker 1: Don't feed the animals. I don't know what that ship meant.
Speaker 2: When I stayed clear away from that ship, I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: how you doing, Borro Sap.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was scared to death. He's a
Speaker 1: good guy. He's a good guy.
Speaker 6: But he's he's really like always himself proper, you know,
Speaker 6: but he's always but you know what growing up like
Speaker 6: how we grew up and thing and all the things
Speaker 6: that people took advantage of, you know, some of his situations,
Speaker 6: he became very defensive of his circle and who he
Speaker 6: lets into his space, because you know, when when you're
Speaker 6: just living your life and you end up in a situation.
Speaker 1: What I mean, I mean, I thought we were just
Speaker 1: hanging out.
Speaker 2: How come it led to that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: And then so them things them turned them guys into
Speaker 6: more like like especially so big too, like he don't like,
Speaker 6: you know, he don't.
Speaker 1: Know who's who anymore knows.
Speaker 2: A Miami guy. He's a Miami gud. Like everything about
Speaker 2: Warren is Miami cut him. He bleeds green.
Speaker 1: Well, we do believe I am also orange and gray yourself,
Speaker 1: I also please orange and green. So be careful because
Speaker 1: he played for of Riders right, not in the CFL,
Speaker 1: in the c played in Miami. Not football, not not
Speaker 1: not football.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you about my limitated times I played. Okay,
Speaker 6: so I played here at the high school, promic Senior
Speaker 6: high school.
Speaker 1: Big up to, big up to, big up to.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay one our district district chimps. I was a linebacker.
Speaker 6: I got a full scholarship at the University of Miami.
Speaker 1: Wow. I was red shirted my my.
Speaker 6: Next year as a fifth fleeting tackle on the team.
Speaker 6: I played the outside linebacker fifty tackling team my sophomore year.
Speaker 2: Since the call right now, the fantasy what is it
Speaker 2: but under that underdog fantasy fantasy.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I led the team in tackles as a
Speaker 6: defensive player linebacker and then the rough Riders you're talking about.
Speaker 6: I went to the CFL because I was kind of
Speaker 6: ineligible to go to the NFL just because of.
Speaker 2: My rude ways. So I got it.
Speaker 1: I became ineligible. I was like a little I wasn't
Speaker 1: particularly like just do what you tell me type of
Speaker 1: guy I got in trouble. Wasn't na Ganja, never that.
Speaker 1: It was more like, why you talk to me?
Speaker 2: You see? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So then a fire, you know, I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: talk to me certain ways.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of like, oh, he's uncoachable. Not uncoachable,
Speaker 6: you just can't talk to me like that. I'm growing,
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, I just that's landing. So it
Speaker 6: did it did affect my ways. But my son Nico,
Speaker 6: he got a full ride to Tulane. He actually he
Speaker 6: actually played the whole preseasons for the Redskins. So at
Speaker 6: Tulane he's like the top leading tackler, top twenty in
Speaker 6: their history, number one and then tagus for loss. He
Speaker 6: became a great linebacker, so he superseded what I wanted
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 6: So my children are better than me, obviously, all of them,
Speaker 6: So I love that. But yes, I was a linebacker
Speaker 6: and ray Lewis was my middle linebacker. Warn't Stop was
Speaker 6: my d line So I played them here. So I
Speaker 6: taught ray Lewis what a team.
Speaker 2: I can say that and he would lock it up.
Speaker 1: But obviously, absolutely that's how it works.
Speaker 6: If you, if you, if if if if if I
Speaker 6: walk in before you and you walk in and see
Speaker 6: me sitting there, who are you learning from? But that's
Speaker 6: just how it is, because I'm the man when we
Speaker 6: walked up in that school, I'm the man, and I'm
Speaker 6: the best linebacker I ever played at University of Miami.
Speaker 1: Sir Ray, It's the thing we have.
Speaker 6: But obviously Leary Lewis is the greatest linebacker ever played
Speaker 6: the game. But but in college, in college, we're talking
Speaker 6: about college. We're not talking about the world. Were just
Speaker 6: talking about you. So we're gonna put that up. We're
Speaker 6: gonna put that up.
Speaker 1: Man in mano.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you what do you call soccer? I still
Speaker 2: call it soccer.
Speaker 1: You know, it depends who I am and depends on
Speaker 1: my moons. I still call it soccer, like it depends
Speaker 1: on to.
Speaker 2: Stay in the hotel in Italy and you said it
Speaker 2: was like what fucking American?
Speaker 1: I was like Jesus, like, they took it by the
Speaker 1: way to the hotel.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody could google this and send
Speaker 2: me the link. It was a soccer hotel. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: everywhere you went it was TVs. Playing soccer. I was
Speaker 2: freaked the funk out.
Speaker 1: That's your later on I'm talking about in the elevators.
Speaker 1: It's like everyone a TV big game, big probably a
Speaker 1: big game, but that I grew up playing that.
Speaker 2: That's my sport. But you know what what you better
Speaker 2: at soccer or football? American? Well?
Speaker 6: You see for me, you know, I never became what
Speaker 6: I wanted to become. As an athlete, I'm a failure
Speaker 6: and as a I want to be a pro. I
Speaker 6: really want to be a pro one of these things.
Speaker 1: I tried sports either.
Speaker 6: I tried American football, but I wasn't disciplined enough. Then
Speaker 6: no track and fail. You know what when I you
Speaker 6: won't believe this. I actually in my high school, I
Speaker 6: have the record for the four by one hundred relay.
Speaker 1: I'm a part of that team. So I had some speed.
Speaker 1: I did the high jump. Yeah, I did the high jump.
Speaker 2: That was my thing. So that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 2: So I played that.
Speaker 1: I did basketball.
Speaker 2: I played that.
Speaker 1: We don't believe you in a basketball tip at all.
Speaker 1: We don't believe that.
Speaker 2: Football.
Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to be an athlete.
Speaker 6: You know if I failed at being an athlete, I
Speaker 6: really did. And I remember the day when I realized
Speaker 6: that I couldn't be an athlete anymore. It wasn't I
Speaker 6: had to give up on my dream. Because after college,
Speaker 6: I went to be a roadie with my brothers because
Speaker 6: I wanted to be amongst my brothers. So I was
Speaker 6: a roadie, you know, I was like, you know then
Speaker 6: I was trying to learn to be that. Then things
Speaker 6: happened and some other things in life took place. Then
Speaker 6: I went to Jamaica, and I tried out for the
Speaker 6: Jamaica national team. I want to be a soccer player,
Speaker 6: so I was working my way up to like the
Speaker 6: club I made the Premier League. One of the teams.
Speaker 2: Let you go through, because you know, they don't do that.
Speaker 1: They don't do that, they don't a bit hard all
Speaker 1: they even know who I am. You probably wanted it
Speaker 1: that way, but yeah, and then again they look at
Speaker 1: me like, oh, oh, you play American football. You don't
Speaker 1: know nothing about this. So obviously I got to prove
Speaker 1: a double prove. And then again I am Bob's son.
Speaker 1: Then again, I'm a little older than everyone else. Not everyone,
Speaker 1: but I'm a little older because I went to college.
Speaker 1: And so I'm like writing like that prime age, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's a young youth thing. So I was trying.
Speaker 6: My dream was to play for Jamaica. I didn't make
Speaker 6: it to play for Jamaica. Tore my hamstring. Then I
Speaker 6: moved to Miami. Then I moved to Los Angeles and
Speaker 6: that's when I got into business. And my brother, this
Speaker 6: is when I got into business. My brother, Ziggy, he
Speaker 6: asked me a question one day. He says, you know,
Speaker 6: let me ask you something. What do you want to do,
Speaker 6: you know, business or football? Because I thought that after
Speaker 6: I rehabilitated myself, I was going to move to LA
Speaker 6: and try out for LA Galaxy.
Speaker 1: That's what that's going to find. The way I met
Speaker 1: one of the guys, that's how I do things. I
Speaker 1: meet a guy in the coffee shop. Hey man you
Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, Hey, how I get a tryout?
Speaker 2: Can you? That's how I do it.
Speaker 1: It's not like some Marley thing. I gotta go. That's
Speaker 1: how I That's how it works as an athlete. It's
Speaker 1: not singing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He's singing.
Speaker 6: So but my brother asked me a question and says, listen, man,
Speaker 6: I see something. It's gonna cost you eight thousand dollars
Speaker 6: to do this collection you want. I was designing tough
Speaker 6: gun clothing at the time, so he said, business or football.
Speaker 6: I gotta make a choice. So in my mind, I
Speaker 6: think I'm gonna like thirty one years old. So I
Speaker 6: started to think about, like right then not to make
Speaker 6: a decision. But what made me think even faster was like, listen,
Speaker 6: I'm fucking too old. These motherfuckers they're gonna bench me.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be frustrated. They're gonna be some young motherfucker there.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go through this frustration again right thinking
Speaker 6: I'm better than the guy playing, and I'm gonna go
Speaker 6: through that all over again as I can't. As I
Speaker 6: can't go through it again, I'm like, I did that,
Speaker 6: you know, I did? You know that sports is like that, man,
Speaker 6: So I had to choose business. And that's when I
Speaker 6: became an entrepreneur. With that ultimatum right there from my
Speaker 6: brother Ziggy, and that's from like Tough On Clothing starring
Speaker 6: Marley Coffee, Romary Beach House. I got my own cannabis
Speaker 6: company out line order that you know. It's out of Michigan,
Speaker 6: Detroit there, So I'm doing that. So I'm doing a
Speaker 6: lot of things. And then for my family, I'm kind
Speaker 6: of like the brand ambassador kind of business development for
Speaker 6: the family. We have House of Marley where we have
Speaker 6: the headphones and everything Marley Family. I'm kind of like
Speaker 6: one of the guys in regards to the business side,
Speaker 6: so not so much music, but all of the like
Speaker 6: extended products like these art goods or whatever we have here,
Speaker 6: some of these things, but these things are lying order.
Speaker 6: What you see me like to show off lie in order.
Speaker 6: That's that's my thing, lieing order. Okay, that's the brand.
Speaker 2: We see the ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just a black lion. The black client
Speaker 1: is a king's right, So just we're the black client.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: We also see that automar perpetual too. We also see
Speaker 2: that too, sir. Yes, that's nice.
Speaker 1: Let we talk about Root's luxury, like like the time,
Speaker 1: and we like to tell a good time.
Speaker 2: I'm taking that your publisher, I get your publisher, you get,
Speaker 2: all right? All right, okay, so you want to introduce yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, We're gonna give you two choices. We're gonna
Speaker 2: run down the list. You pick one, we don't drink.
Speaker 2: This is a drinking game, all right, but if you
Speaker 2: say both. If you don't pick one, basically we're drinking if.
Speaker 1: If I don't get one, so I gotta be truthful,
Speaker 1: right yeah, if you say one, then nobody drinking. And
Speaker 1: then you know we want to tell story, all right,
Speaker 1: you can tell anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the choice. So this is what kind of game is.
Speaker 2: It's called quick time. It's lone, but it's never quit.
Speaker 2: I gotta be fast. No no, no, no, it's just fast.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we're going to start the first Oneac or d
Speaker 2: M X.
Speaker 6: Tupac just because of you know, you know what, it's
Speaker 6: not fair to ask some of these questions to me
Speaker 6: because I'm always I'm always about that, Like the older
Speaker 6: person is gonna get the upper hand, right, So I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go. I'm gonna go Tupac for age preference not
Speaker 6: necessarily competitive in regards to it, the.
Speaker 1: Better lyrics better whatever, nothing to do with that strictly
Speaker 1: on age.
Speaker 2: So Tupac, okay, rings or bony again, it just.
Speaker 1: Jumps out of me.
Speaker 3: What elder statesman and that these are truth? But in
Speaker 3: what capacity? Like it's whatever, it's for you, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: They could be a personal connection, could be the music,
Speaker 3: It could be anything.
Speaker 1: Wow are you can say? You can say both? And
Speaker 1: we got.
Speaker 11: The shot ye shots drink chips Okay, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Like this one. Naves Naves or jay Z your brother
Speaker 2: got the album with nas. Let's not forget no, Dad,
Speaker 2: I just waited you you you getting sucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm drunk there we drinks jumps some drunk. I can't
Speaker 1: think straight. I can't think z. You know, in life
Speaker 1: you have relationships. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2: People say sounds like we're taking another shot.
Speaker 1: This is this is not right. Whoa that ship?
Speaker 2: That ship?
Speaker 6: They will frighten you that fucking the horn. It's like
Speaker 6: taking mushrooms. It's just like mushrooms.
Speaker 2: This is my drink.
Speaker 1: Chams are drunk chat. So you know we're gonna go with.
Speaker 4: Jay Z.
Speaker 1: Let me go board just for cheer.
Speaker 2: This one is a good one. Oh yeah, this is
Speaker 2: by the way, I just wanted to let you know,
Speaker 2: we don't do it. Don't make it. It's the Colorbia
Speaker 2: and Dominicans right over there. You know they make up
Speaker 2: these questions. The Columbia right there and the Dominican right there.
Speaker 2: What they do is they study you.
Speaker 6: Let me let me make something clear here, okay, because
Speaker 6: I'm because I'm an, I just want to make.
Speaker 1: This truly clear. Very let's be clear. You see me
Speaker 1: with my locks and.
Speaker 6: Everything on, so you know me, I'm a RASTAFARII but
Speaker 6: be clear on this. I'm an entrepreneur, that's right. So
Speaker 6: I do a lot of taste testing. See where you go, uh,
Speaker 6: spend some time in Jamaica and the knefield. You know,
Speaker 6: they they had a rum. So I did a taste test.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna call this a taste testing exactly what
Speaker 6: it is. Don't don't, don't think there's something regular. This
Speaker 6: is a taste testing. Taste test? What do we taste
Speaker 6: testing here?
Speaker 1: What is this? This is got some right?
Speaker 2: That's okay?
Speaker 1: All right, well, I hope I'm gonna answer all these
Speaker 1: other questions.
Speaker 2: Because we're not on It's not for my health. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start picking answers here. Ready, Yes, you got a
Speaker 2: super cat or Sean Paul Battle?
Speaker 1: All right, super Cat? Right now, I'm going like age.
Speaker 1: I'm not going age first, so remember that you got it,
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: Let me take this one because I got a record.
Speaker 1: I love the guys the way if I drink, if
Speaker 1: I say one, no one drinks. No one drinks.
Speaker 2: Wait so wait, well y'all, wait, this is not fair.
Speaker 10: You're too small.
Speaker 1: But if you say both and neither, we drink. Drink No,
Speaker 1: there has to be a time. Okay, we drink like
Speaker 1: drinking like that has to be there has to be
Speaker 1: some scenario. Yes, were you fellas man? Okay, don't drink me.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going figure this out, but let's just move
Speaker 2: on from now.
Speaker 1: Bounty Killer O Beadie Man you guys watch versus Yeah,
Speaker 1: who did y'all choose?
Speaker 2: And we chose we chose to. I mean, you get
Speaker 2: the police out of there when the police showed up,
Speaker 2: said police, fin get out of the yard.
Speaker 1: I think bounty.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go both.
Speaker 10: Go they both.
Speaker 1: I can't remember Jamaica run. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He said both.
Speaker 1: He said both. Wait, wait, he said, twisting me up.
Speaker 7: Out.
Speaker 2: Hey man, you can drink some roots right here. This
Speaker 2: is what I'm drinking. This is all right, fine, let
Speaker 2: me let me do this. I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win for real, all right. Next one is yeah,
Speaker 1: shot us of belly you. I know what. That's easy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shot this. Yeah, you're gone too far. Now,
Speaker 1: you're gone gone. Next one should be easy loved in
Speaker 1: in Miami, Miami. Yeah, that should have been easy.
Speaker 2: Have been easier.
Speaker 1: Come on, what do you mean just just came from
Speaker 1: now then I'm here in Miami now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big up?
Speaker 5: What else?
Speaker 1: What I say?
Speaker 2: Yes? And the police still don't got London?
Speaker 1: In London they got guns now they do upgraded. I
Speaker 1: think they got guns now, bro ship, I didn't see
Speaker 1: any police.
Speaker 2: Because they got drill rap. They got drill rap rap
Speaker 2: over here too, Yeah, police got guns all right? The
Speaker 2: next one, I can't see you. Ok, this is me,
Speaker 2: but I think I think he might be. Let's figure
Speaker 2: it out. Jerk chicken or carry chicken, he jerry, he said,
Speaker 2: they went to let me see how I get y'all
Speaker 2: to drink. Now, let me I'm gonna drink. This one answers,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I got you. He's like, I'm gonna get you.
Speaker 2: But this this is a very chicken jerk chicken or yeah,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: When I was young, because.
Speaker 6: You don't have a jerk pan at your house, right,
Speaker 6: you don't have a jerk pan, So it's like it's a.
Speaker 1: Pan that's just what you just stays this just to
Speaker 1: make the jerk. It's tough.
Speaker 6: This is a you know what if you don't find
Speaker 6: the right guy when this is when I'm young, because
Speaker 6: if you don't jerk the chicken certain way, it hurts
Speaker 6: your belly.
Speaker 1: And we know what happen when you hurt your belly.
Speaker 1: But because curry chicken, no, it's so many yet, like
Speaker 1: for dinner at your house, so we're not for goo
Speaker 1: with curry chicken. I didn't even though I don't eat chicken.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 6: That's because as a youth. I'm not talking now. I'm
Speaker 6: not saying when I was young how to eat curt
Speaker 6: because that's why I ate more. I hate a lot
Speaker 6: of curry chicken. Man, that's what cook for dinner.
Speaker 2: You know. I just got to ask you this, if
Speaker 2: you ever ate the coconuts out here in Hollandale, what
Speaker 2: was it? Mayor Mark? They got? They got vegan. I
Speaker 2: thought you meant the fruit. No, no, no, no coconuts.
Speaker 2: I want to find out. It's my spot. I want
Speaker 2: to find out is it really into the yard? Mancos
Speaker 2: on it?
Speaker 1: And then I sell something, y'all ink and water? Are
Speaker 1: you taking shots? Were drinking?
Speaker 2: Because you never had coconuts?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: You never had being. I just feel like i've seen
Speaker 2: you there something Maybe maybe hey, maybe maybe may the
Speaker 2: store is a real yard. Yeah yeah, okay, good food,
Speaker 2: great food. Maybe I should maybe give me the address.
Speaker 2: I like to excuse I love coconuts. I haven't been
Speaker 2: in a while. Still order this is this is this
Speaker 2: is an easy one for you. Reggae or reggae throng. Good?
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I got cuman girlfriend, man, man, we got reggaeton, reggae, reggae, reggae, reggae, reggae.
Speaker 2: Reggae based upon me, Okay, just me in general, Biggie
Speaker 2: or big L Biggie or who big L.
Speaker 1: Big big L?
Speaker 2: Who's big L?
Speaker 1: We could move on there, maybe I know arlam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: showing the court down with camera on them original.
Speaker 6: I'm not good at that. Okay, I'm not I'm going
Speaker 6: from that. I mean, I'm not good at that one.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm in college, man, I'm like, I'm a football player, bro,
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm not even thinking about this stuff. You
Speaker 6: know what we played when I was in college, them
Speaker 6: boys from Texas.
Speaker 2: They used to play.
Speaker 6: Ghetto boys, ghetto boy and the big album was when
Speaker 6: Drake Chronic Chronic first and then when Stoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: That was like yeah, that was like an album.
Speaker 6: Like everyone was like you got I remember chasing, I
Speaker 6: remember driving to places just to get that album.
Speaker 1: So just so because in my college that was a culture.
Speaker 1: Ghetto boys.
Speaker 2: Saw me. Yeah you got the next three, go for it.
Speaker 2: Cap Sizzler was this what kind of questions is a
Speaker 2: trick question? You know, it's been question came to the
Speaker 2: sil question. That's a trick question, give my give my shot.
Speaker 2: I like, I like the shot I do. I line
Speaker 2: up a mixed no problem we're doing, don't go both? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Look answer boat.
Speaker 1: Wow, y'all foul for this one, bro? You putting the
Speaker 1: family against each other? All right?
Speaker 12: Stephen Morner, Damien Marning, that's the yeah.
Speaker 1: I came in here on one love.
Speaker 2: A shot.
Speaker 1: You we got?
Speaker 2: You know what, y'all did everything shot like that, y'all.
Speaker 2: You know what you're gonna make you listen, you said
Speaker 2: it earlier. It got to be us around with. It's
Speaker 2: just us.
Speaker 1: Based on disrespect.
Speaker 2: Right about that?
Speaker 1: That was respectful? Oh?
Speaker 2: I like this one. Yell in trouble man. We're talking
Speaker 2: your pay crazy Marcus Garvey or Malcolm X.
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, all right, so Malcolm X is born. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: I'm born on Malcolm X birthday May nineteen, whereas we
Speaker 6: so obviously I love Malcolm X. But growing up I
Speaker 6: learn more about Marcus Garvey as a Jamaican and it's
Speaker 6: when I came to America, really I started learning a
Speaker 6: lot about Malcolm X, you know, and you know that
Speaker 6: just for myself. So it'd be like Marcus Garvey just
Speaker 6: because of popularity and the movement to rastify a movement,
Speaker 6: and those all the things I've said before. You know,
Speaker 6: I've read his books and such, not a lot of
Speaker 6: his books. I'm not going front, but I've read some stuff.
Speaker 2: So Marcus Garvey, okay, patech or a protect believe.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sound French and ship. I'm assuming this
Speaker 1: is with them all. I don't know nothing about you.
Speaker 2: Make it material, don't make you watch Apple watch.
Speaker 1: I mean they have choices like that because most of
Speaker 1: my things are gifts.
Speaker 2: Okay, so.
Speaker 1: Both both we're drinking drinking majesty where patch you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm we're in the other stuff.
Speaker 4: So you're slipping on your You were supposed to tell
Speaker 4: me that I'm offended, he WROTEXT.
Speaker 1: We got to step it up, Yes, sir, drink to that.
Speaker 2: A lot. Luther had a lot of Rolexes, Lucy Kings
Speaker 2: or Helly Selassie. What you say, mar Luther King or
Speaker 2: Helly Selassie.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as you know.
Speaker 7: Drink.
Speaker 1: Shot shot that is called not as disrespectful of this world? Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to go to like who even dare even
Speaker 1: mentioned these things? Dead friends or public enemy? Wow? Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Wow, geesh.
Speaker 6: This time because I'm you know, m one and those
Speaker 6: are great Chuck d dig And then, you know, growing
Speaker 6: up like my brothers, you know, being in music, you end.
Speaker 1: Up meeting everyone on the side, you know, on the
Speaker 1: side on the side, Guy, that's my brother.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: So they're like an extension of each other like that
Speaker 6: press back. But then, but that press used to come
Speaker 6: down to Jamaica in the early time, you know.
Speaker 1: So I met them in Jamaica. Actually, how could I
Speaker 1: be that when they didn't Jamaica.
Speaker 6: Yah, so you kind of like I have an affinity
Speaker 6: to them too, you know. And then and one again
Speaker 6: is region you know, and one is ready you know
Speaker 6: what I mean? Boy, we have to go both.
Speaker 1: That, we have to do both. I see what we're
Speaker 1: I see what we're going with this. Can we do
Speaker 1: a hey, where's it?
Speaker 2: We have a tester?
Speaker 1: We testing cant that from migos.
Speaker 2: He tried, he tried to. Oh yeah, they tried to think. Fine,
Speaker 2: you can bring your diamont. We give you our links.
Speaker 2: Now today, you know what, it's a hard string day.
Speaker 2: And today is my dad's birthday. You know, that's what
Speaker 2: that's what's crazy is I've been seeing you for years
Speaker 2: and I've always wanted to give you your flowers, always
Speaker 2: want to tell you, you know, and yesterday I forget
Speaker 2: exactly what happened. And then we was like, I said, yo,
Speaker 2: can we push it? And then they say, you know what,
Speaker 2: it's Bob Margy's birthday tomorrow, And I was like, if
Speaker 2: that's not divide, It's like, like, how the day that I.
Speaker 1: Can give you your thank you for joining to give
Speaker 1: you your flowers, it's on the day because you could
Speaker 1: have been like, no, it's my PAP's birthday. Because I
Speaker 1: love this show too, godam like you.
Speaker 2: I watched you want to give No, we want to
Speaker 2: give you your flowers, switching because because nah, you really
Speaker 2: deserve this man. Like you know, there's so many people
Speaker 2: you know, uh this air what they say, the heir
Speaker 2: to the throne, you know what I mean? So the
Speaker 2: heir to the throne, right, there's so many people who don't,
Speaker 2: who don't succeed to to fulfill or try to fulfill
Speaker 2: to another great man's shoes, and to do it in
Speaker 2: your way and to do it where you comfortable. Like
Speaker 2: you said, your man, I don't really mess with the
Speaker 2: music like that. But I'm on the business and everything else,
Speaker 2: like honest way of doing it, and this is your
Speaker 2: way of being I and I being and you're doing
Speaker 2: it man, like I kid you not. From Angela Yee
Speaker 2: to everybody, they always just say, oh man, you know
Speaker 2: every time they get they want to go to your
Speaker 2: hotel and support you and be like And there's so
Speaker 2: many great people that so biger my man, Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: Man. A lot of people don't know. I love Chris Jones.
Speaker 2: His father's famous as fun. Yeah, so I know, y'all.
Speaker 2: Could it's just a shot just standing arout there. I
Speaker 2: gotta take it. It's just a shot I got one day.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to give me flowers.
Speaker 1: Man, you guys get one that's standing out there, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the one that's on the question stuff. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: again's not gonna bring me.
Speaker 2: Into your.
Speaker 1: Keep the flowers over here. Okay, Next one, Yeah, shaggy,
Speaker 1: mister Vegas, shaggy shaggy. Next one is yours, shaggy.
Speaker 2: That's easy. You don't want to take this one. I
Speaker 2: feel like rosh you take this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, say it.
Speaker 2: It's pineapple ginger or sorrow.
Speaker 1: So you just said it. Go ahead, fucked up? Wait
Speaker 1: on pineapple ginger are sorry? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what Sorry gingers together and then sorry is separates the flower, right,
Speaker 1: Sorry is a Christmas drink when you have.
Speaker 2: Damaica And this is what they make on Christmas.
Speaker 1: On christ hype biscus is like the pub of the eyebiscus.
Speaker 1: But but I used to I talked to you about
Speaker 1: like the scent right of my father.
Speaker 6: Right, imagine smelling pineapple ginger wood and some stew.
Speaker 1: That's what you smell, so pineapple ginger. It's like reminding
Speaker 1: my father.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's probably one of the house scent.
Speaker 6: You go up, you going to the studios, smell that
Speaker 6: they call you in the kitchen making them pineapp a
Speaker 6: ginger is like as always reminding my father, So pinup.
Speaker 6: I love that for that, And it's heel purposes, of course,
Speaker 6: but I like that.
Speaker 1: I like to.
Speaker 2: It takes me to the seventies. You know, you gotta
Speaker 2: come to my wife's juice ball. Juice juice ball, Hollandale.
Speaker 2: We got all my wife got a juice ball. That's
Speaker 2: what we all do. The delivery stuff too, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: ain't not not your carib fun figure out here in
Speaker 2: the beach. I ain't telling nobody but your family.
Speaker 1: Down south.
Speaker 9: Want to know.
Speaker 1: I went to and I saw the fan one day, you.
Speaker 2: Know, one of them type of places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, definitely come to the Juiceball because Pineapple Ginger
Speaker 1: is in effect and sorrow too.
Speaker 6: Clara is good, but it's not that I mean, so
Speaker 6: it is nice, but it's not like if you ask
Speaker 6: my favorite team, I got for Pineapple Ginger, okay for real.
Speaker 2: Or Kanye any way you want to pick evil motherfuckers?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yo yo, wow, geesh.
Speaker 6: This is them type of questions when you like, if
Speaker 6: people were your friends, if they even like some of
Speaker 6: the stuff you like it, you know, your type of
Speaker 6: ship where your friends.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker.
Speaker 6: No, that's a good one because those are like a
Speaker 6: really good comparison based upon you know, because obviously in
Speaker 6: regards to the fashion side.
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean, I knew he was
Speaker 2: gonna go there.
Speaker 6: It's a thing because they you know, that type of
Speaker 6: that's you know, that's street culture, that high luxury stuff
Speaker 6: where they play around and you know, and then as
Speaker 6: a music creative, you know what I'm saying, They even
Speaker 6: connected music as a creatives as a music builders, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, like producers.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a tough one shot leading the witness man.
Speaker 1: You keep which one is shot for?
Speaker 2: Again for Kanye, you just wanted to be cool both.
Speaker 1: If you want to be cool with both, he said,
Speaker 1: you want the gear from both of.
Speaker 2: Them, I'm gonna go both to getting I mean, that's man,
Speaker 2: you got no listen, I'm a bigger We're doing We're
Speaker 2: gonna do a shot because you know it's one love,
Speaker 2: one love.
Speaker 1: It's one love.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Because I've been trying to
Speaker 2: get into the Yeah, the lou Louis buiton Cowboys ship.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not into that ship either.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not.
Speaker 6: I mean, but if you talk about like I'm not
Speaker 6: into that stuff like he tried, He tried to do it.
Speaker 6: I saw him over there.
Speaker 2: Killed it cowboy hat like, but be honest, they could
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You know, you know who's a dope.
Speaker 6: You know it was awesome Oswell Bow Tang you know
Speaker 6: you make make suits and Sava Roa in London, bang
Speaker 6: from He's a super sharp to the t growing man.
Speaker 1: Stuff Okay, that good stuff too.
Speaker 2: I like everyone thinks, I like you know who.
Speaker 6: I also like Jerry Lorenzo, you know, from this is
Speaker 6: Brank fair of god essence, fair guy, yeah, fair guys dope.
Speaker 6: But I remember Jerry in LA when he used to
Speaker 6: run the nightclub scene and thing I lived out in
Speaker 6: LA and then to see him like, you know, and Jerry,
Speaker 6: Jerry come from his father as a baseball player from
Speaker 6: I think Dodgers or something that's Super Baseball MLB. Jerry's
Speaker 6: you know, me, been around sports a long time, so
Speaker 6: he kind of inspired by that athletic word that he's doing.
Speaker 1: So I like, I like what Jerry's doing.
Speaker 2: He's one of my.
Speaker 1: Guys too, So I guy, you didn't, guy, you didn't
Speaker 1: throw him into the mix?
Speaker 2: Yep? Okay, and we did take a shot for that, right,
Speaker 2: we take a smoke.
Speaker 1: One of these. Yeah, please Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock
Speaker 1: all right, Dave Chappelle analog or did you h whatever?
Speaker 2: Hey, I got an.
Speaker 1: iPhone podcast or radio podcast because you know what.
Speaker 2: We got to move with the times. And I like
Speaker 2: this show. God damn it that Gregory Isaac's Peter Tosh.
Speaker 2: I guess we're thinking for that method Man or red
Speaker 2: Man the brothers.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's why we said, what do you do?
Speaker 2: You gotta do it both.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can't like. That's one thing you can't like.
Speaker 1: That's one you.
Speaker 6: That's like I said, you said like you just can't
Speaker 6: put those guys against each other.
Speaker 1: You care, that's like that. That's something.
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, those are that's one of them things
Speaker 6: that you should drink on your own for it.
Speaker 1: Question.
Speaker 2: That's a true question.
Speaker 1: That's like a trick. Okay, love or fear? You'd rather
Speaker 1: be love or feared?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. This is the Robert. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why though love? Because why love? You see a lion?
Speaker 2: You have to love me? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But you yourself, no, you fear me?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You did, right.
Speaker 6: So it's love first because I walk in dominion and
Speaker 6: I walk in love with myself. But you're on the
Speaker 6: outside when you look on this lion, you know it's fear,
Speaker 6: but it's truly love. So because we're ever ready, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. But it's really love. But we're lions.
Speaker 6: And I saw a lion or that that was.
Speaker 1: All ended with this one yeah, yeah, not.
Speaker 2: But in the interview with tamaslave loyalty or respect loyalty?
Speaker 1: Okay, is that fast? Because with loyalty come respect because
Speaker 1: you know, first you have to have the loyalty. Then
Speaker 1: there's cook. You know, respect is subjective because some things
Speaker 1: you do true love and true loyalty, and then it
Speaker 1: becomes like I respect this man because I love this person,
Speaker 1: and I'm liing to this person because of love. So
Speaker 1: it's really you know, it's always got to be loyaltyalty,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just truth. I'll take a shot to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking you ain't take a shot, take a lot.
Speaker 2: You got mass smart, that was smarter, That was smart.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. You know, I'm gonna take You
Speaker 2: want to do it together, you know, because you know,
Speaker 2: you know what it's just in my mind. I got
Speaker 2: to get because he's back from it's my mind. I
Speaker 2: got to say this out. One thing about Jamaicans, right,
Speaker 2: Jamaicans always had juice bars wherever I was at my hood,
Speaker 2: and they would be.
Speaker 1: The most health conscious people. They're preaching it, preaching it
Speaker 1: at the same time telling me, but.
Speaker 2: Who says it's not health I didn't say it's not.
Speaker 1: But that's that's tackling mental health.
Speaker 2: I give you, I give you. You know, in the hood,
Speaker 2: a lot of people can't afford to go to the doctors.
Speaker 2: So what they do is they go to the local
Speaker 2: juice bar. And I remember, I tell this story all
Speaker 2: the time. That's the reason why I believe in tager bone.
Speaker 2: I believe in pills.
Speaker 1: Believing it and drinking it every day.
Speaker 2: It's two different things. But okay, I went to a
Speaker 2: juice ball one day. The police came. I've ran into
Speaker 2: the juice bar. I did not realize that the juice
Speaker 2: bar was the west. So I'm wanting into where they
Speaker 2: they're going. They're reading you running from them, running into
Speaker 2: where they're going, looking idiot. So I get outside and
Speaker 2: then the police say to me, well, what was you
Speaker 2: doing in there? I was like, I was buying tiger
Speaker 2: bone and the police is like, okay, great, I didn't
Speaker 2: know tager bone was illegal at the time. They run
Speaker 2: in whatever. Whatever. The next day I come up, I say, yo,
Speaker 2: what the fuck happened? This is some idiot told the
Speaker 2: police we were selling tagaphone.
Speaker 10: I was like, that was me.
Speaker 2: They was like, normay, this is illegal. So anyway, that
Speaker 2: same week, a guy comes to the same health whose
Speaker 2: spot and he hugs this man. He hugs this man.
Speaker 2: And when he hugged him, I never seen a man
Speaker 2: hug another man. This platonic. This is a platonic. But
Speaker 2: this was like and he said it was like he
Speaker 2: started crying. So I looked, and I was that curious.
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, my man, I never seen like,
Speaker 2: you know, one straight man hugging him, a straight man
Speaker 2: like that, Like what happened? He said? Straight? He said,
Speaker 2: he said, my dick didn't work for seven years.
Speaker 1: Are here?
Speaker 2: He said, I told my this is the guy saying
Speaker 2: this to me. He said, he told his wife to
Speaker 2: cheat on him because he couldn't he couldn't please them.
Speaker 2: But this man got ginger root and fucking tiger bone
Speaker 2: and and and these pills from these rosterfarians. And this
Speaker 2: man said, I'm fucking like a rabbit right now. And
Speaker 2: I'm looking he's crying his tears.
Speaker 1: This is a grown man.
Speaker 2: This is a grown man.
Speaker 1: This is beyond years.
Speaker 2: I can't even tell you what type of sixties he was.
Speaker 1: In, even a silver status.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had you beat. His ship was great everywhere.
Speaker 2: His ship was great. He's a culture and he starts
Speaker 2: a roster Farian cultures and man, this guy is somewhere naked.
Speaker 6: You know what, you know what your couture, angoes you meet,
Speaker 6: you know why, it's the cousin. What's the most important
Speaker 6: thing to us as human beings? Men are women to reproduce?
Speaker 6: No having a partner, right, like why right? Why for
Speaker 6: for creation?
Speaker 2: For yeah?
Speaker 6: So so it's so it's the most important monication. Part
Speaker 6: of that's the crowd say, it's a form of love. Okay,
Speaker 6: it's an exercise, it's an exchange each other.
Speaker 2: Right, But you have to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to service your you have
Speaker 1: to I mean, so you have to just be able
Speaker 1: to you know, provide.
Speaker 2: You got to do that. You gotta do that.
Speaker 1: So our culture, guys, yeah, facts, our culture is like that.
Speaker 6: Everything you drink, everything you eat is all based around
Speaker 6: that fish. You drink fish water for this, not.
Speaker 1: Every this is that. Everything is around the productive organs.
Speaker 2: Every everything that every every Jamaican friend of mine sorrow everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why you're sorry, every everything for the wine, everything
Speaker 2: know everything everything your last longer what we gonna lasts? Long.
Speaker 2: Hold using bathroom? You gotta use the bath room.
Speaker 1: No, I'm fine, okay, hold on, I guess all right, Well, okay,
Speaker 1: you put.
Speaker 8: It, you make it?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: What what is that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: You smoke?
Speaker 1: No, I don't smoke.
Speaker 2: You know my lungs are still in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. My lungs haven't grow up.
Speaker 2: My moms have not grown.
Speaker 6: I see you running, though, which I see you running
Speaker 6: every morning getting five A I'm jealous.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know. You make me jualdous. You motivate, You
Speaker 1: motivate us. You want to could be a drink, but
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna have a balance in like
Speaker 1: you motivated us.
Speaker 7: You do.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you doing that. I like to
Speaker 1: run on the beach myself.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll tell you. I want we're going with
Speaker 2: your man stap on the bike. Nobody's in our way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: move out the bike lay.
Speaker 1: Ryan stays moving. Your son has a hit record out
Speaker 1: now you ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, how can you and Laura not make
Speaker 2: have a son with a hit record?
Speaker 1: It's just it just has to go. It goes along
Speaker 1: with it. I can.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this though, commend miss Laurence Hill, because yes,
Speaker 6: when we talk about like, I only know certain people
Speaker 6: like this, right, And it's just I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: obviously it's my son, you know, but you know she's
Speaker 6: his mother and.
Speaker 1: You know what her craft is. Absolutely, but I only
Speaker 1: know certain people like this.
Speaker 6: And it's one of the reasons why when I was young,
Speaker 6: I always made it my point to never interfere with
Speaker 6: Missile's music, like I always, you know, I take a
Speaker 6: backseat to her music because she's super great, you know.
Speaker 6: And you talk about public enemy. I remember when Chuck
Speaker 6: d said, like Laurence like the female about Marley. You
Speaker 6: know he's right about that. Yeah, it's truly right because
Speaker 6: she's like really that person. And when you talk about
Speaker 6: someone that stands on principle, you know, like because like
Speaker 6: I said, at some point in life, you got like
Speaker 6: own yourself, you know, like on yourself, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. But I'm here, I want to get here,
Speaker 6: you no, not, I mean like that because you know,
Speaker 6: as a musician and because sometimes you like going through stages, right,
Speaker 6: and then it so happens that you still have to
Speaker 6: do this, but you're still going to your own mind
Speaker 6: and solidifying your consciousness in regards to walk in this
Speaker 6: way that you see as your way, and no one
Speaker 6: believes in your way because it's not your way.
Speaker 1: So you have to kind of own your way.
Speaker 6: And it's new to you because it's a vision that
Speaker 6: you have for yourself, right, so this way is new
Speaker 6: to you.
Speaker 2: So for you to attain this way, you have to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 6: And people are going to say, oh, she's this, she's that,
Speaker 6: But then again you're in your mind and then you
Speaker 6: got to perform. So sometimes there's a delay because of
Speaker 6: all the accolades, all the attributes that go along without
Speaker 6: the attire and this and that. The timing is always
Speaker 6: you know, may you get up at one and you
Speaker 6: got to be on stage at eight, but you take
Speaker 6: five hours to do this, you know, So you know
Speaker 6: timing is so. But today and been through that and
Speaker 6: seeing her in Brooklyn performing with the fuji Is again
Speaker 6: learning on the Fuji is it was just like questioning,
Speaker 6: you know what the greatest, the greatest rap band ever
Speaker 6: in history is the Foujie's hands down.
Speaker 2: So to see them on stage together again and Lauren
Speaker 2: Hill and the Sons and like they're like the standings here.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's kind of crazy. I didn't even look
Speaker 2: at that, so you just said that that's real. So
Speaker 2: it is what it is.
Speaker 6: But to see now why G and to watch why
Speaker 6: G Marley because his name means young Gong. My dad
Speaker 6: is tough junior go, so I mean, but y G
Speaker 6: like it's special. You know, my brother called my brother
Speaker 6: Stephen when he was young, he called him Josh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He's baptizing the river, the Orthodox river, by the same
Speaker 6: priests that baptized my father. All of us Orthodox. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we're all Orthodox, you know, but especially you know, I
Speaker 6: grew up in Jersey, South Orange, so but he's he's
Speaker 6: rough because you know, there's no better so Jersey South Orange. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and you walk South Orange went to like Columbia High
Speaker 6: School and thing hunting and then places, so you g
Speaker 6: going to go as like an independent, you would still
Speaker 6: finding his way because as his parents, we don't really
Speaker 6: try to.
Speaker 1: Did what you did, like found his own way? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fox so too, I mean, And then you know, first
Speaker 1: when I heard the song, I was like, wow, Josh, Wow,
Speaker 1: we got to clear this.
Speaker 2: Who do I think? Who do you think? I'm sorry? Yeah,
Speaker 2: who do you think had more pressure? You trying to
Speaker 2: be great in your world or him trying to be
Speaker 2: great in his world.
Speaker 1: Oh, man, he don't have no pressure. Man, he don't
Speaker 1: have no pressure. His mother paved the way I did
Speaker 1: what I had to do, his father, grandfather, legacy.
Speaker 6: He ain't got no pressure. Did you see how cool
Speaker 6: he is? But it ain't because of that. It's because
Speaker 6: of the cause of his own life, his own experiences
Speaker 6: being that. And then remember, right, Lauren Hill is his mother.
Speaker 6: Listen to all the stuff in the media about your mother,
Speaker 6: whatever they say about your father, but listen to how
Speaker 6: they try to hurt your mother because she don't confine
Speaker 6: the system and listening to that and going to.
Speaker 1: School and you have to and still have to be
Speaker 1: the lion that you are.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, fuck that. So yeah, I have to
Speaker 2: take a shot.
Speaker 6: Because they tried to destroy Lauren because miss Hale pardon me,
Speaker 6: they tried to destroy Miss Hill's work and legacy because
Speaker 6: she didn't want to do another miseducation the way they
Speaker 6: wanted her to do it.
Speaker 2: She wanted to make.
Speaker 6: Music as her evolution, so through that now they would
Speaker 6: you know, so you know the record, you know the thing.
Speaker 1: But she ain't gonna bow to that. So she's a
Speaker 1: real queen in that industry.
Speaker 6: And she's and people say, oh, we don't, well, if
Speaker 6: you're true Lauren Hill fan, you know that whether she's
Speaker 6: not at the same time that you guys want her
Speaker 6: to be on stage, but she had been touring ever
Speaker 6: since and still touring today. So she's like to me,
Speaker 6: she's like the band, like she built a career like
Speaker 6: the Grateful Dead.
Speaker 1: She's not like a woman. She don't chase some interviews.
Speaker 1: That's ad person.
Speaker 6: But now it's so beautiful to see her create her
Speaker 6: art and teach Joshua the way and bring Joshua on
Speaker 6: stage open for the Fuji's reunion and Laurenie on the
Speaker 6: Fujis to give him away and give him a spotlight
Speaker 6: and and like guide him, help him to orchestrate his
Speaker 6: music like kind of you know, she's a.
Speaker 1: G like really g like real g bro bro Like
Speaker 1: she's ill. She's like top notch.
Speaker 2: It's like a shot what you call them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta call her by her name, Miss Hills.
Speaker 1: You know, some people go by this and that, you
Speaker 1: go by that. Cheers fellows, cheer, cheers still that ye
Speaker 1: respect holy ship and we had prize On, we had
Speaker 1: w Cleft, we had a white Cliff. Brothers, brothers, yes,
Speaker 1: my brothers, both of them. We would love to have them.
Speaker 2: We would love to have miss Hill.
Speaker 1: We please. We're not asking, We're just saying it out loud.
Speaker 1: We want ask you. No, no, we're asking.
Speaker 2: We're asking the God.
Speaker 1: He's not saying Miss Hill. Trust no, I don't know.
Speaker 6: That's the respect I have, right because trust me, I
Speaker 6: don't want to know.
Speaker 1: Man, no interruption. So but but I like, I will
Speaker 1: do a copy paste. You know, I have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with this. Just I'm just sharing. I will for sure,
Speaker 1: I'll share that, you know. And then obviously.
Speaker 6: You know now now now because people always try to
Speaker 6: like pin you to a time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And like you said, oh I remember, you know. I
Speaker 1: read the comments.
Speaker 2: Oh this guy.
Speaker 1: I remember this guy because the one.
Speaker 6: Thing for sure, though she don't like when to talk
Speaker 6: about this, but I like to talk about it because
Speaker 6: it's a fact.
Speaker 1: I remember these people. I see this guy, this keyboard player,
Speaker 1: he's always such.
Speaker 6: A great guy whatever whatever, But anyway, he wasn't around
Speaker 6: when Messille was doing missidication was on Hill. And I
Speaker 6: remember when those New York guys. There were like one
Speaker 6: guy was a programmer. She don't like going to talk about.
Speaker 6: I'm gonn talk about anyway, because they like to paint
Speaker 6: her in this image. I remember she in the programmer
Speaker 6: with talented programmer drum program you know, took him out
Speaker 6: of the New York and he had a bridging named Kilo,
Speaker 6: and they created this New York entertainment group.
Speaker 2: I remember them in the Two Twins.
Speaker 1: I was there.
Speaker 6: She brought him upstairs to her her place in the
Speaker 6: in New York and kind of like because she really
Speaker 6: came programmed the drums, but she knew her sound. She
Speaker 6: know what she wanted and those guys can swing it
Speaker 6: with her swinger and things like Michael.
Speaker 1: Michael didn't know how to play music, but he would.
Speaker 7: Hum the music.
Speaker 2: She could swing it.
Speaker 6: She so so the time when those guys, you know,
Speaker 6: they they oh, Missle, we want to want such and
Speaker 6: such on this because when she met them, she said
Speaker 6: to those guys that, you know, I'll get you guys
Speaker 6: a publishing deal with Sony, but you but my music
Speaker 6: is my music. And after she did her thing, the
Speaker 6: guys came back and tried to sue her, right but
Speaker 6: because miss.
Speaker 1: Hill at the time.
Speaker 6: Was doing her Sabbatico right sabbatico, meaning she got in
Speaker 6: depth within the Bible, like she really like she's really
Speaker 6: one of them people like you know about mine taken
Speaker 6: on Rastafarai. It's such another way, you know, she just
Speaker 6: take on the truth like tu them old Testament where
Speaker 6: she just take take on this life so to to
Speaker 6: build her true foundation of self and what she believed in.
Speaker 6: But she she was in that wavelength, the system was
Speaker 6: able to take advantage of her right because she she
Speaker 6: she didn't really defend anything.
Speaker 1: She said, I don't get whatever she would like the
Speaker 1: material like she was in that space. Yes, that so
Speaker 1: what you know.
Speaker 6: But those guys know that, and they and because it
Speaker 6: didn't have to be that way, and they know that,
Speaker 6: and they still, you know, sometimes they beg me for forgiveness,
Speaker 6: not in those words, but me. You know, they call
Speaker 6: me sometimes and I said, you know such and such
Speaker 6: and such. Oh no, so whatever, you know, because as
Speaker 6: a musician and the type of musician that she is,
Speaker 6: she needs like certain type of musicians.
Speaker 2: But these people.
Speaker 6: The problem with these guys, they they want to be
Speaker 6: mister star guy on your project and I'm like, she's
Speaker 6: telling these guys no, no, no, no, no. I like
Speaker 6: you because you know your knowledge for music and you're
Speaker 6: the way you strumming. I like your sound. But I
Speaker 6: need you to strumm this. Uh uh uh uh I
Speaker 6: need I need that from you. Don't give me that.
Speaker 6: But this is no, no no, And so that little,
Speaker 6: that little ego thing because oh but no, I've been
Speaker 6: studying music. I went to music school.
Speaker 1: I don't give it.
Speaker 3: You could have went to she's the conductor and they're
Speaker 3: not letting her.
Speaker 1: Conduct, right, So so that burned their ego. And she
Speaker 1: don't play. She don't care. So you know what, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm mister, I work with such a sad care fun
Speaker 1: will you work with g like you care where you work?
Speaker 1: I don't give it you will care. So that so
Speaker 1: she get a bad rap for those things.
Speaker 6: But she's a true g dig and she don't play,
Speaker 6: and she's a woman and she's for her rights as
Speaker 6: a woman in the industry and she don't let nobody take.
Speaker 1: Advantage of her.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Her word is bond like that, and when she says
Speaker 6: what she believe in, and she's one of them type
Speaker 6: of people.
Speaker 1: So when you look at Hyeg, you look at Sayla, Sarah, Joshua,
Speaker 1: Joshua is HyG Zion and then again our younger son is.
Speaker 2: Your kids together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have five okay, wow together beautiful children.
Speaker 6: Have a daughter, right, I have seven children before and
Speaker 6: now I have five other ones, so I have twelve total.
Speaker 6: I have seven grandchildren and two on the way. So
Speaker 6: I have a long, big family, you do, and there
Speaker 6: are beautiful people. So Lauren and I we have Zion first,
Speaker 6: then we have Sailah, then we have Joshua, then we
Speaker 6: have John, and we have Sarah.
Speaker 1: And Lauren has a son, Micah. Big respect to Micah.
Speaker 6: He's not of my he's not my child, but he's
Speaker 6: born on July twenty third, and July twenty thirty is
Speaker 6: the birthday of highly Slashy the first. So yeah, so
Speaker 6: I have to love him, yes, even though he's not
Speaker 6: I love him same way like he's not my child.
Speaker 6: And after miss myself and Miss Lauren, you know, we traveled,
Speaker 6: we journeyed apart, but I love him the same way
Speaker 6: as her son. And it's truly intelligent boy too, So
Speaker 6: that's how you know the super intelligence of Miss Dawn Hill.
Speaker 1: Her mother is a school teacher, school principal.
Speaker 6: Father is like a computer scientist brother as he's a
Speaker 6: tech guy, smart family man, ivy league. She went to
Speaker 6: what Columbia University for a time. Super intelligent people just
Speaker 6: oh my god, I respect.
Speaker 2: I feel no officially.
Speaker 1: Respect respect to intelligence. Respect intelligence.
Speaker 6: So I love intelligence, by the way, yes this one,
Speaker 6: you know, Yes, inspired by intelligence. I learned how to
Speaker 6: use a computer after college at Miss Lauren Hill's house
Speaker 6: after college, after I knew nothing about.
Speaker 2: This technically shit, I'm playing football.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He was. He was a jock.
Speaker 1: He was a jockey. Man. Man, I couldn't.
Speaker 6: I couldn't do both. I mean today I commend the
Speaker 6: kids that are doing both. I one of that studing
Speaker 6: pick football at the same time.
Speaker 1: Good for you. Man.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Someone asked me this
Speaker 2: question the other day. They say, would I have to
Speaker 2: be starstruck? And I say, yes, just probably two people
Speaker 2: in this world I'll be starstruck with. Yeah, Larry David
Speaker 2: from Curby Enthusiasm. Uh, last season, right this last season.
Speaker 2: I think I will walk out the room If Larry
Speaker 2: I think I will run out of the room because
Speaker 2: I don't want to meet him. If he's a dick,
Speaker 2: fuck up everything.
Speaker 1: Larry David, Larry David and uh.
Speaker 2: Jerry sim really yeah, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Musician Sionfield, you're really a comedian listen.
Speaker 2: I don't know he is.
Speaker 1: He has that that comedian all day.
Speaker 2: Like if I go watch something all day, if you
Speaker 2: come to my house, it's either CURBYR.
Speaker 1: Enthusiasm, yeah, or intelligent all day.
Speaker 6: Like that is intelligence, absolutely very wise. I mean I
Speaker 6: recently met David Chappelle.
Speaker 2: Hold, sorry, let me ask, is there anybody you starstruck.
Speaker 6: Who like, like, have I met them? Or people in general?
Speaker 6: All right, okay, all right, I remember this is when
Speaker 6: I knew, like, this is when I like really knew
Speaker 6: something because you know, I came to America in nineteen
Speaker 6: eighty four, and this is when I like I knew
Speaker 6: this was like okay, because I'm in Jamaica watching these
Speaker 6: things and you know it was a Victory tour and
Speaker 6: the tickets in Miami, you can't go to this concert
Speaker 6: Victory Tour Michael Jackson and the Brothers.
Speaker 1: Wait, the Jackson five, the Victory Tour.
Speaker 2: It's called Victory Tour.
Speaker 1: Man. You guys are in music. You guys music music stuff. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we was young and too back then. All right, whatever, man,
Speaker 1: I'm young too, so the Victory tour, but I remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember right, they were older too. Watching the news
Speaker 1: at my grandma's house in Miami.
Speaker 6: I just came here. It's like, I think it's like
Speaker 6: eighty six. Yes, gotta be like eighty six. I mean
Speaker 6: something like that, because when I was young, I wanted
Speaker 6: those zip up zippy zippy parents like Michael Jackson had,
Speaker 6: you know, I remember actually want the news and he
Speaker 6: busted the moon log and remember my skin.
Speaker 2: The goose bumps. I was like, wow, so like that
Speaker 2: you're still brown skin.
Speaker 1: At that time, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6: And then and then the other person where like it's
Speaker 6: like a superhero to me, Like this person is.
Speaker 2: Like what is this one is?
Speaker 1: Obviously I never met vere, but do the drum rope
Speaker 1: for this and my son and I we have problems
Speaker 1: about these things. Don't start the drum rope, buddy, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean we're in number twenty three. Oh Jordan, who
Speaker 1: met Jordan's. I met Jordan's. Yeah, he met Jordan's.
Speaker 6: But the most awesome human being I know, like you
Speaker 6: talked about like starstre like, wow, I remember, like Lauren,
Speaker 6: she was getting an award for N double N C
Speaker 6: double P N double.
Speaker 1: A C P N double a c P W A C.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, and that's how I made that
Speaker 1: somebody the guy oh that she's not even right, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, n W A c P.
Speaker 6: So Lauren is getting an award and they're honoring Michael
Speaker 6: Jordan's So Lauren, Dad, he says to me, miss Hill's dad, Well,
Speaker 6: this time is Lauren for me?
Speaker 2: Whatever?
Speaker 1: At that time, at that time we're talking about time period,
Speaker 1: you're married. You're married at the time, yes, as you
Speaker 1: as you say, right, So, Lauren, dad said, you won't
Speaker 1: believe this. Guess who you're sitting next to. He says
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. I said, get the funk out of here.
Speaker 6: You didn't know you were sitting next to him? No,
Speaker 6: because we had the front row Lauren. I mean, remember
Speaker 6: Lauren is the top of the top. It's Lauren, and
Speaker 6: then it's it's Michael Jordan and then his wife Cookie Cookie, No,
Speaker 6: not Cookie, No, I'm sorry. What's Michael's name wife's name?
Speaker 1: At the time? Okay, I think so.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking I can't believe fucking Michael Jordan's. It's like,
Speaker 6: I can't fucking believe this ship. But this is the
Speaker 6: time when he had cut cut his finger with the
Speaker 6: cigar opener.
Speaker 2: I know his history.
Speaker 6: So he was wearing a he's wearing a band. So
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, you're coming back. Of course, I introduced myself.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Second nineteen eighty four was the Victory Tall.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Remember yeah, what number November second? Yeah, I just came
Speaker 6: to America August nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was already on tour.
Speaker 1: Yes, really, Jean, he was No, I can't with it.
Speaker 2: No, I can't.
Speaker 6: No, I got expelled out of school Jesus, and that's
Speaker 6: how I ended up in America. I didn't even tell
Speaker 6: you that part of my life. But anyway, it's another
Speaker 6: time for that.
Speaker 2: But m J.
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan's Michael Jackson, I would say, outside of my
Speaker 6: family or like two of my heroes, heroes, heroes like
Speaker 6: I remember sworn Saturdays.
Speaker 2: So you're saying you met both MJ's. I never met
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, will be with a Tall.
Speaker 1: I would know. I saw when I saw him on
Speaker 1: the news, and my my skin had the goosebumps. That's
Speaker 1: when I was young.
Speaker 6: I mean I wanted the parachute, the jacket, I wanted
Speaker 6: that stuff.
Speaker 1: I wanted the Michael Jackson like I thriller joint, like
Speaker 1: Billy Jean beat it. The red black, uh huh, the
Speaker 1: red black red specific red, red, recific red red red
Speaker 1: is thriller red.
Speaker 2: It's a lot about you because looking about you, what
Speaker 2: does this say?
Speaker 1: The black one you might still rob somebody. The red
Speaker 1: one you go on to the left.
Speaker 2: The left, we don't know the left we left.
Speaker 1: We don't know where the level went at bag. But
Speaker 1: I'm red ya fire.
Speaker 2: Yes you're a Protestant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure recipes bless him, bless him, bless hum.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so that those are my would be. I
Speaker 6: would say people that I think very like as Jackson. Yeah, man,
Speaker 6: I remember warring SAP. One day, right, come on a FaceTime, Hey,
Speaker 6: ro I got somebody for you. Put Michael Jordan on faced.
Speaker 6: I was like, yo, hey, maen so on the golf course.
Speaker 6: You know they're on the boat on the citing the
Speaker 6: back of fishing rich ship my bad. So I was
Speaker 6: trying to tell him that streamment. I remember meeting you, like, hey,
Speaker 6: man up like.
Speaker 1: Cut me up.
Speaker 6: But but but the problem was, you know, you can't
Speaker 6: get you can't take him too much time in this man,
Speaker 6: So he's like what you're saying, I'm trying to tell
Speaker 6: him my story.
Speaker 2: Man, I met you and so and so and.
Speaker 1: Was like you can't hear that ship.
Speaker 6: No, step is the type of guy you've been full
Speaker 6: conversation Step such and.
Speaker 1: Such a later.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, all right, what that's sad. That's sad.
Speaker 2: That's sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, that's the only people you
Speaker 1: were fan out.
Speaker 2: No, I mean Pele, I.
Speaker 1: Met soccer player Pele like like soccer when you talk
Speaker 1: about I'm an athlete, dig.
Speaker 2: So how about Messy?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I mean I remember I'm a little older,
Speaker 6: so I always go all the way, you know, to
Speaker 6: the right. Although, Daniel, I'm Brazilian players, but Messi I
Speaker 6: do like. But but I'm more of like, I'm more
Speaker 6: in Zil. I'm more I'm more of a Brazilian guy.
Speaker 1: Where's Messi from Argentina?
Speaker 6: I'm Brazil And then Ronaldo Christina what was his name?
Speaker 6: I mean, I like Christian because he's a legend. He's
Speaker 6: one of the most famous football players in the world.
Speaker 1: But I'm in Brazil. I mean, I'm like Brazil, Brazil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not. We have a daughter from Brazil.
Speaker 2: He came to my birthday party.
Speaker 3: I bet you we can say any continent. I feel
Speaker 3: like he's gonna be like, I have a kid from that.
Speaker 3: You're in Brazil said, yeah, I have a daughter in Brazil.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Name is Maria. I think we could be like, well, my.
Speaker 1: Presilian daughter Maria. But I feel like I fear if
Speaker 1: we say the moon, you might be like, yes.
Speaker 2: The Moon. I have a child.
Speaker 1: I told you about my You know, I'm into UFOs
Speaker 1: seers to that.
Speaker 2: Who has both kids? Your pops?
Speaker 6: But you know, my dad is a father to the world.
Speaker 6: But naturally, you know, nine eleven children?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that the Rastafarian way to program is that really
Speaker 1: is not really a Rastafari way to program me. I
Speaker 1: think it's everyone's way, right, right, But I'm saying in
Speaker 1: that Magnifude, Well, well.
Speaker 6: I guess what I'm just having to be honest, I
Speaker 6: guess what happens right, say, like, for instance, as a
Speaker 6: human being, I have a girlfriend, right or a woman
Speaker 6: that I consider I'm gonna be with this woman for
Speaker 6: a long time, right, So we're naturally having intercourse.
Speaker 2: And if you have intercourse over a.
Speaker 6: Period of time a lot of times, naturally there's gonna
Speaker 6: have certain results and they're gonna be positive. So over
Speaker 6: a certain period of time, you know, it just happens
Speaker 6: that you have children with the woman you're with. So
Speaker 6: it's like that, it's really it's like it's being with
Speaker 6: someone and having a child. And then normally, naturally when
Speaker 6: you're younger, when you're much younger, right, you know, and
Speaker 6: you're trying to find yourself too, and so sometimes you know,
Speaker 6: you do things where you don't say you're right or wrong.
Speaker 6: You just feel like it's the right way, because who's
Speaker 6: to tell you it's the wrong way, right, So you
Speaker 6: figuring it out for yourself. So you think this woman
Speaker 6: is the woman you want to be with, and you're
Speaker 6: the person. Then the person along the way changes your
Speaker 6: ways or you change your way towards this person. Naturally, yes,
Speaker 6: So it doesn't work out, So you end up being
Speaker 6: with someone else, and then you have another child, and
Speaker 6: then it doesn't work out. Then you end up being
Speaker 6: someone else and you have another child, and then it
Speaker 6: doesn't work out, and it just happens to not work
Speaker 6: out some of the times, and it works.
Speaker 1: How you manage fothering the children.
Speaker 2: That's the best birds in the best conversation I've ever
Speaker 2: heard of.
Speaker 1: With how you manage them. It's just like you manage
Speaker 1: your friends, right right, So if you so friends, family,
Speaker 1: how you manage life? Like some people don't have children,
Speaker 1: they manage like Yeah, have you ever seen.
Speaker 2: A dog walker?
Speaker 1: You've seen one at walk like fifteen dogs. How you
Speaker 1: manage that? That's what he does. So I, as a father,
Speaker 1: I live for my children. My life is to raise children.
Speaker 2: That's what I live up.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 6: That's why I want to raise like a champion, you know,
Speaker 6: So like it's my It's like my my is when
Speaker 6: I get to mold. So that's like my purpose in life.
Speaker 2: Like the things I do is for that.
Speaker 6: And then again it's also a form of pro creating.
Speaker 6: And true some instances were loved, some instances but just happens.
Speaker 6: But you know, now, I'm more discipline my human girlvernor
Speaker 6: playing that so like one of them, it's not gonna play.
Speaker 6: She don't play it. But that's another story. But she
Speaker 6: don't play, and she gives me. She loved my children.
Speaker 6: She gives me that respect and thing. You know, a second.
Speaker 6: But to do that, you have to be a father.
Speaker 6: You have to be committed to your children. And you
Speaker 6: have to know that it is your responsibility as a man.
Speaker 6: You know your children or your children, and you must
Speaker 6: And my house is my children. My doors are open
Speaker 6: to my children. I have children that are married. You know,
Speaker 6: my daughter Eden, she's married and she has two nice,
Speaker 6: beautiful daughters. My grandfathers to them. I have a son,
Speaker 6: like my children graduate college. I have older children. They're
Speaker 6: in there, one thirty year old up on this and
Speaker 6: then the youngest you have. My youngest is going to
Speaker 6: be two in March.
Speaker 7: Wow, you out of control, bro. I actually I'm unplay.
Speaker 7: But I have a three year old in the fire,
Speaker 7: and I'm out of control.
Speaker 6: Well I think I'm like in control and stuff. No,
Speaker 6: but I understand what you say that. But you know what,
Speaker 6: that's the that's just you know, it's part of.
Speaker 1: What I eat. He said.
Speaker 2: I'm a good father, a productive guy, a ginger roote.
Speaker 1: I can produce. Man, I'm a productive guy. So but
Speaker 1: but now I'm I'm I'm you know, I'm very I'm
Speaker 1: very settled in life and I find the right person
Speaker 1: for me and then I'm moving on like that. So
Speaker 1: it's good. But I feel like I have a lot
Speaker 1: of children that I need now to to build them,
Speaker 1: build the characters, build leaders, and have my own little
Speaker 1: army so that I can focus on, you know, and
Speaker 1: they make you as well, Yeah, make you.
Speaker 6: So that's what I love about children. It's my responsibility.
Speaker 6: It's like, it's my responsibility everything about my child and
Speaker 6: my children of them so much, you know, all of them,
Speaker 6: you know, and they love each other because I was
Speaker 6: raised this way. So it's like and also I'm.
Speaker 1: A product of my environment because you know, growing up
Speaker 1: where you just have this way. But then when you
Speaker 1: get older, you realize, you know, maybe it's time to
Speaker 1: like be like Ziggi or Cidella, you know, where you
Speaker 1: just kind of settle a down and live life where
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about things. And because it's
Speaker 1: a it's a manageable thing, but it's you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to manage life. So I want to live a life
Speaker 1: full of trust and that's peaceful where my woman can
Speaker 1: take my phone and do it or whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: want to worry about those things again, like yeah, like
Speaker 1: because as strong as you are, right as a woman's
Speaker 1: there's a woman that's stronger than you, so and so,
Speaker 1: and that's just keep puting it where the woman can
Speaker 1: take the phone. Yeah, it's like that because it's too hard.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: No, but you know it's not necessariainly stressful but not
Speaker 1: necessarily the thing. But you don't want to live, like
Speaker 1: but it's just like you get to focus on other things, man,
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: Most people is broke to you know that? Yeah, they
Speaker 2: broke because like they all the time cheating. I hear you,
Speaker 2: like trying.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't look, I can't. I can't call
Speaker 1: myself innocent. Like I've never been a bad guy in
Speaker 1: people's eyes. I started as just being cool. It's growth,
Speaker 1: it's growth, we all, we all sure.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you because we talked about Warren Sapp. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we talked about ray Lewis. Didn't talk about was you
Speaker 2: at the u M You played at the h U
Speaker 2: M U M Rock? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do ah?
Speaker 2: You playing with the rock? Excuse me? Do we call
Speaker 2: him do it at that time?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 2: But he's the rock? But so you mean I can
Speaker 2: walk up to the Rock, do we. I don't think
Speaker 2: you can do it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: What was the season? I'm not sure. I don't think
Speaker 2: I hold up.
Speaker 1: I think you guys had a record season, right we
Speaker 1: always do?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: In my college career, I think I lost three games.
Speaker 6: In my entire career, we won fifty eight games straight
Speaker 6: at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never.
Speaker 6: I've never played on a team that was ranked less
Speaker 6: than number three in the country.
Speaker 1: So you were the Rock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Rock played with us. Yes, and we played
Speaker 6: with the Rock as well, meaning like you know, the
Speaker 6: person on the football field like friends were you and
Speaker 6: family that's dope.
Speaker 2: Anybody else We're not naming how you play with worms
Speaker 2: and mind you and mind you.
Speaker 1: But they kind of played with me though, like they
Speaker 1: played with you, they played with you. I'm the motherfucking
Speaker 1: when I was there, I'm the leader you can when
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm leading that team like they played with me.
Speaker 1: When you when you talk to sad, Yeah, I played
Speaker 1: the real hand. We talked.
Speaker 6: Now, I'm kidding, but listen, ro this is what I'm
Speaker 6: trying to say. Right, we could predict you know what
Speaker 6: happened to me? You know how I learned the game?
Speaker 6: I came here when they expelled me from Cool in
Speaker 6: Jamaica because you know, just an, I didn't like the school,
Speaker 6: I didn't like the people, but it's whatever happened.
Speaker 1: They expelled me.
Speaker 6: So when I came here, I was going to a
Speaker 6: school and then Pine Crest Pinkerst Elementary And it was
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four and it's during the time when the
Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins were like very good with Dan Marino killing
Speaker 6: Like if you no, if you ever asked me about
Speaker 6: like were my favorite people, like the Miami Dolphins that
Speaker 6: Marino was one of my favorite guys growing up the eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So at the school they would play Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 6: Dolphins and one, so I started loving the game.
Speaker 1: And during the time, they were trying.
Speaker 6: To like they seize my father's asset because they were trying.
Speaker 2: To sell his rights.
Speaker 6: Right it's published in You wasn't trying to do that well,
Speaker 6: the trust in Jamaica because my dad never left a will.
Speaker 1: So it got it was crazy, right, So because of.
Speaker 6: That, they tried to he never tr We had a trust,
Speaker 6: but the trust wanted to sell all as asset or
Speaker 6: they no.
Speaker 1: Longer want to manage the assets. But that was just
Speaker 1: them trying to destroy another man, you know, liquidate all
Speaker 1: his assets. So Chris Blackwell, there's a short story. Chris
Speaker 1: Blackwell ended up lending the family the money. We the children,
Speaker 1: not that that's us, because that's us as Mama Rita
Speaker 1: and all the kids. So we got we borrow the money,
Speaker 1: and we bought our dad's rights, so we own everything.
Speaker 1: That's when we end up owning our father's rights. So
Speaker 1: that's that's wow. So now coming to America during that
Speaker 1: time with the court is.
Speaker 2: Movie coming to America, You come in to America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good reference because I like that because
Speaker 1: it is because it's coming to Americ King. I am
Speaker 1: a king. The King is the movement. Let me take
Speaker 1: you about this king though.
Speaker 6: So this king came to America during that time, and
Speaker 6: when they seized all my father's assets and everything. I
Speaker 6: remember them talking about selling my granny's house that we
Speaker 6: were living in, and being that I was one of
Speaker 6: Bob's child living in the house, I was able to
Speaker 6: put a pause on the sale to kind of like
Speaker 6: jurisdiction rights.
Speaker 1: But also remember living off.
Speaker 6: Of my dad's social Security check ninety nine dollars a
Speaker 6: month here in America.
Speaker 1: Is American social Security? Yeah wow?
Speaker 6: Because yeah, my dad has an American Social Security check.
Speaker 6: Remember he worked in Delaware for some time, you know that,
Speaker 6: well he did. He was like, if you work on
Speaker 6: the Forclift, work with the DuPont family, these type of people,
Speaker 6: such and such, well, my granny worked with them. He
Speaker 6: worked for like Chevy or whatever company is there. So anyway,
Speaker 6: I ended up coming here during that time because my
Speaker 6: family didn't have no money. My brothers would come to
Speaker 6: Miami and kind of help out with the bills. Mama
Speaker 6: Retail would help out with the bills because everything was
Speaker 6: seized up. So we were able to borrow some money
Speaker 6: from Chris Blackwell to buy our father's rights. And during
Speaker 6: this time, I wanted to like not pressure the family,
Speaker 6: So I ended up learning to play football and got
Speaker 6: a scholarship so I didn't have to bother my family
Speaker 6: about going to college.
Speaker 2: And you know, being that I was a failure, I just.
Speaker 6: Showed these motherfuckers that I'm going to go to fucking um.
Speaker 6: You bastards that hated me so much because I came
Speaker 6: from Spanish Town and I was Bob's child and I
Speaker 6: was supposed to be a failure.
Speaker 2: So I had to do that.
Speaker 6: So I had to put these fucker's wrong and go
Speaker 6: to the um. They bought that UM. And then that's
Speaker 6: kind of my way, you know, and that's how I
Speaker 6: got into football. I got a scholarship.
Speaker 3: So just to recap a lot of this though, this
Speaker 3: is the time period that the Marley name is not
Speaker 3: making money because it's being like these.
Speaker 1: And there's all the all the bootleggers. Everything is seized up,
Speaker 1: everybody running around. So we had to get everything under control,
Speaker 1: and it took a long long time.
Speaker 3: And Chris Blackwell, if I'm not wrong, the same dude,
Speaker 3: the only Marlin hotel right at the studio there.
Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of stuff there.
Speaker 6: So here his name a Marlon EANs like Golden Golden
Speaker 6: Beach in Jamaica, I forget the name of that place,
Speaker 6: Bond where James Bond did some stuff in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: And Strawberry Hills or my dad went.
Speaker 6: After the Yeah, my dad went there after the assassination attempt.
Speaker 2: He went to Strawberry Hills.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Chris Blackwell, good man, you know, he helped
Speaker 1: us out.
Speaker 2: He looked out for us.
Speaker 6: I mean it's the only person. And another story with
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson. So this is the human side of Mike Jackson.
Speaker 6: Michael Jackson, Okay.
Speaker 2: This is the human side.
Speaker 1: So we needed the money as a family.
Speaker 6: MCA wanted to buy my dad's rights, right, Sony Japan
Speaker 6: wanted to buy my father's rights.
Speaker 1: We asked Michael Jackson's for some money. Michael Jackson wanted
Speaker 1: to buy my fathers because he bought the Beatles. He
Speaker 1: did so he never learned this the money. So Mike
Speaker 1: wanted to buy the rights. You never learned iced the money.
Speaker 3: But Chris Blackwell, who was a good guy, you loan
Speaker 3: us the money. Oh so you're saying a human that
Speaker 3: wasn't such a great.
Speaker 6: No human, No, tell me as an entrepreneur. The human side, Yeah,
Speaker 6: the human beingside. We gotta pay your bills side. And
Speaker 6: you got Chris Blackwell loaned you the money. Work where
Speaker 6: Michael wanted to buy the rights, absolutely, and you guys
Speaker 6: were not interested in selling the rights.
Speaker 1: So I remember one of the offers. I think it
Speaker 1: was like nineteen ninety one. It was like twenty million dollars.
Speaker 6: So one of my things was because everyone has to
Speaker 6: sign all the children everyone, all the children we have
Speaker 6: to sign, and how many children is.
Speaker 2: This eleven of us?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, eleven of us or ten of us that
Speaker 6: I have us signing rights, so we all have to sign.
Speaker 6: So my thing was, well, shit, if it's worth twenty
Speaker 6: million to then we think it's worth to us.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like shit, I mean, wow, whoa, that's nice. But we're
Speaker 6: talking about it worth a trillion dollars to us? Man,
Speaker 6: what you can think about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I can't bargain that. Let's start there, you know,
Speaker 1: let's come on, come up with a trillion so we
Speaker 1: can make some change, real change.
Speaker 2: So that's what we thought about it.
Speaker 6: So I remember even then because as a youth, right,
Speaker 6: you get this option as a Marley boy or a
Speaker 6: Marley child from what was sold and the money that
Speaker 6: was loaned because you borrowed it. When you become eighteen
Speaker 6: years old, you get a million dollars, right, And I remember.
Speaker 1: Being at University of my end.
Speaker 3: But wait, hold hold up, So when you guys become
Speaker 3: any Marty child becomes eighteen years old, you get a
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 1: Right because of because of what they sold, what the
Speaker 1: trust that is right right, I was there, so we
Speaker 1: had to like borrow that money and you know, you.
Speaker 2: Get it, but you owe it kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Oh it's alone.
Speaker 2: It's I'm gonna tell you about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I don't even
Speaker 1: know what it is, but I'm gonna tell you how.
Speaker 2: It worked out.
Speaker 6: So anyway, when I was in college, I remember the
Speaker 6: lawyers coming to my my school and they're telling me, Hey,
Speaker 6: you're eighteen years old. Now what's your decision? You know,
Speaker 6: I said, what decision I got to make? You can
Speaker 6: sign here and own. Because of the loan that we took,
Speaker 6: the twelve million dollar loan, we have to pay that
Speaker 6: loan back. So my million dollars needs either it's going
Speaker 6: to go back to paying that loan or be tame
Speaker 6: another part of the loan, because it now it's becoming art.
Speaker 6: We're owning this company. We're we're barny mine to own
Speaker 6: our dads like any other people. We're barning money against that. Yes,
Speaker 6: so now I get the million dollars or do I
Speaker 6: take a million dollars and go live on the beach
Speaker 6: in Jamaica by the mansion, do all the great things
Speaker 6: I can do in the life and we set forever
Speaker 6: in my life.
Speaker 1: Let's do it, or do I take thirty six thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and carry on.
Speaker 6: So if the choice is the million dollars will go
Speaker 6: back you own you're a part of this company that
Speaker 6: owns all your day's rights, which is like all the family,
Speaker 6: we own that.
Speaker 1: Or we take your million dollars and really cash out.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: So the lawyers like, hey, well you know these motherfuckers man,
Speaker 6: because the lawyer, right, the bigger the pot, the more
Speaker 6: he makes, Right, what do you care about me?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So he wants you get
Speaker 1: the bigger amounts. So you can't get a bigger percentage, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's the bigger the part, the more fam if
Speaker 1: I give him.
Speaker 6: If I take the thirty, he's not going to be happy.
Speaker 6: If I get the MILLI and go, you take whatever
Speaker 6: you take out that and I be rich forever by
Speaker 6: a million dollars in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: So I ask these motherfuckers.
Speaker 6: I say, to these these asshole lawyers, these people that
Speaker 6: work for people that actually they own you, I say,
Speaker 6: let me ask you something. What did my brothers and
Speaker 6: sisters do my older brothers. Remember we talk about age.
Speaker 6: What did Zig and Sidela do and Steven?
Speaker 1: What did they do?
Speaker 6: Row they took the thirty thousand. I said, where do
Speaker 6: I sign? Give me the fucking thirty thousan dollars and
Speaker 6: get the fuck out. I didn't see all that part.
Speaker 2: I'm adding that was a movie. I'd say like that.
Speaker 6: I chose to give back the million dollars and live
Speaker 6: off of that thirty thousand dollars for a little bit.
Speaker 1: And thirty thousand sounds like interest. Three thousand dollars was
Speaker 1: because it was like you owed each party to pay
Speaker 1: back the loan.
Speaker 6: It's like nine hundred and seventy thousand dollars of such
Speaker 6: and such. So of the twelve million dollars that we
Speaker 6: bought from Chris Blackwell, that's the loan that you're paying back.
Speaker 1: We're paying the loan back to Chris Blackwell. Right, So
Speaker 1: that money, when we get it, we got ause that's
Speaker 1: what we bought. That's an asset. That's an asset that's
Speaker 1: giving us this million dollars again, right, So we're taking that,
Speaker 1: you know, so even though we bought it, Yes, so
Speaker 1: we have to pay that shit back.
Speaker 6: So we the family, the children, we keep our dad's
Speaker 6: rights end up until since nineteen eighty one and it's
Speaker 6: been us at the hound. So everything you see Bob
Speaker 6: Marley has been us to children doing it. And big
Speaker 6: up to my brother Ziggy Sidela, my big sister Sadela
Speaker 6: from holding it down, you know, all these years, Ma
Speaker 6: Marita like treating us all like her own children, like
Speaker 6: even though we're not.
Speaker 1: She's not my biological mother, but I call that. No,
Speaker 1: My mother's name is Janet the Hunter, a nice little
Speaker 1: lady that make nice food, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so big up to Janet that nobody knows but
Speaker 2: the place should have to cook because that was one
Speaker 2: of the things is I feel like Bob Marley is
Speaker 2: probably one of the most bootlegs person ever.
Speaker 1: Like everywhere you go you see a Bob Marley T shirt.
Speaker 2: You see.
Speaker 1: Man, are you telling me that for the most part,
Speaker 1: the family gets the residual state estate?
Speaker 6: Is it you guys? Yeah, okay, we the children. If
Speaker 6: I'm saying you trust that no longer exists. Remember we
Speaker 6: the trust dissolved and they sold all their assets and
Speaker 6: we had to buy it back. So we yeah, we
Speaker 6: are in control. So the things that but obviously there's
Speaker 6: still bodleg people out there. But the things that you see,
Speaker 6: we have our family seal there and you can see
Speaker 6: that so ours. So like for instance, Marley Coffee is
Speaker 6: of family business. House Mary is a family business. De
Speaker 6: Zion Roots is a family business. The Room Money Beach House.
Speaker 1: It's my thing. But I'm smart enough to make that.
Speaker 6: A family business, you dig, because you know, I'm nothing
Speaker 6: without my family.
Speaker 3: So is that a dispersed thing to the family. What
Speaker 3: is like business like the financials do you dis first?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because we're we're the directors of the company,
Speaker 1: so you keep everybody included. Yeah, all the family members
Speaker 1: are part of the business. But you said it's smart,
Speaker 1: Like it's smart to keep everything in the family businesses,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: So things that you see, we we are the operators
Speaker 6: of our family business, you know, and sister brother Ziggy
Speaker 6: after big them up because they manage all these things.
Speaker 6: And we work with c A you know that company.
Speaker 6: They're they're pretty good at managing the I P. So
Speaker 6: some of these new entities that we're creating, like you know,
Speaker 6: Marty Coffee is one of them.
Speaker 2: So they managed that.
Speaker 1: Marley Coffee, that's my baby he's always going to hear
Speaker 1: that ringing in your ears. Coffee I've been but this
Speaker 1: is drink. Yeah, yeah, we drink coffee too. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send you my address.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: You You have coffee for the rest of your life,
Speaker 1: both of you. Well, well, hold on. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you coffee when I can the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1: When I can, when I can, when I can. That's
Speaker 1: the London that j'amaking right there. He can speak, he
Speaker 1: can speak to you in London, London, man. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: right right right in the corner, right right in the corner.
Speaker 1: I remember coming and seeing you. How how was I
Speaker 1: as a human being? Was that a nice guy?
Speaker 6: Because you know why, I have to live up to
Speaker 6: this thing, man, And I'm telling you it's tougher than
Speaker 6: you think.
Speaker 1: The thing you tell it's not a burden for my day.
Speaker 1: It's my brothers and sisters.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That's what I told you about the burden. But it's them.
Speaker 6: It's like even playing football, I was like, I can't
Speaker 6: see I can't let my brothers see me get knocked
Speaker 6: on my back, Like.
Speaker 1: Like what the happen out there?
Speaker 2: Who that? Who's that guy?
Speaker 1: Like I can't. I gotta lie.
Speaker 6: I can't let them see me. They can't see me
Speaker 6: weak and they can't see me. They can't see me defeated,
Speaker 6: you dig. So that's like, that's who I have to be.
Speaker 6: My standards are to my my brothers and sisters. Is like, yeah, Mama, rita,
Speaker 6: like they hold it down, they hold the mantle. So
Speaker 6: I got to like uphold that. Like I really like
Speaker 6: when I when I do things in my mind, like Eve,
Speaker 6: when you hear me drinking on your your damn drink.
Speaker 1: Champs, I'm gonna get in trouble later.
Speaker 2: My brother Ziggy just talking about, Yeah, you can't be
Speaker 2: drinking Bloody Mary's in the morning. I'm like, there's a
Speaker 2: morning drink, sir. So that was one of my last questions.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna spell. Great guy might
Speaker 2: be the same question, how many times do you get
Speaker 2: mistaken for your brothers?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: Gosh, man, all the time, all my life. But it's
Speaker 6: cool because it's what we are.
Speaker 2: When they come on to you like you want hey Marty's.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, when I did, I was doing this thing
Speaker 1: for Marley Coffee.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: So there's a line around. There's a line around the building, right.
Speaker 6: I just remember hearing who's he again?
Speaker 2: Is that Ziggy?
Speaker 6: I just but I was like, you know, no, I'm Rohan.
Speaker 6: I'm Marty coffee guy, the farmer. You don't have a
Speaker 6: coffee story. But it's cool because that's just what it is,
Speaker 6: you dig and like it's like even being in Paris, right,
Speaker 6: and they were doing this red carpet thing for the
Speaker 6: movie and walking sicks Siggy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Ziggy's coming, man. I'm like, no, man,
Speaker 1: he's coming, man, I'm going inside.
Speaker 6: Like so it's cool though, but I'm not Ziggy and Steven, Damion,
Speaker 6: Julian and kim On and Robert. You know, I'm Rohan
Speaker 6: someoneey let you know, no, I'm Roman or no Ziggas
Speaker 6: soon come, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But it's nice. It's irin because we're all the same
Speaker 2: people and you all look alike. Though it's just if
Speaker 2: I was would be racist if I was white, but
Speaker 2: I'm black. Can still be racist.
Speaker 1: You can still be racis looking like your father got
Speaker 1: some great fun right now?
Speaker 2: Bro? Yeah, I do look in a great way. That's
Speaker 2: that's greatness.
Speaker 1: It's true, the family of God, it's the energy.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Because you know, we all think that we think alike.
Speaker 6: We're seven brothers, seven different minds, but our aim is
Speaker 6: highly slessed at at first Rastafari and like you hear
Speaker 6: my brothers, you talk about being good humans, you know,
Speaker 6: so we all aspire to be good people, good humans,
Speaker 6: and so we kind of judge each other.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 6: We don't judge like that, but we kind of rub
Speaker 6: off on each other in a way where we act
Speaker 6: like each other because we like how each other flex,
Speaker 6: we like how each other do.
Speaker 1: So we like each other just because our were of life.
Speaker 6: And even though our big sisters like Cidella and Sharon,
Speaker 6: we like them because they're great mothers and they're great teachers,
Speaker 6: the great leaders, the great CEOs, they're great operators. So
Speaker 6: we respect that, and we respect just nature. And we
Speaker 6: know that in human nature it's kings and queens. So
Speaker 6: we're of the kings and the women's of the queen.
Speaker 6: So we honor the women as queen as they are,
Speaker 6: and we walk as the kings.
Speaker 2: That we are. God, damn it, damn what make Let
Speaker 2: me just say.
Speaker 1: We couldn't have ended the better way. Really really respect you,
Speaker 1: your legacy, your family, everybody, everything that comes with it. Man.
Speaker 2: You know, we wanted to give you your flowers. You
Speaker 2: deserve your flowers. You earned your flowers. You are your
Speaker 2: own legend.
Speaker 1: And right, oh yeah, thank you, thank you thinking, and we.
Speaker 2: Wanted to share that in front of everybody, in front
Speaker 2: of the public, because it's real. Ship man. Great, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go. I'm gonna go go hang out your hotel
Speaker 2: and be honest.
Speaker 10: Can I smoke?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Not in the room weekends? You got balconies, right, pardon
Speaker 2: motherfucker about.
Speaker 6: You know, tweets on and just like anywhere else, we're
Speaker 6: responsible for our actions and we do as we see
Speaker 6: fit as how we see life. So if we want
Speaker 6: to burn, we know how to burn where we wanted burn.
Speaker 6: And yeah, we respect them how to burn.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be seeing you in Hawaii. You you different
Speaker 1: by the way. On my brother, I couldn't forget this, okay, Bro.
Speaker 6: I did bring two items from my brother, items that
Speaker 6: I produce and create and it's my lion order and line.
Speaker 1: Order and hopefully these are so so this is inspired
Speaker 1: by this change right here?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I decided to do things the right way. That's
Speaker 1: a rock Crystal that we're using right there, and that
Speaker 1: would look at finance finance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is line order stuff, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, movement, line order, and we believe in good
Speaker 1: quality things.
Speaker 6: Here, I got them monder the trade, which is made
Speaker 6: from not ceramic but personally, and I believe.
Speaker 1: In good quality things.
Speaker 6: So I got a lot of class the classes first, yo, Yeah,
Speaker 6: because why not. We're kings, you know, so we deserve
Speaker 6: to live as kings and be as clean as possible
Speaker 6: and try to do the things in the right way.
Speaker 6: So we want to live as kings as we are.
Speaker 6: And that's why always say lion order non denomination because
Speaker 6: Rastafarai is truly that because the Russ means head and
Speaker 6: the tar fire eye means the creature of the one being.
Speaker 6: So we're in charge of self. And that's what we
Speaker 6: know from the lion. The lion is always a lion.
Speaker 6: Every single day it wakes up, a lion, goes to
Speaker 6: sleep a lion. It's never not a lion. So we
Speaker 6: represent the lion order movement. So that's line order and
Speaker 6: my brother.
Speaker 2: Let's let's do it.
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