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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network and it is time now

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Speaker 3: kicking off our number two fourth the Fantasy Football Focus

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Speaker 3: and Matt, we're back in Baby, We're back in the

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Speaker 3: money as we should be, as we should be one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty four point twenty six points for our

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Nice team on DFS. Tua was owned in just

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Speaker 3: seven point two percent in leagues. I'm kind of surprised

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Speaker 3: by that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe people didn't think he was going to start, or

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Speaker 2: you know, fourteen point sixty six points, But yeah, fourteen

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Speaker 2: point six six points is good enough.

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Speaker 3: Javonte Williams thirty eight percent ownership, just nine point two points, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I've done that much.

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Speaker 2: A Chan was at.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five point two percent ownership. He went off twenty

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Speaker 3: six point seven points and probably could have done more.

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Speaker 3: They didn't give him the ball late, and that's probably

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons why it's funny. Tyreek Hil says,

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Speaker 3: we got the band back together, and you go out

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Speaker 3: and you lose to the Cardinals at home.

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Speaker 2: It's a crucial loss. I mean, a win there kind

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Speaker 2: of makes them a little dangerous to be a playoff team,

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Speaker 2: you know, Like now it's an uphill climb. Yeah, their

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Speaker 2: defense was a problem too.

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Speaker 3: George Pickens was owned in eleven point four percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: He got us eleven point four points two touchdowns picked

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Speaker 3: off the board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they mentioned it last hour. I mean, so many

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Speaker 2: fantasy points that he has not gotten credit for. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that he's kind of earned.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba twelve point nine points six catches

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Speaker 3: sixty nine yards. He was owned in six point nine

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Speaker 3: percent of leagues. So far, we've had no losers. No,

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Speaker 3: there certainly no zeros or any of that kind of nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Jaylen Waddle fifteen point six percent of leagues, eight and

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Speaker 3: a half points four catch.

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Speaker 2: Forty five yards. Little lackluster.

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Speaker 3: But Kate aughten fifty seven percent ownership, he was really chalky.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine points one points nine catches eighty one yards

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Speaker 3: to receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He's here to stay. Yeah, I mean I think he's

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Speaker 2: a tight end. One. JK.

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Speaker 3: Dobbins just twelve percent, twelve point eight percent ownership. He

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Speaker 3: got a sixteen point eight points.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He had a rushing touchdown, eleven receiving yards on four catches,

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Speaker 3: and fifty seven rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: So effort. Yeah, take it.

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Speaker 3: And the Steelers defense, thank you, Calvin Austin. But they

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Speaker 3: had four sacks, an interception, a fumble, recovery, a defense,

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Speaker 3: the touchdown, and they gave up between fourteen to twenty points.

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Speaker 3: So that was fifteen points out of the Steelers defense,

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Speaker 3: which had fourteen point one percent ownership.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you'll take it all day long. Yeah, so we

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Speaker 3: We had a couple of chalky guys who actually went off,

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Speaker 3: so it doesn't hurt us that did not have them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, and no holes, no holes, no super bad,

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Speaker 2: Like we didn take a zero. This chan was our best.

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't cheap. Yeah, actually oughten was the best.

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Speaker 2: He was highly owned. Yeah it was that's the only thing.

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Speaker 2: It'd hurt us for them, But he wasn't super expensive.

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Speaker 2: He's Spencer next week. Now, we didn't have a super

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Speaker 2: expensive guy in a lot. I remember, we didn't like

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Speaker 2: have any cheapy cheapies and we didn't have any super

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Speaker 2: all in guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a look at this week's uh waiver wire.

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Speaker 3: Not going to be much out there at this point.

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Speaker 2: Some of these guys, I don't know sure me we're

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Speaker 2: talking about this feels like such a Monday to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't even see the guy that I would pick

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Speaker 2: up here at the running back position in Dallas. Did

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Speaker 2: you Cook?

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Speaker 3: Did you like what you saw from Dalvin Cook? There

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Speaker 3: was some high usage or Dawdell was out? Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: he he looks better than Zeke. He looks better than Zeke.

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Speaker 3: It's intriguing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what Dowdell's injury status is.

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Speaker 2: He I think he was ill. Yeah, I still think

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Speaker 2: he's their best guy, and I think Zeke's their short yardage.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that that that Cook isn't better

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Speaker 2: in past protection protection. That's a good point. I definitely

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Speaker 2: think that could all three be active next week. I

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Speaker 2: mean something to pay attention to. Yeah, because there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of instances, even older dudes this this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Someone that has that fresh legs, fresh legs. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: all I care about, you know, Like if.

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Speaker 3: I need, if I need a spot starter that like

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you're going to start him this week,

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Speaker 3: but I keep an eye on it.

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Speaker 2: The sixth round pick or the veteran like Cook that

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Speaker 2: has no wear and tear on their body at that

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Speaker 2: position that gets inserted in the lineup. Now, they often

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Speaker 2: score a lot of Fantasy points. Yeah, yeah, I wonder

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Speaker 2: I'm on some of these guys are I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: week five? How am I week five? Here? Come outs people,

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Speaker 2: that's a problem. Here we go. Yeah, Cook would have

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Speaker 2: been on. I'm like, look looking at these guys, I'm

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Speaker 2: like that can't. Can't be that out of ownership here.

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Speaker 3: Uh, somehow, Jaylen Warren's only rostered in forty six percent

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Speaker 3: of leagues.

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Speaker 2: He's up blowing up fantasy wise, but he looks apart. Well.

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Speaker 3: They took an eighteen yard catch off of him last night,

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Speaker 3: true turned it into a ten yard run instead, which

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Speaker 3: probably costs quite as good. Right, Yeah, it cost people

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Speaker 3: some points there. But he should be in every league though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even with Patterson, he's out there on every

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Speaker 3: third down, nine carries for forty six yards.

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Speaker 2: He had two catches for thirteen yards. I mean, and

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Speaker 2: he looks apart to me. That's the beauty of it is,

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Speaker 2: so the numbers will come and.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be bigger games. I mean, but he

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Speaker 3: still had sixty sixty total yards.

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Speaker 2: Like what's hurting him? His nauge. He's been so good.

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Speaker 2: Nause's been really good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm not real interested in Isaac Garrenda at this point

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Speaker 3: because it looks like McCaffrey's going to start ramping things

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Speaker 3: up and we'll see about I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not sure what Mason's situation is, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's like dire. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook, by the way, he's rostered in twenty four

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Speaker 3: percent of leagues. So their next three opponents are Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston.

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Speaker 2: They're in a little bit of trouble. Yeah. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: think they're in trouble. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really about it. With the with the running

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Speaker 2: He's been picked up, yeah, should be Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman nineteen percent rostered. I'm interested, Yeah, I'm absolutelych

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Speaker 3: of targets. Yeah. I really liked him coming out of school.

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Speaker 3: He's been very quiet because he plays the exact same

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Speaker 3: position as Cooper, and now that Cooper's Yeah, and you

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Speaker 3: actually have a competent quarterback. Yeah, I think he's worth

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Speaker 3: putting some money in and probably would be like a

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Speaker 2: You say competent quarterback. Competent fantasy quarterback to me is

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Speaker 2: what Jameis Winson crippling. He threw three passes right to

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Speaker 2: Ravens players that they dropped.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, including one right before he threw the touchdown pass

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Speaker 3: to Tilman that would have ended the game that Kyle

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Speaker 3: Hamilton just dropped.

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Speaker 2: But yes, for our purposes here, for fantasy purposes. He's

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Speaker 2: better for the Browns in general, no question, anyone would be,

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Speaker 2: and but he's certainly better for them. He still puts

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Speaker 2: the ball in a arm's way an awful lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there were some whoa Jamis moments that I thought he

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Speaker 2: he may never. Yeah. Keon Coleman rostered in forty one

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Speaker 2: percent of little I'd grab him. Yeah, he's growing on

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Speaker 2: me more and more. Yeah, it looks good. And now

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Speaker 2: he's he's getting the single coverage with Cooper there. They

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Elijah more roster than two percent of leagues. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm not there yet, there. How many pass catchers can

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Speaker 3: you have out of that offense?

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Speaker 2: I know, because the jok who's gonna get his Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've just always had a soft spot for More. I

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Speaker 2: liked him coming out of school. But his career is

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Speaker 2: not gone as I expected at all, no any step

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Speaker 3: Weird more of a it shows you how bad the

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Speaker 3: Ravens defense was. Yeah, that they like all these you know,

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Speaker 3: receivers in Cleveland are not Oh they're all relevant now.

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Speaker 2: But real quick, we'll get back to this Deyontay going there.

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Speaker 2: You're not happy about it with Deontay No, I mean

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Speaker 2: he used to be the number one. Now he might

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Speaker 3: You're probably not happy about it as a Flowers owner

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Speaker 3: because now maybe Flower because Flowers. The offense in Baltimore

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Speaker 3: has been very Flower centric to the receivers.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's got the body to deal with

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Speaker 3: So maybe they don't want to throw get him ten

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Speaker 3: targets per game. Maybe they want to cut it back

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Speaker 3: to seven or eight and have Deontey do some of

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Speaker 2: And it hurts both of them. Bateman hasn't been like

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Speaker 2: fantasy relevant, but he hasn't been a bad player either.

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Speaker 3: No, you know, like, I don't think other than completely

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Speaker 3: losing the ball in the sun and taking it off

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Speaker 3: the face mask.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be like a heavy

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Speaker 2: eleven team always. No, I don't think so either. And

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy's rostered in just forty five percent of leagues,

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Speaker 2: rather Judy or more. I know Judy's going to be

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Speaker 2: on the field more, but I don't love the player.

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Speaker 2: I don't either, But he's not horrible. No, he's been

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Speaker 2: really irrelevant with Watson. Yeah, Ricky piarsol roster in thirty

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Speaker 2: seven percent of leagues. I'm kind of interested like them

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Speaker 2: coming out. Looks like he's adapt pretty well, good offense,

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Speaker 2: There'll be some opportunity. Yeah, Jennings is ahead of him though, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think so. H. Matthew Stafford rostered in just thirty

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Speaker 2: nine percent of leagues. He's got his weapons, got the

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Speaker 2: weapons back, The band's back together. That's the team that

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Speaker 2: the band was back together. Yeah, exactly, and well coached

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Speaker 2: and getting it. And he needs to throw touchdowns though,

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Speaker 2: and he usually does well. He didn't this year. Without those,

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Speaker 2: he had as many touchdowns on Sunday or Thursday night

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Speaker 2: as he had all season. I mean as a ram

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Speaker 2: he throws touchdowns, yeah, when he has all his guys,

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Speaker 2: but he's gots dudes. Yeah, and I don't think anyone's

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Speaker 2: getting traded.

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Speaker 3: Bo Nix is rostered in twenty five percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem though, Baltimore coming this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Baltimore, then they go at Kansas City, then

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Speaker 2: they play Atlanta. I don't think the chances of them

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Speaker 2: staying as an AFC playoff team is good. They don't

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Speaker 2: sound real live. Yeah, they don't sound real good. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know the upcoming schedule. But he runs a lot.

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Speaker 2: He runs, and he's getting a little He might be

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Speaker 2: running for his life though. Yeah. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers rostered

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Speaker 3: Without Nico or they just gave up twenty five points

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Speaker 2: Open season on you, because yeah, their beds not as

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Speaker 2: A five game losing speaker. Yeah, four or five. Dallas

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Speaker 2: think I start the Bears. Not. I'm not going out

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Speaker 2: Detroit is that Green Bay? No, No, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what happened last week. The Rams are

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Speaker 3: Actually, Indianapolis is at Minnesota, but.

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Speaker 2: they gonna blitz Flacco like they would have blitzed Richardson? No,

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Speaker 2: they probably will because that's what they do, but it's

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Speaker 2: not maybe the best move. I mean, that's great, it's

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Speaker 2: Downs looks great. Start the Colts. No, No, we got

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Speaker 2: To see played somebody terrible too that those rates to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only two defenses off or two teams off

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Speaker 2: Nine ers yeah, which prettycent teams. Yeah, two good defenses

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Speaker 2: this week or whatever soever. They can not a great

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Speaker 3: Like the bad teams are all playing the bad teams, right,

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Speaker 2: Like ram Seahawks is a pretty good game, but it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Dallas Atlanta will get eyeballs on it

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Speaker 2: I'm all screwed up over everything we got to talk about.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: uh well it's time for the the uh Power Rankings

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Speaker 3: here NFL dot com done by Eric.

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Speaker 2: Ed Holme, and he's getting away from us. Already it

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Speaker 2: up at the bottom. The Panthers are still at number

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Speaker 2: thirty two. We're one week off from the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: Is there anyone that they shouldn't trade? Anyone that they

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Speaker 3: Some of the offensive linemen maybe like Ikey. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: You could probably get like if I'm the Ravens, I'm

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Speaker 2: well Clowney's hurt. I know he's banged right. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: mean that they don't do that very often. That would

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Speaker 2: They're two and six, moved out of the I think

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Speaker 2: back on the field just because he's shot got potential

434
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: At twenty nine down a spot, the Raiders. Raiders are terrible,

435
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: so they're not far I was about to say they're

436
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 2: not far off this group, but what I tell you

437
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 2: they covered against Kansas City. No did that. It came

438
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: in the back door move. I think Myers can know.

439
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: They've already said they're not trying to know they they

440
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: have to. They have to try to.

441
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: Do something to sell tickets in Las Vegas because there's

442
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 3: just so much going on there.

443
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 2: If I'm the Lions, I'd give you so much from

444
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: Mexico and it's such a destination. I get it right?

445
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: Are they are conundrum? They can't trade. They can't trade

446
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: Max Crosby. They're not going to trade Max Crosby. But

447
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: maybe they'll trade with Kobe Myers. Yeah, I think you

448
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: could get Myers. Receivers are moving all over the place,

449
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: all over At twenty eight, down a spot Jacksonville. It's

450
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: pretty miserable. They're gonna get fired soon. Yeah, they're gonna

451
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: get fired soon. Go to the receivers now too. Yeah.

452
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk out for the year, is going to miss time?

453
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah real, yeah, not so good. Ye kind of shocked

454
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: at m still a jag. I don't know if he

455
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: one wants the running backs. At twenty seven, up three

456
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 2: spots the Cleveland Browns. They should be trending up so

457
00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: by this By these rankings, the Baltimore Ravens have lost

458
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 2: to the thirtieth best team in the league and the

459
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: twenty seventh best team in the league. I thought only

460
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin lost. Everyone's kill Tomlin. When you lose to

461
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: a bad team, like no one never happened, Like it

462
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: never happens, never happens to anybody else. Only Tomlin's team

463
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: does that. Yeah, everyone just always covers a spread and

464
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,239
Speaker 2: everybody beat every team and easy in this league. And

465
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: it worked out okay for Harbaugh. But they line up

466
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: for a third and one in Cleveland territory and I

467
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: think it was the third or fourth quarter in a

468
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: one score game. They got Derrick Henry, they got Lamar Jackson.

469
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: Who do they have under center? Charlie Kohler really and

470
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: he false started that they get their third string tight

471
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: end under center and third and one, he false starts

472
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: and moves it back to a third and six. I

473
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: mentioned it earlier. That's like the Bears handing it to

474
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: a backup guard and the go ahead touchdown. Yeah.

475
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, in a game that they

476
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: lost by one scorer, Justin Tucker.

477
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: Missed a kick again. That's becoming common. He's three of

478
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: three of his last ten on fifty plus kickyard kicks.

479
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: Three of ten. Well, really bad. That's the last two

480
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: seasons I want if he retires, I think he might,

481
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: you know, like gets pushed out slash retires. Derrick Henry

482
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: had eleven carries. Yeah, that's great, an average six point

483
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: nine yards per attempt, and you gave the ball to

484
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: him eleven times in a game that you lot like

485
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: coaching male practice. Yeah, that's brutal coaching practice. Mean, the

486
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: past defense we know has been a problem, and it

487
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: still was get some d backs out and so they

488
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: dropped him interceptions. Yeah, but still I think they need

489
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: they trade for Deontae Johnson. I bet they're not done.

490
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: I bet they do something to help the pass defense.

491
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: It sure seemed like they're all in at twenty six

492
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: holding steady? Are the Giants? Yeah, they're better than all

493
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: those They're better than the teams below. Yeah, I mean

494
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: them versus the Browns right now would be an interesting battle.

495
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: They're better than the next team at twenty five down

496
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: a spot? Are the Saints? Oh, Saints should be Wait

497
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: the Saints are and raider Land. Yeah it's over. They

498
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: can't even operate right now. No, it's over that. It's

499
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: not over for the Giants, but they're starting. I mean

500
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler got pulled for Jake Hanner. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: So we were looking at the playoff picture. There's only

502
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: three teams in the NFC that I think have no

503
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: chance Saints, Giants, Panthers. Yeah. That's why that's why the

504
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: Rams aren't trading Cooper Cup. Yeah. Back then, right, there's

505
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: thirteen teams that have a strong case. At twenty four

506
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: down two spots, the Jets. They're every bit that bad. Yeah,

507
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: I mean they get no mojo. Are the Giants better

508
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: than the Jets? No? On paper, but I would pick

509
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: them to win straight up right now in that stadium,

510
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: you know that they both play, and it just depends

511
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: on who's the home team. I would pick the Giants

512
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: no matter what. They wouldn't block that guy. Those guys, no,

513
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: they wouldn't. Yeah, Rogers will get hit and Lawrence would

514
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: land on him and he'd get grumpy and they'd probably

515
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: run on them. At twenty three, somehow they moved up

516
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: two spots because all these teams stink Miami. I guess

517
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: they should. They're better on all those teams, I guess,

518
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: but they're not good. Who wins the two and five?

519
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: They just lost and going to Buffalo this week? Good

520
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: luck with that. Yeah, there's seasons. But then at twenty two,

521
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: down two spots, the Bengals. That's the neighbor the bed

522
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: at her defense stinks smoked. They got pushed around. They're soft. Yeah,

523
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: and you take one weapon away from Burrow and he

524
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: doesn't look like Joe Burrow I don't know the numbers,

525
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: but in this era, really what they did this offseason

526
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: was they took two weapons away from Burrow because they

527
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: got rid of Mixon, who looks great in Houston, and

528
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: the two running backs that are trying to you know,

529
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: I was a Moss guy. He ain't it and Brown

530
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: ain't it. What I was. I say, though, is during

531
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: this like Burrow era, when they have Higgins chasing Burrow

532
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: on the field, they win a lot. When they have

533
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: any of them missing, they lose a lot. Yeah, that's

534
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: too fragile, it's way too frank, and you're not gonna

535
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: bring Higgins back next you know, Yeah, then afford it, right,

536
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: And because they got to restock the defense, they have to.

537
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 2: I heard a good conversation about this. If you get

538
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: a draftistory dot com and look at the Bengals last

539
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: five years, Guys that should be on rookie deals four years,

540
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: five years, they'll getting like nothing from any of them,

541
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: and most of it's on defense. Now, Murphy first round picks,

542
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's not good back Hill. You know

543
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: how you blow your window right at hit them picks

544
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: twenty one down, two spots, Dallas. I think we're getting

545
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: into teams that still have a chance. But I think

546
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: the Bengals still have a chance. But I guess Miami

547
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: still has a chance. But this seasons have gone disastrously wrong.

548
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: At twenty up three spots, the Rams trending the right direction.

549
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna be hard to play with as long as

550
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: Stafford has cup in Nikupa. At nineteen down one spot

551
00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: the Colts. Where would you rank them though? I mean

552
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 2: I think if the rank them as if they have Flacco, Yeah,

553
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: I think that makes them better. It makes them better. Yeah,

554
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: and that's about where they belong, though with Richardson, they're lower.

555
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: They're four and four. You know, at eighteen up three

556
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: spots you were seeing a quarterback take themselves out of

557
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: the game. No, never, never, sanity to me. I mean,

558
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: if you got to, you've got a might, just tell hey, coach,

559
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: let's run the ball here. I'll get back to the huddle. Yeah. Yeah,

560
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: eighteen up three spots Arizona. Is that too high for them?

561
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: I know they're leading their division. They're four and four,

562
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: just beating not so great Miami team was in Miami though. Win,

563
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: that's a nice win. Yeah, Tyler played really well. Harrison's

564
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: doing well. They're a jacko and hide team. Yeah, they are.

565
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: They just you just don't know what you're gonna get

566
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: each weak kind of like Indianapolis, So they belong in

567
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: that same kind of like the next team. It's seventeen

568
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: down three spots Seattle. Yeah. I heard some people talking

569
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: about this is the time of the year where they're

570
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: ultra young. Coaching staff starts to get in over their head,

571
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: you know, like adjustments to adjustments in the course of

572
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: the season. I can see that they got beat up

573
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: bad at home at sixteen down three spots the four

574
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: and four Buccaneers. Without those weapons, I think a lot

575
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 2: of the teeth came out of the Buccaneers. The defense

576
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: hasn't been great. No are force and stuff. Yeah. At

577
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: fifteen up two spots the Chargers. Yeah, I'm liking them

578
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: more and more by default because everyone around. Yeah, they're fine.

579
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: Herbert looks great. Our boy mcconkey's a dude. They play

580
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: good defense. That's gonna get them in the playoffs probably

581
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: they all schedule. Yeah. Uh. At fourteen up two spots,

582
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Are they a sleeping giant or they are

583
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 2: what they are? They still have some words the injury

584
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, I mean that's just when things

585
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: look like they're a little better at something bad, Like

586
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: they're to me light years behind Detroit. Yeah, Green Bay.

587
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: Would they still be your bet to win the division?

588
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: I think they were probaby for me. Yeah, probably, But

589
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: I only think one team out of that division is

590
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: going to go in the NFC. Yeah, with us out,

591
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: it's all four and four old or less. Yeah, at thirteen,

592
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: I think the forty nine ers are better than this team,

593
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: but thirteen down two spots are the Bears. I agree there,

594
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: I mean they're That was a horrendous loss, and Caleb

595
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: was bad for most of the awful Yeah, I mean

596
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: awful almost all of it. He was a problem against

597
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: just a bad defense going to happen, right, and he

598
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: should do more against that defense. Yeah, and they didn't.

599
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: You know they didn't. You can't let somebody get behind

600
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: you on a hail Mary, You just can't. You can't

601
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: be talking to the fans either. You got seven guys

602
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: who go for the football and nobody takes the guy

603
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: behind it because they all want to, they all want

604
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: the gloria trying to go for the interception. It makes

605
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: you wonder, like did they ever coach it probably not.

606
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Didn't look like it. It didn't look like it. I mean

607
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: there's pretty set rules to that. Yeah, you didn't follow

608
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: them at twelve up three spots Atlanta. I think they're

609
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: the best team yet based on the offense. Yeah, it's

610
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: all about the offense. Yeah, I don't think they're contender.

611
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: And Kyle Pitts waking up looking like a dude. Yeah, yeah,

612
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: they got dudes. It's always somebody that way, you know.

613
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: At eleven. And we said this way back after week

614
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: two that the Steelers wins against the Falcons and Broncos,

615
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: who are at eleven up a spot much better. Yeah,

616
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: look much better now than they did at the time.

617
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: I think Denver is a really hard schedule they do.

618
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: We just talked about that. They got oh yeah yeah,

619
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks here at Baltimore at Kansas City, right, hello,

620
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: five and five? Yeah, but still, I mean, be right

621
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: in the mix on the AFC. If you're five hundred

622
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: with that roster, you're doing okay. Yeah at ten, the

623
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Eagles holding steady. I think they're getting better. That doesn't

624
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: mean they should move a power ranks, because then somebody's

625
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: to go down, But I think they're coming into form.

626
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: I think there's a clear cut ten top ten teams

627
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: right now.

628
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Fort are a lot better than the forty nine. Ers

629
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: could push into that. Yeah, they might be the only

630
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: team though. Yeah, I don't think like since he's getting

631
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: back up. No, they're too many holes. But could the

632
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Eagles win the Super Bowl? No, that's I mean, that's

633
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: asking a lot. I don't. I don't think they're not

634
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: as currently constructed. They still got some holes. But like

635
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: the Jean's playing well, yeah, and Mitchell's playing well and

636
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson, but Jalen Hurts is not. No, it was

637
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: his best game as yet, but it was strangles.

638
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, at nine holding steady, the Steelers, I might have them.

639
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: A little bit higher. I wouldn't have them lower. No,

640
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm definitely half of them over everybody listed. I mean,

641
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: I know some teams coming up, of course, are pretty

642
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: during good. At eight the Texans, I think the Steelers

643
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: right now, the Texans are in trouble. I think the

644
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Steelers right now are better than the Texans too. And

645
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: my reasoning isn't much about the Steelers, it's what's happening

646
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: to the TEXTA two receivers and the O line situation.

647
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: It's too much on Stroud.

648
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have lost to the Colts if if

649
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson isn't historically bad right throwing the football.

650
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean thirty three percent or something like that, I

651
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: mean unbelievably and he threw like over thirty times. Yeah,

652
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: I think it was ten for thirty three or something

653
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: like that. How does that happen? And they don't run

654
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: him that much, becau they don't want them to get hurt.

655
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: I think that comes from ownership, you know, like, well,

656
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: I would love to know who said we got to

657
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: take this guy? Would they take him fourth overall? Third overall? Yeah?

658
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like him as a prospect then I

659
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: certainly don't like him any better now.

660
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: I like him a lot less now. As a rookie,

661
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: he had a lot of flashes. I mean didn't finish games.

662
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: He couldn't finish games. And it's no different than his

663
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: college stats, Like he started tenk you have games like

664
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: But part of me is like, if you draft him,

665
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: you know that you have to be unbelievably patient with it,

666
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Like you had this conversation before the draft he was not,

667
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: but then you decided to start him and then he

668
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: gets keeps getting hurt, he keeps getting hurt, and it's

669
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: just a rabbit hole.

670
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad out of a Steelers over the Texans. I'd

671
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: have the Steelers over this next team. It's seven down

672
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: three spots. The Vikings, I would too. You can't lose

673
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: two in a row the way you did and only

674
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: go down three spots. I think they understand they were

675
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: number one a couple of weeks ago in his rankings.

676
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: But there's got a bit of a fugazi at one too. Yeah,

677
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: you know, like they're good, not great. Yeah, there'll be

678
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs, probably lose the first round like they they

679
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: could have lost to the Giants in Week one. That

680
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: was a one score Like it wasn't that, you know?

681
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: I the Steelers Yeah and again Yeah, lost starting left

682
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: tackle for the season. I think Hawks back this week, Yeah,

683
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: which will help it something. Yeah.

684
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: Uh at six are the Packers holding steady? I'm very

685
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: cool with that. I think yeah, five up two spots

686
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: or the Manders. I can't that's a bit right.

687
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: I probably have the Commanders over the Steelers, and they're

688
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: the next opponent. I think they've earned that. But they

689
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a head of Green Bay. No, no, definitely not.

690
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: I'd have them over Houston at four down two spots

691
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: of the Ravens should be they should go backwards? Should

692
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: they go further back than that? They're five and three.

693
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: I think I have the Packers ahead of them.

694
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: They got two, they're they're two. There are two of

695
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: their three losses are worst, the worst losses.

696
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Of anybody in the top ten. Oh, there are two

697
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: of the worst losses of the season in the NFL. Yeah,

698
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: no question. Their their offense is.

699
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: Good when they give Derrick Henry the football when they

700
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: don't get in their own way. If you look at

701
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: some of the losses when they've lost, they lost to

702
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Henry wasn't a factor at all because they

703
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: didn't give them the ball.

704
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game against the Raiders, that's another one. When

705
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: you make them move in the front office and have

706
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: the conversation, it's a dedication. Well, and if you remember,

707
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: he's off for everybody.

708
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: After after week two, Harball was asked about you know,

709
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: why isn't Derrick Henry being used more?

710
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't get him to do that. Then why

711
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: did you get him? Then you've got him for the

712
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: wrong reason. Yeah, that's what he does best, right. Yeah.

713
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: At three up two spots this week, Baltimore has Denver. Okay,

714
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: the Bills are up two spots to three. I really

715
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: like what they're doing. They're playing much better. Yeah, I

716
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: thought the defense would be worse at two down a spot.

717
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Detroit's better than Cansatroit. Now. Detroit's the best

718
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: team in the league right now. Spots pretty clear. Yeah,

719
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: I mean they're just mashing teams like Kansas City got

720
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: Hopkins a little involved. That's kind of exciting. They drafted

721
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: for Uce or traded for Uce. Okay, that's kind of okay.

722
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: Detroit's mashing people though. Yeah, even without Hutchinson the right right,

723
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: I would be in the market for a defensive end

724
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: if I were them. Yeah, I mean, I don't know

725
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: if you can get Crosby or Garrett, but you can

726
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: probably get Reddick or there's probably a name out there.

727
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm in it the winner with that guys,

728
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: with that team, Yeah, I mean, the quarterback's playing well.

729
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: He's the MVP comer. They threw for less than a

730
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: hundred yards throw.

731
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 3: He threw three touchdown passes. The ball and the ball

732
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: never hits the ground. He has many incompletions as he

733
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: did touchdown passes.

734
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: And that's becoming common with them. Yeah, and they're getting

735
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: a lot of yardage like on special teams, and the

736
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: Brian branches of the world are really playing well. And

737
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: special teams might be the most underrated part of the game.

738
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's more important now than ever because

739
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: it's so hard to get explosives on offense, you know,

740
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: talk about that.

741
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick look at the DVOA because

742
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: I want to look and see who are the top

743
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: special teams teams in the or the top teams in

744
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: special teams in the league should be one and see

745
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: where they rank in terms of overall record. You can't

746
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: be a bad football team and have bad special teams

747
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: or good spell it just doesn't match up.

748
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: It's definitely a contributing factor. Yeah, let's do that when

749
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,840
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Speaker 3: Audio Network, and Matt, I promise we'd look at the

766
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Speaker 3: DVOA rankings here on the FTN Fantasy and look at

767
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Speaker 3: the special team rankings, and surprisingly enough, some of the

768
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 3: top teams don't have good special teams.

769
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: Detroit's number one. I know, they've been really good esventually

770
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: we had, they got a lot of yardage out of returns.

771
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean they were great this past week. Okay, Dallas

772
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: is number two. That's basically largely on their on their

773
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 2: kick returns and yeah kicker. Yeah.

774
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 3: The Steelers are three, and I think they're three because

775
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: nobody kicks the ball to them on kickoffs.

776
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: So you just have to like get basically just a

777
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: wash in that phase, yeah, which is important.

778
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: Like right now they're dead last in kick return average

779
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: because they've only returned like three kicks. I think it's four,

780
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: maybe four five at tops, and it's all been the

781
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: guys that you wouldn't want returning kick like it's been

782
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: your fourth and fifth running backs have been doing it.

783
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: So crazy enough, like that phase the best might be

784
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: yet to cop. Oh yeah, I mean it probably is. Yeah,

785
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean down the stretch, I mean, yeah, Patterson is

786
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: going to be a weapon. Yeah.

787
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: I kept waiting for Jalen Warren to return one last

788
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: because they kicked about halfway into the endzone. I think

789
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: the final the Steelers' final kickoff their actually last chance

790
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: for a return. They're up eight points and they get

791
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: the kickoff with two fifty nine left, and I'm like, huh,

792
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: why don't you bring it out? Maybe you remember how

793
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: deep it was.

794
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: It was about halfway in the end zone, like A,

795
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: you're going to run some clock. B People never think

796
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: of that. That's a big Belichick thing, is kick it

797
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: inbound or make sure that they return it because that's

798
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: clock late. Yeah, you know, but then you might bust one.

799
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: You've you spent the whole game, didn't have good special

800
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: teams coming in.

801
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have good special teams units, and those guys,

802
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: it's only human nature that on the last kickoff of

803
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: the game, after they've downed every other one, that.

804
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: Might just jog down there a little bit. It might

805
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: just take a little off there and maybe maybe a

806
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: bust one. I think I'm right on this, but I

807
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: noticed early the Steelers kicked it in the zone early

808
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: and then they're like, I think we got the center control.

809
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: We'll just do the touchback thing. Yeah. Yeah, So, uh,

810
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: Denver is fourth. That's huge. It's huge for them. I mean,

811
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: that's the way they have been. That's like old school

812
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: Steeler football, where we're not gonna get much on offense.

813
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: We got to grind it out. We need to win

814
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: the margins. That's huge for them. I bet that's a

815
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: big reason why they're in the playoff mix. Fifth is

816
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: New Orleans. Kind of surprised by that, Yeah, me too.

817
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: Jacksonville is sixth. We'll surprised by that too. I mean

818
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: I haven't broke down any of these special teams units,

819
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: of course, but Washington is seventh, hidding the yardage that's important.

820
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: Chicago is eighth. Okay, they've had a good year. Houston

821
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: is ninth, in Indianapolis is ten. Those are your special teams,

822
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: the top ten special team units on in DVOA according

823
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: to FT and Fantasy. And they take everything into account.

824
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh they do. They absolutely do a couple of things

825
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: I want to dig into. I know we won't have

826
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: a ton of time, but we were the bottom five

827
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: or ten, and I wonder, and I don't feel strong

828
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: about this. Aaron Shots always said special teams is one

829
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: eighth of the pie, you know, three of its three

830
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: pieces or the defense for offense one special teams? Might

831
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: it be one and a half? Now? Is important? I mean,

832
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: so many people are making field goals? Does that make

833
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: it less important than fifty yard field goals? Not as

834
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: hard as it used to be? Well, apparently it is

835
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: for Baltimore. It is for them. He used to be.

836
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: They were always in the top. They lost that game

837
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: by six points to the Browns, six points or five.

838
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: It was twenty nine, twenty fours. They lost by five points.

839
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Tucker missed that fifty It was fifty yard field goal,

840
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: not a that's kind of a chip shot nowadays.

841
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: I mean, what, there's no difference, not a lot of

842
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 3: difference anyways between a forty nine yard and a fifty

843
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: yard er about one yard different, about.

844
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: One yard three feet really, and he missed it. They're

845
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: in field goal range at the end of that game,

846
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: trying to get a touchdown because they need a touchdown

847
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: because mister automatic missed another field goal. That's gotta be

848
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: weird for Harbaugh because like it was basically like when

849
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: they would cross midfield, like you know, it's really weird

850
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: for Harbaugh. They're twenty fifth in special team right now.

851
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: That's actually my next question. They're not good, I bet

852
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: since he's bad too. Just a hunch they're better than that.

853
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee's dead last thirty two, they got like nothing. The

854
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: Giants are thirty one. They went down after they were

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Speaker 2: like twenty eight going into the game last night. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Jets are thirtieth. Okay, San Francisco is twenty ninth.

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00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: They've had a kicker injury, kicker injury, but it's also

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00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: a top heavy roster. I would say they also don't

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Speaker 2: keep course special team or yeah, they can't afford them.

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Speaker 2: And then Buffalo is twenty eighth. Huh that kind of

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Speaker 2: surprises me. So there's some teams there that you look

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Speaker 2: at and you go, these might these are some teams

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Speaker 2: that you might run into down the road where you

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Speaker 2: might have a distinctive vantage advantage right on special team.

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Speaker 2: Like if I was Buffalo, I'd be like, if I'm McDermott,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we gotta get this fixed. Yeah, we might

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Speaker 2: spend little more time in practice, or pick up a

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Speaker 2: Matticicavitch type off the street. Let Tyler Matdackkavitch go this

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Speaker 2: offseason exactly when it needed. Tampa Bay twenty seventh, Green

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Speaker 2: Bay twenty sixth, Baltimore twenty fifth, that's rare, Carolina twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is twenty third, and the Rams are twenty two. Okay,

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Speaker 2: who was last again, Titans? Yeah, Cincinnati's eighteenth. I thought

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: they were worse. I thought they had more kicker problems.

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00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: They're twenty fifth in defensive DVOA that I think McPherson kicker. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. No, they're not going out. New

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Speaker 2: England another team that for years was really going to

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Speaker 2: special teams seventeenth. They were bad last year too. They

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Speaker 2: had major kicker problems last year, which was the root

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Speaker 2: of it. So it's it's you know, Kansas City's fourteenth. Okay,

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Speaker 2: middle of the road. Yeah, that's all right.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean some of these teams that you

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Speaker 3: you look at and say, these might be some playoff

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Speaker 3: type teams. Not great on special teams other than.

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Speaker 2: The Washington was top ten. I'm just saying about upcoming opponent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's seventh. Houston would be a potential playoff opponent.

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Speaker 2: They're nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Colts are in the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Denver is four, Eagles must be right in the middle.

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Speaker 2: I'm just being with teams that are on the upcoming

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Speaker 2: they're at thirteen. Yeah, okay, because you mentioned all the

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Speaker 2: teams in the north, Kansas City's good, not great. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so just something to keep an eye on. Oh that

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Speaker 2: some matters. Absolutely. I've talked about this a bunch, but

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Speaker 2: I put out the chart again of how much value

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Speaker 2: you're getting from turnovers on one axis and special teams

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Speaker 2: on one axis, and the Steelers are way way way

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Speaker 2: in the top right corner better than everybody else, and

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Speaker 2: Denver is the only one even like in the same hemisphere. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's huge, huge, it's a factor. It just is Matt.

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Speaker 3: That's going to do for the show today, Miki don't.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back again tomorrow. Got a couple of guests

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Speaker 3: lined up including Bob Labriola Labs of Mark Right. It's

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Speaker 3: uh living in the spears week. But that's going to

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Speaker 3: do it for our show today. So for my partner

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller running the Justin Miller hotline

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Speaker 3: and keeping us on the air here, and for Tyler

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Speaker 3: Vettmeyer making sure our video gets out there on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lollie.

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