1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey P. Joe pis of 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: BIA brighton early on a Monday morning, looking ahead to 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: the waiver wire with my good pal Jake Seely from 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the Athletic. We're gonna talk about some of the names 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: that we saw that could help us potentially in Week 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: eight and we gate certainly a lot of teams won't 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: be playing, so you're gonna need a lot of help, 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: a lot of depth. And luckily here Fantasy Pros, we 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: have all this depth too because we have Jake Seeley 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: joining us here on the team, and Jake, I want 12 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: to start out first with Bam Knight. I want to 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: start out with the Cardinals for a moment here talking 14 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: about this backfield. It's a player we talked about before 15 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: we can get to the actual other names to add in. 16 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: But Bam Knight is a guy that we talked about previously. 17 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: And it's funny because Jacoby percent under center looks very confident, 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: played pretty well. Now Eventually Michaeh. Parsons ate him alive. 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: But Michael Parsons does that to a lot of quarterbacks, 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: and credit to him but I was actually on the 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals yesterday, got him on the points there, got him 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: in the first half as the leader too. Because of 23 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers having to wait on the tarmac 24 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: for six hours were taking off. They were well behind schedule. 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: These guys are creatures of habit. They were not in 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: a good spot. Josh Jacobs was dealing with all sorts 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: of issues with his calf and then an illness too. 28 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Eventually the Packers won out. But I want to talk 29 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: about who wins out eventually with this backfield, because there's 30 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: always this ominous feeling of Trey Benson's return. You have 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: Michael Carter in this mix, So what do you do 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: with Bam Knight at this point if he's still out 33 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: there on the waiver wire and he can't play him 34 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: this week? 35 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you still pick him up. But I 36 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: think this might be a pickup and see if there's 37 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: a needy team out there, like maybe you have more 38 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: fab left, maybe you have priority left, and you can 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: go and get him as a piece because you bring 40 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: it up like all those reasons, by kudos to you 41 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: for making that bet and having that insight. I actually 42 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: didn't see that six hour news I wish I would 43 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: have seen it. I would have pulled off some other 44 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: things and made some adjustments. You were right to do. 45 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: So it really comes down to what it brought this 46 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: up before the show, As I said to you, is like, 47 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: who really expects the Cardinals to be in the lead 48 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: most of their games, let alone against the Packers? And 49 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: you brought up the six hours and I was like, 50 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: oh wow, I really wish I would have seen that, 51 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: because that's the thing out touched him, that being Bam 52 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Knight out touched him seven to two with the lead, 53 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: and then it was nine to six when they were 54 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: neutral or they were slightly behind for a brief part 55 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: of the game, so it was still nine to six 56 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: Bam Knight. But the idea behind Michael Carter was that 57 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: two minute drill passing downs when they're behind, he'll see 58 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: more of a fifty to fifty split. And I think 59 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: that's the concern, is that coming out of the by 60 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: are they going to be in more games where they're 61 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: either playing from behind or in a neutral script. And 62 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: that's where you get to the fifty to fifty And 63 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: this isn't Chuba Hubbard and Rico Daddle. This isn't going 64 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: back to the Defont the Freeman Tevin Coleman days. This 65 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: isn't one where you're like, oh, I want to start 66 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: both of them as top twenty options. This is get 67 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: the heck away while you can. So if you pick 68 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: up Bam Knight, if you have them, as you just said, 69 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: might be tough to trade during the bye, but you 70 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: can think forward to the week after that, because as 71 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: you said, Trey Benson's like week eleven ish and if 72 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: he's ready to roll, I mean that just throws both 73 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: of them to you can't use either at that point. 74 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: Well, I don't look at Benson as a completely viable 75 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: option either. So if you have him and somebody wants 76 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: him to trade, who already has parts of the Cardinals backfield, 77 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I would willingly move on because I don't think any 78 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: of us know exactly what that's going to look like 79 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: by the time we get to the weeks that he 80 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: is actually returning for the Cardinals. So let's start with Look, 81 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: there's two running backs on this list today that we've 82 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: been talking about in the off season, been talking about 83 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: slow burns, and I think a lot of us, including me, 84 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: started to run up the white flag last week on them. 85 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: The first one is Bishard Smith. I want to talk 86 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: about him because now all of a sudden, I'm up 87 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: at the flag pole and I'm pulling the flag down, 88 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and once again I'm excited about Bahard Smith. And look rightfully, 89 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: so now look it was you know that Las Vegas 90 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: came down out of hand real quick. Patrick Mahomes didn't 91 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: play in the fourth quarter. He had fourteen for thirty nine, 92 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: but he also had five catches on five targets for 93 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: forty two. So let's talk about how Smith might be 94 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: used here down the stretch. Because Kareem Hunt is an 95 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: older running back, Isaya Pacheco still looks the same. To me, 96 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: I feel like he has more yards going up and 97 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: down with his feet than he does going forward with 98 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: his feet. I don't know if that makes sense to 99 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: you at all, but let's talk about Smith here and 100 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: his role with the Chiefs going forward. 101 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: I think the interesting thing is you brought part of 102 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: the concern is that kream Hunt got hurt. So if 103 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: cream Hunt is out, this is kind of clears up 104 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: one of the issues. But I will say, let's also 105 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: temper expectations, because yes, we should be excited, but we 106 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: can also potentially go too far for people out there 107 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: that might be like, oh I just I saw the 108 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: box score. It was so exciting, Like forget the garbage time. 109 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: Brashar Smith has Jack McKinnon appeal, but he's not quite 110 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: Jack McKinnon. So because there's two things about him, is 111 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: that Brashar Smith didn't see a single pass blocking opportunity, 112 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: which shows that they probably don't trust him as such 113 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: where they would trust McKinnon as such. And there's limited 114 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: goal line us for Smith versus Jack McKinnon. So remember 115 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: Jerick McKinnon and he was an RB three with weekly 116 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: RB two even there was weeks where he's an RB one. 117 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: There was weeks where Jack McKinnon was giving fifteen plus 118 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: touches when they lost like everybody else and they were 119 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: down to McKinnon. So I say all to say is 120 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: like if cream Hunt is out, Yes, Brashar Smith as 121 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: an RB three and half a full point PPR. But 122 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: that's where you should temper your expectations. Is that's going 123 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: to be his range. If he gets a touchdown, he'll 124 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: be inside the top twenty. But this isn't going to 125 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: be a complete time share where it's like oh my god, 126 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: I really need to start forshad Smith as my RB two, 127 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: but we are thin at the waivers at this point 128 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: of the season. We are hitting this six team by 129 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: and they get the Commanders coming up next week, which 130 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: isn't as fearsome as they were like earlier in the season. 131 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: Not that they were like, oh my god, avoid the Commanders, 132 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: but they definitely haven't been playing as well recently. So 133 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: I think that's why you like Smith, but I just 134 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: I say that's a caution. Also, again, he's not going 135 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: to all of a sudden be a top twenty running back. 136 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: All right. Injuries had a lot to do with some 137 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: of our suggestions here, and with Jaalen Wattle injury and 138 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: everything that's going on potentially here with the Miami Dolphins 139 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: going in the bad direction, let's talk about League Washington 140 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: and how his role might expand over the week or 141 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: two ahead. 142 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bad direction for sure. Also, if you're 143 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: watching this on Thursday, you might have news and this 144 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: might be irrelevant. But as of today, first thing, Monday morning, 145 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: we were talking about this, there's potential no Jalen Wattle 146 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: or Darren Waller, which now you're like, oh my gosh, 147 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: who's left for the Dolphins? Good question, and they might 148 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: try who's left at this point, but it would be. 149 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: No coach by the time I get the Thursday. 150 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: That is true. There tay two Florida coach is fired 151 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: in one weekend. I put that in quotes hopefully for 152 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: Dolphins fans out there that happens for sorry all Florida fans. 153 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: But I will say like it really comes down to 154 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: Malik Washington's exciting. There was the excitement for Washington when 155 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill got hurt, but obviously Waller stepping in and 156 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: just the fact that they didn't really need them and 157 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: they turned to a chan in the backfield and there's 158 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: just nothing really left from Elak Washington. But at this point, 159 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: it could go the way of the commanders. It could 160 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: go the way of figuring out who the next person 161 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: was after Devonte Adams for the Rams, where the answer 162 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: was nobody, and the answer is going to be it's 163 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: just a complete mess and there's going to just be 164 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: nobody here. It'd be Westbrookakina catching a touchdown on every 165 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: third catch like he did last year. But Malik Washington 166 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: has the upside again because if Jalen Widle misses time 167 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: multiple weeks one, two, three weeks, and you have no 168 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: Darren Waller on top of it, They're going to need 169 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: somebody to throw to besides a Chan and Nick Westbroo Kakina. 170 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 2: So that's why Malik Washington is here. But as I said, 171 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: if you're watching this later in the week and Jalen 172 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: Wintell avoided a serious injury, he's out there. It's also 173 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: not the best matchup, by the way, with the Alcons 174 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: on tap. But people need options again, six team on 175 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: a buy because the NFL keeps screwing us over with this. 176 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Joe always every single time. Please don't even get me 177 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: started about these bipocalypse weeks. It's totally unnecessary. Like that's 178 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: the worst part about It's like, we don't have everybody 179 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: on a buy there. 180 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: What's thirty two divided by four weeks of four? 181 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: No, No, because that would be sensible and that would 182 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, make logic and all that nonsense. We don't 183 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: like that over here. All right, let's talk about Ronde 184 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Gadston here, tight end who for the Chargers starting to 185 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: emerge out. Wasn't just this big week here that he 186 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: had in week seven? If you go back to Week six, 187 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: he had seven receptions on a targets for sixty eight yards. Obviously, 188 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: yesterday a huge day seven for nine for one sixty 189 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: four and a touchdown. So this was the big coming 190 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: out party. He is widely free in a lot of 191 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: leagues right now. So let's talk about Gadson here because 192 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: this is yet another tight end off the waiver wire 193 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: in a year where the waiver wire is bearing some 194 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: fruit at the tight end position for a which is 195 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: really great. But what is Gadson going to look like 196 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: going forward? Do you think this was just a one 197 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: off based on what's been going on here with some 198 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: of these guys banged up, like you know, QJ hasn't 199 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: been healthy much the last couple of weeks, or do 200 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: you think that Gadson's really grown now into a spot 201 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: where the rest of the season he is a main 202 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: cog of this Chargers offense? 203 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Both? How about both? Do you have to throw that 204 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: out there? Sure like it's not mutually exclusive to say 205 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: that Gadson is a tight end option, but also to 206 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: say that, let's not overreacting, he's not going to be 207 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: an every week option because he just brought up like 208 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: there's a couple things. They were down twenty three to 209 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: three in the first half and through fifty five times. 210 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: We're not going to see Justin Herbert throw fifty five 211 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: times every single week and have that opportunity. At the 212 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: same time, even if Justin Herbert did throw fifty five 213 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: times every single week, he's not supporting four people like 214 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: at best, he's not supporting three most of the time. 215 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: As we already saw the three wide receivers, Quinton Johnston 216 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: was a thing, which Matt lad McConkey was a non factor. 217 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: Lad McConkey bounced back recently, but also Quinton Johnston got hurt. 218 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Somebody's always taking the back seat. And that's when I'm 219 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: gonna say this. If Gason's a true thing, and Gason 220 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: from this point forward is a tight end one, that 221 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: means Johnston's probably taken the back seat, especially for the 222 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: touchdown upside. But somebody of the wide receiver group is 223 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: going to fall off. I don't think it's going to 224 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: be Keenan Allen. So it comes down to Ladd versus Johnston. 225 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: If you saw that game yesterday, Ladd had the most targets. 226 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: Lad mccaukey managers are probably frustrated with the outcome of 227 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: fifteen targets. But the point being here is that Gaston's 228 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: a threat to Johnston, and I don't think Johnston's going 229 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: to completely fall off where it goes to this tight 230 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: end outside of four people basically is going to be 231 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: hit and miss every single week. You're gonna get fifty 232 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: percent good fifty percent bad. So yes, pick up Gatson. 233 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: That's why he's number three. Go pick him up. If 234 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: you need tight end help, you need tight end help 235 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: with six teams on a buyer say it, and again 236 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: you need tight end help because it's tight end. But 237 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: don't expect them to all say like if Gason goes 238 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: out in week eight and has one for thirteen, just 239 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: keep him out there the week after that and just 240 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: like until you have Like remember Juwan Johnson earlier this year, 241 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: it was fun until the wheels fell off. But you 242 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: just ride it until the wheels fall off. It's not 243 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: one game, wait two or three games before you're like, 244 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to move on to the next one and 245 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: don't watch. 246 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: The difference though Jake with Gatson is that like, this 247 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: is a rookie, so there's always this weird optimism there 248 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: when you have these young kids right where you go, Okay, well, 249 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's just you know, tight ends, Rookie tight ends 250 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: don't all, you know, show up like bron Bowers necessarily 251 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: and you have that a little bit more patience, right, 252 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: So I think that's why this is shaded with a 253 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: little bit more optimism. The guy like John Johnson, who's 254 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: been around the league for a while and we've seen 255 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: some one off weeks from him, I think the difference 256 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: with him was always Taysom Hill. You know, they get 257 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: in the red zone all of a sudden, Taysom Hill 258 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: is involved and the gimmick plays and all this stuff, 259 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of tight end. Equity for fantasy 260 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: is built around the red zone, and if those guys 261 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: aren't playing in the red zone, it's not a good look. 262 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: One guy that is starting to play a little bit 263 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: around there is the other running back that I teas 264 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: at the top of the show here Kyle man On Guy, 265 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: my guy who Jake knows. All I wanted for Christmas 266 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: was Kyle man On Guy to become the David Montgomery 267 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: and the Bears off. It's all I wanted. I guess 268 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: what this is what he did yesterday against the Orleans Saints, 269 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: thirteen for eighty one with a touchdown, had a couple catches. 270 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't care about that. That's not what I'm looking for. 271 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the thirteen for eighty one the touchdown. 272 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: That's what i want. Jake so he had never previously 273 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: this season had more than seven carries in a game, 274 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden almost double that yesterday. Once again, 275 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: I will ask this question, is this a game script, 276 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: is this a approach against the Saints that they were 277 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: just running? Or is this the future of what the 278 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Bears offense and backfield's going to look like with Monangay. 279 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: And Swift, And once again I'll give you a both. 280 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: This is really well, Okay, The interesting thing is you 281 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: just brought it up, is you don't really care about 282 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: the passing game for everybody out there, Like Joe wasn't 283 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: being flippant in that is that if you look at 284 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: it and if you look at Ben Johnson, okay, look 285 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: at Gibbs and Montgomery, what are they? Who is Montgomery? 286 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: Montgomery does catch balls sometimes, but as Ben Johnson does 287 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: with his running backs, the pass catcher is his lead. 288 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: Where like we've seen in the past years where it's 289 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: more of that first early down non pass catcher and 290 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: then the pass catcher compliment. Basically Tony Pollar and Taj 291 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Spears right now, even though Pollar can catch passes. But 292 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: my point being is this is he's basically Ben Jonson 293 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: is the reverse of what we expect with split backfields 294 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: where one gets sixty five percent of the work. And yes, 295 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: with got sixty five percent, Swift is still an RB two. 296 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Swift is still the running back that nobody wanted. That's 297 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: going out there and perfer RB two value. But now 298 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: mcmanon guy's in the mix, as you just brought up, 299 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: and maybe the Ravens fix what heever is going wrong 300 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: with that team during thereby, But the one thing they 301 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: can't fix is the injuries on defense. And maybe they 302 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: get a piece or two back, but they are still 303 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: highly exploitable against the run. So manan guy in a 304 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: sixteen by, he'll be an RB three this week in 305 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: my rankings. I can tell you that all right now. 306 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: I know everybody's like, oh, who are you gonna rank 307 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: It's Monday, it's too early. No, he will be an 308 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: RB three this week against the Ravens. 309 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and not against the Ravens, but also when you 310 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: consider how many teams are on bye, he is very 311 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: startable this week. Yes, he's gonna be startable as an 312 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: RB two. And I know because I've got a start 313 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: him in a couple of leagues where I've had them 314 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: all year, and I refused to drop him. I tried 315 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: everywhere to acquire Brashad Smith. I was unsuccessful. All I've 316 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: done is just stash all my com What's going to happen. 317 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: Right, Everybody's gonna get back on the Chase Brown train 318 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: against the Jets, and Minang Guy's gonna outscore this week. 319 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Watch it's not impossible. Although, man, I think the Jets 320 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: have just flat out just quit. I think it's I 321 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: think it's done. I think it's over. It's not that 322 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't over already, but I mean it's over over. 323 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Like you gotta just you can't even start these guys 324 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: now because they just have no no fight in them. 325 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy does he have any fight left? New York 326 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: Giants nine carries for forty six in a touchdown, no target, 327 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: so he wasn't involved in the receiving game there. But 328 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: at the same time, that was a well, I guess 329 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at this. It was a 330 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: very entertaining game, especially if you were a Denver Broncos fan. 331 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: You love the end of that game. Giants Vans, very 332 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: frustrating to watch, But you still feel better about the 333 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Giants in that loss than you did about the Giants 334 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: when Russell Wilson was still playing quarterback three weeks ago. 335 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: That's my take. 336 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm frustrated, as you know. I don't care about the 337 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: Giants anymore. I care about the fact that fifteen percent 338 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: of the survivor picks were going to be knocked out, 339 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: and the stupid Giants blew that, Thank you very much, 340 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: band kickers as well. On top of it, they get 341 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: the Eagles again, it's not as appealing, especially if Carter's 342 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: out there for the Giants. We know how much of 343 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: a difference maker that he is. This is similar to 344 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: this with seeing like Trent Williams being lost on the 345 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 2: offensive line for the forty nine ers. It's a big 346 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: impact whether or not he's playing. It sounds like he's 347 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: going to be fine again this week as he's been 348 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: back out there, So it's not as appealing going against 349 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: the Eagles, But The reason I throw Tracy in there 350 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: is just go grab him. People need running backs right now. 351 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: And then what you just brought up was interesting. Most 352 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: of those carriers came in the second half too, and 353 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: they had the lead until the fourth quarter. This kind 354 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: of goes down to the Cardinals situation is how many 355 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: times do you expect the Giants to have the lead? Well, 356 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: maybe more than you thought, as you just brought up 357 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson, So if you need running back help. 358 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: And then the biggest thing here is what we already know. Yes, 359 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Tracy lost the job. He lost the job to Scataboo, 360 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: whether or not because his injuries at Scataboo. We knew 361 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: this was going to happen at some point. But if 362 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Skataboo gets hurt because he runs like the effing Juggernaut, 363 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: at some point, Tracy could potentially have RB two value 364 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: because Tracy is one Scataboo injury away from having this 365 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: job back. 366 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly could be Cam's Cataboy, though, I mean, he's invincible. 367 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Let's not pretend like he's not. 368 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: I hope so, I. 369 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Hope so too. Before we get to a couple bonus guys, 370 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: quick shout out to Waiver Central is the tool that 371 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: can help continue your pursuit for a championship, So don't 372 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: miss out on snagging potential difference makers like Kyle Manongai 373 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: potentially and some other names we're talking about. Use waiver 374 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Central at fantasypros dot com, slash my playbook, or just 375 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: download the Fantasy Pros app so you can instantly view 376 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and all the suggested additions and drops as well for 377 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: your fantasy teams. Real quick, Pashall, Tuton, Isaiah Davis. Going 378 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: forward here in terms of stashes, I definitely feel like 379 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Breis Hall should get traded. I definitely feel like we 380 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: need just just tear it down, rip it all down, 381 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do, and that would make Davis useful. 382 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: And then let's talk about Tuton as well. Jake, what 383 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on those two guys before we get 384 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: out today. 385 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure you're stashing them. The big thing with 386 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: Tuton is that might get overlooked now that the Jaguars 387 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: aren't a buy, because we've talked about this before, a 388 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: lot of times people go to waivers and sert by 389 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: Projectors scores for the next week. He's not gonna show up, 390 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: but Travis Etn was exciting. He was like, Hey, he 391 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: was the answer. And then all of a sudden, over 392 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: the last two or three games, Etn started to fall 393 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: back off, and Touton's starting to get back into the mix. 394 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: And we know the explosiveness, and we know how many 395 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: times that changes happen after the buys with rookies, especially 396 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: if they're later to the midpoint, late in the season. 397 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Tooton's gonna come out of the 398 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: buy and take over, but a fifty to fifty split 399 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: if Tuton's involved, and then if it continues to continues 400 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: to continues, and then all of a sudden he does 401 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: have the sixty percent. Don't forget about toot And then, yeah, 402 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Isaiah Davis, you brought it up. Breee Hall also was 403 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: almost hurt and out of that game. He came back, 404 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: but we have a Breezehall injury history that whether injury 405 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: or trade, Isaiah Davis can step in as only an 406 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: RB two. Because you mentioned like the Jets team is 407 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: beyond miserable right now. 408 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly beyond miserable. That's a good way of describing 409 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: the Jets, or as I like to call them, as 410 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: good as the Jets. That's what I'm saying for it, 411 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: it's just as good as Jets. There you go. 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