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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for our first Date

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Leah. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her and see if she'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him

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Speaker 2: another date. But first, Zach, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Leah?

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Speaker 3: It's been about a week.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a sweet spot where people start to

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Speaker 4: panic a little bit, you know. I get that, though.

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Speaker 4: Have you tried to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: I have and honestly just going straight to voicemail.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh that's got to hurt. Yeah, anyway, tell

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Speaker 2: us about your date.

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Speaker 3: Well, we didn't do anything too crazy. I took her

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Speaker 3: dinner at my place and like, I really can cook,

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Speaker 3: so it was a good time. We played some Monopoly

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Speaker 3: and how long was the date?

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Speaker 2: Like seven hours? Monopoly takes forever.

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Speaker 3: Came over for dinner around seven, We started playing around

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Speaker 3: a thirty. She didn't leave for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a joke, but that's okay.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like you guys are really enjoying each other's

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Speaker 4: company ish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Like I even let her be the car,

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Speaker 3: so clearly she's winning. L I the well, we messed

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Speaker 3: around a little bit. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Like when you say messed around a little bit, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to give us like details, but once a

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Speaker 2: little bit, like did you guys hook up all the way?

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Speaker 2: That is details? Yeah, like all the details.

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Speaker 3: We had a good time.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: You know at the end, I thought we were we

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Speaker 3: were going to like hang out because she said, you know,

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Speaker 3: let's do this again, and I thought that was not facetious.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't really heard back.

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Speaker 4: Did anything happen like during monopoly or while you guys

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Speaker 4: were messing around? That may be a reason why.

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Speaker 3: No, Like so like during monopoly, everything was going great,

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Speaker 3: We're connecting and you know, everything like flowed really really well.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she's probably the most beautiful woman I've ever

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Speaker 3: seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: And oh okay.

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Speaker 3: It had me like wondering, like do I just have

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Speaker 3: bad lighting in my house? And like is it like

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Speaker 3: a nightclub in there? But like the only thing I

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Speaker 3: could think of is I have a picture of my

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Speaker 3: son by the door, and uh I noticed that she

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Speaker 3: glanced at it, but she didn't say anything, and uh,

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Speaker 3: maybe that pretty sure out.

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Speaker 5: Did she already know that you have a son?

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Speaker 3: No, Like, I didn't really know how to bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you didn't tell her you have a kid?

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Speaker 3: No, not yet.

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Speaker 2: See, I think that I'll be gold if you were dating,

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Speaker 2: if you're a single dad, I feel like that'd be good.

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Speaker 4: I mean some people are super into it. Meybing one

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Speaker 4: of those people about me. Yeah, well, so did you

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Speaker 4: notice her like looking at it? Was there a moment

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Speaker 3: No, she glanced at it, and you know, move forward,

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Speaker 3: everything seemed fine, nothing really changed. She asked me anything

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Speaker 3: about it, So I didn't think that there was anything there.

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Speaker 2: It could also be that you didn't mention it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, some things are just better left to

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Speaker 3: be discovered, right.

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Speaker 2: But I mean for her, she might be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he didn't tell me he had a kid, like he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe I should have just been led

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't lead with it, but there's definitely a place

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Speaker 4: where maybe that would come up in conversation, especially if

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Speaker 4: she's at your house with the picture. But did that

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Speaker 4: happen at the end of the night. In the middle

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Speaker 4: of the night. I'm just trying to see, like if

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Speaker 4: her mood shifted it all.

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Speaker 3: The very end of the night, right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. Zach is on the phone and he's not

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Speaker 2: getting a call back from Leah. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But before

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Speaker 2: we do that, Zach, refresh our memory about your day

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Speaker 2: with Leah.

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Speaker 3: So she came over to my place. I made her dinner,

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Speaker 3: We played Monopoly. We had an amazing time. I think

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Speaker 3: she's the prettiest thrill I've ever seen. And I've been

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Speaker 3: getting ghosted for about a week now.

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Speaker 4: Why was it again that you think you might be

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Speaker 4: getting ghosted?

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Speaker 3: I mean before she doubt she noticed the picture of

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Speaker 3: that freaked her out a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit because you didn't tell her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't really know where to

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Speaker 3: put that in a first date conversation.

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Speaker 2: You ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, speak to Leah. Please,

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Speaker 2: this is hard not going to have you. Leah was up.

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Speaker 2: This is a radio show it's called The Jebil Show.

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Speaker 2: How are you hi, Leah?

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Speaker 4: I Nina.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Victoria and my name is Jewbel.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. I didn't think people actually did this

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Speaker 5: in real life. I mean, like you hear clips online,

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Speaker 5: but I didn't know it was actually real.

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Speaker 2: So you actually have heard of the show?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, totally sweet.

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Speaker 2: Great. Well, Leah, do you know why we're calling.

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping I won something.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm hoping you did too. We do a segment

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Speaker 2: called the First Day Fall Up this where if you

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Speaker 2: go on a date with someone and you ghost them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to call you and ask why

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Speaker 2: you're ghosting them. Oh, I'm not telling you that for

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Speaker 2: no reason. That's the reason we're calling. You're ghosting somebody,

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Speaker 2: and they emailed us because they're wondering why you're not

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Speaker 2: calling them back, more specifically, why you're just sending him

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Speaker 2: to voicemail when they call you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well it's definitely Zac then, huh.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is. Oh, can you tell us why you're

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Speaker 2: ghosting him? He really wants to know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, the date was great. He's clearly a nice guy.

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Speaker 6: I think we had a lot of fun. But someone

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Speaker 6: has definitely been there besides me, and I think she was.

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Speaker 2: Cooking like right before you you mean, I mean.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised like that. His place is immaculate,

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Speaker 6: like it looks amazing, and I'm talking like this is

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Speaker 6: not guy's stuff, right, Like there's perfectly arranged flowers or

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Speaker 6: decorative pillows literally everywhere.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know that you know somewhere they've been

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Speaker 6: And I guess that's what I'm saying is like it

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Speaker 5: It's doing it wrong. It was very nice, and he

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Speaker 5: just kind of so this is where it gets where

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Speaker 6: So I mentioned that, I'm like, wow, your place is

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Speaker 6: really beautiful, and he goes He just like casually says, yeah,

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Speaker 6: my ex was an interior designer and still brings me

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Speaker 6: fresh flowers and decorates every once in a while.

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Speaker 4: She still brings him fresh flowers, I guess.

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Speaker 3: And I'm wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, it's

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Speaker 3: a week wait iss leah.

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Speaker 2: That's Zach. He's actually on the phone list thing. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, I didn't know you were high.

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Speaker 4: So let's pick back up. Zach, your ex brings you

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Speaker 4: in the flowers still to your house.

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Speaker 3: It's not like that, Like she's just an interior designer

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Speaker 3: and uh, we haven't been together in forever, and there's

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Speaker 5: There are throw pillows. No man has that many pillows.

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Speaker 5: I do unless someone else is acting.

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Speaker 2: I've got a pillows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah though, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean I like having a nice place,

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Speaker 3: and like I guess maybe flowers and pillows or a

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Speaker 3: bit much. But like she's not living there, Like I

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Speaker 3: can't just have a little bit of taste and appreciate

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Speaker 4: I don't even know that it's because you have a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can have flowers. I think they're cool. It's

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Speaker 6: clearly pretty, but they're coming from your ek.

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Speaker 3: All right, Wait, so this is absolutely nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with the you singing a photo of my son?

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Speaker 5: What son?

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Speaker 3: The picture that I though you glancing at on the wall.

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Speaker 5: So you lied to me twice.

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Speaker 6: Your ex decorates your house and you have a kid

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Speaker 6: that you never mentioned.

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Speaker 5: I feel like those big things to just skip over.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I get where you're coming from. Hill for

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Speaker 3: a second, it looks like reset. Okay, let's just start fresh. Hey,

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Speaker 3: give it a son. I have a good relationship with

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Speaker 3: his mom. She's an interior designer, and she keeps the

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Speaker 3: place nice for him, not me. She has a boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: by the way, and she's supported of whoever I choose

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Speaker 4: Wait, so backup, So your ex is also your baby mom?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's why she's still over. She brings my

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Speaker 3: it's probably for him to feel more comfortable, so that

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Speaker 3: his place that he's staying in with her is similar

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Speaker 3: in front of our kid, and like it creates a

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Speaker 3: have some throw pillows and some flowers, as long as

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Speaker 3: it makes my son happy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Zach, that's all well and good, but

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Speaker 1: I don't see why you couldn't have told me that sooner.

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Speaker 5: I really don't feel like this was when I should

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Speaker 1: I mean like, that's not something you just drop on

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Speaker 1: someone one after a date, and like, I just feel

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Speaker 1: like it feels like you held out on that, like

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Speaker 1: you kept it a.

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Speaker 5: Secret for me or something.

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Speaker 3: No. Like, Listen, you're the first person I've gone on

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Speaker 3: a day with in a very very long time. I

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Speaker 3: did intentionally. I'm actually interested in you. It's just I

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Speaker 3: didn't really know how to bring that up into the conversation.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was more of like a second day conversation.

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Speaker 3: I thought the first day was just to see how

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Speaker 3: we connect without complicating the scenario. It's not really something

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Speaker 3: I did intentionally, And I'm sorry if you feel like

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Speaker 3: that was what's helped for me, But that wasn't one.

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Speaker 1: Of those This is weird because when you asked me

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Speaker 1: about my family, I definitely mentioned everyone in it.

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Speaker 5: I didn't skip a child.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I would really love to like see you again

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Speaker 3: and take you out again. And you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: open towards it, you know, It's just I didn't know

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Speaker 3: how to bring that up in a conversation. This is

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Speaker 3: You're the first person I've got on a day with

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Speaker 3: since Lea.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to go on another day? Was that

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Speaker 2: will pay for it.

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Speaker 1: My heart wants to say yes, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: I should say no. I've had this happen to me before.

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Speaker 1: I've had an ex who held out that he had

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Speaker 1: kids and it did not go well.

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Speaker 5: Like, so, yeah, he had two and he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't tell me until like four months into dating, which

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Speaker 1: like obviously way worse.

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Speaker 5: But like, this just gives me bad vibes.

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Speaker 3: I'm not comfortable the fact that after a first day

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Speaker 3: you found out I have a kid. You're not comfortable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that if you don't want to

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Speaker 3: be around a kid. I mean, I don't think I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't bring out something.

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Speaker 1: As about your family and you didn't mention a child

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Speaker 1: Like that's lying, it's lying by omission.

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Speaker 3: I didn't lie to you. I just held the truth.

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Speaker 5: You sound like a delight. Yeah no, that's just like line,

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Speaker 5: but with wrapping paper on it.

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Speaker 3: I guess we can agree disagreeable.

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Speaker 5: If that's why you want to put it, fine, But

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Speaker 5: I know I'm not doing that again. I'm not going

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Speaker 5: down that road twice.

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Speaker 3: And that's the last time I let somebody win a monopoly.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Jubile's first Date follow up