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Speaker 2: But I don't know if there's any place i'd rather be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any place most of people

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Speaker 2: that I associate or that listen to this podcast, or

430
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Speaker 2: just casual sports fans would rather be than on a

431
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Speaker 2: Sunday with the NFL on in the background, whether your

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Speaker 2: team's playing or not. And the thing football, I think,

433
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: is really separated from everyone else, Like baseball is a

434
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Speaker 2: very localized sport. If you like Picotee, the Saint Louis Cardinals,

435
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Speaker 2: you'll watch their games, but you're not watching other games.

436
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Speaker 2: Basketball has really become that you watch your team, not

437
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: really much else until the playoffs. Football is the one

438
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Speaker 2: sport where if you don't give a shit about the

439
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Bills or the Dolphins. Let's just say you're a c

440
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: Battle Seahawks fan, you're watching that game. If you don't

441
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: care at all about the Bears Texans, guess what's on

442
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: Sunday night at your house that game Eagles Falcons. And

443
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: that's where football has you is you will watch other teams.

444
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: And this is what we talk a lot about with

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Speaker 2: college football, the ladder that is pumping these players in

446
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: that they have to stay in college for years. Like

447
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, college basketball was so big

448
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: because all the NBA players were in college for minimum

449
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: a couple of years, like Allen Iverson was there for

450
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Speaker 2: multiple years, Like what Steph Curry did fifteen years ago,

451
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Speaker 2: being a Davidson for several years. That doesn't happen anymore.

452
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Speaker 2: All these guys are won and done. They don't even

453
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Speaker 2: feel connected to their program. It's just it's diminished the

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Speaker 2: product because you don't get to build up stars. But like,

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited this week to see the rookie quarterbacks again. Like,

456
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Speaker 2: does Bo Knicks just get his ass kicked by the Steelers?

457
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Speaker 2: What does Caleb do if Keidan Allen and Roma Dunes

458
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Speaker 2: they aren't able to play against the Houston Texans? Does

459
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: he bounce back from last week? Jade Daniels like, is

460
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Speaker 2: he just good enough to beat a shitty Giants team? Well,

461
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't care if they were just kind of random

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Speaker 2: people that I didn't know about. I've been following Caleb's

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Speaker 2: career for three plus years. I've been hearing about Bo

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Speaker 2: Nixon's He started as a freshman against Oregon in a

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Speaker 2: primetime Saturday game that was on ABC. I think kerk

466
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Speaker 2: herbs Street and Chris Fauer called the game. Jadan Damers

467
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Speaker 2: has won the Heisman. He's a multi multi year starter

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Speaker 2: at LSU. So it's like the college football's exploding. Hate

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Speaker 2: him or love him. Like Colorado's got two elite NFL

470
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Speaker 2: prospects that we have talked about, Shador Sanders and Travis

471
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Speaker 2: Hunter now four years. So when next year happens and

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Speaker 2: both those two guys are on different teams, you will

473
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Speaker 2: have a built in history with both of the guys.

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Speaker 2: I saw so many opinions like Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison, Marvin,

475
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Speaker 2: how do you only get one catch? Because we've been

476
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Speaker 2: freaking talking about Marvin Harrison for years, separate even from

477
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Speaker 2: his dad, just him as a player, And that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Like I feel very, very lucky to be involved in

479
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Speaker 2: this of the explosion of the interest, even if the

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Speaker 2: game suck. I mean, that's that's the crazy part. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Sunday Morning Slate's not great, I'm gonna want I'm gonna

482
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Speaker 2: have multiple TVs with four boxes on keeping eyes on

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Speaker 2: all of them. And I'd be doing that whether I

484
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Speaker 2: did this for a living or not. So the NFL

485
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: man is just rolling, very very excited. I've been following

486
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Speaker 2: this man for a long time. He's he's coming today

487
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: brought to you by Game Change, which we'll get into

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Speaker 2: in a little bit. But uh, you know, I first,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big car racing guy, but it's hard

490
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Speaker 2: to not know, especially as a big Dale earn our

491
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Speaker 2: junior guy. I know your buddies with him. He's all

492
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Speaker 2: over the SEC. But what's near and dear to my

493
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Speaker 2: heart is Augusta National and you know you come, you

494
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: know in early April you can find Marty Smith on

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Speaker 2: the grounds and he always you know him, and Ronaldi

496
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: always gets my kind of juices flowing. But now that

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Speaker 2: Ronaldi's not even around, I got Marty Smith. That's me

498
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Speaker 2: going Marty, what's up, bro? How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm wonderful, so grateful to spend this time with John

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Speaker 1: and you're right man there. Very blessed to go all

501
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Speaker 1: around the SEC in football and basketball, meet a lot

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Speaker 1: of amazing people and be immersed in a lot of

503
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Speaker 1: great energy. But there's just nowhere quite like Augusta. It's

504
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: a singular event. Every year. The energy is wonderful. You

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00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: feel the ghost says you're walking the grounds, and I

506
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: love walking in there every year because even though I've

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Speaker 1: covered the tournament for so many years, now for ESPN

508
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: and for the club. I work for the club as well.

509
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Speaker 1: While I'm there, I host their official master's podcast called

510
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: four Please Now Driving. And we walk in there and

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Speaker 1: I hate to sound trite, but I almost have my

512
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: breath taking every time I walk in there every year

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Speaker 1: because you just look around and you can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Like you, I'll never get used to the fact that

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Speaker 1: I get to be there, and I'm so grateful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, obviously you're a

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Speaker 2: big part of SEC football, and there's such a pageantry

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Speaker 2: to that. It's you know, Augusta National. There's such a

519
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: connection really obviously with the South, but even just you know,

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Speaker 2: as a football guy seeing all those guys, you know,

521
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning's a member there, you know, you see the

522
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: coaches that get to play, and it's just I love

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Speaker 2: I'm from northern California and I've had this theory that

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Speaker 2: you know, Nick obviously what he meant to the sport,

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Speaker 2: but specifically the South and the SEC, which you know

526
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Speaker 2: you've been around there at the think your whole life

527
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: from Virginia originally, right, but the power of that conference

528
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: football has always been king college football. But to me,

529
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: he took it on a national level and made it cool.

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Speaker 2: And I can't tell you how many people that might,

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00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: like family, friends whose kids go to the SEC. And

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Speaker 2: I watch more SEC now than forever. I mean, you

533
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: look at Tennessee's quarterback Nico. You can't tell me if

534
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Nico was coming out in two thousand and four. He's

535
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: not playing for Pete Carroll right question? And Bryce Young?

536
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: Where's he from? Los Angeles? Georgia suspends their running back?

537
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: Who do they roll out? Week one? Kids from LA

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if that happens fifteen twenty years ago.

539
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Speaker 2: Is that fair? As someone that's lived it.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly not debatable that Nick Saban rewrote the standard

541
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Speaker 1: that it takes to be nationally dominant and consistently relevant

542
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: in the national narrative. The way that Nick Saban did,

543
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Speaker 1: that whole process that he injected into Alabama, the standard

544
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Speaker 1: that he demanded every single day, that every one of

545
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: his players demand best of self and seek best of self,

546
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: because thereby by doing that, their brother can do the

547
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: same thing. And I love what he told me. I

548
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: wrote a book last year called Sideline CEO, and in

549
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: that book, he told me that on the goal on

550
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: the goals pyramid on the wall in the Alabama football

551
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: facility there in Tuscaloosa. It does not say win an

552
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: SEC championship. It does not say win a national championship.

553
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Speaker 1: It says be the best, because if you be the best,

554
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Speaker 1: then you can have the opportunity to win those other accolades.

555
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: And it's just such an inside out perspective that he

556
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: injected into that. And then on top of that, he

557
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: was willing to be malle He was against He was

558
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: not a big fan of rpo offenses, up tempo, slinging

559
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: it all over the place, and then all of a

560
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: sudden it started beating him, and he went, oh, I

561
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: guess I'd better go get Lane Kiffin and then Steve

562
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Sarkesian and we'll start doing that. And so I could

563
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: go on and on about the man. He's the greatest

564
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Speaker 1: to ever do it. He's impacted my life personally and

565
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: professionally in a very deep way. And by the way,

566
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Speaker 1: he's killing it on TV now.

567
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Oh, he's awesome, which shouldn't be shocking to anybody, you know.

568
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of Augusta Nashville, I think Tiger the thing I

569
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: always admired most about him is he was so rich,

570
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: so famous, and so good fast like what kept him

571
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: driving to win like in twenty nineteen, right, And I

572
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: think Nick and Belichick, and I think you see it

573
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: now with Andy Reid. You know you spent a lot

574
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Speaker 2: of time around Nick. What do you think it is?

575
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: Is it just that kid that grew up in West

576
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: Virginia that just has this He's just terrified in the

577
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: back of his head that it's all going to come

578
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: crumbling down, Like how does he get stay motivated up

579
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: until last year? Wish I'd argue that's one of his

580
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: better coaching jobs National Championship or not of his career.

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Speaker 1: Right, completely agree, and he'll tell you that. And by

582
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: the way, I might have misspoke right there. It's be

583
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Speaker 1: a champion is what it says on the Alabama goals pyramid.

584
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I might have said be the best, but be a

585
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: champion is what it is. I think that he subconsciously

586
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: is still that kid watching his father work at that

587
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: gas station that his father owned and really understand what

588
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: true hard work is while also having the selfless kindness

589
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: to just give somebody gas if they didn't have the change,

590
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: to fill up the tank and watch his dad bust

591
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: his ass to make sure that that business was viol

592
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: and remained sustainable, and then coach. You know, he's a

593
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: fascinating study. But I think about Tiger as you were

594
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: talking about him there for a second. I'll never forget

595
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. In March of twenty eighteen, after Tiger had

596
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: had his back fused, I set across from him at

597
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: Medalist Golf Club down in Hope Sound, Florida, and I

598
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: asked him, why were you so dominant for so long?

599
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: And he said, I just want to beat you. And

600
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: I said, man, it can't be that simple, Like, of

601
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: course you want to win, he said, Marty. I didn't

602
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: say I wanted to win. I said I wanted to

603
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: beat you. And to look in his eyes when he

604
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: said that made the hair stand up on the back

605
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: of my neck because it said all that needs saying

606
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: about the mental approach that he had. He wasn't there

607
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: to win golf tournaments. He was there to beat people's ass.

608
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: He was there to impose his will on the competition.

609
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing. MJ has, same thing, Kobe had,

610
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: same thing, Saban has, same thing, Kirby has. There are

611
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: certain people who are wired different than we are there's

612
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: a competitive nature and a competitive stamina. Then most people

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00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: can't understand. And I say this sometimes when I'm doing

614
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: motivational speaking. If you are wired like that to demand

615
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: best of self every single day and that is your

616
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Speaker 1: personal standard, there will be people who don't understand you.

617
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: They can't understand that way of living your life. They

618
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: will mock you. They will ridicule you based on their

619
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: own insecurity. But I always say, I tell my son

620
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: this all the time, who's a freshman in college. If

621
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: they're mocking you, that's a them problem, not a you problem.

622
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: It means they don't live on your frequency. And if

623
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: they don't live on your frequency, then their static tune

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: them out.

625
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've been thinking a lot about these guys. Obviously,

626
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: you know, growing up on the West coast, Big Pac

627
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: twelve guy in fald Sark and Lane's career, and you

628
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: had the I think you posted on Instagram or Twitter

629
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: sitting down with Lane and his father passed. But I'm

630
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: sure you've got a chance to read that article that

631
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: came out a couple of weeks ago about Lane, and

632
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: obviously the change in his life doesn't hasn't had a

633
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: drink in three and a half years and the maturation.

634
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: But it all kind of started with Nick throwing him

635
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: a lifeline and changing his life. But even he talked

636
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: about I was still really immature. Looking back, I would

637
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: have hated me even in that version of me. Now

638
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: you talk about a guy that just feels kind of

639
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: in the zone right now. Right, Obviously his dad's one

640
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: of the greatest assistants in the history of the NFL.

641
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: But what he learned from his Nick and the way

642
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: he's attacked this transfer portal in that quarterback, I mean

643
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: that team, I think, first team in Old Miss history,

644
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: right to win back to back double digit win teams,

645
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: and this team's better in the last two years, right?

646
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Is that for her to say?

647
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Definitely?

648
00:35:59,680 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: Deep?

649
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: I really liked their quarterback, Jackson Dart and I did

650
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: a profile feature on Jackson last year and I went

651
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: down to Oxford and asked him, you know there's another

652
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: California here. Well, I think he's from Utah, Utah, but

653
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: he went to Southern Cala ends up transferring over to

654
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Old Miss, And I asked him, you know why Old

655
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: Miss and he said, well, I saw the relationship that

656
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin had with Matt Corral, and that relationship was

657
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: also born from that decision to get sober. And Lane

658
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: decided that he was gonna not drink during the season,

659
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: he was gonna eat well. Well. Matt Corral sees this

660
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: and says, hey, I want to join you in this,

661
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: and so they did that together and the mental clarity

662
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: that they achieved with one another based on that decision

663
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: of sobriety, eating better, making sure that they're doing what

664
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: is another savingism. Brother comes down every single day to

665
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: two decisions. There's something over there that I really want

666
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: to do, but I know I'm not supposed to do.

667
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: Do you do it? And then over here there's something

668
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I know I have to do, but I don't want

669
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: to do. Do you do it? And with that mental

670
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: clarity that came with the sobriety and the brotherhood of Lane,

671
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Kiffin and mac corral, they did what they were supposed

672
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: to do when they were supposed to do it. And

673
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: the proof was on the football field. And Jack Stark

674
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: saw that and he came to Old Miss for that reason.

675
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: And now now you look at Lane, I'm so proud

676
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: of him. Man, we're pretty close.

677
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: How good does he look? I mean physically he looks

678
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: like he's lost twenty five thirty pounds.

679
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: He looks well, he's got bright eyes. Yeah, got bright eyes, man,

680
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful soul. And him sharing with Ryan McGee,

681
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: my colleague, and Island Marty McGee. Him sharing so vulnerable,

682
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: with such great vulnerability about his father Monty, just days

683
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: after Monty passed away in a moment when he really

684
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: didn't want to because he didn't think he had the

685
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: emotional ability to make his way through those thoughts. Was

686
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: remarkable to witness real time. It impacted millions of people

687
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: once we put it out there into the world, but

688
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: real time for Ryan and me sitting there watching him

689
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: process this, him process this in the moment, and then

690
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: him verbally saying to us, I'm not ready for this.

691
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, but then continuing on

692
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: and then in the middle of a thought saying to

693
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: us both, thank you. This was very therapeutic. That was

694
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: a remarkable thing to see, man.

695
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it really And you know, getting being

696
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: comfortable in your own skin and feeling good about yourself.

697
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: I mean some of these things sound pretty basic, but

698
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: the power they have, and obviously you know alcohol and

699
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: you know I think him and Sark clearly Sark more,

700
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: I guess, i'd say more publicly than Lane.

701
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: But Dark saved not only did coach save and save

702
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: his career, saved his say he's like he saved my life.

703
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Because he made it in at physicals right, all the coaches.

704
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: I you look at those two guys and they are

705
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: such player coaches and one of the reasons why these

706
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: young people are choosing to play for them, whether that's portal,

707
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: whether that's in old school standard high school recruiting. Yeah,

708
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: nil plays into it in today's iteration of transactional college football.

709
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: But they look at those guys and they go they

710
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: are that vulnerable and they're willing to strip the veneer

711
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: that much and be that transparent. I want to be

712
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: a part of that.

713
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Well, Marty, think about that. How many guys can say

714
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: I worked for the two greatest teams in the last

715
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: twenty five years, and the two coaches couldn't have been

716
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: more polar opposite. So I've seen Pete kick everyone's ass

717
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: up and down the field, and then I went to

718
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Nick and I saw the same thing. Yet as coaches,

719
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: obviously they're successful coach, but the way they operate are

720
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: on both ends of the spectrum, so they get to

721
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: yank from them both be their own guy. I mean,

722
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: how many people have that wealth of knowledge in their

723
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: back pocket.

724
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, just going to again, going back to that

725
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: book I was talking about a moment ago. I'll interviewed

726
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Lane in that book as well, and he goes on

727
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: and on about how coach Saban specifically, a lot of

728
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: guys set a standard. They expect those within their program

729
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: to live by that standard and uphold that standard, but

730
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: sometimes they might not be the example of that standard

731
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: that they're verbalizing, if that makes sense. He said, Nick

732
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: Saban has the right to say that to us every

733
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: single day because he lives it every single day. Because

734
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: his level of self discipline, his level of being willing

735
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: to outwork yesterday, his level of demanding to going back

736
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: to be a champion, doing the things that you have

737
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: to do every day to be a champion, You're probably

738
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna have the opportunity to win a championship. And it's

739
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: easy to say it, it ain't easy to do. And

740
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: Lane was like, he did it every day.

741
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: You know, I never thought i'd say this. You probably

742
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: consider me a Texas hater. They look pretty darn good.

743
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: Well, they're real good man.

744
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: If you would have told me two years ago, by

745
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: the time they got to the SEC they'd be ready

746
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: to rock and roll, I would have been like, I

747
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: don't know that they are as good as Georgia or

748
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: House State. In my mind, that quarterback talk about a

749
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: guy who's gotten better. I mean, he looked fantastic the

750
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: other day, didn't he.

751
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: He his command of what so Sark is probably the

752
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: most brilliant mind in the game at the collegiate level

753
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: for sure, of creating spaces and taking advantage of holes

754
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: and defenses through various motions and scheme to get his

755
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: skill guys the football in space. We've seen it everywhere

756
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: he's been. And when you got a guy like quinn

757
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: Ewers who is able to feel pressure, move around the pocket,

758
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: step up, never take his eyes off of being downfield

759
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: and going through those progressions, and he's willing to be

760
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: not only willing, but capable of being that lethal off script,

761
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And oh, by the way, the fact

762
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: that they had Malik Murphy and arch Manning behind him.

763
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: Of course, now Murphy's gone on to Duke arch Manning's

764
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: willingness to continue to sit in today's college football. What

765
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: an incredible blessing for Steve.

766
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: Big time, big time If you would have told me

767
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: last here at this time and I don't know if

768
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: he can hold him off. Now it's like, of course

769
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: he's hold him off. He looked, he looked like a

770
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Heisman player the other night. Two more guys I want

771
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: to ask you about. I was a graduate assistant at

772
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: Fresno State, so I follow that program closely. So Dubor's career.

773
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: Have you been to his new office.

774
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm actually going, as you and I sit here right now, tomorrow.

775
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, I'm going to Tuscaloosa. I'm gonna sit down

776
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: with Kaylin and sit down with Jalen Milroe ahead of

777
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: their game against Wisconsin and Camp Randall this weekend. But

778
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: I've not been in there yet. I was in Savings

779
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: a ton.

780
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

781
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: It looks very different, and it really speaks though to

782
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: the difference in culture. You know, John, you've heard it,

783
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: and you've heard it and everybody's heard it. You don't

784
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: want to be the guy following the guy. But they

785
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Greg Byrne could not have hired a better person and

786
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: demeanor to follow Nick Sabany Because I have myriad countless

787
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: friends in that program that walk in those doors every day,

788
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: and the energy's very different. It's more relaxed. But there's

789
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: optimum respect for coach de Boor because of the way

790
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: that he treats people, because of his obvious acumen, because

791
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: he's won everywhere he's been, and so perfect guy to follow.

792
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Coach Saban, he's clearly like an old school hard ass,

793
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: but he's got this California vibe to him. It's kind

794
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: of a unique. But he's very cerebral, but he's not

795
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: really a yeller and screamer like Nick. But he's clearly

796
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: intense because you don't win at football as much as

797
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: he's been winning. So it's and it's hard. Like even

798
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: USF it was a close game, but Saban, they didn't

799
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: play him well last year, so that's never schedule those

800
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: guys again, right.

801
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: No doubt. I mean it was a squeaker last year

802
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: and this year at least Alabama pulled away. But I

803
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: think one thing that we'll see specific to this season

804
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: is great maturation and evolution and development as a quarterback

805
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 1: for Jalen Milrow. I personally don't believe Tommy Reese gets

806
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: enough credit for the difference in Jalen Milrow at Week

807
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: two in twenty twenty three and the guy we saw

808
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: against Michigan in the Rose Bowl. That was fascinating to

809
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: see his growth. So kudos to coach Reese and those guys.

810
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: But Kaylin, what he did with Penix and those guys,

811
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: it's really good for Jalen and he should be very

812
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: good in the offense. The scheme that Debor wants to use.

813
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 2: It's weird. I want to ask you about one more guy.

814
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: You know obviously Nick, we just got to know him

815
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: so well through ten million features. He's winning so many

816
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: national titles. I even think the same with Urban, he

817
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: was just so front and center. Well, Kirby is a

818
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: massive name. Even Dabo would put in that category. Like

819
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I know him so well. I've never

820
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: met Kirby. I know a lot of people that know

821
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: him and love him, you know, whenever his personality comes out,

822
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: if he's at like a PGA Tour event and he's

823
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: in a Wednesday program, a pro amure like, this guy's

824
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: the man. But it does feel like relative to some

825
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: of those names I just listed, he still flies under

826
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of the radar in terms of just

827
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: celebrity status. I understand locally, but I'm talking on a

828
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: national level. You've been around him probably for decades. What

829
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: makes him so freaking awesome because he's got that thing.

830
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he feels a little in his own version

831
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: save in two point zero. Obviously he was a right

832
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: hand man for a long time.

833
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Completely agree with that. He took the process. He took

834
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: the messaging. One thing Kirby is brilliant at which I

835
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: hate to keep going back to the book, but he

836
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: talked to me about this in that book, Sideline CEO.

837
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant communicator and he takes he likened it

838
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: to Okay. He has these experts in messaging that he

839
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: leans on, whether that's sports psychologists, whether that is authors,

840
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: leadership experts that he speaks with, and then he distills

841
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: these philosophical approaches down into short chunks of very digestible

842
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: messaging and drills it into his player's heads. He's the

843
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: best there is in the country at that kind of

844
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: communication at the player level. He also is extremely demanding,

845
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: very intense. He's saving two point He's baby saving and

846
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: I can tell you that this year, I believe it's

847
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: a reckoning. I think that that is their approach in Athens,

848
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: Georgia because the fact that they lost the SEC championship game.

849
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: I was just there right before they played Clemson in

850
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: Week one to do a feature on Carson Beck, their quarterback.

851
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: I also sat down Jalen Walker, who's going to be

852
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: an All American Number eleven, the linebacker. I sat down

853
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, and they all told me, Yeah, we don't

854
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: really think about last year. We don't care what happened

855
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: in the SEC championship game. That's not fuel for us

856
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: this year. I don't believe him. I know Kirby too well.

857
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: I know he uses every single thing he can to

858
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: find the edge. And to me, they're the best team

859
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: in the country as you and I sit here in

860
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: chat right now, and I think that it's going to

861
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: be hell to pay for people to play them now

862
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: in It's That's what I was about to say. In

863
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: this iteration of college football where we have a twelve

864
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: team playoff, I honestly think it might be harder to

865
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: win the SEC than it is to make the playoff,

866
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: because I think Georgia could lose twice and still be

867
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: a playoff team.

868
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: Do you think if you had to, I mean, is

869
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: Ole Miss their biggest contender is Tennessee. I mean that

870
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: that Nico.

871
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Well, Georgia goes look special and oh yeah, I forget

872
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: tex Georgia goes to Texas.

873
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Man, how would you how would you rank the SEC

874
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: outside of Georgia? The next three teams that could legitimately

875
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: be Georgia Texas one.

876
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: One Texas for sure on any given day. Now, like

877
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, Lane has a lot of talent, A lot

878
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: of us have very high expectations, like he's won a

879
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: lot of games over the past couple of years. But

880
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: now it's time to take that next step? Can you

881
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: go beat to Georgia? Can you go beat in Alabama?

882
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: We shall see. Missouri's very good. Tennessee is very good.

883
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: I saw them Saturday night. But there's a lot of

884
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: really good teams. I would say it's Georgia and Texas.

885
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: I would then put Ole miss and then I would

886
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: have probably Missouri, Bama, Tennessee all there kind of together.

887
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: One brand you left out and I don't blame you

888
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: because they've lost a bad game Week one, But are

889
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: we sure the LSU actually isn't pretty good? And you

890
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: think out there just an eleven win team.

891
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: I think they're really good. I really like their quarterback

892
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: a lot, he can really rip it. I'm a huge

893
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly believer. I think he's a great football coach

894
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: who has you know, his personal evolution is is well documented. Now.

895
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: I so enjoyed. I was there before Week one as well,

896
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: had a great conversation with him.

897
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: And how much talent is on that team. Those two tackles, defense, Harold.

898
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: Perkins a freak Nuss Myers, a very good quarterback. Mason Taylor, uh,

899
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: he will be a Mackie finalist. They got Will Campbell,

900
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: who's the best offensive lineman in the country. You could

901
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: go on and on. They're loaded, and it just so

902
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: happened that that Week one game didn't go their way.

903
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think they're very good. Who this

904
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: he sees one of these leagues, now, man, where you're

905
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be so it would be exhausting

906
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: because the physicality is you.

907
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: See the highlights of the South Carolina pass rusher of

908
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: the five star freshman.

909
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Kid he looks like a triple team and Lawrence Taylor

910
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: or something like dude do through a ten horn. And

911
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean they're just and look like that LSU South

912
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: Carolina game this weekend Game Day will be there. They're

913
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of juice, man, and I love it.

914
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what a blessing to get to be immersed

915
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: in that all the time. It's just awesome.

916
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me, tell me about game Change company

917
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: you're working with, and I know it means a lot

918
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: to you, and obviously that the world of college athletics

919
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: is dramatically changing at the I mean by the day.

920
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Super grateful for the platform, brother, thank you for letting

921
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: me take a moment. I'm grateful to partner with game Change.

922
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: When they first approached me with it, I wanted to

923
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: study them first. Okay, what is this? And as I

924
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Speaker 1: looked into it, met with them extensively, I went, Okay,

925
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Speaker 1: not only is this a brilliant business idea, this is

926
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: gonna work. This is gonna help student athletes and athletic departments.

927
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Here's what it is, all right. You go to go

928
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: game change dot com. Go game change dot com, You

929
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: input the credit or debit card of your choice, you

930
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: choose the university of your choice, and then every purchase

931
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: that you make with that credit or debit card automatically

932
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: rounds up to the next dollar, and the difference automatically

933
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: goes to the athletic department you choose, it comes to

934
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: the athletic department, and then they can disperse that funding

935
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: how they so choose. It's considered a charitable donation, so

936
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: it's a write off at the end of the year

937
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Speaker 1: for doing it. You also, then by enrolling in game Change,

938
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: enter yourself with every single purchase the opportunity to win

939
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: cash prizes and all kinds of awesome opportunities. And so

940
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: it's just such a cool initiative. Like I think about

941
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: in this era of college sports, whether you're Texas, Texas

942
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: A and m Ohio State Michigan, they are loaded with resources,

943
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: whether that's television revenue, nil influx, their collectives, whatever that is,

944
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: but they want more. This is a way for those

945
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: of us who don't have five million dollars to put

946
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: on our name on a building to help out. But

947
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: I think more like my alma mater is Radford Universe.

948
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: You talk about going to Fresno, Okay, take Fresno. Y'all

949
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: ain'tloaded Yeah, y'all ain't loaded down with a bunch of

950
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: TV revenue Bubbo and I went to Radford. Man, we're

951
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: loaded big South Division one and we're sitting here trying

952
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: to figure out as a collective unit. I'm working with

953
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: the athletic department, what can we do, not just to

954
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: help pay our guys and get recruits into Radford, but dang,

955
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: stay alive, survive. Yeah, And so I believe that's why

956
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I partner with game Change. I think it's a real

957
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: opportunity for all of us to just go game change

958
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: dot com, put in your credit card. It automatically rounds

959
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Speaker 1: up and sends it straight to the school, and you

960
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Speaker 1: have a lot of opportunity to help your institution and

961
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Speaker 1: get that tax right off and possibly win surprises too.

962
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: That's awesome, Marty. Did Bryson de Chambau figure something out

963
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: last year at Agusta before you get out of here?

964
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: I so I have always appre my every dealing I've

965
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: ever had with him. Yeah, thoroughly enjoy him. I like

966
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: him a lot as a person. I'm gonna tell you something, man,

967
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: I think that when he went to live I think

968
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: something happened in his psyche that he I mean, he's

969
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: such a unique mind. You know, He's always been about

970
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: the math, and the GYA all that. I mean, with

971
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: all of his club links being the same and all

972
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: those things. He's just a different type of mind. But

973
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: he almost won the PGA. Xander. You know, toilet bowled

974
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: that final putt there at eighteen and Jeff Darlington and

975
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I were standing there watching it, and then you know,

976
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: he Bryson almost won that thing. And then he comes

977
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: back at Pinehurst has one of the greatest bunker shots

978
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: of any of us have ever seen in our lives,

979
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: while Rory fell apart and now I mean, he's he's

980
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: he's a problem for those guys. And I think it's

981
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: great for golf. Like I think it's so great for golf.

982
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm I'm a big Brooks Keopka guy too.

983
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: Brooks and I are close these Brooks just has this

984
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: he has this different gear. Yeah, he's won and live

985
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: and whatnot, but he turns into an assassin when he

986
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: gets to a major championship and it's thrilling theater. And

987
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, then you got what Scotty's doing, you got

988
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: what Xander's doing. I think it's a great time for golf,

989
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: even though some people will tell you different. I am.

990
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: I think the sport is just awesome right now. Can't

991
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: wait until TVL starts.

992
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: The major anywhere. Majors have never felt more awesome right

993
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: now and greatly. I think over the next year, these

994
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: guys are all going to get back together and we'll

995
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: look back hopefully in five years and go. And that

996
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: was actually a springboard to you know, the buzz of

997
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: maybe instead of just four times a year, be fifteen

998
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: times a year they're all playing together.

999
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: It's indisputable that the Live movement completely rewrote the financial

1000
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: structure of the PGA Tour. You look at what Scotty

1001
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: made this year, and there's all these memes and graphics

1002
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: and whatnot about what Ted Scott his caddy made this year.

1003
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Presuming that's a ten percent commission as his caddy, even.

1004
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: If you low balled him, it's still if it's not

1005
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: six and a half, it's five. I mean, he's making

1006
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: He's a top thirty guy on the PGA Tour as

1007
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: a player, well, and he's a caddy, you know Scotty.

1008
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: Scotty loves Scott.

1009
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: He's doing up close is just I mean, being there

1010
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: the day you know, of course, the day he got

1011
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: arrested and all those things. That Valhalla is wild and

1012
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: just to watch his ability to compartmentalize that and all

1013
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: the emotion and fear and hurt and worry and go

1014
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: shoot sixty six just just an alien amazing.

1015
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't mean to keep you so long, but you've

1016
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: been to ten million of the biggest events ever. Is

1017
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: that one of the craziest things you've ever seen in

1018
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: your life?

1019
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: Darlington and I both from a sports standpoint, without a doubt,

1020
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: And so Jeff just happened to be there, you know.

1021
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: And just if they're handing out him, he's they should

1022
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: just go ahead and hand him one because.

1023
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: He got it. He was, he was at the Miami

1024
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: Dolphins game yesterday. He's got Rose House on the sideline.

1025
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: We've been We've been texting about it.

1026
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

1027
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm he's a phenomenal person. He's a great friend of

1028
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: mine and a great reporter. And what he did at Valhalla,

1029
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: just having the presence of mind to capture it and

1030
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: then to go on television with all of that emotion,

1031
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: his heart's probably beaten out of his check and have

1032
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: the measured approach to report the way he did was

1033
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: a clinic and then you know, I show up and

1034
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: they kind of put me on Scotty duty, and I'm

1035
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: charged with trying to get comment and of course the

1036
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I love you Marty thing happens, and I'm sort of

1037
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: following him around and all day long. He was just

1038
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: a wild It was a wild day.

1039
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: What did shoot five under?

1040
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: He was? He shot sixty six that day, shot six hundred.

1041
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: What a day, Absolute rock star.

1042
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for staying this long, Marty.

1043
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: Have a great day, enjoy Bama and have a good

1044
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: weekend and we'll keep crushing.

1045
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: Bro pleasures all mine. Brother, I appreciate you giving me

1046
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: the platform. Have a great day.

1047
00:58:49,080 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: Thanks Marty, have a great one. Appreciate you. Let's bang

1048
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: out a couple of male bag questions, Little Middlecoff mail bag,

1049
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: because I have a lot, so I thought i'd answer

1050
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: a few. Easiest way to get involved my Instagram at

1051
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire in those dms start with Christian

1052
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 2: starts off with some kind words. I appreciate you. Question

1053
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: for the back and it's a long one and not

1054
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: too bad. After watching film on the Bears offense last week,

1055
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: this guy's an all twenty two junkie. Everyone from the

1056
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: O line to the wide receivers of the QB and

1057
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: the backs were messing up left and right. Just a

1058
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: sloppy performance all around. It was one of those games

1059
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: where everyone is taking their turn screwing up and there's

1060
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 2: just poor execution. A lot of it was piss poor

1061
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: blocking as well. I know Kyle Shanahan is a master

1062
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: at scheming plays along with having great talented skill position players.

1063
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: But more than anything, it seems like it's teams execute

1064
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: at a high level. There's town and all around the NFL, take,

1065
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: for example, to Bear skill position players, but rarely does

1066
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: an offense look and sync like Kyle's. My question simply

1067
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: how does he do it?

1068
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: Well?

1069
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: More specifically, how does he get players to execute his

1070
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: vision at such a high level. He's mastered an offense, right,

1071
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: so once you master your craft, he's been doing it.

1072
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: Think about it. His whole life grew up around his

1073
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: dad that ran the offense. He was obviously a football

1074
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: player in high school and college, so I would imagine

1075
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: his conversations with his dad weren't all just you know

1076
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: what's for dinner? I mean probably nerding out on that.

1077
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: And he's been an offensive coordinator in the NFL for

1078
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: a decade and a half. So he's been doing it

1079
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: for a long long time. And I think when you've

1080
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: mastered what you want people to do, you know, and

1081
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: good coaches then know how to teach. And part of

1082
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: that is teaching your coaches. Part of that is being

1083
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: a good communicator. Every player learns different, you know, the

1084
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: forty nine ers are a good example. Like, let's use

1085
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: the Bears. Your quarterback just made his first start, Keenan

1086
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: Allen has never played with Caleb Williams in a regular

1087
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 2: season game. Roll Madonza is a rookie. Dj Moore also

1088
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: brand new quarterback. So like you guys, just the cohesion

1089
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: slash experience, and you know, Seattle loves the shit on

1090
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: Shane Waldron. Last time I checked, every offensive coordinator Seattle

1091
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: ever had under Russell Wilson got fired. That's not an opinion,

1092
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: that's a fact, which is unheard of with any good

1093
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl level quarterback in his prime. Those guys get jobs,

1094
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: they always blame the offensive coordinator. It was never Russell's fault.

1095
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: Let him cook, and then then for try to let

1096
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: him cook and the kitchen burned down. But like George Kittle,

1097
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,479
Speaker 2: Brandon Aiyuk Deebo Samuel Trent Williams played for Kyle before

1098
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: we got to San Francisco. Like, these guys have been

1099
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: playing with each other a long time, and I think

1100
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: when you look at Kelsey and Mahomes, like, think of

1101
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: the cohesion those two had because of how much time

1102
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: they've spent together. And some teams are able to overcome

1103
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: it fast, like when Peyton Mannon got to Denver, Tom

1104
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: Brady got to Tampa Bay. But I'd say those situations

1105
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: are outliars. Usually the best offenses play together for a

1106
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: little while at least a core group of the guys

1107
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: and their offensive coordinator just knows what he's doing. Now,

1108
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: Like look at Mike Zimmer's defense the other day. Now

1109
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: we can say to Shawn Socks or whatever, but like

1110
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: he's kind of knows what he's doing. He knows how

1111
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: to coach guys, and he knows how to communicate what

1112
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: he wants. So and their guy have a lot of experience,

1113
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: Like he's playing with guys. You know Eric Hendricks out

1114
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: there right now, We'll think how much time Kendricks and

1115
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: Zimmer spent together in Minnesota. I know he's new to

1116
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 2: Michael Parkson's but Michael Parkson been playing for a long

1117
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: time now, so even if it's new terminology, like he

1118
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: kind of knows what he's doing, and I think it

1119
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: could just be rocky for the Bears early on, I

1120
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: don't think it's like this isn't rocket science. Now there's

1121
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: also a balance of we have some non negotiables, Like

1122
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: I know with Kyle just because I follow them so closely,

1123
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: you have to block as a wide receiver, and if

1124
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: you do not, you're just not gonna play. Brandon Ayuk

1125
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: like one thing. I think early on they butted heads

1126
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: over and then he became one of the better guys

1127
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: in the league. He has to block his ass off.

1128
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings gets in fight. It's like every week, why

1129
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: because Kyle demands that. Even DeVante Adams was it on

1130
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: receiver or was it on a podcast? Maybe it was

1131
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: it was on some interview. I saw they were asking him,

1132
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: like yeah, not oh. It was like him and Saint Brown,

1133
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: we're doing this like DeVante made amen Ross Saint Brown,

1134
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: He's like, list a couple of things I don't do well.

1135
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: It was kind of hard and even you could tell

1136
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: it's like uh, and he hit him like you know,

1137
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: you don't have elite speed, and you know blocking is

1138
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: if he and even Dvante's like, yeah, I'm not a

1139
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: big blocker, and I don't blame him, you know, like

1140
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: Dion says, I don't get paid to tackle, pay to cover.

1141
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: So but if you're gonna play for Kyle, you got

1142
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: a block. And I just think certain coaches have non

1143
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: negotiables on certain things and then it just kind of

1144
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: and then he obviously just knows his offense inside it out,

1145
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: like Andy Reid has mastered his offense for thirty plus years.

1146
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: You know you can't. I think sometimes when you bounce

1147
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 2: around as a coordinator, it's hard to get cohesion. I mean,

1148
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: let's fa Usually the best coordinators find themselves in a spot,

1149
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: master it in that spot, and then become a head coach.

1150
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: That's a pretty consistent kind of trajectory. Pats fans from Chad,

1151
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: I know where you stand on the Patriots outlook, but

1152
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: their win this week got me thinking if the Pats

1153
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: are somehow able to have some immediate success under mail

1154
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: five hundred ish or better, would it hurt Belichick's stock

1155
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: for head coaching positions or does his resume speak for itself?

1156
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: If I were an owner, and the Pats exceeding expectations

1157
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: this season would really amplify BB's share of the blame

1158
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: for everything post Brady. Love Bill and think he's an

1159
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: all timer, but he made some pretty head scratching decisions

1160
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: as the GM and the head coach at the end

1161
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: of his tenure in New England. Not deniable, but it

1162
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: was really bad. The Patricia thing. He loves Patricia. I mean,

1163
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 2: somehow I end up on that podcast and Patricia sitting

1164
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: next right next to him, and even when Patricia talks

1165
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: about Bill, everything's like Bill, Bill, Bill. When Bill did this,

1166
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: It's like Jesus, all the guys that hit your wagon, Dude, Like, listen,

1167
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 2: I understand Josh is a bad head coach, but he's

1168
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: feels like he's a really good offensive coordinator. But he

1169
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: just loves Patricia. I just think he loves the certain guys.

1170
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to poopoo Gerrod Mayo, and he's like

1171
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: every player that ever played with him loves him. He

1172
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: obviously is a really high level guy. I'd say the

1173
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: same thing about Antonio Pierce when you talk about team

1174
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: captains leaders. If the Raiders or the Patriots win eight

1175
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: to nine or nine and eight. I would those guys

1176
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: should get Coaches of the Year votes. I wouldn't get

1177
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: too ahead of ourselves on one game against the Bengals,

1178
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: who look like shit. Everyone's like middle coffee.

1179
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: We're so easy on Joe Burrow.

1180
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah it was shitty. What do you want me to say?

1181
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: Fucking cut him? Like, you're you're harder. I saw a

1182
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: lot you're harder on Lamar? Well, yeah, I saw Joe

1183
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: Burrow beat Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game, go to

1184
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and have the lead, like that's that's

1185
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: the trump card in this whole thing, and then the

1186
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 2: following year go toe to toe with Mahomes again. Obviously

1187
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: they lost, but like when the other guy does that,

1188
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: I'll give him his credit. Now, this version of Joe Burrow,

1189
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: if he's banged up, he's not the same guy. So

1190
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: then the Bengals obviously have problems. So if jet Joe

1191
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: Burrow is gonna be like the guy we saw the

1192
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: other day, then yeah, Lamar's a better player and the

1193
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: Bengals have no shot in the playoffs. But again, like

1194
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: when we talk about the highest level of these guys,

1195
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: like what am I seen in January games? When all

1196
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: the money's on the line, when all the chips are

1197
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: in the middle of the table. It was a good win.

1198
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: I'll take nothing away from drowd Mao and the Patriots.

1199
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: Whether you win two to nothing or sixteen to ten

1200
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: like that, that's an impressive win. We'll see if they

1201
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: can keep it up. I would say no, but I listen.

1202
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't not know, Sir Damas here question for the back.

1203
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: Do you think we will ever see an era of

1204
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes without Andy Reid? Do you see Patrick retiring

1205
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: when Andy does?

1206
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: No?

1207
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean Patrick's what twenty eight years old? I mean

1208
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 2: he has fifty sixty seventy million dollars a year reasons

1209
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 2: to not quit playing. You don't give up unless you're

1210
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: a son Reddick. Millions of dollars to not play. And

1211
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: Andy just age is not necessarily on his side. So

1212
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: if you go, let me look up how old Patrick

1213
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes is. I think he's twenty eight. He's twenty eight

1214
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: years old and he turns twenty nine September seventeenth, So

1215
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: rogers playing right now at forty So does he have

1216
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,440
Speaker 2: Let's just be conservative, he's got ten more years. Again conservative,

1217
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: the way these guys are playing now he'd be thirty nine. Well,

1218
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: I think Andy is what sixty six? He's sixty six.

1219
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: He turned sixty seven in March. So is Andy Reid

1220
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: coaching at seventy seven? You never say never, but I

1221
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: think if you're a Chiefs fan, you feel pretty good

1222
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: as long as Andy's health's good, that at minimum you

1223
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: got five more years. Like Andy ain't playing golf, like

1224
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: Andy ain't like aspiring to call games on TV, and

1225
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: you don't leave this rocket ship which you and Patrick

1226
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: are driving. So I don't even think you need to

1227
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: worry about like will it happen? More than likely? If

1228
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: you're just betting on ages, you would say yes, Like

1229
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 2: Bill and Tom linked up. I think when Bill was

1230
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: fifty or maybe even forty eight. If Andy had linked

1231
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: up like that, I'd say one hundred percent. But these

1232
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: guys linked up when Andy was sixty. So if Mahome's

1233
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: gonna play eighteen years, you just the numbers. But I

1234
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: would say for the foreseeable future, Andy Reider coach, which

1235
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: means you're gonna be good. Conspiratorial mailbag question, big fan,

1236
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: when it comes to to Shawn's latest lawsuit, do you

1237
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: think there is any possible way. This could be an

1238
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: inside job from the Browns or someone affiliated with the

1239
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: Browns in an attempt to have an opportunity to avoid

1240
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: the rest of his guarantees. I know it's unlikely, but

1241
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: as soon as I heard about the lawsuit, I read

1242
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of the write up today on Florio,

1243
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,919
Speaker 2: who had quotes from Harden and Busby, the attorneys representing

1244
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: DeShawn and this and the UH is the defendant. The

1245
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: plaintiff didn't go to law school. This I guess got

1246
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: brought to their attention ten months ago, So I don't

1247
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: think this has anything to do with the Browns. I

1248
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: started reading it, and then I was like, I am

1249
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: so tired of Deshaun Watson massage, handy content, content like

1250
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even I don't even want

1251
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: to read it, I don't even care, Like that's I

1252
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 2: just I stopped reading it. About three or four sentences

1253
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: through the attorney statement, I'm like, this is I'm not

1254
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: wasting my time doing this. But having read that and

1255
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: just read the first part of the statement talked about

1256
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: the timeline. I don't think the Browns have anything to

1257
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: do with this, because he talked about all the other

1258
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: women that came forward. He was part of that too.

1259
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: I remember all this stuff like this links back to

1260
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. In twenty like this, this goes back to

1261
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: the Texans time, which I think is pretty clear that

1262
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: the trade request was trying to run away from his problems,

1263
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: which is just a disaster for the Browns. I mean,

1264
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: it really is. I saw when I was playing golf,

1265
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: I why when I'd done, I was eating lunch and

1266
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: sitting in the car, had to order a couple of

1267
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: things and was scrolling through Twitter and saw some comments

1268
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 2: from the press conference. It was like, this is cringe.

1269
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: This is tough feel for your Browns fans. My question is,

1270
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: what do you think the biggest problem with the Ravens

1271
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: is lack of being able to draft receivers or Lebarr's

1272
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: inability to play from the pocket in the playoffs. I

1273
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: think last year during the season, he had played so well,

1274
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: and in that specific game, he just got tighter as

1275
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: the game went on, and it looked like he let

1276
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: the moment the Patrick Mahomes, how well they had done

1277
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: in the first half, really affect them, and he looked

1278
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: much worse than he had just done that game that

1279
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: he played against the forty nine ers on Christmas. It

1280
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 2: was like, this guy is in a really good spot.

1281
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: The way this guy is playing right now is going

1282
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: to translate. I mean, I had money and then to

1283
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, and then it's like you're playing

1284
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods in his prime and all of a sudden,

1285
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: you're two shots down after four holes, You're like, holy shit,

1286
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: what am I gonna do? And you get tight And

1287
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: he got tight like the other night, I don't think

1288
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: he got tight. He just missedcuble throws and he ran

1289
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: around like he's just kind of playing it. He's just

1290
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: doing what he has to do to win. I think

1291
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: one big question mark with this team this year is

1292
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: gonna be that offensive line, Like if they struggle to

1293
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: block all the good teams in the AFC have a

1294
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: good pass rush, right, I mean, the Bills have a

1295
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: good especially an edge rush. The Texans are gonna have

1296
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: a good pass rush. We saw the Chiefs. So the

1297
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: teams you're gonna have to beat the Steelers. I mean TJ.

1298
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: Watt looked like fucking Lawrence Taylor the other day watching

1299
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: that game the other day. Back He's like Jesus, this

1300
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: guy shot out of a rocket now the question that

1301
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: he's been banged up, like can he just if he

1302
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 2: stays healthy? I mean, he's got Defensive Player of the

1303
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: Year written all over him. Even the Browns, I mean

1304
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: their quarterback situation is a disaster, but Miles Garrett can

1305
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: wreck your world. He could do that fast. So it's like,

1306
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: are you gonna be able to block these guys or

1307
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 2: is Lamar just gonna have to run around for his life?

1308
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: And I think the question mark is if he has

1309
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: to run around for his life, which turns into sweet

1310
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: plays because he's one of the greatest runners we've ever seen.

1311
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: Can he just sustain all season having double digit runs

1312
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: against every good team they play. He's pretty good at

1313
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: like kind of getting down. He's not really a slider,

1314
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: but kind of doing the PLoP when he's running. But

1315
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: you just inevitably take extra hits and then it just

1316
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: adds up over the course of time. Taking my kids

1317
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: to see the Razorbacks first UAB Saturday Arkansas versus Oklahoma

1318
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: State was a fantastic watch on Saturday morning. I was

1319
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 2: glued overtime. It was good. Sam Pittman, you know, got

1320
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 2: the chubby, the boobs hanging Gundhy just hair flowing. I

1321
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: love a stadium. It doesn't really happen in the NFL,

1322
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: but in college when there's no room, when a dude

1323
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: catches it and he like runs into the wall. It

1324
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: just keeps you on the edge of your seat. Enjoy

1325
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: the game. Do you think with all the prop bets

1326
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: it opens up the possibility of guys cheating on stats.

1327
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: We have seen examples of point shaving and I can't

1328
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: imagine how many stories of cheating we never knew about.

1329
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: What are the chances that stat shaving is going on?

1330
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: Or will? Would love to hear your take on it. Also,

1331
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: I did a game parlay where you can manipulate the lines.

1332
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: I moved the line from the forty nine ers minus

1333
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: nine and a half under fifty one points and the

1334
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: back door TD with twenty five seconds left. It made

1335
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: the total fifty one. Have you ever seen a game

1336
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: in that spot where they went for two? No, it

1337
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 2: was wild. I won sixteen hundred bucks. Aggress to you

1338
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: the example in the NBA where the dude was shaving

1339
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: the prop bets and having guys bet a lot of

1340
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: money on his unders. He was a two way player.

1341
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: And in the NBA you can really control that. In

1342
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: the NFL, one let's use a lot of the prop

1343
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: betting guys. It would be wide receivers and running backs. Well,

1344
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 2: running backs have been bitching, moaning for years. They don't

1345
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: make that much money. All the good ones are making

1346
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: ten to thirteen fourteen million, right, they all make Any

1347
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: established player that is gonna take a lot of action

1348
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: is making big coin. The receivers, now, like, in what

1349
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: world would it make sense for any receiver worth their

1350
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: salt to even contemplate doing that? I mean low paid

1351
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: guys like Nico Collins twenty four million dollars a year.

1352
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: And with the prop bets, there are limits on how

1353
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 2: much you can bet on a prop bet. Like I

1354
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: can bet a million dollars on a game, I can't

1355
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: do that on a prop. So I don't think it's

1356
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: a big concert in the NFL, just like in the NBA, Like,

1357
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: why would any dude risk that when I'm making average guys?

1358
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 2: The average salary in the NBA is like eight million dollars.

1359
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: Obviously all the good players are making minimum. Like Klay

1360
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: Thompson took a pay cut. He's making like nineteen Obviously,

1361
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: all the stars make between thirty and sixty love this show.

1362
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: I listened to your feed and now Collins on CMC

1363
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason topic. A lot of people care because of

1364
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: prop bets, not money line or spread. Well, okay, the

1365
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 2: moment a guy is inactive, you're if you had money

1366
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: on Christian with a prop bet, you would just get

1367
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: your money back and like the once it becomes an

1368
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 2: option or you figure out Jordan Mason is going to start,

1369
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: his odds change. So yeah, I mean if you if

1370
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: he knew he was gonna start, you could have hammered him,

1371
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: I guess because his odds are really good. But Christian

1372
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: McCaffrey again today limited in practice. You know he's injured.

1373
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 2: So when I was looking at the prop bets, you

1374
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: would have hit them. So if you if you took

1375
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason like he hit them all, like the most

1376
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: yards on DraftKings you could have bet was like plus

1377
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: was over one hundred and twenty yards. I looked at

1378
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 2: that right when I saw Christian McCaffrey was inactive. But

1379
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: you see this all the time around the NFL. You

1380
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: don't know, like there are guys on the injury like

1381
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: Roll ma Adonday, Keenan Allen, are they gonna play this

1382
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: week or not. Eberflus doesn't need to tell you they're

1383
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: on the injury report. One might play, both might play,

1384
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: neither might play. So you can take their prod bets

1385
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 2: you could not. But there's like this is there's a

1386
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: risk in all this, Like they are not I'm all

1387
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: for transparency. There is a limit in which they a

1388
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: competitive disadvantage. They don't need to tell who's starting. It'd

1389
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: be like, what's the game plan? If you had every

1390
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: team's game plan right, you would go, God, keep an

1391
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 2: eye on this guy today. That's not the way it works.

1392
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: Like that's part of the game we're all playing, which

1393
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: is part of the fun. Okay, brock Perty this is

1394
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: from Jude brock. Purty led the league last year in

1395
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: complete a percentage of throws of twenty plus air yards.

1396
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: That's not hitches, check downs, bubble screens, or yakyards. This

1397
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: is factual data sourced on PFF. He was literally the

1398
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: freaking best in the NFL at dotting receivers down the field.

1399
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: But he still has a consideration as a big arm quarterback.

1400
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: Colin has praised the Ravens for years of building a

1401
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: team and then inserting Lamar. Lamar gets all the credit.

1402
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers also built a good team and

1403
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: Brock took advantage of it, but gets no credit. Well,

1404
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 2: there are two things can be true. He is a

1405
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: very accurate passer, but he doesn't have a big arm.

1406
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: He plays a starting quarterback in the NFL. He has

1407
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: an NFL arm, but like relative to NFL quarterbacks, I

1408
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 2: would not say he has an above average arm. But

1409
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: just because you have an above average arm, Anthony Rige

1410
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 2: and just threw one sixty five seventy yards off his

1411
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: back foot, but he went nine of nineteen. He's had

1412
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: the most accurate passer. So, like, two things can be true. Right,

1413
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: you don't need a big arm twenty yards down the

1414
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: field like he hat Jennings the other night. Great throw

1415
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: I yuke in the corner of the end zone, which

1416
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: I you dropped. But I would not consider Brock Purdy

1417
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: as a big arm guy. I think the difference of

1418
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: Lamar and Purdy is the Ravens had been struggling with

1419
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: Flacco and Lamar came and they started winning again. The

1420
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers had been winning before Brock was inserted

1421
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup. So if you're just using those

1422
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: two examples, like without Lamar and Joe Flacco, they were losing.

1423
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they had a couple of hundred five

1424
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: hundred seasons, and that year in which Lamar got inserted

1425
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: throughout the middle of the season for Flacco saved their

1426
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: season and then led him into the playoffs. You know,

1427
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: the forty nine have been in the Super Bowl with Jimmy.

1428
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 2: They had been to the NFC Championship the year before

1429
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 2: with Jimmy. When Jimmy broke his foot or whatever the

1430
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: hell happened, some bone or I don't even ankle, I

1431
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: forget exactly. I guess Trey was the ankle. Jimmy was

1432
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: the foot. They had been winning that year as well.

1433
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: So that's I think that's a part of the pushback

1434
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: on Purty too, is like his team was losing, or

1435
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: excuse me, his team had been winning, where Lamar in

1436
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: your example had not. But like two things can be true,

1437
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 2: Brock does not have Josh Allen's arm. He's a very

1438
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 2: accurate down the field passer, extremely and it's been a

1439
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: reason why the forty nine ers are by far the

1440
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: best version of the Kyle Shanahan forty nine ers with

1441
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: him over Jimmy who definitely was not accurate down the field,

1442
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: and as time went on, it got less and less accurate.

1443
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: And the other thing is, you know, Kyle didn't trust

1444
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: Jimmy down the field rightfully, so he does with Purdy.

1445
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: So when you have trust in your quarterback to make

1446
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 2: the throws down the field because he's accurate, you call

1447
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: more place, which they clearly do for him. Audios everybody,

1448
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: the volume