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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: His way up with Angela? He and y'all know, I

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Speaker 2: keep on stressing the importance of voting. I even just

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Speaker 2: hosted a mayoral debate watch party because I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: These debates have been, I think, more interesting than fictional

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Speaker 2: TV real life. And Michael Blake is here here is

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Speaker 2: running for mayor of New York City. Early voting started

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, so let's get into it. By the way,

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Speaker 2: love the purple my favorite color.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I didn't even know that, so I

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Speaker 3: was ready. You know, I'm repping Northwestern, But now I

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Speaker 3: knows your favorite color, so we're rocking right here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I was disappointed that you weren't in that second debate

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Speaker 2: that just happened the last one, because I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I won the first one, so they should have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were definitely most talked about during that first debate.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's just interesting to me because I

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Speaker 2: feel like your name has been buzzing. But it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's a disservice not to see everybody in these

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Speaker 2: debates has been getting ready for Yeah, like the.

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Speaker 3: Well first, much love to you because you you always

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Speaker 3: killing the game. So let me start right there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: The first debate. You know, I've been telling people when

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Speaker 3: you can have The New York Times, New York Posts,

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Speaker 3: Daily News all agree that one person wanted to debate.

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Speaker 3: They all said I want the debate. That that sent

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Speaker 3: the message to the city. And I think there's a

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Speaker 3: there's a difference here. The second debate, the only reason

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Speaker 3: we weren't on stage, quite frankly, was a miscommunication. You know,

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Speaker 3: campaign Finance Board says raising on their public guidelines, they

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Speaker 3: had internal guidelines said raised. It was a question around finances.

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Speaker 3: In terms of that, we should have been on stage.

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Speaker 3: We feel pretty strongly about that. And even still every

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Speaker 3: single day since the debate, we've had people coming across

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Speaker 3: remind people you don't have to go back to Cuomo

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Speaker 3: just because you know his name.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because the first time we really

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Speaker 1: On at Brick and it was it was you did

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Speaker 2: And it was basically just talking about the arts and

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Speaker 2: how important that is for New York City. And so

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Speaker 2: you definitely shined in that one as well. But I

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Speaker 2: want people to know your background as far as where

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Speaker 2: you've come from, from working where President Barack Obama to

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Speaker 2: where we are today, if you had to give people

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Speaker 1: They don't even know what ring choice voting is. And

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Speaker 2: There's been so much messaging going out to get people

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Speaker 2: make sure that we're still pounding that message in So

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Speaker 2: for you, if you had to describe what your career

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Speaker 2: has been like to now, just so people know who

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Speaker 2: Michael Blake is, can you tell us.

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Speaker 3: I start with full name, is Michael Alexander Blake named

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Speaker 3: after Jamaican politicians. My family's from Jamaica. I was one

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Speaker 3: Like we're on Eastern Parkway right now, say Oxtail writes

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Speaker 3: and Alexander Busta Monty that's what they named me after.

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Speaker 3: Born Christmas Night in the South Bronx North Central Bronx

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Speaker 3: I'm Bronx. I'm New York through and through in very

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Speaker 3: You know, this is what I know, right And when

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Speaker 3: is the best way to change the game at scale.

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Speaker 3: The moment you're born to the moment you get called

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad that you said that, because some

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Speaker 3: No, no, we're not. We're out here, we're not living

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Speaker 3: I originally was focused on TV, my degrees in journalism,

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Speaker 3: I ran all his black outreach, his minority women business

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Speaker 1: Brother's keeper, MBK.

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Speaker 3: I mean that our that was our whole vibe. And

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Speaker 3: I wanted to show these young cats on the block

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Speaker 2: I do think it's important that we represent, that we

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the disconnect when we see

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Speaker 2: that's not an easy thing to be able to do.

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Speaker 2: of mean that there I feel like people donate because

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Speaker 2: as a politician when people are supportive of you, but

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean they're expecting you to do the

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Speaker 3: they should have expectations, expectations that you're gonna have policies

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Speaker 3: and that's okay. I don't know any person that I agree

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Speaker 1: So you do tell your wife you're right all the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm very clear that I say, I understand, So I understand,

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Speaker 3: So it's like, look, you know, you know that is

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Speaker 3: running from Mayor because we deserve better and I want

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Speaker 3: to lay out a clear vision. Affordability is the biggest

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Speaker 3: crisis that's happening, Yes, full stop catches like it's too expensive.

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Speaker 2: And it's even how you got into the game, right

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Speaker 2: that's why that was it. And I want to talk

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Speaker 2: you said, affordability is an issue. Affordable housing is a

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Speaker 2: major issue. But at the same time, there's also the

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Speaker 2: It's not worth it for me. If somebody is not

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Speaker 2: And so what's the balance there that that can happen.

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Speaker 3: Everybody deserves to have a home you can afford, and

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Speaker 3: everybody deserves quality. My mama was homeless in Jamaica. We

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Speaker 3: we should have a local media and income because area

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Speaker 3: median income is not working. Okay, right, because air meeting

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Speaker 3: and homer ownership applications. We should increase the income limits

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Speaker 3: that's wrong. You take those kinds of steps, then people

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Speaker 3: have a better chance. Now, the next piece of this

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Speaker 3: should be a vacant apartment and a vacant commercial tax.

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Speaker 3: If this is not your primary residence, you have a

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Speaker 3: you give us revenue for the city. That just makes

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Speaker 2: What about a person who is not like saying, somebody

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Speaker 2: that's like they have a couple of properties, it's all

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Speaker 2: their money that they're invested in. They have a mortgage

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Speaker 2: people aren't paying their rent or how does that Because

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Speaker 2: I've seen that happen too, and I've seen people like

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Speaker 2: but then there are some people who they don't have

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Speaker 3: That these thirteen women who said that there was sexual

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Speaker 1: Right, only democratic democratic cities.

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Speaker 3: Right. This is we're seeing what's going on. Right, Bill

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Speaker 3: The main person focused on ending DEI. These cats don't

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I see that you and Mom Donnie have

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Speaker 2: So you just have to know who's your first choice,

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Speaker 3: No, no, well, first, your promos are helping out here,

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Speaker 3: so everybody's clear, New York City, we don't have runoffs

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Speaker 3: election day. There's eleven Democrats on the ballot. You can

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Speaker 3: I want everybody. I want you to rank me. Michael

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Speaker 3: We love you. That's my niece. But I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: like why got voted off that? God damn right. Dan's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. And so when people start to

437
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Speaker 3: hear that, they're like, oh, okay, now I understand why

438
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Speaker 3: my second and third choice matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I will say for some people, they might

440
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I like Michael Blake, but if he

441
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: doesn't get it, I wouldn't mind. Mom, Donny being it

442
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 2: or I wouldn't mind Adrian Adams, and so yeah, that

443
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Speaker 2: is yeah, that's how you rank that.

444
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Speaker 3: I have to rank them because if you don't and

445
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Speaker 3: your person gets knocked out, your vote's done. And I

446
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people internalize that. So there's

447
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Speaker 3: a lot of cats. This is why Clomo's in trouble

448
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Speaker 3: right now, cause I think there's a lot of people

449
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Speaker 3: that are voting for Culomo who are not ranking him,

450
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Speaker 3: and he won't be able to gain enough votes because

451
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Speaker 3: let's presume let's presume Clomo's at thirty percent, but if

452
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Speaker 3: no one else is ranking him, he can't gain anymore.

453
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Speaker 2: I mean, and you know, it's interesting because I don't

454
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 2: this is one election that I really don't know what's

455
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 2: about to happen, because I think for a while it

456
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 2: felt like Cuomo was gonna win just when he announced it.

457
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 2: We all knew he was about to announce it, but

458
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: I felt like there's been so much strong pushback, and

459
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Speaker 2: I don't think that Donald Trump helps the situation at all.

460
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Speaker 2: It actually hurts it because there is a lot of like, oh,

461
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Speaker 2: if this happens, this isn't New York.

462
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Speaker 3: At all at all. I think we're in a scenario

463
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Speaker 3: now when you were saying earlier that the coalition so Dream,

464
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Speaker 3: so you know, don't rank Evil Andrew from mayor. That's

465
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Speaker 3: what it is now, right, it used to be, don't

466
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 3: rank Eric and Andrew from Mayor. So everybody understands that.

467
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Speaker 3: So whenever you hear and see Dream, there have been

468
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Speaker 3: five people that have been put a part of that coalition.

469
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Speaker 3: So it's been myself, Zarmum, Donnie, Adrian Adams, Brad Lander, Zel, Normiri.

470
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Speaker 3: That's been the five that people are talking about for Dream.

471
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Speaker 3: And so what I'm saying is I want everybody listening,

472
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Speaker 3: Michael Blake rank me first. I'm the ninth one on

473
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Speaker 3: the ballot. If I'm not your first, I want to

474
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Speaker 3: be your second. But make it a point that your

475
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Speaker 3: Dream coalition gets ranked, because that gives the best chance

476
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Speaker 3: for one of those five to win.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just brought up Ice and so I

478
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 2: want to talk about that because I do think this

479
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 2: is such a humanitarian crisis seeing how human beings are

480
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Speaker 2: being treated. It's been absolutely heartbreaking for me to watch that.

481
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Speaker 2: Like I literally walk past people on the street and

482
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Speaker 2: I see them like at hotels and I've also heard

483
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Speaker 2: so many stories about kids not showing up to school,

484
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Speaker 2: about people not being able to go to work, you know,

485
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Speaker 2: families being torn apart. And I do think a lot

486
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: of the issue is that the policies are just not there.

487
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: There has to be a path towards citizenship, but it

488
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Speaker 2: feels like Trump just wants to get rid of all

489
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Speaker 2: black and brown people. Yes, and you know, white South Africans,

490
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Speaker 2: come on and you're good to go. We got to

491
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Speaker 2: make sure you get whatever it is that you need.

492
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Speaker 2: But when it comes to black and brown people, whether

493
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Speaker 2: or not you are here legally, whether or not you're

494
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Speaker 2: on the path to citizenship, whether or not you're trying

495
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Speaker 2: to do the right thing, it doesn't matter.

496
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Speaker 1: And everybody's in fear of what's going to happen.

497
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Speaker 2: Now for New York to fight against that, because I

498
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Speaker 2: do feel like New York is a place that we

499
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Speaker 2: do try to protect people. What do you think can

500
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Speaker 2: happen as mayor and what type of power would you

501
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Speaker 2: have to be able to help?

502
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Speaker 3: Well, First, i think it's important that we make the

503
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Speaker 3: immigration conversation expand it out because we've allowed Maga Republicans

504
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: to make it a Latino non a Latino conversation, right,

505
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: they try to block it all in and so I

506
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: always say, as someone who's family's from Jamaica, it's Latino,

507
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: it's Caribbean, it's Africa, all of us.

508
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Speaker 1: They're getting rid of everybody.

509
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Speaker 3: They're going to have to everybody, right, So let's be clear.

510
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Speaker 3: So to that first piece, ban ice full stop ice

511
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Speaker 3: is only permitted if there is a signed judicial warrant.

512
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Speaker 3: There should be no the time when ICE is entering places. Now,

513
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Speaker 3: as mayor, we can make sure we maintain a sanctuary

514
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Speaker 3: city status, which we need to. And the primary reason

515
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Speaker 3: why we have sanctuary cities is that then you're not

516
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Speaker 3: turning over information to the FED that should not be

517
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Speaker 3: going to them. The Feds can find you anyway, there's

518
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Speaker 3: no reason to give them more accesses that we're saying

519
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: through this Trump elon foolishness. Right. Next piece, we need

520
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: to make sure that schools, places of worship, community centers

521
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: are designated as safe havens because if you do that designation,

522
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: then again they can't just roll in. You take those steps.

523
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Speaker 3: Then also hire more attorneys to represent our immigrants and

524
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Speaker 3: these immigration hearings because too often people are going to

525
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Speaker 3: these hearings and they don't have someone protecting them, then

526
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Speaker 3: it's a rap. Right, you had about one hundred and

527
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Speaker 3: eighty thousand who did not have someone representing them. One

528
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty thousand just right there. You don't have

529
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Speaker 3: a chance at that point. So to that degree, those

530
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Speaker 3: are steps that we can take immediately, and that's what

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Speaker 3: I would take as mayor. Now the deeper piece that

532
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 3: people are regularly asking, how do you pay for all this?

533
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: When Trump tries to cut your money Vacant apartment commercial

534
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: tax that by itself gets you close to two billion.

535
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Speaker 3: We have two billion dollars right now of unclaimed fees

536
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Speaker 3: and fines, primarily from parking tickets. I don't want to

537
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: make folks nervous because of parking tickets, right, but I'm

538
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: just gonna say, I'm just saying, I see you Dan, Dan.

539
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: Dan's like, oh right, I'm just saying here about one

540
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: point four of that two billion, it's just parking. I

541
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: just want people to like, the money's out here, right

542
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: NYPD last year someone say it was one point three

543
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: someone say one point four billion dollars of excessive overtime

544
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: that NYPD was paid for overtime. So we have the

545
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: money to make sure we're protecting our immigrant communities and

546
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Speaker 3: protecting all of us. And then lastly, that means stopping

547
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Speaker 3: this nonsense that we keep hearing what folks are like, well,

548
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: if you help the immigrants, you're gonna be hurting me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's the main thing I want to say is people

551
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: feel like, well, what's going on with taking care of

552
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: New Yorkers who don't have a place to live, who

553
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: are struggling with housing, who are struggling with money, with

554
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Speaker 2: childcare and all of those things. People feel like that

555
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: takes away if we have money to pay. And I

556
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: see this quite frequently on my timeline because I still

557
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: am on X and I don't know why I see

558
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: certain things that I see, but anyway, I see people say.

559
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: Elone trying to drive some stuff.

560
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: To you, okay, all the time.

561
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Speaker 2: But what I see is people saying, well, I don't

562
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: have housing, but you guys are providing hotels for immigrants.

563
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Speaker 3: So this is the epitome of the mastery of Republican messaging,

564
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: right that they have allowed us to believe that in

565
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Speaker 3: the city of New York City, where we have one

566
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen billion dollar budget, that was this large

567
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: before the migrant situation, that somehow you not having heat,

568
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: hot water, better schools, better jobs for decades is because

569
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 3: migrants started showing up last year. That don't make any

570
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: damn sense, like in any regard. So the reality is

571
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: it's about priorities in lack of leadership. And I will

572
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: remind people one of the reasons I'm running from Mayor

573
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: is the day that Eric Adams was on the plane

574
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Speaker 3: to fly to DC to meet with the White House,

575
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Speaker 3: where he was taking selfie videos out how he was

576
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Speaker 3: going there to talk about the immigrant crisis. He did

577
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: not do that meeting because his fundraiser had been raided

578
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 3: and he came back to New York. So whenever I

579
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: hear this notion of DC is the reason why this

580
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: is not happening. Yo, my man, you literally canceled on

581
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: the White House because your staff was being raided. So

582
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: fall back, So when we're in this zone of what

583
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: are we doing here, how do you help our immigrants

584
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: pay our nonprofits on time that helping our immigrant communities?

585
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: How do you help our immigrants make sure that when

586
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: people are coming here, they're actually getting supported and protected.

587
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: Because this notion of like they're all criminals is just

588
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: nonsense at all, foolishness.

589
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Speaker 2: Listen, we have more criminals here then, and I think

590
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Speaker 2: in general, most people want to do the right thing.

591
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Speaker 2: And it's so interesting to me to see people crying

592
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Speaker 2: on social media about, oh, you know, I voted for Trump,

593
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: but I didn't think that I would be deporting the

594
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: people that work for my company. I thought he would

595
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: only be deporting criminals. To them, everyone's a criminal, Oh

596
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: yeah they are. They could look at you and be like, yeah,

597
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: you could tell he's you gotta go.

598
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: That's who they are. It's in point, I think we've

599
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: treated life too often in this current social media environment.

600
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: In a twenty twenty five future, beyond mindset, let's make

601
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: sure we take a step back. Donald Trump and his family.

602
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: His family is included in KKK writings. That's not me

603
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: saying that that's public information. Him and his daddy were

604
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: sued because they wouldn't give black and brown people housing. Absolutely,

605
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: he took out a full page ad against the now

606
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: exonerated five.

607
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: And still acts like he wasn't wrong.

608
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: For that, so like legit, like that was his still.

609
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: To this day has never said I was I'm sorry

610
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Speaker 2: at all.

611
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: Let a birther movement against Barack Obama said his main

612
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Speaker 3: policy priority was to build a wall to keep the

613
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: Mexicans out, the criminals, the rapists. Like so when people

614
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: are like, I don't know how we got here, this

615
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: is who this man is.

616
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Speaker 1: For people who are surprised, this is not what I

617
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: voted for it.

618
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: To talk about, this is who he is. And so

619
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Speaker 3: connecting it to New York City. When you have someone

620
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: in Eric who is rocking with this talking about we're

621
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: gonna allow icon to rikers, that we're gonna allow these

622
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: things to happen, is crazy.

623
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Speaker 2: Do you think Eric Adams is always like this or

624
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: do you think something changed?

625
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: I think when you have someone who was a registered

626
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: Republican under Juliani, as a former NYPD captain, who has

627
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: had the increase of stop unconstitutional stopping frisk that did

628
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: not just happen this year, that's been consistent, Eric is

629
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: who he is.

630
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Speaker 2: Because I felt like as Brooklyn Borough President, I had

631
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: high hopes for Eric Adams. I think a lot of

632
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: us did. But I don't know when things I don't know.

633
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: I just Eric. I mean, look, Eric ran on a

634
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: post with real president. Eric ran on a posed for

635
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: State Senate, I think, coming back to the rank choice conversations,

636
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: I think if we all did a better job four

637
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: years ago of communicating about options, Eric wouldn't have one.

638
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: He barely won four years ago, and I just think

639
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: that what we are watching right now, especially that he's

640
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: now running as an independent.

641
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: Do you think he's even in the conversation to be

642
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: mayor again or you think that's.

643
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: I think the fact that Donald Trump could win two

644
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: out of three times, it's impossible for someone to say

645
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: someone can't win. I think it's very unlikely, right. But

646
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: I do think New York City needs to really internalize

647
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: Eric Adams made a choice that put him in this

648
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: situation and then made a choice to run as an

649
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: independent because he knew he couldn't win as a Democrat.

650
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: So that should be telling you all you need to

651
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: know about where he stands, right, Because if he thought

652
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: I could still win this thing, then run your race, right.

653
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: And the notion of sitting on the sidelines in this

654
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: way is kind of crazy. And so what I say

655
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: to people is you want a different choice. You want

656
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: to have a black candidate that's ready. You want to

657
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: have someone who's the son of immigrants, you want to

658
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: have someone who's a husband, bonus father on the I've

659
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: done this and this is who I am. You don't

660
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: have to go to Andrew Cuomo, you don't have to

661
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: go to Eric Adams. You can choose Michael Blake and

662
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: then you should rank the rest of your slate. So

663
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: you actually have five people that believe in what you're

664
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: trying to say right now?

665
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: What do you think about City of Yes, City Yes.

666
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: Didn't go far enough. City of Yes and City for All,

667
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: and they reframed it. The vision of it of needing

668
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: to build more housing. The vision of it is right,

669
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: but they didn't execute it well. I think at the

670
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: end of the day, you have about five hundred and

671
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: fifty thousand units you need right now to address the

672
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: affordability crisis, and about ten years is about nine hundred

673
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: and sixty five thousand for us to achieve that you

674
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: have to build. So I've always said you have to

675
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: build more units to address affordable housing. It's linear, right. However,

676
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm also saying you must have local media and income

677
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: because it doesn't matter if you build if the rates

678
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: are still the same. City of Yes didn't fix that,

679
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: so they didn't fix the main problem of affordability. So

680
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: you didn't build enough that you need and you didn't

681
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: change the formulas. So how is that a city of Yes,

682
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: how's that city? For all? That doesn't make sense to me?

683
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: And it's things like that when people are saying, yo,

684
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: what are your politicians doing? Right, I'm saying to you,

685
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: I can't afford this, and your win, your big win

686
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: that they're out here talking about, didn't fix the problem. Again,

687
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense to me. So when we talk

688
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: through what are we trying to make happen, what we

689
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: need to be making happen is build responsibly. You know,

690
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: have the incentives for landlords and developers who are doing

691
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: get the right way, because I do think you have

692
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: to have an economic incentive and if they do it

693
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: the right way and then you keep your incentive and

694
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: if you don't revoke.

695
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: It, and the right way is for them to have

696
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: a certain percentage of affordable housing.

697
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely that is specific to the middle class in a

698
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: very real way. Right now, we've incentivized a system where

699
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: you have to be essentially poor enough for them to say,

700
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to do it based upon

701
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: areamedia income or a market rate if you're in between,

702
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: you're pretty much jammed up. And so to me incentivized

703
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: to build towards the middle class, why are so many

704
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: people working in New York but they liveing in Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania.

705
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: They're like, they're like, I can't, I cannot afford this.

706
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: I want to be in New York, but I can't, right,

707
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: And a lot of it is because of just quite frank,

708
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: just dumb ass policies that just don't make logical sense.

709
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: We have a scenario right now where we know, you

710
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: do three or four specific things, you change the game immediately,

711
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: but we're not doing it because of lack of leadership.

712
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: We're not doing it because people want to be aligned

713
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: to these developers, these large scale developers. And when you

714
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: ask me about city of Yes and other policies, I'll

715
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: even switch it to to nights in New York City

716
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: Housing Authority, public Housing. You had cats right now who

717
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: were arrested and have lost their jobs because they were

718
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: banking in bribes to not fix units. Like your job

719
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: was to actually fix these units and they weren't doing it.

720
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: So like the scenario that we're in right now is

721
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: that people are not helping the people, you know, and

722
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: I try to give real practical examples. I think we

723
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: should have a technology for good that every single resident

724
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: should be able to track how their ticket is closed

725
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: out for repairs in their home.

726
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, and that should be public so that yeah,

727
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: not doing it.

728
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: Then I can order food, a flight, a car on appliance.

729
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: I can do all that on my phone to my

730
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: house right now, But I can't track in one place

731
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: how you fix something in my home in a service Again,

732
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense.

733
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: You know what?

734
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: I want to ask you to a casino in New

735
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 2: York City. We've been seeing all these bids going in.

736
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Is it Hudson Yards, is it Times Square? What do

737
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: you think about a casino in midtown?

738
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: I think it makes a lot of sense, whether it

739
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: be Midtown or around in Queens, I know, I mean Queens. Definitely,

740
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: there's this space that would make sense because they've been

741
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: able to demonstrate that, you know, you know, data point

742
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: like the US Open. I've seen this the last few years.

743
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: US opening that two week peer gets more foot traffic

744
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: and attendance than the Yankees and Mets getting through their

745
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: home games. Okay, right, so like we know they can

746
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: handle that kind of quantity.

747
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was thinking Midtown is going to be crazy.

748
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: You're crazy, So I think you got to look at

749
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: other places, maybe out of boroughs to me, creating a

750
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: casino where you clearly will generate revenue, right, people are grown.

751
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: If I can trust people to go play the lot

752
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 3: of the little bodega and go get their big red

753
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: right and do whatever they're doing, for me to then

754
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: say the same time, I'm not trusting you to go

755
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: to a casino that doesn't make logical sense to me. Right,

756
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: so we could get revenue, people can exercise their rights

757
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: as adults responsibly. You naturally will then have restaurants and

758
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: other commercial activity that would happen there. Why not do this?

759
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of times what's happening is

760
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 3: people like, well, I don't want that in my area, right,

761
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, so you don't want more money

762
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: in your area, you don't want more foot I think

763
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: in your area, you don't want more positive benefit here.

764
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: But we're acknowledging that we don't have enough money for

765
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: the services we need. Doesn't make sense. And I think

766
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: a lot of that is just poor messaging. And this

767
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: is a scenario where not only do you need to

768
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: have the right policies, but you have to have better

769
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: messengers to get people to see there are benefits to this.

770
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: It may seem very disparate, but I actually treated very

771
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: similar to the Rikers conversation, because we need to close Rikers,

772
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: but we need borrow based jails, and folks be like,

773
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to borrow based jail. So I was like, okay,

774
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: so then where are these people going to go?

775
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they've been talking about closing Rikers for so

776
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: long now, and yeah, it's like, okay, you know what

777
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: I do want to ask you, as a Brooklyn resident

778
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: and a New York you know, lifelong resident, I want

779
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: to talk about a lot of the businesses closing, because

780
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: that is one thing that I hear. You know, I

781
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: have a business in Brooklyn, Coffee Upless people, and.

782
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: We pulled up there with our crew. You know, we

783
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: did an event a few weeks ago, so shout out

784
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: to you again, thank you.

785
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: And we've been seeing a lot of businesses in the

786
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: neighborhood closing, which has been really tragic and sad. There's

787
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: places that have been like neighborhood you know spots for

788
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: so long We've seen bedvine clothes, you know, we've seen

789
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: the grill and park slow clothes, We've seen lovers just

790
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: so many different places.

791
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: I just saw, like I think Nightmark is about to close.

792
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: I've just Sawted earlier today in BK, which is like.

793
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Yeah, it's wild. What's happening right now? What

794
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: is going on with our small businesses? Because we all

795
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: know that is the heartbeat of New York City, But

796
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: it's been really challenging, and I have to say as

797
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: a business owner myself, it has been really challenging with

798
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: the cost of goods going up, people not wanting to

799
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: spend as much money as they wanted to, but then

800
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: also with gentrification, people in the neighborhood complaining.

801
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: More than half of Americans do not have five hundred

802
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: dollars in their account of the emergency happens. So I

803
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: want to start there to your question, more than half

804
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: of Americans don't have five hundred dollars emergent happen. So

805
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: we talk about small business. When small businesses are waiting

806
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: to get paid from the city government, when small businesses

807
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: are battling terrible regulation and red tape, when small businesses

808
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: are not having people addressed the mental health crisis, so

809
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: that you have people defecating and pissing on your sidewalks

810
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: and kicking in windows, right when you have a scenario

811
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: where people don't have enough money to spend the way

812
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: they normally did, where they're saying I just got my

813
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: check and two days later, I don't know how I'm

814
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: making it for the next twelve to thirteen days. All

815
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: of that is intertwined that we have to help more

816
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: small businesses. And as someone who runs small businesses myself,

817
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: you know we have Atlas Strategy Group, we have our

818
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: effort at Cairos like I notice myself, you have to

819
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: understand that all these pieces need to have a mayor

820
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: that's actually helping you. And it may seem disconnected, but

821
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: in this environment, I do believe being an immigrant of

822
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: color who runs a business also makes me uniquely qualified

823
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: because I have felt the ramifications of the Trump agenda

824
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: of contracts being canceled. Yeah, because people afraid of DEI

825
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: and what that may mean to them. Are folks saying,

826
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't have enough money to be

827
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: the customer that I used to be, so I can't

828
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: pull up at your storefront, right I can't shop the

829
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: way I used to because I just don't have it

830
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: like I used to because they just cut off my

831
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: deal out here.

832
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: And it's hard because coffee beans cost more save for us,

833
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: So now we're paying way way higher, pricing much more.

834
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: And then who do we pass that cost on to fundamentally,

835
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: And it's just.

836
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: It's a vicious, vicious cycle based upon a man who's

837
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: creating policies and stating policies that are hurt in us,

838
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: right and so when you're intertwined that, then it's like, Okay,

839
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: how do we fill that gap? We have three point

840
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: one billion dollars in cash reserves right now in the city,

841
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: not including pensions. So I'm just talking about in that

842
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: rainy day. There are some in the race who are

843
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: saying we shouldn't touch that at all. I completely disagree

844
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: with that because I'm in a zone. We are in

845
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: a cost of living emergency right now.

846
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 2: It is a rainy day like right now every weekend,

847
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: past twelve weeks, it's.

848
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: Pouring pouring out here and to the small businesses right, look,

849
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: yours is a perfect example because you're you're right there

850
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: on the corner, right, So when you have a spot

851
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: right on the corner. Clearly, y'all know I've been there.

852
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: Cut no, exactly the vision right there, like when you

853
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: have a spot right on the corner, and especially when

854
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: you have a coffee spot with so much glass like that.

855
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: Like at any moment, if someone acts a fool, yeah,

856
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: it's happened, changes the dynamics immediately immediately, because now folks

857
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: are like, okay, well hold on, you know, you know,

858
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: do I pull up? What's going on? Now? You got

859
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: to pay expenses and repairing this and there are ramifications

860
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: in the cycle of that all intertwined. So for me,

861
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: how do we help small businesses? One of the specific

862
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: things I do think a thousand mental health professionals on

863
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: the streets and subways actually fixes this because then you

864
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: do two things the people who need help who are

865
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: creating challenges out here, as well as you can then

866
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: have NYPD with body cameras on, do more walk and patrol.

867
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: It calms things down.

868
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Take the subway.

869
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah me, two thousand percent. I'm on that too far regularly.

870
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: That'd be wild. Sometimes I'm not gonna lie it.

871
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

872
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: As much as the MTA is saying they need to

873
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: fix the trains and they want us to take the

874
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: train or it is definitely Sometimes I'm like, oh today.

875
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Was it's it's and you got to think about these

876
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: things and you do you'd be like, okay, let me

877
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 3: get this straight. So like okay, my man is out here,

878
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: no shirt, no pants, just sitting on it like okay,

879
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: all right, and I'm wondering how's this is gonna go

880
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: out here?

881
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: Right?

882
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: Which impact small business impacts because the worker workers like

883
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't have a choice. Yeah, I gotta make this

884
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: move this way. This morning, I was making moves down here,

885
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: had to make the decision quick. Okay, how do I

886
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: get down here best? That's why it was taking the

887
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: d from one to six to one down to fifty

888
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: ninth right now? Oh Paul, that's kind of crazy, but

889
00:40:52,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: but like the reality is right, so like fall off

890
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: the way back okay, So like you know we at

891
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: here right now, Brooklyn b X out here okay. So

892
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: it's like it's that quick moment of like all right,

893
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: it would be more expensive, more traffic, more chaos going

894
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: that way. Let me ride the train. Let me make

895
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: but I ride the train, and you've seen some.

896
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: Things I definitely do go fran Jasmine. She comes from

897
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: DC and I take her on the train with me.

898
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: She actually enjoys taking a train because she's not from here,

899
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: so it's not like and.

900
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, Angela's smoking crack. I'm like, bro,

901
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: just look the other way.

902
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 3: Just just keep it moving. Mind your business, Mind your business,

903
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: don't don't get involved going out and ask questions. Help,

904
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: just just keep your eyes locked in right now.

905
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: But you know, I know that's also another issue that

906
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: the MTA is having with people not paying their fare,

907
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: and that's been something that's caused huge financial issues for them.

908
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: We gotta do. Look, I think there's three things we

909
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: gotta do. One, you got to help people make more money.

910
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: M hm, right, But it be people who make money.

911
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 2: That's not I mean, it's like, but that's the next

912
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: poit people, it's people with the Starbucks and you know,

913
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: jumping the train.

914
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: That's better. The next piece, help people make more money.

915
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 3: Then actually change these laws and all beeny for repeat

916
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: defenders so that if cats are regularly jumping turnstiles, I

917
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: think you can give someone a summons made the first time,

918
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: and if you say they do it regularly, I do.

919
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: You got to because there's no one there a lot

920
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, because but the cops.

921
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: Are not doing things. They see anything, they're like, ya, I'm.

922
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Good because I've seen people say why would I pay

923
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: my fair? Nobody else paid before me. I'm watching that.

924
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: Which and and and the cops that are there effectively saying, well,

925
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: why would I waste my time doing this? It's a

926
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 3: lot of paperwork, paperwork, and they're going right back out.

927
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: So it's like, okay, you consistently jumping these turnstiles. You're

928
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: consistently doing this. Okay, I'll give you some of the

929
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: first thing that I'm not someone is saying you got

930
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: to ticketed to someone every single time for every single thing,

931
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: and then we got to you know, you want to

932
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: over criminalize. But if someone's doing it five six, seven times,

933
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: ah yo, my man, let's have this conversation, like what

934
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: are we doing right here? Right? But I think the

935
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: other piece, and you're starting to see this at some

936
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: of these train stations, we have a nineteen hundred mta

937
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, right, Like it's so arcane. I mean,

938
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: we want faster trains. We got to have better signal system.

939
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: That's a whole other piece, but like actually have turnstiles

940
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: where it's a little bit higher so that you can't

941
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: be out here just jumping, right, So if someone tries

942
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 3: to go to the gate, if you have an officer there,

943
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: and then you change the laws so that repeat defenders

944
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: are not able to just walk way easily, then people

945
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: don't think twice because cats are right now effectively saying, yeah,

946
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this because there's no accountability you're gonna have,

947
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: and the cops are effectively saying, I'm not gonna risk

948
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: losing my job because you jumped the turnstile and you're

949
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: going to be back out tomorrow tonight. Doesn't make sense.

950
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: And again I just think it's a scenario where our

951
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 3: policies didn't make logical sense.

952
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a lot of work.

953
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: I feel like, aside from COVID, this is one of

954
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: the craziest times to be mayor of New York.

955
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: It's safe because there's.

956
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: So many different challenges now with the presidency and bumping

957
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: heads with that, and you know, just the needs that

958
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: we have right now, the financial crisis that we're in,

959
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: you know, just so many different things, and even back

960
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: to the small businesses, you know, gentrification has I feel

961
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: like in Bedstye from what I see and have experienced.

962
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: You know, people calling, They're not from the neighborhood, but

963
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: they're here and they're making a lot of complaints.

964
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, it's best die like we outside.

965
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: We outside outside. It could be best side, could be

966
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: South Ronks. Yeah, you know, look, it could be slapplush

967
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: all the time. You ready know. We got a lot

968
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: of love flab show us lat love, y'all gon to

969
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: see us out here a lot in the next few days.

970
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 3: It's but I go back to one of the reasons

971
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: why I decided to run. It's not just you electing

972
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: someone for twenty twenty five, right, it's come January first,

973
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Given everything we talked through, who is

974
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: best prepared and has the best vision for what's coming.

975
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: And we have a man in d See who is

976
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: making it very clear he does not give a damn

977
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: by New York City and he's going to attack us

978
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: every possible way. So you have that, you have a

979
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: financial crisis, you have a mental health crisis, you got

980
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: all these different things happening. Going back to an Andrew

981
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: Cuomo is not the answer that is not the answer.

982
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: You got to pick someone and pick people who are

983
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: actually showing you. And what I say to folks, look

984
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: at the track record, look at the vision. During COVID,

985
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: we partner the World Central Kitchen and small businesses shout

986
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: out to beat stro Bronx draft House. We fed folks

987
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: across New York City. Right, that's what we did. Think

988
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: about what we trying to do for these kids, civics, financialists,

989
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: and mental health. Talk through the mental health conversation we

990
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: just had about public safety, right like you know. And

991
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 3: then the credit scores. I just I think credit scores

992
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: and changeing income, you change the game immediately. That's the

993
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: vision I want to have. And I keep telling folks,

994
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: do you want to see what we're doing, go to

995
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: our website, you know, BLAKEFANYC dot com. They'll be able

996
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: to see all that there. But if you want to

997
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: change the game, you have to change the mayor.

998
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I appreciate you, Michael Blake for coming through.

999
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 2: Who is your two, three, four and five?

1000
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: Well, I said, Zorn's my two, right. You know I've

1001
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: been clear about that. I know who are in those

1002
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 3: other three spots. I'm still deciding on order, and I'm

1003
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: not trying to be based on the question.

1004
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I want an hour. Who's in the other three spots

1005
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: in no particular order?

1006
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: So Adrian xellnor Brad right now, you know those are

1007
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: those there?

1008
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Okay?

1009
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: You know Scott might sneak in somehow, right, so we're

1010
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: still figuring that out. I really do want to see

1011
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: how people make some decisions and answers this week, right,

1012
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: like you can't watch you can't watch what's going on

1013
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: in LA and now thank you know that could happen here.

1014
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: So what are you saying about this?

1015
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: Those are all people. I like that you said that.

1016
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: You know, as I'm trying to put together my my

1017
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: starting five.

1018
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: You gotta find your five. I want to be your

1019
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: number one. I'm trying to be your You a number

1020
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: one yet, Angela.

1021
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't know yet.

1022
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: I told you That's why I've been paying attention to everything,

1023
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: talking to everybody. I've been doing my research because I

1024
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: like to go in with my plan set because we're

1025
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: not just voting for mayor either, you know, so we

1026
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: just have to make sure we know exactly what we're

1027
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: doing all the things.

1028
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: Mayor Borough President Comtroller, public Advocate, City Council racist and

1029
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: in some parts of the city. They also have district

1030
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: leader races happening here. So there's a lot that's going on.

1031
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: See what's on that ballot.

1032
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: First votes go in y C Votes. NYC Votes has

1033
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: also individual videos for us. But I'm also gonna make

1034
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: a plug. There's a great quiz on the city, the

1035
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: city and gothamis. They made avatars. It actually pretty dope

1036
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: where you can type in, it has the questions and

1037
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 3: then it pops up the percentage match to the candidate.

1038
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like that.

1039
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: It's really really dope.

1040
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm so torn right now because I do

1041
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: think there's some like great candidates. I'm trying to figure

1042
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: out what order I'm putting things. I know who I'm

1043
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: not voting for, you're not voting for. Talked about this.

1044
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not in Clomo in my top five. Yeah,

1045
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: so that's I'm a woman, So that alone is reason enough.

1046
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: Yo, no quomo, no paper boy.

1047
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Pen rhyme with that.

1048
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yah yah, you've already you've already been out

1049
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: of pocket once in this conversation. You know, that's what

1050
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: y'all here doing right now. So we can don't listen

1051
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: to Angela. Right there, that was good, right there. You

1052
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: can pick five people. Uh yeah, like I said, ny

1053
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 3: votes again, I'm not just saying this because you've been

1054
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: killing the game here. You've been a You've been a

1055
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: necessary voice and getting people understand rank choice voted yes.

1056
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Well, no, thank you. I appreciate it. That is my goal.

1057
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: That's why I was like, let's have a debate party,

1058
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: let's talk about it, let's watch it as a family.

1059
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: We got to watch all of this because I think

1060
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: people go in there, like you said, and they don't

1061
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: know who the candidates are. And it's so important to

1062
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: look for yourself and hear the words come out of

1063
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: people's mouths, and then hold them accountable.

1064
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: Afterward, hold me accountable, elect me mayor then hold me.

1065
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: Accountable absolutely that purple time. You're not a cue, right

1066
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: just what I'm just playing with you.

1067
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: I know, you know I'm an Alpha all day every day.

1068
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know Angela is just choosing violence during

1069
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: this right here, Jeuz, I need you to vote for

1070
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: me though.

1071
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: Shout out to the alphas.

1072
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: Shout out to the alphas. You know, we got our

1073
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: black and gold all day and I got my alpha

1074
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: pen right there.

1075
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, It's way up

1076
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: Always way up.