1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Somebody Knows, Scary clues and the disappearance of a gorgeous 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: young daughter just twenty who leaves odd traces behind before 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: she seemingly vanishes from a roadside restaurant. That restaurant also 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: tied to the death of a twenty one year old 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: dad goes searching and finds her car, her wallet, her keys, cash, 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: but no Keyesln Tonight, where is Keyeslyn Roberts. Good evening. 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: being with us. 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: I dream about her being home already and as fine dinner, 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: and I'm just holding on to that hope that we 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: can bring her back home safely. 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: Thing. 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: What is this situation that you know is there was 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: one dream that we was waiting to go to a 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: facility to stay here and she's been thanking, and that 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: was going to get to bring her back home. And 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: then there was another one that was just suddenly just 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: out of the believe she was already back homely as 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: this and it was just so good to have her, 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: and I was hugging her and just oh, it was 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: so nice for her to be back home and. 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Be back by this again. And then I just wake up, and. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: Then it just seems so real. But then I realized it's. 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: What you are hearing. 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Kaeslyn's mom, Shannon describing heartbreaking dreams of Keaslin being back 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: home and they're all family again, and they're happy and 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: they're hugging each other, and then she wakes up and 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: it all just vanishes again. Thank you for being with 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: us in our search for Kaeslyn Roberts joining me right 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: now her parents, Eric Roberts and Shannon Roberts. 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm. 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: Thinking back how the whole thing started, and at first 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: the dad, Eric thought her car had just broken down. 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Listen, not that. 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: Something bad had happened. Maybe her car broke down. So 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to the location where I 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 5: know she was. The thing is is I own a 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 5: trucking company and I got for her, so I know 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 5: what goes on in these parking lots. They're not good things, 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 5: most of them bad. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 6: But it's just a cure for her to. 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: Be there at that time. 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 6: I had no reasoning why she would be at that 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 6: location for her car be abandoned there. 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Back to you, Kiesel's parents, Eric and Shannon Roberts, Guys, 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us, because you know, 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: very often we hear about a missing person, we read 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: the statistics, but we don't know about that person. And 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: the more I find out about Keeslin, the more I'm 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: convinced she would never have left her car at that 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: roadside restaurant to be found the way it was Willingly 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: to Eric and Shannon Roberts, What do you recall of 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: the moment you realize, mister Roberts that Keysln had vanished 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: or broken. 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Davis, dating. 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,279 Speaker 1: What happened that day, Miss Roberts, Well. 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: I was at work and ericid went down there and 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: he found her car at the Flying j and he 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: text me and told me about it, and I was like, 61 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what And He's like, I don't know where. 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: He said that we can't find her, you know, And 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: so I was I was trying to text her. 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 7: And no answer. 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: Her texts were not going through at all. And he 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: was going to follow the mis impression report with the 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: Gordon County and for some odd reason they told him 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: to go to Mury County. So he got with one 69 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: of the officers and followed the misimpression report and he'd 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: ended up getting her card and bringing it back home. 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: You know, we've waited for days, you know, until we 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: heard something, you know, from the law enforcement to begin, 73 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, trying to search. 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: For you know too. 75 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: Jason Jensen, private investigator, cold case expert joining us, co 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 2: founder of the cold case coalition Jensen Private Investigations. Jason, 77 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. It's called routine evidence. 78 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: And this reminds me so much of another high profile 79 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: case of Gabby Petito. I spoken to her parents and 80 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: they both said she's got the mom and the stepdad, 81 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: and the dad and the stepmom who united in forced 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: to try to find Gabby Patito. 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: And they were getting very. 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Odd texts from Gabby that didn't seem like her at all. 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: For instance, it would be as if my son texted 86 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: me and said, miss Nan Grace, I've arrived at school. 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: That would not be from him. He'd say, Mom, I'm 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: at school, right. They were getting that kind of text 89 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: and then no text. And that's exactly what we're hearing 90 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: from Keesland's mom. They text it back and forth all 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: the time, so when Keesland stops texting, they know something 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: is wrong. 93 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 8: Jason, You're right, Nancy, that's a bad sign right there. 94 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 8: I mean, given the fact that they can't find her, 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 8: and they can't find her phone, oftentimes there's evidence that's 96 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 8: you in that phone of the last persons that they 97 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 8: were in contact with, if there was an intended or 98 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 8: planned rendezvous or something like that, So that would be 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 8: a prime piece of evidence that would be a doctor 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 8: or somebody responsible for her disappearance would want to collect 101 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 8: and dispose of. So it's not available as evidence to. 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: Deale Carson joining me, high profile lawyer out of the 103 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: Jacksonville area, and importantly from me today, former FBI agent, 104 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: former cop out of Miami Dade, never like a business there, 105 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: author of arrest proof yourself at del Carsonlaw dot com. 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Dell. 107 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: Now, of course a defense attorney would make hey out 108 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: of this a hunch, a feeling, and then struck up 109 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: and down in front of a jury real claiming that 110 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: means nothing. But I guarantee you that any mother or 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: father on a jury when they would hear something like 112 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: mister and missus Robert say she didn't tax ut back 113 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: and we just knew something was wrong. 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think there's. 115 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: Anything more powerful than a mother's intuition, knowing the child, 116 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: knowing their ways, their moves. 117 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Their modes of communication. What do you think. 118 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 9: Well, absolutely, moms and their feelings about particularly chill their children, 119 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 9: you know, are very important, not only the jury panels, 120 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 9: but to investigators. I can recall a number of occasions 121 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 9: when mothers showed up at the FBI office and demanded 122 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 9: we take an action, even though in some circumstances we 123 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 9: were not under the laws prohibited allowed to do that. 124 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 9: But of course the power of a mother often causes 125 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 9: a lot of action among investigators. And of course that's 126 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 9: what needed to happen here because the FBI has an 127 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 9: ability to transit everywhere in the country in an instant today, 128 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 9: and searching for a young girl is something that every 129 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 9: investigator wants to find for their family and for the 130 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 9: notoriety of having found the person. 131 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: I want to go back to Eric and Shannon Roberts 132 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: joining us, and they'll be joined by doctor Jory Kraus 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: and psychologist and investigative reporter and journalist Connie Hallscott. To 134 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: mister and missus Roberts, let me tell you what happened. 135 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: So this was a couple of years ago when the 136 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: twins John daven Less my children were in. 137 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: The fifth grade. 138 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: We found out we got noticed that their band, they 139 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: played in the band, Okay, she played a french horn, 140 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: he played saxophone, had been invited to play at Disney 141 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: in Florida. And of course I was so proud, you know, 142 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: my heart nearly burst out of my chest. They were 143 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: going to get sent down to Disney to play on 144 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: stage with their band. Well, it was immediately torpedoed by fear. 145 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: How are they going to get there? 146 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: We've never been apart before like this, with you in 147 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: one state and me in a completely different state. And 148 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: then I said, well, how are y'all going to get 149 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: down there? And they said, we're going to take a 150 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: chartered bus. I'm like, that's a really long drive. And 151 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: they said, well, we're going to stop at several rest 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: stops along the way. And of course I turned to 153 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: my husband said, over my cold dead body, okay, I 154 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: follow them, wife, if you want. 155 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Now. 156 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: Remember that's when they were just eleven or twelve years old. 157 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: I did not want them getting off a bus. And 158 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: you know, there's fifty children for these chaperons to watch. 159 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Wonderful chaperones. 160 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: I was going to watch them myself at every truck 161 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: stop where they stop and guess what. They stopped four 162 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: times along the way, and they would all pour off 163 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: the bus and go running, running in different directions, some 164 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: to the bathroom, some to get food, some just running around. 165 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: You're right, mister Roberts, your daughter goes missing at a 166 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: roadside restaurant. To put it euphemistically, you said in your 167 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: comments that you have driven trucks and you know about 168 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: roadside restaurants. 169 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: Explain what you meant. 170 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 6: I mean things going on there. It's mostly at mine, 171 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 6: but that does happen during today. I mean, you got 172 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 6: drugs on your door. Love to say, oh you've got 173 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 6: prostitution knocking on your door, but you know it's everywhere. 174 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 6: It's happened now rest areas, you know, the same thing. 175 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 6: So but you know a corporation that it's targeting truck 176 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 6: drivers the stuff at their veracity, it should be a 177 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 6: slave haven. It should be secured, it should be guarded 178 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 6: by guards the area. 179 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: You know, they've been called rest stops. As a former 180 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: prosecutor for many, many years, I've always called them a 181 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: rest stops because everything you can imagine goes down at 182 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,479 Speaker 2: these as. They are called roadside restaurants. You know, it's 183 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: interesting how you thought something was off. You know about 184 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: the texts to Shannon Roberts, this is Kislen's mother, tell 185 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: me about the texts. 186 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: She had needed not takes this for a couple of 187 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: days that actually before all that happened, and so then 188 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: when he had gotten that long, you know, it was 189 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: really yeah, that was not like so. I mean she 190 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: would try to, you know, when she was away from home, 191 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 3: kind of text us as often as could because she 192 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: knew what he would worry. 193 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 6: I mean texts both of us. One wouldn't response, would 194 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 6: text the other one whether you know she was needing 195 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 6: money or gas, money or something. There was never a 196 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 6: day I don't think that went by that she wouldn't 197 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 6: text one of us. 198 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just thinking about what you're saying. Texting 199 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: you from money. Whenever something would come up, if she 200 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: couldn't find one of you, she'd text the other. You 201 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: were virtually between the three of you in constant contact. 202 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: But then she didn't text, she didn't respond to text. 203 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: What prompted you, Eric Roberts, because I remember one time 204 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: we didn't have cell phones at the time. My parents 205 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: couldn't find me. It's about eleven o'clock at night, and 206 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: they went looking for me, and amazingly, out of the 207 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: whole bib County, my dad found me, thank goodness, broken 208 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: down on the side. 209 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Of the road. He found me. 210 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how he did it, but he did. 211 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: And I've never been so happy. It's when I saw 212 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: him pull up behind the car. So what prompted you, 213 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: Eric to go out and physically look for your daughter? 214 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Not just just report her missing, not just call her 215 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: friends and think, okay, she'll turn up. You went out 216 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: physically looking for your daughter. 217 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: What prompted you to do that? 218 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 6: I went out looking for her. I went to her 219 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: last known location where I know she was at. Her 220 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 6: car was not there. I knocked on the door. The 221 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 6: guy says, well, her car's parket's flying j So I 222 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: immediately go there. I mean, because I don't see any 223 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 6: point of her car have just parked there for any 224 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 6: reasoning for at all. 225 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 10: When Keesln Roberts misses a very important appointment, her father 226 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 10: gets a call asking if he knows where she is. 227 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 10: He had been texting with her, so he went to 228 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 10: where she was staying, but Keesln wasn't home. As he's 229 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 10: walking away Keithlyn's boyfriend says, I haven't seen her, but 230 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 10: her car is parked at the Flying J truck stop. 231 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 10: Mister Roberts immediately knows this is not normal behavior for 232 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 10: his daughter, and he heads over to the Flying J 233 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 10: truck stop, where he finds her car in the parking 234 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 10: lot locked. Mister Roberts immediately calls police his daughter is missing. 235 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 10: On January eighteenth, Gordon County Deputies responded to a nine 236 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 10: to one one call at the Flying J truck Stop 237 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 10: in Resaca concerning a suspicious female. By the time deputies arrived, 238 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 10: the suspicious female had already fled the scene. The suspicious 239 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 10: female dropped a bag in an area of the store 240 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 10: that is restricted for employees only. The bag contained a wallet, money, 241 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 10: phone charger, and an identification card for the female who 242 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 10: fled the store. Keieslyn Roberts. 243 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, somebody knows. According to those 244 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: that are searching for Keysln, scary clues left behind in 245 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: the disappearance of a gorgeous young girl just twenty years old, 246 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: vanishing from a roadside restaurant. I saw a photo Miss 247 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Roberts of Keysln, and it looks like she was a 248 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: flag girl in school. 249 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 7: Yes, she was in color guard. 250 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: What is that like where they do the formations along 251 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: with the band when they do their performances. 252 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: Isn't it true that when the marching band plays at 253 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: these big football games in that big stadium where she's pictured, 254 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: the flaggirls go out, they choreograph their own dances and 255 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: they do dances with flags, sometimes with flames that goes 256 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: along with what the band is playing. 257 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: They're the flaggirls, right, yes? 258 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: And how many hundreds or thousands of people would come 259 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: to each football game. 260 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh, tons and tons of people. 261 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, so all of these people would be watching keyslin 262 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 11: out on the football field dancing, correct, Yes, okay. 263 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Jory L. 264 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: Crassen joining US psychologists, former law enforcement now faculty Saint 265 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: Leo University, consultant with Blue Wall Institute. Doctor Jory, you know, 266 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: this is almost like looking for a nil and haystack, 267 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: because you don't have just your team, and she did 268 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: this for several years in a row. You don't just 269 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: have your team thousands of people that show up to 270 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: watch their football team, but thousands of people come to 271 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: the games from the other side. Then you've just got 272 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: observers that are not affiliated with either side. Thousands of 273 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: people see Kaslin out on the field dancing. 274 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 7: That's an ideal stalking ground. 275 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 12: We've had other cases across the country where that's been 276 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 12: the baseline where the person is observed and basically you'll 277 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 12: say targeted. So that would be a good investigative point. 278 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 12: I know there's hundreds of people there, but there's a 279 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 12: lot of clues there. 280 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 6: Also, we're leaving the car. 281 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: That's unusual. 282 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 12: My parents were saying, there's just a lot of unanswered 283 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 12: questions here that the family still has, you know, I 284 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 12: know they're looking for some kind of response as to 285 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 12: you know, what happened, how it happened, and then might 286 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 12: happened now. 287 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: This is unusual. 288 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Clues that are obtained by the way her car is 289 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: parked listen. 290 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 10: Keithlyn's father, Eric Roberts, told investigators that while he sent 291 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 10: his daughter the money she requested, he had not heard 292 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 10: back from her in four or five days. Keithlyn's boyfriend 293 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 10: said he had not seen Keithlind for a few days. 294 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 10: Mister Roberts indicated that his daughter did not normally leave 295 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 10: her vehicle the way she did, and that he thought 296 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 10: Keithlin may be in danger. 297 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: Caesa wented about fifteen minutes away from her parents, but 298 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: the way her car was parked sets off alarms in 299 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: her dad's mind. Eric, what was unusual about the way 300 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: you found her vehicle? 301 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 6: Ninety nine percent of people cannot park straight, including everybody, 302 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 6: But her car was vertically straight with the lines in 303 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: the parking lot where it's parked at it back then. 304 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 6: I've never known her to back her. 305 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: Car in nowhere. 306 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 6: Her seat was not set for her hat, and it 307 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 6: was just very odd too. 308 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: Jason Genzy joining me, private eye cold case expert at 309 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: Cold Case Coalition. Jason, you're a private investigator, but I 310 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: would argue it doesn't take a PI to know that 311 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: when people back the car in very often, if it's nefarious, 312 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: it's because they don't want you to be able to 313 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: see that tag. In this jurisdiction, vehicles don't have to 314 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: have a front tag license plate and a backtag license plate, 315 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: only a backtag license plate, So by backing in Batman style, 316 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: nobody can identify the tagplate. 317 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Right. 318 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: Also, not only that, the fact that she never did 319 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: back in that way, that is again routine evidence evidence 320 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: of her routine and I don't know if this name 321 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: is going to ring a bell to you or not. 322 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: Jason Jensen Tara Grinstead who went missing and was murdered 323 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: not far from this location. When I went to the 324 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: home with her mother, we looked in the car and 325 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: her seat, Tara's seat of her car, which she always 326 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: kept completely pristine. You know, those people in the car 327 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: still smells new. 328 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: Her car was backed up for. 329 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: Somebody that would be six one or six y two, 330 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: and she Tara always had the seat all the way 331 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: up front. She was very petite, and her car was 332 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: covered in mud. It didn't take a PI to tell 333 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: me the last person that drove that car was not 334 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: Tara Grinstead. 335 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 8: You're right, that's all the signs indicating that somebody else 336 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 8: drove her car and dumped it there. You know, it 337 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 8: was staged there and parked in such a way that 338 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 8: would delay the discovery of her car. Now for somebody 339 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 8: else to point it out to Eric that his daughter's 340 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 8: car was out, the flying Jay is unique evidence of 341 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 8: its own and it's like, how did you know? But 342 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 8: it was nice enough that it was said so that 343 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 8: Eric could go find it. And at that point in 344 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 8: my past experience, I have taken DNA samples of the 345 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 8: door handle, of the steering well and in this case 346 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 8: where the seat is set back of the controls for 347 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 8: that to see whose DNA profile would last be the 348 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 8: one using the car. And unfortunately, when law enforcement are 349 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 8: the first responders there when they released the car to 350 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 8: a family member, such evidence can be destroyed. 351 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: Where is Keaesland Roberts. Trust me, somebody knows? Joining me 352 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: an all star palent, including Keiesln's parents, begging for your 353 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: help if you know or think you know anything about 354 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: the disappearance of this young girl, Keaesln Roberts now seven 355 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: zero six six 't four fourteen twenty four or seven 356 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 2: zero six six nine five forty five ninety two. In 357 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: addition to Keysley's parents joining us right now. Connie hall Scott, 358 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: investigative reporter host North Georgia Television wd nntv's Taught with Connie. 359 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: Connie, thank you for being with us. What can you 360 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: tell me about this roadside restaurant? 361 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you that it is it's you know, 362 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: first of all, it's not well lived outside and they 363 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: do not have proper cameras outside. 364 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 7: You know, and bad things happen there. 365 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: As Eric said, it's a place where drugs and prostitution 366 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: and who knows what is going on. 367 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: What, if anything, can you tell me about a twenty 368 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: one year old that goes missing there. Caleb Smith goes 369 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: missing there just days before Kyslan is last seen. 370 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: I think that there are so many similarities. Number One, 371 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: the two both resided in Murray County. The two both 372 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: were last seen at the Flying J two days apart. 373 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 7: They go missing. 374 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 4: Caleb first, and also his car was backed in five 375 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: spaces from where Keithlin's would be backed in. Both cars 376 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: had their personal belongings inside the car, and I believe 377 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: in the dashboard money, things like that were left behind, 378 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: not a cell phone in Keislin's case, it was never found. 379 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 7: Also about Caleb, he was found in February. 380 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 4: He was naked and his clothes were never found. He 381 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 4: was found in a Marshy area, I believe, about five 382 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: miles from the Flying J. I have talked to all 383 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: law enforcement involved, and everyone said that there's no there's 384 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: no connection. Maybe there's not, but that sure is coincidentally, 385 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: isn't it? And two days apart, Well, let's get real. 386 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: Jason justin joining me. 387 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: Renowned cold case expert and deal Carson, high profile lawyer. 388 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: First he Jason a coincidence his car he goes missing 389 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: back in January. His car is found in a marshy 390 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: area which is kind of earth and kind of water, 391 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: very very difficult for dogs to track back in there, 392 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: so his body is found without clothing. Weeks after he 393 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: goes disappearing at the Flying Jay roadside restaurant, and then 394 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: shortly thereafter, Keisley goes missing same restaurant, her car parked 395 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: five spaces away from where Calubs was parked. 396 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: That's too much of a coincidence for me. 397 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 8: I agree with you on that one, Nancy. The coincidences 398 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 8: are really strange. That in such a close parameter of time, 399 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 8: two victims meeting the same fate is really uncanny. So 400 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 8: there may not be a connection between Caleb and in 401 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 8: Keysland as far as they know each other, but there 402 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 8: must be something common between there. You know the perpetrator 403 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 8: responsible for these two disappearing. 404 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, mister and missus Roberts. 405 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: Was Keesln seen alive at the Flying Jay? 406 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 8: Yes? 407 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: Yes he is inside? 408 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: Yes inside? 409 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: Is there Surville's video of her inside? 410 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 6: We've never seen them, they say, there is when it 411 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 6: first happened things went on with Mary Kenny was a 412 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 6: detective that was on her case at that time, but 413 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 6: never did get a copy of the video that people 414 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 6: say that she was seen on the camera coming inside 415 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 6: the store. Now, whether that was the time that she 416 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 6: panically left the store, we don't know. 417 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: Did you say she panicked and left. 418 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 6: When she was confronted by the manager in the area 419 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: that she that was for employees only. She you know, 420 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 6: when she was confronted, she dropped her back and left 421 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 6: out the back door. 422 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: So the only thing that she had done wrong in quotes, 423 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: she went in the employees only area. 424 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, she was hunched down what the manager says, she 425 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 6: was hunched down behind a table or some sort of equipment. 426 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I wonder why she was tounched down like she was hiding. 427 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: Yes, she was scared of running from somebody. 428 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: And was kileb who also went missing at the Flying 429 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: Jay was he spotted inside as well his camp his. 430 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 6: Camera feeds coming from the Dennis cameras, which Denny's ass 431 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 6: cameras inside the restaurant. He was captured on their cameras 432 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 6: talking to one guy in particularly back and forth for 433 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 6: a few minutes, you know, So they've got fitted to 434 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 6: that of course Bordon County kiss case and not my 435 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 6: dollar's case, so you know, red flags raised up in 436 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: that county. Me The only cameras they've got is there 437 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 6: were the feel pumps. They have none where she is 438 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 6: running out the back of the entrance where the truckers 439 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 6: come in that direction. There was no cameras in that 440 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 6: parking lot for the customer's parking lot or the trucker's 441 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 6: parking lot. No lighting at that time within the trucker 442 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 6: parking lot, so it's completely dark out there. 443 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Where is Keisan Roberts? How can this beautiful twenty year 444 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: old girl just vanish outside a roadside restaurant, the Flying Jay? 445 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: This very shortly. 446 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: After another twenty one year old goes missing there. Both 447 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: of their cars back parked batman style, so their front tags, 448 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: their tags to their car won't show very unlike both 449 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: of them and they're never seen alive again. 450 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: Where is Keislin? 451 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: There is a fifty thousand dollars reward five zero fifty 452 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars reward for information leading to the whereabouts of 453 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Keys and Roberts her family in torture Tip Line seven 454 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: zero six six two four fourteen twenty four seven zero 455 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: six six ninety five four five nine two Back to 456 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: Connie Hall Scott, investigative journalist and joining us from WD 457 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: and N. 458 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Connie. 459 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: The fact that she was hiding in the employees kitchen area. 460 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: When we hear she got into a confrontation, A lot 461 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: of people think, oh, she got in. 462 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: A fight, she shotlifted. 463 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: No, all she did was she went and she was 464 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: hunching down and hiding behind a piece of furniture in 465 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: the employee's kitchen. She didn't take anything, she didn't cause 466 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: a ruckus, She wasn't drunk, she wasn't on drugs. 467 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Nothing like that. She went and hid in the employees kitchen. 468 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? 469 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 4: Well, I think she knew she was already in danger, 470 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: whatever had happened prior to that, it wouldn't be usual 471 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 4: for her to go. And how I went there and looked, 472 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: and I actually kind of peeked in in that area, 473 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: and it would be a good place to hide. 474 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: I'm also curious about potential phone evidence. Take a listen, 475 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: Eric or Shannon Shannon, was her cell phone also in 476 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: the car? 477 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: No, that's one thing that we've not been able to find. 478 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: Well, do you know if the police have tried to 479 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: triangulate where it was last ye used? 480 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: No, why that time passed to you know? 481 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Wait? 482 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait, I don't care if try it 483 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: passed law enforcement too. 484 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 5: They don't have enough evidence to get a warrant, to 485 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: get a sign off to get it sent to her 486 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 5: sellar phone. 487 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Network company technical legal term that is b joining me. 488 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: Former fed with the FBI nine, now high profile lawyer. 489 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Out of Jacksonville, Dale Carson. 490 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 2: How can any l E law enforcement say with a 491 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: straight face, we don't have any evidence of wrongdoing? Her ID, 492 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: her debit card, her wallet, her money, all of that 493 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 2: left in the car, everything. 494 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: The only thing missing her cell phone. 495 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: You want to tell me a young girl her age 496 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: is going to leave behind her prized possession, her car 497 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: and completely cut off contact with parents that she takes 498 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: it back and forth with every day, multiple times. I 499 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: mean even when she moved out, she only moved fifteen 500 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: minutes away from home. Okay, there's wrongdoing. I don't know 501 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: what it is yet, but why not get the cell phone? 502 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Wreckers Dale Carson. 503 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 9: Well, it's certainly sufficient for an affidavit for a search warrant, 504 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 9: so I don't understand that either. And the sooner that's done, 505 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 9: the better off we are, because that will help us 506 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 9: know whether, as you say, where the last communication was. 507 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 9: If it was at the Flying Jay, then that's important. 508 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 9: If it wasn't, that's important as well. And another point, 509 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 9: you know, truck drivers, the Bureau was always concerned that 510 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 9: serial killers could be involved with driving trucks all over 511 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 9: the country, making them doubly difficult to locate and isolate. 512 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 9: And that's one of the reasons that VISCAP was established 513 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 9: to determine whether or not individuals throughout the country had 514 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 9: similar methods of operation MS when it came to homicide. 515 00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, this is an appeal to 516 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: all the truckers across our country. Please help your fellow 517 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: trucker find his daughter. Twenty year old keys and Roberts 518 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: goes missing at the Flying j roadstop, Murray County. It's 519 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: exit number three two zero, Resaca, Georgia, three twenty No 520 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: one has seen keysland since. Again, truckers across our country, 521 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: help us find the. 522 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Daughter of your fellow trucker. 523 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: The tip line seven zero six six two four fourteen 524 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: twenty four seven zero, six six nine five four five 525 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: ninety two. There is a fifty thousand dollars reward, but. 526 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: We've got one person this. 527 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: She gave her a rid one day and it was 528 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: after she went like the week after. 529 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: Do you believe her? 530 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: I hesitate because. 531 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 5: You know it's been so long. But there again she's 532 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 5: saying details about other stuff that Keison told her that. 533 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: That seems real. 534 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: Yes, was there a siding of Keeslin about a week 535 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: after she is last seen, joining me her parents along 536 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: with an all star panel. You know, we just went 537 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: through this with a missing boy, Sebastian Rogers, and there 538 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: was a sighting at a rest stop up in the 539 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: Blue Ridge Mountains, and the little boy that was spotted 540 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: at the rest stop looks so much like Sebastian Rogers. 541 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: Even his own father, his own biological father, thinks that 542 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: boy is Sebastian. Now law enforcement tells us they've tracked 543 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: down the boy's mom. It's not Sebastian. Back to Keyesln, 544 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: Roberts to her parents joining us, Eric and Shannon Roberts, Shannon, 545 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: what can you tell me about this alleged sighting about 546 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: a week after Keesln goes missing? 547 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: Well, she said that this lady had said that she 548 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: got a phone call from the guy that was with 549 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: Keieslin that she says that was with Keeslin and he 550 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: wanted a ride. So she goes over there and she 551 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: gives him a ride. They wanted to get away from 552 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: the place where they were at for a little bit, 553 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: and then she said that they didn't have anywhere to go, 554 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: and so she took them over to her mom's house 555 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: and her mom says that they could stayed there for 556 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: the night. Well, she said that this girl that she 557 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: says that you know it was Keithlin. She said that 558 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: she was talking about that she couldn't you know, she 559 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: was didn't really she couldn't go home to us, that 560 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: she knew that we was worried about her. She said 561 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: something about that she even wanted a ride to the 562 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: Flying Jay to get her car. And it was just 563 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 3: really bizarre. But and she told she said the girl 564 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: that she thought was Keithlyin, she says to her, she 565 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: said that she told her, she said, I'm not really 566 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: quite sure if I can be able to take you 567 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: to get your car, but she said, I'll just have 568 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 3: to let you know. And then of course her mom 569 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: ended up breaking This lady's mom ended up breaking her foot, 570 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: so she wasn't able to, you know, to take her, 571 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: she said, And she said she had never seen her again. 572 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: Do you believe her either, mister or missus Roberts. Do 573 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: you believe this witness actually gave Keithlin a ride? Or 574 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: is she confused about her date or confused in general? 575 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: Well? 576 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 7: I think I did believe her. 577 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: I mean, from what she said about some things and stuff, 578 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 3: it just seemed like it was Keithlin, you know, the 579 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: way she was talking. 580 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: What about it, mister Roberts, do you believe she actually 581 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: saw Keeeslin after? 582 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 6: I mean, there's another girl out there that's you know, 583 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 6: it's a little bit shorter, a little bit heavier, but 584 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 6: resembles you know, her that the law is familiar with. 585 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 6: So was this person that picked her up, you know, 586 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 6: under the influence and thought it was her or. 587 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: Even just wrong about the date? 588 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 9: Yeah? 589 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: Is it true mister and missus Roberts that you have 590 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: not been able to get answers recently from the GBI. 591 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: What can you tell me? 592 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 6: They're very they want to get aggressive to this case. 593 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 6: They understand where we're coming from. Uh, and we've been 594 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 6: in contact with them several times. Both of them had 595 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 6: met me several times since both of them have stick 596 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 6: over the case. So I think something might be turning 597 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 6: around with the new GBI and Mry Kenn. 598 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: Connie Hall Scott. Where does the taste stand now? 599 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 7: That's really hard to say. 600 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 4: I personally feel a lot of passing the buck has 601 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: went on with law enforcement, especially in the past. Is 602 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 4: it Murray County, is it Gordon County? Now it's mostly 603 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 4: GBI with Murray County assisting. I do not feel like 604 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 4: it has been taken as seriously as it should have been. 605 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 4: I don't think that I feel like they dropped the 606 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 4: ball by not checking the car out, by not tracing 607 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: her cell phone, and also by not reaching out or 608 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 4: responding to the parents as quickly as they should. I 609 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: think that there's three possibilities. Either she walked away from 610 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 4: her life, never contacting anyone she knows, including her family 611 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: who she was close to, and also depended on for funds, 612 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: which is kind of shocking that no crime seems to 613 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 4: have been committed. Number two, there was foul play by 614 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 4: someone she does know. Or three maybe stranger abduction. And 615 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 4: I think it's really important that everybody works together to 616 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 4: find out where she is and what happened. And as 617 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 4: you said, somebody knows where she is and what happened 618 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 4: to Eric. 619 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: And Shannon Roberts Keiselen's parents. What is your message today. 620 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: Oh, we just want the truth. We want answers. We 621 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 3: hear a lot of dreamers and stuff, and then it 622 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: changes from one moment to the next between people and 623 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: places and scenarios, and it's just gotten so overwhelming. I mean, 624 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: we just we want the real truths and we want 625 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: to be able to find our keyslind to bring her home. 626 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm holding on for a miracle no 627 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: matter all the things we hear. 628 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: It's Roberts, what has your life been like since your 629 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: daughter disappeared? 630 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: Gosh, just a total night mayor I mean home and 631 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 3: not knowing where she's at, if she's okay, if she's hurting, 632 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 3: if it's just indescribable. We spent every week and moment 633 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 3: trying to find her, to do everything that we can 634 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: to just a piece, any pieces together, to find anything 635 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: that could put us on the right track. 636 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: Let me remind everyone there is a fifty thousand dollar 637 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 2: reward for information related to the location of this girl, 638 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: Kislyn Roberts tip line seven O six six twenty four 639 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: fourteen twenty four seven O six six nine five forty 640 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: five ninety two. 641 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: We stopped and we remember. 642 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: American Hero Captain Miguel Nova, Pine Valley, California. Just twenty 643 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 2: eight Captain Nova passed away with four other Marines and 644 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 2: a helicopter. This past February awarded Global War on Terrorism 645 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Sea Service Deployment Ribbon. 646 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: Survived by a grieving wife Ryan and a five month 647 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 2: old son, Luca, and parents Javier and Lisa. American Hero 648 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 2: Miguel Nava. Thank you to our guests and everyone joining 649 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 2: together tonight to find keyesland. Nancy Gray signing off, good 650 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: night friend,