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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith Steak is that woo woom? And then and Tye,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the solid arble points and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty hilden Brand. That fine gentleman over there

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Speaker 1: to my left as you are watching at home, Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the podcast. My friend how goes it?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good, Ty, Even though it is, you know, wintertime,

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Speaker 2: even though it is the off season, there's always stuff

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Speaker 2: to talk about. And I'm always thinking about ways, right

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Speaker 2: we can juice up the solid verbal right in the

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Speaker 2: off season that the cold months. And I guess talking

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Speaker 2: about a five plus seven playoff system is our best

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Speaker 2: bet right now.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, is there anything we can leak? Tye?

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Speaker 2: I always feel like that's the move to leak something?

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Speaker 2: Can we leak something? Do you have anything to leak?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to figure out, Ty, Come on,

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Speaker 2: what do you have? I mean you have they're like

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Speaker 2: solid verbal tapes that like we have somebody like off

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Speaker 2: record saying something crazy.

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Speaker 1: We need a leak right now? I do you have it?

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Speaker 1: I do have an old conversation that we decided not

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Speaker 1: to run. Okay that I but there's nothing scandalous on it.

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't a good interview. Who is it with I?

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that was it with Hunter Biden?

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at like the Twitter and X. You

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Speaker 2: know what happens. Sometimes I don't get the engagement, but no,

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Speaker 2: I would get the engagement. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden either way. But I sometimes look at the

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Speaker 2: side of X or Twitter, whatever you call it, and

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Speaker 2: I'll see a name and be like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: so like, oh man, there are leak tapes of this

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Speaker 2: know what this person is, but like four hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty thousand tweets about it exist. So TYE really think

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Speaker 2: on what we can leak from a college football or

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Speaker 2: just a personal perspective that can juice up the solid

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Speaker 1: Well if I could, Yeah, you gave me a bit

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Speaker 1: of an opening once to do that, I did kind

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Speaker 1: of leak to our patreon verballer hood. I put together

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Speaker 1: like a fifteen minute video showing how I edit a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh tie, not like this? Does that count? No?

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Speaker 2: No, it's great content, it really is. If you want

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Speaker 2: the secret sauce of Tis, It's not a secret.

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Speaker 1: Sauce, I'm not. I'm not so dumb as to give

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Speaker 1: away the secret sauce. But I gave away, God, at

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Speaker 1: least a little bit of the game on how we

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool, that's a start. But we need to

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Speaker 2: get we need to get fiery with this leak.

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Speaker 1: Verballers dot com of course, is the Patreon v E

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Speaker 1: bonus episodes, ad free content, discord access, so on and

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Speaker 1: so forth. If we have any coaching rumors, maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: and we can talk about some other things this offseason.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard about the five and seven model. No,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about Florida football.

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, we had some news The College Football Playoff

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Speaker 1: It also gives me reason to play this.

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Speaker 2: December eighteenth, will be the early signing day, so two

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Speaker 2: a number of those teams that are going to be

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Speaker 2: They'll probably have already have secured their class mostly, but

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Speaker 1: That's going to be wild. That's going to be wild.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you think about how teams like Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: of the calendar. And we've talked about the calendar before.

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Speaker 1: There's not really a good way for college football to

434
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Speaker 1: handle this transfer window. It's been a bit of a debacle,

435
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Speaker 1: and we're both pro transfer portal, but the calendar does

436
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Speaker 1: make for more Malik Murphy type situations where his team

437
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: is playing in a playoff and if he wants to

438
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Speaker 1: transfer because he sees the riding on the wall, he

439
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: knows he's not going to get playing time at Texas.

440
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: If he wants to transfer, he has to do so

441
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Speaker 1: wild his team is in the playoff. I don't know

442
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Speaker 1: if there are some contingencies that can be built in

443
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Speaker 1: that can accommodate situations like that, but Milak Murphy had

444
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: no choice but to enter the portal and not play

445
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Speaker 1: in that playoff game when Texas you know, had their

446
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: matchup earlier this year. It sucks. That makes it really

447
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: really difficult, provided they can't figure out some other means to,

448
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, accommodate folks who are in the playoff. You're

449
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Speaker 1: going to have some odd circumstances. And I wonder, from

450
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Speaker 1: an nil standpoint, is there anything that can be done

451
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Speaker 1: to incentivize these players to play in these playoff games.

452
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Speaker 2: It's a calendar thing. For Malik Murphy. I don't think

453
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Speaker 2: you if you write Malik Murphy a check for one

454
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Speaker 2: point two million dollars, is he playing in that game

455
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Speaker 2: knowing he's leaving.

456
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Speaker 1: For Probably not.

457
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Speaker 2: He's like, it's a great gesture, it's a great moral gesture,

458
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Speaker 2: but like, what does it actually mean if he's thinking

459
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Speaker 2: more long term than just two weeks away?

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it. It makes it next to impossible

461
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Speaker 1: to figure out the calendar. I think when when when

462
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Speaker 1: combined with.

463
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Speaker 2: This, you'd have to figure out some sort of enrollment exemption,

464
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Speaker 2: and then you just get into dealing with admissions at

465
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: different schools. Like I think it can be done, I

466
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: think it becomes tricky and you kind of have to

467
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: like argue for what purpose, especially if it's a backup player.

468
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: It's not even like a starter, and quarterback is a

469
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: special position. Obviously it's a little bit different, and that

470
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Speaker 2: only one guy can be on the field the at

471
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Speaker 2: a time. But no, it makes it. There's going to

472
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Speaker 2: be that gap between like December fourth and December twentieth

473
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Speaker 2: is going to be a very newsy gap as it continued,

474
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Speaker 2: I mean, it'll continue to be a very Newsy gap.

475
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I look at this first round, like, how

476
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Speaker 2: could we possibly know who's better between Georgia and ole Miss?

477
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Speaker 2: How could we possibly is Georgia still thirty five points

478
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: better than ole Miss? I guess we'll have to find out.

479
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: And even like looking at the Oregon Washington thing, like man,

480
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 2: Oregon had two cracks at a playoff team lost them both, Like, okay,

481
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Speaker 2: Penn State Ohio State, How could we know who's better

482
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Speaker 2: than Penn State? Between Penn State and Ohio State? How

483
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: can we possibly figure that out without this.

484
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Speaker 1: Twelve team playoff?

485
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know, missoo Oregon seems fun to me though,

486
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: So let's talk about.

487
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Speaker 1: The Notre Dame circumstance because I saw this making the

488
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Speaker 1: rounds on social media as well. There appear to be

489
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Speaker 1: some folks who responded initially to Notre Dame's place in

490
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Speaker 1: all of this by saying, Wow, this is not advantageous

491
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Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. This is quote brutal, and then after

492
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Speaker 1: getting some replies, in effect debating against themselves because it

493
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Speaker 1: is not brutal. It is not any more brutal for

494
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame than it is anybody else. And frankly, the

495
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Speaker 1: more you think about it, the more amazed you should

496
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Speaker 1: feel that everyone else went along with this. For Notre Dame,

497
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Speaker 1: I think it benefits Notre Dame more than any other team.

498
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame does not have to play a game during

499
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Speaker 1: conference championship week because they're not in a conference. They

500
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Speaker 1: get that extra week off. Functionally, that is their bye week.

501
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: They did get that chance though, right about four years ago.

502
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

503
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Speaker 2: That's playing a conference championship game. I imagine it went well continue.

504
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: But functionally speaking, how dare you? Functionally speaking? Their bye

505
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: week just happens a little bit earlier. Likely for Notre

506
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Dame if they finish in the top eight, they are

507
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: also going to get a first round playoff game. It's

508
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Speaker 1: out ben Yeah, and they also get a decent shot

509
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: at playing whoever that group of five or non power

510
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: conference team qualifier is if they finish in the top

511
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: five as well. See Notre Dame can't finish in the

512
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Speaker 1: top four by virtue of these new rules. The way

513
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Speaker 1: that it's set up, the top four teams that get

514
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Speaker 1: an automatic buy are conference champions. The top four ranked

515
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Speaker 1: conference champions. Notre Dame will never fall into that category.

516
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Speaker 1: So if Notre Dame ends up being the number one

517
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: team in college football at the end of you know,

518
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Speaker 1: conference championship week December, the fifth we wake up, Notre

519
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: Dame is the number one team, they would still be

520
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: the number five seed. Notre Dame is actually set up

521
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: really really well.

522
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Speaker 2: If they had to buy that opening week, that's five

523
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Speaker 2: full weeks. They played their final game against Stanford this

524
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: year on November twenty fifth, that's right, So you're talking

525
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: about thirty six or so day it's with a playoff

526
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: by that's insane.

527
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of folks who again responded to this,

528
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Speaker 1: I think, without fully thinking it through. Yeah, do not

529
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Speaker 1: dunk on Notre Dame. For the way that this thing

530
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: is set up. This benefits them handsomely, Notre Dame handsomely.

531
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Speaker 1: Now what happens when they get into the playoff? What

532
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: happens when they play some of these teams? That remains

533
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Speaker 1: I think the open question for not just Notre Dame

534
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: as a whole, but Marcus Freeman and the whole lot there.

535
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: But do not shed a teer for Notre Dame. They

536
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: make out handsomely with this arrangement. I've said for a

537
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: long time the thing that will eventually force Notre Dame

538
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: into a conference is not the playoff. It's money. It's money.

539
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: It's if things go off the rails with Florida State

540
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: and the ACC and suddenly the ACC becomes insolvent. If

541
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Speaker 1: we have further conference realignment, then we will see Notre

542
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Dame be forced to a decision. But for the time being,

543
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: this setup is pretty damn beneficial and I support it.

544
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: I wore my Notre Dame shirt here. I'm all about it.

545
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: I just can't believe everybody else agreed to it. It

546
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: seems like it really puts it should they finish in

547
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: the top eight, it puts Notre Dame in a really,

548
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: really good spot.

549
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out if I'm a top team,

550
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: do I actually want a buy? And I know that

551
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: sounds counterintuitive, but when you talk about the amount of

552
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: time off that there's something about, like, if you're a coach,

553
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: to take between like December third and December thirty first,

554
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: what four weeks? Four weeks of herding cats, right, making

555
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: sure everybody shows up on time, and making sure everybody

556
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: passes their finals, making sure you know everybody attends, you

557
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: know their their workout stuff and film sessions, and on

558
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: a certain level, like I feel like you're just getting antsy.

559
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: You're getting so antsy, and to go four weeks without

560
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: playing on a certain level, guys are going to heal up, right, Guys,

561
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: Guys who have missed a bunch of time, you know,

562
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: tour something in week four and they're not sure if

563
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to make the there are

564
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: three four extra weeks of rehab.

565
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: That's a great advantage, right.

566
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: It's really good for depth, it's really good for health,

567
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: it's really good for.

568
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: Everything except playing right.

569
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: Well.

570
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: You want to be in a rhythm, you want to

571
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: have your schedule. There is something that I think is

572
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: advantageous about being more locked in because you've played a game.

573
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Speaker 1: If you are a listener out there, I'd be curious

574
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: to know. Hypothetically speaking, let's take the case of Alabama.

575
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: This year, Alabama gun in as a four seed, right,

576
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: would you rather be Alabama with conference championship in a

577
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: bye week get to play that game on a neutral site,

578
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: or would you rather be Florida State? Would you rather

579
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: be Florida State, also conference champion, but it's a home

580
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: game against a liberty in round one winner? In this case, again,

581
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: if we're looking at this past season as a go by,

582
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: the winner would move on to play Alabama, Right, But

583
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: would you rather have that first round by or that

584
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: first round game at home against the team you know

585
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: you're better than? The same is true for a team

586
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: like Georgia, right, However, could we know if george is

587
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: better than Old Miss? Well, we had a pretty good

588
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: idea of that earlier in the year in a hypothetical

589
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: playoff game Georgia's home against Old Miss. I don't think

590
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: there's any doubt about it. Georgia wins that game. Would

591
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: you rather have that home game against Old Miss? Or

592
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: would you rather be Texas and have the bye week

593
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: and play the winner of that Georgia Old Miss game.

594
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: If I'm Alabama flor Florida State, I'm definitely choosing Alabama

595
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: because you're either getting a Jordan Travis Liss Florida State

596
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: team as your first matchup or Liberty as your first matchup, So.

597
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: You take the buye.

598
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: You do everything you can, especially when you're Nick Saban

599
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: and you have a certain amount of clout to convince

600
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: everybody that is going to enter the portal to enter

601
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: it the I don't know the day after last year,

602
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: what dated the portal window close. It's like January twod

603
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: somewhere in there, so you got to sort of convince

604
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 2: people to stick around for another an extra week.

605
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna work.

606
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's some players who are gonna

607
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: say I'm entering the portal but also playing in this game. Yeah,

608
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: I'd rather be Alabama. I'd rather be If you're saying

609
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: if I I'd rather be Georgia or Texas or Georgia

610
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: ol Miss or Texas in this scenario, I think I'd

611
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: rather be Georgia. I think you lose that SEC championship game,

612
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: you're sort of champing at the bit to get back

613
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: on the fields and prove yourself, get back into a rhythm.

614
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: Presumably Georgia is gonna sign the best class in the country,

615
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: one of the best three classes in the country, so

616
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of momentum around the program.

617
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather be Georgia. There you get the

618
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: home game and in probably not bad weather against Ole

619
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Speaker 2: Miss in Athens. It's not gonna be great, but it's

620
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: not going to be going on the road to somewhere

621
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Northwest or the Midwest where it's gonna

622
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: be freezing, and you sort of are able to diagnose

623
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: things in a way that you can't necessarily do if

624
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: you are Texas. So to get a home game in

625
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: an advantageous place where against a team you know you

626
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: can beat up on, and then get a neutral site

627
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: game against you know I would imagine Georgia would be

628
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: favored against Texas right if they were to play, and

629
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Speaker 2: in this moment, even though Texas is the higher ranked team,

630
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: it would be hard to imagine a world in which

631
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: george is not giving four and a half points or

632
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: something in that game. So I think I'd rather be Georgia,

633
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: not just because I'm better, but because you sort of

634
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: have a better sense of where you are as a

635
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: program in that time.

636
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, the portal will make things interesting because you're gonna

637
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: need depth to make it the full four rounds of

638
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: this thing, right, But even regardless of the portal, you're

639
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna need depth. You're gonna need depth regardless of the portal.

640
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: But I think adding all these extra games now definitely

641
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: makes roster depth, roster construction paramount, recruiting your own players paramount.

642
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: Should a non Power five team get a little bit

643
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: deeper into this thing, we start to see some interesting

644
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: things play out. I think with respect to depth charts,

645
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: transfer portals and whatnot.

646
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: Every single G five program is at risk for losing

647
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: key players in the portal window. And so, yes, it's

648
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: great that you made the playoff. Yes, you know, you

649
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: win your conference. You are the loan representative of G

650
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: five football whatever in the college football playoffs. But who's

651
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: to say your depth is not going to be severely

652
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: thinned out, you know in that window, as guys are weighing,

653
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: like I can go be the starting right tackle for USC,

654
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: I can go be the starting you know, strong safety

655
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: for Wisconsin, or do I want to start in a

656
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: playoff game? Against Georgia, Like, it's the timing of it's

657
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: going to be so odd, and it really puts a

658
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: lot of players and even coaches in super tough spots.

659
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Speaker 1: This is going to be wild, man, It is going

660
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: to be wild. As for how it affects us, yeah,

661
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: more importantly the most important thing. I mean, you take

662
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: a vacation in December. Going to have to figure taking

663
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: a vacation with podcasting equipment. Yeah, going to have to

664
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: figure out exactly how that works. Yeah. You know a

665
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: lot of folks have always asked us, are you gonna

666
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing live shows? Canna be doing anything

667
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: in January? Given where the national championships have been over

668
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: the years, We're gonna have to reassess that as well.

669
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a couple different Bowl games. I guess

670
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: that we could consider attending, consider doing events around this

671
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 1: coming season in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, Right, all.

672
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Looking at the locations. So we've got at and T

673
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: Arlington National Championship in Atlanta. All right, I can sleep

674
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: on my cousin Zax couch. I don't know where you're

675
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: You got a fend for yourself. Yeah, we got Miami,

676
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: We got New Orleans, got Rose Bull jan one.

677
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. The decent locations. I mean, these these are all

678
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: fine locations.

679
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: Oh, Atlanta is doing two games, so they got the

680
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Peach Bowl and the National Championship this year. But they

681
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: can handle that, that's no problem. You got Arizona December

682
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: thirty first, and then we've got the campus sites and

683
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: even more Northwestern and Ryan Field. And Northwestern is hosting

684
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: that first rounder. Yeah, they're gonna have to host it

685
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: at Seat Geeks Stadium on the south side.

686
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: A little soccer action.

687
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Wrigly Field late December. Who's not in I've

688
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: got pizza recommendations.

689
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

690
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: I see to me that the clear appeal of this

691
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: situation is the campus stadiums. The campus it's gonna be huge.

692
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: The weather's gonna be terrible. It's not ideal to attend

693
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: some of these games from weather perspective. We'll see, you know,

694
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: to be in Columbus, to be in Eugene, whatever in

695
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: late December, if those are teams that end up there.

696
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: But the energy in that first round, because it's still

697
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: a little bit before Christmas, so I think you're gonna

698
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: be able to get enough people in those stadiums to

699
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: fill them and get a frenzied atmosphere, a little bit concerned,

700
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: happy to be proven wrong about those semi final matchups,

701
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Like you understand why somebody would go to the Rose

702
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: Bowl or the Sugar Bowl, like to.

703
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Sell me on Miami or New Orleans or what that

704
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: could be? The drop off? Right? Is that the drop off?

705
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: That's what That's why I said it before, where it's like, yeah,

706
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: it's no problem. I have this time off from work,

707
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: my kids have time off from school. It's winter break.

708
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to New Orleans and watch the Sugar Bowl.

709
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: Let's go to you know, let's have a great time

710
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: watching our team. And you go to a great town.

711
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: Not that Miami's not great whatever, but you're like, Okay,

712
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm back from winter break, my kids are in school

713
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm just gonna fly on a on Wednesday,

714
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: January seventh or something to go to a Thursday night game.

715
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: Nobody connected to this, we'll talk about this sort of thing.

716
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: They won't, but it's it's very real. It's very real,

717
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: and that's not me rooting for it again. We celebrate

718
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: all that is this wonderful sport. Yeah, scaffolding on top

719
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: of scaffolding what have you. But there will be a

720
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: moment in this playoff where where we see that sort

721
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: of interest Wayne, or we see it change. It is

722
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: tough to get to all these games. I mean, you're frankly,

723
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of any of these teams in

724
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: the playoff, unless you're willing to roll out you know,

725
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: a pretty good chunk of change. You're not going to

726
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: go to all these games when.

727
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be strategic about it, right, You're like,

728
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: I have to roll the dice that I think my

729
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: team can win this quarter final matchup because I'd much

730
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: rather go to a semi closer to me in Texas,

731
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: closer to me in Pasadena, closer to me in Miami, whatever.

732
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: And you're like, I I think I'm gonna hold off

733
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: because going to the semi site is easier. According going

734
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: to the quarter site is easier for me than you know,

735
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: driving seven hours or flying three hours to go back

736
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Speaker 2: to campus or something like that. So there's gonna be

737
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: a lot of sort of travel calculus involved with fans.

738
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: Hope it works out for everybody. I want nothing but

739
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: full stadiums, loud stadiums, energetic stadiums, but you know it's

740
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: it's I think it's more fraught with complications.

741
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad they finally pulled it off to be

742
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: in mess with you, and I get that the logistics

743
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: of it are weird and and certainly the calendar is

744
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: not doing anyone any favors. I'm just glad that we've

745
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: got more teams in this thing. I always thought four

746
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: was stupid. Some have argued that six would have been

747
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: the perfect number, that eight would have been the perfect number,

748
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: that sixteen is the perfect number. We got twelve. So

749
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: at this point that is all water under the bridge.

750
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: We are where we're at. And the fact that they've

751
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: now approved the five and seven model, the fact, now

752
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: that we've actually got structure around this thing, we know

753
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: where and when games will be played to some degree,

754
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: it's starting to feel very very real. The twenty twenty

755
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: four season is going to be bunkers. This is going

756
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: to be the biggest year ever in the history of

757
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: college football. It's not just because of the conference realignment.

758
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: It's not just because of the playoff realignment. It is

759
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: certainly because of continued motion on the transfer portal side

760
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: of things INIL how that has impacted the game, the

761
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: college freaking football video game that is coming out at

762
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: some point, hopefully this Yeah, there's just a lot that

763
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: has been percolating for a while to make twenty twenty

764
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: four to one of the bigger seasons ever. And you

765
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: may not like all of these changes. Frankly, for a

766
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: lot of people who listen to us, it might be

767
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: a bit too much. I understand where those folks are

768
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: coming to listen.

769
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Speaker 2: Tip, you cannot expand a mall too much, right, everybody

770
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: knows that malls will last forever. There will always be

771
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: lines outside of Wilson's leather. That's how the world works.

772
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: That people kind of like malls. So let's build a

773
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: thousand malls every few acres and everybody gets a foot locker.

774
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Kids get a footlocker, Ladies get a foot locker. We

775
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: get a regular foot locker. You got your like special

776
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Nike Air Jordan foot Like. There's no way this expansion

777
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: will lead to anything but unlimited prosperity.

778
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: Tie you know that, And I know that Solid Verbal

779
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com is as always our email address, right,

780
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: and let us know your thoughts on the five plus

781
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: seven model. The twelve team playoff which is slowly becoming

782
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: a real thing in our college football universe.

783
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Did you see by the way that both I think

784
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: reportedly the SEC and the Big Ten are like, we

785
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: want multiple guaranteed spots, guys, because we hold all the chips.

786
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: We hold all the cart is a topic for a

787
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: different discussion. They were pushing for it, Man two three

788
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: four automatic, Big ten SEC school. Where where this goes next?

789
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: Where this goes next? And this is certainly a topic

790
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: for a different episode. The haves versus the have nots.

791
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: The SEC, the Big Ten hold all the chips and

792
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: they know it. They know they can negotiate from a

793
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: position of strength now. And if you paid any attention

794
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: to some of the reporting that came out on this

795
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Florida State acc situation towards the end of last week,

796
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: seems to be something of an indication among these legal

797
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: filings that there could be a negotiated buyout to get

798
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: out of this acc grant of right steal. If you're

799
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Florida State right you could pay an exorbitant sum of money.

800
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: It's been estimated into the hundreds of millions of dollars.

801
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: But it's possible, per some of these filings that there

802
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: could be a negotiated settlement that would get them out sooner.

803
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: And so if that is the case, Dan, Yeah, and

804
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: if we are staring down the barrel of what would

805
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: seemingly be another round of pretty significant conference realignment, all

806
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: bets are off. All bets are off with this playoff

807
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: system the way it's structured now that we just talked

808
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: about for the last forty minutes. All bets are off.

809
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: With conference structure the way we've come to know them

810
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: now over the last six to eight months, all bets

811
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: are off. I think with college football as a whole

812
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: and how it fits into the academic model, how it

813
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: fits into the NCAA, does it break off and become

814
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: its own thing? I think Florida State whole. It's the

815
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: key to the next round of whatever this becomes. And

816
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: if in fact, there is any kind of negotiation that

817
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: could take place, and if they get private funding or

818
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: regular funding or pass around the hat, sure to take

819
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: care of whatever it's going to cost to get out

820
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: of the ACC. I think that is when college football

821
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: goes nuclear, and that is when things really start to

822
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: go haywire. We are not there yet. Conversations with unequal

823
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: sharing of revenue among the two biggest and most prosperous conferences,

824
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 1: kind of the tip of the iceberg Florida State, maybe

825
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: negotiating away out of the grant of rights, maybe the

826
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: tip of a different iceberg. At some point, all these

827
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: things are going to converge and it's going to be

828
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: part of like an eight hour podcast series that we

829
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: have to do talking about the future of college football.

830
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: We're not there yet, but it's coming. It's coming soon.

831
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: So the only exception I'll take with what you just said,

832
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: when you sort of led that off with the Big

833
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: ten of the SEC hold all the chips, I don't

834
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: think that's true. I think ESPN and Fox hold all

835
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: of the chips by proxy. By proxy, sure, it's those

836
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: are who's that's those are the check writers. So what

837
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: ESPN wants, what Fox wants with its control of the

838
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Big Ten pretty locked in. That's going to make a difference.

839
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: And so I guess if you're really interested to see

840
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: where college football goes in the future of college football,

841
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: pay attention to the cable industry, pay attention to rights fees,

842
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: pay attention to ESPN potentially breaking off from Disney. Pay

843
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: attention all of those things. Because I mean, ESPN obviously

844
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: knows that rights fees are you know what, what butters

845
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: their bread, But really those are those two entities are

846
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: who control this turf. I imagine it's going to get ugly.

847
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: I imagine there's a lot behind the scenes right now

848
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: that we don't know about that is going to be

849
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: incredibly meaningful over the course of the next decade. And

850
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: a lot of that will have to do with TV ratings,

851
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: with what if twelve is explosively successful, then we'll see more.

852
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: If it's not, we'll see consolidation and be like, well,

853
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: why would we have liberty in a playoff? Why would

854
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: we have you know, this school that's not contributing much

855
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: in terms of eyeballs involved in this golden goose? So

856
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: that I think ultimately is what decides the future of

857
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: this sport.

858
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: Money, because it's a money comes to money and we

859
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: try not to be too cynical about it here because

860
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: again we celebrate all the time. I mean, that's living

861
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: in reality though, but this is yeah, this is being

862
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: a realist and money is driving this. It's driven it

863
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Speaker 1: from the start. I am glad that we got a

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Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. I would encourage people to write in

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Speaker 1: let us know their thoughts on now that we see it,

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Speaker 1: how it feels to them, how they'll react to it.

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Speaker 1: Would they be willing to go to one or more games, like,

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Speaker 1: just lay it out for us. Wherever you can post

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Speaker 1: a comment, be it social media, email, Spotify lets you

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Speaker 1: post comments YouTube, if you're watching out there, want to

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Speaker 1: hear from the verballer hood truly and get your take

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Speaker 1: on this because it is different. It is going to span.

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Speaker 1: As we said earlier, I said forty days, it felt

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Speaker 1: like forty days. It's more like thirty. It's just going

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Speaker 1: to be a different schedule towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: And I suspect there are a number of opinions out

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Speaker 1: there from our listener base that need to be heard.

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Speaker 1: So maybe what we'll do dan next week, Yeah, May

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Speaker 1: we'll do a gigantic two part Q and A will

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Speaker 1: incorporate some of the commentary from the verballer Hood that

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Speaker 1: we get as a result of this episode into those

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Speaker 1: episodes next week, in addition to other verboller questions that

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Speaker 1: come in via traditional channels, Can.

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Speaker 2: I ask you a question questioning your manliness, questioning strength,

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Speaker 2: your inner strength, whatever however you want to describe it, okay,

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Speaker 2: as it relates to our topic. Oh, would Penn State

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Speaker 2: hosting Notre Dame in the opening round of the playoff?

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Speaker 2: Would there be a temperature for you, as an equally

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Speaker 2: old and soft man as myself, would there be a

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Speaker 2: temperature cut off where you'd be like, I.

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Speaker 1: Am just not going to make the drive to State

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Speaker 1: College to watch this game.

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Speaker 2: Like if if we're isolated, right, it's a Friday night game,

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Speaker 2: so you were not doing a show right after that game,

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Speaker 2: you can drive back or whatever and watch the rest

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Speaker 2: of the games.

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Speaker 1: It was like sixty degrees this year cut off. If

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Speaker 1: it's going to be low twenties, I'm out. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't make the drive twenties, I'm out. There's no reason

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Speaker 1: not to just sit at home and watch on.

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Speaker 2: But that would be exciting for you. If it were

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Speaker 2: like forty eight and clear, you'd make the drive three hours.

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Speaker 1: Any of these stadiums are going to be electric. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with a game like this on the line, I'd even

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Speaker 1: be hesitant to go to a Notre Dame Penn State

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Speaker 1: game because my rooting interests would be so splintered. It

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Speaker 1: would be a difficult watch for me.

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Speaker 2: I think the single best outcome campus wise, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in terms of campus advantage, realistic outcome is Wisconsin hosting

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Speaker 2: a first round because the combination of weather and known atmosphere,

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Speaker 2: weather term and life term that it would be an

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Speaker 1: I think that's your biggest Round one competitive advantage. Let

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Speaker 1: us know your thoughts for Ballerhood, we want to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Gotta leak some stuff, though, Todd. We got to find

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Speaker 2: the solid verbal tapes, all right, right, I'll see what

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Speaker 2: I can do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what I've gotten pository here,

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Speaker 1: but if there's anything to leak, I will. We could

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Speaker 1: just start making stuff up that works too, That's true.

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Speaker 1: That'd be good for that guy over there, my good

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Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hill, the brand. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for downloading, listening, supporting. We'll talk y'all soon. Stay soft Peace,