1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a herd indeed with me Rob Parker 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 3: and from All Pro Safety Carry Road. When we played 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: for the Jets and the Cardiffs. The Jets were actually 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: good when carry Roads, Yes we will. Did you go 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: to an anti championship game two years in a row? 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 4: Right? 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: Well, I went one and I got trad at Arizona. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 6: Then I would stayed with the jests that we would 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 6: have want a Super Bowl though, just to make it 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 6: even more sick. 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 5: Right now, there you go. 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: But I remember, giggle little gig, Yes, Jets actually good. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 5: I grew up in New York and you're just growing up. 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 5: I was. Don't say just growing up. You're done. No, 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 5: I'm done. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: I haven't been a fan for like forty years of teams. 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: I'm just not you know, I'm a reporter right right 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: right now, I'm not would you stop Jeff fan under 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: underneath it all. 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 5: No, I'm not a fan at all. 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 7: No, But you know, if the Yankees on Rocky, let's 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 7: get that on TV one, two and three, just in case. 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 7: I just want to want and then and then if 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 7: Aaron Judges up turned down the monitors, I don't need 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 7: to hear Kelvin. Let's get the sound. I want to 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 7: hear them call the play by player. 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 6: He's trying to hard, he's trying to hide his partial 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 6: partiality exactly. 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 7: And then you know, Lamar was his guy. We're getting 37 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 7: to Mark Jackson in a few minutes. Lamar was his 38 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 7: guy forever, I know. But when Aaron Rodgers is there, Oh, 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 7: of the Aaron Rodgers got some beautiful balls, right Rob. 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 6: That's that's where it's from. Yeah, I can't believe. Is 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 6: that what it is? 42 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 5: Ain't it? It's not. 43 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: I just don't feel good about them. But anyway, it 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: is a herd. Happy New Year's Day. Great to be 45 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: with you, that's right. 46 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 5: And UH. 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: To get more of us, all you need to do 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: is check out the new Odd Couple YouTube channel. Just 49 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: search Odd Couple fs R on YouTube. Again, that's an 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Odd Couple FSR. Be sure to hit us up, hit 51 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: that subscribe button. Don't stop there also with the thumbs 52 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: up icon and comment away. Just search Odd Couple fs R. 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: Don't forget. Coming up later on in this hour, we're 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: gonna talk with Spencer Tillman. Of course Fox Sports Radio 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: college football analysts will talk with him. And I know 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: people are like, well, Rob, you're you're feeling it on 57 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: the herd, but what about the Odd Couple tonight? Who's 58 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: doing that show? I'm doing that show me and Martin Wise. 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: Kelvin's off, but we will have the Odd Couple seven 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: pm Eastern, four pm Pacific. 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: So be there. Yes, I'm double dipping on the holiday. 62 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 6: Then the first day of the year when people are 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 6: putting out there, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna be 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: more balanced in my life. I'm not gonna do all 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: these things. I'm gonna pay attention to my health and myself. 66 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 6: You're just like, I'm going. 67 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: All in that. That's whoy I carry you. You know 68 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: me for a few years, I'm a worker and I 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: enjoy what I do. And you know, when I take 70 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: off and spend time if I'm not if I'm not 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: doing anything with the family and I mean my extended family, 72 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna work. If I have family or I gotta, 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: you know, gonna go visit or do something, then I 74 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: take off. But if I'm gonna lay on the couch 75 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: on New Year's Day, I might as well do the way. 76 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 5: I admire you for that. 77 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 6: I've kind of looked at you from Afar and even 78 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: getting to know you these past couple of years, and 79 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 6: you know me, I'm if I can come in and 80 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: be here as well, I'm gonna. 81 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: I just can't. 82 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: Done. 83 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'll tell you what. After we get done here, 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: I'm going back to my bed. 85 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: You and Rob G because of course Rob g ain't 86 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: doing double dip and Rob G hell no, I know 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: Rob done Like He's like, okay, nice, Sorry we did 88 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: to hurt. I'm driving back home. We'll see you on Fridays. Today, Thursday, 89 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: how Wonday? 90 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: Will you at least listen to the show? Are you kidding? 91 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: Now? 92 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: He can't stand the show? What he's doing? Nah? All right? 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: Rob? 94 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 5: Do you gotta update on this Oregon Texas? 95 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, big game in the Orange Bowl College Football playoff 96 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 7: quarter finals. We've been talking about it throughout the show. 97 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 7: Very tight game, six to nothing. Even though Oregon has 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 7: dominated in every major category. 99 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: This is an upstated as far as like domination, you 100 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: could lose this. 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 7: They had a third and two at the thirty three 102 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 7: yard line or so they call a deep shot incomplete 103 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 7: a right field goal. Right, they bypassed the field goal 104 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 7: once again. They go forward on fourth down. Dante Moore scrambles, 105 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 7: gets tackled, short ball back to So. 106 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 5: That's two field goals. 107 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 7: That's doing twelve points six nothing. Texas Tech has the ball, 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 7: crazy and. 109 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: Rob if this score holes. 110 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 8: This keeps going back to what you were talking our 111 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 8: one about, you know, first round byszho and to five 112 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 8: in these playoffs so far Texas Tech had a first 113 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 8: round by it'll be six. 114 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 7: And look they're still rusty, they're they're off. Wow, well 115 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 7: what's in their favors? They're often and learned down by 116 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 7: six pens exactly, So hopefully by now they're warmed up 117 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 7: and they should be good here in the second half. 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 7: The Plumbers sticks sticks to being true. Yell right. 119 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: One of the biggest games, of course is Sunday night football, 120 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: right the Ravens. 121 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 5: That's in Pittsburgh. 122 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: Correct, That game is in Pittsburgh against the Steelers and 123 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: the winner wins the division and gets the playoff and 124 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: and a home game and gets a host of game, 125 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean host a game. So somebody's coming to Pittsburgh 126 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: or Baltimore, yes, for that game and Rob guh lay 127 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: it out here. 128 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: Because there's a lot of stuff talking. 129 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 7: There's some consternation in Baltimore. That's a big word that 130 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 7: is learned that from Southern Connecticut Tech State University whatever, 131 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 7: home of the fighting Rob Parkers in the fest box. 132 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: Southern Connecticut State University in New Haven. 133 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 5: That's right. 134 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 7: OK, so big game of course. Now the Ravens have 135 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 7: had must win games each of the last two weeks. 136 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 7: That had win last week to set up this week. 137 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 7: Lamar hurts his back in week sixteen, Snoop Huntley starts 138 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 7: in Green Bay, must win, God to have a game, 139 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 7: plays great sixteen of twenty two oh seven and a 140 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 7: touchdown he ran for others sixty yards. The big story, 141 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 7: of course, Derreck Henry on his back run thirty six carries, 142 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 7: shoutut nineteen nineties football rights, then thirty six cards. 143 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: In the week before that, when they didn't even give 144 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: him the ball in the second half. 145 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 7: They didn't give the ball the last drive yet yeah right, 146 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 7: and then he didn't touch the ball if they got 147 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 7: up by I think eleven points yep, thirty six carries 148 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 7: to sixteen four touchdowns. So flash forward to this week. 149 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson gets his first Wednesday practice in about two months, 150 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 7: comes back from his back injury. We don't know exactly 151 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 7: how much he did. They haven't said that yet. We 152 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 7: do know he's wearing a big flat jacket to prevent 153 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 7: protect his back in his mid section. 154 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 5: I thought that was a fashion statement. Okay, I'm wrong. Nope. 155 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 7: So and even as of today Thursday at two pm Eastern, 156 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 7: John Harbass still has not said who is going to 157 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 7: start on Sunday, Lamar jack or Snoop Huntley. But if 158 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 7: you ask mutual friend of ours, friend of the show, 159 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 7: Shining Sharp, he hasn't answer what he thinks should happen. 160 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 7: Take a listen. 161 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: I'm starting Huntly. 162 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: What what you're playing Madden about? 163 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 5: Real life? 164 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: Yep? 165 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 5: Man, please just run the same from me. There's no 166 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 5: need to start Huntley because I know who he's back there, 167 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna ask him to do more. 168 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 6: Is Lamar gonna be able to get out of arms 169 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 6: weight like Huntley did last night when Green Bay has 170 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 6: he looked like Lamar Jackson since he's gotten back. 171 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 5: No, not the one, not because he's coming off injury. 172 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 5: So therefore start huntly thank you? 173 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, all right, and there you go. My 174 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: thing is it's cutting dry? Is that another turnover? 175 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 176 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: My Texas tax trip sack yep, unbelievable. Where were they? 177 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 8: Morgan's gonna have the ball in the red zone? 178 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: Wow? Wow at the five, I think. 179 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be ball game here. Yeah, let's go 180 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: a touchdown here game but here here, I am if 181 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: Lamar's hurt, carry, I don't want him to play if 182 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: he's not. If he's hurt, yeah, what does hurt mean 183 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: to you? I mean he can't perform like he's out there, 184 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: like you're trying to like, is a touchdown? 185 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: Is a touchdown? Yeah? 186 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: It looks like a touchdown. Okay, so it's finally they 187 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: broke through. And what I mean is he really shouldn't 188 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: be out there playing. And I'll give you an example 189 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: ken Kevin Durant in the NBA Finals. Yes, okay, we 190 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: all knew he shouldn't have been out there. Would you 191 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: agree with that? I agree with that, I don't think 192 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: like they claim all the doctors cleared him and all that. 193 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, who are the doctors take their degrees? 194 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 3: Because everybody was like, what is he doing out there? 195 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: And of course it happens he wound up getting hurt. 196 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: If he's seventy percent, sixty five, seventy percent, I'm going 197 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: to play him over Hunt, I am yes, I'm sorry, 198 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: I'm going to play him, and I'll try to protect him, 199 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: try to make sure, you know, get the running game 200 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: in there as much as we can establish it. And 201 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: then you know what I mean where I'm not asking 202 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: him to be Superman, but i want my two time 203 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: MVP quarterback to play him. 204 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: At seventy percent, is still better than Hotley? Yes, yes, right, and. 205 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 6: Specifically going into this game where if Baltimore doesn't know 206 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 6: the blueprint for them to win right now, this isn't 207 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 6: last year. This isn't the year before where they were 208 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 6: an unst unstoppable offense and they had an unstoppable player 209 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 6: in Lamar Jackson where he could do things that other 210 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 6: guys can do. 211 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: He had a. 212 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 6: Ridigulous, unreal year. This isn't that year. So you played 213 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 6: last week and the must got to have a game. 214 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 6: You ran Derrick Henry thirty six thirty seven times and 215 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 6: you won the game. You're telling me a seventy percent 216 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson can turn around to hand the ball off 217 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 6: and and still more fear and give more fear to 218 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 6: the defense with him being back there, even if he's not. 219 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 6: Like this stuff coming out about playing Tyler Hunley over 220 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, eed, if he's seventy percent doesn't make any 221 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 6: sense coming from players coming from Shannon s Man, Please 222 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 6: be quiet. 223 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: I agree. 224 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: I can't get over because if you don't win that game, 225 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: you can't live with yourself, Rob if you don't. 226 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 6: If they don't win this game, wholesale changes are coming, 227 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: and I think they're coming anyway. 228 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 5: But the Ravens that we know or have known the 229 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 5: last few years. 230 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: Winning seventy seventy three percent of Lamar's game, this is 231 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 3: gonna all change. Yes, okay, this is this is so 232 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: I want to go down with my two time MVP 233 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 3: quarterback now like again if he really can't play, and 234 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: it's oh, of course, Andrew, I'm not putting the guy 235 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: out if I really know, but he's at practice, like 236 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: if he didn't practice all week and you're trying to 237 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: play him on Sunday. 238 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: Nah, yes you know this. Yes, you're not practicing all week. 239 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: You can't play on Sunday. I'm sorry. You gotta practice, 240 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: you gotta practice. So he practiced on Wednesday. Rob Jieven 241 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: said it first time in a couple of months he's 242 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: had a Wednesday practice. 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 6: I gotta feel like he's going to play. He's gonna play, right. 244 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 6: The fact that Hardball hasn't said it yet, that's just 245 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 6: And if that's for them, and. 246 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: If they lose, it's okay. It's okay from the standpoint. 247 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: You put your best people in and it wasn't your 248 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: night and you lose. And now maybe this was the 249 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: ending of what we had here. 250 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 5: We failed. 251 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: We didn't get to the super Bowl. We didn't you know, 252 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: it didn't even give our chance. So it's a chance. 253 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: I told you I picked him the last three years. 254 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: I know you've been picking them because on paper, on paper, 255 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: they should win. When I when I remember Week one 256 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: and they go to Buffalo and put up forty points 257 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: and lose that game, do you remember, like, like course, 258 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: I remember looking at the school going, oh my god, 259 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: like you know, like this This is the second year 260 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: of Derrick Henry and Lamar together and they went up 261 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: to Buffalo and the opener and put up a forty 262 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: piece and lost and. 263 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 5: Then wind up losing that game. Yeah. No, this team, 264 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 5: we know it. 265 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 6: We both watched them very very intently, and we know 266 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: the makings and the inner workings of that team and 267 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 6: the organization those players, and this would be this would 268 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 6: be an abysmal loss and abysmal season. 269 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 5: If they don't win this game, Robin make the playoffs. 270 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 6: And so I'm going out with my with my top 271 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 6: guns too. If there's no way, if he's seventy percent, 272 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 6: I'm not playing them if they don't win the game, 273 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 6: regardless to who's the quarterback. John Harbard has to be fired. 274 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: I agree. I just think it's time. And he won 275 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. 276 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: They've won a lot of games, but every year has 277 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: been disappointing. And Mike Tomlin too. Mike Tomlin is another 278 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: guy who enough with the finishing above five hundred record whatever. 279 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: They haven't won a playoff game since twenty eighteen. Dude, 280 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: that's a long time. You can't keep living off of 281 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: the one Super Bowl, which I'm not taking away from him. 282 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: Or whatever. 283 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean you can't go somewhere else and 284 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 3: and and be a new voice. And and when Tony 285 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: Dungee got fired in Tampa Bay and won an Indianapolis, 286 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: And it doesn't make you a bad coach, No, it doesn't. 287 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: It just means that the time here, everything has an 288 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: expiration date. 289 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Yeah. 290 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: I was drinking the milk and then I realized it 291 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: was a little lumpy, and then I looked on the 292 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: date and I realized it had expired. 293 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: If you, if it took you that long to realize, 294 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: then that's that's the real problem. I couldn't have I 295 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: couldn't imagine drinking lumpy milk. 296 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 6: Am, I right, No, And that's the thing, Rob, You 297 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 6: just need a breath refresh as a new voice, a 298 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: new voice. 299 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: Man. 300 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 6: They're tired of hearing the same message. And how many 301 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 6: times can you change it with you still being authentic 302 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 6: to who you are? 303 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 5: Right? And and that's where it is. 304 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: And and John Harbaugh said they've had way too many 305 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: disappointments for you to feel good about. 306 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: Every way you can be disappointed, Rob, I agree, it's crazy, 307 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 5: all right? 308 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 3: Should the Ravens start Lamar Jackson over Snoop Huntley on 309 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: Sunday Night against Pittsburgh eight seven seven for a four 310 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: thirty four thirty seven. That's eight seven seven for the Herd. 311 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: We'll continue this conversation next with you. 312 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: It is New Year's Day. 313 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: It is The Herd Rob Parker with Kerry Road sitting 314 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: in for Colin right here on Fox Sports Radio. 315 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 5: And you know what you need to do, stick and stay. 316 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 5: You can get up off that hangover USA. 317 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 318 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nin am Pacific. 319 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: It is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, Rob 320 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: Parker and former All Pro safety of course Kerry Road 321 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: sitting in for Colin. Make sure you check out my 322 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: show The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington, 323 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: weeknights four to seven Pacific, seven to ten Eastern, right 324 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. Don't forget Spencer Tillman from 325 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: Fox Sports. Of course, he's a football analyst. He'll be 326 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: joining us in about ten minutes. 327 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: Will do that. 328 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: A lot still to get to in this final hour 329 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: of The Herd on New Year's Day. Hope you had 330 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: a great New Year's Eve, a safe one, And here 331 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: we are for you working hard for your entertainment dollar. 332 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: And also to wrap up the show, we're also Kerry 333 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: going to talk about the biggest sports highlight of twenty 334 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: twenty five. 335 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: I think there's one that's head and shoulders above. 336 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: You think there's only one. Yep, I think there's only one. 337 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: And it's not even close. I'm dead serious. And there 338 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: are a lot of things that happened is showed right 339 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: sports wise, what I really believe it's just one. 340 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: Miami. 341 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: Of course we could go back to that. It's thirteen. 342 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: Nothing to update you on the Oregon Texas Tech. 343 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: Well, the game just started. For the team that had buyers, 344 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: they like to fall fall behind by two touchdowns and 345 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 6: then come back, so we'll see what happens. It's right 346 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 6: because Ohio State was down fourteen. Oh, exactly right, and 347 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 6: now here we go Texas Tech. Uh, down thirteen nothing, 348 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 6: down down thirteen, nothing on the move and it's fourth 349 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: and one here. It's a big, big play here. 350 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 3: Uh, we're of the Miami. Let's just go back there. 351 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: Miami beating Ohio State good bad for college football. Just 352 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: you're okay with it? Yeah, you know, I'm okay with it. 353 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: I think oh that's a terrible, terrible call. What's that? 354 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 5: Oh my god? 355 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: I decided to do a little read option. But they 356 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: had like a wildcat situation with the but you knew, 357 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: you knew he wasn't getting there. I could see when 358 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: I saw it, right, he was not getting there. 359 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 5: It's terrible. What are you doing? Sorry? Yeah? Did he 360 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 5: take it to the quarter? Was that the quarterback? Just anyway? Yeah, 361 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: that's that's not good. 362 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 6: But talked about Miami and beating Ohio State yesterday and 363 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 6: is it good for football or bad for college football? 364 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: And for me, I think we talked about it in 365 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: the first hour. 366 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 6: I think for you know, Miami, you know there are 367 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 6: ten seed and there you know, it's an underdog situation. 368 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 6: They beat Ohio State and people look at that number 369 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: and say, oh, you know, Miami, Miami beating Ohio State's 370 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 6: bad because Ohio State's the brand and obviously had a 371 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 6: chance to repeat. 372 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 5: But for me, I think it's great. 373 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 6: I mean, you sell to teams that are lower rank 374 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 6: that they can go in and win these things and 375 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 6: beat the top teams, and so I'm okay with it. 376 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 5: I know you got a little problem with it, though, Rob. 377 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 8: I just. 378 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: I think My problem is the way it's set up 379 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: and what are we doing with the regular season. Does 380 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: it matter in the old days, if you lost two 381 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: football games in college or done, your season was over. 382 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: And now we're rewarding them. 383 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: By making the playoffs bigger, right and expanding it to 384 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: let teams that didn't And I'm two losses, You say, 385 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: what's the difference between two and one? But in college 386 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 3: football was big right? Your season was over when you 387 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: lost your next game. In college football, that's what you're done. Yeah, yeah, 388 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: And now you're being rewarded because you've opened up the 389 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: field and you're gonna put in these situations. And the 390 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 3: other part is when you start looking and keep going like, okay, 391 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: the teams, the better teams who get the buys. 392 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: Since in this new format the last two years are 393 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 5: now oh and five, something is there. 394 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: It's not like somebody had to buy and they rolled 395 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: and nothing happened or nothing changed. Why are these teams 396 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: off to Texas Tech by It could be Owen six. 397 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: It looks like it's going to be Owen six. They 398 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: don't have. 399 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: Any points here. 400 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: We are on the third quarter right like that, Like 401 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: we can't ignore what harpered Lucy the Texas Tech all Right, 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: all right, Dezy, I can't find that anywhere. 403 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: You can't find that show. 404 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: No, I can't find that clip. Oh that clip of 405 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: him saying what Hopper Lucy? 406 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: On on the on the internet. 407 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: I don't I cannot understand why there's not one clip 408 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: of him saying that. He's just say it all the time. 409 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. Rob. 410 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 6: That's that's that's up for you to find the USC Chris, 411 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 6: you gotta find that for me, Okay, all right, I 412 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 6: need you to find Jesse from I Love Lucy saying yes, 413 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 6: what Hopper Lucy? 414 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 5: Because I can't find it. 415 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 8: But archival stuff is my fortee here I've been probably 416 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 8: finding somewhere, Thank you, buddy. 417 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just that you don't want the best 418 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: team to be knocked out, like if you're a league 419 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: or like. 420 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: Do you Rob? 421 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 6: You keep saying that Miami isn't a slouch of a team. 422 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 6: I mean Miami was considered at this point, they were 423 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 6: number two. 424 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: Is the raining champ? Sure? 425 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: They their biggest payroll, the biggest payroll. Uh, they travel 426 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: extremely well, a house people everywhere, Like those are the 427 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: schools you want to be involved going forward. 428 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: And I'm just saying I'm not saying that. 429 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: They can't be an upset occasionally or whatever, but oh 430 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: to five going to be owen six is worrisome. 431 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: That's the problem. That's because nobody's Yeah, that's the problem, 432 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 5: I think. 433 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 6: And we talked about it earlier again, you guys, if 434 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: you guys are just tuning in in the first in 435 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 6: the first hour, we talked about maybe the issue is 436 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 6: the receding of it and how they seed it because 437 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 6: Miami obviously if you look at them, they're not a 438 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 6: ten seed, right, so I think reseeding can be the 439 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 6: biggest issue here. 440 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: But if you lose two games though, I mean, like, 441 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: like this is because expanding sometimes what. 442 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 6: If you lost two games, what if you lost one 443 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 6: throughout the season, then you lose your conference championship. That's 444 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 6: the game, I know, But that those two games aren't 445 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 6: created equal, like you major your league championship and then 446 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 6: you I'm not saying that's that's not the case. 447 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 3: But even in Ohio, Ohio State, they won all their 448 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: games and then they lost their league champions but that 449 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: was only one. 450 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 5: That was only you know what I'm saying, So they 451 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 5: lost and in Ohio State. I don't want to. 452 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: We could do revisionist history and now say they really 453 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't have been the number one, I mean number two, 454 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: because they didn't play anybody in Indiana beat them in 455 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: the in the Big Ten championship or whatever. 456 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 6: Man Oregon's trying to keep check the teching this game, Well, 457 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 6: I just gotta pick right. 458 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 5: They keep going foot on fourth down? The ball? Was 459 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: that a fourth town? 460 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 7: Yes? 461 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 5: My goodness, what is going on? I don't know these coaches? 462 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 3: Everything is mad now they play field position, trust your 463 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: defense the right? 464 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: What are you doing? 465 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 6: I mean it's not even like they're at the in 466 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 6: like that friend's thirty five yard there were nowhere Nowhereville? 467 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 6: Why right, rob g what's going on with this? 468 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 7: Why if you're not gonna punt, then it aren't punted. 469 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 7: Tom Brady's I was throwing fifty yards and they're gonna 470 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 7: be a touchdown interception be one of the others, yes, right, 471 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 7: And he's like, I'm gonna throw a seven yard crossing 472 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 7: route that gets picked off. 473 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 5: They get the ball back in midfield. 474 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: You know what, I gotta admit, Brandon Staley did more 475 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: damage to football than I ever thought. 476 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: You think he has that much credit that it's him. 477 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna blame Brandon Staley because he was the one 478 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: doing those crazy like I used to watch and go, 479 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: are you kidding me? Just out of touch? I remember 480 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 5: one what. 481 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: They playing Kansas City. They could have beat Kansas City 482 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: here in LA. And he had like two or three 483 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: calls that were just and one was like fourth down 484 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: you know on their nine. 485 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, like weird, yeah, weird. And I'm like, you're gonna 486 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 5: give Patrick Mahomes and them the ball out to nine. 487 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: But they don't view it like that. Rob. 488 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 7: They're like, no, we're gonna go for it and we're 489 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 7: gonna have first down at the thirteen is what. 490 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 5: We're gonna do. We don't view it as we're gonna 491 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 5: give them the ball back. That's what they go for it. 492 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 7: The analytics say yes, yeah, no. And now you see 493 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 7: that graph thick on the screen. It says, God, when 494 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 7: is it ever said punt. I've never seen on that graphic. 495 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 7: Fourth and three from this spot says punt. You know what, 496 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 7: It always says go for it. It's just like baseball. 497 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: They don't want to bun anymore to move the runner 498 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: over and then guys hitting the double plays all the time, 499 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: am I right? 500 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 5: It drives you. 501 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: It's like first and second, nobody out and they don't 502 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: want to bunt the runner over and a guy hit 503 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: into a double and you're hitting into the shift, dudu. 504 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's changed, but but you know 505 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: what I mean, you're hitting into the shift like. 506 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 5: They're playing you for that. I'm like, they didn't score. 507 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 5: How do you know what I mean? Like, what are 508 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: you doing here? Like man at first and second? 509 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: No outs and then and then swing away ground ball 510 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: and shortstops gonna be a double play. 511 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, Okay, crazy. 512 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: All right, we are gonna talk with our man, Spencer 513 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: Tillman from Fox Sports. Uh, the college football analysts. We're 514 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: gonna do that again. 515 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 5: We have them. Are we ready? Okay, We're gonna do that. 516 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: Carrie talked to Spencer just about some of the stuff 517 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: we're talking about with college football and what is cool 518 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: maybe needs to be cleaned up and some of these ideas. Uh. 519 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: But but let's say this. Okay, So the big game 520 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: is today is Saturday, Niner Seahawks. 521 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: Right, a huge game. Who do you like in that game? Man? 522 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 6: It's for the number one seed, and obviously, I mean 523 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 6: it can be for the number one seed in the 524 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: NFC and winning the NFC West as well, which has 525 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 6: been a gauntlet this year. But both of those teams 526 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 6: have played out of their mind, I think for different reasons. 527 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 6: Seattle obviously defensively. 528 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: Here's another Sam Donald game. I'm just it is it is. 529 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 5: I'm not even kidding you, and people think I'm too 530 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: hard on him. But the Mines. 531 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: What happened in Minnesota last year the weason, He's not there. 532 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: You people could say, oh, well they had JJ McCarthy. 533 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: You got a quarterback who did what he did last year? Carrie, 534 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: how many times has he changed teams? After you take 535 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: it team and go fourteen into and put up the 536 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 3: numbers and that team was rolling. Do you remember they 537 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: carried that guy into the locker room after I can 538 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: remember with game it was late in the season. This 539 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: video of the Sam Darnold celebration where they carry him 540 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: into the locker room and then they don't sign a 541 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: back week sixteen that I think that do you remember 542 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: that Week sixteen? 543 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: He think? 544 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: Then he watched the bed against the Lions for the 545 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: division on the line, right they're in the red zone 546 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: four or five times in the first half, I remember, can't. 547 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: Get it in. 548 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: Then he has a terrible playoff game and because of 549 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: the fires. Remember the game was played uh in Arizona, 550 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: remember that the whole thing. But anyway, neutral site, he's 551 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: terrible in that game against the Rams, and that's where 552 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: people go, I can't trust him. Now here's another game. 553 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: Another year is the second year where he has a 554 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: chance to win the division. 555 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 6: And put your team and I mean and very similar 556 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 6: situations in similar teams as well, Am I right? 557 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 5: I mean the Vikings team last year. 558 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 6: Obviously the Vikings scored a lot of points, but that 559 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 6: defense was one of the top defenses in the in 560 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 6: the in the NFL, and the same could be said 561 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 6: about the Seattle Seahaws next year. I mean, one of 562 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 6: the most feared defenses in the league this year. And 563 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 6: so for Sam donald Man, it's just and it's always 564 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 6: been about him not being not turning the ball over 565 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: because he plays well in spots, even in games when 566 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 6: he has turnovers, he plays well, and then all of 567 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 6: a sudden he just snaps back to throwing these weird turnovers. 568 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 6: The interception. So if he can take care of the ball. 569 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: I think Seattle has the team to to get it 570 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: done and win it and win that division. 571 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 9: But if if, if he doesn't, if he doesn't, if 572 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 9: he if he just say those couple of picks you 573 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 9: saw the first half because because I go back to 574 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 9: the first half of the Rams game, that narrative was 575 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 9: buzzing because they were like, while am I right, Like, 576 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 9: oh my god, here we go again? 577 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: Uh Sam Donald. That was a big spot for him, 578 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: And that's why I think this is another big spot 579 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: for him. They has to respond. And if you're Seattle again, 580 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: they didn't give them like some monster contrary. 581 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: And that's the difference. 582 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 6: And I think what you're saying, Rob, with Minnesota, I'm 583 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 6: sure they could have matched that number. And the fact 584 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 6: that they didn't match the number they had got in Seattle, 585 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 6: thank you. It wasn't like army. 586 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, oh my god, they gave them two 587 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. We're not doing that. Okay, right, we're 588 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: not doing that right. But it was like, Rob, g 589 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: was it a one year plus one? It was like 590 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: a one plus one. It wasn't even a full two. 591 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 3: And this one for Seattle and Seattle. I'm not sure Rob, 592 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: you got that. I think I got it right here 593 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 3: right now. It was marketed as a three years, one 594 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: hundred right, but yeah, when you pull the onion back, 595 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: you pull it back, you look at it, and it's 596 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: one year. 597 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 5: Of course, this season big number. 598 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 7: And then if they really wanted to get out of it, 599 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 7: because there's no other like guaranteed salary beyond twenty twenty five, 600 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 7: how about that, Hey, you got to take some cap 601 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 7: hit obviously, No, no, buddy, you don't got to pay 602 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 7: a lot of money. 603 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: Ry they got they gotta fail safe setting place. Yes, 604 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 5: we're just a one year like coming off for a year. 605 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 5: And his numbers were crazy last year it. 606 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 6: Was and obviously you just said that you hit them. 607 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 6: Why those two games that mattered were bad and now 608 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: he's got another chance. And we saw you referenced it. 609 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 6: You talked about the Ram game on X it was loud. 610 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 5: Riot. 611 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: And then you know, I hear people like after they 612 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: came back and win, and then they go, well, I 613 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: guess you could stop that narrative on No, no, we're 614 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: not stopping the narrative on Sam Donald. Okay, and they 615 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: did win the game. You give him credit. You give 616 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: him credit. He won the game. I'm not taking away 617 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: from but really like the whole idea that if he 618 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: has a stinker in this one, that people are going 619 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: to be like, well, he won the Rams game, so 620 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: he's good. No, no, no, he's he's got that with him. 621 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: And I think he needs to win a couple not 622 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he has to win the game super 623 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: Bowl for people to start believing or trust. 624 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 5: What do you think it is? Then? What do you 625 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: think he needs for this playoff run in particular? 626 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: Or I just think if they if they beat San 627 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: Francisco and win a division, win a division, and then 628 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: win a couple of games, you know, like like like 629 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: get to the NFC Championship game. I think people I 630 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: think that we're looking people go Sam Donald, I mean 631 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: he turned his career around, was a bus with the Jets. Yeah, 632 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: and now he's in the NFC Championship. I think that's real. 633 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 634 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 6: No, I think that because there is a progression when 635 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 6: it comes to NFL quarterbacks and actually get into that 636 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 6: big game. I mean we can talk about the forty 637 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 6: nine ers, other team, right, they had a quarterback that 638 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 6: got a chance after a legend got hurt. He stepped 639 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 6: in and was having remarkable, you know, regular seasons and 640 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 6: would have playing outs in the playoffs. And you know 641 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: what that quarterback is, right, that's Steve Young. But I 642 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 6: mean the question, I mean, the narrative around him early 643 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 6: was he couldn't win the big game and a lot 644 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 6: of people forget about that. It took him years and 645 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: especially replacing such a game that point. Come on, Yeah, 646 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 6: and so you have that situation happened, and the progression 647 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 6: of that you have to take some lumps and losses, 648 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 6: and he's already taken his and now it's time for 649 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 6: him to, of. 650 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 5: Course correct take that next step absolutely, Rob g. 651 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 7: I just got a question for you, Rob, because I 652 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 7: want to make sense of this whole situation, and you 653 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 7: just went for what thirteen minutes talking about Sam Donald 654 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 7: and he's got to get it done. I've never been 655 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 7: a believer in Sam Ronald McDonald and he's gonna turn 656 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 7: into a pumpkin. But Day one listeners of the Odd 657 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 7: Couple Week Nights forty seven is in VIM Eastern Carrie, 658 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 7: you were here on Monday. Yeah, did he not say 659 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 7: I don't care about Kyle Shanahan holding this team together 660 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 7: in s that Francisco, if he doesn't win in the playoffs, 661 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 7: get to. 662 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: A super Bowl. I don't care. 663 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 6: Well. 664 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 5: These two teams in order for one of these things. 665 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 7: To happen, are gonna play each other on Saturday and 666 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 7: could conceivably play each other in the playoffs. So you 667 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 7: can't have both of them. It's got to be Super 668 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 7: Bowl or bust. 669 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: Which one? 670 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: Is it? 671 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 5: Rob j in the world according to Party? 672 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: But no, Senahan's story is different from he keeps getting 673 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: to these big and Rober, you had the stats. I 674 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: know you don't have a handy, but the stats in 675 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter of those games, and people try not 676 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: to give them credit for uh the loss that the 677 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: Falcons had to the Patriots. I'm sorry you do, Rober. 678 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: You give us those numbers. How you know that we 679 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: use it a lot because I took one search in 680 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 3: my email and I had edit care handy real numbers. 681 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 5: All right. 682 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 7: So Kyle Shannan has been in the Super Bowl three 683 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 7: times once is an OC in Atlanta, twice as a 684 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 7: head coach with the Niners. He has blown a twenty 685 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 7: eight to three lead as in OC, the largest in 686 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 7: Super Bowl history, and he has blown two separate ten 687 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 7: point fourth quarter leads. Those would be tied for the 688 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 7: second largest blown lead in Super Bowl history. That's what 689 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 7: he has on his resum. And that's not even your favorite. 690 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 7: That this is Rob's favorites stat right here. Between the 691 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 7: three Super Bowl once as the OC, twice as the 692 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 7: head coach, Kyle Shanahan's teams have been outscored a combined 693 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 7: fifty eight to twelve. 694 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: In the fourth quarter every eight to twelve? Hello, is 695 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 5: this on? And here's my thing? When he was OC. 696 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason he got that job was the job 697 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: that he had done right right when he got the 698 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: head coaching job. I would have rescinded that after they 699 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: lost that Super I would have pulled it back. Here 700 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: was the problem. Julio Jones makes an unbelievable catch on 701 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: third down right to set him up first and ten 702 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: at to twenty two. 703 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 5: Twenty two. 704 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: Kerry, cut the ball, Kerry, you run the ball three times, 705 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: don't fumble it, don't three just go forward a you 706 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: have a shot for a chip shot as a field 707 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: goal right and you might have picked up in three runs. 708 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: You might have picked up five or six yards. You're 709 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: at the twenty one or I mean at the sixteen 710 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: or the fifteen or whatever. Okay, Also you eat the clock. 711 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: Go back and watch. I'm telling you of you're a 712 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: football fan, go back and watch the end of that 713 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: game on the play clock. They're starting plays with twenty 714 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: five seconds still left. 715 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 5: On the play clock. Just no awareness. 716 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: Make it run all the way down before I start 717 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: my play. That gives me, That gives less time for 718 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 3: Tom Brady if they were to get the ball back. 719 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: You always have to be thinking in those terms. You 720 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: don't pass the ball in that spot. I don't care 721 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: what you did all year. There's winning football, and there's football. 722 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: It's winning time. 723 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: And we talked. 724 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 6: I told you those guys like Shanahan and McVeigh sometimes 725 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 6: they're too smart for their own good. 726 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: Yes, instead of going hey, all we need to do 727 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: is we need to run the football. And instead there's 728 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: a holding, there's a sack. You're out of field goal range. 729 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: Howe I know, I know said the blank should have 730 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: had a heart attack right on the sideline. Remember he 731 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: came down ready for it was his fault. 732 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 5: I blame him. I don't blame going down there. I 733 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 5: know I remember that too. That's funny. 734 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 7: Jumped on the phone called Robert Crafted on the other box, 735 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 7: I heard, we're going to Miami tonight. 736 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 5: Tell me where the Strip Mall is. No, he didn't 737 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: say that. I hope he didn't say that. 738 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 6: He said till he said, he said, he told he 739 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 6: said till Wayne to be a live waiting for him. 740 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 5: So wait what it was? Exactly through another interception, Texas 741 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 5: Tech Indian Zone. 742 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, gracious, really, yes, Carrie, who'd you pick 743 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 7: to make the nation the champiship game? 744 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 6: Uh to a recent national championship game? I had Miami, 745 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 6: and I still haven't looked at the other member. 746 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: It wasn't, Yes it was. It wasn't Texas, Texas, No way, 747 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 5: no way, it wasn't. 748 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 6: It was. 749 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 5: No Carry's like see that's why he couldn't remember. I 750 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: couldn't remember the other one. I knew it was Miami though, right, Miami? Okay? 751 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 5: All right, wow, I was going to say the one 752 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 5: that I had that advance that made it through so far. 753 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna put a bow on this bad 754 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: boy a bow on twenty twenty five Sports Calendar, and 755 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 3: we'll do that next. It is the Herd Rob Parker, 756 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: Carry Rhodes filling in for column right here on Fox 757 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: Sports Radio. 758 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 8: And you want to stick and stay, you two could 759 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 8: get an interception in Tech on Texas Tech. 760 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: In the USA, be. 761 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: Sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and 762 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: Noone Eastern n a im Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 763 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 764 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 5: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 765 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast Straight Fire 766 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 4: with Jason McIntyre. 767 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: This isn't your. 768 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: Typical sports pod pushing the same tired narratives down your 769 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 4: throat every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on 770 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 4: all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to. 771 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 5: Help you win big at the sportsbook, and all the 772 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 5: best guests. 773 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 774 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 775 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 4: you get your podcasts. 776 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 5: It is The Herd On your New Year's Day. 777 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 3: Hope you had a great New Year's Eve and you're 778 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: just chilling watching college football thirteen to nothing Oregon over 779 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: Texas Tech. 780 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 5: They're in the fourth quarter, about nine minutes to go. 781 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: Rob Parker, former All Pro safety Carry Road, sitting in 782 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: for Colin, and if you missed any of today's show, 783 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: you'll want to catch the podcast Rob GE's put it 784 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: together as we speak, not just on the Herd feed, 785 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: but the Odd Couple feed as well. Just search the 786 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: Herd on the Odd Couple wherever you get your podcasts. 787 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: Right after the show, today's podcast will be posted. Be 788 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: sure to follow the podcast rated at least five stars, 789 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: and even provide a review because we're wiped it. 790 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 5: That's right again. 791 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: Just search the herd on or the Odd Couple wherever 792 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 3: you get your podcasts, and you'll find today's. 793 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 5: Full show and best of version. Post it right at 794 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 5: the end of the show. 795 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: And don't forget Rob g might be going home to 796 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: get in bed, but I'll be working tonight on The 797 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: Odd Couple. I will be on with Martin Wise filling 798 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: it for kelvin Washington, and we will do I'm double 799 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: dipping on a New Year's Day. 800 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 5: It is all good. I got a lot of stuff 801 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 5: coming out. 802 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: We got the Super Bowl we're going to in San Francisco, 803 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: got a speaking engagement at Syracuse in February. So I 804 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: got these other things coming up. So these extra days 805 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 3: will be good for me and I don't mind working 806 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: on a holiday. I told you, sagi us, it's all good. 807 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: It's not like we're digging ditches or anything. Let's be honest. 808 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: But uh, we're gonna wrap on this. What was your 809 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 3: biggest sports highlight in twenty twenty five? And usc Chris 810 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: or robb G If you guys want to join in too, 811 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: it's cool, robb G. 812 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 5: You you have what we need. 813 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 3: Okay, here's mine with I'm just gonna go to mine first, 814 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 3: do that without question. I don't care what anybody says. 815 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: He said, there's nothing else that competes. There's nothing else 816 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: that competes with this. 817 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 5: Here we go. 818 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: They y'all. 819 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 5: Drill, don't I field? Indeed? 820 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: Good? 821 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 6: No way go Rojas. 822 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a big one, Cherry. 823 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: What if he doesn't bail out the Dodgers? Remember that's 824 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: a two billion dollar bust. Yes, that was one out 825 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: nobody on in the ninth inning in Toronto, right Toronto, 826 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: winning by one run. Miguel Rojas of all people to 827 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 3: hit a home run in that spot with Otani on deck, 828 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 3: like seriously, and the pitcher got in trouble because you 829 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 3: don't want to pitch from behind. You gotta know you 830 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: gotta go after Rojas have to three and two. He 831 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: knows you gotta carry you. No, baseball, dude, you walking 832 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: me with Otani on deck? No, no, you gotta throw 833 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: the ball over the plate. I'm gonna be ready. He's 834 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: a Major League play baseball player. He's old, but he's 835 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: exactly throw the ball over the plate, and I know 836 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: it's coming. Yeah, dude, Yeah, save the bacon of Otani 837 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: who didn't play well, Mookie Betts, didn't didn't hit well, 838 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: Freddie Free like like that was going to be a 839 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: big bus. Oh my god, how did the Dodgers lose 840 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 3: that World Series? With all his firepower, all these great 841 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, rotation and pitching, all these guys they got 842 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 3: they got was a two billion dollar and Miguel Rojas hit. 843 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 5: That big home That's That's a good one for me. God, 844 00:39:59,520 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 5: I mean for me. 845 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 6: The biggest sports highlight from twenty twenty five. I don't 846 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 6: know if it's a highlight or a low light, but 847 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 6: they fit in the same space that Luca Doncas trade 848 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 6: to the La Lakers was one of the biggest stories 849 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 6: obviously twenty twenty five, and it. 850 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 5: Was a low light now because you don't play defense. 851 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 6: See, but look, I've I've watched him players my team 852 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 6: for years and I told I told people, I said, yeah, 853 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 6: he's gonna score, he's gonna it's gonna be flash, he's 854 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 6: gonna have fun. 855 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 5: But can he play enough defense and help that team win. 856 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 3: It's still tough to see. Yeah, it's bad. I don't 857 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen. 858 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 7: Rob g Usc, Chris, y'all got any which I was 859 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 7: torn between two and Carrie took the one I was 860 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 7: thinking of, but the other one that immediately came to mind. 861 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 7: This is another negative. But it okay, But the sports 862 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 7: world should your Sanders falling in the NFL draft? 863 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 5: Okay? 864 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 7: That is that entire defined sports media coverage and NFL coverage. 865 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 8: Yep, for ever, it was still draft night. It's mel 866 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 8: Kiper losing his cool, losing everything. 867 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 3: That was like Mel Kuiper for a guy who's gotten 868 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: so many wrong, like gotten me wrong. 869 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 5: I don't like mail Kiper. Oh, but you're the beef 870 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 5: male Kuiper. I know I'm joking, but you know what 871 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 872 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 3: Like he was like, like they don't know what they're 873 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: like like everybody in football, he knows what nobody else 874 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: does like you didn't get you haven't gotten every pick, right, 875 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 3: So let's not act like it's exact science, and it's not. 876 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 7: And there were people don't even watch football who knew 877 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 7: about that story that they're like, oh, man, there's this 878 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 7: kid from Colorado and he's supposed to be drafted. He's 879 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 7: on day three and he hasn't been drafted yet and 880 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 7: they're breaking through on ABC local television, right, or watch 881 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 7: him in the NFL draft he has not been taken 882 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 7: yet and where I picked one twenty seven, Right, that's true? 883 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 5: What you all right? 884 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's just so hard to beat that 885 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 8: world series. It's probably the best world series had a 886 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 8: long time. 887 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: It was. 888 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 8: This might be another low light for me, but just 889 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 8: everything around that day of what happened in the NBA 890 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 8: against the arrest of Chauncey Billups, Terry Rogier, the FBI indictments, 891 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 8: like because I feel like once that moment hit our 892 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 8: entire relationship between what we do and what we watch 893 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 8: on TV and sports gambling, which had slowly but surely 894 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 8: been encroaching more and more into the space that that 895 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 8: we had to question everything about that that relationship. 896 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 5: After that moment. Yeah, Chris, that's a great point, BROB. 897 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 5: Weren't you tired with Chauncy? 898 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 7: You know what you said? 899 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, you and you hang out together. 900 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: About I worked in Detroit when Chauncey won a championship 901 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 3: in two thousand four. 902 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 5: Way that tight like that at the house. No, never 903 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 5: at that, you know what I mean. Like it's like 904 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 5: suddenly after that everything started to get questioned. 905 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 2: I mean, and and and. 906 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 5: That's the scale of it. And then the other thing 907 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 5: with you know, this is not like just on basketball. 908 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: You're talking about fake tables and mirrors, like really really 909 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 3: set sitting you know what I mean. 910 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 8: That's a sitting NBA coach in the pocket of the mafia. 911 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 8: What else are you they asking him to do? And 912 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 8: then and then we know, uh, every week in the NFL, 913 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 8: all we see trending. Every Sunday is rigged. 914 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 3: And the NFL script you see it every time there's 915 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 3: some play or something and people lose money. 916 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 5: Uh, people go crazy over it. I don't know if 917 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 5: you saw it last night? Who was it? The Knicks 918 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 5: and uh Jalen hit a meaningless three and and it messed. 919 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: Up to spread all right? It is a herd, right, 920 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. Check out the odd couple 921 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 3: later on tonight