1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: and Jetty and he Armstrong and Getty. Crisis situations like this, 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: people tend to show you who they really are and 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: who the elite of Washington dc R is. 6 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: These partners, Washington insiders, who made sure in a life 7 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: or this situation to grab the things most dear to them. 8 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: The bottle service. 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: What if only, if only I had more time, I 10 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: could have saved the rose. 11 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: That's a John Stewart from last night on the Daily Show. 12 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: We got another bit of his comedy styling. 13 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Of course, there was this guy. Check this video out 14 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the last side of your screen. 15 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: This man, creative artist agent super agent Michael Glance has 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 4: gone viral for aiding food casually as people are crouched 17 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: down after this shooting at the White House. Correspond his dinner. 18 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me? 19 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: Waited when youg done incapacitating the assassin. 20 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I would love some more ranch dressing. I'd be a doll. 21 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: If you could to refill some lady took my wine. 22 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: If you could. 23 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: Did we mention that yesterday the guy's explanation was he 24 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: has a bad back, and if you'd gotten down on 25 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: the floor, you wouldn't have been able to get back up. 26 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Since I have to sit up here, I might as 27 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: well eat my food. Oh that's funny. I hadn't heard that. 28 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: I heard him say, Look, I'm a New Yorker. I 29 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: hear like crap and sirens and gunshots all the time. Yeah, 30 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: I've I don't react to noise as much, just because 31 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: there's so many noises that go on all the time 32 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: with construction and all that sort of stuff. So I 33 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: would have been closer to where Trump was than Malaney 34 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: with the wide eyed oh my god, what was that? 35 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Just there's always crashes and crap going on when you're 36 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: in a crowd. 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: To that point. Susie Weiss, who also works at the 38 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Free Press, co founded it with her sister. Barry was 39 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: there at the dinner and she wrote an absolutely great piece. 40 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Here's the always the preamble and the fact that I 41 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: have to issue this, you know, preamble or disclaimer, just 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: shows how idiotic are conversations in America have become. The 43 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: conversations that believe, for instance, to be pro woman, you 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: must be anti man or. To be pro little girls, 45 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: you must be anti little boys. And there behavior it 46 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: is so evil and stupid. I can hardly talk about 47 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: it without getting pissed off. But Susie Wise, who was 48 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: there in the midst of the chaos and the gunshots 49 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: and the rest of it. The title of her article 50 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: is my takeaway from the White House Correspondence Dinner Dude's Rock, 51 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: and she describes how she was sitting with Elliot Ackerman, 52 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: the author and former Special Forces Guay. 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: That'd be a good guy to be sitting next to 54 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: if she starts. Yeah, but there's a lot more to it. 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: And they were talking about how grand the event was, 56 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: and they're having the conversation about when you became a dad, 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: did you go with Roman Empire World War Two? And 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: he said, oh, both, And then he told her a 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: story about Roman heroes coming back from war, how they 60 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: were celebrated and there would be chariots and parades and stuff, 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: but always a slave whispering in his ear over and 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: over again, sick transit Gloria, sick transit Gloria, which means roughly, 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: glory is fleeting. And then not one minute later, after 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: loud bangs sounded right outside the doors where we were 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: seated in the back of the room. Elliott was behind 66 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: me and his wife. We were huddled under the table, 67 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: clutching hands, whispering to each other about their friends and 68 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: where were they and do you have her? Elliott calmly 69 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: and quietly narraated and narrated what was going on. Okay, 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: now they're taking the administration officials out of the room. 71 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: Scott Besent is going to come around us right now, 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: he said, steadily, it's okay, it's okay. And one of 73 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the other husbands kept standing up, and his wife kept saying, 74 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: get your head down. And then Susie writes, when I 75 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: got up soon I was shuffled to the front of 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: the room to get my sister by a security guard. 77 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Everyone was reeling. But the men were 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: also another thing. They were activated. And I'm not talking 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: here about the obvious heroes of the Evening Law Enforcement 80 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Secret Service, others with guns that they're ready, blah blah blah. 81 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: They acted nobly, but they weren't the only ones. The 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: lobbyist David Urban was nearly glowing telling us how we 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: went to West Point served in the hundred and first, 84 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: and that he simply wasn't about to let anything bad 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: happen to us. I believed him, as did the other 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: women there. Aaron McLain who was caught on camera during 87 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: the pandemonium, looking about as shaken as a person who 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: really couldn't decide if they wanted chicken or fish, was 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: talking protocols, perimeters and numbers with these How many seconds 90 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: did it take for security to get Trump out of 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 1: the building into the beast? How many yards away from 92 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: was the shooter from the doors? How long will it 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: take to figure out exactly what happened? Many of the 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: men had hands on hips, surveying the room and counting tables, 95 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: doors and exits, nodding along to a distinctly male tune. 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Behind their eyes you could glimpse the multiplication of tables 97 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: for people by table division by minutes, then seconds, accounting 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: for escalator bottlenecks. Mclainan was a marine and among many 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: veterans in the room for whom it seemed a primal 100 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: stopwatch had been started. The second they saw literally that 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: the big guns had come out. Immediately they became situationally aware. 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: And she goes on describing many men's reactions, some veterans, 103 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: some not, and how very very different. It was then 104 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: host of the women's as it should be, because men 105 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: and women are very very different. The way we're made 106 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: and the two in combination is what makes the world 107 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: wonderful and go around. 108 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: Makes sex better. Gender is a construct, in. 109 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: My opinion, it does. Yeah, that's stupid and what's more, 110 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: utterly incorrect, utterly incorrect and provably so. Yeah. Yeah, many 111 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: actual veterans, not to mention, veteran journalists dude covered wars 112 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: sprung into action, whether pushing tushes under seats, recording what 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: was happening, or simply creating a sense with their mean 114 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: that things were totally under control. I lost count of 115 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: the number of times I heard about vehicles coming and going, 116 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: the security minded man's term of endearment for cars, et cetera, 117 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: et cetera. That's pretty interesting, not surprising. Yeah. 118 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, that Elliott akerm in the book 119 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: The Fifth Act, one of my favorite nonfiction books I've 120 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: ever read about war, maybe my favorite one I've ever 121 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: read about war, and couldn't recommend it more highly. Yeah, 122 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: I'd never thought about the people in the crowd. You 123 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: would have, you know, whether it's Pete Hegseeth or Elliot 124 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: Ackerman or who knows a whole bunch of names that 125 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: I probably don't know. If it had had turned into 126 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: a real battle of some port sort, you had a 127 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: lot of guys there who've had a lot of experience 128 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: with that sort of thing, and then obviously all the 129 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: Secret Service dudes. 130 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, But her greater point, I think is a 131 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: good one. Sure, I've probably made it. But and Jack, 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I know you can relate to this having had threats 133 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: to your family, like direct violent threats, and it's been 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: a long time since anything ugly like this happened to me. 135 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: But again, and most of the women listening this show 136 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: would never denigrate masculinity. They don't use the term toxic masculinity. 137 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: They understand that some men are abusive and terrible, but 138 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: masculinity is not the issue. 139 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: All the women I know say where did it go? 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: If they say anything about it at all. 141 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think any of us who have ever 142 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: had somebody we love to protect when things get ugly, 143 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and it's not a choice. I don't even know that 144 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: you'd call it courage per se, right exactly. It's as 145 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: instinctual as exhaling. After inhaling, you react with not hiding, 146 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: but with what's happening and what needs to be done. Yeah, 147 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, it is not a choice. 148 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: It's a Humans that reacted that way survive and get 149 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: to have offspring, and humans that don't react that way 150 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: don't survive and get that offspring. 151 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: And so it's just a genetic thing. Yeah, well said. 152 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: So anyway, good for you Susie Weiss writing that piece. 153 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: It takes men and women to make the ideal world, 154 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: and to denigrate one sex to elevate the others is 155 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: the height of ugliness and stupidity. And if you do that, 156 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: I hate you. That's hate speech. Ah. 157 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to I'm trying to decide whether I'm 158 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: my goal is to not get arrested at a hospital 159 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: when I refuse to leave the room. 160 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: That's a low bar, but a good goal, ye, given the. 161 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: Circumstance since the and it's fairly new thing in California, 162 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: and I don't know how much of the rest of 163 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: the country where a lot of y'all live, where this 164 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: is true, where if you take your kid to the doctor, 165 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: and your kids over the age of twelve, it's the 166 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: kid and the doctor that are in charge you wait outside. No, 167 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: Now do I get arrested if I push that, or 168 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: what happens there? Or do I want to be the 169 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: rosa parks of this? I actually said that to a 170 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: lawyer friend yesterday. Maybe I want to be the rosa 171 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: parks of this. Have used my lawyer and turned this 172 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: into an issue. Although I'm worried about how many people 173 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: would agree with me in the state of California, since 174 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: it is part of laws we have passed in this state. 175 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: I'll explain this all to you coming up. 176 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: I gotta believe that in some parts of the country 177 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna think this is crazy, but it's the way 178 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: we do it here. 179 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not an accident. 180 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: No, it's not. Anyway, I'll explain all that coming up. 181 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: I find it highly troubling. 182 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. 183 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: I try to keep myself out of trouble here. It 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be easy because I could get fired up 185 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: about this really fast. So a mom I know, I'll say, 186 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: was at the waiting room to see the doctor with 187 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: their sixteen year old sick kid who's been having a 188 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: choking regularly. I won't get into the details of that 189 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: because it's a distraction. But it's a fairly serious medical 190 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: problem that we're worried about. It's been going on for 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. They're worried about, not me. This 192 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: is not me and this mom in question. So when 193 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: they called the patient's name, Bill Johnson, that's the sick kid. 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: Mom and kids stood up to go in the room 195 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: like you would expect to do. And I have done 196 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: my whole life, and my parents did with me when 197 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: I was kids, and all that sort of stuff. 198 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: With a minor child according to every bit of the law. 199 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: Yes, right, the person that you're fully one hundred percent 200 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: legally responsible for. You both get up in your headed 201 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: toward the room to talk to the doctor. The nurse 202 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: lady puts a hand and says whoa stop patient only, 203 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: And the mom was like, I'm gonna fight you right now, 204 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: she thought to herself, but didn't know what to do, 205 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: and then sat down and the eventually got called in. 206 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: I think this is effing insane that they are separating 207 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: parents from children and talking to them alone about serious 208 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: medical problems. So I did a deep dive on this 209 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: with a lawyer because I'm actually worried about getting arrested. 210 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: I really, I seriously am where I'm gonna say. I'm 211 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: going in there now having read through the law, what 212 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: is most likely to happen is they're going to just say, well, 213 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: you can't get medical service here, because that's the way 214 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: we do it. Let me read a little bit of 215 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: this from you. This is explained by people who have 216 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: been having troubles with this California law that got passed, 217 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: the contrast between medical interviews and police interrogations. When parents 218 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: express vehement frustration like I have over being separated from 219 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: their children, they frequently use terminology associated with the criminal 220 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: justice system, describing the medical interview as an interrogation. 221 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: That's because it is do you have any guns at home? 222 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: This or that, or any of questions about your a 223 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: medical situation that you, as a child may or may 224 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: not know since you're a child. This underscores a critical 225 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: legal and psychological distinction between medical settings and law enforcement settings. 226 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: At California. 227 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: It goes through the law there where how cops can't 228 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: talk to a kid without their parents. There only extreme 229 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: situations can cops start interrogating a child without the parent there, 230 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: And we have that assumption kind of with when we 231 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: go to the doctor. Turns out that's not the case. 232 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: There are there have been laws that have been passed 233 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: in California. Now it all the original reason for it, 234 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: and I don't even agree with it. In the original 235 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: reason for it is that stuff like you know, sex 236 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: staff for drug stuff are like that that you might 237 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: not be comfortable talking about in front of your parents. 238 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: Whatever. 239 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm still a thousand percent responsible for everything that my 240 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: child does. And let's not you know, throughout the baby 241 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: with the bathwater, as they say so because of those 242 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: certain circumstances, the patients talked to by a doctor on 243 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: their own a child all the time seems nuts to 244 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: be ah, But then I got further down in reading 245 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: about this. There are financial incentives now and this is recent. 246 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: This is why it seems like things have changed. They 247 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: get paid per kid that they talk to alone, and 248 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: then there are other bigger financial incentives that come to 249 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: the entire hospital. If they meet certain goals of the 250 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: number of kids that they talk to alone, they get 251 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: to write down on their chart we question the child 252 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: without the parent there, and that fulfills some goal by 253 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: the freaking Marxists, in my opinion, who want to talk 254 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: to the children alone without the parents. So when you 255 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: walk in the door of the hospital, the relationship at 256 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: that point is between the child and a corporation, which 257 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: is what a hospital is, and the parent is a sideline. 258 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: They'll let you in my law, They'll let you in 259 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: if they want to let you in. It's up to 260 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: the corporation and the child. That's the relationship, no longer 261 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: the child and the parent. I think that's freaking insane. 262 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: I think it's part of Marxism. I couldn't hate it more. 263 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: The only reason I'll ever put up with it is 264 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: because I'm there and my kid is sick and I 265 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: need help. 266 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: You're all a. 267 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: Bunch of Marxists if you're going along with this, whether 268 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: you realize it or not. 269 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't know they are. It's the classic, you know, 270 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: the ABC of you make a moral sounding argument for 271 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: a practice which happens to insert the state between the 272 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: parent and the child. Well, it's about abuse and neglect 273 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: or social abuse or whatever. We're not doing it because 274 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, Marx and Engels advocated for public, state run 275 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: education to free children from parental influence. It's right there 276 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: in the Communist Manifesto. They were proud of it. So 277 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: the well meaning people, the useful idiots, they think they're 278 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: doing the right thing. But so you've got the schools saying, hey, 279 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: let's not try your mom and dad about this exactly. 280 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: You've got the university saying let's not tell your family 281 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: about this. You've got the medical institutions now saying you 282 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: don't have to tell your mom and dad about this, 283 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: or your mommy and daddy about this, because they'll do 284 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: it with really young kids. Do you think I'm being 285 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: paranoid thinking that's misplaced when Marxist theory calls for it specifically, 286 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more angry about this. 287 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: I may be more angry about this than practically anything 288 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: that's ever happened in my life. And I'm not exactly 289 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna handle it. So my son is going 290 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: to see a sixth different doctor today. Now my primary doctor, 291 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: this no I really like and trust and all that 292 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. I still don't agree that he talks 293 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: to them without me there. 294 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: But all these other doctors, I don't know them. 295 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna talk about or ask 296 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: would it be crazy? In the town I live in, 297 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: in the state of California for a doctor to say, 298 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: do you ever feel like a girl? Or how many 299 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: guns do you have in your house? Or does your 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: dad recycle or any other bullss? You vote for Trump exactly? 301 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 302 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: And then you've just got the medical part of it. 303 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: They're a kid, they don't know how the system works. 304 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: It took me a long time to figure out what 305 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: you should say and shouldn't say to a doctor to 306 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: try to get the kind of care you want and 307 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: be able to advocate for yourself. 308 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Your kid can't do that. 309 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's insane that you're putting your hand up 310 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: and saying no child, only parent. You stay out there 311 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: will tell you when you can talk. That is effing 312 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: a crazy. 313 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: Let's not tell your mommy and daddy. This will be 314 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: our secret. I couldn't hate this more. 315 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: I guess the other hospital is worse than the one 316 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: I currently go to, so I don't have a lot 317 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: of choices. 318 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Okay, groomers, Armstrong and getty. 319 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 5: If what they mean by opening the straits is yes, 320 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: the straits are opened as long as you coordinate with Iran, 321 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 5: get our permission, or will blow you up and you 322 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: pay us. That's not opening the Straits. Those are international waterways. 323 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 5: They cannot normalize, nor can we tolerate them trying to 324 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: normalize a system in which the Iranians decide who gets 325 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 5: to use an international waterway and how much you have 326 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 5: to pay them to use it. 327 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm a big Marco Rubio fan. 328 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: Full disclosure, there's talk Helprin talks a lot that his 329 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: stock is really high right now compared to JD Vance's. 330 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: It should be. 331 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: We'll see where that goes. But Marco Rubio would be 332 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: an easy vote for president. 333 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah. And I also think he ought to 334 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: be the point person on the Arion conflict. Honestly, with 335 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: all due respect Donald Jay, I just think his explanations 336 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: and his knowledge of the whole thing, and well, his 337 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: ability to communicate it is it's better. It's just better. 338 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: You know. He had a great conversation with Trey yinst 339 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: If you're a news junkie, you know Trey. He's usually 340 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: wearing a flak jacket on a rooftop reporting from the 341 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: Middle East with a helmet with a helmet for Fox News, 342 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: and he's very, very good at that. But I think 343 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: he was in town for the White House Correspondence dinner 344 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: or something like that, and he's spending a little time 345 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. He's got a coat and tie 346 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: on and did a bang up interview with Marco on 347 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Special Report with Brett Behar last night in which Trey 348 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: was a serious, damn smart journalist and Rubio was a serious, 349 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: damn smart politician answering his questions. Let's start, he asks 350 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: if the Supreme leaders alive, and Marco says, yeah, maybe, 351 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: but we don't think he has a decision making power. 352 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: Then in forty two he goes on with the Q 353 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: and A. 354 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: Reports do indicate I Ron has offered to open the streets, 355 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: but they want to delay conversations about their nuclear program. 356 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: Would this be acceptable to the Trump administration? 357 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: Well, again, I'm not going to speculate about the President's 358 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 5: decision making on this matter. Suffice it to say that 359 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: the nuclear question is the reason why we're in this 360 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: in the first place. If Iran was just a radical 361 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 5: country run by radical people, but you know, it'd still 362 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: be problem. But they are revolutionary in essence. Did they 363 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: seek to expand and export their revolution? Not just what 364 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: they do in Iran. That's why they're with Hesbil and Lebanon. 365 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: That's why they've supported Hamas, That's why they've supported the. 366 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Militias in Iraq. 367 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: They don't just seek to dominate Iran, they seek to 368 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 5: dominate the region. And imagine that with a nuclear weapon. 369 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 5: Look what they've done with the Straits, great example. The 370 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: Straits is basically the equivalent of an economic nuclear weapon 371 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: that they're trying to use against the world, and they're. 372 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: Bragging about it. 373 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: They're putting up billboards in Tehran bragging about how they 374 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 5: can hold twenty five percent or twenty percent of the 375 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: world's energy hostage. Imagine if those same people had access 376 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 5: to a nuclear weapon, they would hold the whole region hostage. 377 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh, we need so much more Marco one hundred percent. 378 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: They would, if not just immediately wipe Tel Aviv off 379 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: the planet. 380 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Right in service of their religion. Yeah, which they actually believe. 381 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: Next clip, do. 382 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: You believe the Iranians are serious about making a deal? 383 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: I think the Ionians are serious. 384 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: So we're getting themselves out of the mess that they're in. 385 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 5: All the problems iron had, they had riots a few 386 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 5: months ago, and these were economic riots. 387 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: All the problems that Iran had. 388 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: Before the start of this conflict are still in place, 389 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 5: and most of. 390 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: Them are worse. 391 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: And now they have half the missiles, none of the factories, 392 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 5: and no navy. 393 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: And then the final clip, the next one, Michael, if. 394 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 5: There is no deal, what comes next, Well, again, that's 395 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 5: the president's decision to make. I would start out by 396 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 5: reminding everybody that the level of sanctions on Iran are extraordinary. 397 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: The pressure on Iran is extraordinary, and I think more 398 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 5: can be brought to bear. But I hope that in 399 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: the aftermath of this conflict, the whole world's eyes have 400 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 5: been opened to the threat Iran poses. 401 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 2: The AP had a great article today about the damage 402 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: that has been done to Iran economy and you know, 403 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: getting to the how long can they survive before they collapse? 404 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: Iran has lost outright a million jobs. Ten to twelve 405 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: million jobs are at high risk. That's half of Iran's 406 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: labor force that is at high risk of going away 407 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: like now. For days now, news reports and government officials 408 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: have given radically different estimates of how long they can 409 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: keep their oil wells pumping. Nobody's exactly sure on that. 410 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: It's somewhere between two days and two months. Even if 411 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: it's two months, though, there will be an end time 412 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: for how long you can keep your oil wells pumping 413 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: before you got to shut them down. And that's a 414 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: really really big deal and cost many billions of dollars 415 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: to ever get up and running again, and they can't 416 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: risk that. 417 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't think surprisingly, neither Jack nor I have ever 418 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: run a giant oil field. And it turns out, yeah, 419 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: if you shut it down, it takes zillions of dollars 420 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: and months and months and months and months to start 421 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: it up again, for reasons that I barely comprehend. 422 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: Well, when you shut down production across an entire oil field, 423 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: you'll get water intrusion, chemical instability, which causes things like 424 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: clay swelling. 425 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: To regenerate that myself, the chemical instability, and. 426 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: To regenerate production, you'd have to spend a lot of 427 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 2: money to get those. I didn't know that at all. 428 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: And I come from a part of the world where 429 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: there's lots and lots of oil fields and oil oil 430 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: pump's going, especially. 431 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: We're in the eighties. 432 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: But so when you shut that down, the whole oil 433 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: field can collapse upon itself and water starts to leak 434 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: in and stuff like that. 435 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Didn't know that's like not running your weed whacker for 436 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: a year with California Gas in Yeah, probably, it's probably similar, honestly. 437 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, So anyway, if they run out of places 438 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: to put the oil, they're gonna have to shut everything down, 439 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: and that would be that would be really, really bad 440 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: from the IRGC's perspective. So when do they give? When 441 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: do they cry uncle? Is it a couple of days, 442 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: a couple of months, or do they just pray for 443 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: the apocalypse according to their extremist religious beliefs. Nobody is 444 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: really sure. 445 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Halprin's reporting today, based on his sources in the White House, 446 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: say that there is very very little appetite for restarting 447 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: like the Kinetic War, the hundreds of strikes per day 448 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: with planes and bombs. Nobody's really into that, including Trump, 449 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: according to his reporting, So the likelihood of that restoring 450 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: restarting anytime soon is very low. I don't think this 451 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: is a bad you know, it's easy for the our 452 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: short attention span and the media that hates Trump so 453 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: much to every day talk about it as an obvious 454 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: loss and like Trump's back is up against the wall. 455 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: I agree with Trump on this unless I'm missing something. 456 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Why is his back against the wall as opposed to 457 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: the Iranian leadership's back against the. 458 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Wall and at risk of overusing this metaphor. I was 459 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: so annoyed when the Wall Street Journal just called it 460 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: a standoff when their resources are dwindling fast and their 461 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: capacity to endure the standoff is going away very very quickly, 462 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: and ours is like I mean, the gases up a 463 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: little bit and people are annoyed, But you got two 464 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: parties trying to starve each other out. One lives in 465 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: a grocery store, the other it's down to that last 466 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: ham sandwich. That's not a standoff. 467 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: So if the leadership in Iran collapses, you could still 468 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: end up with a civil war and all cut all 469 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: kinds of hellacious outcomes. 470 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: Oh for twenty years, Yeah, it's possible. Still, it remains 471 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: interesting to see where this is going. And they couldn't 472 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: get a bomb period, There is no well what if 473 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: that could possibly pass muster which the media conveniently ignores, 474 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: but they suck at their jobs. 475 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: I hate that, As I've said been times before, I 476 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: hate the gas prices angle of it. I wish there'd 477 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: be a better response when a response is allowed to look, 478 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: you either think the war's worth it or not, and 479 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: you it's a legitimate conversation to say, I don't think 480 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: it was worth going to war with Iran to stop 481 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: them from having a nuclear weapon. Either I'm okay with 482 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: their having a nuclear weapon, which makes you an idiot, 483 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: or I think there are other ways through sanctions to 484 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: stop them, which I think makes you naive. But you 485 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: can believe it. It's not you, Barack Obama. Yeah, but 486 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: it's not. It's not a but the whole I was 487 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: fine with getting rid of their stopping them from having 488 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon, but that was before I knew gas 489 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: is going to cost a dollar more. 490 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: What kind of argument is that? Yeah, I can't remember 491 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: how old I was when it was pointed out to me. 492 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: It might even have been my mom, who ended up 493 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: getting her Masters of Divinity ordained as minister in her fifties, 494 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: but that I hadn't realized that the Four Gospels were 495 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: written for different audiences, which is why they are somewhat 496 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: different in approach. It's one of the reasons some were 497 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: written for the Greeks, others for the Romans, etc. I 498 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: don't remember which is which because I'm sinful, But anyway, 499 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Trump is incredibly gifted at communicating with people who are 500 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: already inclined to be with him or close to being 501 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: with him. He is remarkably terrible at changing anybody's mind 502 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: or bringing them along. And that's why I'd love to 503 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: see Rubio do a little more talking about this. 504 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: Rubio should be the one going out and doing press 505 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: conferences all the time and just hammering it over and 506 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: over again. 507 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. I get why it's the commander in chief, but 508 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: the commander in chief is absolutely terrible at bringing along 509 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: the American people. If they're not sure they want to 510 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: go somewhere. It's too bad. But it is. It just 511 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: is what it is. 512 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: As they say, coming up, we will finish strong. Also, 513 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: I just wanted to point out a couple of things. 514 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: I think Elon is behind on the day that the 515 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: trial is starting, not a coincidence, but more on the 516 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: way stay here four wide there turns one and two, 517 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: and all the way down the back borrow and Bottles 518 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: is in the wall right after contact, right front of 519 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: pack Landi's around, Loocano's around. 520 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: They're all wrecking. 521 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: Ever, race is a big one, that's the whole field. 522 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: What was that? I was a twenty six car pile 523 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: up at Talladega, the biggest wreck in NASCAR history. Somebody 524 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: didn't somebody didn't signal yeah yeah, looking at their phone texting. 525 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: So if every car wrecked, what then what happened is 526 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: a race over? They go have a picnic in the infield. 527 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it was literally 528 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the whole field. It becomes a foot race exactly, get 529 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: out of your cars, go no insane. I got to 530 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: admit to some desire to check that out online, so 531 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: I smell something. 532 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: As the Elon Musk versus Sam Altman Open ai trial 533 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: begins today in Oakland opening statements, Ronan Pharoh, one of 534 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: the most high profile investigative journalists of the last decade 535 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: or so, has a piece about Sam Altman being a lying, 536 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: misleading scumbag that Elon retweeted today that just came out, 537 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: And The Wall Street Journal had an article come out 538 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: last night online and in today's paper about internal memos. 539 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: People familiar with finances and concerns about how a open 540 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: aiye is failing and not meeting any of their internal 541 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: goals with sources told The Wall Street Journal this all 542 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: landed today. Now it could just be that you know, 543 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: the trials in the news or the Wall Street Journal 544 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: thought they would do a piece coinciding with the trial. 545 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Or it could be the world's richest man who's got 546 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty billion dollars found a way to 547 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: get Ronan Faroh and so many journalists at the Wall 548 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: Street Journal to write some hit pieces that landed the 549 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: day of the trial. 550 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: At the very very least, Elon absolutely has it contacts 551 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: with so many people in the world attack he could say, Hey, 552 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: call Jim Schmidt and Jenny Jones, ask them about Sam Altman. 553 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: How honest he is. Here's their numbers, right, I mean, 554 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: at the very very least. Well, a guy has rich 555 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: and powerfos him. He's probably got tentacles upon tentacles upon 556 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: tentacles of various companies, individuals, whatever, that you could influence 557 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: one way or another with either with access or investing in. 558 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: Their company, or who knows what. Yeah, yeah, it seems 559 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: like a heck of a coincidence too. Two really bad 560 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Sam Altman articles from high profile sources hit the day 561 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: of the. 562 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: Trial, right right, And I for some reason, my mind 563 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: is going back to various stories I've heard through the years, 564 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: which I believe to be true about you know, like 565 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: really great upstart car companies getting crushed by the Big 566 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: three back in the day, or the guy who invented 567 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: intermittent wipers getting screwed and blah blah blah, and they're 568 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: potentially so many dollars at stake here. It makes the 569 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: like war to be the biggest car manufacturer look quaint. Yeah. 570 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have a hard time knowing what to believe. 571 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe for a second everybody's staying within the 572 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: lines of hyriethical conduct. 573 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: Ockham's Razor would lead you to believe that it'd be crazy, 574 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: super practically never seen before hardball when you've got trillions 575 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: of dollars at steak like this. 576 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say this out loud, but I'm an 577 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: underachiever and I won't do it anyway. Could I start 578 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: a razor company called Akham's Razor the obvious way to 579 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: get a close shave? That would be her slogan. It's 580 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: like a Chinese restaurant called walk this way. I remember, 581 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: that's right. I forgot about that one too. Yeah, I 582 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: just need somebody to walk behind me and implement my 583 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: ideas and then just give me a cut. I don't 584 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: even need a big cut. Of course. 585 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: I have my nonprofit museum dedicated to letting people know 586 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: about the amazing thistle. The name of the museum is 587 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: this Will be Awesome, right, which is a good name 588 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: for a museum about thistles. 589 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: Yes, in particular, Yes, I appreciate your high minded public 590 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: service approach, but I'm all about profit. Yes, pure profit. 591 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: You're like Sam Altman, like maybe I don't know. Uh, 592 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: that reminds me. Maybe we'll get to this tomorrow. Read 593 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: a great substack entitled Everyone You Meet Online is a 594 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: freak an Internet for the obsessives, by the obsessives. There's 595 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot of truth. Well, just that that you're not 596 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: seeing normal people with normal lives like influencing on the Internet. 597 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: It's people who've just become entirely Internet oriented who are 598 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: leading the Internet, and so it's become its own weird 599 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: little subculture with a distorted view of what the world is. Yeah. 600 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: So then I read an article the other day and 601 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: I never got around to it. Maybe I will about 602 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: how there's going to be a tipping point, especially with AI, 603 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: where the Internet will be real life because everything will 604 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: be there'll be more energy reflecting upon what is being 605 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: said on the Internet, than there will be anywhere else 606 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: that could happen at some point, then we're doomed. 607 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's really no way to summarize this quickly, 608 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: but it's no secret that Reddit monitors tend to be 609 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: moderators tend to be extremely weird, anti social losers. I'm 610 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: sure whether it's the autistic non binary part time dog 611 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Walker went on Fox News to complain that work is slavery, 612 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: or the former head moderator of livestream Fail, who recorded 613 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: perhaps the most cringe open letter in human history. Reddit's 614 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: history is filled with moderators embarrassing themselves. That's the kind 615 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: of writing. I like, Well, that was something. Here's your 616 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: OS for final thoughts, Joe Getty. I liked it. Hey, 617 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: let's get a final tip from everybody on the crew 618 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: to wrap up the show. Why not Michaelangelow lead us 619 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: off Jack that they can the doctor can ask about 620 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: your recycling habits. I don't know that, but who knows 621 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: what If they do ask, Just tell me you burned 622 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: tires in your yard every afternoon exactly. 623 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 2: I got a tire fire going keeps my hands warm. 624 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: Katie Green are esteemed to us. 625 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Woman. 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