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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, March

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Speaker 1: thirty one, J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Os, You're busy,

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Speaker 1: show ahead, Urban Meyer finally saying it. Trevor Lawrence Wild

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Speaker 1: trades in the top ten of the draft behind the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: What now since Tyson a la Lalu decided to go

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Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh. Will dissect some prospects and a couple

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Speaker 1: of positions and get some social media questions as well.

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, John Oser with us. Now we are in,

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Speaker 1: as always three different places. Today we're in three really

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Speaker 1: different places as we record this podcast. I'm at home,

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Speaker 1: John is away, Bucky is somewhere else. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot going on today, Bucky, Yeah, we do have a

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Speaker 1: lot going on. I thought, look, I thought this would

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Speaker 1: be fun. J. I thought we would have a different

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Speaker 1: experience with us being, you know, not not together. One

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Speaker 1: day we'll be able to take the podcast together. But

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Speaker 1: little route on the four or five where we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Well, don't look at the camera. Just keep your

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Speaker 1: eighes focused on the road, Bucky, please, goodness six. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what California law is, John, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like we're right on the borderline. You know where we'll

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Speaker 1: do the next podcast, jig evidently wherever Bucky wants to

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Speaker 1: do the next podcast, all right, because it's his podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're just living in it. Well, I'm thinking maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a yacht somewhere out there off of Jack, you

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Speaker 1: know that maybe we can bench you man, if we

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Speaker 1: can kind of do some different things stuff that would

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Speaker 1: be something Bucky, if you could pull that straight for us,

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Speaker 1: will do it. Coach Meyer kind of came on board

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Speaker 1: to look. Conversation on the yacht, conversation on the yacht,

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Speaker 1: get it done. Never it never hurts, I'll say that.

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Give us five stars

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Speaker 1: and some comments. Let's start with the news of this

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Speaker 1: week in the NFL. The annual meeting held virtually one

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Speaker 1: of them. There will be others coming up in the

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Speaker 1: off season. For the owner is voting Tuesday to add

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Speaker 1: a seventeenth regular season game, three preseason games. They'll match

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Speaker 1: the division from the other conference, the same place team

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Speaker 1: in the finish and the standings the year before. So

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars add the Atlanta Falcons at t I A.

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Speaker 1: Bank Field this year as the seventeenth game, not in order.

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Speaker 1: They'll figure out the schedule a little later. There's also

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Speaker 1: an international rotation starting in two If the Jaguars have

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Speaker 1: a separate agreement, it would be on top of the

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Speaker 1: four games the league will put on an international markets.

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Speaker 1: And here we go, Bucky's seventeen and three. How you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm okay with that. Um, I think we

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Speaker 1: have a definite divide between winners and losers. That's always fun.

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Speaker 1: Either you have a winning record or you have a

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Speaker 1: losing record. So we'll get a chance to see that.

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Speaker 1: It changes some of dynamics a little bit when we

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Speaker 1: think about the team building process in terms of your

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Speaker 1: three freak season games. Man, you better hit the ground

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Speaker 1: running or you won't be on the final roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know how I feel, JP. I don't like it,

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Speaker 1: but I also wish they were still playing twelve games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think seventeen too many. I was fine with fourteens

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Speaker 1: seventeen Okay, fine, they're doing it, But I'm with Bucky.

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Speaker 1: I I guess I'm just old school and I've talked

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Speaker 1: too many personnel people over the years. I think four

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Speaker 1: but for players making rosters, I do believe there is

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Speaker 1: so throwback bucks from John there. I think the ultimate throwback.

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Speaker 1: actually like John. I think actually we'll see a better

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Speaker 1: think they ought to go the way I just said it.

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Speaker 1: I think they ought to go with one through sixteen

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Speaker 1: meaning the top seed in first conference play the top

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Speaker 1: seed in the other conference. That's the way they ought

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Speaker 1: to do it. I said it, and again, stay off

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Speaker 1: my lawn. But someone that's coming in feisty like like

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Speaker 1: late late, late, late night is a different guy. You

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Speaker 1: get me. You think I'm a different guy late night JP,

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Speaker 1: late night at Beats one night and they see a

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Speaker 1: different game. We could do some late night podcast booking.

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Speaker 1: We could have some fun. Actually, I want to make

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Speaker 1: He spoke on Tuesday and mentioned Germany as a possibility

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Speaker 1: they're starting to it feels like expand that international series. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Huddle Up Podcast, JP Shadrick, John Osier, Bucky Brooks, and

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer speaking with Peter King this week. We've all

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Speaker 1: heard the comments, We've seen the video most likely, we've

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Speaker 1: certainly read the article from Peter King on Pro Football Talk. Well,

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Speaker 1: he finally said it, almost said it all the way.

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Speaker 1: He said, we're going in that direction. Trevor Lawrence sounds

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Speaker 1: of saw this coming, John, but it's about that time,

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Speaker 1: it's a month away from the draft, when urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: which I believe I believe we'll post on later today JP.

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Speaker 1: coverage on Jaguars dot Com. It's really our big offseason focus.

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Speaker 1: thing on Move the Sticks called the three sixty series where, um,

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Speaker 1: is saying something because it's always been the most important position.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about teams now who make Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls with quarterbacks such as Garoppolo and then turn around

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Speaker 1: and give up their franchise for the position again. And

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Speaker 1: we've never seen the dramatic moves at the position as

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Speaker 1: we've seen the last two or three years. So it's

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Speaker 1: not only the fact that there's an unbelievable quarterback class

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Speaker 1: right now, it's that people are willing to give up

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Speaker 1: so much more of the rest of their team to

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Speaker 1: get that position right that in a quarterback league, and

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Speaker 1: it's been a quarterback the league since I've covered it,

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Speaker 1: which is long before that, it has never been more

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Speaker 1: of a quarterback league than it is right now, and

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Speaker 1: teams are absolutely desperate to fill the position. And the

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Speaker 1: premise for me talking to Peter about it is how

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Speaker 1: fortunate of the Jaguars in this quarterbacks crazy league where

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Speaker 1: it's on steroids to have a situation where they don't

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Speaker 1: have to make moves to get one who knows whether

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Speaker 1: it's going to work out, but if it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 1: they have a mortgaged their future to do it. Well,

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Speaker 1: there are teams right now that if these moves don't

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Speaker 1: work out, not only do they have the quarterback, but

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Speaker 1: they don't have any draft capital either. This is insane

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Speaker 1: what's going on right now. Compared to what's going on

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Speaker 1: historically at this position. Oh, I love it, John, I

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Speaker 1: love it because now we're we're playing fantasy football, and

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Speaker 1: we also are no longer treating the quarterbacks endangered species

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Speaker 1: before because the guy was the QB one. Regardless of

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Speaker 1: how good he was, and if you really believe that

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Speaker 1: he could get you to the Super Bowl, he had

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Speaker 1: like a tenure run at the position because he was

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. And now what we're seeing general managers are

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Speaker 1: moving off quarterbacks that they don't believe are special. And

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Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things that have

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Speaker 1: happened that have led us to this point. One the

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes deal. I don't want to make Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 1: out to be more than he is, but I think

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Speaker 1: what has happened is people have been on the field

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Speaker 1: and they've seen the special talent that Pat Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: and they're saying, if we're going to win a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to knock that kind of talent off,

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Speaker 1: potentially in a shootout. The other thing, we are seeing

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Speaker 1: guys that are coming out of the Shanahan tree. They're

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Speaker 1: looking at Matt la Flu and they're looking at all

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Speaker 1: the fund that he had with Aaron Rodgers and how

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Speaker 1: and Rodgers made those plays come to life, and they're

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Speaker 1: looking at their own quarterbacks and they're not happy that

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Speaker 1: they're I can't make the play look like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has been able to make it look from la floor.

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Speaker 1: So you have Sean McVeigh, who's the Shanahanda Ciber that

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Speaker 1: is looking at Jerry Golf who took him to a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and say, yeah, that's nice, but that's not

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Speaker 1: good enough. I want more. You've seen Jim mcgaroppolo and

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Speaker 1: Cal Shanahan who's in the Super Bowl winning in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and he's saying, yeah, that's great. I called

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Speaker 1: a perfect game. Man. It seems are like, no, no no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get a special one. And I don't

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Speaker 1: care what I give up to get him, because if

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Speaker 1: I find him, he changes everything within the franchise. This

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Speaker 1: Brooks is on. It was on the four oh five

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Bucky, give us an idea of where

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Speaker 1: you are now as we record this podcast and play

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Speaker 1: by play if you will, sir. Okay, So I just

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Speaker 1: jumped out the four or five. I'm now on the

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Speaker 1: one on one and I'm making my way home, so

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Speaker 1: I'm almost there. Like it was, it was very nice.

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Speaker 1: Traffic wasn't as bad as it normally is. It's always

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Speaker 1: it's been enjoyable being able to talk to my guys

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Speaker 1: and drive like it. It's good. Glad we can help

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Speaker 1: your commute, Bucky, whatever we can do to help you

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Speaker 1: will do just that for you. Here. Let's move along now, guys,

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Speaker 1: we've already kind of discussed the change of heart for

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Speaker 1: Tyson Aloo. Of course, the story has been well hold

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Speaker 1: by now. He contracted COVID apparently, and had to stay

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Speaker 1: where he was and couldn't come for the physical and

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Speaker 1: to sign the contract, had a change of heart, went

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Speaker 1: back to the Steelers. So the question now is do

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have to go out and do something else

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Speaker 1: to fill that spot? John are are are you comfortable

519
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Speaker 1: waiting until the draft to fill whatever role that was

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Speaker 1: going to be for Tyson? Well, I'm guessing that whether

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Speaker 1: I'm comfortable or not, they will wait until the draft.

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Speaker 1: They went back and they resigned Gods, which makes sense

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Speaker 1: for a if it's not a placeholder, it's a guy

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Speaker 1: that showed last year he can play. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's pro bowler Adam Gods, as he can play.

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Speaker 1: He was productive. I think the thing to remember is

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Speaker 1: the off season isn't over now, and it won't be

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Speaker 1: over after the draft, and you're gonna see some moves.

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Speaker 1: I would think this year maybe a couple of more

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Speaker 1: than you would normally see you because of the salary

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Speaker 1: cap around the June for State. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: that this is over yet. But I also don't know

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Speaker 1: that you necessarily want to reach and pay a guy

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Speaker 1: over his value just because of what happened with Tyson.

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Speaker 1: I think Tyson's a blow. I think that hurts because

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Speaker 1: I liked how he was gonna fit in this and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Joe Colin really liked how he's gonna fit

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Speaker 1: Joe and had him. So I'm not gonna diminish what

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Speaker 1: they lost there. But I don't know that you necessarily

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Speaker 1: go out before the draft and overspend, see what happens

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Speaker 1: in the draft, and then see what happens the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year in free agent. The off season is

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Speaker 1: not over yet. We think, yeah, the off season isn't over.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that you lose, though, is a

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Speaker 1: guy that you know. Uh. That was really a theme

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Speaker 1: of the off season when it came to the signings.

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Speaker 1: Most of the coaches knew the guys that they were

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Speaker 1: bringing into the position room, and so from a cultural standpoint,

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Speaker 1: you felt like you had a group of guys that

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Speaker 1: were coming in that kind of always under already understood

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Speaker 1: the expectations in terms of performance and culturally how we

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Speaker 1: wanted things to go and so what changes a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I think they will be able to find a

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Speaker 1: veteran in the bargain basement been right after the draft

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Speaker 1: if they're unable to secure the services of a young

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Speaker 1: guy doing the draft. But what you don't want to do? JP? Okay,

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Speaker 1: yes they wanted Tyson, and I don't think anybody would

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Speaker 1: tell you it would be disingenuous say they didn't because

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Speaker 1: they went out and signed it. But don't compound that

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Speaker 1: loss by going out and doing something silly just because

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Speaker 1: you lost. Make sure that whatever you do fits value,

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Speaker 1: fits with because you don't want to sign a guy

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Speaker 1: overpay a guy and mess up your cat moving forward

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Speaker 1: because this is still a process. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: so make a smart decision. Don't react basic because you

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Speaker 1: didn't get the records you want. Don't go out and

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Speaker 1: buy a triple album. It's not very good, good point

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Speaker 1: where to go. Let's move along here on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: JP Shatrick, John osre and but the vinyl reference buck

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Speaker 1: for you, l a guy, you're probably driving by Capitol

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Speaker 1: Records right out. That's a vinyl. I mean, I got it,

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Speaker 1: I got it. So much, I mean so much that

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Speaker 1: we're adding to the podcast like this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is phenomenal. John. You're you're on your game today.

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Speaker 1: You're on the one on one Bucky? Are you is

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Speaker 1: that near Burbank? Where are you right now? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: you can take it one way to go towards Burbank.

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Speaker 1: I am going away for that, like I'm going away.

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Speaker 1: Like the way that I'm going is past in sin

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Speaker 1: and with the hills and Calabasas, almost as if we're

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Speaker 1: heading to the Rams. Thank you for the geography lesson.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that. In Los Angeles. Let's move along now.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were gonna introduce what we bring all

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Speaker 1: these different segments in here, but this is where I

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Speaker 1: think Bucky is really going to shine, but not to

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Speaker 1: he has already, you know, at just throwing it out there.

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Speaker 1: Prospect comparison discussion. And I've picked two from two different

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Speaker 1: position groups that are coming up in the draft this year,

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Speaker 1: running back and defensive backs actually safeties. Uh you know

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Speaker 1: running back, there's the school thought you don't want to

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Speaker 1: take one of the first round. If you asked Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: hell no, you wouldn't do it. In the first round.

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Speaker 1: But there's some big time names there of course that

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Speaker 1: could go early. Not the Jaguars really need to do that,

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Speaker 1: but there are big names there. Naja Harris of Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Travis Eti, n of Clemson, Bucky. Where are you on

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Speaker 1: each of these guys and would you compare them for us? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I like both of those guys. I like Naja Harris

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Speaker 1: a little more than at the end. Naja Harris to me,

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Speaker 1: is really a rare fun because you just don't find

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Speaker 1: big guys who can do what he does with the

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Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Not only is an inside runner,

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Speaker 1: but his ability to make plays in the passing end

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Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Matt Forte when Matt Forte

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Speaker 1: was in his prime with the Chicago Boberts. Travis Antienne

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Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of Jamal Charles when he

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Speaker 1: was kind of racking up Pro Bowl honors with the

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Speaker 1: Kan City Chiefs. He has terrific speed and quickness. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's a one cup runner, so you're not gonna see

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Speaker 1: a lot of wiggle, a lot of dance. But man,

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Speaker 1: when he puts his foot on the ground on the

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Speaker 1: spots increase he can take at the distance. He is

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Speaker 1: not as natural a pass catcher as NJ, but he's

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Speaker 1: effective in the passing game. And once again, if you

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Speaker 1: can get him in the open field and let him

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Speaker 1: go one on one with guys, he is going to

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Speaker 1: put the ball into bank. I go way back with

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Speaker 1: Pete JP and I I agree with him on the

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Speaker 1: first half of the first round. On a running back,

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Speaker 1: I don't mind it late because a lot of times

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Speaker 1: you're late first round guy is a lot of times

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Speaker 1: a second round guy. In reality, the first rounders are

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Speaker 1: not all created equal. Pick is not the fourth pick.

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Speaker 1: So I don't mind running back if you think it's

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Speaker 1: impactful and special and if you think you're getting five

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Speaker 1: years of special out of a guy that I'm finally

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Speaker 1: taking running back as long as not in the top half.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious about Bucky. You're a guy from North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have him now with these top

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Speaker 1: two guys, same thing, same guys. Vat Williams is a

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Speaker 1: beast because they're two has. There's Javonton Williams and Michael Carter,

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Speaker 1: and Javonton Williams is as aggressive as they come with

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. He's a high school linebacker

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Speaker 1: who's also a valedictorian. So he is smart, he's tough,

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Speaker 1: he's physical, not the fastest, but man, when he gets it,

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Speaker 1: he punishes guys in a way. When I look at him,

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Speaker 1: he's not quite Frank Gore, but he has that ability

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Speaker 1: to play like that at the next level, meaning he's rugged,

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00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: he's durable. He can put up those triple digits as

640
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: a rusher, but he also catches the ball well out

641
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: of the backfield when you go all the way back.

642
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to envision frame Board now because he's I mean,

643
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: seventeen year in the league. But the guy that was

644
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: four or five years in the league death Frank Board.

645
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: Javonton Williams has some of that in his game. He

646
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: loves the tar heels, loves the tar heel guys always

647
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: loves the tar heel guys. It's uh, it's Bucky Brooks

648
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: for you. Let's move along, kidding of course, the safeties,

649
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, and that's a shouldn't Bucky where in your

650
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: last mock draft, I think two point oh you have

651
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at taking Trevan Moregg of TCU. So I'm

652
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna get you to compare him with a guy who

653
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: his name is starting to pop up a lot now,

654
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: Richie Grant, Central Florida. What do you know about those guys?

655
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: Two really good players. Mary is is a guy like

656
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: coming out of TCU. The way they play him. He

657
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: plays a lot of man coverage over slide defenders. He

658
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: has great man to man cover skills for a guy

659
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: that is a safety. Uh. He plays almost like a corner.

660
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: But he also has the ability to play tough and physical. Uh.

661
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: He can get around a line of scrimmage and make

662
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: a lot of plays. You know, it's really really hard

663
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: to find a true comparison. I would say, maybe, uh,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Byard who's kind of in our division uh at Tennessee,

665
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: who made a lot of players on the ball. He

666
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: has some of that in his game. Doesn't have as

667
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: many interception but he certainly is impactful in the passing game.

668
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: Richie Uran is another one of those guys, not as

669
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: big but active, really flies around and it makes a

670
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: lot of things happen at that position. Um. Not quite

671
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: the banger that I would say Mary gives in terms

672
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: of attacking, but instincts, awareness, ball skills. You like that,

673
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, in a way I would kind of put

674
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: him into Eric Weddle category. Not quite the ball hawk,

675
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: but Eric Weddle had the ability to do a lot

676
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: of things and you just kind of look up at

677
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: the ball finds him. I think Richie Grant has a

678
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: little bit of that to a game. I have a

679
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: question for the scout JP. I've asked you this on

680
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball about tight end for Bucky.

681
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: It strikes me, is safety meaning really really good safety

682
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: the guy that matters? Is it? Just? Are we asking

683
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: too much of this position now? Is it too hard

684
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: to play to find a truly great player at safety?

685
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: Or have I just not covered great players it's safety

686
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: since Bob Sanders back into day. Because I think it

687
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: just seems really hard to find and you're asking so

688
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: much to have a guy who can who can slam

689
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: the run and cover backs and do the cover's responsibilities.

690
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's that many on the planet you

691
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: can do it. They're not that many on the planet.

692
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: You're right, is a very very difficult position to find

693
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: guys who can can get it done because you're asking

694
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: them depending on the scheme that you play, you're asking

695
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: them to cover like corners. You want them to come

696
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: in the box to hit light linebackers. You want them

697
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: to have a high i Q so they can line

698
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: up the defense almost like the mic linebacker. Hard to

699
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: find guys that can do it. I think what we're

700
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: seeing the league has evolved to where you have specialists

701
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: and you build the defense around the special qualities that

702
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: the safety has. So for instance, Jamal Adams in Seattle, now, uh,

703
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily a great cover guy, but he is so

704
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: disruptive around the line of scrimmers. So what they do

705
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: is they'll use them a quasi linebacker who is also

706
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: a pastoris. We saw him have seven or eight stacks

707
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: off the edge. There are other guys that are kind

708
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: of like the ornament on the top of the Christmas tree,

709
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: that are center field players that can prevent the balls

710
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: from flying over the top of the defense, and they

711
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: make their plays that way. You don't want those guys

712
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: to be active in a line of scrimmage, but if

713
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: you're a team just trying to play a lot of

714
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: Cover three and keep the ball in front of the defense,

715
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: those guys are necessary. And so a lot of the

716
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: job description is about how you play and can you

717
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: clearly identify what it is that you need for your

718
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: scheme to thrive. You have a couple of comparisons of

719
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: the running backs and safety, some notable names coming up

720
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft. Let's get a couple of social

721
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: media questions in and let's start off today with at

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: evan Off Joel, do you see Josh Allen as a

723
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: true left end or will he improve by playing in

724
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker role. That's the big question, right what

725
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: will the Jags play? Everybody has a three four four

726
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: three this and then they're gonna do everything. We've already

727
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: said that. Where could could Josh Allen really thrive? Standing

728
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: up again? Stand up? But a lot of it depends

729
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. I think the first thing that you

730
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: do when you're calling this, you go to Josh Allen.

731
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: You ask him, what do you feel like is your

732
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: best stance when it comes to Russian the past. Some

733
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: guys like being in an upright stands two point stance.

734
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Other guys like having their hand in the dirt so

735
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: they can get off as as a sprinter um and

736
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: attract me. I think for Josh Allen, what we know

737
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: is seven percent of the time the Jaguars will be

738
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: in some form of a nickel package where they have

739
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: a four down line, they'll get after the quarterback and

740
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: he is going to be in one of those spots.

741
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: The trick will be is he a guy that only

742
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: plays one or is he versatile enough to do multiple

743
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: things at the line of scrimlege to take advantage of mismatches.

744
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a special player as a pass fresher.

745
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: You want to give him his best strands to be successful.

746
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it is a cooperation

747
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: between what you want to do scheme wise and what

748
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: he does at his best. Yeah, JP, I think he

749
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: can do both. There's been a lot of theories that, oh,

750
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: he can't do it without Calais on the other side,

751
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: because he did that as a rookie, I've heard theories, well,

752
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: he he'll be better in a three four. Look, he didn't.

753
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: He wasn't as productive as he wanted to be last year.

754
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: I think for him last year was a lost year.

755
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: I think for the whole team it just sort of

756
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: got out of whack quickly. I think Josh Allen is

757
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: going to be special in this league. Whether he has

758
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: his hand on the ground or not. My guess is

759
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: he will have his hand off the ground more now,

760
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: so it will be credited to three four. But I

761
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: think he is special, elite and that once things get

762
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: going right, he's gonna be a huge part of that.

763
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: So to me, put him wherever, he'll be fine. And

764
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be von Miller type good. I

765
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: still believe that out of him. So so we'll see.

766
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: And I guess what I mean by that. I don't

767
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: know if he's von Miller level, but I think he

768
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: can be as important to this defense as a von

769
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: Miller was to Denver in terms of being a guy

770
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: you can build around. So yeah, I will say it's

771
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: von Miller. He just said it. Heard it. I mean,

772
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, man, you don't double it. I don't disagree,

773
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: because the von Miller that we're talking about was a

774
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: guy that for John Fox in Denver, he played in

775
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: the three four. He was that edge player. Uh he

776
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: did play left defensive end and took advantage of right tackles.

777
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: That is the move potentially for Josh Allen a lot

778
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: of times and yesteryear, teams will put their best pass

779
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: rusher at right defensive end against the left tackle the

780
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: quarterback's blind side. Well, now, We're seeing more guys put

781
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: it on the front side so the quarterback can see

782
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: and feel the pressure right in front of his face.

783
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: Most of the time, when you have a guy at

784
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: left defensive vand he's going against an inferior pass protector

785
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: at right tackle, maybe they can find a way to

786
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: do that to jump start Josh Allen as a ten

787
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: to twelve sack guy per season. Our next question from

788
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: at Denton Thomas, and this is a long one. I'm

789
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna really kind of cut this one down a little

790
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: bit as we get closer to the draft. Who do

791
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: you draft three and forty five and one and in

792
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: what order? So he's got he's got two guys per

793
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: position here, so we're just gonna go position tight end,

794
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver, edge rusher, safety or is there a position

795
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: group that he left out? Just quickly, you know, John,

796
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: what do you think? Is there an order or whatever

797
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: is available for you? They worked hard to hit themselves

798
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: up for that, and if it's me, I'm more and

799
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: more like the idea of safety. I think I'm getting

800
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: a question right safety and biggest impact skill guy at

801
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: thirty three, And i know I'm not mentioning tight end there,

802
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: but safety to me, feels like you can get it

803
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: fixed there with more I like the idea of that

804
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: guy and then maybe skill position next. But I don't

805
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do with that spot. You know,

806
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: at some points, a couple of things you've got to

807
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: get fixed. Draft the best available down there. To me,

808
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: Bucky wins the seven round mock coming, Oh that's not coming.

809
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: That's way too much. We too much. We're trying to

810
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: predict who's gonna take it. And I mean it's a

811
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: good it's a good opportunity to get some names out,

812
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: but oh no, no, no, somebody else needs to do that.

813
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Heavy lifted. Who did Jaguars taking in the fifth round? John? Okay? Whatever?

814
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: Hey John, I do like your theory though, like, uh,

815
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: safety at coming back? Get a playmaker uh in the

816
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: second round? Maybe the best pass catcher that you can

817
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: find um tied in, preferably someone that can do it

818
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: a little differently. It would be nice to be able

819
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: to create mismatches on the perimeter, but I would be

820
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: good with Pat Faremouth or a guy like Hunter Long

821
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: from Boston College that can catch it. If you go

822
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: in those later rounds, like in the third round and

823
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: those things you dealing with a different deal with a

824
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: different type. Let's got one final question in and you know,

825
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of news on Tuesday about the International

826
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Series game starting in and be on and the entire

827
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: league will have to rotate through games internationally at that time.

828
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: But the question here is from at PS Duffy. No

829
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: word on international games in question, mark, I guess that

830
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: makes it a question well as of right now. No, right, um,

831
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: so there's not anything for yet. The schedule sounds like

832
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be out early May, so you would think

833
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: that a week or two maybe prior to that, you

834
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: might hear something substantial about that, whether it's announced publicly

835
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: or not. Teams that would be involved have to start

836
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: getting preparations ready. From the Jags perspective, they do not

837
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: have a deal in place with Wembley Stadium, but that's

838
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: still so early. We don't know anything yet. And that's

839
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: even if they have games. That's the other part that

840
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: they haven't decided. With COVID and everything going on, what's

841
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: that going to look like? So it may not even

842
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: really happen this year. That's still up in the air

843
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: as well. You know, we say it like this, everybody

844
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: to say, why why don't you just answer the question? Well? Sometimes,

845
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes the question can't get answered because you

846
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know the facts, and this is absolutely one of those.

847
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't any questions. Have made it known for years.

848
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: They like the idea of playing a game and lone.

849
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: I think it's it's their preference. They want to play

850
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: one there for a lot of different reasons. But because

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Speaker 1: of COVID, we don't know how that's going to play

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Speaker 1: out logistically yet. We know if they're going to be

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Speaker 1: allowed to We don't know all the London things. So

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Speaker 1: I think all the Jaguars people would say, hey, we

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Speaker 1: would love to know the answer to this question. We

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Speaker 1: don't know it yet. I think back to COVID last

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Speaker 1: year and it first started. There are all kinds of

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Speaker 1: questions people don't know the answers to yet. I think

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Speaker 1: this is still one that you don't know the answer

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Speaker 1: to yet. Yeah, but maybe maybe soon we'll find out

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Speaker 1: one way or another. Bucky, you have been commuting this

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Speaker 1: entire podcast. We've come to a conclusion here on the pod.

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Speaker 1: How far are you from a conclusion of your commute? Well, JP,

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Speaker 1: I am going to uh my high school football practice.

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Speaker 1: So I am maybe five minutes away from stepping into

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Speaker 1: Granada Hills Charter High School, and so I've made it.

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Speaker 1: I had just he's driving so long. I thought maybe

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Speaker 1: he just decided to leave it all behind. He had

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Speaker 1: gotten he had gotten in his car after an interview

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Speaker 1: and just said, you know what, I'm heading east until

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Speaker 1: I arrived somewhere. I thought maybe we were seeing the

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Speaker 1: beginning of a new life. Yeah, just leave it all behind.

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Speaker 1: I'm just it's gonna drive one bag. Yeah, pack it up,

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Speaker 1: one bag and make it happen. But yeah, j P,

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Speaker 1: that's the I mean, actually, this was like, this is

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Speaker 1: the one hour commute, like I used to make it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I used to make that commute when

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Speaker 1: I was playing in Jacksonville though, Like I felt like

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Speaker 1: when I was coming from there, you got to get

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Speaker 1: to the bridge to get to the stadium and all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't, if you don't hit the timing right.

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Speaker 1: It took me back to my dad may try and

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Speaker 1: now trying to commute. That's what happens when you live

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Speaker 1: beach front in Jacksonville. Takes a long time to get downtown.

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Speaker 1: I mean it really, you know, gosh, I wish, I

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Speaker 1: wish I was smart enough to know to live down

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Speaker 1: there Jack's Beach and all those other beaches down their way.

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Speaker 1: Like if I could turn back the clock, I probably

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Speaker 1: would have done that and put my toes in the

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Speaker 1: sand a couple of times a week to make sure

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Speaker 1: I was relaxed when Coach Colson was yelling at everybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, d j P. That's the difference right there, Bucky. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: that beach front means owning a house. You and I

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Speaker 1: both know it's only a sleeping bag and sleeping under

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Speaker 1: the dock for us, but for players, it's a different world,

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Speaker 1: always has all right, that'll do it for the Huddle

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Speaker 1: Up Podcast. Pro Day season continues, Bucky. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: got a lot coming up this week. It's been a

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Speaker 1: it's been a crazy time, but it's coming to a conclusion.

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Speaker 1: This is the fun part, JP, because now, like with

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Speaker 1: all the Pro Days wrapping up, we now just get

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Speaker 1: to talk about it for another month before you know it, Man,

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Speaker 1: the draft of be here here it is. John. You

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Speaker 1: got Peter King on your podcast. Yeah, Peter King looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it, and uh should have some more of

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Speaker 1: his own podcast in the coming weeks, hoping to catch

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Speaker 1: up with some coaches, hoping to get to know the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff a little better into material the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. We're looking forward to that as well well. Bucky,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your number of retirement ceremony at your high school.

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Speaker 1: And John, we will talk to you a little bit

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Speaker 1: later today. That's John Osier, Bucky Brooks. I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get download your podcast. Give us five

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Speaker 1: stars in a comment. We will catch you next week

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Speaker 1: on the Huddle Up Podcast