WEBVTT - The Marvels is Good Actually 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:15.920 Hello. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.640 My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosy Night, and 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.119 welcome to a bite sized episode of X ray Vision, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.160 the podcast where we dive deep it's your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:28.040 and pop culture. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.839 In today's episode, we're stepping into that space X Men 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:33.880 ship air. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.239 Lock to talk the Marvels. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.239 It took us too long break, but it's good and 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.480 I'm glad everyone else is realizing it's good and we're 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.400 excited to talk about this good movie. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:44.919 So next up the Marvels. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.760 We meet in the opening of this film, Darben, the 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:55.000 Kreese new very very militant leader, as she discovers a 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.600 quantum band on some desolate planet somewhere. The band, which 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.280 of course we have seen before in the Disney Plus 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:04.800 television program Mis. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.959 Marvel An, a very good program. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:11.600 Another very wonderful program, allows Darman to open connection points 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:15.000 portals in space time, and she plans to use these 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.920 openings to revitalize the Cree home world, which has been 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.560 all kinds of fucked up ever since Carol made the 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:34.720 manifestly unwise, probably criminal decision to carry out a decapitation 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.720 attack on the Cree government, killing off the Supreme Intelligence 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:49.280 causing a wide Cree civil war and just devastating ecological, political, 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:54.320 and economic collapse across the Cree systems. It's bad. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.520 It's bad and also like maybe genocidal to the point 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:58.320 of the Gamin. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.360 Bad choice. You need to pay for your crimes. I'm sorry. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.880 I really think you should have at least checked in 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:14.520 with somebody. Conversation one one one question Marina, see what 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.200 she thought? You know, I just think it's it was. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:23.880 It was a bad move. Dar Ben's portals destabilize the 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.440 the ancient interspace. We'll call it the Highway network, but 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:32.000 there's the the connection of interspace portals that allows fast 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.880 travel throughout the universe. Nick Fury now in charge of 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.160 the Saber Space Station. That's where he's been, as we saw, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.680 just hide and just chilling out as we saw in 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:48.360 the in the in the bad sadly the. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:54.959 Bad secret vasion. It was bad, secret vasion, painful. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.280 Asks our friend Monica Rambo and also our friend Carol 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.200 Danvers to check this out. What's going on hijinkson Sue 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.720 and Monica, Carol and our good friend Kamala Khan. Yes, 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.160 home in Jersey City after the events of Miss Marvel 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.160 discover that using their respective powers causes them to switch 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.239 places wherever they are in space. This was actually really 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:17.160 fun and I enjoyed this. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:17.640 They did. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.079 They enjoyed just fun job. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.640 And also this adds like so many fun chances to 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.880 do incredible action sequences. Yes, we get such good action 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:33.280 sequences with this. It's a nice fun kind of call 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.760 back to the Rick Jones storyline that we talked about 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.160 that was kind of like this the Marvel plot line. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.120 So there's there's a lot of fun to be had here, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.240 and I just those three are so joyous together. And 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.760 I had some issues with the first Captain Marvel movie. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:52.240 I didn't necessarily love Carol's characterization, but I think here 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.040 this is like how doctor Strange was reimagined post to 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.680 Scott Derekson movie. Like this is a huge change. It's 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.560 a Thor Ragnarok kind of change where we get to 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.320 see Caro having fun, She's on the space station, she's 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:08.400 with her cats. Like it's just a delightful expansion of 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.480 the character that allows he to have a little bit. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:16.479 Of fun despite the quantum intertwining of our three heroes 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:21.039 that causes, you know, unexpected and chaotic effects. They do 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.600 manage to fight off a Cree strikeforce sent to New 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:29.719 Jersey to the Khan family home to obtain Kamala's Bengal, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:34.880 the other quantum band that Darban is so so dedicated 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.240 to finding. Darben opens a portal above Tarnack's home to 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:43.560 a population of Scroll refugees in order to steal their wonderful, 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:48.200 clean mountain air for the Cree home world. Our trio 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:52.920 of heroes managed to evacuate most, but certainly not all, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.720 of the population, and Kamala is heartbroken that they could 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.120 not accomplish that. Carol has to tell her, listen, save 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.640 what you can save who you can save, and but 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.640 she does save for later that this is all her fault. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.279 She's holding on to that little tidbit right now. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.640 She needs to be coming clean about that, because I 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.960 feel like I love this movie. I thought it was 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.159 so much fun, But I do feel like Carol doesn't 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.839 necessarily get held up for crimes in the way she 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.280 probably should have it. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.960 I completely agree. Carol is particularly heartbroken because she helped 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:34.680 found this colony on tarn X, though kind of stiffing 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:40.240 the Skrull on her promise to actually find them a 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:45.039 real homeworld. Anyway, our heroes realize Darbin went to Tarnas 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.599 in order to punish Carol personally for her crimes against 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.880 the Creed. It's not just she's picking planets that have 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:57.440 resources that the cree need. She's picking planets that Carol likes, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.640 has connections to, has connections to the people's there, because 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.400 she specifically wants to hurt Carol. Meanwhile, Monica needs a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:10.200 code name, and the trio itself needs a name, despite 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.159 the fact that only Kamala agrees that they are a team. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.039 In general, there is a lot of fun to be 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.400 had in if you love Easter Eggs, they have a 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.039 lot of fun with Kamala basically just choosing all the 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.000 different names, and Monica kind of shoots down a lot 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.279 of the cannon comic names. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:26.960 It's really fun. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.320 I mean, especially like Monica and Kamala together are just 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.200 so great, Like I really hope we see more of them. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:39.599 Yeah, there's the the hero worship between Kamala and Carol, 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.680 and then also like the unexpected chemistry between Monica and Kall. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.239 It's really fun. Okay, so we got clean air. Great 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.360 shouts to Tarnack's We're done. Now, what do you need 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.279 we need clean water. That rings a bell for Carol, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.200 who just so happens, woman of many secrets, to be 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.600 secretly married to Prince Johan, the leader of Aladna, a 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.840 planet almost one hundred percent covered by wonderful, fresh, sparkling 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:15.200 water where everyone communicates via song and dance. Lovely to visit. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.640 Alada Disney see Disney Dance Princess sequence. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.600 It's so good. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.480 So we get a big fight on Alattna with our 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.960 trio and Prince John's forces battling the creed. Dar manages 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.960 to open the portal to suck out the water, and 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.320 unfortunately our heroes can't do much about it. They jump 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.480 away from Alatna with dar Ben right on their six. Carol, 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:46.720 now desperate because she could not save her husband's planetlit 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.960 it's a political marriage, but still that Alatna. We never 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.640 go back there, but I would expect that it's devastated. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:58.800 Now admits that her ill considered attack on the Supreme 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.360 Intelligence is the reason this is happening, and this is 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.760 all her fault. And because of this conversation, they realize, Okay, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:11.040 water down, air down, need that sunlight next. That can 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:16.720 only mean the beautiful, sweet, juicy Earth sun just sitting 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.320 there in the middle of the solar systems. I got 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:24.760 shining mango beautiful. We need that sunlight, says Darban. Meanwhile, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.840 things on Saber are deteriorating because of the destabilization of 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.240 the portals, and the space station is coming apart at 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.200 the seams, which is bad because we like Fury kind of, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.600 But also Kama's family is also on the space station, 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.720 and that's a big deal. Fury manages to evacuate everyone 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.199 on the space despite them only having one escape pod, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:56.160 by having the entire populated. It's great. This is one 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.359 of the great great secrets horror. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.720 Sequences in all of Marvel. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.920 He basically has all the crew eaten by fluckins and 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.079 then puts all the fluckins into one escapeboard okay, an 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:07.120 escapeboard of cats. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.120 But the way they shoot it is just people. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.200 Running away, screaming from these aliens, trying not to get 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.280 eaten by cute cats with giant tongues. So ten out 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.600 of ten fantastic sequence. I think that's up there with 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.440 one of the best sequences in the MCU. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.559 Absolutely, and it's all set to memory reprise, Yes, the 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:33.960 cat iconic song from Cats. The musical bab uh just 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.760 an incredible an incredible sequence. The Marvels confront Darben on 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.480 her ship. We get a big fight. Darben ends up 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.240 impaled by a piece of the deck and the Marvels 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.920 try to talk her out of this mission of destruction. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.520 Monica makes an offer. Okay, what about this, Darbin. I 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.079 understand that this is weird to be making a deal 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.040 right now while you're impaled, But what if Carol uses 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.600 her powers to restart the Kree Sun? Would that do it? 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.200 And Carol kind of like makes this kind of pulls 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.680 on the heartstrings a little bit like, let's you know, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.800 peace and enough and I'm so sorry about everything that happened, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.160 and it seems like it's a done deal. She frees Darben, 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:22.120 who immediately goes back on the perceived deal, steals the 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:27.320 other band off of Kamala, and then flies out to 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.680 fire up both bands and do this big sun stealing 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.200 portal thing. But then she disintegrates because it's just too 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.679 much power. She doesn't know how to use it. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.920 Rip Dolben, Rip Darben. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.480 I disagree with your actions, but I get the anger, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.559 and I think it's justified. We should also. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.319 Mention that Carol is so hated that they call her the. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.320 Annihilate, like she is seen as like a genocidal villain. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.120 So dar Been, I feel like, is more of a 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:59.000 resistance fight everything, even if methods are. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.760 Not great, and I just completely I feel like, Monica, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.640 could you not have come up with this plan earlier? 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.200 And like stop the wall? I feel like, I feel like, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.319 come on, yeah. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.960 Just come on, guys, just fix the sun already. And that, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.560 by the way, doesn't even solve the water and air 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:25.559 problem anyway, So Darban is out. This explosion also disentangles 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.040 the Marvels, not officially their name, but we're gonna call. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.480 Them, Yeah, we love that name Kamala. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.400 Then they come up with a plan. Kamala uses both 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:39.560 bands and Carol using her powers herself. They fire just 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.600 huge blasts of energy at Monica, who absorbs them and 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.679 then goes over to the portals to close them using 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.360 this energy, But she has to really remain in the 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.960 aperture of the portal for the whole She can't just 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.320 like pop out Tony Stark in Marvels the Avenger style, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.040 and so she ends up closed behind the portal wall 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:07.520 in another dimension. But Earth is saved Tarnack's sorry about it. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.680 Sorry bro, Sorry bros. We can't figure it out in time. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:12.680 But Earth is fine. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.800 Look, let's we're gonna talk about this because one of 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.640 the most hilarious. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.240 Like not necessarily a plot hole, but like a plot question. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:24.440 Yeah, when did they sell this like inter dimensional portal 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.319 network that we just never heard about until this movie? 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.520 I feel like to learn more about that? 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:30.240 Yes, I want to. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.160 Anyway, that's fine. That's the only planet that mattens in 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.760 the MCU. No one cares about the fallout. That's never 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.200 gonna come back and bite us. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.840 I'm sure. I'm sure planets are going to be people. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:48.520 Of are are just fine with their newly dried out 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.560 shell of a planet. Anyway. In the six one six 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:57.680 h Kamala goes home to Earth and because the Marvels 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.240 never really again came together official, Kamala is like, I 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.040 need a team. I'm gonna start looking for other young 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.800 heroes on the come up to start a team. First up, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.080 our good friend Kate Bishop Yes on the Hawkeye series, wonderful, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.160 can't wait for this. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.880 Fantastic we're talking about young Avengers. Baby, we know that's 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.320 where it's going to get it going get it going. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.240 We've been waiting. Carol. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:25.600 Then, as recompense, partial recompense for her crimes against the Creed, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:30.960 she flies into the file, flies into the Krea sun 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.880 to fire it back up and it works Elsewhere in 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:40.240 another dimension, do do. Monica meets a variant of her mom, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:47.800 Maria in the guise of the superhero Binerya, and she's 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.480 hanging out with Hank McCoy of the X Men, who 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:56.920 deduces the problem of alternate dimensions. Don don, let's talk 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:57.680 about this film. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.600 Come on, isn't she great? I just love her so much. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.600 We're so blessed to have her in the MCU. She 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.680 is like a breath of fresh air that we need. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.600 She's that ultimate kind of in character for people like 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:11.800 us who love this. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.760 Stuff, meta character. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.800 She's a meta in character who's not an avatar in 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.040 any way, Like she gets to be her own person. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.760 But we can all kind of laugh and be like, well, 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.600 that would be us, Like we would be the ones 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.960 with the bootleg the boot like Kamala Carroll ties. Actually, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.920 let's talk about that, because you raised the good question 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.360 when we were doing pre question. 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:36.480 Do heroes like Carol who have merch profit off their name, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.600 image and likeness. Who owns that ip? In the Marvel verse. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:41.880 It's important, I. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:47.480 Think because also we know that there's like, uh, you know, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:53.800 Avengers musicals. We know that there's bootleg Marvels merch thanks 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.000 to the Avanngers incredible marvels. 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.840 Much so that means there must be legit merch. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.080 There is a there is a trademark, right because you 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.960 would not be what you would You would just be 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:06.800 able to do boom. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.200 Yeah, it would be a problem. So like, okay, so 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.600 is this like a Marvel comics esque. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.440 Situation where when you join the Avengers, they own, like 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.520 Stark Industry owns your likeness? 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.440 Right? Sadly I believe that's the case. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.520 I think Stocking really really sadly believe that that is 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:23.880 I do. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.800 And I think Stark Industries has like a merchandising department 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.040 and that's why you're getting like Hawkeye dolls and Carol 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.240 Danvers T shirts. And it would be very interesting to 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.800 see that explored in a future episode of something or other, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.480 because I doubt it will be in a movie, but. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.160 The people want to know who's making the millions. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.000 I think what happened is when the Avengers started up 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.600 and when all the versions of the teams were put 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.080 together under the under the banner of the Avengers, Tony 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.960 Stark handed people like a five hundred page contract and 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.760 in the contry tract is ownership of the IP and 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:08.200 the IP derived from the Avengers activities is the sole 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:13.680 property of Stark Industry. Now here's the question. Does Carol 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.600 and the other heroes act? Do they get a royalty 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:22.600 off of merch sold containing their name image like this 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:23.160 that's all? 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.040 Is it like a work for hire gig? 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.480 Where like Tony is just getting all this money and 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:31.080 it's going into the Avengers Initiative bank accounts. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.160 Yeah, we need to know more. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.040 Maybe that's how he's funding. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.160 You know, he's a billionaire, but maybe that's how he's 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.680 like he's like, you want to get a new suit upgrade, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.920 Well you need a T shirt, Give me that T 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:42.720 shot money. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.680 That's how the Avengers is kind of like self. It's 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.440 sustaining in that way. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.119 Don't ask pepper pots get pepper pots on the podcast. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.680 Yeah, it's like Quinja, you know, gas for the Quinn Jet. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:01.360 All the arrows quo ar, Yeah, I mean Clinton has 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:02.440 too many arrows. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.040 We all know that, Like those. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.920 That's like millions of dollars a year. Like, I, yeah, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.639 this is an important question. This is exactly the kind 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.679 of question that nobody at Marvel wants answer because it's 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.240 completely ridiculous, but it's very important to us. 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.720 I think it's actually important world world building question. I 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.440 need to know more. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:22.520 I need to know more. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:39.240 Yeah, Oh, let's talk about the action sequences are so good, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.560 Like I think the stunt coordinators Joe McClaren, who did 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:43.880 Doctor Strange to an. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.200 Overlord, which I love that movie. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:50.840 And it is like so there's so much fun and 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.160 personality in these fight sequences. They tell us so much 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.120 about the characters. We get to see this yeh, quantum 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:02.159 entanglement mega fight between Saber Kamala Khan's house and wherever 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.760 Carol is maybe her own ship, and we yet to 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.680 see that Kamala has like really no idea how to 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.960 use her powers compared to Monica, who's just learning to 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.840 use them, compared to Carol, who's an old hand at 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.560 this point, and there's just so much fun to be had. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.800 I think that's one of the big reasons why. You know, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.560 another thing we kind of talked about in the pre 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.959 production stage of this episode is the movie didn't make 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.400 a lot of money, right, It came in that phase 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.400 of oh superha fatigue blah blah. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.359 Blah, but now it's some dizzy, dominating narrative. That was 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:31.600 the dominating narrative of it. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.520 But as we kind of said, it's a it's a 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.720 flawed narrative. It's not a holistic narrative in any way. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.119 And once this hit Disney Plus, the conversation about this 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.840 movie changed, and suddenly every single person who watched this 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.080 movie on Disney Plus went, wait, why didn't I go 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:47.080 and see this at the cinema? 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:47.879 It was so good? 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.199 Like why did I miss out seeing this on the 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.240 big screen? And I think a big part of that 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.760 is those incredible fight sequences and the balance between comedy 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.200 and action, which feels a lot more akin to that 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:00.760 first phase of the MCU. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.200 And to your point, what also felt a kin to 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:11.120 that first phase was were you watching Monica and Kamala 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.280 take their first steps in learning how to use their powers. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.240 There's a there's a wonderful like level up feel where 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:26.000 throughout these set piece action sequences, you see Monica and 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.880 Kamala get a little better, a little better, a little 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:33.760 better each time at using their power, figuring out the synergy, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.920 like how to use their power together, all three of them, Yeah, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.639 and to enhance each other. That's really cool. And that 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.840 made the you know, the entanglement thing could have been 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.479 really annoying really fast. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:46.000 Yeah. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.920 I just felt like I'm not getting to feel my heroes. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:55.560 Like we're putting this artificial uh ceiling on how powerful 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.560 our heroes could be in order to drive the plot, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.399 but feel like that it's not like, yes, there was 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:06.119 this thing that was making it difficult for them, but 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.520 also they were very creative in figuring out how to 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.919 use it and how to how to work around it 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.600 and when to when to actually use their powers in 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.240 a way that would trigger the entanglement, that wouldn't become 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.800 important to do that, And I thought that was really cool. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:23.520 It really worked, It really worked. 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.800 And also I think that Nia da Costa, who's the 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.040 director of this, director of Candy Man, just a great, 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.280 great director. I think she did a really fantastic job. 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:35.320 You know, post ant Man three, Quantumnia, everyone kind of 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.480 had that fear of it looking like that murky purple 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:42.840 overcged kind of space, and actually what we ended up 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.040 getting had so much fun practical setwork, whether it was 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.480 on Saber, whether it was on these different planets. 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.640 The use of the different planets. 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.680 And getting to visit different places gave it so many 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.640 different flavors. And I understand that making one of these 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.520 movies is never easy, and there was a lot of 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.359 conversation about reshoots and all that kind of stuff that 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:01.840 always happens with these big movies. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.680 But I felt like the movie that we got Nia just. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.919 Did such a good job bringing it all together and 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.280 making it feel like a really fun, quick, great adventure. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.040 Like I can imagine for a lot of people this 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.320 could be their first MCU movie and they would just 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.480 get really really into it, and then they can go 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.119 back and discover everything else. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.000 Part of what was so joyful was the extended musical 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.440 numbers like Alattna. Of course, the song and Dance and 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.560 Alatna that first of all brings out an entirely different 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:38.800 dimension to Carol's character and Breeze performance like a wonderful 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.640 Like you know, Carol is a hard ass character, both 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.320 in the comics and these movies. Yeah, she's very all 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:50.720 business and still tell me to smile, don't tell me, Yeah, 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.040 and I will do it myself. Yeah, you know, and 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.400 you could kind of extrapolate that all the way out 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:03.040 to again her her unwise to kill the Supreme Intelligence. 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.639 But this brought another aspect to her. While indeed it 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.920 was a political marriage important for the kind of stability 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:14.520 of internal Ladna politics, the way she carries out her 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.840 role is so delightful and it's also worthy. 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.960 Sands with Prince Ye. Yeah, like there's no way, it's 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.200 like beautiful, there's a love. 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.880 I was a big fan. But let's talk about Aladdina 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.960 because you look, so what's up with the Latin? Is 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.160 it just dry? Now? It was one hundred percent? 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:30.440 More? 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:31.320 Where's that gone? 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:31.439 Like? 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.000 Is it now twenty percent? Is it completely dried out? 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:34.159 Like? 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:35.560 What's going on? What's occurring? 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.240 I am I am very I'll just say that I'm 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:45.639 hopeful that in the way that Carol flew into the 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.800 Krea Sun in order to restart it, that she will 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.159 also say, well, also, okay, a Lotna, we've got to 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.200 do something for a Lotna. We got to figure out 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.000 the water situation. I'm hopeful that we will see the 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:02.640 heroes double back and do something for because what I 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.520 don't want to see happen is we just forget about them, 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.320 and that will one hundred come back on them. Like 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:15.080