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Speaker 1: a spatis bade like going into the matchup, obviously you

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Speaker 1: guys were underdogs, right, Like, had you lost to Boston,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the majority of the fan base would

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Speaker 1: have been like super surprised because you know, they beat

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Speaker 1: you guys four four times during the regular season. But

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Speaker 1: you get past Boston and it's such like a such

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Speaker 1: an amazing feeling for Eastern Comments Final in twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: and then and then you lose to a team that

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Speaker 1: that is super beatable, right, I think that's in a

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Speaker 1: and sort of and the tone is set from game one, right,

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Speaker 1: which which is obviously you know we could talk about.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's what's you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you guys feel, but I feel like that's that's

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Speaker 1: what's tough, right. It's like they're they're a very very

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Speaker 1: beatable team in my.

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Speaker 2: Opinion, I mean I feel like everybody was beatable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, everybody's clearly beatable. I just feel like

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Speaker 3: when everyone that's why when when people always ask about,

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Speaker 4: Deal with like the highs and lows of like the season.

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Speaker 3: In certain situations, expectations, Like I always said, you got

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Speaker 3: to keep a level ahead because like you can't really

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Speaker 3: read the press when things are saying things are negative

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 3: When everyone obviously people were like we weren't picking us

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Speaker 4: Was like, oh, well, like you guys are all haters,

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Speaker 3: And then when we're the favorite to beat Indiana and

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Speaker 4: We're the favorite with the favorite, and.

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Speaker 3: Then we don't beat them, it was like, well, like

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Speaker 3: you can't, like you can't listen to that stuff because

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Speaker 3: it's gonna set like your expectations.

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Speaker 4: Set your mind at a different level.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, yeah, we wanted to beat them, and we

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Speaker 4: They had they had a number, and it really started.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I will say, like, obviously, you know us giving

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Speaker 5: Uh like uphill battle, but I'll say, like we beat

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Speaker 5: Detroit tough series, obviously we beat Boston great opponent, tough series,

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Speaker 5: and like everyone thought, like, oh, Indiana, like because there

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Speaker 5: it is like Indiana has been beating.

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Speaker 2: The hell out of They beat the hell out the Bucks,

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Speaker 2: they beat the hell out of Cleveland. Like they're playing

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Speaker 2: at such a high level, and it's like if you

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Speaker 2: look at their numbers, I think, JB. You know, we

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Speaker 2: looked at it, you know, before the season, I mean

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Speaker 2: before the series, all these dudes are shooting high forties

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Speaker 2: from three, fifties from three. It's like the end the

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Speaker 2: playoffs they played and like they found a rhythm. Give

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Speaker 2: them credit, they found a rhythm. They're hot right now.

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Speaker 2: So it's like we were playing an extremely hot team.

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Speaker 2: So obviously it's one of those things where it's like

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Speaker 2: we still think we can beat them, and we probably

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Speaker 2: we should have beat them, but it's like we could.

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Speaker 2: You can't. This is why you can't like underrate them,

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Speaker 2: because like they're they were playing extremely well in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: so like the stuff them being a four seed and

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Speaker 6: I think I saw dating back to January them in

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Speaker 2: Name yeah, it's all that you don't obviously, like the

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Speaker 2: hit that stride at the end of the season, and

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Speaker 2: like they hit that stride like they they would have

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Speaker 2: for seed because they were I think they started like

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Speaker 2: They've been playing really good basketball. So it's like, like

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Speaker 2: but you got to give them credit because they're playing

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Speaker 6: I don't know, it's hard to describe their fourth like

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Speaker 6: I think I saw that there was like a tweet

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Speaker 6: of its four separate games. Each game they were down,

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Speaker 6: So obviously it happened to you guys, but it happened

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Speaker 6: multiple times throughout the playoffs where in the last five

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I don't want to say yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say figure it out. I think

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Speaker 3: they just pick it up the intensity, like all right,

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Speaker 3: this is our last push, and like they already play

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Speaker 3: at such a pace that like they're playing fast, and

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Speaker 3: then once they start doing that in the last couple

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Speaker 3: then like they have obviously the shot making ability. Joshi

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Speaker 3: even said they were shooting like forties and fifties. They

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Speaker 3: just couldn't obviously just like think the game is over

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Speaker 2: Point, like because they play at such a high pace.

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Speaker 2: It's when you get those leads, you have to continue

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Speaker 2: to play it. It's the opposite of what you kind

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Speaker 2: of always are taught and like knowing to do, because

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Speaker 2: like at the end of the game, like you have

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Speaker 2: the lead, you slow down, you know and try to

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Speaker 2: get like the best shot in the sense of kind

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Speaker 2: But then it's like you doing that, it causes the

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Speaker 2: their intensity obviously to change because it's like now it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: we can press up on them. They're not they're trying

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Speaker 2: So it's like that sense of like you're kind of

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Speaker 2: got to just continue to play fast and continue to

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Speaker 2: build on the lead. How you got the lead, And

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Speaker 2: it's like we're totally reverse because it's normally not how

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Speaker 2: ten point lead, normally, like I said, you slow things down.

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Speaker 2: But with them, I think it's just you get that

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Speaker 2: continue to just pick the pace up and at that

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Speaker 2: point just kind of make it, you know, us as

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Speaker 2: bad as it sounds more like a possessing offensive game

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Speaker 2: just because you know you'll be able to score when

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Speaker 2: you you know, when you play with pace, you're always

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Speaker 2: able to score. But once you start slowing it down

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Speaker 2: and it makes it, it makes it tougher, the shot

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Speaker 2: quality becomes harder.

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Speaker 6: When you're a coach, you adjust your style based on

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Speaker 6: the roster that you have. But JB, I'm curious for

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Speaker 6: you having played for Rick in Dallas, like did it

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Speaker 6: feel like did they do things throughout the series that

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Speaker 6: you were like, oh, that's that's Rick style, or that's

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Speaker 6: like this feels like Rick Carlier or does it feel

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Speaker 6: like a totally different experience because the roster is constructed

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Speaker 6: so differently.

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Speaker 4: No, it feels like it's very similar.

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Speaker 3: Obviously coaches, like they changed to to the personnel, but

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Speaker 3: it still feel like a Rick Carlile coach team.

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Speaker 4: It's just the things that he did, the things that

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Speaker 3: Some things I remember when I played with played with

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Speaker 4: But he's always.

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Speaker 3: Been a great offensive x's and o's type of coach,

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Speaker 3: and he's always preached pace about like run the floor, sprinting.

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Speaker 3: He's always he's always had that. And so nothing nothing

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Speaker 3: was like insanely different. Really like they ran a lot

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Speaker 3: of similar plays even like last year, Right, they have

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Speaker 3: wasn't like things were insanely different. There was a lot

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Speaker 4: And so he's always been that way, and that's what

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